/tgg/ Trans Girl General

When OP forgets title :smirk:

>>8286166
yes...

>Tfw you wake up cis
It hurts so much.
How do I stop being jealous, envious and resentful of cis women because they're cis and I will always be a tranny?

>>8286282
love and solidarity?

>>8286282
>>Tfw you wake up cis
idktf

>>8286307
it is a dream
every night i wish for this

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>>8286160
>>8286282

Some part of me still feels like this has all been just some dream and one day I'll wake up and I'll be myself. But I don't like the idea of solipsism, so I guess this is the life I was dealt and I have to do the things necessary to become a crude approximation of myself.

Speaking of which:
>Trying to learn to style my hair
>I feel like a clumsy idiot
>envy girls who are trained from a very young age to do these sorts of things to the point it becomes muscle-memory

I feel like an adult who never learned to tie shoelaces. When I ask my mother, sister, or female friends how to do something as simple as braiding, they act like it's a no-brainer. Yes, I understand the concept, but it's like I can't get my hands to do the thing right.

>>8286343
i feel these feels

>>8286343
give me your tips on styling hair

I'm 6'1 with a 22.75 inch head circumference and a 21.5cm face length.

I have a large forehead but my face is still pretty long.

Please do not sugarcoat things, is this not workable? I do not feel as though I look normal even for a man.

>>8287037
post face?....

>>8287111
https://unsee.cc
/niputeza/

>>8286160
>tfw your midface length is the only thing keeping you from looking weird
Can people actually clock from midface length?

>>8287165
looks fine, proportionate.

>>8287211
Please don't say that just to make me feel better. Do you really mean that?

>>8287217
you are totally able to pass
your face has a great starting point
already looks feminine
put in some effort, get on hrt and you will be great

>>8287245
Thank you anon, I think you're making me cry.

I'm already on HRT, but you've made me feel a lot better.

>>8287251
yea, like from that pic if i would of known nothing else i would of assumed female
i know it sounds like i am mega fucking hugboxing right now
but seriously

>>8287275
Well I'm never gendered female in public but hopefully it'll start soon..

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>>8286788

You mean the tips that have been given to me? Oh, just tutorials found on Pinterest, Youtube, and a few cheap books. Even with step-by-step pictures, it's like I can't do the rudimentary things they do so easily that they consider unworthy of comment.

Again, this is because the vast majority of girls are trained from a very young age to do these things. From a time before they can even speak, they are being dolled-up in some way or another, as little girls they play dress-up with sisters or friends, and as teens it is popular to experiment with styling tools and colors and whatnot. I won't pretend this is the case for all girls, but most females, whether they like it or not, are exposed to these things and have at least some foundation.

Being a twenty-something and trying to do this, I feel like a total derp.

>>8286160
Tfw woke up to gf researching FFS for you

>>8287638
When I wanted to learn more about styling hair I went to get a haircut in a place for women. I told them I wanted long hair and asked them for tips on what conditioner to use and how to style my hair.

>>8287638
I know this feel..

Apparently I might be "dust allergic", or rather, allergic to the little creatures living on dust. That sucks, I'm so bad at cleaning... Also, I manage to make my eyes inflames all the time, it's so fucking annoying.

Hows you'r weekend been?

>>8286160
CAN'TWAKEUP.png

>>8287700
>tfw your gf is going to take you to Spain for ffs then to Italy for shopping

>>8288768
>tfw other people have loving relationships and i haven't had a irl friend in 7 years

>>8288773
if it helps I didnt have any friends for 10+ year until last year, and I met them through 4chan.

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>>8288773

>tfw I managed to make a co-worker friendbut they are female and I'm still male at work. I would like to go out and do (platonic) things with them, but unless I explicitly come out to them, it may seem like a romantic advance.

>>8288768
>tfw live in Italy and it's one of the worst places in the world for trans people

>>8288768
Is your gf paying for it?

would a laser hair removal place do around your butthole?

>>8292627
Pretty sure no, especially because your skin is darker there.
Just epilate.

>>8292714
fuckkkkkk

>>8292714
would they do on top of the butt though?

>>8288889
Just tell them.

"Hey, you know how some people have weird hangups about men and women being friends? What do you think of that?"

"Hey, um, I know some people have weird hangups about men and women being friends, so it feels awkward to ask this. Like, I want to hang out with you, as friends, but I'm not sure how to ask this without seeming like I might have an agenda? I just really like you as a person. You are [example of why you like her]. I'd really like to go grab lunch next week and talk about [thing you both like]?"

Something like that.

>>8292879
The first one sounds awkward, and she'd probably just think you actually meant the opposite.

>>8288889
Do you appear to be gay, to others, even if you're not flamboyant?

What kind of things?... You could just ask her if she wants to do "X" some time.

>>8292872
If they do body lasering, then probably, yeah.

>>8293061
That's... good to know. The only problem is that I feel too embarassed to do it.

>>8293197
i am thinking i am just gonna have to use that magic shaving powder stuff to make all the hair fall out
only way to get smooth without epilating and ruining your skin

>>8293347
Most likely that will burn your skin, and maybe cause skin damage...

Just epilate.

>>8293631
the magic powder is used instead of nair because it is easy on your sensitive areas
epilating always gives me ingrowns even if i exfoliate

>>8293347
>>8294728
There's magic powder? I bought cream the other day for the first time, but I've been too lazy to use it yet. It didn't even come with a scraper.

>>8295234
it was called magic shaving powder
someone in a discord showed it to me, you can get it off the internet
said it was very gentle on sensitive skin, like your crotch
looked good

why did god make shaving your own butthole so difficult

>>8296373
He's an asshole.

>>8293347
>>8294728
>>8295512
Keep us updated about how it goes, please

>>8295512
Where can you get it? Is it literally called magic shaving powder?

>>8293347
>>8294728
>>8295512
Is this better than waxing? Also, I thought Magic Powder was just for black guys.

>>8295622
I guess facialteam, they're quite highly praised, even though they aren't super aggressive.

>>8296428
yes it is, the thing i seen linked it on amazon
>>8296429
i am not sure if it is better, but from the pictures, the person just put it on, then let it sit 10 minutes, then wiped all their hair off
and the example area was their butt crack and crotch
they said if there are any stray hairs remaining you can just give them a little pull and they just come out no problem

Hello, I have an odd question. I was wondering if I am able to smoke cigars on occasion while on hrt?

>>8297702
i should also mentioned the powder is meant to be mixed with water, may seem like it is a dry thing with it being a powder

>>8297711
i don't see why not

>>8296429
the person in the example was white

>>8290952
Yes

>>8298299
Gratz! That sounds amazing.

I really hope I can find a caretaker bf...

>tfw you are so broken you don't know what to do with yourself so you become a internet enabled vegetable

>>8298990
I'm suffering the same. I'm so tired all the time too.

>>8287295
Watch a few makeup tutorials on contouring and you'll be able to pass like a mother fucker. You look good anon, you really do

how do you clean your butt out

>>8297702
>>8297714
Do you have the amazon link?

What's the easiest way to remove eyeliner? I bought some and it arrived in the mail today. Was planning on using it practice makeup in my room at night.

>>8301583
lots of different kinds
https://www.amazon.com/magic-shaving-powder/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Amagic%20shaving%20powder
also here is a useful guide i found
https://www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/36rwkt/how_to_a_guide_to_safely_and_correctly_use_magic/

>>8301542
enema things you can buy at the store
or you can use a cheap plastic water bottle, like a nestle water bottle, then just press tightly against your butt and squeeze
keep doing this till the water comes out clear

>>8301819
>or you can use a cheap plastic water bottle
Is that safe? Seems like it would be uncomfortable.

I was looking at enemas on ebay but I feel a bit weird about permanently owning a poopy item. I feel a bit weird about the process as a whole, but I wanna try more buttstuff without feeling dirty.

>>8301622
eye makeup remover. A lot of mascara and eyeliner is water resistant, so you'll need the makeup remover to be able to remove it.

>>8302086
i have done the water bottle thing a few times
it just pushes water in, same as the enema kits
i never got hurt

>>8302086
>>8303388
Buy one of those little "bulb" ones.
You don't want to push in much water at all... If you need to do it multiple times it's probably not gonna be clean anyway.

I think it flushes out a lot of "mucus" and stuff, so it's not a good thing to do too often.

>>8303405
>If you need to do it multiple times it's probably not gonna be clean anyway
i thought you were supposed to do it a few times...

>>8303410
Yeah, but if it's like going and going, there's probably stuff in there that needs to be properly ejected...

pre-hrt getting a haircut in like half an hour, have an undercut with a large bang and an inch on the side which i always get shaved to 1/4th. really masculine look but i want to go for something more androgynous. i look masculine as fuck though and i'm grad'ing from hs (18) so i don't want to look like shit in my photos. what do

>>8296373
it's really not tho

>>8303442
good point

bump before bed, don't want to wake up to dead general.

>girl starts flirting with me on the internet
>she's perf
>doesn't know I'm trans
>its gotten to the point of sending pics
>not confident about my face because I'm only a few months into hormones
how do you tell someone you're trans? I've never had to deal with this help I dont wanna mess it up

>>8305624
Explain to her that she's a pseudofeminist.

>>8305640
wake n bake sorry, read terf

>>8305624
it might help if you told us whether you're identifying with her as a male or female

>>8305624
Never get flirty with people!
I don't think theres' anyway to save this...

>>8305640
>wanting to face the narcissistic rage of a psfem

>2017
>STILL no procedures to alter height
I fucking hate living in this shitty caveman era.

>>8307224
>there will be people in the future who can choose their synthetic android body and never age

>>8307248
if it isn't organic then why bother
people should be working on mutation science instead of robo bodies
a robo body is still fake
a mutated body is real and perfect

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>>8308390
>mutated
>perfect

wew lad

So boobs are the best thing in the world right?

Sex used to be boring when I was all dudely, but now my BF can paralyze me (in a good way) with just a few rubs of my boobies

>>8308433
if it is scientifically mutated then yea, it can be pretty much perfect

>>8308509
That sounds pretty nice, anon.

>>8308509
>tfw you will never have a bf or any kind of loving relationship

>>8308509
>can paralyze me (in a good way)
I'm glad you added that bracketed bit anon, I thought you were talking about having seizures or something!

>>8306997
>>8305640
>>8307129
update: it turns out she's ok with it and I was worried over nothing.

>>8310161
that's great news anon, happy for you

>Took my 3 month shot of lupron
>Came some blood with it
>Lungs and throat tickle now when I breath deeply
>Increased heart rate
This is scary... I think I'll stay up a few more hours, and keep my phone at hand...

>>8286160
I'd like to know if anyone experienced any further feminisation of the face after 1 year HRT?

I'm about 9 months in and have always in the female ranges (had consistent blood tests to ensure), however during the first 6 months I barely noticed any feminisation of my face. During the 6-8th months my face feminised very quickly but I feel like I can't tell if it is still improving or if this is basically as good as it gets. Any experiences would be helpful.

>>8311202
Hope youre okay anon

>>8311248
I think it'll be ok, it's just worrisome.

>>8311220
Yeah. What HRT does to the face is mostly fat redistribution and some skin softening, so changes should occur until 18-24 months out

>>8311202
there was blood already in it?
why?
i would never trust that

>>8286160
is it morally reprehensible to hire a trans escort?

>>8313106
they are offering a service for money
if you don't do it, someone else is
it would be mean to be mean to them during it though
like if you treat them nicely, i don't see anything wrong with it

>>8313169
do I come off as an anon who would treat them mean? I mean I asked the question in the first place. But I know they like manly men, like fitting to a rigid stereotype. I don't know if there is time for her to discover that, kek.

>>8311424
Thanks for replying. What about muscle changes? I feel I have a lot of muscle around my jaw and I'm wondering if that is likely to shrink.

>tfw no one will ever love me
>late transitioning transbian
>hook up with busted escorts and crackhead trannies out of loneliness
>depressed because all I deserve are scraps
>gave a mentally ill homeless tranny a few seconds of head at a park
>throat feels slightly sore and scratchy since then

Waiting for the right time to an hero because my life is over

>>8313488
fuck...
the doing lewd with random people is probably a bad idea...even if lonely
i am still a virgin but at least i don't got a stf

>>8313535
std***

>>8313535

I didn't give a fuck in the moment. It wasn't until afterwards that I came to realize my value and worth. It's too late now anyway. I won't feel at home in my body ever again. I won't even get to enjoy my late transition

>>8313553
maybe you are ok?
go get tested, then if you are ok, don't do that again

>>8313568

I don't have money to pay for testing. I could look for free testing, but I'm too ashamed. I'm scared to know that my life is over for sure and I'll have no choice but to kill myself. It was literally the first date anyone ever took me on. I'm approaching 30 and haven't had a relationship since I was a teenager

>>8313600
i feel you...
i think you really should get tested though
it may be embarrassing but you need to know
unless you are totally sure killing yourself is the best idea

I feel like I could have stayed as a normal boy and not need to transition if only I had friends as a kid and didn't get bullied or ostracized while at school. But loneliness and depression broke me to the point where I decided to transition because I gave up on myself and my future life. Everything seems bleak and hell.

>>8313600
if all you did was give head you have 0 chances of getting aids. unless your mouth was bleeding

>>8312939
Not in it, but when I pulled out there came some blood out, much more than the usual tiny little droplet.

Anyway, I survived the night.

>>8314856
oh

>>8314856
>Anyway, I survived the night.
How are you feeling now?

>>8315079
Fine, I did feel slight effects even 5 hours after, but I think they may as well have been because I hadn't slept for like 27 hours.

Really hope that the dose didn't lower or something, because I only take these once every 3 months.

Where do people get their waist training corsets? Any recommendations?

>>8315204
I just bought mine in some shitty online shop. Make sure they're latex, "steel boned" (it's like flattened springs... plastic will break). They're supposed to be soft, don't buy one of those victorian stale corsets.

Is it considered chasing if you want a genuine relationship but are still seeking out transgirls because you're sexually attracted to them?

I often fantasize about such a relationship but can't bring myself to do it because I'm essentially fetishizing. Plus I wouldn't even know where to look.
T. Ignorant Bi Cis man

>>8315428
Yeah, probably.

does having foreskin help at all with srs?

>>8318516
Ask >>>/lgbt/srsgen

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Anyone else up for 30 day squat challenge?

Started with
>15min jogging/walking
>20 quats

I might do 30 squats a bit later, to follow the harsher version of it.

>>8318751
why do this?

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>>8318763
Get in shape, and build butt.

This one is a bit more intensive, so I think I'm gonna do this one instead. Over 2 "reps" a day.

Can you imagine living a life like this? :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEsQtk2JzQ4

>>8320399
i don't want to be like that

>>8320486
Why would you not want to be a ditzy teenager?

>>8320502
i don't wanna be a ditz

>>8320514
I have some bad news anon

Is it weird for a white girl to go by a Japanese name?

>>8321508
If it's an online handle no, just super weeby.

As a real name? Hell yes, absolute cringe.

>>8320399
Rich white cishet women are the most boring and vapid people on the planet.

>18
>out to parents and close friends, though about to move cross country for college, rooming with a cool gnc dude
>gender fluid but primarily lean female most of time
good time to start hrt? or am I fucked already after puberty

>>8322723
What's even stopping you?

Why would you think it wouldn't be worth doing at 18? It would still help at any age, even if not much in the worst cases. At 18 you'll see substantial improvements.

>>8322764
>What's even stopping you?
fear of looking like a freak through university and needing expensive surgeries
fear of regretting it

>>8320794
no!
i am not like that!

Final gender therapist appointment before endo and titty skittles prescription today. Pls wish me luck

>>8323212
good luck anon
i'm sure it is all gonna work out fine
you're gonna have the skittles in your hand in no time

>>8322298
But she's trans, and might not be that rich, eating fro-yo or whatever at 7-11 isn't exactly expensive.

>>8323426
>she trans
Oh fuck, really? Couldn't tell at all. That gives me hope.

>>8323451
She started at like 12, so... Kind of a different situation.
She's what happens when you have pretty genetics, and start early... Though, I don't know if she's getting estrogen yet.

>>8323500
>started at 12
>I don't know if she's getting estrogen yet.
what?

>>8323780
Puberty blockers, she never started her male puberty.

>>8323958
doesn't not having hormones fuck your bones up?

>>8324000
Maybe, but better than entering male puberty.
Society still won't let go of us, as their torture piece, so we don't get to start estrogen early yet.

>>8324022
>tfw started hrt at 21 because mother made me ashamed and repressed me from the age of 6

>>8324044
How did she do that so early?

>>8324122
all of these dubs, holy shit
she noticed i was behaving femininely and wanting to wear pretty things like bracelets and have my nails painted and stuff and she was a jehovas witness
so she sat me down and told me about how evil gay people were and how that was wrong and i can't be like that, she made incredibly scared of being gay because then everyone would reject me and hate me
also she beat me a lot and i didn't want more of that, i started living in denial and made excuses for all of my feelings to myself
also it helped that at school everyone made fun of girlyness and gayness all the time like normal kids do, and i joined in
i became very scared of acting feminine at all or having anything remotely girly or pink or thinking about boys or anything and basically twisted my thoughts into thinking i was attracted to girls even though those feelings were not attraction at all and tried to act as tough and masculine as possible
eventually i had a break down and dropped all of this

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>>8324170
Wasn't at all as severe for me... My mom would just discourage me ("Do you really think you look good in those clothes?" "You don't, you look horrible" "I don't want to see you dress like this ever again"), because nurses had told her to do that.
Results in complete loss of trust in parents, and really everyone else. Messed up for life, both psychologically, and physically.

>The dubs
I didn't even realize.

>>8324022
>persecution complex intensifies

>>8324306
>"Tranny jokes" in virtually every comedy
>"Puke jokes" as soon as a "tranny" appears
>Feminism literally saying transsexuals must be eliminated
>In the US treatment for transsexualism isn't covered
>In "well developed" countries, health care hasn't really moved forward since 50 years ago
>60 years ago trans kids were started being treated
>We've only went backwards in medical treatment for trans people over the last 60 years
It's not a persecution complex when it's actually true, you stupid shit.

>>8324270
>Your bones
>Puberty
>Their torture
>Made me

pottery also

>>8324270
>because nurses had told her to do that.
Which nurses? Where the hell did they get an idea like that?

>>8324572
Go back to /pol/, immature kid.

>>8324579
Maternity nurse or something, it's like nurses where mothers go if they need help, or advice about their very young children.

>>8324598
Six seems late for maternity nurses. But I have no idea.

But their advice severely screwed you over and was doubtless totally unfounded and harmful for every child it's used on, trans or not.

How long did she keep treating you that way?

How has the psychological harm and loss of trust affected you?

>>8324702
It was before six, at 5 was like the last time I did anything.

Don't have trust, pretty much saw families as just people that lived together. Couldn't talk with anyone, and today I mostly keep quiet still, and if I'm going through something hard (even if it's about physical weakness etc), I prefer to be alone, rather than have anybody around if I feel vulnerable.
AvPD, but not quite PPD.

At least my mom supports me now... Can't be easy with severely religious parents.

fucking FUCK body hair
fuck it is so disgusting and epilating just fucks my skin up and i get ingrowns everywhere even if i exfoliate and then it all just grows back in like a week or two
fuck fuck fuck

>>8324754
When did she finally stop using tactics like that on you?

How come those things she said when you acted feminine affected your general outlook towards her and others?

>>8321508
It's certainly not common but I think it also depends on the name it is. There might be some that people wouldn't instantly recognise as Japanese, I dunno.

>>8325493
I don't know, I stopped trying. Sister bullied me about "feminine habits" though, for some years after.

>How come those things she said when you acted feminine affected your general outlook towards her and others?
Have to hide what I do and feel, and so on. You probably know it yourself, I think there's even like, a "described situation", when a child can't trust their "guardian".

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>mfw I just discovered my insurance covers a trach shave
I'M SO FUCKING HAPPY HOLY SHIT

I'LL BE RID OF THIS FUCKING DISGUSTING TUMOR ONCE AND FOR ALL

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Has anyone overcome depression yet?

>>8328015
I've been severely depressed since like 12 and honestly can't imagine life without depression. So no, not me.

>>8328104
I've been depressed since I was 10. I win (but I really don't).

>>8328166
Don't feel like the winner of losers. I'm depressed since age 9

>feel like I look great, like more passable than I've ever looked
>go out to run one errand
>get misgendered by the cashier
at what fucking point will I ever be good enough? I've been gendered correctly in rural ohio when not even presenting feminine, so I know I'm not utterly hopeless, but how do u cope knowing that you'll always be a man to most ppl?

>>8288768
What are you, rich?

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>>8328245
9!? That's impossible, nobody has ever been able to be depressed so early!

On a side note, how have you been managing and how old are you now?

>coworkers playing with faceapp
>take picture of me
>nothing changes with the girl filter but the boy filter turns me into a completely different person

I've been on hrt for three months, really makes you think

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Where is she now?

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Help, my mtf gf wants to get SRS, but I kind of don't want her to. I love her, and I want her to be happy, but I think it'd be a mistake. From what I've read it brings a lot of problems, regrets and maintenance. I also like her the way she is now. When I've tried to express this she just says things like "well not to be rude but I'm not going to take that much into consideration because it's my body". I also know we might not last forever, so she doesn't have to cater to me.

Any advice?

>>8329733
>Help, my mtf gf wants to get SRS, but I kind of don't want her to
Stopped reading there.

My advice is break up with her ASAP so she can find a partner who isn't a controlling asshole.

>>8329740
Just because I'm not in favor of the idea doesn't mean I'm going to force my way onto her. Why can't I be attracted to her as she is?

Hormones are turning me gay, I didn't like boys but now I want to fuck a qt femboy, what do

>>8329745
Who cares what you're attracted to? That doesn't come into the equation at all. You sound like a chaser scared that your gf isn't going to be some exotic fetish for you anymore once she loses her dick.

She's going to be much happier after SRS, and also much happier once you stop holding her back.

>>8329733
Are you male, mtf or cisgirl?

>>8329764
That's a rather nasty assumption to make, and one based off nothing since you don't know me at all. I will still love her regardless of her decision. I even mentioned that. Also attraction plays a huge part in relationships, it's fucking stupid to believe otherwise.

>>8329777
I'm male.

>>8329764
>She's going to be much happier after SRS,
Except anon was quite correct about pain, regret and complications.

>>8329803
>>8329764
What >>8329810 said...
Tell your gf to really put in time on research, not just an hour, but many many hours, like 1 hour a day for a month. Tell her that advice comes from other mtfs, too.

Some surgeons won't place the vagina at the right place, so it'll look very unnatural with a vagina placed so far away from it's real placement. Some get results that look absolutely horrible, instead of a labia, it just looks like dry skin. Many can get necrosis on the new clit... while talking about the clit, that can end up being up to 3x as large as a normal clit, maybe more.
Lastly, some end up stuck with 2-3" depth, which means they can't even use it for sex.

The right surgeon can decrease the chances, and maybe almost eliminate it, but which surgeon to go to has to be heavily researched. There's no point in going for the more budget friendly option here, or the more convenient, because you can't fix it once it's botched.

Especially if she's an early transitioner, they haven't had to deal with as much, and may have a more naive and optimistic mind set about transition... Which can lead to bad decisions. It's much better to talk to people who've at least had surgery before, because anyone who's had surgery before will tell her it's not a walk in the park.

>>8329803
It's not a baseless assumption. I'm basing it off the fact that you are angry that your gf wants to get SRS because you're attracted to her dick.

If that's not accurate, it's not my fault you're misrepresenting yourself.

>>8329874
Thank you for some real advice anon. I'll definitely push research and first hand accounts, I think that would be the best way of getting to her.

She is an early transitioner, which makes me happy that you mention it because maybe she'll lose the optimism. I didn't know that was common. One thing however is she could probably afford the high reputation surgeons if she wanted to, so I guess if she won't budge I'll just make sure to emphasize this as an important aspect.

>>8329902
Yea it's true I used that pic, which would indicate anger, but it's more or less just worry and discontent. However you never finished reading my first post anyway.

>>8329930
I'm not trying to tell you that she shouldn't have SRS, some results are good. If she wants SRS you shouldn't convince her otherwise, but she needs to make a very informed decision.

I mean, 8 years ago, I was very much like "why would somebody not want SRS????". But then I read more and more about it, saw more results, and now I'm pretty much against it, for myself. If anything, maybe if I went to supron (he's only good at small ones btw!), but I believe the queue is about 1 year, and I can't afford it anyway.

>>8329986
You're right, I am just a little biased. If she does it I want it to be something that's comfortable and of quality for her. I think things will turn out okay.

>>8329930
>but it's more or less just worry and discontent
I'd believe that if your original post had said something like "Hey my gf wants SRS and I'm worried, what are some good resources/how do we find a good doctor?". But posting an angry reaction image and saying you don't want her to get it and continually talking about your attraction to her makes it pretty obvious that you've got ulterior selfish motives.

Even your post now, the language you're using is all geared towards manipulating her into doing what you want, despite you saying that its her decision and you won't force your way onto her
>I'll definitely push
>best way of getting to her
>makes me happy that you mention it because maybe she'll lose the optimism
>if she won't budge

>>8329930
Two posters changed their minds about getting SRS after seeing pictures in that thread >>8289235

>>8330084
To force my way would to offer an ultimatum, to tell her to do it for my sake, make her feel guilty about it. I have two honest concerns. One being her health, the other being I prefer her as she is. I have not kept that a secret. I really don't understand what your fucking problem is.

Call it manipulation if you want, but I'll call it convincing. I don't want her to end up with a massive regret of pain and inconveniences. I believe not doing it has the highest probability of happiness for the both of us.

If you don't think I'd honestly accept her decision, and still care for her, well then I don't give a shit because you're wrong.

>>8330090
Well fuck, I should have just asked my question over there. I hardly visit /lgbt/, so I wasn't aware that SRS had it's own generals. My bad. Unfortunately I have to go, so maybe next time.

>>8329986
>If she wants SRS you shouldn't convince her otherwise, but she needs to make a very informed decision.
Him giving her the reasons not to is making it a more informed decision.

God, exercise is so exhausting... But it's pretty nice to get outside of the apartment, breath fresh air, see some light, and scenery.

>>8330143
>the other being I prefer her as she is
You do know that makes you a chaser, right? And an asshole? Like, you keep getting sanctimonious and whining about how I'm judging you but you're explicitly saying that you're against your gf getting a life-changing operation that could help reduce her dysphoria and make her happier because her having a dick gets you hard.

You don't really have any moral highground here.

>>8330164
Not if he's going into it with the express intent of trying to convince her not to do it. An "informed decision" involves seeing all the pros and cons and weighing them up, not having your bf try to scare you out of it.

>>8330282
i really hate summer and heat and insects
i am not going out until the snow comes back

Is there any formula I can follow to better my chances as a trans girl to get a monogamous, long term relationship (gay or not)?

I avoid sex a lot because I don't want to be a slut even though I easily could be, but it doesn't seem to change anything.

How do I get love instead of being a fetish?

>>8330282
Sounds nice, anon.

>>8330299
I wish I lived where there was snow. I can't handle summer either.

>>8330143
you should kill yourself

>>8330287
Give her some agency ffs. She can see the pros and cons and make her own decision regardless of her boyfriend's aim.

>>8330301
i wish i knew
>tfw virgin forever

>>8330317
>Give her some agency ffs
That's what I'm telling him, you goose.

>>8330299
I run at like, 3-6 am, sometime between those times, so it's pretty cool outside.

Sun is already up at 3am too, only goes down like a couple of hours a day.

>>8330143
You should take your bias completely out of the equation.
As you said, you may not be together forever, so if you "convince her", or manipulate her, that possibly hurts her in the long run... After you've already moved on to somebody else, then that's a horrible and selfish thing to do.

Just tell her to do the research, and do it properly, before she makes a decision.
Don't tell her anything about what you want, or anything that could manipulate her decision... This is her life, and it's important that she does what's right for her, even if it means you two won't work as a couple anymore.

>>8329753
It's not hormones, that's a side effect of being on 4chan.

>>8329753
why don't you fuck a cute guy?
nothing wrong with liking guys anon
you just got socially conditioned into thinking it was bad for some reason

is 17 inches shoulders bad

>>8331479
It's wide, but it's workable.

>>8329986
>he's only good at small ones btw!
what you mean? D:

>>8334666
He's not good at working with a big thing... At least afaik, that's a big reason why some mtfs who go there come out with extremely large clits.

>>8334719
oh, I see
I'm only the smaller side, I think, so hopefully okay
I'd only get SRS if it was from him but I don't know if I do want it at all, orchi might be enough

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I wanna be a trophy wife toooooooo

>>8336453
i want to be with someone i see eye to eye with and who gets me and we both love eachother endlessly

>>8336524
That's sweet, anon.

I just want to be able to have a girl laugh, god.
How do you even train it? I can't even fake a girl laugh.

>>8336843
just never laugh again

>>8296428
>>8296429
originally Magic Shave powder was invented for black men in the military (as they're required to be clean shaven but frequent razor shave + black people hair = skin catastrophe) but recently it's become the transfem/femboy shaving product of choice

>tfw relaxing freshly-body-shaved in a warm bath w/ tea and banana bread while listening to Evangelion music on my bluetooth speaker & estrofem snug under my tongue
who /fem/ x /comfy/ here?

Don't die!

>tfw a wind storm knocks out your shitty satellite internet for over 18 hours and you are a neet loser who has nothing but the internet
that was a depressing 18 hours

>>8341703
Why satellite Internet?
Do you live on svalbard or something? ... That'd be really interesting, to have lived there.

>>8342201
because i live on a acreage in the middle of no where

Nobody else started the 30day squat challenge thing?
Still going! Done 5 days now.

>>8343021
no will, too much fuck everything going on

>>8343021
good luck, anon!

>>8343021
I started the extreme one, currently on day 4 aka rest day

I just put makeup on for the first time and didn't completely fuck it up :)

>>8346186
congrats anon
results must of looked pretty good i take it

some days i question if everything is worth it. maybe i can live life happily as a gay man, I just need to find the right guy to treat me right? hell maybe killing myself is the right answer i dont know at this point. halp me

>>8287638
Dude, quit playing the victim. I'm a girl that grew up without any sort of beauty training. Only now, 30 years later am I learning hair and make up.

It's practice like anything else. There are plenty of great youtube channels and articles on this shit.

The reason you feel derpy is because you're unskilled and unpracticed, like trying to play a song on the piano without any prior training. Just keep working at it.

>>8347240
Well, nothing spectacular. I only put on eyeliner. My plan is to practice simple makeup one step at a time so that eventually I can put it all together. I just expected it to be a disaster, but I managed to be pretty precise with it. Although I need more practice doing my left eye.

I ordered an eyebrow pencil next.

>>8348354
I'm not sure how to help you sorry but I know that killing yourself is definitely not the right answer, anon.

>>8348354
i have talked to other people who tried to go the gay guy route
does not work out...made them feel like shit
maybe you can do it though, i don't know

Just tried hair removal cream for the first time, to no avail. I guess I used it wrong.

>>8349660
shit, that is disheartening

>>8349876
I probably just didn't use enough or didn't leave it on for long enough. Don't be disheartened.

>>8336453
>>8336524
>>8340307
>trans moaning
Why won't you just die?

t. chaser

>>8343021
>>8345643
>30 day squat challenge
How does it square with your other goal?

>Reducing Muscle
>http://www.trans-health.com/2001/lose-muscle-gain-fat-dieting-for-mtfs/

Trans women have beehive for brain.

>>8350600
we will

>>8350617
My other goal is to lose weight. BMI 17 looked the best on me, gaining fat ended up a meme for me. I'll just try to shape myself with muscle instead... Missed a day of squats today, never got a chance to do them, because too embarrassing to do them when others are around.

>>8351345
>because too embarrassing to do them when others are around
I know that feel. Years ago I used to do 200 situps a day and I kept it up for months but it was really awkward trying to do them in different places or like when I went camping or something.

>>8353859
200 a day...
holy fuck anon

>>8353896
I think it as 200, 100 in the morning and 100 before going to bed. It was when I was a teenager though and it did barely anything (because I didn't do other exercise, change my diet, etc.)

>tfw you fall in love with someone who lives across the earth
waaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiii

Just heard this on radio
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBB_QOZNEdc

I've never in my life heard somebody try that hard to cover everything
>You're beautiful as you are!
>You don't need to change your body!
>Unless you want to, that's ok too!

>>8355181
same :c

>>8327936
Wtf what insurance please be American

>>8355181
this feel is too heavy

>>8355181
How can you fall in love with somebody you've never met, and maybe never even seen?

>>8355901
Yep, Kaiser Permanente in Oregon.

I actually just got a letter saying I was approved. I have a question though. How weird does it look to be getting trans-related surgeries as an MtF still in boymode?

I'm ending up feeling it way more in my right leg than left leg, when doing squats... I suck at this...

>>8359121
i used to think ldr's were completely retarded
but now i am in one and i have never been so in love with someone
i don't know how it happened

>>8359243
>Portland meme

getting titty skittles is easy as pie in this city

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I think my right leg actually looks a bit thicker, even after only a week... Left leg still looks way too skinny.
I'm gonna end up like this, but with my legs.

>Cleaning apartment
>Loads of dust
>wheezing a little when I breathe now
Is this normal, or does this mean I am allergic to dust mites?

>>8359243
where can you even get surgeries while still presenting male? i guess ffs is possible but most srs surgeons require a year of full time

>tfw when I was on a swim team during puberty
>tfw as a result my shoulders probably ended up broader than if I just hadn't done sports
>tfw I'm a hon forever and only have myself to blame.

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>tfw 6'3
>dangerously underweight at 122lbs so i already look weird
>uneven ribs from a gross condition called pectus excacatum
>want to transition but have manly as fuck facial aesthetics
>best friend just came out as trans with no warning and now it's gonna look bad if i do too

should i just jump in the river, /tgg/
i wish i was born normal looking instead of winding up looking like a lanky mutant

>>8364811
you need to eat more holy shit
gain some weight, you will look better
yes that is a hard height, but if you are going to kill yourself anyways why not just try to transition and see what happens?

>>8365068
>you need to eat more holy shit
i cant eat much without feeling like im gonna throw up everywhere, i dont know why

>>8365132
have you tried maybe gradually eating a little more each day?

>>8365132
Try something like protein powder + chocolate powder + milk, but drink it really slowly, like over half an hour.

Fair amount of calories, it tastes decently well, and you'r drinking it instead of actually eating it.

>tits are sore
>massage them to try and help
>they just get even more sore


WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Every time!

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>>8286160
Thank god these threads are back. i fucking hate /mtfg/. you could honestly fix this whole fucking board by making a /trans/ and removing the ability to trip on it.

also story time
>have insanely bad sore throat
>go to clinic
>have to put down legal name and sex on medical forms
>nurse asks me the run of the mill bullshit questions
>"whats your pain on a scale of 1-10, how long has this been going on, do you smoke or drink, have any allergies?"
>and then
>"when was your last cycle"
>tfw i have to explain to my nurse that i don't have a cycle

>>8364740
Is that really how it works? You can permanently alter your body structure because of exercise when you're young? Sounds fake

>>8366895
i just leave mine alone

>>8366973
i can relate senpai, that kind of stuff is harsh

>>8366973
>fix this board by making a /trans/
This kills the board.

>tfw i found someone who i love and they love me and it is so beautiful
no one has ever loved me before and i have never had anyone, this is so wonderful, it makes me cry thinking about it

>>8367613
:)

>>8367613
Ya its absolutely wonderful to have though if you ever lose it it leaves you a fucking wreck.

I'm seeing my therapist today
Any tips on telling them about being transgender? I feel like I'll just end up bottling it up.

>>8367682
Say it before you really start to talk. Like, say, before we start to talk, I'd like to say something.

Had issues with it too... I was so set on telling my "diagnostician" about how I felt, but after talking a bit, I put it on hold, and in the end I never told them... They just figured it out on their own.

>>8315428
Would you still be attracted to them if They had surgery?

>>8367682
mine kinda just asked me questions because they knew i wanted to tell them about something
they first asked if i was a pedo, then if i liked to fuck my pets
then if it was a gay thing
then if it was a gender thing
really really awkward
i should of just went and said it instead of beating around the bush

>>8370085
>they first asked if i was a pedo, then if i liked to fuck my pets
Jesus Christ, where did you find such an awful therapist?

>>8370983
in a tiny hick town with 4000 people in it

life is scary

>tfw thread is dead as fuck

>>8375813
It's a nice feel. I like how slow these generals are, it means I can keep up with everything. I always have it open in a tab.

>>8375820
why not thread watcher?
and i am k with slow, but there was only one or 2 posts in the last 24 hours

>>8375876
I never turn my computer off so it's just better to have it as a pinned tab, in my opinion. It's not the only general I follow.

And yeah, it is a tad too slow here. We could liven it up with some discussion. What are your thoughts on eyebrow pencils?

What are waiting lists for gender therapy like in the UK?
I told my normal therapist about my feelings, and he said he'd see what the next course of action would be (I imagine I'll continue seeing him for a few more sessions as we determine the best route).
I've heard horror stories about waiting lists even to just see someone about this though. Self-medication is becoming more and more tempting.

How do I seduce this trans girl I like? Were OK friends but I really want to sleep with her

>>8376031
get outta here, chaser

>>8376031
if you love her, find out if she loves you
if she loves you then it's cool
if there is no love, then fuck off chaser

>>8375935
Years, probably 2-5 years or something.
You'll have to self-med, so you can start immediately with that.

>>8376627
Thanks for the advice, looks like I'm going to dodge the bullet that is the NHS then.
I'll have to sort out my financial situation though, unless my parents support my decision for self-medication.

Are strong cheekbones masculine?

>>8377133
really depends on the face

>>8377133
Only if cheeks are gaunt.

>>8376646
You should still go to NHS, because at some point they'll start paying for your hormones, and other things you might need.

>>8377133
They can be either/or. High cheekbones are often seen as symbolic of "classical beauty" in women.

Waaaah
Any good fairly recent TV series?

>>8377816
I'm catching up on season 6 of new girl at the moment. I find sitcoms the easiest to bingewatch.

>>8377816
watching tv is pleb
just lurk internet, much more fun

how do you acquire female socialization and behavior if you grew up as a man and learned to act as society deems fit for men?

>>8380613
Drop the male act, and start to dare act more feminine, pretty much.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeilEyvvGm7oWgj3uzWU-NxBWnTmzi6IaMmU_z1caPXbEIsIw/viewform?usp=sf_link

for those of you with asperger's (or who suspect it)

>>8380613
stop pretending to be a guy

>tfw fucking massive hands

Gonna bump you before I go to bed, so you don't die in my sleep.

>>8286160
>no erping
this general is shit

Hey do you know of any cute trans lesbian manga or book? Im kinda scared to ask on /u/ because of the whole "no penis allowed" autism and all that...

>>8382860
hang yourself you agp slut

>>8382981
check /d/

>>8383037
I guess i could but i doubt they would give me anything that isnt completely fetishized futa hentai tbqh

phantom vagina is the fucking worst i want to die

>>8383510
sounds hot, how did you get it?

>>8382860
>>8383266
Ask >>8344224

>>8383031
Don't shame her for that.

>>8384279
>Don't shame her for that.
why not?

>>8385300
Because liking agp fiction is natural and fine.

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reminder

>>8385635
why would someone make a tier list like that

>>8385635
luke?

>>8385330
yeah what anon said.

AGP and proud

>>8385657
are you seriously camped out in every /mtfg/ thread looking for cornflake pics?

>>8385670
I never posted here.

But Luke is an ancient piece of work. I love her every move. <3

When trans girls are told that they wear old women's clothes, they are almost always overweight. This is not a coincidence. It is not actually the clothes that make you look old, but fat distribution. The clothes they wear are really age neutral. Post-menopausal women have fat distribution that is much more top heavy. When you accumulate body fat while you still have excessive amounts of testosterone, this will give you a body shape closer to a woman past her 40s rather than a woman your own age.
But this is not something to panic about! You can dress in a way that accentuates your body shape in a flattering manner. It also helps to pick clothes that have distinctly youthful designs. If you lose weight you can also expect your body to melt fat in testosterone associated areas more. It will still take a while, but you may get the youthful shape that you desire quicker than you think.

>>8329733
>From what I've read it brings a lot of [...] regrets.

Why are you reading transphobic drivel? You sound like a shitty boyfriend.

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>>8386738