tfw nobody to hold tight edition
• Makeup tutorials : http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
• Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
• Correct hormone levels:http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
• Checking your levels:http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
• Reducing Muscle http://www.trans-health.com/2001/lose-muscle-gain-fat-dieting-for-mtfs/
• Size charts:http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
• Transition time lines:http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training:https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
• Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
• IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
Previous thread - >>8271279
>>8272458
Soon.
>anon, you look so different!
h-haha, yeah. I wonder why
Also I don't feel all sad like I did earlier today so all is well
>>8272458
korra thread no one else can post here
>>8272468
Thats fucking adorable
But you aren't pure.
tfw no boys to kiss
>>8272474
Pure life's best life
>>8272482
>yeah ive heard that but that would be a big no no
nim, you can trust me, i will not share them with any disgusting subhuman chasers
it'll just be between you, me, the devil and the deep blue sea (and anybody who happens to see this thread too)
i wanna b lil
>>8272490
u r
>>8272490
dont let them corrupt you nim. if they get naughty vocaroos of you they can use it to blackmail you and get you to do really naughty things! Stay pure <3
Nim, have you stopped suppressing your lust for cock?
Nim irl
>>8272496
no shes still in denial
>>8272505
confirmed
>>8272499
Nothing concrete planned aside from spending time together after my orchi.
nim is mentally preparing to be an agp bica girl
>>8272520
you lost to cock
nim will too
>>8272487
hmmm
but what about my purity anon?
>>8272528
>you lost to cock
i'm still bisexual senpai
>>8272517
i was just joking anyway. the comic i was reading this week has like a platonic lesbian relationship its pretty cute
>>8272520
if im agp now will bica make it worse? will i just lust for cock all day?
>>8272537
>platonic
>lesbian
wat
>when you realise you've been awake for 28 hours
Ooops.
Im on cypro and still agp so I think Nim is just cray
>>8272538
yeah probably
my libido didn't go down at ALL when i switched to bica
so you'll probably get a lot back
>tfw almost 2 weeks on cypro and still agp
i was never agp wtf
okay goodnight!
>>8272551
nimgp
Does anyone but Bart have results like these?
>>8272551
are we still friends? ;-;
>>8272544
basically its girl loving girl but they don't do sex
w2b a dicking
>>8272549
Are you French?
>>8272530
It's just practising, so it doesn't count towards your growing total of impurity points.
I think what Zheanna said that was you have to try making gentle moaning noises, that helps quite a lot apparently. Also explaining your deepest, lewdest fantasies too in a sultry purr too, that was what she said (she's an expert at this).
>>8272555
holyshit i know her lol. wonder how she is doing haven't talked for a while
>>8272557
no we're not friends anymore
we're buddis okay?
>>8272468
>Soon.
I wish ;_;
>>8272472
Try and stop me!
>>8272555
how muuch is he i need this
>>8272562
do you think i could pull off sultry anon
>>8272558
Doesn't make any sense to call it lesbian relationship if they're just two individuals that love each other with no sex involved.
>>8272561
Omlette du fromage
>tfw you may never be able to afford surgery for your jaw
>>8272572
I share this feel ;-;
stay strong
>>8272545
let's cuddle and sleep cutie
>>8272569
I think you owe it to yourself to try
We will support you and give you positive feedback
>tfw shes talking about our platonic lesbian relationship
>>8272575
CRAWLING IN MY SKIN
>>8272553
Nitenight nim!
>>8272570
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbian
>A lesbian is a female homosexual: a female who experiences romantic love or sexual attraction to other females.
>>8272576
I hope I can get it by my 40th
>>8272579
cute
>>8272571
Is that a yes?
>>8272592
Reveal yourself anun!
>>8272571
Cheez omelette!
>>8272534
I can no longer sit back and allow AGP infiltration, AGP indoctrination, AGP subversion and the international AGP conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.
>>8272587
Save up money! Work two jobs! Be an overtime slut! Live like a monk!
That's what I do anyway
>>8272598
Too late.
>>8272596
im just anon. i don't talk with anyone outside the threads
>>8272605
Oh alright.
>>8272604
please don't post images of me here
>>8272599
Two jobs? I'd kill someone to land ONE job. I'm very undesirable as far as workforce goes. I've applied to sooo many jobs and haven't heard back from any yet, let alone passed an interview.
>>8272598
just transition into my gf
>>8272584
idk what to call it lol
>>8272612
>I'm very undesirable as far as workforce goes.
very desirable in other ways though
ehehehe
>>8272612
Move to Pennsylvania and get to a factory job. Waltz into a 13/HR job with no education experience or interview. I recommend.
Can someone please post proof that trannies aren't all doomed to cone tits? I'm not just a chaser digging for tit pics. I legit am worried about my tits.
i like yaoi where they really love each other and then i cry
>>8272622
That's really fucking gay.
>>8272622
I like big bags of marshmallows and tubs of ice cream.
>>8272621
I cannot post prooph but I can assure you that being conal is not everyone's fate
>>8272613
n-no
>>8272625
little bit
>>8272617
You know.
>>8272625
gay is okay
>>8272631
>she's stuttering already
your repression game is weak
>>8272626
Oh shit are you a yuropoor
Got nothin for you then
>>8272638
im strayaa
>>8272626
>wow, i wish i was okay enough with my body to profit off of that
there's no future in sex work anyway - and all the money you make just goes on drugs to help you cope with being a sex worker
>>8272633
No I am so confused what is going on
I fucking hate spiro
>makes my piss smell awful
>makes me slowly leak urine all day without notcing
>panties smell fucking awful by the end of the day
Im going to demand my endo see my next week, i cant stand this drug anymore
>>8272639
Even worse I'm sorry
>>8272637
n-n-no it isnt
p-pls call me ur girlfriend more
>>8272643
>>makes me slowly leak urine all day without notcing
jesus fuck i dodged a bullet
>>8272646
>sell dirty undies to sex-deprived japanese salarymen
do you really think that would work?
>>8272642
Shhh just go with it.
>>8272643
Ummm yeah that's not normal I'm on the same stupid high dose of Spiro you are and I have the bladder control of a porn star
Cut your balls off
>>8272651
maybe, i've heard of it being a thing, though they prefer it if there's some special selling point probably
>>8272653
>I've had none of that experience
it seems to happen to some
http://patientsville.com/spironolactone/urinary-incontinence.htm
>>8272642
shes trying to turn you gay
>>8272643
>makes me slowly leak urine
W-what
What's your dose? I'm on 100mg and don't get that
>>8272656
if i live in canada can i get them to pay for it? what if i cant get hard afterwards? id rather give bica or cypro a try first
>>8272643
>>makes me slowly leak urine all day without notcing
Weak bladder?
>>8272660
200mg
>>8272654
Mkay. :3
>>8272659
Her and everyone else in mtfg.
>>8272664
>can I get them to pay for it
Possibly, I don't know.
>what if I can't get hard
You can.
>>8272647
anonette when are you coming over
i want to give you headpats while you try on skirts
>>8272664
yeah it is covered afaik but there is a bit of a wait for surgeons. ive heard its sometimes actually easier to get hard after orchi since you're not taking aa anymore
>>8272643
I never peed myself until I started transition, I am on spiro
I do not know how many times I have peed myself in the past few years
>>8272621
Here. You get one tit, desu. You're welcome.
https://unsee
.cc/siparezu/
trans feels go away
there has to be a way to get over it
people just don't have a reason to speak up about successfully getting over it because they've moved on
>yfw spiro slowly destroys your bladder until you have to wear diapers and fulfill your abdl fetish
>>8272675
Your adrenal glands will still produce testosterone. You may possibly have even more testosterone than on 200mg Spiro. If you get erections now fine, you will continue to get them fine later.
>>8272686
Gross
>>8272685
u get over it as best you can by transitioning
>>8272690
>you get erections now fine, you will continue to get them fine later.
its weird. i dont get them as easy as i used to but when im in the mood they get so hard that it starts to hurt. but they die super fast, like 4 seconds of no stimulation and i start going soft
c-c-c-an i still be trutrans if i get my balls cut off?
>tfw have to go to mandatory after work drinks
i don't wanna be a normie i just wanna go home
>>8272696
I don't want to be trans
has anyone tried hypnotherapy? I'm willing to try it
>>8272699
Shouldnt have been a girl then!
>>8272708
but they all think im a boy....
>>8272711
Why's it mandatory?
>>8272705
You wont win. Repressing will always be a losing battle.
>>8272705
none of that shit works
>>8272699
Tfw haven't had alcohol in months
Fucking roommate won't buy it for me
Ree
Also post your favorite drinks
All Americans have to provide three normal reasons or one lewd reason for why they're still awake at this hour.
If they cannot do this, they have to turn off their computers and go to sleep.
>>8272716
>insomnia
>worrying about spiro making my piss smell so bad
>talking to spicy
Good enough?
>>8272716
i'm in hawaii
it's 9 pm
>>8272712
cuz my manager is leaving today
>>8272715
my favourite drink is water
>>8272716
It's 2 AM it's not that late lol
>>8272716
I'm talking to my girlfriend over discord voice chat.
>>8272716
Night shift
>>8272579
hanging out on /r9k/.
pretending to be cis-male on /soc/
insomnia
>>8272731
>insomnia
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0el2dU7P046
>>8272716
i need to shower but im procrastinating it
>>8272716
>Talking to cis
>Watching a stream
>Took a nap earlier
:D
>>8272716
- Only midnight on the west coast
- Phoneposting
- Got back from working an event about hour ago and have nothing to do tomorrow
>>8272721
>>8272723
>>8272727
>>8272730
>>8272731
Acceptable
>>8272725
UNACCEPTABLE, GO TO BED NOW, NATALIE
>>8272735
https://clyp.it/01bhghzx?token=d7b8ead8c8881725f5bc58df01237821
>>8272742
What are you going to do about it if I don't?
>>8272744
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0QXehuToa9n
>>8272755
i need to shower though i have work tomorrow. actually i guess its today
>>8272761
Take a 10 minute shower, then go to bed.
>>8272724
>my favourite drink is water
Said no Australian ever.
>>8272766
okay
>>8272767
fosters is australian for beer
So apparently when flirting with trans girls online, the most effective way to gain a positive response is with headpats. Who'da thunk you girls would love heatpats so much?
>>8272778
you're an idiot. stop being stupid.
>>8272767
>>8272776
beer is disgusting
>>8272784
>tfw i told my dad beer was disgusting and he told me i wasnt a real man
turns out he was right
>tfw my dad has no son
>>8272784
>tfw like beer and bourbon
Am I agp
>>8272790
taste is subjective
but beer is disgusting
Might as well drink gutter water instead of beer
>>8272716
yaoi
in 20 minutes i'll snort my estrogen and then go to sleep ok
>>8272776
L I T E R A L L Y nobody here drinks fosters. tooheys or vb are the normie beers
>>8272798
It's a school night, Maeve. This is not responsible behaviour for a young lady.
Also, you should be reading yuri instead.
>>8272809
>you should be reading yuri instead.
this. Yaoi is literally agp
>>8272809
im too kool for skool
yuri is gaaay
>>8272815
hell yeah haha you tell em maeve
>>8272815
>>8272754
https://clyp.it/cn4zf44o?token=fedfc43ac5d89434f9ee0caef7961485
>>8272811
the blanchard memes needs to die already...
psychology-posting should be a bannable offense
>>8272815
It can't be gay if it's cute.
Also, I hope you're doing okay.
>>8272811
Finally, someone with a little common sense around here.
>>8272802
>girls dont drink beer
>>8272825
Never.
>>8272782
no I'm being a coward there is a difference
>>8272794
For me beer is still hit or miss
IPAs are garbage (which sucks butt because every brewery around me specializes in them), and a lot of the name brand stuff is only good for getting you drunk
Local breweries are awesome desu
I'm on 25mg cypro and want to keep my penis working and useable, will it be fine if I just keep using it? Or should I consider switching to another AA
Can't do bica because I hate having a high libido
>>8272822
>https://clyp.it/cn4zf44o?token=fedfc43ac5d89434f9ee0caef7961485
cure my insomnia and i will tell you my secrets. But for real, most of it came from back when i was just way too over confident and would shamelessly flirt with any cute girl i met. You strike out a lot sure but sometimes the girl likes you back. Im way too anxious these days to do that kind of thing but a few years ago i could somehow manage it.
Thats for girls anyways, guys are different. They mainly respond to sex appeal and attractiveness.
>>8272842
There's not much of a point in going as long as u get valuable experience elsewhere
>>8272842
You should try not to skip school so much, even if you hate going there. It'll be quite difficult when you're older if you have no qualifications.
Pretend I'm you from the future, who's come back to warn you about the dire consequences of the decisions you made when you were 16.
>>8272843
I'm on 25mg cypro and it is still alive despite not using it.
>>8272853
>and it is still alive despite not using it.
franzi, can you please explain how you know this
>>8272852
Dire how
>>8272845
chamomile works nicely.
i wish i had some chamomile.
yea, i do gave some sex appeal to some men.
just wish i weren't getting my attention exclusively from men
>>8272856
Because it still has its own will sometimes
>>8272858
A cute boy wouldn't kiss me because he found out I got a D in my History finals.
I came back to change this.
>>8272867
Sounds like a dumb cute boi
>>8272862
>just wish i weren't getting my attention exclusively from men
how long have you been on hrt?
>chamomile works nicely.
il look into it ty
>>8272864
don't worry franzi, it'll be okay
i'm like 80% sure of it
>>8272867
but I tried my best
>>8272874
It will be OK because srs in half a year.
Simply cut off the snakes head
>>8272871
That's not good - if you haven't already, you should try to make alternative arrangements in your calmer moments.
We'll fix you one day, Maeve.
>>8272871
I am busy lately but lazy too
Hbu
what do u do when yr depressed to get out of it
>>8272873
11 months
>>8272871
but now you are a cute girl and can marry a tall boy who will take care of you :D
>>8272883
grow your hair out as long as possible and you will start getting more looks from girls i think
>>8272877
that's a lot sooner than i expected - you'll be getting a vagina for christmas
does this mean you'll be approaching boys afterwards with renewed vigour and gusto
>>8272888
It will be early January but yeah, when it's healed I'll finally be able to approach guys.
>>8272826
++for this
>>8272886
really?
looking more like a girl will attract women to me?
what is this magic?
it defies logic
>>8272891
gotta wait like 6 months at least prob more
>>8272894
you arent going to attract straight girls when you are trans. so you're stuck with dykes/transbians.
>>8272828
guess im not a real girl
>>8272893
Yeah but yr the one driving it too
Gotta get some momentum going to pull you through it faster
>>8272893
>not really
yeah really
you are pretty
>that's a happy dream though
you can get there lil ham
>>8272891
that's good news, although you shouldn't be scared to approach guys pre-SRS either (if they didn't like you before, I don't think they should be allowed to have a shot afterwards)
but that's just my 2 reichsthaler
>>8272898
you're an anime girl
New phone works great :p
>>8272802
I pretty much only drink hard liquor and I'm pretty sure I drink more than anyone here.
Tfw work with 3 other trannies now
>look at /ftmg/ out of curiosity
>literally zero trips
really makes me think
>>8272893
Like learning from home or online school or something.
Don't get stuck in despair in your maevehole, Maeve
>>8272896
ok, i think i get it.
there will be more attention from men as well, so that's a plus
>>8272911
I know that life. There are 2 literallynotryingatall.jpg tier mtf hons and there is an FtM who dresses in pink all the time who I fully expect to detrans within 6 months.
>>8272915
I did that too last night. I went back to the previous thread and the only trip was a girl from here. Kinda funny.
>>8272911
Do you work for a chaser?
>>8272918
I just got my first mtf coworker
She's not passing but not honnish
Makes me glad I'm not out cuz there is a delicate balance
What do u do
>>8272897
i figured
i was already at a sort of alternative school for at-risk students
my mom is a teacher at an alternative school and she says there are a lot of people like me but the city won't pay for me to go
online school is like normal school so i run into the same feelings of purposelessness
>>8272899
true i guess
im no good at getting momentum
>>8272900
i do wish to get there
>>8272916
the maevehole is my home forever now
>>8272911
IT or prostitution
I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO SHILL
Mazzoni Center in Philidelphia is the best place ever. They're super convenient and professional and they literally just gave me several extra months of meds without me even going in (I'm still doing so in like a month but it was really nice of them)
>>8272915
Hey.
>>8272921
No it's just seattle shenanigans
>>8272924
Just ride harder c^:
>>8272893
>>8272897
>alternative school or online school
Do your homework and see if the online programs are accepted by your state for graduation or GED equivalency.
Brings back memories of showing a cop my community college ID to stop him for arresting me for being truant. I also often used my NY learner's permit to keep the WDC police from arresting me. I'd skip school to go to gallery openings.
>>8272908
I had two bottles of 19% alcohol mead last weekend. One Friday, and the other Saturday. I barely got a buzz. First time I'd drank anything in ages.
>>8272932
hello
>40 games on my platinum backlog
how do i start enjoying video games again, male to family general?
>>8272924
>i do wish to get there
you can do it!
keep riding your tricycle and you will get there!
>>8272939
get prettied up and stream on twitch
the boys donating and flirting with you will help you move forward
>>8272939
U just grow out of em
>>8272940
cute
>>8272927
My doc will auto extend prescriptions without an appointment.
>>8272943
>get prettied up
but anon... the jaw......
also i'd have to practice my voice a lot!
>>8272950
>but anon... the jaw......
Good night champions
>>8272962
good night
im sleeping now too
I wish I was a girl.
>>8272983
Iktf
>>8272983
you are a girl
>>8272983
i wish i was human
>>8272989
Teach me how to
>>8272983
Same. I wanna stop being a trap
>>8272991
I'm not sure how. It's mostly attitude at this time. I just be me, and me is a woman.
why does chara have a personality cult in /r9k/
just how fucking dumb are the people in this website
>>8272997
Very dumb. Shu used to have e a cult here too for a while
>>8272778
update: boyfriend is usually into anything hypno but seems pretty uncomfortable with it and compared it to "curing" gayness and stuff like that
I guess he's not wrong but he doesn't want me to be with him if I'm on HRT either and grow boobers and stuff
guess I should just fucking off myself
>>8272782
you're right
I'm an idiot
>>8272983
>tfw since I filtered her I just skip every thread, because there is nothing worth reading
>tfw i still didn't ask her so many things that torture me now
>tfw I'm still not sure what to do, even though it should be clear now
>tfw I barely sleep and when I do I dreamed of marrying her and wake up in tears, realizing it will never happen
>tfw no picture of us kissing
>tfw I thought we could do all the things we didn't do last time, when I'd visit her
>tfw she doesn't love me anymore
>tfw I know I'll never get over her
>>8272996
white americans are soon to be a minority
>>8273012
and this is the reaction
>>8273009
That sounds painful
>>8273012
Immigration quotas being relaxed.
>>8273009
who is this 'her'
Didn't notice that wasn't the right thread.
I'm not MTF, I came here from another board to explore.
I am almost 100% sure I work with Elanna, not memeing or rusing
>>8273020
give her the dick
she's begging for it constantly
>>8272997
Because robots are incredibly naive. Chara's antics amuse me a lot, to be honest.
>>8273020
where do you work?
>>8273024
Unironically would
>>8273024
hmmm are you projecting?
>>8273026
Who is this chara and why is it famous?
>>8273027
I don't want to Dox them or anything like that.
Have they ever said what country they're from? That would be the make-or-break to this
>>8273034
if you've seen a picture of her and don't recognize her it's not her lmfao
>>8273034
Canada
Alberta
>>8273033
A catfisher who's quite gifted at teasing beta males.
>>8273018
The sweetest and most beautiful girl in the world
>>8273039
>Berta
Well it was close.
Case closed, everyone go home
>>8273040
Poor r9k, they deserve help, not this.
>>8273012
meh...
>>8273016
It is. I never felt this worse in my life before...
still masquerading as a cis guy on /soc/.
my thread got a few responses.
i'm sure you'll be able to find it very quickly.
please don't blow my cover though.
i'm just venting the immature frustrations i had in had in high school there
>>8273043
Well she *lives* in British Columbia now.
I always knew she was too good for me, but she still loved me...
>tfw sexuality nearly dead for like 7 months
>tfw she comes to visit me and reactivates it and turns me into a mess
i dont even know if i actually want off this wild ride
>>8273044
it's full of misogynistic /pol/tards
might as well be /r/incel
>>8273043
Wait nevermind it is lmao
>tfw the filter on clover sucks and you can still see the beginning of the filtered texts and want to kill yourself
>>8273058
Tfw gaining sexuality back after throwing away hrt
>>8273055
Oh then it is them.
Small world
>>8273071
>throwing away hrt
dumbass
tfw srs in 2 months but cant stop buying skin tight pants and leggings and stuff in anticipation
>>8273073
I don't pass and never will
Pointless taking something that won't help me
>>8273077
>giving yourself no chance rather than some chance
why not just go for it, you wont pass if you dont take it either
>>8273077
>she thinks repression ever works
lol
Why can't she love us both? What happened that made her stop loving me?
>>8273077
idk about you but I like how I feel on HRT. Maybe its placebo but I always feel more relaxed and in touch with my emotions on HRT, even if I never pass I want to keep taking it forever.
>>8273088
then leave
>>8273085
Hrt makes me more emotional so it only hurts more. Before hrt I wasn't able to fall in love or cry
>>8273088
like where am i going for the surgery? Having it with chett, if you meant clothes i just buy off amazon :p
>>8273088
Tfw dropped trip
do i really look young?
>>8273097
Both of those are terrible things..
>>8273074
You won't be able to wear the tight stuff immediately after SRS. No point in bringing any to Thailand. Get yourself light, loose skirts and blouses to wear there.
>>8273099
I've had my heart broken and it hurt but I'm better for the experience, having felt the depths of emotion I wouldn't be able to without HRT.
>>8273096
hope youre not self harming anymore
>>8273097
alright.
peeps on /soc/ are saying i look young & cute
>>8273104
you now what they say
out with the old, in with the new
>>8273083
It's not repression idiot.
I don't have the body or face to pass
>>8273105
You had your heart tickled, not broken.
>>8273097
Not if nobody loves you back and you just feel horrible all the time. And I hate crying it makes me look even uglier, my big fat nose is constantly running and I'm sobbing in my guyvoice
>>8273106
i'm not.
that stopped 3 years ago
>>8273100
Oh no i know, im just really excited so im buying them for when i get back, i dont plan on wearing many pants in thailand
>>8273114
Good. Props on sticking to not doing it :)
>>8273110
>It's not repression
it literally is and it doesn't matter you deluded yourself into thinking its not
>tfw too scared to apply make-up, because in crying all the time and it will ruin it
>tfw don't want to leave the house without make-up
>tfw don't want to go at all, because it's useless anyways and I've given up
>>8273120
So I should continue to take hrt despite knowing I'll never pass?
Are all trans people this dumb?
>>8273116
////
do you really think they wanna fug me? some of the people saying this also seem confident that i'll find a gf, so i'm not sure what the whole situation is.
thanks btw
>>8273118
thanks
>>8273109
I never heard that before.
But you know what they say
Altbewährtes neu entdeckt
>>8273124
yes, but not all of us are that unfortunate.
i think isla has the best luck
>>8273124
doesnt do much harm if you can afford it
ded
>>8273139
this thread is too young to die though.
it has a whole array of sadposts ahead of it ( TДT)
>>8273138
But there's no point
I don't have the frame for it
I have 43" shoulders and 36" hips
I really really really want to die. I don't know If I survive this day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_fJYBCcjFo
>tfw no Ash boyfriend
>>8273137
Some are very lucky but I wasn't.
My underbust is 33" which is what athletic men have
>>8273141
i got or at least used to have the same measurements :/
>>8273145
he is pretty manly X3
>catching bus
>forgot to top up my bus card
>only got 20c and 10c coins
>tfw trying to pay with literally handfulls of change
>>8273153
dont be nervous
>>8273153
you don't have a credit card?
>>8273158
at least i didn't get drunk, catching a bus home drunk and alone is not fun at all
>>8273168
you can't tap your credit card to get on the bus silly. you can top the bus card up online but sometimes it takes hours to go through. i've had it take a week once
>>8273153
>tfw get off 3 trainstops early rather than stop at a station with gates that prevent skipping the fare
This way I can always pay my fare if needed
>>8273178
b-but you might get in trouble D:
Fuck you "Nicole"
Stupid delusional tranny
>>8273185
That's not me btw. I don't hate her. I'm just really depressed
>>8273178
wish busses were that easy to not pay for ;~;
>>8273185
>>8273192
>>8273184
It's cheaper in the long run since the train costs 10 dollars a day. I'd need to get fined for avoiding fares twice every two weeks to lose money.
>>8273198
yeah I know, I used to dodge the fare completely to get to my endo before I figured out that driving there is literally just down the road from the place I get my electrolysis done
$10 each way isn't something I can afford
>tfw latched onto my bfs arm every time we go out
I wuv him <3
>tfw not enough Tavor in the house to kill myself with it
>>8273201
I can't wait to move into the city. Having to spend 5 hours total for 1 hour electro session downtown is a bit excessive. How is your electro going btw? I remember you starting out a while ago but I can't remember if it was laser or electro back then
>tfw a fictional character is supposed to represent a total lowest of the low loser but she's still way better off than you
http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
Looking at transition timelines is lowkey torture
like, there's no fucking way that happens, hormones aren't magical silver bullets, okay? wtf, I just want to asl;kfjopaije
god damn wizards and their fucking bullshit magical girl transformation sequences
>>8273231
Only the fast and lucky transitioners make timelines tho so your sample is fucked
>>8273141
>43" shoulders
People need to stop measuring circumference.
>>8273236
,__,
It's not fair
It's all cheating
end me now fampai
>>8273231
They aren't. There's more than hrt to such timelines. Improving makeup skills, finding the eyebrow line and hairstyle that fits you, learning how to take good pics...
>>8273231
I used to think it was all makeup and angles until I saw Sertii's so idk anymore maybe we're just estrogen insensitive?
>>8273241
basically more wizardry and unholy pacts with demons, evil back ally deals with shady CEOs of multinational corporations and satanic orgies in the whitehouse, got ya
>>8273243
I mean it'd help if I had hormones in the first place but I had to spend all my savings on antibiotics and wound dressings...
>>8273247
My timeline isn't very convincing.
>>8273247
>Paying for your own healthcare
Holy shit I didn't know ROI was freedomland-tier
>>8273250
to be fair, you went back and forth through transition if I remember correctly, but even then you pass well.
'cept for that last picture, I don't really like how it make your chin and jaw stand out.
>>8273247
Agony uncle :3
>>8273254
I stalked you in the archives and you pass so why are you killing yourself?
>>8273251
I even have a medical card
They don't cover very much, and neither does insurance.
I get my insulin free because it's life critical, but for some reason, antibiotics, sterile dressings, painkillers,anti-inflamatories, none of them are covered by either a medical card, or insurance...
>>8273254
Right now, pretty much, I feel manly, and I'm in agony from this god damn incision that the nurse has to stuff with fresh cotton wool every day...
>>8273252
I'm going to a plastic surgeon to get that lower face done as soon as I have my teeth fixed, which will take some time.
>>8273250
stop being old.
>>8273243
I mean Eirini started off basically looking like a MRA and she's grown out her hair a ton and gotten lots of laser.
It's a whooole bunch of factors.
>>8273265
Oh, yeah, also: lost over a third of her total weight.
>>8273260
I think most people wish they could do that but there's no way to reverse age yet. In any case, I don't look older than I really am. Pic related is an actress my age from my area who is generally considered still very pretty...
>>8273256
Bdd or something idk. She found out anyways because I can't stop venting and is coming with me to the shrink so I don't get benzos. I guess it's my voice that gets me clocked or the unfinished electro, either way it says at my self esteem
>>8273258
That sounds fucking horrifying
>>8273243
shakira if you were estrogen insensitive you'd fucking know for many other reasons other than not seeing as much progress in your timeline lol.
Estrogen didnt do much to me yet, literally everything else i did contributed way more
>>8273272
>Says at
Eats at I mean. This Google keyboard has been pulling off a lot of bullshit lately
>>8273272
I mean it's better that before because the same space now taken up by cotton wool was occupied by pus and infection before...
Why does everything has to remind me of her?
>>8273258
This will be Scotland's future when they become independent.
>>8273020
Whaaaaaaaaaaat
>>8273265
I started out looking like a roadman, I still look like a roadman.
>tfw dreams are almost always me in female form now
I wake up so happy from them ;-;
I want the future to come
>>8273237
Why?
That's how you measure your shoulders
>>8273270
>generally considered still very pretty...
no
>>8273298
I had the most wonderful dream this night, but waking up from it was horrible
>>8273309
>if they aren't 10/10, they aren't pretty
This meme gets my noggin, jogging
>>8273310
I dreamt I was killing zombies with a baseball bat. What does this mean???
>>8273318
Young lady you had better get yourself some cute clothes right the heck now!
>>8273309
She's one of the best paid French actresses and definitely the most popular. You're putting the bar unreasonably high if you think she's ugly...
>>8273311
they look like they wouldhave been 6 when they were young. features are way too angular. it's not even just that she's old.
>>8273327
A lot of women have angular features and are just fine.
You chasers really need stop wth your ridiculous standards.
>>8273329
25 isn't old, no.
>>8273331
>and are just fine.
no, angular features are never fine.
And you need to stop calling people that disagree with you chasers, you're basically misgendering by proxy and it's not nice.
>>8273329
i lost 30kg, got laser, grew my hair out, started moisturizing my skin, got laser eye surgery to get rid of my glasses that masculinized me (not why i did it but it helped). I shaved the beard that I used to hide my feminine features.
Like estrogen is basically only now starting to do shit to my face, fat redistribution takes a while. I guess it made my skin lighter tho.
>>8273281
Wait was it one of those cysts near the tailbone or what?
>>8273352
mhmm...
a pilonidal sinus
It's really nasty
>>8273348
Meh. You won't find many women without angular features where I'm from. Strong brow and hooded eyes, big broad cheekbones, jutting chin, that's pretty much the norm.
>>8273020
Seriouslyyy
Is noone going to explain this??
Fuck now I'm freaked out, time to look over the schedule to see who would reasonably be up at 2 in the morning
>>8273368
>>8273072
>>8273055
>>8273027
>>8273063
Be scared
>>8273366
Be sure to give them a hug tomorrow and bribe them with baked goods
-w-
>>8273374
oh rip i didn't see that
good luck ^^
There are so many trannies on pol or polacks confessing they are trans and want to take hormones.
I-I'm one of them. You convinced me a few weeks ago to try hrt.
Well, that's it I want to be on estrogen for life.
>>8273378
good now stop being a /pol/yp
>fourth day in a row that I went to be without eating dinner
:/
>>8273378
Congrats, anon. Being full of estrogen is a nice feeling.
>>8273385
Can we be qt commies who support feminism?
>>8273390
i'm two out of these already (i'm not qt but im trying my best)
>>8273386
what if the person is actually really nice and not a stalker
>>8273395
Ironically all my friends support me because I made friends with normal people and not /pol/acks
Such sweet caring people
>>8273318
make sure to buy them socks okay
>>8273398
I still don't exactly want my coworkers to know that I'm trans if they don't have to ya know? That shit's on a need to know basis.
>>8273411
It's clearly a psy op by anon.
if they were real they would have mentioned what kind of work it is or the name
>>8273411
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm not sure why I didn't even think about that, considering its kinda how I plan to handle it when I'm fulltime.
>>8273411
nuke your work from orbit
its the only way to be sure
>>8273423
If they were real and polite they wouldn't
They expressly said they didn't want to dox me
>>8273437
This is plan b
>>8273426
Yeah like
And depending who it is the whole store could know within a week
>tfw literal basmentdweller
>>8273446
And anons plan works like clockwork
Making you paranoid at work for no reason
What do I do about my brother/best friend not accepting my transition? He still calls me he and my male name. I tried convincing him with all the studies about trans people, I told him how depressed I was for the past 10 years, etc. I pass now but he'll straight up call me by my boy name in front of people. Idk what to do.
>>8273446
It's probably someone fucking around with you. What are the chances? Unless you work with weebs of course
>>8273453
I have met people irl who have recognized me from here before at my workplace, it was how I met haribu
It is very possible and I don't doubt that some of my coworkers could use 4chan
I think I might've seen Smiles today??
>>8273449
Nice big bed though, doesn't look like a bad room
>>8273463
was she riding a dick?
Hey Bart, sorry I haven't been in touch since we both left for college...a lot has changed
>>8273449
thats a fairly comfy basement
>>8273466
no she's 15
>>8273470
what is this
have I not seen this episode of the simpsons
did someone make this as some kind of sick joke
Hi /mtfg/
>>8273470
Who here /flirting_with_best_friend/ ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHW8qGbzOaw
Oh fugg
>>8273475
probably wasnt her
>>8273449
Comfy tho
>>8273453
I'd say disassociate with them but I don't know the exact nature of your relationship so it's hard to give advice
>>8273484
Did you draw that? Hi.
>>8273486
I flirt with a lot of friends
>>8273497
:o
Does Kate know?
please give me an official list of trips who are dating i need to update my /mtfg/ shipping chart
>>8273497
Yes i drew it
On a napkin
In school
Today
>>8273486
Does it count if my boyfriend is my only friend and thus my best friend too?
>>8273502
nim and eva
>>8273499
Yes ofc. It's only online friends anyhow
>>8273484
Hi Marina :)
>>8273502
Flannel and me
>>8273513
Hi amylein
>want to pass more than anything
>finally start passing nearly all the time
>now want to be pretty
i want off this ride being trans is a curse
>>8273528
Then no, because he's asleep :/
>>8273525
That's normal
>>8273525
Yeah, I never bought Edie's thing about being happy as even just an ugly girl.
That's not really how like, life works.
>>8273534
never once in my entire life have i felt attractive and even after transition i still don't feel that :(
>>8273528
I'm only looking for thirsty dicks desu. You're more like a smol big sis than a dick.
>>8273538
Considering who it's coming from I could never take it seriously
>>8273546
>:o
I-I-I'm not gonna bost benis!
And I guess I am a smol girl to you but also a big sis>
I found a picture of the size of my arms when I was working at the timberyard
>>8273544
Yeah iktf, I don't have a solution though. I'm still trying to just pass
:(
>>8273544
You'll get there. I used to think I never would. The way people look at me convinced me otherwise.
>>8273544
yep, it's strange
I'm told i'm attractive pretty often,but i don't feel it 2bh
Ok, sometimes i look in the mirror and think i'm looking good, then take a pic ... ok, i'm ugly
But it's a normal girl problem in a way
should i buy drugs or a cool band shirt
>>8273544
>tfw was a solid 8 pre-trans
>now i'm like a 3
feels excellent
>>8273552
kingpin!
>>8273557
Drugs
>>8273557
Both, then wear the band shirt while doing the drugs.
You can't do drugs without a shirt?
>>8273552
But you don't work there anymore and you're not muscular or manly anymore
Since coming out to a psychiatrist and my family doctor, I've felt really dazed. I've just sat in bed for the past two days, not eating, not crying, not doing anything.
It feels unreal.
>>8273577
It's a big step for you it seems? Take it in slow and start working on transition when you feel ready
>>8273552
please no bully
I was helping my brother with some garbage and I put his old washing machine on my shoulder at the collection center to throw into the compactor and all the people there looked at me
>>8273576
no but yes I am
my arms are still bigger than anyone in this thread, even people who bodybuilt and have just started hrt
It's so scary here without her...
>>8273584
I guess it just hasn't sunk in yet. Like, there are now people in real life who know I'm trans and I will have to see them again. I don't know how to handle that.
Bad part is I've been neglecting HRT for the past couple days too. Not intentionally, but still. :\
>>8273586
i'm very glad you went at least, it actually makes me really happy
>>8273596
I'm happy that you're happy, but now I'm crying again ;__;
>>8273585
Older people have thicker arms almost all the time, when they were overweight most of their life, it's not a male trait in itself
And seeing most people here are under ~23 and probably started bodybuilding over 17, the muscles never manifested themselves in that way
>>8273585
>my arms are still bigger than anyone in this thread, even people who bodybuilt and have just started hrt
lose weight!
>>8273595
Its probably a way bigger deal to you than to your doctors
>>8273613
Absolutely. But it's a really big deal for me.
>>8273623
Clearly, but try not to worry about seeing them about it :s
>>8273632
I'm more worried about talking about it again. I was shaking so hard and could barely speak. The psychiatrist wrote in his report to my doctor that I'm trans. The next time I talk to my doctor I'll have to bring up hormones.
Not sure I'll be composed enough to actually like, talk about them.
does mtfg have any recommendations for a cheap-ish corset or waist trainer? I've been on hormones for a while so I have a decent hourglass going on but I really think I could bring it together with a corset.
>>8273650
>I've been on hormones for a while so I have a decent hourglass going on
>>8273612
I am
but it wotn help
>>8273350
Well I havent lost any weight nor grown any hair so maybe that's why,
>>8273652
are you fucking new? Do you understand what an hourglass figure is? OP is saying they've been on hormones for so long that their fat redistribution has given them a more feminine figure, an hourglass.
Most of yall here are fucking rectangles, so I wouldn't expect you to know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9ME5qMlWkU
Dysphoria in a nutshell
>>8273664
>>8273650
If they're skilled at all they can pick up your anxiousness and try to have you relax
>>8273652
Baby transitioners
>>8273698
Your figure is mostly decided by your bones, if fat redistribution made you into hourglass then you already had good hips and stuff to begin with.
Like that timeline if the skinnyfat guy turning into a perfect petite hourglass. He already had feminine hips to begin with, HRT just dug them up.
I don't know how much corset training will help though.
>>8273752
>Like that timeline if the skinnyfat guy turning into a perfect petite hourglass.
link?
>>8273752
Corsets can help a bit. I'll probably resume wearing mine once I shed some excess weight.
>>8273761
I deleted it because I made me too sad about myself lol
Someone has it
>>8273752
no dude having even teeny tiny boobs will do a lot to change how your torso looks. most cis female don't have perfect hourglass either, that's why corsets and shapewear exist. I know that prob doesn't help with dysphoria but try not to worry too much about that one feature if you can
>>8273770
My boobs look like moobs because I don't have a female figure
>>8273781
yeah mine are conical too but when you look at your body straight on it looks more fem
Nice my therapist mentioned that my beard shadow is so visible even though I thought it was mostly gone now and I'm not wearing makeup, because I'm crying all day and I look horrible and I want to die. Now I'll walk to the trainstation and wait over an hour at the tracks and if the train is late another hour at another trainstation. That's a lot of opportunities to kill myself...
>>8273781
Few people will see you naked. A padded wonderbra seriously helps with that. A friend who knows me pretty well thought I was a 36D when I'm really a 38B.
>>8273770
>tfw trannies get memed by cis girls into thinking a perfect hourglass is the only way to look like a girl
woooo~~~
>>8273796
she's scrutinising you extra close since already she knows ur trans desu
>>8273806
She's an old guy.
And first he said I'll be official in June, then July and now August.
>>8273348
Then you're just a bitter hon
Plenty of cis women have angular faces and are attractive
Olivia Wilde and Angelina Jolie far just two of those women
>>8273770
>even teeny tiny boobs will do a lot to change how your torso looks
I pass where I show of the fact that I have a chest, and don't pass when I don't. That's how big a difference it makes.
>>8273818
>Olivia Wilde and Angelina Jolie
immensely ugly people.
>>8273826
you're very opinionated, and a great deal of normies would say that your opinions are objectively wrong.
>>8273826
>ugly people
Get a load of this hon
Then who do you think is attractive?
>>8273781
Sometimes mine catch the light in the right way and make little shadows and it's like, "Hey that looks kinda okay."
Usually they are just moobs though.
I'm hoping losing weight will help.
>>8273770
I never said only girls have hourglasses, I only wanted to correct anon about HRT giving her an hourglass so nobody reads it and gets hopeful.
She's already got the hourglass, HRT just got her in shape so it's visible. Plus that anon freaked on me saying hourglasses are all fat distribution.
I'm living that inverted triangle stink life, trying to make the best of it.
Just don't want any girls here thinking a few years on HRT means a guaranteed hourglass.
>>8273761
Actually, let me finish this coffee and then I'll post it. If I search a Discord DM for "evil black magic" I think I'll find it.
>>8273826
So does that mean ufufu is hideous?
She has an angular face
There are people everywhere is horrible here
>>8273833
Most japanese people agree that they're ugly and japan is right in regards to beauty by default cause they created anime.
*sips soylent*
>>8273837
something like this is pretty? I don't know about attraction, I prefer men, but I do know what is ugly, and olivia manjaw falls "squarely" into that category. so does jolie.
>>8273856
eat real food
>>8273852
>this retarted response
>>8273844
I don't think I said only girls have hourglass either. I actually said most girls don't. I don't think anyone thinks that ur just being negative
>>8273845
No but ufufu doesn't look as prominently mannish as olivia wilde. she does have a bit of an angular jaw but it's not as overtly manly and gross as olivias, her face retains soft qualities, and general skin quality and such makes ufufu a really pretty girl.
It's so humiliating to walk around so many people without any make-up - not that I would pass anyways, but it still makes me feel horrible.
I look so disgusting, especially after crying so much
>>8273877
>she has a different opinion than me
>so she must be bitter!
No, I just find them REALLY ugly. I'm bitter too ofc, but about different things. and yes I'm an ugly hon with angular features.
>>8273852
is that like some random weeb fact you just splooged out?
>>8273877
>These are bitter hons.
singular, not plural
>>8273866
I'm just going to assume they are troll since that is a stupidly hilarious response
>when you have to go pick up your cypro at the pharmacy
I hope they think I have prostate cancer and I'm not a tranny
>>8273883
if u have time go to a coffee shop or a park or something and just try to relax and collect ur thoughts
>>8273791
Straight on is the worst for me. From an angle they're at least a bit 3d
>>8273799
I got 32B's a year ago hoping to grow into them. Idk what I'm gonna do honestly, I kinda want to get implants after 4 years of hrt but it's unlikely that I'll be able to afford that.
>>8273844
I hoped gaining weight would have it go to my chest but no such luck.
>>8273862
I do once a day, but it's easier to drink calories and I'm too depressed to eat three full meals.
>>8273895
like it or not angular features are considered attractive by many people. also if we were on jp you would get told to fuck off for being such a weeb cmon senpai
does anyone else find repressors adorable?
>I'm not trans but I want to be a girl
>I'm not trans but why am I jealous of my sisters vagina
>>8273907
like it or not angular features are considered unattractive by many people.
>>8273893
>tfw every pharmacist you've come out to has asked what your hrt regimen is
>>8273895
you're the only one baselessly screeching about angular faces, it's p obv
>>8273904
>I'm too depressed to eat three full meals.
I'm too depressed to make three meals, eating is the easy part
>>8273910
sadness is not adorable.
>>8273898
I'm too scared, but here are a lot of baby birbs near the river, but my cam is shit
>>8273910
I actually find them immensely obnoxious posters, specially the ones who treat repression as some point of pride.
>>8273910
>tfw couldent repress properly cause of beta face
>>8273893
>tfw weird pause when any heath person reads off your medications
>>8273899
Yeah, that's why I want to try losing it. My logic being right now I'm at a weight that my boobs can be easily dismissed as moobs. But if I'm really /thinspo/ they'll stand out more
They'll be smaller but breast tissue doesn't shrink.
>>8273910
People call me a repressed ever since I threw away my hrt
>>8273923
>In your opinion
no that's just objectively true. Most non-western countries consider angular features unattractive, it's a modern phenomena.
>>8273923
>She just wears makeup to hide it
so does olivia wilde and almost every cis girl ever
>>8273932
Source?
Paper?
>>8273917
Hence why I use Soylent. Breakfast and lunch I just grab a bottle and drink it.
Eating real food might be better, but I'm normally eating no food.
I just have to worry about dinner this way.
>>8273893
you have an endocrine disorder that's the excuse I use
just wait until you get mail addressed to your girlname
that miss feels good
>>8273921
It's only cause we wanted to be good at something ;-;
Although 4 months on hrt has mellowed and helped me immensely and made me less distressed like I was before.
>>8273917
>you're the only one baselessly screeching about angular faces, it's p obv
baselessly? Idgi. I'm spouting an opinion, nothing more, nothing less. that's literally everything going on everywhere on 4chan. You seem to be very defensive for some reason.
>>8273930
but thats literally what it is
>>8273923
>She actually has bad skin. She just wears makeup to hide it
what matters is the final product, ufufu looks much better than most. And most wear makeup.
>>8273943
Repressed is when you refuse to take hrt no matter what.
I've taken hrt for over 2 years and it never had an effect on me so that's why I dumped it
>>8273938
I don't have money for soylent
>>8273946
Ufufu looks like she FAS
>>8273937
look at all top kpop, jpop stars, look at old paintings, etc etc etc etc.
>>8273949
detransition over not passing is a form of repression lol
at least accept it for what it is
>>8273954
Those are your sources?
Lmao
>>8273952
$3.00 a meal isn't much I don't think, but I guess since you have to buy it in pretty weirdly sized packages it can be difficult.
>>8273953
not even remotely. This is a strange meme on the internet, but almost every time someone says someone looks like they have FAS they are just wrong. FAS is very noticable.
>>8273955
No it isn't
I could never pass because of my face and frame.
Why continue something that isn't helping?
>>8273958
Thousands of years of art and the people that succeed based on their beauty in other countries? yes, terrible sources.
>>8273924
you mean your gurlface
once you make your arms look like nims and grow out your hair you will look like a cute cis girl
>>8273955
>detransition over not passing is a form of repression
This. The definition of repression is the restraint or inhibition of something by force.
>>8273965
Saying "Welp it didn't work, guess I'll live my life as a cis male now." is is absolutely repressing your feelings.
Because you and I both know you can't live your life as a cis male.
>>8273961
She has a long smooth philtrum, railroad track ears and low nasal bridge
>>8273965
because the alternative is even more miserable lol
being a tranny is choosing the lesser evil of two choices that suck: a) repressing and slowly going insane and probably killing yourself or b) transitioning and facing social stigma
note that a sometimes leads to b at a later, less convenient date, rather than to suicide
>>8273961
sheen has fas
>>8273954
>kpop, jpop stars
>non-westerner opinions
so you're telling me that koreans and japaneses are supposed to have an opinion on angular faces when 99% of their populations are babyfaced?
>>8273960
$3 a meal is $9 a day - I'm here trying to stretch $70 until I can get some form of work, and you're saying I should burn it all in 8 days.
>>8273977
Yeah, fair enough. $9 is a pretty average food budget but that's assuming you work.
You can make your own soylent for much cheaper though, look into DIY soylents. You still have to prep it so it's not as easy, but you can make a bunch then just drink it.
>>8273977
Rice, Eggs And Ramen
rely on your REAR
>>8273974
>She has a long smooth philtrum
not like someone that has FAS she doesn't. Her philtrum alone is too normal and distinct for her to have FAS. her upper lip is too big, her nose is not that low, her eyes are too big. god you're so fucking retarded. fas means these things to an EXTREME degree.
does she look like this? no. then no.
>>8273982
I don't think you understand.
There's no "out" of being a tranny. There's zero way out of this, zilch, nada, gender dysphoria is incurable, the medical community didn't start recommending transition because they love us so much but because there is literally no alternative. You will be a tranny until the day you die. You're here forever.
Social stigma can be fought against, you can move to a friendlier place, surround yourself with less prejudiced people, mitigate it. The way repression slowly wears down your brain until you're absolutely insane? There's no mitigating that. It will break you one way or another.
>>8273995
I live in Portland which is suppose to be one of the best places to live for LGBT.
>>8273982
>I've done it for many years and I'm sure I can do it again
No you didn't anon, you were never a cis male and never will be. You were a repressed trans girl, and you want to be one again.
Dysphoria will follow you, and it will never stop following you.
>>8274003
I can't be one!
I don't have the frame for it.
Do you think a girl with a 33" underbust is fucking normal?
Or what about a girl with 43" shoulder circumference and 36" hips.
I can't transition. My body wasn't meant for it!
>>8273988
Maybe. Alternatively, I just take a multivitamin every morning with my antidepressants and AAs, and then try to do what I can with eggs, pasta, lunch meat, cereal, and periodically fresh fruit.
>>8273991
>Rice, Eggs And Ramen
>rely on your REAR
weeb tier
>>8274005
33 underbust is normal, so are your hips
also nobody measures shoulders by circumference
read the measurement data in the OP
>>8274007
So long as you're getting enough calories!
>>8274005
Hey, neither option is easy. I'm 6'3 and my shoulders are 20" across.
Shits rough, but I'd still rather try than give up. The chance of things working out for me if I continue my transition is higher than 0%, that's enough to make it worth not repressing.
>>8274013
pasta definitely helps me get there.
I'm also somewhat reliant on a really good friend of mine - he'll buy me a nice meal from chipotle or something every now and then, and is offering to let me live with him indefinitely if I'm homeless.
>>8274027
>there's shit people everywhere you need to find the good people and hang out with them
yeah stop hanging out with sjws
Hi, how do some trans women cope with not passing? Like it's obvious I have no hope of ever ever ever passing as female, but I can't delude myself into being one of those hons who deal with getting accepted, and I can't be in stealth forever. So what do?
i cooked too much rice and i am now dead, which essentially means i will achieve perfect weight loss anyway
>>8274040
start HRT and make a plan for FFS
>>8274050
I've been on HRT for five months but I'm seeing almost no results. And FFS is so expensive it would take me years to save up for it. Considering that every single day is a real, tangible struggle to not commit suicide, I really don't see how I can set a long-term goal like that. I'm not sure I'm even going to make it to tomorrow desu
>>8274060
I know my problems don't seem that serious, or they're probably the same problems a lot of people go through. I'd ask literally anybody else instead of seeking counsel on a tibetan agricultural image board, but there is nobody else for me to talk to.
It would be so easy to kill myself here
>>8274090
doesn't mean you should tho
>>8274069
This clears any confusion yes?
I hate them my shoulder are so fucking big they make me cry......
>>8274060
>HRT for five months but I'm seeing almost no results
The first year of HRT is probably the hardest because you don't see real results for a long time, and they're often so gradual that you won't notice the changes unless you have comparison photos. It really fucking sucks - I've been there. I've been in inpatient for anxiety and depression over not passing yet.
But you need to trust me when I say that time on HRT will absolutely make it better.
>>8274090
Careful, if you die on the internet you die for real
people id me more now and look at it for ages like they think it's a fake or something
>>8274091
But what else can I do?
>>8274092
Does cutting actually help people?
>>8274101
It helps me deal with the dysphoria and the pain -.-
>>8274093
That's what I hear, but HRT doesn't change bone, and I started after 27, so from what I've read my chances are almost zero. It would be different if I had maybe a good base to work with, but it's just too masc.
All I'm wondering is how people who don't pass cope with it besides settling for being accepted as trans. I can't be one of those people, I'll never be that. If there's no other way then that's fine and I know what I have to do. This is really just a last-ditch effort.
>>8274101
no. What it does is relieve emotional pain by distracting with physical pain and changing your body's chemistry to respond to that instead.
>>8274099
The greatest feeling was when the girl at the airport checked my passport and was like, "You have certainly changed since this picture was taken?"
I'm pregnant!
>>8274112
I think you should eat less 2bh
>>8274092
oh. sorry I didn't pick up on that at first. you should try not to do that if you can help it. you can try putting an elastic band around your wrist and snapping it as hard as you can. it gives a shock of pain and I find it kinda helps.
>>8274101
it's a coping mechanism and feels kinda good when you're in deep self hatred. also gives you like visible signs of your emotional pain when you kinda feel like you deserve to look like that or whatever
About to have my first psychiatrist appointment, really nervous. What kind of questions can I expect? I don't feel comfortable at all with my condition and don't know how to start talking g about it.
>>8274100
keep living for now and try to distract and work on flaws if you can. try mediation and breathing exercises
>>8274105
Yeah I don't know what I expected here. I guess it was worth one last try.
>>8274120
A good psych will ask you the right stuff, don't worry, just tell him what he asks for
>>8274105
I'd need to get my facts checked on this, but I'm pretty sure Angie transitioned in her late 20's, and passes now after a few years of HRT and some FFS. It's certainly not impossible, but you can't tell whether it will work or not until after you try.
And just so you know, you're not alone about not understanding how people cope with not passing. You just have to take it as motivation to work towards your goal.
tfw using the male bathroom with visible breasts
>>8274112
congratulations
>>8274118
I like the scarring desu, it makes me feel more disgusting and worthless than I already feel :3
But the people around me don't like it :/ so I have kinda considered going to a drop-in group for selfharm, I am just worried if they will think my selfharm is not legitimate >.<
>>8274105
god i wish that pic was me
>>8274120
just remember that you don't have to talk about anything you don't want to, and you can always see another psych if you don't like him.
>>8274130
>I am just worried if they will think my selfharm is not legitimate
all selfharm is legitimate
>>8274120
assuming you mean trans when he asks why you are seeing him today just say you are trans and experiencing dysphoria
>>8274134
that too
>>8274130
the people at self harm treatment places aren't retarded normies who think of things as legitimate or illegitimate. if you want to go to one you shouldn't worry about that kind of thing
>>8274133
birds are gross but being cis would be pretty cool
W-Wearing my bfs used underwear turns me on... I think I might be AAP
>>8274146
youre gross dont talk trash about birds
>>8274147
congrats senpai aap is top tier
>>8274151
you're not incorrect about me being gross but that doesn't change how disgusting birds are. they probably have shit stuck in their feathers and smell terrible
How the heck do I learn to braid my hair? :(
My hands fine motor skills does not seem to be up to the task :/
>>8274161
best would be get a friend or Mom to help. if u can't youtube tutorials are probably good
>>8274161
>>8274161
Are you black?
>>8274161
I can't do it either
I also can't tie the bow of an apron behind my bac, so idk
which pair should i get mtfg?
spotted or solid? or both they're only $5 a pair
http://www.strawpoll.me/12949122
>>8274171
that sounds like motor or coordination issues maybe. poor marinara if I was there I would help you
>>8274181
It was at my internship, the other girl helped me, but it was a bit embarassing
It's pretty ironic since i know 20 different knotting techniques and stuff, knotting stuff is one of my favorite hobbies
>>8274170
Nope. I am Scandinavian
>>8274171
Yeah, me neither lol
>>8274168
I tried to get my mom to do it once, but she just said it looked horrible on me, and then I wanted to die, and just quickly got it undone without looking. But she is really bad at stuff like that, no disrespect like she is better than me for sure, but worse than any cis woman my age
>>8274169
They always make it look so easy with straight hair, stuff is tough to do when it's all curly wavy everywhere
>>8274193
straighten your hair.
thank you to people who are nice to me even though i don't deserve it
>>8274154
youre just jealous i have a bunch of birds around my house that i feed every day and you dont. but thats okay. im not mad. i understand how you could be resentful.
So does adblock plus and ublock origin just not work for 4chan anymore? usually i only get ads at the bottom when the thread archives but im getting them right now. How to fix
>>8274198
Everyone deserve that some people are nice to them <3
How many of you see yourself becoming a wife and mother in the future?
Are there any good srs surgeons in europe?
afaik sweden will cover like 100% of the cost if done in the EU but Im also small and cut so I want suporn or chett
>>8274206
Bellringer.
Can / does estrogen make you feel sea sick?
>>8274201
I was just thinking the same thing
>>8274205
>wife
yes
>mother
I have to make it through adolescence first.
>>8274206
Dr. Schaff in Munich
He also uses scrotal skin and is a very skilled surgeon (microsurgeon)
But the waiting time is pretty long
Cis male here. I think transgirls who get srs are beautiful
I think it's great you are able to get that. The transformation of boy to girl is very heartwarming to me.
Hmm maybe I'm trans...
>>8274207
Well I am not even out to her :/
She still thinks I am male, but she is like everytime I visit home I get to hear her rant how she would rather have been born a man -.-, and her generally emotional state and interacting with people are masculine, cold and distant for the most part. my father is the sweet, caring and loving parent. But he does not like gay people, so I think he does not like trans either its why I am afraid of coming out >.<
>>8274219
Nawh you're just a nice person, thanks for the love and support anon.
What other generals do you visit? Outisde of /lgbt/.
>>8274227
/vg/ for whatever game im playing at the time
>>8274219
Do you want to be a girl?
>>8274227
Makeup gen
Hair gen
Skincare gen
Nails gen
Warhammer 40k gen
Horus Heresy gen
>>8274227
/sci/
Guess who I am
I love you
/g/ told me to go fuck myself so i guess 4chan is hemmoraging ad revenue and i should keep them on
>>8274227
Actually none
I'm on soc sometimes, but not very often
>>8274211
But I mean, hypothetically can you imagine yourself as a mother once you make it through adolescence? How do you imagine yourself in that scenario if so?
>>8274229
I mean yeah, I wouldent be distressed at all if I was turned into one, I'd love all that, having breasts, a vagina, being able to be open about emotions, dating guys, makeup, hair .
It would be really nice when I think about it. Every birthday wish and wishing well was "I wish I was a girl"
>>8274221
I just feel so happy for people who get to be who they want to be. I really feel for the girls trapped in guys bodys
>>8274242
as the best mom ever of course
>>8274242
I think I'm too broken as a person to raise a child. I'd like to be a mother, but it would be incredibly selfish.
>>8274245
That does sound like you are trans, but I know it's a hard way, so if you can live as a guy and feel good then that's preferable. But maybe it will get worse if you're older so idk
>>8274258
iktf :/
>>8274258
Sounds like my mother t.bh
Why is everything so scary? I want to die
>>8274261
I'm 19, I'm still a boy while other guys are big men.
I think you might be right. I'm happy being boyish, but not manly.
I have a gf, so I'm scared to change. She has said she feels like she's dating another girl and not a boy. She's done my makeup for fun and I really loved it.
Ive always been close with my big sister growing up and hung out with her more than my brothers, who I like but am scared of how they would react.
My parents never tried to stop me or force me to be a boy, I was always allowed to do what I wanted. So I think they would be ok.
holy crud i just wanna move out D':
apartments are like $800 a month and its ridiculous. its pretty much expected that youll have a partner or someone to live with so they charge so much. what are all the lonely transsexuals supposed to do :/
>>8274205
I hope I become a wife some day
I think I really could be a very loving and caring mother, but it seems too far away for me to fully picture right now. I think I have a lot of love to give and having a lackluster childhood myself would be extra motivation to actually care about my child even if we're not genetically related
>>8274281
cute
>>8274269
my mother decided it would be wise to cut me off from the majority of the world before I learned about its depths, but still expected me to interact with others pretty normally. I could get away with very little, and isolation from my friends was usually the punishment. And now, after so many shitty work and life experiences, she wonders why I'm afraid to go outside, thinking that me getting a shitty minimum wage job with shitty customers and shittier employees will somehow cure me of my depression and dysphoria.
>>8274295
>ly. I could get away with very little, and isolation from my friends was usually the punishment. And now, after so many shitty work and life experiences, she wonders why I'm afraid to go outside, thinking that me getting a shitty minimum wage job with shitty customers and shittier employees will somehow cure me of my depression and dysphoria.
are you me?
>>8274300
the life of a tran tran is life on nightmare mode. you gotta be stronger than the average girl just to break even and no one will pat you on the back to just achieve a normal stable life despite how it's an uphill battle against ourselves and people that hate our existence
Shit sucks but what can you do except just suck it up and do it ya know. one thing having such a shitty life since early childhood taught me is that crying about how much life sucks doesn't do anything but make you feel bad and your life just continues being bad and no one hut yourself can change or fix it
>ahem....
CAN ESTROGEN MAKE YOU SEA SICK OR IS IT SOMETHING ELSE??
i have a noose tied and it's secured to the rafters. i'm ready now, i don't know why i was so scared before when living is the scary part. hope you all do better than i did
>>8274313
are you on a boat in open waters?
>>8274309
but black trannies pass easily though
>>8274321
stop
>>8274321
Did you know there was a story where a repressed tranny saved a transitioning tranny from suicide because they was strong enough to break down the door and saved them
>>8274321
I'll believe you when you post a pic attention seeking faggot.
>>8274324
passing is only half of it. there's still anxiety, depression, dysphoria and all the other assorted difficult things that come with like. passing doesn't magically make all that disappear except some depression and dysphoria
it's still and uphill battle for passers because we are still trannies
>>8274227
/cyb/, /thinspo/. I'll usually post in the /vg/ for whatever game I'm currently playing.
I also occasionally will lurk skincare gen and just various generals that contain info on something I'm currently doing.
>>8274295
My parents used to be horrible, but now they are only weird.
They burned the Harry Potter book my brother bought, because magic is satanic, you know the first book that's for kids and pretty much harmless, my dad beat me up sometimes, but I deserved it, although I still get nightmares from that. And I was at least once locked into a small dirty room with no window for an hour or so, which felt like an eternity as a kid... And now my dad wonders why I don't want to be like him. Everyone should be like him, because he is perfect and everybody else is wrong. Especially scientists if what they say doesn't match his believes. And he said he'll never accept me as a girl or use my girlname even after an official change. I wonder why he got so mad when I said that I never wanted to have to do anything with him again... :/
And I still want to die
>>8274347
>Christians
and they wonder why they get so much hate. they are consistently shittier than non religious people especially to their kids. really makes me think
you deserved none if. that ridiculous abuse anon
>>8274343
cute
>>8274254
Korra, the truth is....
Ive never actually watched LoK.
>>8274258
Hm, Its depressing you cant see yourself being fixed enough to raise a child, but I guess I understand your logic.
>>8274276
Get a gun, nothing makes me feel more safe.
>>8274284
I dont give a shit about specific genetics, so long as I get a white one. Id still love the kid to the best of my ability. Of course I hope for test tube baby science to advance within my lifetime but that seems quite unrealistic.
I do want a kid, but I dont see myself being able to raise one right now either.
>>8274365
im sorry this is unforgivable im breaking up with you immediately (jk idk bb its not nearly as good as the first)
I'm working on perhaps the greatest /mtfg/ project in history, to surpass all tier lists, yet my data remains insufficient...
>>8274373
How often do you get clocked?
>>8274377
Why the fuck did phienchen get ffs?
>>8274377
I really like this concept
faye should be somewhere in the red tho IMO
>>8274379
maybe once ever few weeks or so sometimes it'll be months and months just depends on who I bump in to
cis black women have the easiest time clocking me tho
>>8274377
why am i in the middle
i would like to be a passer desu
>>8274392
where do you think you should be?
>>8274377
Wrong. I'm a Libertarian and despise strong government.
>>8274397
in the middle
>>8274377
me
>>8274392
you don't much care about people's politics and seem to get along with all sides of the compass just fine
politics r gay
>>8274388
>cis black women have the easiest time clocking me tho
Fuck I knew this was gonna be the case
Are they hostile when they do clock you?
>>8274398
lol we're almost
someone move in with me its impossible to rent an apartment by yourself and not have to work 60 hour weeks
>>8274418
*hugg*
>>8274405
hot
>>8274419
if I move in with you will we have sex?
>>8274377
Welp, I guess after all those hours on pol, I am at heart a degenerate :/
>>8274401
post a picture and you're in
im not deliberately going for unflattering pictures (of which the archives are full), my labor here is purely scientific
>>8274405
only lgbt politics though
>>8274300
no. The details are probably different, but that's the gist of it. At the moment, I'm trying to figure out whether she wants me to earn money or get outside so I can shape a plan from there.
I asked to be homeschooled in middle school, and she pushed me to go, putting me on the bus every single day (going to humiliating lengths to do so at times) even though I was constantly getting bullied by my peers.
I found two people that I could open up to when I was around 10, but one got bullied for being friends with me to the point where she stopped talking to me, and the other moved away.
I ended up clinging to some assholes because they were the only ones that wouldn't call me awful shit. I thought it would be better than being alone every day of my life.
>>8274347
burning harry potter books is fucking weird, and nobody ever deserves to hit their kid.
my mom's not bold enough to declare that she'll never call me charlotte, but the most she can bear is addressing letters to C because I've never introduced myself to the people in my building as [deadname]. She still deadnames me over the phone and in person, without acknowledging that I've done anything to transition.
Somehow, she manages to say she loves me and that she hopes I'm ok, even after claiming that I have unrealistic expectations for passing (that I've already met), I can't possibly know what's best for me, and that I'm abusive for saying I need $200 a month to feed myself. I have to feed her narcissism and detransition (if I'm reading her texts right), if I ever want her support.
I haven't spoken to her in almost a month, and I know that my last chance to apologize is mother's day. I can either beg forgiveness for getting mad about her constant TERF agenda, or I can give up on it entirely and learn to make enough money to feed myself.
>>8274355
I'm honestly fortunate that my parents are too selfrighteous to force religion on me, but my mom cares a little too much about what's natural imo
>>8274418
Damn, I had the right idea avoiding females of my own race then. You've basically confirmed everything I feared.
One more question, What do you think gives you away? Hair? brow? Jaw, Skull size? Shoulders? Body shape? Feet?
>>8274431
*Hugg Lotte*
It sucks that we all have it so bad :(
>>8274409
whichever race you are around most often you will have the easiest time telling people apart. it's why white people think all Asians look like girls and Asians think all white people look the same
>>8274377
She's so beautiful ;__;
And they are so close - such a perfect couple...
>>8274440
lol
people actually call me either Charlotte or Charizard irl, I'm just too lazy to change my trip again.
>>8274443
moap and phie would be a terrible couple
>>8274437
>maybe a little bit
ok I'll think about it
I live in vietnam with a wife and kids so it would be kind of a big change
I can't really speak english either
i'll let you know
/soc/still doesn't know that i'm
>>8274377
somehow lost mine.
image limit anyway, i guess. :/
3/4 libertarian
1/3 left
ptetty sure that's what it looks like.
use this image, please.
it's the most up-to-date
>>8274451
can you mail me some really good pho
>>8274453
>this whole post
get it together alines
>>8274451
thank
>>8274419
>she doesn't claim welfare
>>8274457
;~;
>>8274431
>even though I was constantly getting bullied by my peers.
I know how that feels. I was pretty um.. feminine i guess in middle school, and pretty emotional. I always always picked on because people thought i was gay. Eventually i just started repressing everything and become an emotional mute by senior highschool.
>>8274420
hugg anonn
>>8274432
literally all of those
im 6'0" and not pretty. I also have huge hands and feet, a noticable brow ridge and a strong jaw. the only reason I really pass at all is because most people just don't know what trannies look like on comparison to cis black women and they aren't very observant in the first place
anyone thats trans aware and knows what to look for can clock me really easily at best i look like a muscular black girl
>>8274444
*Hugg Lottchen~*
*Hugg LottLott*
*Hugg Lotti*
>>8274463
forgot trip
>>8274459
it's not easy senpai
>>8274464
Did you lose your old trip? I think I still have it somewhere
>>8274443
who is this even about
>>8274474
it's alright i already saved this one lol
>>8274463
I was a fat fuck in middle school into high school. But then I picked up anorexia and started self-medding in secret in high school. People made fun of me and I had literally zero friends and I cried a lot. But when I got to college life was pretty freakin great.
>>8274373
I tried rewatching the first one and couldnt even get through it, so I never got to LoK. Knowing ahead of time it wasnt as good, I struggled to find the motivation.
I know lots of people still loved it though.
>>8274412
Unfortunately correct, guns are one of the biggest benefits of being an American. Even pepper spray and stuff is illegal over there, isn't it?
>>8274413
Pretty similar, I just lean right where you lean left. In that way we're polar opposites :P
>>8274438
Thats a dumb semantic argument, stop redefining the terms and come up with a real argument. If I stand against government authority I am a libertarian, end of story.
>>8274419
okay i will
>>8274463
i basocally went through a twisted liberal version of that
>>>/soc/25239029
>>8274459
well i gotta do something thats for sure. sell underwear, turn some tricks, maybe find someone to findom, whack it on camera. cost of living is just too much for a single person and who in the world wants to live at work? talk about a cruddy life.
>>8274475
Not moap and phienchen
someone make a new thread so i can post my compass! Then i can show off how /pol/ i really am
>>8274488
Craig's list for a roomie and do interviews?
>>8274482
Pepper spray is legal here, but not everywhere in Europe. If I had a gun I would have already killed myself, butt there are cheaper methods anyways
>>8274488
>turn some tricks
Do this.
>>8274484
I already am.
Her ideas on transwomen offend me.
>>8274482
every country in the world except usa and Canada libertarian means anarchist or anti authoritarian communist
>>8274377
I'm not libertarian although I am centre right
>>8274463
I literally got called a faggot and a shemale before I knew what they meant.
Lol, I did boy scouts for a while to make my dad happy. One of the kids that bullied me was calling me gay on a camp out, and flashed me just to get a reaction. I started laughing, and he called me a fag for it.
Eventually I tried harder and harder to hide the things that made me different from other guys (stopped shaving my legs, got my hair cut short, tried to make my voice deeper) to the point where I was masking my entire personality. I thought I was a freak for wanting to be a girl. A stupidly high dose of ADHD meds, complete social isolation and extreme sleep deprivation definitely helped.
>>8273374
I was asleep.
I think we work ata Grocery store together