/tgg/ Trans Girl General

when will a boy love me /tgg/?

>>8207248
tough question

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Anybody else paranoid that despite being on HRT, they're getting even manlier? My body clearly has feminized, but I'm pretty convinced my manface is getting worse.

>>8210351
The feminization is making your male features stand out more. Remember, bone doesn't change.

>>8210388
another anon but
does bone change if I started when I was 18?

>>8210388
It fucking sucks. I used to think my chances were decent, but now my long horse face and giant crooked-ass jaw are more apparent than ever. Would putting on weight help at all? Ah well, I'm fucked regardless.

>>8210463
No

>>8210463

Existing bone isn't going to change but if you have any bone growth not yet done it could possibly be altered a bit.

So, what's the new survival shows? I'm starting to get into one of those moods again.

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I don't think "Radio Ga Ga" is supposed to make me cry this much

>be an ugly transsexual with dysphoria
>forced to take hormones constantly or your body start reverting to its normal form
>parents' money runs out
>have to seek employment from the pornographic jew
>only allowed to perform in demeaning tranny porn
>need to fuck men in the ass on camera despite hating your own dick
>this goes on until you're 25 and no one will hire you anymore
>need to turn to prostitution instead
>get killed by a violent client

Is this the tranny experience?

>>8214143
oh god
no, i get neetbux, fuck that shit

>>8214143
In 2nd/3rd world, probably.

1st world you can usually get neetbux.

>>8214636
Can anybody explain how they got "neetbux"? I take it this means disability income? I'm curious about the process.

>>8215043
My case had some "strong" points in the beginning, now I'm sort of riding the wave, and it's not all that hard to get it where I live.

In places like the US, it might be difficult though, I think more similar to 2nd world country.

>>8210501
>Would putting on weight help at all?
It could, but you'd have to put on quite a bit (say, 100+ pounds) before your face gets fat enough to hide horseface and manjaw.

>>8205993
fuck. fuck! i cant repress anymore. i was all set to wait a couple years and then start the titty skittles but dick dysphoria meant i never really did any sex stuff except for like watching lesbian porn and crying. i thought i would never have sex ever and i was ok with that because my girltinkler felt wrong. and I was sure that wanting to be a girl wasn't a sex thing and i know agp is something that cis girls exhibit but i could still forget the meme.

but no! i had to get fucking curious! i found my prostate a week ago and i cant stop fucking poking it at every opportunity and i just want a cute girl to mutually shove things up my butt and hers in a gay way.

turns out i do have a libido and its scaring me help what do i do

>>8215552
Yeah, I don't think that's really an option where I live but I was interested in learning more about it.

>>8215761
>i know agp is something that cis girls exhibit
???

>Mum, I'm gay
>Just don't act all gay around your father
>Dad, I'm gay
>You know I don't like gay people... So it's brave of you to tell me, I still love you
>Mum, Dad, I'm your daughter
>We still love you no matter what and we're so glad you didn't kill yourself. Let us know what we can do to help.

Parents are weird

>Come out to mum
>"fuck.jpg"
>"I always thought you'd say this"

Two days later

>Come out to Dad
>"I knew you were, but fuck I thought you were smarter than buying hormones of the internet"
>"I felt the same way for a long time myself but I never told anyone, it will be hard"

Now I'm just in this awkward limbo, I'm going to make an appointment with my GP tomorrow

>>8216538
What age was this? How did you realize you were trans? What crossdressing did you do before transition?

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>>8216415
Traditionalists are more okay with trannies than with fags, specifically because they "get with the program." At least a tranny is TRYING to be normal. A fag lifestyle will never, ever be compatible. This is the same line of thinking in "we don't have gays" Iran, where they subsidize transition. Only in urban, coastal shitholes will parents say, "why can't you just be gay?" They don't get it.

>>8216567
This was more or less today, I've been crying at all the wasted time and the further I look back the more apparent the wasted time is
Spend days locked up in my room wearing mum's clothing
Just being normal, nothing really sexual unless I made it sexual
I had been doing it since I was 6 but they found out when I was 8
But on and off throughout my life I've always felt off, not right about who I am, I found out about that there are pills at about 15 but it was around then they found a lot of my clothes and stuff so I repressed it, it's only just come back really fucking bad and now I can think for myself I just took the plunge and told them, I feel a lot better now that I can trust them with it but fuk wasted time

>>8216585
>when being trans is more normal than being gay
Thanks psychiatric power. Foucault a shit.

>>8216585
But my parents think Islam a shit AND I live in an urban coastal shit hole... in Australia

I get what you mean though

>>8216632
How much time? How old are you now, amd have you gone on hrt yet?

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>>8215589
Ugh. Is there even a point in FFS if I probably can't ever afford it until well into my 30s? Things go downhill at that age anyways. I want to be pretty in my 20s.

>>8216228
i mean they wear panties and shit thats agp right?
really though feminine sexuality seems more selfish? internally focused. guys don't dress up and shit in the same way

>>8217484
To me there's no point in FFS at all unless you somehow have feminine proportions (midface/chin/jaw length) and maxillofacial should be prioritised above that. Even then it feels pointless if shoulders are wide and hips are narrow and torso/leg ratio is masculine

>>8217600
>i mean they wear panties and shit thats agp right?
No, getting aroused by it is.

>>8217324
20, so it would have been about 14 years wasted being a dude :/
I'm pretty andro anyway, I usually get ma'am'd a lot
I'm gonna try and start as soon as possible

>>8207248
i love you, anon.

>>8217607
>Even then it feels pointless if shoulders are wide and hips are narrow and torso/leg ratio is masculine
I don't think so, more people will see your face than your body, at least you can use clothes to minimize any masculine features.

FFS could definitely make some ppls daily life easier.

>>8217607
There are girls with super short legs, they tend to have pretty long legs, but some have tiny ones.

>>8220192
But those girls don't have giant torsos or man shoulders. And they usually have good hips and thighs, which are further highlighted by the short legs.

>>8218679
>FFS could definitely make some ppls daily life easier.
Definitely, but I'm saying that it won't for me since I don't really have any prominent masculine features face wise aside from proportions which would require maxillofacial surgery.

>>8220192
see>>8220268

>>8222841
>maxillofacial surgery
FFS is maxillofacial surgery.

>>8223031
Do FFS surgeons do Le Forte? So far as I was aware they just bone shave?

>>8223091
Some might, but... Do you have any idea how much that costs?
You have to do the same cut on the lower jaw, and then you'll need braces... Which can be a decade, to fix your bite.

Have you actually asked the good surgeons? If that's what you want, why don't you just go to a standard maxilloficial surgeon?

>>8223196
>Some might, but... Do you have any idea how much that costs?
Really expensive, it's more invasive than standard FFS. My health insurance covered me having a maxillofacial surgeon remove my wisdom teeth and that alone was 8k AUD
>Have you actually asked the good surgeons?
Not yet, I'm thinking of talking to the surgeon who did my wisdoms but he's like $600 for a consultation so I wanna have all my questions prepared so I don't waste time/money

I dunno, I'll probably perma boymode anyway

>>8223251
Pretty sure you can just call him, or email him, to ask if he would even be willing to do it on you, for the purposes you want.

The consultation is meant to be more or less pre-surgery, to be certain that it'll be performed, and you get to ask your questions and he'll go through with you what he would do.

>>8223275
Good points, I'm going to call him next week. Thanks Anon!

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Don't die, little thread.

>>8226720
yay!
someone else actually keeping the thread alive
this thread has died before because i didn't bump it
it's like doesn't anyone else care?

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>>8226841
I think I made the very first thread... But I don't really have much to say, and kind of difficult to make conversation here, so I end up not posting much.

>>8226841
I like this thread but it just goes so slow and you don't get many responses.

It makes sense though cause it's easy to run out of things to talk about.

>>8228165
It's kinda hard to talk about things even.
I've started playing games again, well ocassionally at least. The time I don't, I usually like to just watch youtube, and even streams, or fantasize about bfs... Which you can't really talk to people on here about.

Maybe if I actually had a life, there'd be some thing to talk about.

My family is closet homophobic, but openly transphobic. Basically, my mom "loves the sinner, hates the sin." They've always thought of me as unmanly, and they've always expected me to be gay, but that didn't make sense to me until I realized I was trans. It's been eating away at me and I just want them to know, even though my therapist and my psychiatrist both think I should wait. How bad of an idea would it to be to come out as gay and then some months later come out as trans? Please give me the strength to go on ;_;

>>8228215
Probably not good, since they can throw you out. Get friends to talk to online instead, if you want to talk to people.

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>>8228210
We can all fantasize about bfs together.

You can't, really, this is too slow paced. Bf talk is too action packed for it.

>>8228224
I don't think they would throw me out, they would just ridicule me and look down at me at worst. My addict brother was abusive to everyone in my family for years and my mother put up with him until she sent him to rehab. I'm 20, so it's not like they can send me to conversion therapy.

>>8228321
But they can throw you out if you don't go to conversion therapy. It's a huge risk coming out to bigots... And there's no way they'll let you transition. It's better if you just self-med in secret, until you can live on your own.

So I've had 10 sessions of laser, but I still have some problem areas that won't go away. My current tech doesn't seem to take the small problem areas seriously, like the reason I even have these scattered small spots with stubble still is because she keeps going over the same places over and over. I don't really like being treated like something icky to deal with. But I only have to pay $50 for it.

On the other hand, I did a consultation at another place that uses a different type of laser and seems to take my complaints about these small areas seriously. The tech was nice and didn't seem to have issues referring to me as female. But it's going to cost a lot more.

So I'm stuck between a place I don't like and is cheap but may be throwing my money down a rathole that won't give me the results I want but it might still work versus a place they seem to care about getting it right more and I'm more comfortable with but costs more.

>>8228442
How much more is the better place?

It might just be that those hairs can't be removed by laser, and you need electrolysis.

>>8228473
Quite a bit more, like one session would be $150. I'm really unsure, because the other place that charges $50 just doesn't seem to give a shit. Like the reason these areas aren't the same as everywhere else is that I was ignored and the tech just kept going over the same places. I just have these patches where it seems like the laser didn't pass very much. It's stuff like on the very bottom of my upper lip where it reaches the lip, the bone of my jaw, the corner of my chin, the line around my adam's apple.

I have super light skin and very dark hairs, so I dunno if I need electro or if it really is just the cause of bad work by the tech.

>>8228564
Maybe it's worth trying once? If the current ones aren't effective, it's kind of like throwing away money, I guess.

It's its few hairs, you could just go with electrolysis.

>>8228564
I'm having the same problem with my upper lip. It could be something to do with growth cycles, apparently it works best if the follicle is in an active growth cycle. How often are you having treatments done?

>>8228866
Not that anon but I have the exact same problem with my upper lip too. Do you have any idea how to tell if a follicle is in a growth cycle? I've had my mustache area cleared 7 times completely now and hairs keep coming back and I am SICK OF IT

>>8228883
No idea, it's driving me insane too. I've been going every 3 weeks, I've had probably 10 sessions or so. I'm thinking of dropping back to 4 weeks. The upper lip is the hardest area to clear, apparently.

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Does anyone have any experience with black spots on their lips?

I have a spot in around the same area that the girl in his pic has hers but i also have three lining the lower outline of my lower lip.

What lotions do you use for body lotion?

Lotions specifically for hands too?

Thank you!

would the thrift store/goodwill be a good place to find some cheap clothes to try on? i want to try dressing up for the first time soon

>>8229191
That's a good place. They have a lot of cheap options.
I can't bring myself to buy anything though. The embarrassment and shame get too strong even when I'm in the store.

What are some good clothes to buy that are andro without being too feminine?

Like something that makes a person look more feminine but not like outright queer.

My usual getup is hoodie and baggy jeans right now. I'm obviously still in boymode.

>>8229434
I usually wear boyfriend jeans, with sweaters.

So with the warm weather coming, what do you all do to hide your adam's apple?

>>8229967
Removed it! Twice! Partly lost my voice though... But that's ok.

>>8229992
Do you have any suggestions for finding a good surgeon for that? It's my next goal.

>>8229967
never developed one :^)

>>8230000
Had one done for free on health care, which was pretty botched, uneven, and almost made it worse. Then I went to Bart, who removed A LOT, but also got voice damage. I kind of blame it on the first surgery being so uneven, making the CAT scan a bit inaccurate and hard to read.

Really, any known ffs surgery can do it, it's not a complex surgery. Make sure they actually do a CAT scan before it though, since they won't know how much they can remove without one.

>>8230015
>Had one done for free on health care, which was pretty botched, uneven, and almost made it worse.
Jesus. Canada or Scotland?

>>8230027
Sweden... The surgeon didn't even take a cat scan before it, but he said he could remove a lot of it.

But... You know like, the cartilage about the pointy part of your adams apple? He only shaved down that, maybe took of a mm or two on the actual adams apple... Which increased the angle of my adams apple, basically making it worse. I was pretty devastated after that, ended up crying in the surgeons office afterwards when he said he didn't think he could remove anymore.
Thought it was hopeless, but spent some money (around 500€) on a consultation and cat scan to get a confirmation at Bart. Luckily there was something he could do about it, I was really skeptical about it, and was ready that I'd get a damaged voice from it, so I was somewhat mentally prepared for it (I'm hoarse now, with weaker volume).

Bart removed another 9mm from it, now you can still see the bump of it, but it's as big as the bump below my adams apple. I have like a really "skinny" neck, practically no fat on it.
I would actually suggest people to not go through health care when removing it, unless they do a cat scan, and just pay for it themselves. Going through the health care might just worsen the situation.

>>8230073
I don't know how they can get away with this kind of treatment.

>>8230073
I'm sorry that happened to you, that's awful. I have a long and thin neck myself so that's why surgery is required, thank you for sharing your story so I know what to look out for.

>>8230129
Health care gets away with a lot of things... It's really hard to complain, and even if you get to complain, nothing will be done about it.
Trans care is on the absolute bottom when it comes to priority, too, I don't think these surgeons have actual education in the surgery.

>>8232528
It's really sad.

>I don't think these surgeons have actual education in the surgery
Why not?

>>8232591
If they had education on it, they'd do a cat scan, and their results should be better. They probably just know how to work with cartilage stuff around there, but I don't think they have the cosmetic education.

Please is this surgery legit I need to know :(

http://www.dr-kimura.com/ope-list/other/

The shoulder one

>>8232790
I've never heard of one of those being performed for aesthetical reasons.

Maybe it's legit, I have no idea. Pretty sure it's a physically possible surgery at least... I imagine it's pricey though, with a very long recovery time.

>>8232871
From the website:

Swelling: One Month
Stitches: 7th day

>>8228883
>>8228916
i can deal with hair on the upper lip but cannot deal with the shadows.

Does it still leave shadows?

>>8233377
Her shorts are damn small.

>that keeps agp to a minimum
For what purpose?

>>8233392
because some people arent fans of that puerile roleplay bullshit?

>>8233403
Edgy opinion you got there.

I want to get my blood work done today but i ate about half a cups worth of chicken fajita.

Will not fasting and having this in my stomach fuck over the blood draw?

>>8233760
I have no idea...
Some tests require fasting, and some tests don't require fasting.

PLEASE TELL ME IF THIS SHOULDER SURGERY IS REAL

http://www.dr-kimura.com/ope-list/other/

PLEASE TELL ME IF THIS SHOULDER SURGERY IS REAL

http://www.dr-kimura.com/ope-list/other/

PLEASE TELL ME IF THIS SHOULDER SURGERY IS REAL

http://www.dr-kimura.com/ope-list/other/

PLEASE TELL ME IF THIS SHOULDER SURGERY IS REAL

http://www.dr-kimura.com/ope-list/other/

PLEASE TELL ME IF THIS SHOULDER SURGERY IS REAL

http://www.dr-kimura.com/ope-list/other/

PLEASE TELL ME IF THIS SHOULDER SURGERY IS REAL

http://www.dr-kimura.com/ope-list/other/

PLEASE TELL ME IF THIS SHOULDER SURGERY IS REAL

http://www.dr-kimura.com/ope-list/other/

PLEASE TELL ME IF THIS SHOULDER SURGERY IS REAL

http://www.dr-kimura.com/ope-list/other/

PLEASE TELL ME IF THIS SHOULDER SURGERY IS REAL

http://www.dr-kimura.com/ope-list/other/

PLEASE TELL ME IF THIS SHOULDER SURGERY IS REAL

http://www.dr-kimura.com/ope-list/other/

PLEASE TELL ME IF THIS SHOULDER SURGERY IS REAL

http://www.dr-kimura.com/ope-list/other/

>>8234702
I don't think you'll find anyone here who's had it, if it was well known there'd always be talk about it.

Contact them about it I guess? Find some Japanese trans forums or something.

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>be on hrt for over 4 months
>come back from college
>cat doesn't seem to recognize me anymore
is it because I smell different? have my pheromones changed that much?

>>8236079
how close were you to the cat before?
maybe kitty just wasn't close enough to you before?

>>8236079
No, it's because cats are fucking idiots. Do you really think they can remember something for 4 months?

>>8236110
I mean I got him when he was a kitten and he's 15 now, so it's not like he's unfamiliar with me. He usually sleeps on my bed with me, meows at me all the time to get my attention, etc... but now he doesn't do any of that. makes me super sad

>>8229111
body lotion rn I use a brand called live clean

hand lotion I use some from cake beauty

>>8214636
>>8214480
People like you are the reason why our society won't last much longer

If you are useless socially, please don't be useless economically as well

>>8237677
>People like you are the reason why our society won't last much longer
Then society shouldn't have made me this way, they should've given me help, and let me transition as a child.

This is what society wants for us, they want us to suffer and have bad lives, they want to have us to look down on to make themselves feel better. Basically, this is a job, a really bad job.

>>8236150
that is very sad

Anyone here switch from Cypro to Bica? How'd it go?

I'm mostly doing it because cypro is making me depressed..

>>8237677
>People like you are the reason why our society won't last much longer
and is that supposed to be a bad thing?

>>8205993
>tfw you need ffs
>tfw ywn afford the $50k necessary for it

>>8239272
It can be a lot cheaper than that, like full ffs for $30k. You might not even need full ffs.

Make it managable, figure out what the worst things are, and figure out who is a good surgeon for those parts (don't cheap out on it, some surgeons, like that south american team, can cause a lot of damage).

>>8239462
But I heard the only worthwhile surgeon in NA was deschamps braly, and he's insanely expensive. The other big one seems to be Spiegel, but he's been getting tons of shit lately

>>8239485
Then go abroad.

alright i need advice

my trip to europe is on the 23rd and i just got my bica in yesterday

im on cypro now and it tends to make me sad and overthink things more than i usually did, which was still a lot

im wondering if i should switch to bica now or wait until i come back from my trip

i don't wanna be sad on my trip but i don't want to start bica and end up having a worse reaction to it or something

i just want to feel happy for my trip, i don't want to waste it.

>>8239703
You have over 2 weeks to test bica, so just go with it.

>>8239723
How long should I take to wean off Cypro?

>>8239827
Assuming you take 50mg, you can quit immeidetly. Wait a couple of days, and then start bica... I guess. I mean I'm not a doctor, but that sounds about right?
Cypro isn't like anti-pscyhotic, or SSRI/SNRIs, they really don't' affect much other than blocking testosterone.

>>8239838
I've been told that stopping Cypro immediately can give you issues.

>>8239853
Have you never missed a dose? By a day or two?
With most medication where you have to wean off, you'll notice side effects if you miss a dose.

For example, when I quit effexor, I went from 150 or 200mg to like 12.5mg in 2 weeks, it was suggested to be done over 2 months... But after I was down to 12.5mg, if I didn't take a couple of the mini pellets (if I opened the capsules there were small pills), I'd feel severe side effects. So it took me nearly a month to lower that dose, and try to go further and further between doses before I could go completely off them.
They basically make your "system" addicted to them, or reliant on the chemicals, so your body ends up needing some time to adjust.

If your dysphoria, wish to become a girl and social anxiety gets smaller/better when you are abstinent from porn (and maybe fapping), what does this mean? Even my urge to fuck a girl with my dick like a guy increases, in contrary of wanting to have sex as a girl.

What I watch most of the time
>3D: lesbian, girls only masturbating; videos and still images alike, amateurs prefered
>2D:female only, yuri, some fetishes, focused on still images, sometimes SFM.
>basicly never imagin fucking the girl, just watching
>not trap, sissy, shemale or futanari stuff
>no gay/yaoi stuff
>streight stuff is more of an exception (dont like seeing the guy), but when, its from vanilla over facials, anal, public to sometimes gangbang (no interracial or fake bbc shit though)

>>8240036
https://sillyolme.wordpress.com/faq-on-the-science/

>>8239565
Facial Team are the only ones who are on par with American FFS surgeons, though, especially Deschamps-Braly.

>>8240161
Are there even any good surgeons in the US? After Dr. O retired, I don't think there's anyone to replace him.

Most of the surgeons doesn't even do type 3 forehead, and so likely won't do proper jaw work either.

Am I the only one here with a visible adam's apple?

>>8240086
this reputable or some AGP stuff? What do you want to tell me? I started skipping into it, but its long af

>>8240211
How visible? If it's just a tiny bump, many cis women have that. Or do you mean Riley-tier apples the size of actual apples?

>>8240236
I think you'll be better off not reading into AGP topics, trusting your true NON SEXUAL feelings and going to a therapist.

>>8240249
>true NON SEXUAL feelings
which are, starting from my first question?

>>8240240
My Adam's Apple is larger than Riley's.

>>8240296
My condolences. Fuck, thats unlucky. You should aim to get a trach shave asap

>>8240300
It doesn't matter if I do or not, I'm 6'1 and look way older than I actually am.

I was fucked from the start.

>>8240211
No, I have one too.

Gotta say, I often feel like I am because I rarely hear anybody talking about ways to deal with it.

I'd like to start girlmoding in the summer or so but I don't think that's gonna be possible with this nasty ass tumor on my throat, and it'll be a while before I can get it surgically taken care off.

I feel like I'm gonna be killing my self soon. There's nothing I can do about my 21.5cm face length. That's 99th percentile for MEN.

What else am I supposed to do? All the HRT in the world won't fix that.

>>8240398
surgery

>>8240398
That sucks, but don't give up. I know it's not quite the same thing but plenty of women, cis and trans, have features that make them feel ugly. You just gotta keep going and hopefully find people that don't care about your horse-face.

>>8240423
There's no surgery for long midface

>>8240428
But they don't all have features that stop them from passing..

>>8240433
Passing isn't everything. I know, I know, it is a big deal, but it's not the end of the world.
Once again, you need to find the right people that don't care.

>>8240450
It is everything.

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Fucking cis girls... Even when they're in the jungle without hygienic articles, they still look great...

>>8240398
Wait how did you get this percentile info?

Fuck, I just measured and I'm like 19cm, maybe even 20. As if I didn't have enough things to be dysphoric about already. Just kill me pls

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>>8241336

>>8241355
>50th percentile of men
>95th percentile of women
Fuck. Why were we put on earth just to suffer.

>>8210501

Facial femme surgery, dummy. Relax and _or on your female skills.

>>8241121
I always assumed that those shows are fake and they shower + makeup everyday

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>>8241523
Nope, they get armpit hair and everything.

I think this girl won a shower like a few days ago though... But she didn't really look any worse before that.

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I'm coming out to my parents in a few hours
wish me luck

I think this is the right place to ask such question,
where do I pick up mtf trans/traps/etc. ?

>>8243086
Good luck.

>>8243326
I don't know.
Tinder? ok cupid? other dating sites? a coffee stop?

How do I convince myself I'm worth it, that it's okay for me to have estrogen even though I'm not "real" woman? I feel so terrible. I'm not good enough.

>>8243689
Don't think of it in terms of being a man or being a woman. You have a medical condition that causes you discomfort with your male physical sexual characteristics, and by taking HRT you will fix those characteristics and therefore make yourself comfortable. You can worry about the complicated social and emotional stuff later; right no you just have to tend to your immediate physical needs.

>>8243086
how did it go?

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discuss

>>8243326
this is not really the right place. this is a thread for transgender women to discuss stuff not for you to find a tranny fuck.

>>8244145
idk much about them or that story i just know gen is a rly strange person but from what i know they are still happy so whatever

>>8233359
The part on the rest of my face where it has cleared apart the occasional errant hair/light hairs I don't have any shadow. That said my facial hair was fairly sparse compared to the general population to begin with.

>>8236150
That really sucks, Anon. How long have you been back? Maybe they're not quite certain of you? Do you speak to them with your normal voice or girl voice?

>>8240433
>There's no surgery for long midface
>what is Le Forte

>>8205993
What could you expect if you were to start transitioning at 18 or slightly younger than 18?
Are there decent odds of being passable?

>>8244133
This desu

>>8247162
Younger is always better, but the biggest factor after age started is individual genetics. There's people that have no hope at 16, and there's people that pass just fine starting at 26.
Just fucking do it.

>>8247228
But I'm tall and manly looking, even with make-up on. I'm basically hopeless

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How did I do on my eyemake-up?

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>>8247566
For comparison.

No bully on the facial hair, please. I'm not out at work yet. Since starting HRT on Friday, I've decided to turn into a hermit until I've perfected my make-up enough to pass with some regularity.

>>8247595
>>8247566
don't blacked your eyes.
get a tan you will be fine

How do I tuck all day? like going to work for example. My tucks tend to hurt after a couple hours.

>>8247595
You have to wash your face and shave every morning or you'll never be qt
Speaking of make-up though, how do you apply beauty balm?

>>8247865
I'm partial to the Goth aesthetic. How was my make-up application?

>>8247993
I'm taking the process slow. I'd rather spend money on hair removal than razor blades. Furthermore, I'm not concerned with being cute so long as I pass.

Not sure on beauty balm. Probably the same as foundation.

>>8247331
I doubt it you're probably just doing the thing almost all transgirls do where they don't have an accurate self image. just do it anyway

>>8247889
I'd like to know too

Vanessa, Oryx forgives her

was supposed to drop that message here on account of somebody who can't access 4chan on account of being in turkey.

I remember when i tried to get into the /mtfg/ discord and i quickly realized that it was nothing but a circlejerk between the usual tripfags

>>8249038
probably meant to do it on /mtfg/ not /tgg/

>>8249074
theres like 30 mtfg discords lol

>>8249038
>being in turkey.
wew lass

So is the general consensus that Bica is better at blocking DHT than Cypro but that Bica + Finasteride would provide the best blockage of DHT?

I'm stopping Cypro due to severe depression and I'm a little weary of Finasteride because a side effect of it seems to be depression as well.

Only my temples are receded, will Bica be enough?

>>8236150

It could just be because of being away for a while. When I first came home from college my cat took at least a week to readjust to me being back before she would hang out with me again.

>tfw you will never know how it feels to have a natural vagina

>>8252318
>tfw no genital dysphoria

>>8252373
congrats

What does hon mean im a straight cis male no one is telling me what it means :(

>>8252471

Ugly non-passing mtf trannies that transitioned when they were old and barely put any effort in, basically.

>>8205993
Does your face continue to feminize after the one year point? How much so compared to the first year?

Also, what about the body? Anyone know if that changes more after the first year or less?

>>8254692
Have you tried looking at some timelines?

>>8254726
It's just hard to tell for sure, like whether they use makeup or angles. Or if I'm just imagining things.

>>8251727
there is no general consensus because all the info ppl are posting about bica they got from unsourced posts on anon image boards

>>8254692
puberty takes like 10 years to mostly complete

>>8205993
>email my gf at the time
>tell her I've been questioning my gender for awhile
>mention that I've been doing vocal training, etc.
>very nervous but kind of excited
>she freaks out
>turns out she isn't into girls (in the past she said she was bi)
>very upset because she thinks our relationship has to end now
>I backpedal hard and spend days convincing her I was wrong
>have to throw out my girlclothes (secretly keep some but no longer use them)
>grow stubble for the next time I see her
>stop vocal training
it's almost been 2 years since then and I'm single and not any closer to transitioning. I was already pretty confused and not 100% sure about being trans so I think that experience, forcing myself to deny it and try to hide it, just fucked me up more

oh well lol

>>8217610
Which cis girls are known to do, too.

>>8255289
you cucked yourself by throwing out your girlclothes

>>8255294
Why would cis girls be aroused by panties? I don't imagine it'd be much different for them than a man putting on boxers

>>8255301
She knew about those two pieces of clothing and basically told me to throw them out. I was just doing whatever I had to to convince her that I was a boy. There was a bunch of stuff that she was no longer okay with in hindsight, like when I shaved my legs once. It was not a fun time.

I kept the more expensive stuff, that she didn't know about. I've started using them again recently too.

>>8255303
Not just regular panties. But if a cis girl got all dressed up in lingerie, etc., it would be pretty normal for her to feel sexy and be turned on as a result. Nobody labels that as agp though.

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>>8255333
>Nobody labels that as agp though.

>>8255345
i dont know this meme

>>8255309
Lmao you deserve it for being such a doormat to some bitch, kys

>>8256604
Are you okay?

>>8255333
lol do you really think women sit alone in their rooms and put on lingerie because it makes them feel sexy? they put it on to make their man horny, thats what makes them feel sexy lol

>>8256701
Some teenage girls get aroused the first few times they put on a bra, and thongs, and the likes.

>>8256987
How do you know this?

>>8256987
>t. agp

help, i can't cum and my balls hurt

>>8257425
yahoo answers or something like that.

>>8257452
Leave these threads, they are not for you.

>tfw very feminine body but masc face
;_;

>>8257569
>tfw you're fucked and slowly are realizing how fucked you are and are beginning to drop your illusions of hope

>>8257569
iktf

>>8257454
I wish that happened to me

>>8257644
it doesn't feel good, i just want to die

>>8257580
How so, anon?

>>8257665
Usually your balls hurt when they are atrophying. Are you on cypro?

>>8247566
terrible application, please watch youtube tutorials. violently avoid the raccoon eyes aka black eyeliner all the way around. Try to start with a winged liner look.

if you like goth aesthitcs a few good youtubers to look at for make up are It's Black Friday, ReeRee Phillips and Drac Makens. I would HIGHLY encourage you not to go 110% goth, at least not straight away (White foundation will make your facial hair standout terribly and there's no way to colour correct under it) just try a few eyeshadow looks, once you get a good smoky eye down you'll be golden.

the easiest way to get clocked is by going too harsh on your make up, especially if you have no skills in applying. avoid bold, bright and harsh colours, stick to neutrals/naturals until you get more skill and your hrt takes off. harsh make up shows off harsh masculine features.

>tfw wanna tell the trans girl i see around town to ditch the dark purple lip and to drawn in her eyebrows instead
she'd be so passable if not for a few changes

>>8257759
100mg spiro

>>8241121
>look great
>she's white

eh

>>8241121
That's not great at all

>>8258100
Far better than a tranny would in the same situation

>>8258116
Not necessarily.

>>8257759
>Usually your balls hurt when they are atrophying.
haha, what? I've been on cypro for 6 months, almost undetectable t, massive reduction in size but zero discomfort

>>8257569
I wish I knew how to accurately view my own body/face. I stare in the mirror sometimes and I genuinely can't tell whether I have feminine or masculine features. I don't know what I'm looking for.

Anybody else feel this way?

>>8251213
Damn that's a lot of circlejerks

>>8261112
yea, i feel you
when i look at myself in the mirror it feels like i have tried seeing my face in too many different perspectives and it has gotten kinda surreal and i have no idea what anyone thinks of my face

Sooo... I've been playing a certain mmo. And eventually party up with a certain guy who is super sweet. And I'm super sweet and kind right back, because why wouldn't I be?
And he keeps calling me "girl" and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside, and he's pretty nice to chat with and helpful and plays well. And he's also from the other side of the world so no possible (irl) relationship ever and no delusions of it in any side.

Problem is, he gifted me a whole lot of expensive gear because he likes me and I'm "an actual girl in a game", and we've even got in contact outside of the game. He had voiced his concern about boys playing/rping as girls before, and even indirectly asked if it wasn't the case for me, and I indirectly answered that yes, I'm an actual girl.
But now we're getting in contact out of the game and he even asked for facebook (which I don't have, fortunately), and I don't know if I should few guilty about getting the gear as a dickgirl and ask him if it is alright or if I should just shut up and own it and use it to healslut like never before and support him.
Half of me wants to say to him that I'm not cis so that neither him nor me feel that I was cheating him, if he ever comes to know it. And since I don't fully pass yet and I tend to get close to people really fast and be super sincere, well...
The other half thinks that if I passed fully well, I wouldn't even care - so I should just keep doing what I'm doing and not explain what I don't need to, as for all purposes I am a girl and acting otherwise would be a denial of myself. While not "coming out" would actually help me deal with future passing. But I can't help but feel guilty of fooling him over it, and would probably freak out or screw everything up if he ever wanted to voice chat or share pics or something.

Please help?

>>8263195
>He had voiced his concern about boys playing/rping as girls before, and even indirectly asked if it wasn't the case for me, and I indirectly answered that yes, I'm an actual girl.
What was his concern about boys rping as girls? How did you indirectly say you were a girl?

>say to him that I'm not cis so that neither him nor me feel that I was cheating him, if he ever comes to know it.
How do you think he would take it?

>>8258545
What I mean is that balls hurting sometimes is not something to get super worried about while on cypro.

>>8263205
>What was his concern about boys rping as girls?
That they are weird and only use it cheat, scam or get benefits. I would add because sexual gratification too, but he didn't.

>How did you indirectly say you were a girl?
He said that people tend to treat girl chars more gently and offer more help. To which I asked "Even though most people who play girl chars are boys?", which implied I'm not.
Then we got in the conversation in which he voiced his concerns, and then I said that "yes, its basically that, my bf's father did that in other mmo, got really weird when people wanted to voice chat and he went for it.", which further implied girl because bf.
He never asked me directly, I never answered it directly. But he brought up moodyness from periods the last time we chatted and said something the likes of "you know how it is", so it's pretty clear that he thinks I'm full cis.

>How do you think he would take it?
Absolutely no idea, which is half the problem. He might be disappointed, he might be neutral, he might be impressed; he's not religious, but he believes in god, he's not traditional but values and wants a family and is super organized... I never prodded for his opinion on this so I'm really not sure.
Should I even care about what he would think? Wouldn't it be the right thing to only choose the most correct path, regardless if he'll turn out to be a secret chaser or if he'll curse me, my family and my weeby ways?

>>8263267
what mmo?

>>8263267
>That they are weird
Code for trans.

>I would add because sexual gratification too,
Still sounds trans.

How do you handle voice chat?

>Should I even care about what he would think? Wouldn't it be the right thing to only choose the most correct path, regardless if he'll turn out to be a secret chaser or if he'll curse me, my family and my weeby ways?
Idk anon, idk.

>>8263281
Come on, anon. Is it even important?
Let me at least try and have some semblance of anonimity, here.
It is a korean one, like all are. And it is one a huge weeb would play despite being korean, which is 90% of them.

>>8263295
>code for trans
Not really, in this case.
Most people who play girls in mmos really don't do it because they feel more comfortable being girls, which would be trans.
Like my bf's father, who is just a weird sexually fuelled prankster that said to me directly he did it to get free stuff. And a friend of mine who just liked to see under the skirts of the characters and boobs bouncing.
Not that being more comfortable being a girl wouldn't be weird, it is just that he made it pretty clear that he finds it weird and uncomfortable that boys(male) would play girls just to cheat the social system.

Trans stuff never even came up during any conversation, now that I think about it.

>How do you handle voice chat?
Poorly, I guess?
I sound supper femmy, but not female.

>>8263321
is it bdo

>>8263321
>most people
I meant men? Guys? Males? I don't know.
I mean, everyone knows that there are no girls on the internet ever, who'd say in a game, but I meant had-penis-at-birth people.

>>8263321
>who is just a weird sexually fuelled prankster
Sounds repressed trans.

>just liked to see under the skirts of the characters and boobs bouncing.
Could still be trans.

>>8263328
Nah. Unfortunately, I wish my computer could handle it, it looks fun.

>>8263339
I'll be sure to tell him that the next time I go see my bf.
AGPs, I swear.

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I came out to my 5 and 8 year old sons yesterday
I said boy, you have two mommies now.
They always knew, they would try to Brest feed from me when they were babies.
I would let them suckle for a minute, it just felt so natural.
My Dr. Dr. Goldstien said they may have the technology one day to make me lactate.
Can you imagine, breast feeding your child. I've dreamnt of it my whole life. Thanks to science I can finally correct the wrongs nature made. Have the body I was suppose to have.

Child 3 2019 here I come.
That is if Trump doesn't make me illegal.
I hate him

>>8263370
>tech one day to lactate
i can already lactate
also loved your post

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>>8263370

>>8263370
>/pol/ doesn't know we can already lactate

>tfw stopped lactating

>>8263537
gotta drink more milk

>>8263267
>>8263195
>He might be disappointed, he might be neutral, he might be impressed
They don't see mtfs as girls, the absolute vast majority will not accept that an mtf calls herself a girl, most likely he'll see it as an action all the other guys do.

I tend to never talk to people about irl stuff, unless I know they're a girl, and I'll just let them assume I'm a guy. I haven't really ever been offered anything, but I wouldn't accept it, because it creates these weird "I owe you" atmospheres.
If it's NA TERA, then unless it was VM gear, it's really not that expensive.

What happened to red?

>>8264603
>offered
It wasn't really an offer.
It was more like "Oh, I'll have a gift for you tomorrow". To which I said that no, no need. Which of course meant that I was full of gear the next day, wanting it or not. Female privilege is weird.
I don't mind the feeling of owing something, which is real. I like it - he trusted in me and invested in me and it is only fair that I play my best with it and support him and ... Well, this stuff is weird to type.

I only fear
>the absolute vast majority will not accept that an mtf calls herself a girl, most likely he'll see it as an action all the other guys do.
This. Owing him and/or losing the gear is fine. I just don't want to lose a friend, and I don't want to take that kind of blow, not now.

But yes, I think not saying anything is the best choice. If it ever comes to it, well, then it happened.

>I tend to never talk to people about irl stuff,
How? I mean, how do you even talk with people without sharing at least a part of your life and them sharing a part of theirs?

>unless I know they're a girl
Why?

>and I'll just let them assume I'm a guy.
Double why? I could understand if you only did it with girls because then you could talk about girly things and maybe have some non-agressive, not sexually charged empathy. But I don't get the point if she'll see you and treat you as a guy anyway.

>>8264760
>How? I mean, how do you even talk with people without sharing at least a part of your life and them sharing a part of theirs?
I don't really talk with them. A few people, that I played with in a game for a long time ago, I shared a little with.
But generally, all talk was about the game, or about them.

Actually found one girl in that game, who was fun to talk with... But no point going into anything, since she was really young, and czech.

Why?
>Double why? I could understand if you only did it with girls because then you could talk about girly things and maybe have some non-agressive, not sexually charged empathy. But I don't get the point if she'll see you and treat you as a guy anyway.
I don't tell guys about any of it, because I usually don't want to play with guys, I'll like just play with them, but not really create anything out of it.
With girls, which has really only happened once in the last few years, was ok to talk to about the stuff. It's just so much easier and more fun to talk to girls in games, none of that stupid masculinity talk.

>>8264860
>none of that stupid masculinity talk.
What is that? Do they just do it because they're talking to a girl?

What's the talk with girls like instead?

>>8264860
If I'm reading and making wild assumptions correctly, you are lesbian, right?

>I don't really talk with them.
Well, it makes sense now.
I should probably have added that I was going insane from isolation and lack of social contact irl and then jumped into an mmo for the first time in my life in order to have at least some pseudo meaningful social contact, so well.

>>8264916
Talked about most things, like what happens in life, other things.
She sort of tried dating, and so we talked about that. Some work things, school, and just various other things.

With guys it's just boring, "yo bro, I did this and that" or whatever, I don't really remember, but I don't like it. Most guys in games are complete weebs too, which makes conversations even more boring, at least in mmos.
I just think conversation is much freerer when talking with girls. I guess it really depends on the girl, but as long as she isn't like a super drama queen stacey, who's like running around proclaiming to everyone she's a girl, it's good.

>>8264941
Nope, I'm straight.

Yeah, during the time I literally had nobody to talk to, I guess I talked more with people I played games with...

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I apologize because I;m sure this has been asked a million times but I can't see to find an answer here already.

When approaching transsexual girls in a romantic way what are the things that I want to avoid? I'm a straight guy and just don't want to come off as a fetishist.

Obviously everybody is just a person and should be treated as such but I just want to get into the mind set of a new culture.

Also I notice people use the word tranny on this board. What does it mean here exactly?

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>>8265578
Pretend you don't know she's trans.

Pretend you haven't dated trans girls before.

Pretend you don't want to play with her girlclit.

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>>8265578
>When approaching transsexual girls in a romantic way

Just pretend like they are normal girls and do that.
If you talk about their trans-ness then they are going to think you're a chaser.

It's like if you go up to an asian girl and say "i think asian girls are so hot! i'm only attracted to asian girls like you!" she is going to throw her drink in your face and walk away.

tranny can mean transexual or transvestite which is why some people don't like it: it is imprecise. don't use it when speaking with transwomen.

>>8265578
>Also I notice people use the word tranny on this board. What does it mean here exactly?
It's edgyness, I don't like the use of it, and nobody who is full time will like it either... Unless they're the drag queen type of mtf.

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>>8265608
>>8265612
Thanks, /tgg/. The last thing I want to do is be a chaser. I've been in a similar scenario where I was pursued because of my race. Shit sucks.

>>8265713
I didn't used to like it before I came here. I just called myself a trap. But now I just got used to saying tranny and trap is frowned upon.

>>8265608
>>8265612

I love that you're telling him to 'pretend'. Bitch is this an admission that trannies aren't women, but it's ok if a tranny says it?

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>>8265731
>triggered

how should i have phrased it?
transgirls aren't "normal" in any sense of the world.
i asked him to treat them like he would treat a regular girl because he knows how to treat regular girls.
he doesn't know how to treat transgirls.
i'm just telling him to treat them the same.
stop shrieking about "muh feminine brains!"
your body is masculine, at least it was.
deal with it.

>>8265725
Now I want your BBC, anon!

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>>8265765
And here I was was thinking I was being sneaky about it

>>8262682
It sucks. I wish I could tell if I've got a good basis for transitioning or not. Maybe if I start experimenting with makeup it'll become obvious.

>>8265726
>But now I just got used to saying tranny and trap is frowned upon.
What do you mean? They're both "frowned upon". I'm not going to police anybody's choice of words to refer to themselves because that's their deal, but all you've done is upgraded to a worse slur.

>>8265137
Now that you said it like this, yes, I can see this.
Though I was just talking about movies, birthplaces, studies, uni and maybe zodiac signs with this guy, so maybe I just lucked out. Maybe it was because we chat 1:1 where boys don't become pack animals. Maybe asians are just weird. Maybe he's mistaking the way I write with flirtyness and he's just struggling to handle it and I'm leading him on. Hmm. No doubt it would be substantially different if I presented male.

And I do miss having a girl friend to talk with about stuff, even more so now that you said it.

>>8265726
Isn't trap, like, another thing entirely? More along the lines of "femboy who cds"?
The very nature of the word implies that you are male, though presents yourself in a feminine enough manner to confuse people.

I don't even see it as a slur, just... A different thing.

>>8265713

It's just self deprecation among me and my trans friends, not really being edgy. I mean obviously any mtf just wants to be seen as a girl and not trans or any variation, but among friends who know it's kind of whatever you don't really have anything to hide.

Shameless bump

>>8268177
I don't like it anyway... It's like black people saying "nigga", it's just stupid.

>>8271472
Is every /tgg/ created by the same person?

>>8271485
I've made a few ones, but usually I think it's the same person.

>>8265578
>Also I notice people use the word tranny on this board. What does it mean here exactly?
Just banter. We throw around words like 'fags' and 'dykes' too.

Tbh I find it somewhat innocent and endearing when used by other trannies.

>>8271841
>tfw closeted
>tfw will accidentally say it irl and look like a bigot

>>8271874
This is why I never use that word, even here. Just don't want to internalize it as something normal. At the end of the day, it's still very much a slur.

>>8271899
I'm too far gone for that strategy to work.

>At the end of the day, it's still very much a slur.
Ehhh, blacks and nigger, lesbians and dyke, channers and -fag.

>>8272046
>Ehhh [says more slurs]
what did you mean by this

>>8272624
Other groups who use "slurs" very much not as slurs.

Does anyone else want to transition but finds themselves terrified of society's reaction? I live in the bible belt and I feel like I'm wasting my life by not getting on HRT

>>8272749
If you're honestly that afraid just get on an anti androgen until you stop giving a shit

>>8272749
Yeah, if I lived in a magical world without sexism or transphobia I'd be gobbling down the hormones. Instead, I'm indefinitely closeted I guess.

>>8272771
What does anti androgen do?

>>8271485
i have made at least 13 of them

Does anyone have that screencap of that thread on /lgbt/ where some guy tries to compliment a trans girl by saying she looks like his favourite porn star Natalie Mars and then spergs out and can't understand why she stopped talking to him?

>tfw you get in the shower look down and nearly start crying

>>8277278
Shower with the lights off Nikki.

>tfw ~31" underbust and 32.5" bust size at 5 months of 2 mg estrogen
does this mean I'll have big boobies or am I just going to peeter out? is this proof that gradually increasing your estrogen dose gives you better outcome than just going straight into the dose that gives you the proper levels?

>>8277331
>Nikki
wut?

>>8277412
i have no idea how big your boobs will get but they keep growing for at least like 6 years. ive heard that thing about ramping up before and it makes sense and its probably the standard medical practice for a reason but ive not actually looked into data or evidence whatever to support that.

>>8277412
According to your logic i'll get mega milks.
T.1 month, 32.7" underbust, 35.8" bust
Tl:Dr highly unlikely.

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let me greentext you a story that happened today

>be me, in perpetual boymode closet
>at work at a restaurant
>the honnest of old hons walks in for to-go order
>my female coworker friend sees and instantly darts the other way "im sorry I cant. I cant."
>she then says to me "please dont be mad, I would help YOU if you came in like that"
>she walks away
>she knows
>not sure even how to feel about what just happened

so she knows... I want to talk to her about it but I couldnt bring myself to do it. I just feel too embarrassed desu
not sure how I ever plan to come out to everyone if I cant tell a friend who already knows.

>>8278659
take your hormones in front of her

General app tips: try YouCamMakeup for a pretty damn accurate simulation of what you'd look like with makeup, including tutorials to get that look (no joke). All of this is live post-editing of your camera feed, though you can edit photos too. FaceApp (takes a few tries) can give you a great hairstyle and a light shave for those of you that need it. Export the collage photo (currently gender swap is only available in Collage mode) and throw it into Superimpose Studio (another free app) to place this over your original photo (edge fading helps to make it look natural). Mess with this in YouCamMakeup if you like.

FaceCam's on Android and IOS both. The others are IOS only I believe.

>>8278711
>blatant advertising
fuck off

>>8278712
Not at all. Hell, I "advertise" about five different apps from different developers and each of these is free (I honestly don't think you need to pay for the "Pro" version of ANY of these). I'm trans-questioning, using different features from each app together helped to scratch an itch I thought others might have. Just trying to help.

>>8278659
Unless it was her dad... Why did she react like that?

>tfw no vagina

I'll just put it here

Basically, I've known that I'm trans for...I don't know, a long time I guess. I'm kind a reall shitty situation where I can't get hormones, but hopefully soon (tm)

However, recently , a friend of mine came out to me. He was totally confortable having a dick and a beard but he suddenly decided to get on hormones. He did and now he's bragging about it, telling me I'm ugly and that I should kill myself. He obtained a superiority complex. He's also telling my other friends that he's feeling dysphoric and that he wants to kill himself.

You might wonder why do I keep calling him a he. Well, I lost all my respect for him, but he doesn't know.

Honestly, I don't really know what to do. I feel so unconfortable around him and bragging about the fact that he's got hormones earlier then me and the fact I can't because I'm a shit situation doesn't help.

>>8279197
Why would you even talk to this person, ever?

>>8279248
I don't know, I just don't want to lose my other friends.

Like I'm not even that suicidal or depressed or whatever. I'm not confortable in my body or I may not have hormones yet, but atleast I can through life without thinking "its not gunna work". I'm aware I may not pass, but nothing holds me back.

But he makes me feel...like shit. Like absolute garbage and I fucking hate these people who transition like that.

>>8279197
>>8279258
get rid of your asshole 'friend' and stop misgendering her like an asshole

ez

>>8279333

>doesn't care about his primary sexual characteristic
>has a beard

Doesn't seem like he's trans to me, I'd misgender him too.

>>8279415
Do you misgender cis women who don't put on enough makeup too?

Rhetorical question.

>>8279475

No because they are cis women, I would misgender somebody who is obviously being """"trans"""" for attention. This isn't tumblr.

>>8279980
>cis people get their identities, trans people's identities are subject to me liking them

>>8280022

Yeah, again, if you're not actually trans I'm not going to humor you.

>>8280028
Who died and made you WPATH?

>>8280033
I'm not sure what's so hard for you to understand? Gender dysphoria is an actual condition that I have and I'd rather people not make light of it for attention.

>>8280041
i feel you senpai

>>8280041
>Gender dysphoria is an actual condition that I have
[citation needed]

>>8281406
My apologies that I don't think people who aren't really bothered by having male sexual characteristics are actually trans.

>>8280041
>>8281557
>Gender dysphoria
Not what was said.
>aren't really bothered
Not what was said.

Two strawmen in as many posts. Impressive dishonesty.

>>8281593
what are you even talking about?

>>8281605
I could ask you the same question since none of your posts make any sense as replies to the posts you quote.

>>8281625
i am not them, i am a 3rd person watching this
you don't make sense

>>8281629
inb4 screencap to prove it with the (You)s

>tfw gf buying me kitty today
>tfw will probably get consensually beaten today too

Life is good friendos

>>8281637
i don't feel the need to prove it
and even if i did
>nice mspaint blehblehblehbeleh

>>8281593
> He was totally confortable having a dick and a beard but he suddenly decided to get on hormones

Sorry that I'm not going to invalidate myself by accepting people as "trans" just because they say they are. There's really not much else that needs to be said here except for you to go back to tumblr where mental illness is something you want to have.

>>8281684
seems like a lot of people think being trans is a lifestyle choice and think it is all fun and stuff
i feel you

>>8281684
>totally confortable having a dick
Not what was said.

Dishonesty to post ratio still 1:1.

>>8281701
>quoted word for word the post this started on

Ok

>>8281754
>>8279415
Learn to follow conversations.

>>8279197
Ditch him, don't waste time on an asshole like that.

how do I find a chaser gf?

>>8280041
>if other people's dysphoria doesn't match mine 100% they are faking!
what did anon mean by this

>>8283408
>if somebody doesn't display the symptoms of dysphoria they are faking

Hmmm

>>8283418
>my opinion defines dysphoria
Really makes you think.

>>8283418
So if a trans woman has ever had a beard before it means she's not dysphoric? Fucking ridiculous that this whole conversation is based off anon telling us that she wasn't dysphoric about her facial hair or genitals in the past. How on earth could anon know that?

There are more symptoms than just genitals and facial hair, and it comes in varying degrees.

>>8283423

1.
Cross-gender identification (1)
2.
Desire to live as a member of the other sex (2)
3.
Sense of inappropriateness in the gender role belonging
to one’s natal sex (2)
4.
Discomfort about one’s assigned sex (2)
5.
Desire to have sex characteristics of the other sex (3)
6.
Discomfort about one’s anatomic sex (3)
7.
Wish to get rid of one’s natal sex characteristics (3)

>>8283432
And why are you assuming anon's asshole friend doesn't experience 100% of this list?

>>8283432
Looks like >>8280041 and >>8283418 are well and truly BTFO.

>>8279197
Does your friend still have a beard?

I know personally I used to have a beard (because I was too depressed to shave it) and have this faux confidence about sex (pretending I was comfortable with my dick), but all the while I was fighting with coming to terms with being trans. It took me a long time to accept it and I'm still super uncomfortable about it. Your friend being a dick is inexcusable, but maybe they're being a dick because they're jealous that you are confident enough to accept that you're trans. Maybe I'm projecting idk.

>>8283578
On a side note. Whenever I'm not working/distracted, mostly working though. I feel like absolute shit. I don't really know how to describe it, but I hate my current situation even though I have a consistent and good job, friends, and a community that supports me. I'm early in my transition and I don't want to be a bother to anyone I know. I've only told my best friends that I'm trans and I feel like only some of them have accepted me. Which makes it worse because I feel like some of my trans friends are the ones not accepting me. I feel like they want me to prove that I'm trans, but One I'm not really comfortable with being trans myself, and two I have a very hard time expressing myself emotionally to others. That's why >>8279197
this post really got to me because I feel like that is what some of my friends think of me. When I'm left to wonder or think about something other than the tasks at hand I usually have a desire to kill myself, and I have to make a conscious decision to not do something to kill myself. I don't want to kill myself, but I have this urge to do so. I just want to be like my sisters and have a good life where my family likes me for who I am, but they all seem to hate me or just accept me because I am their child/grandkid/cousin/whatever. I just want to be able to go out with someone as a girl, and be treated like a girl. I just want to be able to potentially start a family. I want to be able to not wake up every morning realizing that I'm not a girl. I hate how crushing that daily realization is. First thing in the morning and it's already at a bad start. I hate being sired all the time. I hate people calling me man, dude, sir, or whatever else male gendered pronoun or whatever, but I don't want to say hey don't gender me male. I don't want people to hate me or think I'm a disgusting pervert. Why can't I have the confidence to express this? I just hate being trapped within myself. I can't find a way out.

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