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>tfw you're talking to a new trans acquaintance IRL and they say the word "tranny" first, and you breathe a sigh of relief 'cause it means you don't have to figure out whether they're easily offended or not
edition

•Makeup for beginners:http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
•Male vs Female measurement data:https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
•Correct hormone levels:http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
•Checking your levels:http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
•Reducing Musclehttp://www.trans-health.com/2001/lose-muscle-gain-fat-dieting-for-mtfs/
•Size charts:http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
•Transition time lines:http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
•Voice Training:https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
•Voice Help:http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
•IRC:https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg

>>8163679
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who poops all day and pees all night?
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>trannies in charge of making new threads
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>>8165636
i only poop when i eat too much
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Beep

Honestly who actually gets offended by the word
"tranny". Although saying that if anyone irl that I knew said that id be pretty pissed.
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beepbeep thread
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>>8165632
don't ever post college humor here again. We are not tumblr.
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>ywn be a zany uber-confident outgoing tranny in Zara Kane's mad half-drag half-trans entourage
>ywn party with Sphirex and her lot in Cambridge and speedball yourself into an early grave
>tfw always on the periphery, surrounded by well-known and talented friends and friends-of-friends, but never in the limelight, an outsider among outsiders
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>>8165644
can you delete this
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>>8165644

finally, a thread with substance
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Sometimes i wish i didn't have dysphoria and didn't go tranny.
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>>8165647
if you wanna be a disgusting drag queen ok
you could prolly pull off a cool mecha-tranny thing desu

>>8165652
i was gonna kill myself if i didn't transition, dysphoria be damned

i mean is the grass really more verdant over there? i think not

>>8165645
srsly wtf is the "joke" supposed to even be, judges have lives too?

>>8165648
it'll always be a nim thread in your heart
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>>8165652
Doesnt everyone, being trans is pretty up there in terms of things to ruin your life.
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>>8165647
>ywn be a zany uber-confident outgoing tranny in Zara Kane's mad half-drag half-trans entourage
thank fucking god.
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>>8165657
hi lil bat girl
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>>8165636
>tfw u eat something bad and pee out ur butt
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>>8165648
no
>>8165651
see pic

thread song
https://youtu.be/7SGeNsQttYE
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>>8165657
>i was gonna kill myself if i didn't transition
Samr here, the day I decided to go for it was the day i put a loaded revolver to my head. Still though this is a horrid existence if you're 5'10"
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>>8165665
>this post almost had trips

>>8165666
wtf do it
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>>8165668
>if you're 5'10"
go away.
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>>8165668
Being 5'10" is great
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>>8165671
Being taller than everyone around me (including my bf) really sucks
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>>8165677
5'10" isn't even tall tho, you're just shitting on people that are actually tall with this shit.
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it's a little early to be talking about height, don't you think?
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good morning
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real-time generated girlvoice when?
https://lyrebird.ai/demo
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>>8165668
i just get googly eyes for tall cis girls

i always said i was 5'10" as a dood but really i'm like 5'9.3"

desu i see plenty of pretty girls my height

>>8165677
lol is he homo floriensis or something

>>8165663
hi lil nimily
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>>8165681
nim hey nim hey. hey nim. hi.
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>>8165682
:)
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>>8165680
Wut
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>>8165680
It is when every female in your area is shorter than you, it feels so unnatural and you stick out so easily even at 5'10
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>>8165661
>>8165657
senpai I'd rather be a weirdo fetishist and happy than legitimately trans and fucking miserable like I am in actuality
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>>8165686
hey howdy ho

>>8165685
hru
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>>8165691
This 1000%
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>>8165693
hi Robin!
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>>8165693
Idk weird thing to escapism into if you're not a weird fetishist tho.
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So my shoulders are only proportional to my hips if I strain to pull them backwards. Are there any braces or clothing that can assist in pulling my shoulders back so I don't start straining after 5 mins of doing it myself?
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>>8165668
>>8165691

5'9 reporting in, thankfully people around here are tall enough I don't stand out much
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>>8165690
>homo floresiensis
dropped a syllable oops https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_floresiensis

>>8165693
be mecha tranny

>>8165694
mixed, i've accomplished a little bit this morning but i need to get moving on the rest of it

i spent $70 on a flower arrangement, they better kick ass

also i keep eating these yummy cookies and wishing i had friends
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>>8165668
>if you're 5'10"
damn ur so brave ;-;
>>8165691
Every female isn't shorter than you at 5'10''
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>>8165700
I have however had guys (generally older guys) comment about how tall I was after I stand up sometimes though..
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>>8165688
hello!!!
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I'm wearing like the girliest workout clothes rn and I'm wondering why I tried to wear boy clothes for the test
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>>8165699
i just bought a brace for my posture yesterday

it pulls my shoulders back maybe look into that?

i can give you the one i got if you want
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hi everyone
dysphoria and body insecurity sucks
thanks
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>>8165703
it's really too early for height talk

>>8165706
how'd the cookies bakin' go
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>>8165700
Why'd you drop your trip? It's been a while how are you?
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>>8165713
I actually lost the autofill setting for my nice trip with this more recent stay of absence it seems.. I'm alright though, just making phone calls and stuck on hold this morning. How are you anon?
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>>8165707
you wanna be taken seriously by the patriarchy it's okay

be ur lil nb self

>>8165709
hugs tho

>>8165708
i recommend lots of hugs to fix ur posture

>>8165712
>>8165706
ooo you baked cookies too? i made vegan chocolate chip cookies last night that are pretty amazing
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>>8165708
link please
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>>8165712
still gotta do the baking part, just got to slice the dough I made last night and put em in the oven

they had to sit in the refrigerator for at least 4 hours
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>>8165709
/thread
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>>8165709
At least it makes me feel good to not be alone in feeling like a peice of dog shit. That's why mtfg is the best trans space around. Every other place is a total hugbox zone. I've posted pics in every other online trans space and I've been told I pass and not even that but they stooped so low as to call me pretty. Makes me wanna dry heave.
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>>8165718
I'm making cinnamon chocolate chip ones
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>>8165712
I want to stomp on people with my boots im angery!
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>>8165718
Pls... I want to be part of the patriarchy but.. I have to take estrogen to feel better

Please patriarchy, tell me what position you want me in
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>>8165726
ooooooo yum
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>>8165729
>Please patriarchy, tell me what position you want me in
Im afraid the end game for every tranny is porn or prostitution
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>>8165543
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>>8165718
is that what makes me slouch? lack of hugs?

>>8165727
what kind of boots

>>8165717
kari hi
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>ywn be eggman's prom queen (male)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP_mhDzN2SE
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>>8165729
I forgot the pic related
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>>8165738
Hii nim how are you
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>>8165743
better

how are you? :)
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>>8165718
Is is time for cute animals?
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>>8165738
big stompy boots!
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>>8165717
Oh you're my kari, hi <3
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>>8165745
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>>8165726
i wish i had the patience to leave mine overnight but my recipe still worked out fine

damn it I have no self control, i'm eating another now

>>8165729
i wanna be a housewife tbqh

>>8165738
yes i prescribe 32 hugs/day to be firmly administered every half hour

>>8165745
YES
>yes.webm
of course!

but i gotta post a cookiepic too
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>>8165735
There's already been a trans police officer

She just had to have a law degree and 20 years military service to be seen as equal to a hs grad
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>>8165748
but boots aren't for stomping!!

they're for making a fashion statement~
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>>8165744
Better? What was wrong friend?

Again, can't complain, just getting some stuff done that I put off cause I was taking a 2 week break after finishing my classes just to relax. Now it's time to start working on surguries and any stuff I need done, get my car engine fixed, and touch up resume some for later this week

>>8165749
Yesyes, Hi <3
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>>8165754
I'm sad though
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>>8165756
If you are a girl :(
Mines only stomp
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>>8165760
you can have my cookies

they'll make you unsad
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>>8165765
Thank you, they look delicious~
I haven't had any cookies in a loong time >_<
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>>8165754
t-that's a lot of hugs

>>8165759
another depressive episode i guess, lowering my cypro helped

im switching over to bica, hopefully that helps even more :)

oh are you getting ffs? i hope your car being busted isn't affecting anything D:
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>>8165765
I remember when my gf made me cookies
That was a good time, too bad the good times are over now and will never return
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>>8165762
you are a girl dummy
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>>8165755
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hugg anna twice
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>>8165776
i want a cute bf/gf to bake for

and i wanna be a mommy
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Ughhh h I have to work all day today why do I have to be feeling like shit fuck
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>>8165784
mommy!
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>>8165778
im really not tho just a failure
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>>8165786
What's wrong Grace?
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>>8165790
Why did you cut your pretty hair?
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>>8165790
you're a girl and i have to pat ya okay
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>>8165673
>elanna is taller than me
Ah...
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>>8165774
Nah, car isn't in too bad of shape it's just finicky to start up lately, it'll still run if you know how to start it. Roommate says I just need new spark plugs or something but I don't know cars for shit and I know some other stuff needs done so just gonna drive through a shop and see what they say.

FFS is gonna be down the road though, right now I'm working on Breast Augmentation and also looking into having some finishing work done on my teeth finally. Also may get another laser round done but yeah that's the main goals for between now and starting a job within a couple months.

>>8165786
*hugg* feel better dear :< If you need, you know I'm here to talk!
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>>8165765
You can bake for me~
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>>8165793
Like I mentioned earlier, dysphoria and body insecurity
All my good feels about myself from yesterday are goooone
>>8165799
thank you <3
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>>8165794
Because I'll never fucking pass and people made fun of me for it
>>8165795
PITY
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>>8165697
I know a bunch of people big into the alt clubbing scene in southeast england

they seem so much more confident in who they are than I am
they don't care about lack of purpose in their lives, they enjoy just living somehow
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>>8165803
it's not pity you freaking maroon
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>>8165803
you still look like a girl tho
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>>8165808
>You still look like a girl even though you will never pass
gets my neurons firing it does right there
>>8165807
maroons have too much sugar I am a delicate steak burger
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>>8165803
>cuts hair because they want pity and realized nobody would take care of their ugly ass
>now nobody ever will

gz
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TFW REVISING BUT I READ SO SLOW AND NOTHING IS GOING INTO MY BRAIN
I'VE ONLY DONE A FEW TOKES OF WEED ON A FEW DAYS THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS
I'M DRINKING LOTS OF WATER
I'M GETTING ENOUGH SLEEP
WHY DOES THIS ALWAYS HAPPEN

>>8165702
>>8165657
>mecha tranny
what even?
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>>8165801
Maybe a glance at the nice images you posted yesterday showing how passing you looked would help.
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>>8165813
well of course you won't pass with hair that short
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>>8165799
oh yeah im looking to get my wisdom teeth removed because they're starting to push on my teeth and make more of them crooked, then braces

i secretly hope getting all that done will slim my face down a bit >>;

and oh yeah im really happy im doing laser now, ive only done one session but i can already see a lot less facial hair
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>>8165817
about that
I see a dude in like all of my pictures
takes some mental gymnastics on my part not to
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>>8165813
>burger
wtf gross
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>>8165818
I won't pass ever.
>>8165814
That isn't what I just said senpai
I'd still have long hair if people didn't insult me for having it
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>>8165814
gg
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>>8165784
That's the dream, mommy gf to make you cookies
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>>8165740
reeeeee how are there girls(male) who look and sound this cis
why do I have to be so goddamn inferior in every way
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>>8165733
I'll finish them today, I'll send pictures then ><
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>>8165825
How did people insult you for long hair? People here or in real life?
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>>8165825
You buzzed it though didn't you? Why didnt you of get like a cute fem boy haircut?
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>>8165816
embrace your disorder, crutches/etc. and design your style around being an augmented human

eventually scam nhs for a powered exoskeleton too

be the wild seemingly carefree alt-clubber you wanna be and make crazy friends with whom you can do drugs and be vulnerable

>>8165829
i'm supposed to be hte mommy

gf is supposed to be a gnc badass who makes lots of money so i can raise babby and aminals on our off-grid homestead
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>>8165833
Real life obviously who would do something after an internet shitposter told them to
>>8165834
I'm too scared to go to the hairdresser so I bought some clippers online
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Reminder most of you will look better with short hair anyway because your faces are too wide/masculine and going for a more masculine female stereotype will help you pass instead of being a stereotypical hon
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>>8165830
Because they worked hard and trained their voices...?
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my minoxidil got here

im a real man now!
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>>8165838
That sounds like bullshit, like long hair will always look more fem.
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>>8165840
MANoxidil
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>>8165839
tfw parents always home and too scared to train voice
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>>8165843
That's delusion speaking

t. someone that laughs at hons with long hair thinking they look fem daily when it only makes them easier to spot
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>>8165852
Should I cut off all my hair then?
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>>8165856
If you want to go for the cancer patient aesthetic sure maybe someone would care about you then
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>>8165852
maybe you're just an asshole tbqdesu
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>>8165864
>responding to violet
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today I ate a buillon cube to stave off hunger and it made me feel sick. I'm going to bed now. I'm not even that poor I just don't wanna go outside.
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>>8165871
water it down first silly
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Has anyone here tried waxing or sugaring before? How is it compared to epilating?
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>tfw you realize you forgot to cancel your therapy appointment today where your therapist is planning on telling your mom you're trans
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>>8165875
oh.. I didn't consider that.
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>>8165878
Better call quick
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Violet is a less funny CNT.

Just ignore the crazy bitch desu.
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>>8165740
Kinda reminds me of me and my bf. Its not sad but kinda beautiful how super lonely and socially autistic people can connet romantically
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>>8165878
Good luck! It's prolly better if your therapist is with you
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everyone and everything is so loud today :(
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>>8165861
No thank you.

>>8165878
Wut why not just tell her yourself.
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i'm gonna eat more halp

>>8165876
i used to wax my legs

it's mostly fun and the results are satisfying, kinda messy tho

never epilated but i didn't mind the pain from a good pull
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I'm gonna hold her hand and make her happy
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>>8165836
but whenever I go clubbing I end up standing completely motionless in a trance for hours like when you put a clip on a horse's lip, because loud noise + flashing lights + aspergers ;-;

I WISH I was an augmented human
if Elon Musk's neuro-implant research takes off I'd absolutely volunteer to be guinea pig, I hate my stupid retarded body, I really really want to try a powered exoskeleton even if it's just the legs

if Ghost In The Shell became reality I'd ditch this meat sack in a flash, idk if my original consciousness dies and is replaced with a copy or what, I'm that desperate, the reason I love ketamine so much is that it stops me from feeling trapped by the boundary of my own self, I'm so claustrophobic in my own skin it drives me up the walls whenever I'm awake
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>>8165888
Nim's mom is basically the Conservative Latina Mom stereotype.

It's not a good kind of mom to have when you're trans in my experience.
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>>8165884
Why did you chose such an ugly font? It's almost as bad as comic sans.
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>>8165871
DUDE JUST BUY FUCKING RICE OFF AMAZON
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>>8165878
maybe just tell her you're some kind of fag instead
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>>8165839
I try so fucking hard
it's not my fault my muscles literally don't tense properly
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tfw no 90s alt rock dreampop/shoegaze band named strange as angels to be the singer of
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>>8165889
Did you use hot or cold wax? And I wonder what would be the least painful method that lasts longer than shaving.
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im thinking of just shifting the therapy conversation from "your son is trans" to "your son wants to date a tran, let's talk about it"

that'd be a lot more fun
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>>8165879
because you're obviously very retarded
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>>8165893
Lol fuck you
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>>8165906
"your son wants to become his own gf"
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>>8165898
I'd have to pick it up...
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>>8165901
Dude you learned to type on a computer didn't you? If you have the fine motor control to do that then you have the give motor control required to speak
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>>8165902
lets start it okay
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>>8165913
No fuck me!
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>>8165915
It gets delivered to your house you can leave a note for them to leave it on the doorstep as well
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>>8165909
yes but there's no need to be mean.
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>>8165916
robin says everything is impossible because of her disabilities, idk whats the point in trying to argue about it
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it's not ok that faceapp is this good for my dysphoria
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>>8165904
hot

as long as you don't fuck it up and tear the skin it's really not that painful

>>8165898
rice isn't part of a healthy keto diet

i'm about to eat some with mayo and sriracha tho

>>8165926
it's nice to think about a positive, pretty future tho
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>>8165921
I'm in a monogamous relationship, go fuck urself
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>>8165923
its not mean if its true
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after much measuring and looking in the mirror last night, ive come to the conclusion that my face length is right on the edge of okay and unpassable

and i count that as a victory
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>>8165932
yes it kinda is.
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>>8165935
ur gonna be a supermodel one day!
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>>8165939
>retard
>thinking their opinion matters
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>>8165922
maybe this is just a thing for countries that have their own amazon department..
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Why are transgirls so weird

I mean same, but I wouldn't tell you up front
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>>8165916
I type with two fingers and it still hurts, but if I didn't type I'd be fucked for means of communication as phones are an enigma to me
I can speak, sometimes I slur so much people think I'm drunk, but I've struggled with controlling volume/pitch/speed ever since I was a kid and resonance is completely out of the picture for me
I'm hoping when I finally get to Nottingham GIC I'll be able to be referred for speech therapy, but I think I need general speech therapy first before I can progress to gender-based speech therapy

>>8165926
>tfw faceapp completely changes my bone structure to make me look female
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>>8165948
I like that person a lot
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>>8165892
Ah fair maybe this is better then.

>>8165902
Stop stealing my dreams plz. If you do ill be forced to start a band before you.

>>8165906
Sounds like a good way to destroy all hopes of getting anyone on board!

>>8165926
Faceapp sucks barely does anything.
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>>8165942
gaahh it's all in the lower half

i really think there's something going on with my teeth that's making things more pronounced, really hoping the dental work im gonna get done will smooth things out a bit

it's all too boney!
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>>8165955
what do you mean :(
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>>8165948
because it's less hurtful for people to reject you immediately for being a weirdo and forward about it, than for people to think you're a normie at first and accept you into their fold, only to grow more and more distant and unhappy with your presence as they get to know you better

t. experience
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>>8165930
uhhh
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Who's going to play the HotS launch tomorrow?
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>>8165948
>tfw found mr right first go at dating
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>>8165964
I have no idea what that is
>>
im watching maltida c:

>>8165959
Idk just seems a stretch to say your dating someone whos trans. But could be fun go for it.
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>>8165906
sounds like a bad idea, avoid topic altogether if your not ready
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>>8165970
i already told her i met a transgirl in class and that i was interested in her to get her thoughts on trans people
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>That feel when you just wish you could help everybody but you can barely help yourself.
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>>8165964
Me! A few friends and I have it updated and ready for tomorrow. I really like hots and I hope the changes are for the better, else back to more Dota.
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>>8165979
that feel when my budd nicole
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>>8165964
Mayb
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>>8165951
>if I didn't type I'd be fucked for means of communication as phones are an enigma to me
wat
>tfw faceapp completely changes my bone structure to make me look female
post!
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>>8165976
How'd she react?

>>8165979
I know that feel way too much. Just keep working on yourself and maybe one day youll be stable and can help out, all you can do is try.
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>>8165979
bad feel
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>>8165982

I got banned from every US East DotA game on WC3, so I was kind of hesitant to try any MOBA, but I make a pretty good LiLi.

I have to work that night but I should be able to get a few games in.
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Oh God I did the face app and now I need to cry
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>>8166003
post
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actually feel cute today, and i finally got my hormones! out with the girls getting our nails and hair done :3
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>>8165992
>"it's just a gay man in a dress"
>"once the makeup came off you'd see it was a man, you'd see his beard shadow"
>"did he have the surgery yet?"
>"the fact that he gave you his number tells me he has experience"
>"if you decide to go out with this person eventually they'll want to put it in your butt"
>"no matter how much this person wants to be a girl they will never be one! and neither will you!"
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>>8165999
Hehe same I pretty much only play Li Li, I'm a sucker for the healing role and I'm glad she's a character in hots or I'd literally not care at all about the game
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>>8166005
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>bops have started to noticeably grow
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>>8166012
both are cute tbqh
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>>8166012
jawlet
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>>8166008
Those glasses look hideous and please don't stick out your tongue, that's cringy af
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>>8166012
Face app makes you look like my ex gf.
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>>8166012
Some day they'll figure out a way to make eyes bigger
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books are cool y'all should read books

“Do you guys see different kinds of suicides?’
The resident made no attempt to ask Kate Gompert what she meant. She used one finger to remove some material from the corner of her mouth.
‘I think there must be probably different types of suicides. I’m not one of the self-hating ones. The type of like “I’m shit and the world’d be better off without poor me” type that says that but also imagines what everybody’ll say at their funeral. I’ve met types like that on wards. Poor-me-I-hate-me-punish-me-come-to-my-funeral. Then they show you a 20 x 25 glossy of their dead cat. It’s all self-pity bullshit. It’s bullshit. I didn’t have any special grudges. I didn’t fail an exam or get dumped by anybody. All these types. Hurt themselves.’ Still that intriguing, unsettling combination of blank facial masking and conventionally animated vocal tone. The doctor’s small nods were designed to appear not as responses but as invitations to continue, what Dretske called Momentumizers.
‘I didn’t want to especially hurt myself. Or like punish. I don’t hate myself. I just wanted out. I didn’t want to play anymore is all.’
‘“Play,’ nodding in confirmation, making small quick notes.
‘I wanted to just stop being conscious. I’m a whole different type. I wanted to stop feeling this way. If I could have just put myself in a really long coma I would have done that. Or given myself shock I would have done that. Instead.’
The doctor was writing with great industry.
‘The last thing more I’d want is hurt. I just didn’t want to feel this way anymore. I don’t… I didn’t believe this feeling would ever go away. I don’t. I still don’t. I’d rather feel nothing than this.”
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>>8166012

Oh I got to try this
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>>8166026
doesn't getting your brow ridge sanded down make your eyes bigger since they're not as sunken in anymore

plus makeup
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>>8165985
I can type okay, but phones are too difficult for me to use due to co-ordination and audio processing issues
it all just sounds like daleks to me
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>>8166015
>tfw have not really noticed much in a while
:(
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>>8166026
Blepharoplasty , I think.

I guess the faceapp thing is ffs goals??
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>>8166038
mine haven't grown that much in a while ;-;
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>>8166032

JESUS CHRIST I SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT
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Faceapp is dumb
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>>8166044
post
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>>8166033
>>8166040
Makes them look a bit bigger yeah but that's just an illusion, it doesn't actually change their size
I mean maybe its enough idk I'll have to see
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>>8166043
what if I end up flat :(
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>>8166021
someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed today
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>>8166045
You are dumb
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>>8166047
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>>8166044
Panicc
>>8166045
Ur dumb
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>>8166048
that just means it's an illusion in the other way too :)
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>>8166049
Flat is the best life 2bh
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>>8166049
lil ones are still cute!!!!
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>>8166022
We have to date first
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>>8166064
but..i thought..
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>>8166059
Not a bad point
I just squint a lot when I smile so I make the illusion worse
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>>8166062
>>8166060
I don't want them to end up disappointing though
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>>8166070
i have p boney cheekbones so it closes up my eyes a bit

im still 6 months in though and my diet is shit so I expect to see more stuff happen after i switch to injections and fix my diet
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>>8166052
>>8166056
Yep, im a smooth brained cock slut
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>>8166078
>closes up my eyes a bit
Your eyes are huge
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>>8166078
My eyes changed a bit over the course of the first year for sure, if I look at old pics and compare it's pretty clear. You'll be okay

Maybe my cheekbones are the problem too idk. Bart didn't say anything about them when I talked to him though
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>>8166077
they won't be be :yum:

>>8166082
can't really tell scale in that pic anon
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>>8166089
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>>8166088
my issue is more with the boney features of the bottom half of my face

it might get better if i fatten up a bit but right im looking pretty skeletor

if anything is gonna stop my face from passing i think it would be my jawline and chin
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>>8166089
o-okay
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>>8166092
I WANNA KISS AND PROTECT THOSE LIPS
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>when ur chilling with bf on his bed
>when you gently rub his hair and kiss him
>when you drag your nails down his arms playfully
>when you grab his cock through his shorts
>when you feel it grow in your hand
>when you slide down and put your face right by it
>when you let it pop out of his shorts right it your face
>when you just eyeball it for a bit and tease the head with ur nails
>when you give it a kiss and he shivers
>when you slowly put it in your mouth and savor every moment
Wew
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>>8166104
same
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>>8166092
aaaaaAAAAHHHHHH

>>8166098
:3
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>>8166104
>>8166108
that's my job >:c
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>>8166105
do want desu
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>>8166092
That's a pretty strong jaw. It looks nice.
>>
o it's snowing
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woah insomnia i haven't had this for ages
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>>8166123
strong jaws aren't feminine :/
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>>8166095
I dunno, franken-nim looks pretty good :p
But yeah idk, I think you'll be surprised how little that impacts passing but I know that passing doesn't mean dysphoria goes away
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>>8166105
>when you think you're in love with someone who loves you back and then they decide they just want to be friends
Never thought i'd be asking you this but what's it like to be happy kayla
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>>8166133
right now im concerned about passing

if i get to that point ill see what their hurdles there are to overcome
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>>8166126
But they give you character.
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>>8166112
u-uwu
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is liking books written by upper middle class educated white men agp?

i really like these cerebral kinda books, pynchon, wallace, even so delilo but i feel bad for not reading more female-authored/minority/not middle-class-whitey books

>>8166138
ur gonna pass silly
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>>8166141
what does that mean lmao
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>>8166092
The line always annoyed me, so i removed it ._.
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>>8166136
Iktf anon, it'll take a LOT of time but slowly things heal if you allow it to.
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>>8166136
Its nice but when im not with him i just want to kill myself
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>>8166153
I don't think it does heal, something like this hurts too much
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>>8166147
maybe, im 50/50 on it

my shoulder muscles need to atrophy so they're not sticking out like airplane wings, gotta get my hairline back, gotta get some fat in my face, gotta use my brace to get my rib flare down

a lot of stuff i have to do, but it's a goal to strive for
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>>8166152
look at that chin pham
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>>8166153
It never heals
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>consider growing hair out
>opt for the nice short meme undercut instead
who /lad/ here?
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Tfw you don't wanna be trash all day but you can't think of anything to do
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>>8166136
I feel the same, anon.
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>>8166105
>when you're talking to a boy and you're both flirting hard and you both have really similar interests so you click really hard and every time you think of him you get butterflies in your stomach

when did HRT make me such a fag
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Hey, I have a question for y'all. Is dating a trans girl different in alot of ways to a cisgirl? If so, how?

I'm considering it, every Cis girl I've been with really just wanted to hit it and quit it. Never been in an actual relationship before because of that.
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>>8166162
It's a cute chin
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>>8166173
buttchin
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>>8166172
Please be my boyfriend!
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>>8166092
jawlet
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>>8166176
no cutechin
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>>8166170
Embrace being a real girl. Put that dick in ur booty. Cast aside all sjw liberal faggy feminist bullshit and go please a man, I promise it will be the most fulfilling thing on earth. Men have a rough exterior but deep down they are cuddle junkies.
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>>8166136
>that feel when she'll never love me back
why go on desu
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>>8166188
>why go on
Idk, if you find out let me know because life without her is so much worse than even the bad times when we were together
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>>8166166
Sup lad when do I get a CUDDLE
>>8166172
Emotional baggage, dick, anime and videogames
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>>8166012
Faceapp is cruel.
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>>8166188
>she'll
Thats your fucking problem right there. Stop being so fucking edgy and get a bf.
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>>8166178
>tfw not sure if sarcasm

I mean we can talk if you like, post contact if you want to
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>>8166152
improvements
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>>8166170
are you gonna kiss him
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jesus this 2 month dip is SOME KINDA SHIT

wow holy god i am not ok
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>super dysphoric and crying in dream
>wake up sad
>start crying while making breakfast
>get yelled at for crying again
I want off this ride :/
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>>8166204
a monster
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>>8166199
Im 25 and manly and turning 26 and want to transition. I get compared to you all the time and youre one of my biggest inspirations. You're like my big sister or something tbqh.

When did you start transitioning?
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>>8166200
Where are you from?
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>>8166187
I think I'm gonna.
>tfw thinking about cuddling up to him
fugg

>>8166205
th-that's lewd anon
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>>8166208
what do you mean chew tobacco
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>>8166197
I can think of worse. Honestly dick doesn't turn me on but neither does pussy. Maybe genitals are just fucking weird
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>>8166204
So basically this is nim
>brb blowing my brains out
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>>8166217
WHAT?
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>>8166222
She looks much better
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>>8166209
your mom is a bad person
>>8166208
everything will be alright in the end
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>>8166215
Texas, It's in the southern U.S
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>>8166229
>It's in the southern U.S

really
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>>8166209
no crying!

also wu make4brekk?
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>>8166216
Dont think, just do. And for the love of god just get a chaser, just makr sure he's only a top.

>>8166211
>me
>inspiring anyone lol
I started when i was 25, now 27. Im only 2 years into transition and I had a rough canvas to work with.
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>>8166233
Not everyone lives in/is familiar with all the states broski
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>>8166208
>tfw you got used to kink friends referring to diapers as dips and now you can't unlearn it
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>>8166222
i have the male version of that jawline
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>>8166239
Kayla you inspire me :3 please don't break my babytrans late transitioning histrionic heart :3

Actually go ahead i know you will because you're kayla :3
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>>8166241
yeah but they know texas ya fuc

texas, cal, and ny you don't need to explain, the rest you do
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>>8165657
What's wrong with drag queens?
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>>8166241
yabbut most are aware of texas
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>>8166252
There's literally nothing wrong with kayla
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>>8166252
they're not trans

desu i don't mind them but aesthetically they have completely different goals from me

and people are wont to assume being trans means i want to look like a drag queen
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>>8166226
what?
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>>8166249
Well, lesson learned I guess. Not sure it's worth getting touchy about my friend
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>>8166259
externally
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>>8166228
feel like i've just finished getting a sense of what my body actually looks/feels like and i'm walking around with a completed sense of it now and it's like walking around in a hurt locker you can't take off
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>>8166252
Because they contribute to society's idea of trans people as cross dressing perverts and get nice trans people bullied
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>>8166273
This but id also add transbians to that list

"Oh we're just girls like you but come over here and show me them titties bitch" and y'all wonder why cis women hate trannies so much.
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>>8166262
i'm always touchy it's a serious character flaw i've had since forever and nobody's ever manahed to fix kek

i like myself tho
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>>8166228
>your mom is a bad person
I know and I'm stuck here :(

>>8166235
>wu make4brekk?
Poached eggs and toasted rye
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>>8166260
i thought that being trans and being a drag queen were similar things until I came here

if drag queens weren't a thing i might've looked into trans stuff sooner

it's kind of sad that trans people have been entangled with LGB stuff honestly, i can see how they'd be kindred spirits but our issues go beyond just sexuality
>>
It's funny how you can tell who has been in gay spaces and who hasn't by what they think drag queens are.
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>>8166287
ive seen a few, they've mostly just taken the role of presenter or performer
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>>8166287
im a drag queen
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>>8166291
>they've mostly taken the role of a presenter or a performer
You don't say
>>
I made the mistake of thinking my girlfriend liked me for reasons outside of fetishy nonsense but she brought me to a queer burlesque show. It was awful. Fat sloppy girls with retarded hair shaking their 80 extra lbs with taped nipples, degenerate men sucking their fingers like dicks. Absolutely deplorable.

There was another couple in front of me, trans and cis (fat) girl. The trans woman looked so fucking miserable.

Life sucks when you're in queer circles. Why don't queer people get that trans isn't queer? They're all like hurrr hurrr gender "isn't real" but when pushed to define gender they clam up and get triggered. Fucking ridiculous. I need a new life.
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>>8166287
Cultutal caracture of women developed by the gay community

A couple of who live as cis males but say they are trans and can use trans slurs
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>>8166273
No, they can't do that. You're having victim targetting failures.

The person at fault is not the person expressing themselves -- no human being has the right to attempt to control what another human being chooses to wear. That there are evil, disgusting people who are not yet aware of this is unfortunate, but it does not make the person wearing clothes at fault just as a rape victim is not at fault in those cases where some idiot complains 'well she was wearing slutty clothes!'.
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>>8166229
Are you willing to move to yurop for me?
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>>8166287
>being proud of invading gay spaces

reeeee
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>>8166296
It's cute how you're upset about people who live as cis males attaching a trans label to themselves
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>>8166294
well that's what i mean, it changes the perception of people by making it seem like trans people are just playing dress up too
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>>8166287
desu i try to keep people out of my gay space

>>8166291
yeah it's very much about extreme performative gender so that's the context you're likely to see them in

i am more about eliminating restrictive gender norms not hyping them the fuck up

and imma girl
>>
Why are we pretending drag isn't transface
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>>8166304
l o l
o
l
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>>8166296
Yeah, drag queens are the reason i put transition off.

Case in point https://youtu.be/as8GLbVx5CA
>>
faye is a dummy desu
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>>8166304
Being trans is defined by the struggle to be ones authentic self

I do struggle with that, they do not, they link it to the time spent performing and the alter ego
>>
how long did it take you to get a fem voice just right?
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>>8166295
gender is the actions, feelings, and presentation that society assigns to different bodies.
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>>8166317
Finally some common ground


Also elanna you don't struggle anymore since your transition is finished so you know you have no dog in this fight anymore
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>>8166310
desu i mostly think it's just fags that love cher

>>8166319
like 5 seconds, people here said my clypits sounded female from the first one

i don't believe them tho
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>>8166308
yeah i get that too, in theory

but the problem i think is that a good part of the population doesn't really see a difference between a tran and a drag queen

i wish i knew how to change that view but i don't, besides greater trans visibility I suppose
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>>8166324
It's the inate biological sense of which body you want. Gender is your body. Only in the last few years have LGB sex deviants hijacked it for politically motivated agendas.
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>>8166317
Your whole life is a performance you don't get paid for though.
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>>8166328
my voice clips get anywhere from "lesbian" to "hon"

so i still got some work to do lol
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>>8166283
That's okay, some people are just different. No hard feelings

>>8166301
Which part of Europe?
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>>8166280
>cis women cant be creepy lesbians
how naive
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>>8165643
It's kinda like "nigga", I think. It's not that offensive when a trans person says it.
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>>8166300
Society as a whole is at fault
Anyone can do whatever they want and they're not doing anything wrong, but when they start to represent other people and create hateful stereotypes it can cause a lot of hurting, if there was some clarification it might be different but there isn't and people will always misinterpret things because people want to hate
trans people are a really small minority so we're easy to hate I guess but it certainly doesn't help with the kinds of things the trans label is being attached to
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>>8166341
Honnish cis lesbians can be creepy, thats about all though
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>>8166334
miss cock does for free shows too
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How do I deal with an orbiter I don't like?
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>>8166341
>how naive
That's our Kayla
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>>8166355
murder-suicide
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>>8166340
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>>8166308
They aren't eliminating restrictive gender norms by a performance any more then black face eliminated racial restrictions

You have to live your day to day life with that non conformity, not put on a show, to really challenge people's ideas.
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>>8166354
My bf says im an exhibitionist.
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>>8166355
just be honest
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>>8166334
Now you just sound like an unempathetic child, or a hon from the 50s, I am always me
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>>8166360
i don't think anything i said conflicts with your point... they're about performing, my life is more about eliminating restrictive cultural gender-based norms
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>>8166329
Trust me, it doesn't matter what people think. People judge you by what standards they know. I was full passing (I thought) yesterday in NYC, and a bunch of people still called me sir or "gentleman". The dude that sold me pickles was trying to be respectful probably just assumed I was really, REALLY homosexual.

Also why the fuck (rhetorical it's because NYC is shit) does NO ONE WEAR PINK IN NYC????

>>8166351
The creepiest are the lesbians with really gay male friends who care more about their queer gay identity more than they care about their personality, let alone others feelings. It's like this self centered attitude of trigger happy STD spreading degeneracy. And the worst part is I'm transbian scum so these fucking blowhard twinks assume I'm fair game and grope me now.

>>8166373
Become a cross dresser and pretend that's part of it. Retards pay great money to watch you whore out to their agenda.
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>>8166332
sex is your body. gender depends on your society and culture.
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>>8166359
Anon, the German empire doesn't exist anymore. R-right?
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>>8166378
uh really i just want little girls to be comfortable being badasses and guys to realize it's not emasculating to take care of basic domestic duties like washing their own dishes or fixing a button etc.

also that dominance-based social interaction is bad
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>>8166378
oooo im moving to nyc in august or january!
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>>8166388
If you need a room mate I don't have a job or a resume so never mind.
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>>8166378
>and a bunch of people still called me sir or "gentleman".
We're you in womens clothes?
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>>8166359
Funny, I actually started Duolingo a few weeks ago with learning German basics 2 completed, feelsgutenman

I'd be willing to leave for the right person. Texas gets kind of boring with all the flat land and cow farts
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i'm scared about my FFS stuff :c
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>>8166357
every post elanna makes is basically correct
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>>8166396
it's gonna be okay

im sure you did your research :)
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>>8166395
How old are you? And how tall?
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>>8166396
what are you getting done

>>8166398
even when she's in bullymode?
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>>8166399

i know, it's just scary ;_; idk why. stupid anxiety. make it go away nimmy pls

>>8166404

nose/brow
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>>8166393
Yeah, but it was thirft store nonsense I actually just looked like a guy in a sports jacket I'm sure. Come winter I'm going to get a pee coat, jeans, boots, scarf, pocketbook and look my age. I dressed comfortable but comfortable ain't enough.
. I'm also finding I don't fucking care about passing anymore. Like it's not that I want to be a guy or seen that way, it's that objectively my body is a guy and it's ridiculous to keep trying to pretend otherwise like the people who's opinions I value are already on the delusion reinforcing bandwagons.
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>>8166280
Is your "FUCK TRANSBIANS REEEE" basically the same as your "FUCK TRANNIES REEE" from back in /cd/.

Is the new Kayla saga you realising you're actually a transbian.
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>>8166403
I'm 19 and 5'11, so close yet so far

U?
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>>8166395
biggest problem with texas imo, once you ignore the culture, is the damned weather

i'd love to move to germany or the netherlands or maybe one of those cold baltic or nordic places
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Would /mtfg/ smoke weed they found on the floor of a NYC subway?
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>>8166337
>my voice clips get anywhere from "lesbian" to "hon"
well, they're right about that first part
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>>8166407
well how soon is it?

any surgery is scary, especially on a place like the face, but you gotta trust that your surgeon knows what they're doing!

it's scary now but once you're under you won't feel a thing and you'll have your nice new nose to look at when you wake up :)

well, maybe not AS SOON as you wake up lol
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>>8166396
I hope it goes well.
I'm envious. I need to fix my nose and my hair and I'll never be able to unless my family starts dying :/
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>>8166421
how are the cooookies coming along

>>8166422
ye im a lil lesbo desu
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>>8166420
it's weed right? smoke it

>>8166407
wht kinda brow work? i've heard that can be pretty awful
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>>8166404
ESPECIALLY when she's in bullymode
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>>8166414
I'm a bit older and a bit taller than you
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>>8166404
elanna has the real life experience and just doesn't have patience for the faggotry that goes on here

t. cis guy
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>>8166432
That's what I did, everyone I know keeps acting like I'm as crazy as finding a dirty needle in the alleyway and shoving that in my arm.
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>>8166420
it's prbly got pee on it
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>>8166420
gross no
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>>8166428
I feel exhausted so I have yet to bake them :\
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>>8166423

it won't be till november :c my friend is getting hers done a few days before mine so i'll take care of her first, then she'll be taking care of me.
we'll be recovering and stuff which makes me happy cause i won't be alone through it, but it still scares me.

>>8166424

ya my brow has given me dysphoria for a long time. i know i should feel lucky but idk. i need to get past the anxious feels.

>>8166432

brow bossing, hairline, brow lift :c
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>>8166416
It went from 90°F to hailing golfballs in the same day, I don't understand this place
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>>8166446
yeah and you'll get to see what the recovery process is like before you go in

i think that would make me feel better
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>>8166398
>every post elanna makes is basically correct
What would happen if Elanna made a post that said "this post is incorrect"?
>>
>dating girl
>she textposts with zack brannigan
>says she's been mistaken as a guy
>I use anime girls
>talk about getting misgendered as a girl

>>8166373
Okay sorry I misunderstood, and thanks for clearing that up
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>>8166445
aww that's okay

take your time ^^
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>>8166391
ill be living in my schools dorm probably

it'd be nice to be able to bring my cat with me to nyc tho
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>>8166447
i was further south, mostly just hot and humid

it's amusing how people in other places think a little sprinkle is a torrential downpour, the storms i've experienced in houston or dallas would have sent them into shock
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>>8166454
I might take a nap, I didn't sleep well last night
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>>8166334
My life as a male was a performance to placate the critics. I'm now finally being the real me, the feminine me.
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>>8166452
My two newest friends have both taken to the habit of mms picture compression for texting. Anything over 3 text splits I add a picture to make it one cohesive text. They were like hurrr that's crazy. Now they do it too a month later.

>>8166459
Word. I'm keen to get over there but I have no fucking idea in the world how that'll ever workout. I have very limited marketable skills and not enough money to start a business. I need to save up and start a business so I can hire people. I've always wanted to hire people, I'm good at leading and such. But you can't put "built world of War craft guilds and lead raids" on a resume.
>>
hi
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>>8166472
wtf i didn't realize other phones were so shitty

i can't believe people still have to deal with that shit in 2017
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>>8166472
what kind of business?

it'd probably be a lot more expensive to start one in nyc
>>
Quick question, how does it feel living without privilege, I can't even imagine it
https://clyp.it/0lht12en
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>>8166482
sounds creepy af my senpai
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>>8166450

ye the recovery shouldn't be tooooo bad, if i was getting a breast aug with it then i think i would wish i was dead lol
but brow/nose is mainly just uncomfortable the first 3-4 days and das it
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>>8166482
i think the vfs worked and that's why you keep failing boymode

do you think this girl you're talking to is into guys who sound like a girl?
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>>8166482
You actually sound nothing like a girl so you are in luck.
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>>8166490
it really blows my mind when people say her voice sounds female
its like they've never heard a human woman talk before idgi
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>>8166488
your friend isn't getting a boobjob right?

yeah i heard it's just swelling with nose stuff

they'll probably have to yank a bunch of gauze out of your nose tho :s
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>>8166488
i've heard from people who had brow work that it was horrendously painful and recovery sucked

dunno how extensive your work is gonna be but the full-on "type 3" or whatever is pretty invasive
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>>8166482
I know you're trying to joke but yeah you do have tons of privilege you're rich as fuck and white intersectionality mother fucker
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>>8166378
pink is not a power color, so no.

>>8166407
Change is always scary.

>>8166499
Brow work, already have issues breathing through my nose, not likely to work.
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>>8166490
>>8166487
I was trying to be a fem guy, that's the joke silly autists
>>8166489
The date with this other girl lasted a reallly long time and by the end of it I couldn't keep up my gruff boy voice and I slipped into full on girl, but she rolled with it like a champ
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>got drunk for the second time ever
>on a date this time
>im chill this time
>he said i was pretty
>he left
>looking at myself in the mirror
>realize everyone was right
>i dont look bad
>angry autistic repressed boy me is finally dead
Sorry for being a sperg here, I was miles deep in the closet and hated myself. And I hope this chaser calls me back, he was cute.
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>>8166509
then do ur girl voice lol
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>>8166510
nice
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>>8166481
Copy write and advertising. I am a copywriter but if I hire some cheapo college grad design student to format I'd be a full blown advertising start up. Idk.

>>8166507
Pink is the most powerful color. The only thing more powerful are stripes.
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>>8166510
wtf who is this and how did you crack shakira's trip
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>>8166496
Oh god the aut-right is here

https://clyp.it/sbgbmtfy

>>8166500
This is kinda true and I don't down play it too much
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>>8166515
nice! i really hope you can get it off the ground
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surgery never ever
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>>8166521
autistic is like your silver-bullet insult huh
just no coming back from it
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>>8166517
Shakira is full of peace and love now.
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WTF!
I tried to commit suicide and I ended up having my roommates save me.
God fuck them.

I'm just going to do it when they aren't around.
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>>8166523
but cudds soon
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>>8166510
1) Nice!
2)
>got drunk for the second time ever
I thought Brits were all alcoholics.
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>>8166528
wtf I don't believe this
have I slipped into an alternate reality
you're supposed to hide in your house and call yourself a hon and get mad at everyone
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>>8166527
There's isn't much else to say when the argument is literally reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>
bad
>>
Wow what was my plan repressing all of this? Was I ~trying~ to ruin my life?
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>>8166408
Boots, jeans, coat

Jesus just wear dresses or skirts like i do. I've never been misgenderd in girlmode.
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>>8166537
interesting
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>>8166531
butt cuds when
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>>8166434
Cool, is that important to you?
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>>8166529
don't be a douchebag roomie

>>8166535
only the white ones
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>>8166541
Tfw always get misgendered no matter what I wear
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>>8166531
that will help a lot
>>
ive been drunk twice

once when i found a bottle of wine in the fridge and chugged it then passed out

and once during my grandma's 80th birthday party
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>>8166544
no that's lewd
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>>8166535
Thank you Nicole, I'm sorry for calling you a Marxist cuck.
No I was really square as a guy, didn't even touch coffee, would sperg out about the health consequenes if you tried to give me a beer. As a woman I'm more willing to let my hair down because im not so fucking insecure.
>>8166536
It's me for real.
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>>8166550
ye for me too :3
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>all these trannies without borderline drinking problems
wtf is wrong with you all
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>>8166546
Fuck you
I have every right to kill myself
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>>8166558
just wait til i turn 21
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>>8166558
For a lot of people it makes the pain go away.
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>>8166560
kill your roommates first desu
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>>8166560
very poor roommate etiquette is all i'm saying
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>>8166558
I hate drinking alone.
I guess it also helps that I can't afford alcohol.
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>>8166558
transitioning and getting healthy are part of my journey to happiness

>>8166565
this desu
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>>8166563
ya exactly
much much better than cutting

>>8166566
drinking alone is the best wtf
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>>8166541
Don't listen to Kayla

Just dress boy mode and be happy if it make you happy, works for me
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>>8166541
>Don't pass
>Just wear dresses and skirts
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>>8166535
>I thought Brits were all alcoholics.
Only the degenerate ones.
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>>8166568
Eh, I misread your post, fuck me. But alcoholism is basically like cutting except you're doing it to your liver. Besides, I don't have a drinking problem either.
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>>8166558
I've already had my alcohol and heroin habits. Glad they are gone now.
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>>8166564
If they get in the way again, that will be an option

>>8166565
Don't care
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>>8166562
why tho?
>>
alcohol scares me
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>>8166574
I mean I don't really have a ""problem"" either, I just do it probably too often and people keep telling me to stop but I don't and sometimes I lie to them about it
SOMETIMES I wish i drank less but not enough to actually stop ya know
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>>8166572
Because I don't drink, this much wine (the empty part) pretty much ended me. My chaser has jungle fever on steroids he even turned up with Jamaican beer, I've never seen a white person drink Red Stripe lol.
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>>8166569
You don't have a boymode, stfu

>>8166570
If you got a decent wig, good makeup, a nice fitting dress and heels and a matching purse, shaved all over and used perfume, im sure u would pass. But go ahead and keep wearing man clothes and shaving your head and wondering why ur not passing
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>>8166587
ya lightweight a liter of wine is nothing
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>>8166587
U got a bf??? Congrats! How happy does it feel?
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>>8166581
That's fine, it tastes awful anyway.
>>8166584
Get help with that alcoholism you got.
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>>8166587
>turning up to a date with red stripe beer
You sure know how to pick them, Shakira
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>>8166589
Did all that and still don't pass
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>>8166545
Nope it's not a big difference
>>
>>8166584
>>8166581
>>8166575
Autist boy me had the right idea in some ways, I still refrain from drinking alone, only do it socially. If you down cans of lager on the sofa every evening that's how gain a problem.
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>>8166593
looks like half a liter
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Is lauren an old lady name?
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>>8166477
bye
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>>8166578
it makes me come out of my shell
>>
all your boymodes are weird. mine is sort of gay fash so no one ever thinks you're just a girl wearing men's clothes ('almost female' isn't a look cis females have a use for).

why do you all dress like improverished orphan boys living in council housing? where's the colour
>>
>>8166593
>>8166604
don't they sell wine by the 70cl in your countries? that's a standard bottle size here
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>>8166600
Fuck... maybe I'm not as bad off as i think.
>>
>>8166611
mine is just a tshirt and jeans
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>>8166593
Exactly, that's my point, my alcohol tolerance is basically nothing.
>>8166596
Idk I hope so, we'll see how it goes. Thanks, it feels amazing.
>>8166599
hey we had fun, you don't have to turn up to a girls house with champagne you know.
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>>8166574
>fuck me.
Okay, where do we meet?
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>>8166589
I had long hair, makeup, shaved all over and used perfume before. I got insulted for wearing girl jeans and shirts for merely doing that how the fuck do you think me putting on a dress and fucking HEELS is gonna make that any better
>>8166611
Because I'm ugly as shit and want to blend in
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>>8166558
only been drunk twice and both haven't been the best experiences

first one was with classmates but once i got lightheaded i panicked and ran away from the party

second time my mum stormed into my room after i had drunk half a bottle of wine, and yelled at me and Anna for sadposting on /mtfg/ and i continually cried and screamed back at her
it wasn't very nice
after she went away i did have a fun time with Anna while still under the influence of alcohol though so i guess it was 50/50

usually alcohol stuff doesn't taste very nice imo desu
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>>8166613
no but they do sell 750 mL so basically the same
I think a liter is much more common though for wine, 750 is usually for spirits
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>>8166613
Plonk is usually sold by the litre. Good wine by multiples/submultiples of 75 cl.
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>>8166617
Nowhere, since there's only a single girl I'd fuck right now, sorry~.
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>>8166613
the bottle is 750ml and I downed 2/3 of it so it looks like >>8166604 was right i had about half a liter.
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>>8166614
Even had ffs
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>>8166618
>jeans
Dress, bare legged, and open toe floral flats.
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>>8166615
exactly. who wears tshirts anymore?
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>>8166613
i'm not sure how 2/3s of 70cL = 1L

looks more like 50cL, or half a liter, was consumed
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>>8166610
I meant why wait until you are 21?
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>>8166625
Don't say such misleading things. I already bought a barrel of lube
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>>8166616
>hey we had fun, you don't have to turn up to a girls house with champagne you know.
I suppose not. Nor do you have to take a girl out to a fancy restaurant, when you can just serve her up a bowl of supermarket brand ramen and a tangerine for dessert.

Don't set your buying price too low though, you don't want to be one of "those girls".
>>
>>8166589
Trashy is 6'6" be compassionate.
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>>8166619
wine is the only good tasting alcohol imo
but really vodka + anything isn't that bad, its not like you're supposed to drink it for the taste
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>>8166629
Pics?
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>>8166611
>impoverished orphan boys
pretty accurate desu
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>>8166618
you'd look good in nicer clothes of either gender truhsh
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>>8166631
what do guys wear then

>>8166633
cuz i can't get it any other way
>>
>>8166634
Was it this? https://www.amazon.com/Passion-Lubes-Natural-Water-Based-Lubricant/dp/B005MR3IVO
>>
wtf all this talk of drinking makes me want to get drunk
knock it off you guys
>>
>>8166601
Yeah, personal preferences and stuff. I couldn't care less personally

Drop your contact info? I'm going to work soon and I don't like to browse 4chan in public lol
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>>8166587
my white person hick dad drinks red stripe sometimes but usually for more special occasions
>>
>see picture of grandpa
>HE HAS A WEAK JAW TOO
reeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEE
>>
>>8166645
I don't even need to click on the link to know that it's the right one ;)
>>
>>8166638
>expecting a black tranny from the ghetto to be high maintenance
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>>8166630
Where the fuck do you think I live I already get insulted for fucking feminine jeans I can't just go around in fucking floral with a dress nevermind the part where I DON'T FUCKING PASS
>>8166641
I look like shit because of my face and my body my clothes exist to hide them
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>>8166611
damn thats a good description
I wear a handmedown grey hoodie from my dead granpa and jeans I bought in high school every day
>captcha: frei normie
>>
Yet another nap I wake up exhausted from. Really stressful nightmare, and I apparently flailed so much I destroyed several things that were near the bed, but it was a literal epic. Way too much death and guilt again, though.
>>
>>8166639
Not going to post a pic
That's pointless
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>Talking to brother
"Hey, there are sheets on my bed"
"I noticed"
"Yeah, I've been feeling better, figuring stuff out, figuring myself out, you know?"
"Yeah"
"Do you want to know?"

...damn it how do I spit it out?
>>
>alcohol
puke
>>
>>8166648
Do you have discord?
>>
>>8166663
*stabstab*
>>
>>8166650
Thank him for supporting our economy.
>>8166663
I don't really like the taste either only drank it because he brought it. It was fun though.
>>
>>8166668
I'm glad you had fun shakira, I hope you have more good times ahead of you
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>>8166664
Yeah it's Zain19
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>>8166619
cocktails taste p good
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>>8166611
My boymode looks like this. Plaid flannels and girl jeans with skater shoes and my hair down. Funny thing is that in guy mode i get gendered female
>>
>>8166672
I need the 4 digit number as well
>>
>>8166651
*grandma
>>
>>8166651
I owe my big wonky chin to my grandfather. His mother also had the same.
>>
>>8166662
stop being careful where you put your hrt and let things take care of themselves
>>
>>8166671
Thank you *hugs*
>>
Hrt and ffs are memes
>>
>>8166674
waaaa waaaaa

i'm kayla and I don't pass. Kill me I'm so ugly!!!

haha just kidding I pass when I dress boymode.

!!!
>>
>>8166597
im not an alcoholic ya goof I just told you that
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>>8166677
no wtf it was maternal grandfather
>>
>>8166674
That's a dykemode, not a boymode.
>>
>>8166682
life is a meme t b h
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>>8166642
no friends or family members who would give you some?
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>>8166676
Whoops sorry I've only used this app like twice

#7475
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>>8166679

It's literally sitting out on my desk in a box that says Estrofem.

I AM WEARING A CHERRY BLOSSOM NECKLACE

how do I make this less subtle?
>>
>>8166677
o shit was nim's granpa a tranny too?
I guess it shouldn't surprise me at this point with her general family lineage
>>
>>8166683
When i put my hair up and have my facial hair grown out for electrolysis i don't pass
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>>8166674
xDDD woww my boymode is me wearing gurl clothes and passing ha ha lol
>>
>>8166667
wtf
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>>8166651
>complaining about weak jaw..

Nim, wtf. You pass better than most here and have an easy starting point.
>>
>>8166692
Thank you, I added you
>>
>>8166693
make up + girl clothes + wig
>>
i want to do amphetamines and run away from my problems until my heart fails
>>
>>8166689
i don't have any friends and my mom is the only family i have near me

and she doesn't drink
>>
>>8166700
Don't say that, everyone here is allergic to effort
>>
>>8166587
>>8166593
>>8166602
tfw I used to accidentally drink people under the table as they tried to keep up with me. I'd be drinking Long Island iced teas, and they would be drinking single shot equivalent drinks. I don't drink anymore except for taste when out with friends.

I used to drink to relieve my social anxiety. I started young, and it took a lot.
>>
>>8166642
button-front shirts, polos, sometimes longline Ts but not usually with jeans, with chinos or shorts i do
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>>8166702
but that's my life story, don't take that away from me.
please don't.
>>
>>8166694
wtf does that mean

>>8166697
wtf

>>8166698
>had an easier starting point
>at 6'1
??????????
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I miss my bf
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>>8166710
hmmmmmmmmm
ok sorry anon i'll find something else
good luck
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>>8166712
>there are no ciswomen that are 6'1
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>>8166714
You look like my sister in law and im jelly you got a tall bf
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>>8166700

That might be too far.
Perhaps I can communicate via meme
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>>8166707
Except some of us have put in effort and still don't pass
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>>8166558

I am pretty sure I am an alcoholic
>>
hope I feel better after laser
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>go walk in the swampy wilderness alone to clear my head
>2 miles in run into apparently the only other person there
>it's a good friend and former bandmate from high school who i havent seen since like 2008
>we walk and talk and have a good time catching up
life is cool

oh also i ran into some deer and then a GIANT WILD PIG that i thought was gonna kill me haha yikes amirite?

pic unrelated
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>>8166708
Never happened accidentally, people knew better. But I sometimes did it on purpose with strangers.
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>>8166721
Still can't believe it, but hey more good feels for me i guess
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>>8166709
oh are polos back in

i used to exclusively wear polos in high school when i didn't wear my "hiding my body because it's so gross" jacket but i just threw them out
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>>8166558
i don't even drink wtf, well today i do but that's different.
>>8166715
i'm sorry i mean wait just you can have it, fuck i don't wanna take anything away from anyone.
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>>8166725
ya i said yikes too when i read the part about the pig
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>>8166729
Because you refuse to accept reality.
Look at some of the people here who put in effort and look awful still
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>>8166717
not ones with male skeletons
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>>8166729
Yes everyone here just needs to wear dresses and shave! A little makeup will be enough to make their male bodies unclockable
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>>8166704
oh :/
alcohol laws in the US seem p tight. the first time I got drunk I just took some vodka from my parents resturant.
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>>8166737
when i saw that i almost turned back and ran, but kept goin. i told my friend about it and he was like "oh yeah they're all over thats why i carry this when i come here" and pulled out a big ol machete
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>>8166746
would you machete a pig anne
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>>8166718
is your sister in law pretty?
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>>8166738
i know this feeling.
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>>8166752
Fat and short with a big forhead
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:p
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Should I get FFS?
Pros:
I don't pass 100%. My brow is bad and my jaw isn't bad but could be better.
Cons:
Expensive, could get botched, some guys like the androgynous look which makes me unique in a world where I'll never be able to compete with cis females.
>>
>>8166763
can you fit nutmeg's whole head in your mouth?
I can fit my cat's whole head in my mouth
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>>8166660
*HUGS* I wish I could make them go away.

>>8166687
Dyke mode would be loose fit jeans.

>>8166717
I've been sandwich hugged by over 6' gals.
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>>8166730
ye but you gotta button em up

like pic is the style i mean
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>>8166763
I'm jealous of that cat!
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>>8166758
oh
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>>8166765
Does your face cause serious dysphoria? If so, getting ffs should be first on your surgery list. If not, you probably can do without.
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http://vocaroo.com/i/s1giGUi6FyRz

Do I need to do something or is it just practice from here on?
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>>8166747
shutup abt how young you are, myrthe

18yos don't deserve internet
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>>8166770
wtf
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>>8166784
need pharyngeal resonance and your good.
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>>8166783
is there a surgery if fucking everything does?
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>>8166784
not bad
I like your accent
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>>8166772
i don't think i can rock that

>>8166776
lay on my tum eva :3
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>>8166785
i'm very sorry anon :(
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>>8166792
How to get pharyngeal resonance?
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>>8166795
><
>>
every year my life just goes a bit more downhill
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>>8166741
kayla lies a lot
and only posts highly angled, cropped pic, never in public w people
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>>8166749
only if absolutely necessary, as a last resort. they're so big tho that i doubt it would do you very much good. best thing to do is just avoid them.

good news is that most of them are afraid of ppl and will run away. the deer tho, they just stare at you. and dont even get me started on them alligators
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>>8166792
>tfw
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>>8166796
that's ok
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>>8166792
Thank you very much. I thought I already had the resonance thing down. That's the one where you make it vibrate in your head instead of your chest, right?
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>>8166803
what would you do if a alligator came up to you walking on two legs and said "hoody-ho"
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I'm glad I got through transition while still being able to be a boy full time
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>>8166782
You pass fully as cis so don't worry about it. Id trade bodies in a heartbeat
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>>8166793
mah budd
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>>8166714
did you remember to do lewd stuff with him?
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>>8166725
what kinda podunk hicktown are you living in where there's a local swampy wilderness, and wild pigs run around?
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>>8166771
Well, on the plus side, with dreams like that, I don't need to read novels or watch movies.
Also had a big derealization moment this morning. I was shopping at the supermarket and Love Will Tear Us Apart began to play. Rather jarring at a supermarket in the first place. Ended up feeling elsewhere and elsewhen altogether, drowning in clubbing "memories". Definitely not mine. When I came back to my senses, the song was over. Either I stood looking into empty for that long or the song never played in the first place.
>>
>>8166784
The night is dark and full of terrors.
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>>8166814
Are you trying to get us to respond about your obviously feminine outfit?
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>>8166793
seppuku
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>>8166795
but you see how it makes passing in boymode impossible? cis women will wear very masculine outfits but never 'softly masculine' outfits (boat shoes n chinos e.g.)
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>>8166804
xd we still need to chat. I'd be cool today if you have time!

>>8166797
pharyngeal resonance is a type of additive harmonic that comes from the back of throat cavity. For all intents and purposes, it is essentially our formant control with the voice.

>>8166810
Well, head resonance is a meme. Head resonance exists in 3 places: oral, nasal, and pharyngeal. The "mask voice" that people always talk and meme about is actually a position that blends all of them to about, 50% pharyngeal, 20% oral, 30% nasal. When you make this sound it will feel like a crystal clear tone that has little in the "chest" (even though that is a misnomer).

A normal speaking voice is a healthy blend between all of these but primarily oral and nasal. Pharyngeal voice is something that will cissify your voice immediately.

Make an imaginary triangle and try to put all the sound in your nose, then your mouth, then the throat.
>>
I want to feel cute instead of bad everyday :(
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>>8166739
that doesn't exist in this hugbox
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>>8166793
Lobotomy probably would work. Really can't recommend that, obviously.
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tfw actually have boobs.
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>>8166832
I.. bought it all from the men's section
>>8166846
>tfw actually have a mouth to put over top of those breasts
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>>8166827
uh that could be literally anywhere from corpus christie tx to like, south carolina
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>>8166814
you're a big guy
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>>8166837
Currently working with my speech therapist on increasing nasal proportion without the result sounding typically nasal. The female voice I settled in on my own is too clear and breathy to my taste.
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>>8166839
just put a dress over it bro
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>>8166849
>>tfw actually have a mouth to put over top of those breasts

oh... oh geeze faye

are my nipples for sucking?
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>>8166811
i'd lol

>>8166827
i live in new orleans. you dont have to go far to get to the swamp.
there's also deer, coyotes, rabbits, a bunch of different kinds of snakes and spiders (a few that can kill you), alligators, turtles and my cousin, corn soup and his pal mr. caya
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>>8166837
i have a therapy appointment in like 20 minutes x-x
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>>8166837
But how do i make that pharyngeal resonance? I don't get it.
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>>8166861
o shit we have the same posture.
>>8166818
hiii!! how r u???
>>8166834
hmmmmm.
is there any way to feel happy like alive?
>>8166842
desu, not the worst idea senpaitachi.
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>>8166754
You're one of them
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>>8166835
yeah maybe

i don't know anything about fashion though

i have like 5 tshirts in rotation and that's it lol
>>
>>8166871
did you inform the therapist of the change of plan? don't want her blurting it out
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>>8166871
it's okay love! anytime later is cool. I'd be free our usual time tomorrow too. I just wanna rehash what we talked about last time and get you to record more so you can reference it with the document I give you.

>>8166858
For sure! Basically most blends will work as long as oral resonance is lowest.
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>>8166783
It used to until recently. It still does if I'm not in a wig.
>>8166792
All the chasers I've been with have never had a problem with my voice even though /mtfg/ says it doesn't pass. I don't disagree but I think there is a lower bar for sounding female than we think.
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>>8166765
Yes everyone probably benifits from ffs.

>>8166770
Well arent you special.
>>
>>8166877
can you perform a triple cross counter?
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>>8166883
im asking to talk to her alone first >>;

lil nervous
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>>8166880
hey nim, ask me which one of your t-shirts you should wear when evangeline comes to visit
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>>8166868
what if it tries to kill you right afterwards tho
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>>8166868
My home area has peat bogs, not swamps. Also, actual boars, not wild pigs. Wolves are slowly coming back too, we had completely gotten rid of them when I was a kid but they're protected now, unfortunately.
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Officially 2 years into HRT.
This comic is stunningly accurate tbqh
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>>8166900
I think I skipped right into the last one before I even started.
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>>8166877
having kind of a scary therapy appointment pretty soon >>;

>>8166885
okay i think that'll probably work

my mood has been pretty bad the last week or two so it's kind of affected my practicing x(
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>>8166895
hey anon which one of my tshirts should i wear when evangeline comes to visit
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>>8166846
I don't know that feel....
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>>8166900
True but edgy.
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>>8166907
none of them
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>>8166903
It was exactly as in the image for me.
Started out boymode, switched to "normal wuman", self-hatred/censorship, became really quiet, tried to act as toned-down and feminine as possible, then slowly slid into not giving a shit
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>>8166903
Same, I guess. I used to hang out with punk girls when I was in high school.
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>>8166878
duhh i know that.
>>8166890
i only know how to do the avoid eye contact and trip over words combo.
>>8166900
where are the not leaving bed episodes?
>>
>>8166914
w-woah
>>
is it ever good idea to meet a trip irl?
>>
>>8166922
For me those were included in the 2nd part
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>>8166924
Depends on the trip, I'd say.
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>>8166905
but you gpt this i mean just make the appt be not scary i don't know how but just do youbest you got this senpaitachi.
>>8166924
yeah desu
>>8166926
ohhhhhhhhh, wooo!
who /1styearforever/ here?
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Jill is one of my best and most successful vocal students. Hey Jill >>8166909, you should record your triangle resonance exercise for us all to hear! It's so wonderful. :)

Jill got a passable girl voice in like 2 hours of working with me, lmao.


>>8166876
Well I give private lessons. It's really hard to explain HOW to do something with your voice with text alone. Here is an old clyp of mine I've posted here with a demonstration: https://clyp.it/3nd5onef


>>8166887
>lower bar for sounding female than we think.
I've been saying this forever. First thing I tell any of my students and I have said many times on MTFG: pitch is not the primary element. It's resonance and formant.
>>
Tfw feeling really happy c:

>>8166924
Yes if you get a good vibe from them I guess it depends on how long youve known them but like any stranger just be careful.
>>
>>8166924
i can think of a few that seem sane enough

but i would probably avoid it given the thirst for dramatics here...
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>>8166924
My bf brags that he fell in love with a trip and that trip is me
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>>8166924
yes
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>>8166944
HA GAY
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>>8166924
Depends on the who and how well you know 'em.
>>
>>8166931
*blushes externally*
I will tonight I'm still at work !! :^)
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>>8166889
Yeah but >>8162786
I'm scared. Laverne Cox didn't get FFS, she's a famous actress now and it's not like she looks cis, she looks great but she'd look even better with FFS. She just said she got used to her face after spending so long not being able to afford it and can't be bothered anymore now that she can or something like that.
>>8166924
No because if you fall out they may doxx you.
>>8166931
I'll post my voice later if you're still around. Itdefinetly needs a lot of improvement but I'm surprised as to how satisfied everyone has been with my current gay male voice. Instead of VFS, I'm going to hire a voice coach, I have the money now. I wanted it to be you but I had issues with my paypal remember.
>>
>>8166957
>jilly bean
lewd
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>>8166898
idk nim it's a gator, chances are that if it tries to kill me it will.

>>8166899
well i say pigs but they are actually boars. huge fucking boars. scary as shit.

no wolves tho, thank goodness.

>>8166924
i met dollface. we hung out in new orleans. she was smelly and didn't wear any shoes.
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>>8166959
Awesome! I'd love to hear it. Best of luck with your vocal training.

> I wanted it to be you but I had issues with my paypal remember.
Yea! I remember. I actually do accept bitcoin now by the way. :)

>>8166957
<3_<3

btw all Jill is A CUTE.

>>8166966
lol
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>>8166830
You really need some EMDR. It's flashbacks like that, and emotion only flashbacks that I mostly got rid of. It made being out in public possible without having to be totally emotionally zeroed out.
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>when he holds you down and rips your pantyhose so he can fuck you violently
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>>8166924
Yeah
I got to scare pleb :3
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>>8166983
what a waste of money
>>
>>8166966

>i met dollface. we hung out in new orleans. she was smelly and didn't wear any shoes.

FIRST OF ALL BITCH
miss u
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>>8166986
Best spent 5 bucks ever. Pretend rape is hot as fuck.
>>
>>8166987
why dont you wear shoes?
>>
>>8166977
Those are not flashbacks, though, those memories can't be memories of mine. I've mostly gotten rid of PTSD flashbacks, takes being confronted with someone's possible or real suicide to bring those back, now.
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>>8166899
>boars
>>8166966
actually worry me more than bears and wolves. Bears are the hardest to kill, but if you injure them they have a 50% chance of running off. Wolves know if injured to slink away. Boars keep on attacking even if near death. This is why a boar spear has a cross bar down by the point. It's to keep the boar from climbing up the shaft.
>>
>>8166987
i miss u too come back to meeeeee
>>
>>8166987
>That man face on the left
>>
>>8166992
Have you been raped as a kid?
>>
>>8166987
>That man face on the left
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>>8167005
anonymous bullies are the lowest form of human scum.
>>
>>8167008
No
>>
anyone else wear fishnet leggings?
>>
>>8166997

i'm poor

>>8167004

I NEED TO i haven't seen u in literally 2-3 years?? like wtf

>>8167005
>>8167012

anna is qt af tyvm
>>
>>8167015
Why would anyone self-respecting ever do that?
>>
im anonymous but im not a bully
>>
>tfw looking up hard drives online and instead of "2TB", I type "2TBH"

heh
>>
>>8167013
Anon bullies are based as GOAT
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>>8167018
>anna is qt
Forgot you were into masculine looking woman
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>>8167026
me too
i only hurt myself
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>>8167020
>self-respecting women
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>>8166931
How much are your private lessons?
>>
>>8167018
yeah i think that was 3 years ago. come here and throw rocks at trains with me
>>
>>8167027
based...

>>8167031
based...
>>
>>8167013
>I don't like you because you were honest
>>
>>8167020
>self-respecting
>paid for a chett stink hole
>>
does any1 else wear actual fish nets as stockings
>>
>>8167029

fuck off lmao

>>8167034

imagine how many rocks we could throw
orrrrrrr you could come to new yorkkkkkkkkkk
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>>8166959
Wow what the actual shit.. didnt realise ffs could mess up so badly. Idk I guess if you feel comfortable with how you look more or less maybe holding off on ffs would be good.

Would save you alot at least.
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This branding is so bad it's gotta be ironic or malicious.
>>
>>8167041
>fuck off
Search your feelings.
You know it to be true
>>
>>8167040
No but I wear fishes
>>
>>8167041
idk if i'd be able to swing it, i already got trips to nashville and seattle planned in may and june.

i wanna go to new york tho fuck. real bad. i almost came last year. shiiit.
>>
>>8167000
Are you sure? Sounds like a triggered flashback to me. Flashbacks don't have to be from real memories. They can be from a jumble of memories and thoughts all merged together by the subconscious.

>>8167020
>>8167040
I've worn them as part of a devil lady costume. I had a red pair of hose on underneath.
>>
making pizza don't let me forget please ;~;
>>
>>8167046
common term used to be std
>>
>>8166966
idk i think you're selling yourself short anne
>>
my lifes a fucking joke so i bully tripfags.

I hate myself.

I need to kill myself to better humanity
>>
>>8167032
My rates are currently at $60 per hour session. I started lower but got absolutely swamped and had to raise price to lower demand. I'm considering upping my price again but right now $60/hour is where I am.
>>
>>8167063
you're making pizza don't forget
>>
>>8167071
>$60/hr
Holy shit
What a fucking jew
>>
>>8167075
I tend to burn them :\
>>
>>8167068
u dont understand the power of nature
>>
>>8167081
it's called the free market, baby

people pay it, so she charges it
>>
>>8167081
Any voice therapist in my area is $150+ for 50 minutes.
>>
I shouldn't have done the faceapp :'/
>>
>>8167086
you seem to not understand how eating tons of food makes you fat you fat piece of shit.
>>
>>8167086
but what about the power of believing in yourself
>>
>>8167070
Pls bully me
>>
https://clyp.it/uedaznwi
>>
>>8167082
i burn mine a lil but it's still tasty when the crust isn't burned
>>
>>8167097
i dont wanna
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>>8167081
You realize speech pathologists that don't even have a specialty in transgender voice charge $100+ hour minimum right? I have expertise in voice pedagogy, linguistics, acoustics, and vocal anatomy. In addition, I have actually LIVED the transgender voice experience.

I am told numerous times a week that my prices are STILL too low.
>>
>>8167102
once I forgot for like 2 hours
>>
>>8167070
>>8167098
no bully pls
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>>8167081
If you went to a professional speech therapist you would likely be paying 2-3 times that much.
$60 is a bargain

>>8167097
You're a doodoo head
>>
>>8167095
im underweight.

>>8167096
OH NOW YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT BELIEVING IN URSELF??
>>
>>8167107
most tran girls seems to be in poverty conditions so it seems okay
>>
>>8167114
wtf does that mean ANNE
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>>8167098
chill the heck down
>>
>>8167107
I wish I had any money and wasn't too scared.
>>
>>
>>8166972
wtf am I being bullied/??
>when a cute girl calls you cute
I'm blushing again

>>8167107
Can confirm very worth the price
>>
>>8167108
same x(
>>
>>8167118
u dont believe in urself
>>
>>8167107
And they are Jews as well.
Anyone with some thinking skills can research on how to practice their voice
>>
>>8167126
how do you know
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>>8167098
>post something cute please
also, your voice is really hot
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my breasts are very tender today.

growing pains!! yay
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>>8167119

>mfw

>>8167132

i literally just made
the loudest shriek of joy
i've ever made
this is the greatest gift i've ever been given omg i want 48 kittens R I G H T N O W
>>
>sitting in therapist waiting room
>mom pulls out her phone and starts watching a video
>first thing out of her phone is "MOMMY, WHY IS YOUR TUMMY SO SQUISHY?"
w-what is my mom watching
>>
how to practice voice when every time I try I end up crying
>>
>>8167137
are you coming out to her today?
>>
>>8167098
Was that your brother speaking or some gay friend of yours?
>>
>>8167111
... How could you be so cruel ;_;
>>
>>8167137
are you still planning on telling her whats up?
>>
>>8167114
You're fat and you fuck your dog

>>8167110
Excuse me...who are you?
>>
>>8167129
>Anyone with some thinking skills can research on how to practice their voice

Think so? I'd love to hear your voice then since you certainly having thinking skills. Certainly you have awesome results to back up all that talk.
>>
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>>8167133
My girlfriend has a discharge phobia it's actually really depressing, she won't feel me up ever now. They're always discharging when squeezed. Grosses me out a bit, but they're getting big quick.


>>8167137
Anyone older than 35 watches nothing but bullshit omg just bullshit.
>>
>>8167107
You're way beyond affordable to me now but I was looking up private voice therapists in the UK and you're... actually very, very cheap for this service.
>>
>>8167142

that was my boyfriend, we just finished having homosexual intercourse
>>
>>8167140
>>8167144
i don't think so, we'll see..

im going in any minute now..
>>
>>8167147
tfw no discharge from my nips
>>
>>8167122
Yet you won't post your voice

>>8167146
Just look up YouTube and you can find a shit ton of information.
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>>8167131
because i see what u post here and give you a -_-
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>>8167152
Do your best Nim.
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>>8167154
Not to be insulting but if you say this is all so easy, post a clyp of yours too!
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>>8167146
How did you learn? Internet research? Upload a new clip, your old one sound like a fake anime girl. I'm not even bully posting, I just really wasn't impressed. At least not a minimum 120 dollars for results impressed.
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>>8167150
>actually very, very cheap for this service.
Yeah and I even started at $30 per hour / $15 per half hour.

In fact, I still have a few legacy students that I allow to pay at the rate they started at ($30).
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>>8167154
>Just look up YouTube and you can find a shit ton of information.

But I asked you to post your voice. I didn't ask you to tell me where to find resources. You said anyone with a brain can teach themselves a proper girl voice technique by doing research.

So have you not done this research? Or do you not have a brain? If neither, then logically you should have a pretty great female voice.
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ok i feel a little better now ty girls
what's up with the anon bullying today tho
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>>8167152
Good Luck! I hope everything goes well

>>8167145
Am Ribbons, Am new.
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>>8167167
The usual suspects online.
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Fuck off rawr
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>>8167167
i don't know but i am ot being bullied and this is concerning.
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>>8167160
I did a video on explaining how to achieve a female voice
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ro2R3esHA
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>>8167177
No You
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>>8167136
ikr?
There is a kids show here called kittentv and it's just random play sets like castles and doll houses with kittens climbing all over them and each other and generally being adorable. It's so cute I usually start crying when I watch it.
This isn't it, but moar kittens!

>>8167143
idk, how could you have so much doodoo on your head?
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>>8167167
it's elanna dropping trip
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>>8167173
>>8167179
>>8167187

hmm

>>8167181

lol if that's actually you, use your old trip

>>8167186

;___; they're so soft and fluffy and cuteee i want alLLL OF THEMMMJIKMRELAKNA
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>>8167164
>pulls back zhennas hair and bits her neck lightly so she stops paying attention to trolls
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>>8167190
I can't remember that trip.
It's been a long time since I've been to this desolate wasteland
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I feel broken
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>>8167187
Why the fuck would I drop trip to talk shit, I start shit all the time
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>>8167204
there's only cute trips here right now though, none of your usual targets
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Here's the truth about voice
https://clyp.it/ngwzyzsz
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I might try tonight. I was so close!

>>8167203

Everyone's broken somewhere.
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I wish I could ever look like a girl
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>>8167213
don't try to force it
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>>8167209
>there's only cute trips here right now
>>8167194
????
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>>8167223
>trips
you were even getting autistic about this distinction the other day
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I've never seen a frog like this in New York.
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>haven't redid my drivers license yet
>fully refused alcohol this time
Well fuck my life, i just walkes a mile for nothing
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If my tits turn out looking like utter dogshit after several years should I just go for the implants meme. I don't want to look trashy I just want like a normal cis girl's boob size and my family genetics might not help me here.

I also don't know shit about breast implants.
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>>8167187
based
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>>8167209
i'm here and neither senpaitachi
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>>8167228
It's camouflaged for city life. Changes in skin color can happen fast if the rudiments are already there.
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>>8167209
I'm here , I'm queer, and I look like a bunch of industrial waste in a vaguely humanoid shape so no, it's not just cute trips.
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>>8167209
>ribbons
>cute

L.ao hes a hon
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>When he likes you but you don't like him
not a nice situation
what do
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>>8167227
Fff I'm moving the goalposts don't ruin this for me
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>>8167231
Get the gummy bear implants and do it in the armpit crease for minimal scarring. It's $7000 but knowing mtfg money shouldn't be an object for your rich ass.
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>>8167231
Look into under the muscle implants. They tend to give a more natural look.
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>>8167203
You need pets.

>>8167216
Same but thats life. At least we can get somewhere close.

>>8167228
Looks poisonous.
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>>8167236
stop posting

>>8167241
You are an ugly hon
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>>8167161
Gladly!
Here is a clean, nice recording from two months ago: https://clyp.it/52kkcx0z

Here is right now:
https://clyp.it/cwueecsw

How did I learn? Well I have a musical background of 10 years and a degree in music. I synthesized my own technique through research in vocal anatomy, acoustics, and linguistics. I teach my OWN technique.
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>>8167244
those are months away
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>>8167241
That's what I did
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>>8167247
You're a bitch
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>>8167239
Maybe I'm bad at handing it but I try talking less and less and being less receptive, sometimes they take the hint. I am not one for confrontation of saying "No I don't like you please stop having feelings" because that just hurts both parties alot in my experience.
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>>8167217

Well, you know, it's like the same thing it was with my mom.

I'm happy when I think of myself as a girl. I feel more comfortable, confident, it's like I'm a completely different person. So I want my family to know I'm in a good place, and hey, being called a girl would be a nice bonus. I don't want to hide this from them
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>>8167246
yawn
>>
is hospitalization always bad idea?
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>elanna gets attacked randonly
>faye shows up all of a sudden

hmm
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>>8167241
>knowing mtfg money shouldn't be an object for your rich ass.
???????????????????????????
what the fuck are you talki
>Kayla !!sLz+fwCdMOg
nevermind
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>>8167247
I gotta comment on that first one's audio quality because gosh that is so clean and clear, what microphone were you using for that? The voice is good too hehe I am just real impressed with the quality of the recording
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>>8167247
I know that second clip is cheating because it's all excited exclamations that raise your pitch

You're going to need to do another one where you tell me I've been a really really bad boy
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>proper are being mean
>nobody is mean to me
s=reee stop this
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>>8167248
Whats months away?

>>8167254
No
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>>8167255
I start crap with my trip on, I don't need to drop it to say something to that human death spiral of a man
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how do you tell a girl that in order for you to be able to truly love her she needs to be a sword
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>>8167249
dont feed Kayla
you and I both know that you overdosed on prolactin
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>>8167264
>37 year old late transitioning chaser calling anyone else a man
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>>8167264

>a man
glass houses
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>>8167216
Iktf
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what type of dipping sauce should I eat with tater tots
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>>8167262
headpats
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>>8167272
I often dip them in bbq sauce.
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>>8167194
you know me.... I'm always taking the bay(t)e. :\

>>8167250
???
>claim you are smart thus you have a good voice
>refuse to share voice
>ask for my voice
>I give a real time clip and a clean recording
>I'm a bitch

XD

>>8167259
I do a fair bit of studio work. That recording was done with a AKG Perception 220 into a Presonus BlueTube Preamp.

>>8167260
https://clyp.it/ltwaqaqx
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>>8167264
lmfao ok hon
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>>8167251
I still enjoy talking to him and want to remain friends with him though, just without the attraction part
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>>8167272
KETCHUP
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>>8167231
u can get normal looking implants not all implants need to be gross huge baloon tier
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faye is naughty
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So, does anyone want to read the WIP of my novel?
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>>8167259
I have to agree. It really makes me want to buy a microphone because my laptops built in one is pathetic which is a given, but still.
>>8167247
I love your voice
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>>8167274
Oh that sucks
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>>8167261
>>proper are being mean
>>nobody is mean to me
nice autocorrect, pleb

might like CHEB though (because you're chebby)
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>>8167288
YES, but only if you read my terrible one too. Just kidding i wouldnt make anyone suffer that but sure ill read it if you dont mind.
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am so sad today :(
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>>8167279
>https://clyp.it/ltwaqaqx
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>>8167294
:(
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>>8167307
me too
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>>8167279
I gave up on voice training
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>>8167304


I don't mind reading a fellow authors work!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wuLc_GlYD71HBOfXWRLx3Y_Q_Vu2_yMxlnGundOIKHE/edit?usp=sharing
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>>8167289
>I love your voice

:3
thanks love. It's constantly changing and improving. I got a new side job where I work a cashier and talk to customers for ~12 hours a week or so. I intentionally got the job so I could practice my voice more. It's a really fantastic learning experience.

I experiment with the RANGE of what works as a female voice. I find maybe, generally, I'm still trending too high. The way I teach voice is as a modular instrument so the student gains control over all aspects and understands what is creating each part of the sound so the pupil can evolve and troubleshoot their voice going forward into the future.

It's like the "teach a girl to fish vs giving fish." kinda thing.
>>
>>8167311
Ill give you headpats for free if you promise to headpat me too.
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>>8167279
Thank you! That mic is a little too large for what I'd like near my desk, but good to know what I'd need to get that level of quality to record mine with. I just got a Samson Meteor to better record and train my own voice (maybe someday under your lessons...), and its doing the job well enough so far.

>>8167281
I managed to keep mine around as friends even after outright shooting him down, I think the reaction is very up to an individual basis. Some people can make it work being just friends with someone they had feelings for, some people want to be as far away as they can. Best of luck to you if you talk to him about it, losing friends always stinks.
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Oh god my voice actually makes me embarrassed to hear
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0azQkZJoTHx
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>>8167316
Do you have like discord or skype or something? dont really wana post the whole thing easier to post a small bit of it.
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>>8167301
wow i don't even have ac on i just type fast rn and go back to r9k sadpostan and telling people that bdd doesn't real
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make my voice gooder ok https://clyp.it/c3k4qfg1
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>>8166314
>Steven Joseph
she transitioned recently though
was a surprise actually, I used to see those vids as a teen, looked them up recently and they're about to get SRS and look pretty different
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>>8167315
Are you this person though: >>8167129??

You gave up on your voice? :thinking:

If you aren't that anon, why give up?

>>8167309
:X

>>8167320
Definitely! You can get pretty good quality for cheap. I suggest a small or large diaphragm condenser microphone. Do note that these require phantom power from an interface or preamp source.

Dynamic microphones (like the Shur SM57) can work but you will require much more input gain so be aware of that if you record with one.
>>
i'm scared
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>>8167279
SAVED
>>8167270
I say I am, but when I passed by the little girl at the police obstacle course test and she said she was glad to see a girl this time, I figured maybe that's not how the world reacts to me

Still a boy ofc tho tbqh
>>
https://clyp.it/mbvwvxnz
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>>8167320
>I managed to keep mine around as friends even after outright shooting him down
Is it awkward at all? That's something I'm worried about, that it will be awkward and just slowly die off
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>>8167343

elanna lives as a woman too though and actually has a vagina.
for someone who lectures about transmisogyny being awful and in favor of feminism etc you sure do misgender other people and devalue their identity a lot. really makes ya think.
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>>8167335
Hard to tell, record more. This sounds like it starts in falsetto and goes into a mixed voice or something. A bit strange.

>>8167344
Honestly I think it sounds pretty decent. More formant change and perhaps a slight increase in pitch. Pitch wise though I think even THAT is in the acceptable range of a female speaker.
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>>8167337
That isn't me
I gave up because my voice was severely damaged through trecha shave
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>>8167336
>they're about to get SRS
Why why why arrrrrg i deserve srs god fucking damn it
>>
>>8167318
I'm working as a cashier too and also use it as an opportunity to practice. It's probably the only thing I like about my job.
>>
https://clyp.it/br4jeaoz
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>>8167351
zheanna rate my voice i need someone to tear me down
>>8167321
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>>8167356
My other vocal crush <3
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>>8167359
it's just a boy voice
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>>8167351
thanks zhe

i haven't worked on my voice at all, but i was in choir when i was younger (i sang baritone in hs choir lol)

i think i'm gonna go pedal my butt off for a bit, i can't feel worse and it'll make up for all the cookies i'm eating
>>
Hello yall :D How is everyone doing?
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>>8167350
Not very much, she called me a male today as well so I'm sure that's just our thing now
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>>8167353
rmber ur bf is going to leave you as soon as you book srs. rmber hes going to buy you that cock ring promise ring to promise never to cut off miss cock
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>>8167361
its a starting point before i can actually make the money i need to start voice coaching

obviously some kinds of boy voices have it easier than others
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>>8167364
crying again
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>>8167372
start training now you while you wait for voice coaching
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>>8167370
Do those really exsist?
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>>8167366

.........BUT YOU IDENTIFY AS A MAN LMAO
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>>8167381
>falling for a faye meme
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>>8167364
sad mostly

waiting to hear back from one house but i need to make up my mind where i'm gonna move and contact people

mostly just eating cookies today (i did send flowers to someone in the hospital though, that was well received)
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>>8167352
Oh, okay sorry!

Dang, I don't know much about trachea shaves or your particular issue so I can't give you any advice. I'm not sure you'd have to give up vocal training but it depends on the issue. The trachea is not part of the dynamic vocal parts. Truthfully the tracheal tree is hard body structure we have little control over and only serves as a passage way for mechanical sound waves.

now if your laryngeal area was damaged then you'd have a big issue.

>>8167355
It's kinda fun. But then again, I've never worked a """"Real"""" job till this point in my life (25). I have always been self employed. This is a good experiment for me to be on schedules and interact with people more.

>>8167359
Well I am not familiar with your dialect.

But over than that, it does sound pretty much like a boy voice. Not a bad starting point though. We all start from some male voice.

Here was what I sounded like 10 months ago vs 2 months ago: https://clyp.it/v5huuxab
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>>8167373
Hugg :(
>>
>>8167381
I do it in a cultural way, like how minorities can call themselves certain words , but that doesn't mean you can

Don't assume my gender
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Today i realized how i am...

Seeing all my fruends from high school and im just a dumb crazy autistic repressed tranny dreaming about being a girl that works 12 hours a day hoping to one day die alone in a trailer. Dreaming of my one lover but the world doesnt work like that.

I should kill myself
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>>8167378
not rly but its just meant as a reminder from her bf if she cuts off her dick he is going to drop her and go find someone else to fuck his ass
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>>8167370
I doubt he would turn down the chance to fuck a newly minted vag
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>faye is a gender confused person that rampages against trans-misogyny but misgenders a girl who has lived full time for years and has a vagina.

really makes ya think
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>>8167384
Are you being made to move? What kind of cookies are you eating?
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>>8167345
It doesn't seem all too awkward no, it kinda was at first because the news brought him to tears but it calmed down and we can have normal conversation again. Again I can't say how your guy is going to handle it, but hopefully he handles it well.

>>8167385
Zhe, are your lessons over skype? Just sorta wondering where I could ask you about them later in private
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>>8167376
I legitimately don't know how to train on my own.

I've seen people call the reddit link in the OP basically a meme.

>>8167385
Yeah it's very much a boy voice, I am simply trying to figure out how difficult this will be for me.

In general I have a bizarre pathological fear of starting new things and I'm trying to work through this psychological nonsense so I can start properly thinking about how to organise my training.
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>>8167390
>waaaah only I may call myself a man
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>>8167395
But he called me a man, what does an inside out sterile penis have to do with that?
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>>8167390
i just assume ur an intersexy enby desu

>>8167396
i made vegan chocolate chip cookies last night that i have no one to share with

i want to move, this place didn't really work out and the sublease is over end of the month

the best place in the best location is also the most affordable but i haven't heard from them... there's two people on the other side of the freeway in a more suburban part of town that isn't horrible but not really where i want to be and at the top end of my budget to choose from otherwise
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>>8167398
>Zhe, are your lessons over skype? Just sorta wondering where I could ask you about them later in private

Yes. I teach over Skype. Feel free to add my work Skype @ Dreamsura
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>tfw Found out my friend has been in the hospital a few days. Nobody bothered to tell me about it.

>>8167356
Damn, I don't have a mic on this computer. Mine is far more manly, and constantly hoarse from irritation.

>>8167373
*hugs* been my day too...
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Faye is annoying and an entire decade older than me and I'm probably just going to filter her name because fake Fayes and the real one are all annoying as shit and I hope she fucking dies.
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>>8167406
Faye stop bullying my waifu
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>>8167392
I have never topped him and have no intention to ever top anyone
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>>8167396
here's a cookie pic >>8165754
>>
HAET FAMBLY
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>>8167419
>>8167419
>>8167419
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>>8167406
as if the skin surface is ever sterile.
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>>8167398
>brought him to tears
what a baby lol
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>>8167436
Online love when you've never seen their face is srs bsns!!
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>>8167385
I sound like a chain smoker now
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