post-/blanchardgen/

>>8108552

Literally who the fuck are artposter and BDD-chan?

I know artposter is the person always posting art and is one of Caraposter's enablers, but when the fuck has she ever talked about her problems in detail? BDD-chan is that commie/anti-fa/whatever but I barely remember her story beyond her transitioning at 15.

>>8108566
only cara and blanchardanon are relevant so what does it matter

>>8108552
Regret it, it helped me think of moving ahead

>>8108609

So you regret being able to move on?

>>8108552
This is only the beginning, the next step is to take over the mainstream.

>>8108613
No but it was a place to talk about stuff and that helped

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>>8108552
was a stupid meme since the beggining, and finally is dying now.

>>8108637

Do you mean Blanchard-gen? Was that ever actually a thread?

>>8108663
not really, but a lot of cara threads ended up with a usually completely off-topic discussion of the agp/hsts dichotomy, and figuring out where some people fall on the spectrum.

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>>8108552
everyone else has kind of abandoned me here and i don't know what to do now

>>8108788

Shouldn't have been stalking Nicole, should you? What was your GPA before you got kicked out, by the way?

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>>8108809
that's not what i was talking about.
i never said anything about having done all this for their sake and that's why i was sad that they left me. i was here before they ever were.

>>8108672
>>8108788
We can still pan happy painless ways to suicide before I go fully gangrenous

>>8108825

I mean you would be free to leave /lgbt/ when you pleased if you hadn't stalked Nicole in the first place. A college student has many higher priorities than posting here.

Now really, what was your GPA?

>>8108552
everyone is fucked up and wrong and i need to save them

>>8108788
So you're not getting mones?

>>8108552
Don't worry I still have plenty of problems to sadpost with, I try not to often cause I get accused of "navel gazing" when I do.

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>>8108878
the person who was helping me doesn't talk to me and purposely keeps me in the dark about what they're doing, they egg me on and say that they've been in contact people irl around me for months but refuse to tell me what's about to happen to me.

>>8108863
why does it matter to you so much?

>>8108788
How about you get off you ass and start affecting change in the trans community?

>>8108788
I mean the best advice I can give to you is trying to find away to live for yourself. Flip burgers, case work, temp jobs. Until you find a place that gives you health benefits then move to California or a state the health care mandates transgender care. Become a qt and profit.

>>8108878
>>8108928
cara's gofundme will be up, with any luck, by the end of next week
i didn't have a source of income until recently so i had no reason to have a bank account or paypal, and i'm having issues with my bank that will require seeing them in person, so i need to sort those out before i make a paypal and thus a gofundme
i am aiming for high transparency with this so cara does not get upset that i am withholding information
the radio silence i have on both /tttt/ and sc isn't related to any actions on cara's end, it's my own issues

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>caraposter actually not roleplaying and talking about her life

holy shit what

this is the end of an era

>>8108928

I'm wondering if you were heading towards dropping out anyway because of tranny depression. I would figure you were since you have such an obsession with early transitioners. And you can only really progress and leave this place taking the college route if you're at least making Bs in every class, after all.

Also, considering you always made vague allusions in the beginning, the fact that's all you get now in return does not bother me.

>>8108953
I'll honestly be so sad if /tttt dies, but it feels inevitable at this point.

>>8108972
It obviously won't die, it's just a new chapter
In fact I dare say the board has been more active lately

>>8108980
If Blanchard anon / Cara / other bddchan leave I'll have no reason to keep posting though. Everything else is pretty shit desu

>>8108998
agreed

>>8108998
Eh, my only interest here is helping transgirls, I have more interesting boards and generals on /vg/ for shitposting

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>>8109013
4chan as a whole is shit. The only reason I like this place is because it has some intelligent / interesting people that are trans and also don't subscribe to some form of tumblr ideology. This is literally the only place I can talk about trans related stuff, i have no friends irl that understand my pain / what i'm trying to accomplish. I'll be sad when this place dies but I know it's for the better.

>>8109082
This, yesterday I was defending cara of all people because there is no place on the internet with simulating discussion about trans experiences. There are no anons that are worse than tumblr shits who want this place to be a safe space

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>>8108971
yes
i was already on my way out of university starting at the beginning of the fall semester
but i can't really talk on here about what's happened there.

>>8108953
Cara is always talking about her life, where have you been?
>>8108998
This

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>>8109113
I mean I'll be the first to admit cara is mean as fuck sometimes for no real reason but that doesn't change the fact that I still want them to transition. But yeah so far every mtf / ftm I ever meet outside of /tttt is some variant of a tumblr shit or extremely cringey.

>>8109117

So what were you planning on doing if you were a flaming plane undeniably destined for wreckage the ground anyway? Surely your parents would have gotten mad with you over that as well, even if not to the point of disowning you.

Also, when you first arrived here and you asked how to get a trans girlfriend, I asked you a question, which you answered with a requirement that your relationship with the girl be non/asexual. You probably don't remember it, as I barely remember the details myself, but my impression of you then, because of your insistence on asexuality and dating a trans girl, was that you were a crazy, repressed tranny. Ironically, as time went on and you insisted you weren't trans, I stopped believing that and saw you as an extremely odd cis male. It is only relatively recently (within the past two weeks) that I began to accept that you are trans again.

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I honestly feel like I'll never get what I want. I'm tired.My ability to function was declining either anyway.

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>>8109202
Noo bdd chan please don't kill yourself if that's what you are implying, you are my second favorite poster on this board, you can't give up.

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>>8109209
That wasn't even me. But yeah I'm probably going to attempt again this week, I'm probably quitting the board also. This used to be a place for my nudes to be validated and for me to feel good, I used to ERP with guys who didn't know anything about this trans bizz, but now it's taken over my life. And today my friend got really mad at me for entertaining some of the beliefs that I've picked up here. I'm just kind of a failure in every aspect, yeah you guys have pretty much convinced me that Eli Erlick looks weird, but not only do I look weird, I'm also not even famous, don't even have a Wikipedia article, which is like entry level fame bizz, nor have I helped any trans people really at all. So she's still a better person than me, even if she looks weird.

I think I'm just going to try and convince myself that 25k (or more) is just too much money for FFS to be an attainable goal, and that suicide is the answer. But then I'll probably fuck that up too.

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>>8109243
I know it's not you i'm referring to the "femboy" bddchan. I don't know you / your story as well as
other bddchan's but there is more to life besides some form of fame / passing, even though from the picture i've seen of you you seem to pass fine / seem to mostly struggle with bdd. I hope I haven't contributed to your depression around passing, I didn't mean to if I did.

This place is honestly a dysfunctional mess of a board and I know it's negatively effected my mental health at times, I'm sure everyone here would probably be better off not visiting this place / finding different outlets for expressing what's bothering them.


Please don't kill yourself.

>>8109256
Is femboy bddchan the one who occasionally posts about TERF Jesus and how he (allegedly) harasses femgen?

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>>8109256
>even though from the picture i've seen of you you seem to pass fine / seem to mostly struggle with bdd

Idk about that, most people on here think I'm an ugly hon though. And I'm not allowed in true early transitioner discussions anymore, which is why it would have been better to transition at 14 with Dr. Maddie Deutsch, just for that extra cred. But I screwed that up, and now I'm ugly and pretty much the same as a creepy late transitioner, which sucks. I used to get complimented on here, but I think that era is over. I think I'm mostly going to discuss my life-changing (or -ending) decisions with my IRL peeps from now on, I think they have a more nuanced view of the situation.

>>8108788
>lead a bully club around /lgbt/
>pass your time by malignantly trolling others
>generally be an awful person to everyone for no reason
>posts sad animu pictures and complain when people start getting angry at you

Do you see how you have invited this upon yourself? If you was just nice to other people for once then you wouldn't have this problem.

>>8109581
I think they're talking about rv-chan

>>8109617
I'm 12 and who is rv-chan?

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>>8109630
she's pic related (ip is not mine, i saved this from another post)
she's the 'femboy' anon who calls her dysphoria bdd and posts a lot about how all agp women are evil rapist hons and how bathroom bills are a good idea because it'll prevent her and other hstses from getting raped by evil rapist hons

>>8109657
>already passes better than me without hormones

Jeez I really am hopeless. And her politics are better than mine too.

>>8109661
she's been on hormones for a while, though she's long term boymode because of actual-bdd

>>8109665
What is actual-bdd opposed to what I have though? More crippling?

>>8109669
what you primarily have is full blown transsexualism/gender dysphoria, where you see your body as it really is but it distresses you because you want it to be the opposite sex
body dysmorphic disorder/bdd, which you also have, is where you see your body inaccurately because you notice tiny flaws and think they're all-consuming and much bigger than they really are
transsexualism is treated by transition, bdd is treated by therapy (i know you can't have actual therapy, but you can do the stuff they use to treat bdd by yourself)

wtf in what thread did cara admit to being trans? I must have missed this

>>8109714
she never specifically admitted to it, she just sort of eventually realized that repression wasn't working out

>>8109717
she should make a big coming out thread already
it'd get stickied immediately and become one of the most posted-in /lgbt/ threads of all time

>>8109657
Please take down. You're going to cause me problems. I didn't trust people with that for this.

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>>8109585
>I'm ugly and pretty much the same as a creepy late transitioner,
>>8109958
You really shouldn't make allusions to killing yourself

>>8109657
That isn't exactly what I said. I said that if we/I are turn out to be illegit and nothing more than depraved crossdressers(I don't but you get the idea) , then we don't deserve to be treated well. Maybe the laws are what we deserve and maybe they are meant to keep abusive people from doing anything horrible.

I don't want them for my protection or consider myself legit. I will never think of myself as female. I won't transition and I will obey the laws.
>>8109665
I never took hrt regularly or above 2mg, I stopped taking it for personal reasons a good while back, the only thing I will always need is some sort of blocker and I've always used spiro or cypro since I knew how to get them.

>>8110502
>>8109209
I'm not going to kill myself right now. just said I'll never be happy and I'll probably have a breakdown soon enough a year at most and I'll end up institutionalized or just dead from my hands.

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>>8110687
I believe in you bddchan2 I think you can find some form of happiness in life and realize / actualize your goals.

>>8108866
trent?

>>8110502
Why did you quote me and then quote someone else and not address what I said

>>8110674
You should just get back on mones, you already look better than me so I'm sure you'll be fine. It's not good to repress and miss out on socialization time.

>>8111166
Because I'm a late transitioner by /tttts standard and that quote made me feel like the picture I attached.

>>8109657
gross

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>>8109657
What were you thinking Blanchard. Posting this stuff when it's just going to cause harm. Am I now some sort of project like Cara?

>>8113321
>tfw ywn be a project

>>8111122
yes
>>8113321
i don't experience empathy to any meaningful degree so idk

>>8113813
How can you say that when you are helping Cara transition? That doesn't seem true.

>>8108552
>Cara is getting mones
This is too good to be true, do you have a screencap?

>>8113813
Yeah, I'd better not trust people. You've gone and outed people like Cara before. I'm not actually hurting anybody asides from spouting what's mostly just self loathing. But it's happening.

>>8114077
Cara outed themselves.

>>8114114
how

>>8114077
I don't think that's a fair comparison

>>8114145
why not?

>>8113813
Wow, what a cunt, I can't believe Cara still talks to you.

>>8114180
lol Blanchard anon is obviously psychologically abusing Cara

>>8114180
>and was also intentionally trying to derail Cara from transitioning.
who else intentionally tries to derail transitions?

>>8114220
I shouldn't of been that harsh but I literally don't know anything about that. I don't talk to Cara or Blanchard anon outside of these threads.
>>8114231

Why are you asking me as if I should know the answer to that?

>>8114180
Just so you know >>8114151 Isn't me. And you're right. What I said was supposed to be aimed at me I'm supposed to be one of the bad people, not you. This stuff must seem like it's aimed at you, I wrote thinking about what I need. I'm sorry.

But still, I've said it could hurt IRL if people saw my pics, especially in all this context. That's disproportionate punishment. I didn't think people would care enough to pull them out of unsee. Or that they'd still be posting them. It's going to hurt me for sure if people see this. I trusted you all.

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>>8108788
i keep asking to be ur friend but u never respond

offer is ALWAYS up

>>8114276
anon are you underage? you give off a serious 14 year old tumblr teen vibe and don't really participate a lot in discussion, but you're in all of these threads

>>8114270
I mean they were in what was supposed to be a secured site, but that did no good. And once somebody sees this and tells everyone, most will just be disgusted and want nothing to do with me and the ones who aren't disgusted will hate me and start retaliating over what was supposed to be self hate in some anonymous board.

>>8114286
I purposely choose not to associate any identity with my views, so I like to change up my posting style.

>>8114294
then take it out on blanchard anon, seeing as they're the one who has been spreading it around

>>8114270
Yeah I'm sorry that was harsh. I admit I also say transphobic / fucked up stuff sometimes too and I don't think you mean half of the stuff you say. I also feel bad about this because I encouraged you to post a pic cause I was curious / wanted to put a face to your posts even though I knew this would probably happen, obviously that backfired for you. Sorry

>>8114320
then how can you ask cara to be your friend if you don't even make recognizable posts on an anonymous animu website?

>>8114326
this. blanchard anon, stop posting photos of people online without their permission. that's like basic internet safety 101. autism is not an excuse.

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>>8114336
jeez, its not like im asking for a date

and the last person i added from here seemed to like me pretty fast! although i wish he would stop being so annoyingly sexual....

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>>8114326
I was breaking from bdd anyways, knowing I might have a chance made it easier to keep going. I didn't think anyone would care enough to screenshot or associate them with who I am.
>>8114336
Don't bother, this all happened because people finally got tired of my venom.

>>8114363
will you talk to someone who isn't cara?

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>>8114363
My snapchat is cara.kun
add me there

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>>8114401
yes of course!

>>8114404
im too much of a loser for snapchat
got something else?

>>8114414
what do you have?

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>>8114447
uhhh skype, steam, emaaail

im not social enough for phone stuff

>>8114456
throwaway email?

>>8114476
[email protected]

>>8109585
>>8109243
>I'm ugly and pretty much the same as a creepy late transitioner
>I used to get complimented on here
>This used to be a place for my nudes to be validated and for me to feel good
And you wonder why people think you're annoying and full of yourself? You're an idiot if you ever thought you were any less degenerate than any other tranny.

>>8114214
>>8114220
>>8114231
huh? i was doing offline stuff so i missed all these posts
>>8114336
>>8114326
sorry
i saved the picture from someone else in a thread where i didn't see rv-chan making any comments to the effect of 'i don't want this spread around'

>>8114483
Why are people accusing you of psychologically abusing cara?

>>8114506
i don't know
probably because i just admitted to not having empathy, which is pretty much the worst thing you can ever admit and makes everyone hate you forever
do you have a copy of the post that got deleted?

>>8114515
empathy is a valuable skill

i'd suggest taking the time to learn it

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>>8114506
they've tried to use resources (once) in real life to purposely try to hurt me and incapacitate me
but that doesn't matter now and all is forgiven

>>8114237
I think they mean Cara tried to get people to repress.

>>8114528
What happened? Why do you still talk to them?

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>>8114533
that's a secret, sorry.

>>8114515
It was mine just look on the archives it's not even that important. Answer me this how can you be so invested in someone transitioning but also not feel empathy?

>>8114537
Oops >>8114537 is me

>>8114537
idk
i have extremely little insight into my own thoughts and actions
also can people please stop calling me 'they', it's 'he'

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>>8114482
It's fine, I don't think I ever told you. Nobody has treated me differently yet. So if people have seen they haven't told out of pitty. If they see in this context and see just how insane I am, then they might decide I deserve to be outed for everything.
>>8114515
You've been trying to help people so you obviously have empathy. I just went too far.

And the post has nothing bad about you at all.

>>8114515
>>8114506
>I don't care that you have no empathy, but it's very obvious that you got off leaking Cara's stuff without her consent, some months back, and I remember Cara herself turning against you at one point for misleading her.

>>8114533
Trent tried to protect one of Cara's victims.

>>8114551
I'm sorry, that isn't me. And it's my fault for not having told you. I'd thought you were tired of my shit and decided to retaliate.

>>8114564
Are you talking about Commie-chan?

>>8114557
>bddchan2
You tried to prevent cara from transitioning? why?

>>8114551
I don't believe that. Just because you are autistic doesn't mean you don't possess empathy on some level.

>>8114557
okay
>>8114560
i don't 'get off on it'
cara has told me not to post certain things before and i've complied with that
i post[ed] cara's stuff on the board when relevant to ensure transparency and keep people in the loop

>>8114568
I didn't actually. I don't talk to them and the only thing I've done so far is say they need Cypro.

But I throw venom everywhere, maybe it hurts people even if it isn't aimed at them.

>>8114573
>to ensure transparency and keep people in the loop
???

>>8114570
there's more than autism, it's just that for various reasons that's the only thing officially and consistently diagnosed (aside from trans)

>>8114567
was commie-chan the one cara tried to manipulate?

>>8114577
Calling "late transitioners" creepy and ugly doesn't help your case. You're just as toxic as the others. Stop playing the victim.

>>8114580
a lot of people are interested in cara's story and wanted to know what impact they were having on her
>>8114583
yes

>>8114582
Okay but Trent answer this question, why are you helping Cara / so invested in their transition if you feel no empathy?

>>8114583
what did cara do?

>>8114586
>late transitioners" creepy and ugly
I've said before that I'm the same as them.

>>8114586
When people talk about late transitioners, they are obviously not including Cara with them.

>>8114596
She tried to kill both Elli Erlick and Commie Chan in a murder-suicide. Why Elli Erlick out of all people? Who knows.

>>8114595
i genuinely don't have enough insight into my behaviour to tell
i guess she just interested me? that's what usually happens here, i get into situations like this pretty often
>>8114596
tried to bait commie-chan into committing murder-suicide on eli erlick
it was a pretty big controversy, i hated cara for a while after
but eventually everyone reconciled

>>8114577
>maybe it hurts people even if it isn't aimed at them.
Read what you write and ask yourself what you are telling people.

>>8114645
I'm not trying to delegitimize your experience of yourself but you always struck me as someone that was very empathetic just extremely socially inept. Why do you feel so invested in helping bddchan2 realize they are trans as well? I'm sure it will be a similar answer to the one as before, sorry it's just hard for me to wrap my head around.

>>8114656
This place is full of stuff like that anyways

>>8114645
>i get into situations like this pretty often
I'd REALLY like to hear about other people who interested you.

>>8114681
fundamentally the same interest-type thing
which in a way really highlights my really fucked empathy, in that i prioritize 'interesting' over 'good' and thus, say, 'flaming post-apocalyptic wasteland' over 'stable, functional, boring society' because i don't really care about the negative consequences others would face if the latter became the former
but yeah, i don't really understand myself well enough either

>>8114656
I can't think straight anyways, i'll shut up

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emails WHEN

cmon, i wont bite. i can be a useful friend to those who need it.

>>8114697
that's kinda funny, because you're pretty interesting, yourself.

i think in a way that's kind of a common thread between a lot of the regular posters here. either they're caught up in all the goings-on like a soap opera or they've got such a mixed bag of unresolved issues that others can't help but try and armchair psychoanalyze the shit out of them.

and i get what you mean about the empathy--wanting to understand someone and wanting to help them aren't really that different.

>>8114697
I still think you feel empathy on some level even if you admit otherwise, but its probably me projecting that into you.

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>>8114722
Sent...

>>8114641
What, why? What the fuck.

>>8114726
it's a weird bunch of people for sure
functioning people don't really hang around bhutanese transgender support mailing lists
>>8114853
you might be right, but it's certainly reduced
also, one factor with both cara and rv-chan is frustration -- it's very annoying to see blatantly trans people repress because they've deluded themselves into thinking they don't count
>>8114904
because she seemed like a good victim, i guess
commie-chan is obsessed with eli, milder than cara with nicole but it's somewhat comparable, and cara kinda tried to fuck with that

>>8115497
>blatantly trans people repress because they've deluded themselves into thinking they don't count
how do i tell?

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>>8115497
>you might be right

Honestly Trent the reasons why I think you possess empathy are because A: you have a good sense of humor which in my opinion is dependent on having some level of empathy for others B: you seem to care deeply for others like bddchan 1 and 2 / cara even though you say that your motivation stems from frustration (which on some level it probably does,) personally I don't think frustration can be the sole motivator in your case, at least from what I've observed in what you've written on this board in relation to them. And finally because I've seen you express what feels like genuine kindness towards me / others that my intuition tells me can only come from a place of empathy.

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Hello fellow Blanchard anons! Please see my thread here to get the gist of my situation and tell me where you stand on me transitioning/whether I have AAP or not.

Also hi Caraposter I was inspired by you to make myself known round these parts as another trip-fag, talk to me!

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>>8114557
>>8114577
>>8114614
Uh guys, this is commie-chan here and this person isn't me, although they seem to be replying to posts directed at me. I think rv-chan or bdd-chan2 or whatever she's called, got a little confused here.

>>8114482
I don't really see myself as a "degenerate" or even as a "tranny", to be honest I wouldn't have even used that word in a thousand years before I came to this site, it's kinda weird that people throw around that word like candy here. The reason why I'm so bummed and suicidal lately is because this site made me feel like one, which is basically the worst thing you can be, after I was doing so well before.... I just need to find a way to go back to being the person I was a few months ago, she felt like a real, good person for once, but she was gone in a flash.

Really life is all about trying to become the best version of yourself, and learning from the mistakes of the past while also burying your past self in like, a hole in your backyard or something. It's a really embarrassing and sometimes emotionally crippling process, but it's necessary for growth, and while I'm not proud of all my past selves and all, it's not like I can spend my whole life beating myself up over them. And trust me, I've already wasted probably most of my life doing that.

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>>8115595
Forgot the link >>>8115265

>>8115627
lol, at least /tttt has more shitposters now

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>>8115627
I'm the ftm equivalent of her though so not entirely the same.

You can call me Cody btw!

>>8115497
>commie-chan is obsessed with eli
Why? What's so special about her?

Seriously though, I just can't feel any sympathy for cara at this point. She's a genuinely horrible person.

>>8115652
idk man, you'll have to ask her
i guess because eli's an agp early transitioner, though commie-chan is also an early transitioner by realistic definitions of it held by everyone except people who got way too deep into /tttt/

>>8115648
>You can call me Cody btw!
Great to meet you new Cody!

>>8115671
>i guess because eli's an agp early transitioner,
wait wait wait, why doesn't caraposter care if an early transitioner is hsts? why are agp early-transitioners special to commie-chan?

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>>8115684
Nice to meet you too anon-chan! Whatt'dya have to say to my life-story regardig Blanchardian theory? (if you've read my thread?)

>>8115695
because commie-chan is agp and transitioned at 15 and her bdd makes her think she's somehow a late transitioner, so knowing offline an agp who transitioned at 13 #triggers her

>>8115696
What I have to say is that I've got a new favorite Blanchardian ftm!

>>8115702
no thats not it, some agps are obsessed with any early transitions and some are onto into early-transitioners when they are agp

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>>8115712
Awww right backatcha anon! ^//^

>>8115722
Gosh nobody's ever said that to me before!

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BTW I'll use a trip from now on so people can't impersonate me.

>>8115744
Tee-hee ^///^

>>8115652
I stopped being "obsessed" with Eli after I found out she was an abuser, which was probably back in August, but I mentioned her to Cara because I thought she was similar to Nicole in some ways, and she started posting Eli's face everywhere. So I tried to defend her from the people calling her a hon, since I kind of know her, and I used to think she was really great, so it was just kind of jarring to see everyone bashing on her. I do still think she's a better person than me and most people on this board, because she's an actual trans activist who does work in the community, but I don't actually think about her that much.

>>8115754
just how "obsessed"/onto her were you?

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>>8115748
Don't believe them, I'M the real Cody, quit impersonating already anon!

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>>8108980

coincidence or no?

also
>>8115764
lol

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>>8115764
Not cool anon. Right back at you.

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>>8115776

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LOL OK OK, I'm not that evil. Just wanted to tease you a bit.

I'm the fake.

Never even watched that anime. Is it some kind of gay-pedo shit? Because Google images sure gives me a lot of gay pedo stuff.

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>>8115758
I was just really down on myself because of her, but honestly I get down on myself over a lot of things. I guess my transition technically "failed", but it's weird because cis people don't seem to notice IRL or anything. Guys hit on me, girls hit on me, they don't notice I'm trans, I never get misgendered. Trans stuff isn't really a part of my social life. By classical standards and definitions, I'm a "success", right? But obviously, if you look at the thread that was just recently posted, everyone else thinks I'm a failure and a yunghon. So what am I really? It's some kind of existential bizz that I don't know if I can deal with right now.

>>8115797
I'm not batshit like most of /lgbt/, a "cis" het guy as you people prefer to call it, and may give you an objective response. Do you have pics? No angles or filters.

It won't be 100% unbiased because now I already know you're trans, so it's literally impossible to react the same way I'd react / think the same things I'd think if I just saw you randomly on the street, but I'll try to be honest and objective.

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>>8115808
this is a relatively unbiased picture of her

>>8115808
Why is "cis" in quotes?

Do you have Skype or Discord?

>>8115808
>>8115822
also i should note here that her voice is cis girl tier, she's had people assume she was lying about being trans when they hear her speak, so that's important to keep in mind when assessing her

>>8115776
>Right back at you.
oh come on, that's not how you pass the cody poster itt
he just calls it 'backatcha'

>>8115822
>communist
Kill it.

>>8115797
that's not the way cara's onto nicole.

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>>8115796
Yes. Perfect for an AAP like me desu.

(The superior manga is even worse)

>>8115833
I know, that's why the comparison really isn't that great. Honestly, as messed up as I am inside, I'm still not as messed up as Cara, like she actually got called into court and bizz.

>>8115822
Uh, pass. This is what people fuss over? I mean I expected someone who at least gives me an obvious "male" signal since I already *know* they're male but judging by that pic he pretty much passes as a young woman.

>>8115823
Because I think "gender identity" is a bullshit and harmful religion-like belief. Men identifying with manhood is not natural morally neutral; it's like a white person identifying with being white, which would be a signifier of white supremacism. If a guy identifies with being a man, he's a male supremacist. Gender must be abolished.

>>8115828
I'll hone my impersonation skills better for the next time.

>>8115842
>like she actually got called into court and bizz
And then you people wonder why women are up in arms about the whole trans thing.

So many trannies are fucking insane it's not even funny. Leave women the fuck alone FFS.

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>>8115847
>Gender must be abolished

TERF alert!

>>8115862
yeah, that's terf-kun
he's really been making a name for himself lately
we had a decent conversation last night though

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>>8115859
The HSTS transwomen don't tend to bother women from what I've noticed, you shouldn't paint all trannies with such a broad stroke of paint TERF-chan.

>>8115847
Please don't misgender me. Thanks though

>>8115829
her name is literally commie-chan
[spoiler]she's actually a democratic socialist[/spoiler]

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>>8115868
>he's really been making a name for himself lately
It's just because we have 4 days free over here in Germany because of Easter (Friday, weekend, Monday) and I was bored and decided to 4chan a bit. You can count on me disappearing by tuesday and not visiting for several months.

Also someone keeps posting my face regardless of whether I'm around or not. I just notice it every time I visit and it slightly irritates but also amuses me so I indulge and shitpost around the whole phenomenon. Best way to deal with bullies and such is to laugh at their faces.

>>8115878
>commie
>demsoc
Deep Ecology or death.

>>8115913
boo hoo the poor species

>>8115913
>>8115964
There used to be a guy in my friend group who was really into DGR and Lierre Keith, and he basically got disfellowshipped for his TERF views. And dumped by his cis girlfriend. This stuff isn't cool, dude. Especially coming from an AGP.

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Let's get back on topic though.

>>8115913
>You can count on me disappearing by tuesday and not visiting for several months.
Thanks for telling me when to start posting your face again.

>>8115964
Females abuse their children in higher rates than men do.

>>8115964
Women beat and rape men more than the other way around.

>>8115972
>There used to be a guy in my friend group who was really into DGR and Lierre Keith, and he basically got disfellowshipped for his TERF views.
That sounds like me...

>And dumped by his cis girlfriend.
Oh never mind.

I quite one of the online communities I used to feel most at home after I began to see them for the raging MRAs they were, loving queer feminism. There was even a faux-fondness of radical feminism but in the end they couldn't stand having someone who preached it unapologetically. Posting a link that indirectly revealed a snarky comment towards trans ideology got me a warning by a mod, and people who literally told me to go fuck myself were left alone. Nobody seemed to really understand radical feminism to begin with either.

The arrogance of men is ultimate. Dare I claim there is *literally* and I mean *literally* not a single male-dominated community anywhere that isn't anti-feminist when it really comes down to it.

>This stuff isn't cool, dude.
You seriously expect me to base my political opinions on how other people emotionally react to them?..

>Especially coming from an AGP.
There's no contradiction with having AGP, or even privately indulging in it, and supporting radfem ideology. What you do in your bedroom has nothing to do with politics.

>>8115990
Only in absolute numbers, not proportionally, which is because men barely ever care for children.

>>8115991
[citation needed]

>>8116021
>I quite one of the online communities
quit*

>>8116021
t. somebody who never provides citations for her/his own claims

>>8116021
>for the raging MRAs they were, loving queer feminism

You're retarded.

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>>8115913
terf anon you seem like an interesting enough person, I have a question, do you ever fear that all of this intellectualization of gender is just a facade to keep yourself from transitioning? or is your agp dysphoria mild / limited enough for your to continue shitting up us poor "mtt's" for years to come?

This is a serious question by the way, I'm not trying to troll you / actually think you seem like a decent enough person from reading your posts.

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>>8116029
For what do you want a citation?

>>8116032
Anyone who knows a thing about the women who continue the unmodified women's liberation movement would know that they consider "third wave" feminism to be for the most part an MRA movement.

>>8116034
>do you ever fear that all of this intellectualization of gender is just a facade to keep yourself from transitioning
No, as I could "transition" (read: take hormones to get fairer skin and grow boobies) and still support radfem ideology. I understand women who feel offended by that even if one doesn't say it makes one a woman etc.; my public display of stereotypical femininity would function as a sort of glamorizing it, but it's nothing you can't counter by simply being explicit in your politics and making it clear to everyone that you've grown to love looking like that due to the cumulative effect of growing up in a sexist society and that you allow yourself some private indulgence while still opposing trans dogma... I mean I already look at this MORE critically than 99% of so-called "TERFs" I know, who all accept and celebrate e.g. Miranda Yardley and most of whom even accept @StreetVoiceUK (dunno his real name), and yet I could consolidate it if I really had the desire to take mones.

It's a fetish that really fades away for me when I interact with people, especially women. A straightforward het relationship is ultimately more emotionally fulfilling for me than the strange AGP stuff that's mostly just sexual.

>>8116062
terfanon are you straight?

>>8116069
Mostly, yes. Some femboys are really cute though. (I love cute people.) And otherwise I occasionally have *exactly* the "pseudobisexual" inclinations described by Blanchard.

>>8116062
>terf MALE
>AGP fetishist

sounds about right kek

keep hating yourself, jesus

>>8116078
Male feminist self-hatred is nothing to do with being AGP.

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>>8116078
I don't hate myself though, only other men.

I have a couple problems with myself (totally unrelated to the current topic), but overall I'm pretty fine.

Life isn't easy for anyone.

>>8115869
I've noticed this too. How come it seems like the ones that really get all riled up with TERFs are the AGP transwomen and not the HSTS ones? Seriously, just look on tumblr and basically all the rantings against TERFs are from the AGP trans lesbians and nary a peep from any HSTS types!

>>8116078
don't bully poor terf anon.

>No, as I could "transition" (read: take hormones to get fairer skin and grow boobies) and still support radfem ideology.


So what would you do then if you were to medically transition and became unable to enter male spaces anymore without causing trouble / people to be uncomfortable with your presence?

> clear to everyone that you've grown to love looking like that due to the cumulative effect of growing up in a sexist society

So are you saying you think a*p / transsexuality isn't innate / is in fact a "learned" sexuality" / behavior or am I misunderstanding? if so do you also think homosexuality / heterosexuality / etc are "learned" sexualities?

>>8116102
oops it's really late here meant for>>8116062
as well

>>8116102
>don't bully poor terf anon.
showing your true colors at last, transitioning to feminist

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>>8116121
I don't like seeing anyone bullied even if they say things I don't agree with.

also
>please don't bully me because i stuck up for terfanon

>>8116102
>what would you do then if you were to medically transition and became unable to enter male spaces anymore without causing trouble / people to be uncomfortable with your presence
I haven't thought much about it. Depending on the situation, place, people populating the space etc. I could use the women's room, the men's room, the one for the disabled, or avoid the place.

>So are you saying you think a*p / transsexuality isn't innate / is in fact a "learned" sexuality" / behavior or am I misunderstanding?
I think AGP at least is quite obviously a fetish that one develops. At the very *very* least we know that *some* AGP have developed it after exposure to sissy porn, anime, or else, when before it didn't cross their mind.

Sexual orientation is a different thing. The "born this way" narrative doesn't seem absolute and is also politically useless/harmful IMO; we should concentrate on "I can *choose* to consensually fuck with whoever I like, and nobody can control that" instead of "I just can't help it so please tolerate me uguu~". The important thing is it doesn't harm anyone. The problem with trans currently is it collides with women's and other people's liberation from male supremacy.

>>8116127
>also
>>please don't bully me because i stuck up for terfanon
aww!

>>8116127
you lack conviction

pussy ass nigga

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>>8116129
I think us A*Pers are definitely born with it though considering how much similarities there are between those with it. (The autism thing for one)

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>>8116138
autism in transsexualism is pretty interesting
it's associated with agp mtf transsexualism and both types of ftm transsexualism
t. hsts male autist
i went through a pretty interesting study at one point about autistic trans kids where it appeared a disproportionate number of them were agp compared to the general prepubertal trans population

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>>8116144
stop trying to help everyone

some people deserve to suffer

except cara. cara is CUTE.

>>8116138
I think certain people are predisposed to it but it then develops in them. Just like some people have a weaker immune system and get colds often doesn't mean they're cold-kin.

>>8116144
>Sigh... Dropped.
Why so? There was a thread with someone admitting it just a day or two ago, and it's my experience as well. I got AGP through anime -> /a/ -> trap threads.

>some people on this board seem to hate this person with a deep passion
To be honest one of them came out to be rv-chan who just hated/hates(?) me because he thought I'm the femgen shitposter when I wasn't.

We don't know yet who began to spread my face on the board though.

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>>8116146
That's why I think A*P is an in-born trait, I don't think it could be such a coincidence that the A*Pers tend to have it much more frequently compared to the HSTSers.

Didn't know about HSTS ftms having similar rates though, that's definitely interesting and throws a bit of a wrench in my theory. Still you can't deny that us A*P types tend to come off as much creepier/awkward than you HSTSers right?

>>8116167
>Still you can't deny that us A*P types tend to come off as much creepier/awkward than you HSTSers right?
i've met some real fucking weird a*ps, but i myself am weird and select for weirdness so i may not have encountered a representative sample
here's the archive of a thread i made a while ago that may be relevant:
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/7835479/

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>>8116188
Did you read my thread? I guarantee if you did you'll probably note that I come off with probably the exact amount of weirdness as others A*Pers right?

>>8116101
>>8116062
But you're AGP. and most of the ones pushing GC now are AGP and very late transitioners. Like Yardley and Aoife, and the later got in big time trouble for using his ideology to hit make sexual passes at a teenager who was questioning if they were Ftm.

Look it up cause GC disowned and condemned Aoife for it.

>>8115859
>Leave women the fuck alone FFS
see, it's really grating when you say that after your hands are dirty. i don't like hypocrites, you shouldn't preach unless your hands are clean

>>8116419
>>8116431
Yardley is LITERALLY the only late transing AGP I'm aware of who consistently sticks to radfem ideology. (And puts out high-quality articles about it to boot. Sasuga, Yardley.)

Do you have a single other example?

Most hons push "gender identity" because they can't ever acknowledge AGP.

Also you're rv-chan, right? Someone set you up buddy. You dun goof'd well. The person you're really thinking of is probably laughing his ass off at the fact that we're fighting each other on /lgbt/ (on the rare occasions I visit anyway).

Tell us who on lesgen told you it was me who shitposts in their threads, and we can find the common enemy. Just drop your attitude first.

>>8116459
terf anon, 'masculine agps are worse than hitler' is the hill that rv-chan will die on and you're not going to be the exception even though you agree on some topics

>>8116459
Yardley was also a chaser back as a man, he was a middle aged man who used to pick up young trans. So he's just as bad, just hasn't been caught by GC yet.

I can't stand people who preach morality when they've done exactly what they complain about. There's nothing I hate more than hypocrites. Honestly, that's why I didn't like you, your hands seem dirty. I don't know if I confused you but that's how you seem.

I need to shut up about this because it's hurting all of the nice people here, but this is why I said I can only take women, esp domestic abuse survivors seriously for GC. Most men are unfit to preach it.

>>8116459
>Most hons push
some, but just as many push fundamentalist Christian or GC ideology. It gets them auto Tru trans treatment they never would have gotten. It also gives bad people like Aoife cover. Which incidentally after getting blown with GC just went full fundy Christian and again is beloved and protected by everyone there. These ideologies let anyon who speak the right words in, even if they've got bloody hands.

>>8116468
I'm trying to shut up.

>>8116511
i don't think you should shut up, your pain is valid and this is the best coping method you have for expressing it
i am simply attempting to explain to terf anon that his attempts at buddying up with you are going to hurt you both

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BTW anyone here know @CursedE? Harassed feminists on Twitter for long, got banned recently. Admitted being a 4channer literally since 2005. Uses pic related avatar.

>>8116492
>he was a middle aged man who used to pick up young trans
And what did he do with them? We all know here that young trans often desire the weirdest shit. Do you have any proof he was predatory or whatever?

>this is why I said I can only take women, esp domestic abuse survivors seriously
Fine, let me give some background info on me. I began developing serious depression at around the age of 11-12. I remember first crying myself to sleep dreaming about suicide at the age of 13. With 17 I sliced my own throat with the intention to die, losing about a liter of blood. I lived for many years after that just suffering through life, my mindset basically being that consciousness itself hurts, but I'll bear it because I don't want to haunt my family after all. Things only really began to get better at around the ages of 21-22. I'm 23 now.

There's one very bad thing I did in life halfway relevant to the topic, which was haunt a girl my age due to a love obsession around the ages of 16-18. Basically I tried to contact her non-stop and caused her a lot of mental suffering, though there was no stalking, threats, or the like, because as autistic I am (and especially was), I'm not evil.

Most of my suffering in life, including my at times autistic-like behavior (I don't literally have autism, was only diagnosed with schizoid personality disorder, other than major depression) has been caused by masculine socialization and how unpleasant masculinist males are. I've mastered wearing a mask due to them, and it's unpleasant to say the least to lock up your whole real personality inside of you.

Maybe this helps you empathize a bit, I dunno. Not saying all this in a "baww, pity me!" kind of way, as my schizo PD makes me emotionally detached and I don't allow people to pity me, but maybe it helps anyhow.

>>8115859
>women

>>8116565
I can't help with this. You should ask people who have more stability. I can barely function as is.

>>8116565
>my personality disorder defines me

i guess i need to start torturing squirrels because im aspd, huh?

>>8118694
Where exactly did I imply "my personality disorder defines me"? Can you elaborate what you mean with this?

>>8118691
Sorry senpai, I'm beginning to understand you have issues and in some sense can't help it, and I guess I must've been yelling at you almost every time I've visited /lgbt/ over the past few years (which isn't that often, but still), but please understand that interacting with you can get extremely tedious.

And behavior that's kind of irrational/illogical is my weak spot I guess. It puts me in a boiling rage sometimes when the person is at the same time more or less yelling at me and being all holier-than-thou.

I'm sure our interaction would be very different IRL because when I only read the text someone's writing, I can't immediately tell with what tone they're saying it.

>>8118790
You used PD as a justification/excuse

>>8118814
I'm too tired right now to spend brain fuel on what precisely you mean by this and why it's bad and what I could do better and whether I care about that particular type of self-improvement at the moment, sorry.

this drama needs a bump

wheres everyone at?

>>8120214
i was asleep
>>8118694
which one are you
how did you get diagnosed with aspd, this is an important question

OP here

This thread took a lot more twists and turns than I expected

Is terfanon still around?

>>8122405
Who is op?

>>8122433
me

>>8122433
i was working under the assumption op is artposter, given the classical art op image
she seems to have dropped name though

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>>8122648
No I'm not OP though whoever is OP / chose the image for this thread did a good job capturing how I feel about a "post /blanchardgen/" /tttt.

>>8122405
Almost certain. I think I just saw him in another thread.

>>8122405
Yep. He's still here and in threads like >>8123475 and basicaly asking mtfs for sex/dates while preaching morality and telling them they're men.

I know I'm supposed to act nicer to people but somebody doing both of those things pisses me off.

>>8124475
>I know I'm supposed to act nicer to people
It calls us subhuman >>8124387
Why should we consider it a person either?

>>8124503
You mean TeRf Jesus is doing that too? It's like he's trying to make himself unlikable.

>>8124475
>agp
>gynemimetophile
>self-hating radfem
i'm starting to wonder if this is straight up a statistically relevant cluster

>>8124523
Is it possible to be self-hating radfem and Hsts/hsfb?

>>8124518
That's its post. "subhuman scum"

>>8124596
yes
in fact, the specific cross-section of 'white, middle-class or higher hsts' is really overrepresented amongst radfems
still a minority, but it's a small cluster in general

>>8124523
AGPs are often self-hating whatever their politics.

>>8124717
Which explains why so much of pol and a lot of men who claim GC are AGP

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>>8124717
Can confirm

>t. self hating agp mtf

>>8126884
Are you even sure you're AGP? Or at least the typology is probably useless because there are no differences between most of the hsts and 'agp' here. And certainly you, Commie and all the others seem much more legit than me.

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>>8128957
>more legit than me.

bddchan2 is that you?

>>8128972
Yes. But it's true.

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>>8128957
Yeah i'm pretty much 100% sure I fit into the a*p category but I don't really care anymore. I Also don't totally agree with everything blanchard / his supporters think regarding my reasons for transitioning but i've also reached a point in which I can no longer even objectively analyze myself in regards to my "true" motivations for transitioning because of internal shame / some unconscious disgust around a*p / shame around being trans in general / etc so I try not to really focus on that as much, it just leaves me feeling confused and depressed.

All that matters is I feel significant GD and know that I will kill myself if I don't do what I have to do to be happy, so with that in mind transition seems like the most viable option.


also

>more legit than me.

How are you less legitimate than me / anyone on this board that chooses to transition to alleviate their GD?

Do you think it's fair to say your definition of legitimacy / illegitimacy regarding being trans can be reduced to / is influenced by how well you pass / respect spaces and language reserved for people opposite to your natal sex assuming you don't pass? Do you personally feel you are somehow invading woman's spaces / identities by being trans / having a desire to transition even if you choose to transition in the most "respectful" way possible?

>>8129146
>regarding being trans can be reduced to / is influenced by how well you pass / respect spaces and language reserved for people opposite to your natal sex assuming you don't pass?
This made me sad

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>>8129250
Sorry, I know it's fucked up and i'm not saying I necessarily completely agree with that view, (I do think you should put some effort into passing / presenting as the gender you claim to identify as but obviously not everyone is going to pass even if they do x y and z, so it's more complicated than that.)

I'm just being honest about how I feel / assume bddchan2 might feel as well.

>>8128957
there is a giant difference between hstses and young a*ps, it's just that because of your issues you can only see a*ps as 'horrible monster hpns who want to rape me to death' so when exposed to kind, good people with good intentions and the condition of transsexualism who happen to have autoerotic etiologies you aren't sure what to do

>>8129313
It was me and that's close enough to it. That's also why for myself in particular, I feel it would be worthless to transition unless I were sure about meeting the passing premise.

And even then, I don't think it would really be achieved in the way I value so my BDD would never really go away.

So I don't think I'll ever be happy

>>8129457
I see no difference between them and me assides from them being better people so either I'm like them or they are like me

And the typology was very clear about what kind of people Blanchards AGP archetype were like

>>8129476
>And the typology was very clear about what kind of people Blanchards AGP archetype were like
god fucking damnit rv-chan i have been trying to explain this to you for months now
the modal agp has a lot more in common with artposter than she does with the people who have hurt you, and ray blanchard will tell you this

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>>8129464
>It was me

Oh

>That's also why for myself in particular, I feel it would be worthless to transition unless I were sure about meeting the passing premise.

You can never be 100% "sure" obviously but literally myself and everyone here on /tttt has either said you look like a ftm / lesbian / would totally pass if you tried / etc. I'd say you have a pretty good / guaranteed shot at passing if you were to try.

>I value so my BDD would never really go away.

I don't have bdd nor do I know very much about it but as far as I know that takes lots and lots of therapy to resolve. Being trans is independent of having bdd and I wouldn't be surprised repressing influences / makes your bdd worse.

I genuinly think you can be happy it just takes lots and lots of work.

>>8129482
Sorry I know I'm being irrational... your blog links, and the other references, they honestly do make it seem like the other way around though

>>8129507
a lot of it is you reading your own experiences into stuff, and also the fact that hstses who gravitate towards blanchardianism are disproportionately people who have been abused by the relevant a*p type in the past
also, as i've said, you pass even by your own unrealistically strict definition of it. especially given that you're 5'6" and being a hsts means you presumably have feminine mannerisms.

>>8129519
How did you know my height?

>>8129550
you've mentioned it in at least one post

>>8124475
>>8124518
If you're still here Jesus then please don't leave. I've said much worse things and I just have a twisted sense of morality.

You should stay, maybe you'll find something helpful in this place.

>>8129313
>I do think you should put some effort into passing / presenting as the gender you claim to identify as
does this apply to cis people too or just trannies?

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>>8136664
>does this apply to cis people too or just trannies?


Ideally I don't think anyone should be viewed with any more or less legitimacy in regards to the claims around their identity. However, given the strict gender binary we operate under today, presentation IS important for both transgender people and cis people if they wish for their "identity" to be respected, however it is especially so for transgender people for various cultural reasons. This is the simple reality, and as unfortunate as this is it's still the truth so yes I do think it's fair to say if one were to expect / claim certain language / spaces / privileges primarily reserved to their GI or natal sex, one should make their best attempts to "pass" as the gender they identify as. This is especially important for both cis / transgender people (more-so for transgender people) that are attempting to enter some gender exclusive space such as a bathroom, public changing room, etc.

However with that said obviously cis gendered people have a lot more privilege in regards to using spaces such as bathrooms / public changing rooms / etc even if they purposefully or not don't pass very well as their natal sex because of our societies unconscious / conscious expressions of biological essentialism in various forms and the fact that cis people inevitably fit easier into our prescribed binary definition of man / woman by virtue of being cisgendered. Conformity is especially important in the case of trans-women trying to use spaces such as bathrooms / public changing rooms / etc, because again our entire cultural perception regarding a trans-women's legitimacy as being a "women" is implicitly and explicitly related to how well they fit into a """patriarchal standard of beauty""" that defines women as having x y and z because they inherently lack most / all of the other "biologically essential" traits of being female, by being born male. (This all applies to trans-men as well obviously.)

What do you think?

>>8137003
not the person you responded to, but this all sounds spot-on to me

>>8137003
>inherently lack most / all of the other "biologically essential" traits of being female, by being born male.
I have a hard time ever reconciling these with transitioning. Even if passing weren't a concern.

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>>8138476

Why?

I do too but at the same time dysphoria is a very real and painful phenomenon transgender people experience, surely that has to be considered when asking the question of whether or not someones gender identity should be respected / viewed as legitimate.

>>8137003
it's all true but it shouldn't be that way.

>>8138885
how should it be then?

>>8142674
no cis privilege.

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What is /blanchardgen's/ opinion on Gender Identity? Purely / mostly a social construct or perhaps rooted in something deeper / unchangeable?

Assuming gender identity is a purely social construct how do we reconcile this belief with people that claim a transgender identity and transition mostly because of physical dysphoria?

Are people that claim a transgender identity while simultaneously feeling no physical dysphoria / claiming gender identity is a social construct actually harming the transgender movement?

>>8146751
Gendered behaviors are probably close to entirely socialized, but gender dysphoria is probably the result of a physical or neurological imbalance of some kind.

As an ancient tranny (4 year transitioner), my take from this is the same as always: I hate my gross manboobs, I wish I passed better, and I hate having an innately cringy ADHD male/AGP brain.

However my self hatred is so strong that I have specifically molded myself to be as least cringy and intrusive as possible.

>>8146751
gender itself is a social construct. gender identity is formed by a combination of neurology + socialization in childhood, and not everyone, cis or trans, even has an innate 'identity' at all.

>>8146751
>Are people that claim a transgender identity while simultaneously feeling no physical dysphoria / claiming gender identity is a social construct actually harming the transgender movement?
What do they say to people who weren't dysphoric but undeniably benefited from transition?

>>8149047

>What do they say to people who weren't dysphoric but undeniably benefited from transition?

Can you give me an example of someone that doesn't feel dysphoria but would benefit from medically transitioning?

>>8150079
Pic in OP says she isn't dysphoric but her life is almost certainly better for transitioning >>8148667

>>8150605
Why did she transition?

>>8150846
She wanted to be hot, she got a loving husband, and as a channer in the early 2000s likely didn't have good career (or life) prospects as a man.

>>8150919
>she wanted to be hot

So like agp or she just literally evaluated all her options in life and decided the most rational / best decision would be to transition from m t f? Not going to lie that's really strange but I don't think it makes them any less "legitimate," it's just really hard for me conceptualize why someone would undergo such a difficult process that is transitioning when you feel no dysphoria around your presentation.

>>8150979
I'm just going off what she said, that she's not dysphoric and just wanted to be hot. That doesn't sound agp to me because don't they feel dysphoria of a kind too?

If she knew she would benefit from transition then why wouldn't she, after considering life either way?

>>8150605
I linked the wrong post!

I wanted to link to >>8145691 but got confused by the thumbnails...

>>8151086
I don't think she meant it that way from what she way saying, but who knows. Maybe someone could tweet and ask her.

To your deleted post, she doesn't sound agp to me and I think she should be considered trans too.

But if she didn't ever feel dysphoria then she's a challenge for the idea you need a female/trans identity or to be dysphoric to benefit from transitioning.

>>8151163
Maybe I read her wrong but if she was never dysphoric, how could she be? They are dysphoric if they transition.

Who is "someone like that"? She married a man and does sex work...

>>8151199
Non dysphoric AGP are usually the fetishists and old crossdressing men and chasers so they fall in that group if so. So basically a fetishist like Stephoknee.

>>8151265
Nothing like her.

i don't like being a tripfag it sucks
t. trent

>>8153359
We like you either way