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Cute girls drinking tea edition

• Makeup for beginners: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
• Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
• Correct hormone levels: http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
• Checking your levels: http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
• Reducing Muscle http://www.trans-health.com/2001/lose-muscle-gain-fat-dieting-for-mtfs/
• Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
• Transition time lines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
• Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
• IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
• please be nice to each other

Old Thread >>8059764
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anon is first
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>>8061070
/mtfg/ having a tea party
kayla attentionwhoring
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>>8061075
B-but America's first
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WW3 IS KICKING OFF AND YOU'RE ALL SAT AROUND DRINKING TEA AND WEARING RAINBOW THIGH HIGHS?!

GOD DAMN IT, SOMEONE START DIGGING THE BUNKER ALREADY!
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Don't tell me it's not worth tryin' for
You can't tell me it's not worth dyin' for
You know it's true
Everything I do,
I do it for (you)
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>>8061075
Anon is the alpha and the omega
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>>8061079
I use to follow the news daily, after around 5-6 WW3 scares you stop caring anymore.
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>>8061079
relax
we are going to form a militia in the post apocalypse and kill all in our path to get sweet sweet hormones
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>>8061079
bless Trump for initiating the end to our existences

sweet release of death here I come
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>>8061079
Oh well if I die it's not a big deal.
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If I enjoy being trans does it mean I'm AGP?
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>>8061093
we are going to be so kawaii
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>>8061090
I'm gonna join the airforce!
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>>8061097
Enjoying being trans is a paradox
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>>8061103
>not finding enjoyment in the little things like swordfighting your bf
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>>8061099
that, is the most kawaii thing I have ever seen in my life
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>dream you can't find your car at a parking lot
>walking around parking lot and all your school friends have super ultra awesome cars that they find and get in and say goodbye to you.... lamborghinis, Mercedes AMGs, M-type BMWs, Ferraris and whatnots, and I feel bad about my shit car that never appears
>playing around with my car key and it falls down and it shatters
>decide in dream that this is too fucking much and it must be a dream.
>try to wake up
>look at watch
>3:30 a.m.
Fuck you subconscious.
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>>8061093
blessed Trump
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>>8061079
LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLLLLLLLLE!
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>>8061107
No like, it's a literal paradox. It's contradictory on a level of definition. Transgender means NOT enjoying your birth assigned sex associated gender. You can't enjoy not enjoying
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So I just woke up, donald trump attacked syria? Then wtf was the point of electing him?
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>>8061107
>you will never experience every chaser's fantasy of frotting with Elanna because HER FUCKING DICK IS GONE
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>>8061107
>not enjoying having to worry about what your friends and family are going to think when they find out
>not enjoying needing to stay closeted until late this year because if your parents find out you'll end up homeless
>not enjoying how repression caused serious and likely permanent emotional damage
>not enjoying how you'll not get to go as far in life as you otherwise would have done
>not enjoying ending up as an oversized ugly beast
>not enjoying breaking in to tears because you got an erection
I don't see how anyone could not enjoy being trans, literally the dream desu
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>>8061116
Then you transition to the sex opposite your birth sex and enjoy it?
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The Russian puppet memes must have really gotten to Trump's head.
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>>8061099

Those are rotor wings and therefore primarily the domain of the army, you silly.
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>>8061122
Yes but then you would be enjoying being less trans tho(closer to cis)
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>>8061107

I guess he won then.
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>>8061126
Yes but I'd be marketing for the airforce, for being a cute anime girl. I wouldn't fly anything!
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>>8061079
Yawn...

>>8061119
LOL A business man thinking he can change government.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW-RmVY2OkA

>>8061119
at least it bought us two months
I thought that Trump would go for Korea before he would even think about Syria.
I guess I will have to dust off the preps
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>Ma'amd twice in one day in boymode
We're all gonna make it edition
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>>8061127
>closer to cis
Nigga r u high?
This shit ain't shades of grey, you're either trans or you're cis.

>>8061121
Wow, Debbie Downer

>>8061120
But I never frotted I only ironically slapped him with my dick from time to time ;~;
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>>8061135
How many years hrt?
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>>8061136
Did you ironically plow his ass too?
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>>8061129

Well if you can't tell the difference between air force and army then you're not going to be much use marketing anything.

People like you are high anime girl representation in boardrooms is so low.
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>>8061136
>Not doing everything you can with your peen while you still had it.
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>>8061136
>This shit ain't shades of grey, you're either trans or you're cis.
femboys
cis agps
detransitioners
plenty of other examples.
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Ouch
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https://vimeo.com/18781528
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>tfw psychiatric nurse thinks I'm mental because I laughed in her face when talking about suicide
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>>8061145
Do not use that for what I think you're going to use it for.
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>>8061147
normies dont get it tbqh
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>>8061119
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>>8061145
(hugg)
what did you do? :(
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>>8061146
At least download your movies in proper quality faggot!
>>8061151
Fucking normies reee
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>>8061139
I have literally never stuck my penis in anyone

>>8061141
>tfw you tried stuff with your peen and not everything was really all that fun but at least ur adventurous enough to have tried getting a blowjob

>>8061143
You're conflating expression with actual state of being
Femboys are either cis or trans
Cis agps are cis it's literally in their name
Detransitioners either do it because they're cis or they do it because of other reasons despite being trans

Saying someone is "more cis" is like saying a number is "less even" or "more odd", it is a binary state of being and makes zero sense.
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>>8061148
Ouch :(
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>>8061160
What happened? Are you all right?
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>>8061156
Nurse assistant class
I don't really have a wound or sth :)
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>>8061160
When you getting your augs
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>>8061167
LJFKLASFSDHFJKSDFSDJKLFJLK
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>>8061167
you spooked me >_>
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>>8061159
>Saying someone is "more cis" is like saying a number is "less even" or "more odd", it is a binary state of being and makes zero sense.
You're just saying that's so. All your points are just "I say so".
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i need some advice from girls and you guys seem like the nicest girls that i can find on here

how do i get a gf?
what do i need to do?
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>>8061181
Anime coventions?
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>>8061185
there has got to be more to it than that
they don't just hand out gfs like pamplets
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>>8061179
Cisgendered - birth sex matches gender identity
Transgendered - birth sex does not match gender identity

Those are your hard and fast definitions, which also encompass nonbinaries and memegenders (spoiler: their birth sex does not match their gender identity, therefore they are trans).

It is a binary state of being. It is not a sliding scale. The only way to no longer be trans or to retroactively alter your birth sex, as your birth sex then matches your gender, making you cis.
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>>8061189
*is to retroactively alter your birth sex
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we must secure a future for our tranny waifus
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>tfw you are still in the closet and people thought you woulda cracked by now
k i l l
m e
n o w
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>>8061189
>implying you can identify as anything but male or female
you cannot Identify as something that does not exist
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>>8061189
> nonbinarys are trans
This depends on which definition of trans you use.
In English sources you mostly find an extreme liberal definition but for example in German sources transgender only refers to mtf and ftm
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>>8061181
Not be an idiot. Go places you're likely to encounter girls, find a girl with common interests, ask her on date, don't blow it on the date.

There step by step process of how to do it.
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>>8061212
>Not be an idiot.
check
>Go places you're likely to encounter girls
check
>find a girl with common interests
check
>ask her on date
rip
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>>8061212
>a girl with common interests
Shame my interests are WWII, videogames and shitposting
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My big sister came out as trans
How do I be nice to them
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>>8061218
Come out as trans too

:^)
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why do so many retards on 4chan erase nonbinary identities?

do they feel like doing this in public makes their own identities more valid?

really fires the neurons tbqh
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>>8061218
support them, but don't overdo it
pretty much just treat them how you did before

a lot of things will be changing for her, it'll be nice for a few things to stay the same
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I wanna experience my fantasy of frotting elanna's innie
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here you go anon uwu
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>>8061209
I use cis and trans as prefixes, which are also used in other sciences to apply the meaning "same" and "other". The same logic applies to the prefixes "hetero" (other) and "homo" (same). A homosexual is someone attracted to the same gender. A heterosexual is someone attracted to other genders.

This definition is simple, elegant, and encompasses edge cases. It is also, by definition, binary.

>>8061208
Damn, I had hoped you had stopped posting for good.
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Another day
Another day and still stuck as a hon
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>>8061225
uwu
also t-thats lewd that you are both naked under those covers
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>>8061218
Vomit and ask them why they want to be a disgusting male.

>>8061225
Anna has a monster jaw
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hello girls

come visit us

>>>/int/73283391
>>>/int/73283391
>>>/int/73283391
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>>8061231
i don't like anna but it's not as big as in the picture
for some reason she likes angling her pics to make it look bigger lmao
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>>8061225
omg cute
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>>8061235
If your jaw is > 1" from lips to chin, it's big
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>>8061225
Revolting beyond measure.
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>>8061205
With rape right?

>>8061151
Id laugh if you killed yourself ngl tbqh
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>>8061242
Edgy bro
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>>8061239
Do you ever do anyhing else with your "life" besides post here?
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>>8061242
>Id laugh if you killed yourself ngl tbqh
same
I would laugh in hell
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>>8061231
No they are mtf

>>8061219
I'm not trans, only seeked you out because you have info on this

>>8061223
Ok

They were crying a lot. I was worried
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>>8061226
woah, what new made up shit happened about me while I was gone?
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>>8061246
Filenames.
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>>8061250
Tell them they shouldn't transition
Does he want to become a mentally ill freak?
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>>8061255
I'm not going to do that
I love them
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>>8061251
Elanna is just upset that she's still a loser
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>>8061258
hi amy!
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>>8061261
>Elanna is a drug addict
>no college degree
>works in retail
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>>8061250
it will have been tough for them to come out
idk her circumstances but when I come out I'll get disowned by my family and lose a lot of the friends I grew up with
that sort of stuff hurts

like I said, just support her, but don't overdo it
if there's one thing that trans hate, it's when people make it about themselves or are too desperate to prove they're a good and accepting person.
this is her life. It's who she is, she won't want to be treated specially just for being trans.
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>>8061263
she works hard at her life daily and is a princess pls dont be mean to her.
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>>8061263
Are u new?
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>>8061266
Trip on Elanna
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reminder Amy Victoria is a rapist
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>>8061269
No
All three are true
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>>8061270
less than a min apart :3
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>>8061250
just be supportive. Treat her the same as you did before. Realize that your sister has just been a really boyish girl all along, even when both you and her thought she was a boy. It's super hard to internalize this but just try to get it in your head and accept it.
Ask her how transitioning is going once in a while maybe or idk.
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>>8061272
Elaborate.
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>>8061273
But they aren't tho lol
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>>8061274
Using two devices :3
Shill for a gold account :3
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>>8061280
You work retail unless you quit your job.
You don't have a college degree yet.
You have done drugs on a constant basis.
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>>8061275
It's not too hard to accept she's shorter than me despite being a year older
I just hope she's happy

>>8061264
Thanks, I'll try to just be normal around her
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>>8061226
But you assume that nonbinary is a valid gender identity.
Isn't nonbinary the absence of a gender identity?
Since there are only two genders there can only be two gender identities. So if someone is trans it automatically means they are either mtf or ftm.
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>>8061272
god i miss her
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my cat is sick
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goodnight
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wUOjuiAikrU
She's right you know
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>>8061291
Gn anzu sheen
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>>8061284
Good luck, bless you anon.

>>8061290
(hugg)

>>8061291
sleepe sheen
(hugg)
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>>8061291
Farewell.
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>>8061292
is she, dare i say it, our girl?
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>>8061291
u are fat n ugly
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>>8061302
dont forget ugly and old
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>>8061283
>You don't have a college degree yet
Damn son you really don't watch much mtfg do you? It's ok, the last season has been pretty dry.

>>8061286
I am making no statements about the absence or presence of gender identity, just that cis and trans are a binary.
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>>8061305
the tub of lards like 33 and hasnt even attempted ANY self improvement...

They thrive off pity...someone put this elephant to sleeo just a waste of resources.
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>>8061302
>>8061305
stop being mean to sheen she's lovely
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>>8061302
>>8061305
i will DESTROY meanies
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>>8061311
>she

Dont misgender snorlax
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Is being scared of vaginas trutrans?
a-asking for a friend
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>>8061316
stop being mean to her what did she ever do to you

if you want to bully someone, bully me instead, I'm an actual ugly piece of shit
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>>8061317
no it means you're scared of the unknown
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>>8061320
idek who you are nor do i care.

Theres no way you're as pathetic as sheen
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6U9T3R3EQg
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>>8061189
>It is a binary state of being. It is not a sliding scale.
Refer back to >>8061179
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>>8061321
thank you sertii
sounds ominous and stuff
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>>8061324
sheen is a sweet girl

bully me instead, I actually deserve it
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>>8061324
Calm down Drake.
We will have a care for autism someday
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>tfw voice is so bad and deep
>organization people blocked my path because they wanted money
>I said 'no I'm busy sorry'
>but my voice got even deeper when I said it

why cant i just die from a rare disease or something
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>>8061339
>sheen is sweet
thats just the diabetes
>girl
>girl
>sheen
>girl
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>>8061317
would you be scared of your own vagina?
or Annas?
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>>8061225
this picture makes me want to die
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>>8061345
what the heck did she do to you
are you really going to be a jerk to someone just because they didn't get to transition particularly early?

she's lovely and doesn't deserve this
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i want to break free

oh I want to breeeaak free
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>>8061345
don't be an asshole

>>8061277
we're not allowed to talk about that
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>>8061353
u jelly bro?

T. Anna

>>8061347
All of them
Maybe not of Anna's though
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>>8061364
And he blamed Obama for Syria.
What a joke trump is
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>>8061292
blaire white is based tranny
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>>8061367
yes. kill me.
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wait why are people surprised to discover US presidents only come in one flavor: warmonger
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so I missed like 5 seasons of the MtFG show

where's the recap?
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>>8061371
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>>8061375
everyone died.
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>>8061339
If I did police sketches and a witness told me to draw the most generic guy ever, you would be arrested.
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>>8061375
/mtfg/ is a leftypol satellite now, all non-communists have been purged. being gay gives you extra status now also.
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>be me
>hrt for more than 5 years, post-op, deep stealth
>not miss gendered in years
>answer door today for postman
>genders me correctly at first with "love" then says "thanks mate" when leaving, mate being always used with males in the UK

Guess it's time to kms.
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>>8061383
I approve of this timeline
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leggy girls
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>>8061382
that made me giggle a little not gonna lie
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>>8061374
alot of people live in delusion and fear hearing the truth
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>>8061333
Look, I'm not the one that defined these prefixes and suffixes
These are established in many branches of science
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>>8061384
Good by georgia
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>>8061398
>makes up semantics off the top of her head
>"science says it"
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>>8061354
if everyone stopped hugboxing him he would finally fuck off and kill himself
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>>8061374
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literally FML

I ordered a transgender pride t shirt from teespring, and selected the WOMENS TEE version which looked quite feminine, and ended up being sent the fucking unisex/male version.

Fucking trannies I swear, even t shirts turn out to be men irl.
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>"""science""" replaces religion for these stupid middle class cucks
>they still deny it when things don't go their way
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>>8061418
>if people stopped treating them like a person since they're actually nice but I don't like them for whatever reason so I think it's ok to want her to kill herself

what the heck why do you think this is ok
who hurt you
(hugg)
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>>8061402
Cis - same
Trans - opposite
Use a dictionary if you must, I have no more time to argue semantics with someone who ignores them
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>>8061112
>>8061154
>>8061364
>tfw supported trump
>tfw support war in the mena too
this presidency just gets better and better!
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Tfw you're a girl
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>>8061430
>voting for someone who is against your rights

Voters are so stupid these days
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>>8061383
>leftypol
PURE

CANCER
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>>8061438
You could be right and be a complete idiot
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>tfw yuge bite marks all over my neck/face
w-wew
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>>8061435
wtf how did you do that
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>>8061438
communism will win bitch
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>tfw me and my friend constantly call each other "man" and "dude" and "bro" even though we're both mtf trans
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>>8061429
>dictionary writers' whims are "established in many branches of science"
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>>8061443
I AM TRYING TO EAT
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If I'm planning on waiting for stem cell vaginas (or please god full reproductive systems), is there any reason to not get an orchiectomy? I can't imagine stem cell vaginas would need material from the scrotum like current srs techniques, right?
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>>8061469
yeah you'll be waiting for at least 20 years so you'd better get one
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>>8061456
enjoy your meal c:
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I hate 3rd shift becuase im fully awakw but I know i should be sleeping right now and its my weekend
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>>8061471
Ugh please no. I don't want to wait that long
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>>8061473
Don't give me that look.
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aren't cis and trans Latin. how is this an argument
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>>8061474
you should try some melatonin
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>>8061476
even if it is available in 20 years, it will be extremely expensive.
waiting for medical advances is silly desu
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>>8061488
>>8061488
i take 10mg daily but i drink coffee st johns wort ginkgo and preworkout all night
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>>8061487
back on the transition wagon?
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>>8061487
good girl
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>>8061499
i want to shoot the fuck up with goselerin NOW
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i dont wanna have to go to school today
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>>8061469
No reason at all. Just live life as a male and save up for cryopreservation.
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>>8061495
But current srs just freaks me out. I know I should just get it anyway but like.. Idk any reason I try to give for wanting to wait for the "real deal" comes off kinda irrational.

I'm just sick of taking Spiro and can't afford srs yet so I want to be rid of my testes, I guess
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>>8061513
Hopefully we get immortal robot bodies sooner than cryopreservation
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>>8061514
Better than having a dick
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>>8061498
that is too much

also why are you taking so much stuff
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>>8061523
idk makes my day better
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>>8061503
so the detrains thing was a mem?
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>>8061528
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>>8061514
i mean it sounds like you're scared of srs overall, and that's ok because it's a big invasive surgery, but the axe wound meme kinda is exactly that a meme. Your vagina will look fine if you go to a decent surgeon
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>>8061530
well at least you can feed ur breast with muncgie boexes
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>>8061520
Either way, keep up the hard work and stay boymode/closeted.
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>>8061536
I'm not going to get fat
I'm gonna get EVEN MORE SLIM
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how the heck do you deal with the weird feelings e gives you

my head is a mess right now >_>
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>>8061514
Just go to a good surgeon
Also stem cell vaginas are only the inside
They outside like labia and clit are always made from dick stuff
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>>8061542
Iktf ;-;
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>>8061542
That's only for the first few months
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9S did absolutely nothing wrong, discuss
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>>8061561
I want them to go away this sucks ahhhhhhh >_>
I think I'm starting to like guys and want a boyfriend to cuddle with but I've never had an actual relationship before and I don't know what the heck to do especially if this really is just a temporary thing.

can someone talk/slap some sense in to me please
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>>8061542
what weird feelings?
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>>8061580
I'm pretty sure this is not temporary
Sry, you're straight now
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>>8061580
Calm down. Having a BF can be very nice and make you feel great, don't let doubt or fear get in the way of you being happy with him.
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>>8061521
;______; this is true. Guess I need to keep saving

>>8061534
Accurate I guess yeah. For some reason I've rationalized in my head that stem cell vaginas would be a lot easier.

>>8061545
That's a good point about the labia (clit wouldn't really be affected by orchi I wouldn't think?).
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>>8061524
that's fair but I think St John wart can cause issues with estrogen absorption or smth

also sry for slow replies I'm at work
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big uwu
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>>8061583
-> >>8061580

>>8061584
>>8061588
I don't think I'm ready for a relationship, regardless of whether I want one.
People aren't toys and I'm not exactly in the best of spots right now.
I need to focus and work but I can't stop thinking about this and I hate it.
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>Have to keep going to electrolysis because the same areas keep popping right back up and its been a year of constant treatment

I should probably look into a different one if the exact same follicles keep spring up hair right? I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be a one shot thing on each hair
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>>8061594
im jealous of what you and anna have.
you're both too cute.

I wish CFH lived in Paris so I could get a hug. I miss talking to people and hugs.
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>>8061401
I'm not Georgia!
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wtf i love trump now
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>>8061598
>electrolysis
there's your problem.
It would be fixed with laser
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>>8061611
H-Heh thank you very much
Maybe you and CFH could meet up sometime for hugs and a nice lil talk?

also nice dubs c:
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>>8061621
France might be the size of Texas but it's still pretty big, imo. It'd be hard to meet her.

Plus she's too pretty, I think I'd just creep her out or something.
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>>8061618
kek, cucks
t. neocon
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>>8061618
What happened, I'm confused
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I really don't want to lose another cat right now
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>>8061619
youi know electro is actually more effective than laser
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>>8061624
if you visit england we can chill for a bit

and unlike CFH, I won't make you feel bad because I'm not attractive at all :^ )

>>8061627
he bombed Syria

>>8061629
(hugg)
it's ok eva kitty's gonna be immortal
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>>8061624
I think that you could maybe at least try to get in touch with her, it could be worth it in the end c:

awww ;m;
maybe try chatting with her on /mtfg/, try to get a bit friendlier, and I'm sure you won't "creep her out"

's gonna be okay
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>>8061633
I already lost my favorite cat last year, now this, it's too much
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>>8061631
I think it's the other way around, isn't it?
Also sorry I didn't respond on skype I have so much going on lately (tho ironically I spend a lot of my time here)

>>8061633
I haven't been in england in 4 years. Manchester was nice. I miss it.

>he bombed syria
Why are they surprised, weren't they expecting that?
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>>8061627
Trump ordered airstrikes on an airforce base in Syria where planes were being based that were being used to gas civilians.

The intervention was pretty well done, Russian forces in the area were given advance warning and AFAIK there were almost none or none civilian casualties and it accomplished what it was meant to do.

Democrats and a fair amount of Pro-Ruskie Trump supporters are pissed.

In my country, our government supports the airstrikes and our Liberal party has also supported them (though they did criticize that they were done unilaterally).
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>>8061629
>>8061637
This is why I won't have pets anymore. I'm sorry anon.
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>>8061637
(hugg)
it's gonna be ok

>>8061638
oh well I'm nowhere near manchester rn and I'll be near south london over summer

and Trump said he wasn't gonna bomb Syria.
Despite the fact this is Trump we're talking about, his supporters are shocked since him lying is unheard of.
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>>8061638
no, electrolysis is the only treatment that's called permanent
it costs more and takes longer though
laser isn't as effective, especially since it doesn't help against lighter hair
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>>8061641
But... that's a good thing he bombed the thing.
Are Milo and the other guy pro-russian?
I'm bad in politics tbqh lol

>>8061647
Well the laser hair removal salon I go to say it's permanent. And it definitely works from my experience.
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>>8061643
>>8061644
It's just too much on top of everything else, I spent most of last night crying only to get up and learn my cat is sick with no idea if they will be okay or not...
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It's cute and sad that repression gen is just a cry for help and they all admit they want to stop repressing and transition anyway
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>>8061651
laser somewhat worked for me for darker hair
but i feel like a lot of it is coming back and the lighter hair wasn't afected at all
but now my health insurance pays for electro

you know, salons tell you exactly what you want, because they want the money
but studies show only electro is really permanent
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who here /crusade/
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>>8061651
Yeah, Milo and pretty much all of those are part of the Alt-Right.

Alt-Right figures are more or less all pro-Russian and are generally funded by the Ruskies so now they're falling over themselves to denounce this.
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>>8061651
laser is permanent reduction, electrolysis is considered permanent removal by fda
>>8061659
>ut now my health insurance pays for electro
>tfw insurance is garbage that does not help at all
:(
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>>8061659
Aw, weird.
I hope there's electrolysis near me then .s.

>>8061664
thank you for the confirmation.
but it takes longer tho, right?

>>8061662
I see. Never understood why they're pro-russian. I've considered myself kinda centre in my political opinion. But i've always thought the russians are kinda assholes.
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>>8061671
Funding mostly
also Russia is pretty nationalist so they tend to admire Putin
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>>8061671
I think laser is much faster time wise, they both still take a year though since hair follicle cycle in or something
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>>8061598
yes go to a new person
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>>8061679
so I'm gonna need both laser and electro (or just electro) on my pubes?
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>>8061664
mine should pay, but idk if they'll do it without lots of trouble

>>8061671
do laser first and get the rest away with electro
electro alone could take years and LOTS of money
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>>8061679
>>8061686
If you want to optimize your time I'm pretty sure the best option if your hair is dark is to just get laser for 90% of the hair (probably like 6-8 sessions) then electro the rest.
For pubic hair I don't know if anyone will do laser or electro down there. Most places I saw explicitly excluded getting those areas lasered, idk about electro.
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>>8061686
I'd do laser then follow up with electro
>>8061693
I'll never be able to get srs the way they have it set up...
I really don't know what to do at all :(

>>8061696
the laser place I've started going to say they do laser there, I made sure to ask since need it for surgery I think...
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>>8061708
Ooh that's true, they do typically need that area cleared of hair for srs. Though I thought it was done by the surgeons office, maybe other hair removal places are following suit.
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>>8061662

Is that the case? Fuck... where's my money? I've been getting ripped off for siding with Russia's support of a secular leader fighting against Islamic nutcases funded by the Saudis.

WHERE'S MY MONEY PUTIN?
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I feel broken
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>>8061708
hmm, that's bad

you normally don't need electro for surgery
most surgeons remove any hair they don't want during the surgery
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>>8061696
>>8061693
>>8061708
Alright. I'll definitely need a job at some point.
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>>8061651
what Carol is missing out is that there hasn't been time for any investigation into the initial chemical attack yet and nobody has claimed responsibility for it, so we don't know if it was done by Assad's forces, one of the many scattered rebel groups, or even by Putin to stir the shit. Trump unilaterally authorised an airstrike on one of Assad's airfields based on a massive assumption that could provoke unnecessary conflict and that's what's got people upset.
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It's never too late, girls.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/07/moment-that-changed-me-diagnosed-with-autism-at-45
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>>8061079
W-what?
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>>8061724
Well I was (kinda) diagnosed when I was 6
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>>8061721
I think most American surgeons want it done by electro in advance, and iirc Chet and Suporn remove it themselves during the surgery. Idr exactly though.
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>>8061721
i know for a fact SRS here in the netherlands requires electrolysis on the perineum.
This depends on the surgeon is suppose in other countries
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>>8061720
(hugg)
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>>8061724
My dad needs an autism diagnosis honestly
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>>8061723
well, assad's an asshat anyway
here in germany politicians said something about assad already comitted enough warcrimes to deserve being overthrown anyway
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Does this mean I should hang out in the chaser general?
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>>8061724
what exactly is autism anyway ?
i mean i know it has something to do with not understanding others feelings or sth, but what is it exactly
how would i know i have it ?
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>>8061738
What you should do is delete your life to be honest.
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>>8061726
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxoODPQ4CTM
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>can never afford srs
>state requires it for legal stuff
>just a diagnosis isn't enough
>going to get misgendered by the state to the grave
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>>8061745
It's deviating a certain variable amount from what's socially acceptable.

You know you have it when a doctor decides you do and writes it on a piece of paper.
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>>8061748
But anon
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I'm kinda scared of a ww3.
I'm not really longing for death
or being forced to go to war
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>>8061751
Move state?

Wait till the law changes?
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>>8061758
It'd give my life meaning ngl tbqh pham
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>>8061748
don't be mean beany is lovely
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>>8061760
>Move state?
has to be birth state
>Wait till the law changes?
very unlikely
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>>8061651
one of the main reasons ppl voted for Trump was because he said he would not go to war in Syria and anger Russia

so basically this proved to his supporters that he is just a liar
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>>8061766
Serves them right for knocking out the better candidates in the primary.
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>>8061764
He just kinda spams Grindr screen caps, post gross pics of himself, and creeps on people. I don't really see anything lovely desu
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>>8061764
Heh.

Morning boo

>>8061766
Catch me up I haven't seen a TV in like months at this point

Trump won?
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>>8061765
Enjoy being a femboy I guess!
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>>8061766
I hate russians and I understand the fear of angering them considering they have the Satan2 nuke that could annihilate the entirety of Texas or France

But Assad needs to be stopped.
As well as ISIS
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>>8061769
You haven't seen me high

I'm like deep and shit

And I flip off the things which make people laugh
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>>8061753
just read about it and it doesn't sound like what you describe
hm, anyway, no doctor ever said something in that way to me
not even my psychologist
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>>8061771
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>tfw dont have to go to school today
Feels naisu man
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so i watched blaire's video.
she didn't say anything controversial in her video.
like, everything she said was true.
also, i would throw transtrenders under the bus.
for the most part, they're the cause of most of conservatives' problems w/ trannies, & they aren't medically transgender, which means they aren't really trannies, they just think messing w/ gender norms is fun & cool, & they want to tell lesbians that they're being bigots for not wanting to date trannies.
transtrenders are a scourge.
idk what think about cispeople on hormones, but as long as they stay quiet, i don't mind them i guess
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>>8061769
he's in a rough spot right now and needs love + support
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>>8061777
Same~
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>>8061781
I half-agree with her.
Because I don't think being trans is mental disorder. And saying that is kinda like people trying to find the 'gay gene' and stuff
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>>8061782
Everyone here is but this is /mtfg/ not homeless beaner general
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>>8061769
Smeone should dox him.
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>>8061790
bean is nice tho

>>8061791
how do you even doxx a homeless person lmao. Plus bean never hides where he is or anything. He just doesn't give a fuck if some anons hate him
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>>8061774
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism
>Autistic toddlers differ more strikingly from social norms; for example, they have less eye contact and turn-taking,
>Making and maintaining friendships often proves to be difficult for those with autism.
>Resistance to change; for example, insisting that the furniture not be moved or refusing to be interrupted.
>Interests or fixations that are abnormal in theme or intensity of focus, such as preoccupation with a single television program, toy, or game.
tl;dr "that weird kid: the diagnosis"
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>>8061794
hugg
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>>8061791
i think he's somewhere in LA or sth
Ha, i'm so bad
i totally doxxed him
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>>8061799
That definitely fits me
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>>8061795
he's gross and creepy. if you mistake that for being nice that's something to take it up with a therapist.
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i want to FUCK link
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>>8061804
Of course it does. You're a 4channer, AKA that weird kid.

Go get diagnosed and collect your welfare check.
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>>8061807
same
Trap Link is hot af
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>>8061807
I want some fucking hot ass pizza
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>>8061786
there aren't really any genes that make someone gay, but there are genes that contribute to you being heterosexual, & if those genes are messed w/ or blocked out, you could turn out gay.
same thing w/ being trans, but it's a bit more complicated.
anyway, she said that it's gender dysphiria, not being transgender, & that it's disorder in that it causes distress, like when you look in the mirror.
other than that, it's basically your brain functioning perfectly the way it was built, which in itself doesn't constitute a disorder
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>>8061805
>he's gross and creepy
To you. (Also homeless people are generally gross, they can't really help that.)

Also most trips here like him so... that's kinda your problem tbqh
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>>8061791
I'm in the starbucks on Vermont and Prospect

>>8061795
<3

>>8061790
>>>/r9k/>>36088816
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>>8061799
i'm pretty weird in some ways either, but nothing about the strange things on me are autistic, even the opposite
so just being weird is not autistic
but being autistic seems weird

seems like it's more about repitition and not getting social clues
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>>8061809
Can I really get payed to be autistic?
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>>8061790
>homeless beaner general
o i am laffin
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>>8061822
Yeah, become a computer programmer
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>>8061815
I think if there is indeed a gene for being het there must be one for being gay then.

I like to think being trans is a gene thing also. It's easier and better to explain it.
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>>8061818
That's ok, there are plenty of other disorders for other strange things. Have a browse of Wikipedia and find your star si- disorder.

>>8061822
Maybe, depends on where you live and how "badly" your "autism" effects your life.
>>
wet
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>>8061828
yeah and nims dad was trans which is why nim is
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>>8061810
stop calling her that she really doesnt like being called a trap
>>8061811
i have a pizza rn but you cant have it :p
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>>8061816
Most trips here don't like him. They just ignore him. People like you just keep feeding him attention so he won't leave.
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>>8061835
>ywn eat pizza with link and beep
jdimsa
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>>8061832
idk if being weird is always a disease
i mean i'm most likely depressive, but that's pretty much it i think
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>>8061834
Never said it was hereditary. Some genes can differ. I have freckles and nobody in my family has had freckles for instance.
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>>8061835
He's a crossdresser
hence a trap
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>>8061836
he's not THAT bad
at first I hated him, but he's not malicious...he's just a lost little puppy with nowhere to go
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>>8061834
>>8061828
no, she just inherited faulty cis genes
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>>8061836
... says an anon.
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r9k is biting :3

>>8061836
This is kinda true
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>>8061834
maybe nim's dad was gay too, which is why nim is gay
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>>8061845
shes just using it as cover please understand and respect her pronouns
>>8061837
>never eat pizza with nonny
WHY LIVE
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>>8061840
It is and if it ever weren't, it would be a new one. Depressive is already in though, so no need for a new one or any more searching.
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>>8061847
he's not terrible but he is definitely annoying. he shits up the thread a lot
>>8061849
>as a trip i have special status!
just stop
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I want a boy to grip my hips in his big hands and just fuck me senseless
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>>8061853
Keep this meme alive
>>8061849
Get shat on hater anon suck my MASSIVE Cock
>>8061847
I deserve a hug and a warm meal love me just please love me
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>>8061860
this

or a gril too
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>>8061817
>>8061851
>trips can't crossboard Link
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>>8061860
This.

This is kinda why I stay dammit

Are you in LA?

I need to catch a train to like another state
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>>8061790
Of course everyone here has it a bit rough.
That's why we should be nice and friendly to everyone.

Meanposting is bad.

If bean feels like he likes being here and is friendly, I have no problems with him even if he's not actually one of us.
Yes he has times where he steps out of line, but he realises when he's gone too far and apologises. He's far better than people like Cartman and Drake who just come here to hurt people.
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>>8061860
same
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>>8061860
please, i'm eating breafast
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>>8061869
but literally all he does is creep on people? it isn't friendly all he does is shit up the thread
at least cartman doesn't post much and rarely attacks people and drake isn't here all day every day
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>>8061865
Oh fuck off

>>>/r9k/36088816
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>>8061772
that is a reasonable sentiment but I think we need to consider what happened the last time USA invaded a middle eastern country to force regime change

also there are surely better plans than randomly bombing them
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>>8061878
Nu-uh

I only creep on them when they respond mostly

And fuck off like two days ago I had this bitch in heat along with like have the thread rumad little dick?
>>8061877
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>tfw giant nose so you can easily see inside
>tfw lots of dark hairs in nose again
Gonna have to pluck them I guess
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>>8061880
/hbg/
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>>8061888
You are the worst poster
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What's does HSTS mean?
Something to do with being straight and it being bad?

Is it now bad that i'm a mostly straight transwoman? I thought hating transbians was the fad recently?
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>>8061868
bean I like you but it world be nice if you posted about sex a little less
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tfw not eating dick for breakfast
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Finna kms
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>>8061880
>Oh fuck off
Why don't you just filter me :^)
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>>8061899
Hey Jaime
^^
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>>8061896
hating transbians will never go out of style
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>>8061888
like I said only the most desperate for attention talk to you
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>>8061896
Ask here >>8061645
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>>8061898
BAD feel
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>>8061783
Ayy
More socializing time ^-^
What time can you get on?
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>>8061896
hsts is a Blanchard thing which basically says straight trannies are actually men who are so gay they want to be women

just ignore anyone who uses it around seriously
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>>8061897
I will I have heard this enough to change this about my posting, I used to lewd post a lot less an will go back to doing so this seems to be what has so many roles up
>>8061894
Yea well, that's like, you're opinion (so)man.
>>8061901
Because I like you >_<
>>8061891
It's happening
>>8061898
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>>8061896
HSTS -> HeteroSexual TranSexual.

Aka a transgirl that likes guys, or a transguy who likes girls.

And don't let people tell you who to like. If you like guys, that's fine, if you like girls that's fine. Just make sure you are happy and comfortable with who you're with.
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>>8061781
>for the most part, they're the cause of most of conservatives' problems w/ trannies

wrong
the reason conservatives have a problem with trannies is because they upset patriarchical notions of gender and gender roles.
Throwing other people under the bus serves literally no purpose other than being an asshole.
>>
I'm so tired it feels like my face is going to melt off
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>>8061912
isn't it homosexual, as in they were gay men before transition and had/have no attraction to women
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>>8061912
>Hetero
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stop liking women
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>>8061751
Same
That's what I get for being born in the bible belt
>>8061896
HSTS is a meme term like AGP
>>8061898
>tfw not sucking dick RIGHT NOW
>>8061860
l-lewd
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>>8061912
it means homosexual transexual see >>8061910 please don't answer people if you don't know what you're talking abt
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>>8061921
but i don't like woman.

i like a woman.

guess who :3
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>>8061902
Hiyaaa
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>>8061921
>Blanchard: "Stop liking women or men, it makes you a fetishist."
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>>8061904
Why are you trying to make people feel bad again anon?

Wanna be friends instead? :]

How's ur day going and stuff [:
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>>8061913
for some reason in so many cases people think punching down will solve all their problems
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>>8061913
>the reason conservatives have a problem with trannies is because they upset patriarchical notions of gender and gender roles.
I don't really think this is true at all
for the vast majority I would say its because they think we're weird/gross and it doesn't really go too far beyond that
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>>8061927
How r you
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>>8061928
STOP
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>>8061923
I've only ever heard HSTS as heterosexual.
Plus since it is referring to transwomen who like men, yeah that's heterosexual.
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>>8061932
> its because they think we're weird/gross and it doesn't really go too far beyond that

obviously they don't understand it themselves, but this feeling is essentially what i described.
Our existence upsets all their assumptions and thus we are "gross/weird" to them

>>8061931
yeah honestly idgi it's pathetic 4chan behavior where they try to be "the good tranny" instead of just realizing which side they are on lmao.
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>>8061932
the reason they find us weird and gross is because
>we upset patriarchical notions of gender and gender roles
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>>8061940
>since it's referring to transwoman who like men yeah that's heterosexual.

But the thing is Blanchard thinks we're men. So to him that's 'homosexual'
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>>8061947
well that's not very nice of him :(
guess I was wrong
and sad too now
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>>8061940
no you are just completely wrong

google Blanchard typology and learn something
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>>8061940
>>8061947
both wrong. it's because straight transgirls are mentally similar to gay men.
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>>8061950
It's okay. Blanchard is just an asshole and nobody should listen to him.
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>>8061943
idk maybe
I mean...do we? it seems like the majority of people who transition would prefer to have the typical "role" of the gender they're transitioning to
maybe I don't really understand what you're saying
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>>8061909
I gotta shower n stuff so I'll probably be up to play in a few hours ^~^
>>
>>>/r9k/36088816 :3

It's working :3
>>
Is it possible to get like electrolysis in my nostrils?
>>
Who here /beingcrushedbythedesiretobewiththeoneyoulove/
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>>>/r9k/36089323
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>>8061971
me
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>>8061962
just transitioning itself can be seen as upsetting their ideas about gender roles, especially for those who dont see trans ppl as anything but their birth gender
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>>8061962
>it seems like the majority of people who transition would prefer to have the typical "role" of the gender they're transitioning to

not really no
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>>8061963
Yeah same ^.^
>>
>>>/r9k/36089373

The ball.

The ball is starting to roll...
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>>8061976
I guess I can see that

>>8061978
you'd be fine in a stereotypically "male" role??
I would absolutely hate that honestly
>>
>>>/r9k/36089490

BAN
CAROLINE
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>>8061962
hm, i don't really defy gender norms more than other women my age
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>>8061968
http://a.co/2AsBg3g
go crazy
>>8061971
tfw dont love anyone
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>>8061994
Lmao
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>>8061996
maybe my perspective is off, but I wouldn't consider things like working full-time to be defying a female gender role
I'm talking more about things like wanting to be the little spoon, wanting to feel protected rather than feeling like the protector, etc
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>>8061962
Thats only repressed people like me who do want to fight it.
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hi im here now
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>>8061978
please be my gf
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>>8062012
okok, he's very nice lady
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>>8062011
morNIM :^ )
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>>8062011
ayy holla up
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>>8062006
Do you want to be the little spoon
>>
Someone suggest me some less normal but still tasty cheeses and toppings for the pizza I am making tomorrow. Nothing too heavy, I like super thin crusts for my 'za and big things like whole meatballs don't play well
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>>8062011
hi nim the threads being really gay right now and idk what to do with myself
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>>8061994
lol wtf
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>>8062023
yes of course
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>>8062025
Whoops meant to post this on /ck/
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>>8062025
Goat cheese is tasty
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>>8062016
>>8062019
ayyyyyy hru desu

>>8062015
ok that's better but not ideal

>>8062027
ok beep don't be scared just close your eyes and put your hands on your ears
>>
You know, I've seen a number of trans girls say they want the traditional housewife lifestyle, but I've never seen any of them take the steps to achieve it...
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>>8062034
is that feta cheese?
feta is good tasting af but I can never really taste it when its on a pizza
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>>8062031
Being the little spoon is the best honestly
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>>8062037
posting on 4chan is the first step desu
>>
>tgfw monster jaw for biting Myrthe with
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>>8062034
True. Might give that a try

>>8062039
Feta is sheepsmilk I believe
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>>8062039
Nah feta cheese is another kind
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>>8062037
All Im missing is a husband who pays the bills.
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>>8062035
not great >_>
you?
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>>8062037
hmm, idk if i'd want that
especially not until i could have kids in some way
seems pretty boring to be alone at home all day
i'd rather have a nice job where i don't earn much but it's fun and my then to be husband has a job where he earns a lot
on the other side i don't care too much about stuff and don't plan anything like that
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>>8062049
what's wrong?

i just woke up and i have a lesson with zheanna today but my mom is still home for some reason so im a lil annoyed
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>>8062056
Let us know how it goes if you can! I hope she tried that new technique you've been talking about
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>>8062048
Your dad is close enough, I think.
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>>8062048

Right, but if you want that, you're gonna have to be aggressive in finding one. They won't just fall in your lap...
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>>8062043
she bite me and i uwu
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>>8062072
how to aggressively find boy to marry?
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>>8062056
I hope you've been doing your homework
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>>8062067
yeah i will! im excited but i really want my mom to go because if she doesn't then i can't do the lesson x-x

>>8062077
uhhh >.> <.<
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*marries u all*
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>>8062040
It makes me feel so safe and comfy to be wrapped up by some huge guy
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>>8062085
Why scared of mom? I understand being embarassed, my parents being home prevents me from doing ALOT of stuff I want to do, but if she knows why you're doing it then maybe it won't be so bad.
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>>8062088
OOPS WRONG PICTURE LMAO
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>>8062093
she wouldn't be supportive of me coming out
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>>8062040
Cuddling up while facing eachother having your head at chest level is even better
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>>8062088
i'm pretty sure that's illegal
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>>8062089
Yeah, feeling his arm around my chest is a feeling worth killing for
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>>8062088
wtf why do you have that
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>>8062100
maybe ur illegal
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>>8062100
>>8062105
lmao what was the picture
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>>8062088
hot
is that picture allowed on a blueboard
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>>8062088
wtf I don't do poly
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pls take a sip babes

>>8062100
no wait you dont understand
>>8062105
its kinda cute. am an art aficionado
>>8062107
real cute
>>8062114
stop
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>>8062117
But I wanna know what it was
>>
wew I don't think my thighs have ever been this big before
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>>8062070
Yeah but like, Im almost 24. Most princesses in my position would have been married off almost a decade ago. Besides, my dads supposed to pay for my mom- not me.

>>8062072
k well I got a good one coming in around June, ill sink some claws and hooks into him then so that he can never forget me and has to marry me.
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>>8062127
post thighs
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>>8062127
uwu post them
>>8062120
a cute lewd marco
>>
>>8062139
I love femboy marco
>>
>>8062128

Better start practicing on making home cooked meals and house cleaning.
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>>8062127
I had giant thighs before I started but that was because muscle since I used to do a lot of cycling/leg exercises

idk how I feel about them being gone or them being all squishy
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>>8062127
i think mine were bigger before HRT
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>>8062159
can I get in between those
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>>8062144
someone stream the show for me to watch >.< is it agp to watch kids cartoons
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>>8062164
I love to watch cartoons desu
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>>8062127
good feeling I bet right anon? :)

Tbh I wish mine were thiccer. But when I gain weight it all goes to my stomach
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>>8062173
Same :( I never understood the belly fat problem women complained about until I started HRT and now I'm like "PLEASE GO AWAY"
>>
>>8062173
>>8062178
post thighs
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>>8062162
no
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>>8062178
It's awful, especially because testosterone is supposed to be what makes it go to your stomach but I just had blood work and mine is completely suppressed. And I do squats and lunges but it seems they just don't get bigger :\
>>
>tfw skelly so no thighs
>tfw still have thigh gap
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>>8062188
tfw thicc thighs so no gap
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i think this pizza went to my boobs
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>>8062186
Yeah I don't get it either. I too had a test just last week and T was at just 9 ng/dl so it makes me think my body wants more E perhaps

>>8062179
No because some people mite recognize me...
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>>8062128
Fair points.
I guess I'm just jealous that your family is on the supportive side of things. My mom literally told me yesterday that she feels bad letting me starve, but that she wants me to feel desperate. Then when I told her how scared I was of getting a slave wage job and dealing with the shitshow there, she told me that I knew exactly what would happen when I made this lifestyle choice.
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>>8062193
I'm pretty sure reposting old pizza is illegal
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>>8062195
if people would recognize you then you have probably already posted stuff like that in this thread anyways
so lets see those thighs
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>>8061990
>you'd be fine in a stereotypically "male" role??
I'm against the idea of gender roles in general
I'd be fine doing whatever the fuck I want without idiots erasing my identity because of it desu
>>8062014
hi
>>
>>8062193
I'm jealous :(
>>
>>8062192
tfw give beep a piggback ride and lollipops and pat her hed a few times so she knows everything is gonna be alright
>>
>>8062193
>all that grease
ew
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>>8062199
im just hoping that posting it again will somehow make it be real again

i wanna eat it again so bad it was so tasty
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>>8062188
I have a lil thigh gap. Wish I had hip bones so it was a real big gap instead of what I have :c

>>8062193
I wish pizza went somewhere other than my belly and upper back

>>8062195
Mhm I was at 8ng/dl
What's your estrogen dose? Upping it might help, fingers crossed for you
Tbh I'm just giving up on gaining weight, I'll be a skelly with skelly thighs forever. My estrogen is pretty good (I take 6mg a say) so I don't know where else to turn
>>
>>8062201
sertii
>>
>>8062210
nim hi
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>>8062204
omg shut up that's the garlic butter.
>>
>>8062207
i have a lil one too

hoping to get meme growth in my hip bones
>>
>>8062219
Garlic and butter is a form of grease
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>>8062207
>I have a lil thigh gap.
post gap
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>>8062214
sertii hru
>>
>>8062207
Also 6mg a day, even if levels are in a good range I still feel tempted to try 8 just because why not. And yep gaining weight is really tough, I don't really want to spend the money every day on so much food to overeat when it might go to my stomach anyways
>>
>>8062219
oh ok carry on then
if it's got garlic in it it's a ok
>>
>>8062225
was kind of a bad day, felt pretty dysphoric today and also stressed by my upcoming exam.
Also I'm extremely jealous of your pizza picture.
wbu
>>
>>8062229
i just woke up and im eating breakfast

im gonna have a voice lesson with zheanna today too

im sure you'll do fine on your exam :3
>>
>>8062223
no
>>
>>8062201
is that a yes?
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>>8062222
I think you're younger than I was when I started so I'm sure you'll get better results. I'm rooting for you!!

>>8062226
Ahhh SAME food is too expensive. Unless I just wanna eat peanut butter all day or something to get fat but again you're right, it going to my stomach makes it not worth it

Honestly go for 8 if you think it'll help, at least temporarily. My doc was willing to give me more but I wasn't sure if I should... Maybe I'll self med a bit more if it seems like 8 works

Like my whr is not bad, but my shoulder hip ratio is, and I desperately want another couple inches on my hips to balance it out. But I don't think it's happening :\
>>
>>8062239
im 20 D:
>>
I'm a fag honestly
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>>8062148
Already on it!

>>8062198
I dont blame you for being jealous, I got pretty lucky there. I contemplated being kicked into the streets for a long time, I told myself Id jump into porn if they did. My brother stole thousands of dollars from them when he was addicted to heroin though and they still didnt throw him into the streets. My father is a very distant man, but he loves his children.

Also, like, if he had disowned me... I think my mom would have left him. I dont like to think about it, because I dont want that to be the reason he didnt disown me. But things are what they are.
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>>8062244
I started 3 weeks before my 22nd birthday, so you got 2 years on me! And I did get an itsy bit of hip growth even starting that late so I'm sure you have more in you
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>>8062236
oh also i bought a swimsuit today (one of those that covers the belly idk what they are called).
Im visiting a friend in greece who runs a windsurfing club so i'll be staying on a beach for like 3 days lmao.
Plan is swimsuit+surfer's shorts over that.
I had my first voice lesson yesterday actually, was pretty neat! Good luck with yours.

>>8062238
sorry no i'm not really up for any relationship at all atm and definitely not with someone who doesn't live close by.
>>
>>8062252
my puberty started early tho ;-;
>>
>>8062255
like a one piece?

id be nervous to show bobs D:
>>
>>8062256
Awe but that isn't a death sentence. You'll be alright
>>
>>8062236
tell her beep says hi and beep says shes cute
>>
>>8062265
ok i will
>>
tfw no xbox hueg muscle butt
>>
>>8062263
it feels like it sometimes

i feel really manly x-x
>>
>>8062255
why not a bikini?
i like those more
and you could actually wear board shorts + bikini top, which some girls actually wear
swimsuit + board short looks pretty suspicious
>>
WHY AREN'T ANY ANONS POSTING THIGHS OR THIGH GAPS RIGHT NOW REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
>>8062280
cuz it's private wtf
>>
>>8062280
I don't want people masturbating to my pictures (unless he's cute)
>>
>>8062280
Reserved for a potential BF who may or may not ever show up
>>
>>8062282
ya but you cuties are talking about thigh gaps and i wanna see em wtf
>>
>>8062259
yeah one piece with padding actually :D
>>8062275
I considered that but i really don't like my belly atm
plus it won't actually be that warm and like, ppl there will know i'm obviously trans but i'm ok with that.
I'll prolly be wearing a tank top over all that anyway, it's still too cold to swim i think
>>
the guy working at taco bell stared at my boobs even though I was wearing my favorite boob-hiding hoodie
idk how to feel
>>
>>8062285
I'm a cute boy
I'll masturbate to your pictures
pls respond
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>>8062292
aaahhhhhhh
>>
Someone kill me
>>
>>8062291
no
>>
>>8062303
ok, but you have to come here
>>
>>8062303
*HUG*
>>
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>>8062248
I've thought about getting into porn to be honest, but it would destroy my chances of success as a journalist.

You're very fortunate to have a parent that's supportive. My mom still deadnames me and refers to me as a guy pretending to be a girl and doesn't care. She's to self-absorbed to care about what I'm going through, and she never will care. She loves me because she has to. I fucking hate her.

I have literally nothing going for me aside from being cute, and even that's tainted.
>>
marina lives under my bed
>>
>>8062285
pls...I'm cute..
>>
tfw no ffs
>>
>>8062301
:D
>>
>>8062319
You're completely full of yourself lmao
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>>8062325
but then they'll know

THEY'LL KNOW
>>
>>8062328
Kill yourself.
>>
>>8062319
>You're very fortunate to have a parent that's supportive. My mom still deadnames me and refers to me as a guy pretending to be a girl and doesn't care. She's to self-absorbed to care about what I'm going through, and she never will care.
hey, your mom and my dad should meet because they seems to be pretty much the same person
>>
>>8062331
idk feels nice having people wondering if you're a girl or a boy
better being a weirdo than a boy desu
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>>8062321
no I shouldn't encourage this behavior
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>>8062337
they wouldn't be wondering with me x-x
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>>8062339
-_-
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>>8062334
My dad is worse, believe it or not.
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>>8062338
but you said you didn't want people masturbating to you unless their cute and i'm cute
which means you want me to masturbate to you
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>>8062339
they will imo, especially if you don't intentionally try to hide your bobs
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>>8062346
well, my mom was supportive but died shortly after i started transition
fml
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>>8062303
franzi, everything is going to be okay (maybe)

if it makes you feel any better, time is slowly and unhaltingly killing you anyway
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>>8062341
HOW
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>tfw no boy mode

;_;
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>>8062350
D:
That's awful... Are you doing ok?
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>>8062360
good feel
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>>8062361
not really, but i can't change it anyway
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>>8062349
just looks like gyno
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>>8062369
gotta wear something with padding nimmy
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good god caitlin jenner is a massive hon. i heard her voice recently and im like this person is an embarrassment to every tranny around. why is she a ""representative"" of us again?

BTW i think her family is right to hate her
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>tfw 7 months HRT but still just mosquito bites

G E N E T I C S
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>>8062313
I want to die because I'm stuck in uni tho. I can't get to you
>>8062315
;_;
>>8062355
Time is slow, yeah.
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>>8062376
NO CUZ THEN THEY'LL KNOW AND THEY'LL THINK IM A FREAK AND ILL FREAK OUT AND CURL UP IN A LITTLE BALL AND DIE
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>>8062360
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>>8061941
trying to be "one of the good ones" never works

also i don't think transtrenders are a significant enough thing to actually matter

i do feel sometimes nonbinary people think bc they're in the "trans spectrum" or whatever they can speak for all of us which is fucking annoying but i think its mostly a thing in places like tumblr and mostly comes from teenagers being stupid
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>>8062387
who gives a fuck what people think. just detransition already if you have a million and one fucking reasons not to be a woman
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>>8062383
mine have grown a decent amount in 6 but they're uneven :(
I'd almost rather have nothing desu
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>>8062381
because shes rich and hangs out with the kardashians
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>>8062400
That doesn't change anything about being a turbohon with a terrible voice
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how many ak-47s do i have to own before im considered trutrans

this shit is really confusing
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>>8062404
>why is she a ""representative"" of us again?
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>>8062404
yeah but shes representative of us because shes rich and a celebrity

i fucking hate her because she's right wing trash and a car murderer or whatever

but this is just how this shit has worked for a while

our "representatives" are all celebs and porkies
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>>8062398

they'll even out!
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>>8062387
well idk nim it sounds like you're going to be a pretty girl 2 years on hrt and still in """"boymode"""" because you're convinced people will notice and think you're a freak. You need to stop giving a fuck i think honestly and get over yourself at some point.
presenting is a really nice feeling if you start gradually and take steps. You need to actually take steps though.

I know this is difficult with your mother and all, but I'm afraid at this rate you'll be scared even when you do move out.

>>8062392
i've literally never seen a single transtrender and i've been to multiple support groups with over 20 people present.
And honestly yeah uncle toms are gross.
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>>8062387
-________-
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>>8062420
nim needs to move the fuck out of her home

she's basically in a similar situation to me desu
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>>8062420
>i've literally never seen a single transtrender
Doesn't mean they don't exist. Just that they don't live near you.
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>>8062427
yeah she has plans im pretty sure
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>>8062420
>You need to stop giving a fuck i think honestly and get over yourself at some point.

THIS. nim has this annoying massive ego about herself and is outright delusional and lazy about several transition related things. She's one of the worst trannies here t b h

Literally all of her problems could be solved by just fucking doing something, anything.
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>The year 2028
>an female equivalent of Anabolics has be created, "Female Steroid" it has been dubbed
>a hyper Estrogen, capable of reversing male puberty and bone shrinking
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>>8062433
thats pretty harsh desu
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>>8062420
i've been to a bigger trans event
and there were discussions and stuff
and one time some self described ftm who said about himself he's a trans activist raised his hand
But he had no sign of T use and wore those typical tumblr ftm clothes
a really form fitting suit with a shirt and a bowtie
so, i think i saw a transtrender
but idgaf 2bh
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>>8062433
you're just being needlessly mean

being scared and becoming kind of unhinged is pretty fucking normal as far as being new trans is
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>>8062438
It's the truth though. nim bitches constantly but never does anything and just blames something else for her problems instead of her own lazy ass. She needs to grow the fuck up and drop being a child about transition. No one else is going to do it for her.
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>>8062429
i just doubt they are visible enough to most people anywhere for them to affect people's view of us, which is the reason they are apparently hated.

>>8062433
well her mom is annoying, nim is doing a lot of stuff with her transition, she's just unable to do a lot of other stuff which is understandable.
She just has a lot of personal hangups esp also regarding sexuality.
I think this is a little mean desu

>>8062441
well i mean gatekeeping is a thing for ftms as well idk
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>>8062404
also, shes practically 70 years old what did you expect
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>>8062360
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>>8062444
Its really fucking not and you're a complete retard to try and pretend like this is acceptable or normal behavior.

Trannies in general need to bitch and moan less and get off their lazy asses and do more. It's not easy, no one is saying it is, but we're all adults here and need to start acting like it instead of whiny children.

The world at large is a harsh uncaring place, we do not have the luxury of being little pussies about everything.
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>>8062450
i mean i've argued with anons here who think the reason trans people are hated is because of "reddit hons" and "tumblr sjws"

like there was no transphobia at all before and it just sprang into existence because of some feminists with dyed hair on a blogging platform
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>>8062447
idk she's had to bike to a gender therapist, she does a lot of voice practice, she'll be able to do more once she's on her own idk what you expect honestly
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bigg plans
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>>8062458
I don't know, anon. Excessive complaining instead of finding productive solutions to problems seems like a very feminine trait to me.
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>>8062469
suicide pact while running away with college fund inside an airplane?
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>>8062469
uwu
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>>8062458
I'm pretty sure nim is actually doing plenty of things at this time, she just lives in a really shitty household that is holding her back. She'll get over her personal hangups when she has a healthier space to live.

You just kinda sound like you're entirely lacking in empathy desu.

Like yeah the world is shit and life is a god damn struggle but we can't expect everyone to be a warrior all the god damn time.
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>>8062450
i know, but he had like no sign the typical ftm has
like he had a typically fem pixie cut and the suit was burgundy

i mean, there are fem ftm (or just cis guys) but that seemed a bit over the top fem
especially in combination with "I'm a trans activist, and..."

so for me there's a spectrum, not in (and in it trans doesn't even play a role)
you can be male, fom super manly man to super feminine man
or you can be female, from super feminine woman to super manly woman
and if you're trans you're just the gender you choose
but i don't believe in agender or bigender or whatever, because that's not really possible to determine
you can be gender non conforming as much as you want though, idgaf
just some things are suspicious
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>>8062420
if i get into my university ill be out of my house at the end of august

but im on the waiting list so it's a 50/50 shot i get in
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>>8062472
I laughed.

>>8062479
You also don't need to be a whiny little bitch all the god damn time either. Mtfg encourages crying about problems instead of actually solving them.

Hugbox less, all it does is handicap trannies that have to deal with the harsh real world.
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>>8062462
the sheer amount of internalized transphobia exhibited here is insane, but i mean, this is 4chan so it's not all the surprising.
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>>8062487
budd
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>>8062473
unironically almost this :D
100% mentally ill

>>8062476
uwu indeed
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>>8062488
hi
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>>8062491
hi hru
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>>8062482
yeah i know, and you're doing a lot now and are planning to do more.
>>8062489
on a boat then instead?
this is actually so fucked up you two make me angry
>>8062487
yeah honestly this
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>>8062495
Anna is a horrible influence on her. It's sad to see Anna dragging someone so young down with her. It's like watching a bear friend date a drug dealer and seeing her degrade over the months.
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>>8062497
aren't they like the same age?
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>>8062497
But I'm only like a year older wtf
She can decide for herself

>>8062495
No suicide is plan b
Why angry? Because we don't participate in (((their))) schemes?
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>>8062497
I know the feeling, I know someone who is making a real effort to transition but they're hanging out with some real bad influences and I think they are making really bad choices, but I suppose you can't pick who your friends pick as their friends
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>>8062497
yeah pretty much
it's the reason i've grown to hate her
I told her to go see a therapist because she's fucked in the head really and will end up burdening the people she's close to with that and dragging them down and now she's actually influenced myrthe in a really bad way.
pretty depressing but nothing more to be done really.
Anna is older by only a year but myrthe is just really easy to influence desu so she may as well be a child comparatively.
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>>8062504
You honestly make me look mentally healthy.

You also don't seem to realize how influence in relationships work.

It seems you wanted to go down a self-destructive spiral straight to hell but needed to drag someone along with you.

Sad!
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>tfw you just did your vocal warmup where you have to sing like an opera singer and your mom didn't hear you
maybe her hearing is so shitty that i can just do my lesson with her here and she won't even notice
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>>8062383
How much you eat also plays a big part. I'm technically at 3 months and went from flat chest almost to B cups.
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>>8062512
just let them suicide together
its cute uwu
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>>8062495
im really only doing hrt and voice training

i got that consult with the laser place on tuesday too so probably that too soon
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>>8062514
perfect!
the next step is to test her eyesight by wearing eyeliner
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>>8062504
>Because we don't participate in (((their))) schemes?
If that's your logic suicide's literally the quitter's route in this case.
>dying instead of staying and fighting
Smh.
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>>8062510
I feel really sorry for you and Myrthe, but like you said nothing can be done. I hate Anna for the same reasons and agree with you assessment. I also think this suicide pact "meme" isn't a meme at all and both of them will end up killing themselves without some professional intervention soon. Such a shame to see a bright future snuffed out so soon by a lazy drug addict.
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>>8062519
Laser is an amazing miracle. You're going to love it. I only need to shave once a month now after 2 sessions.
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>>8062523
idk I think you might be taking this too seriously
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>>8062512
Well yeah I am an autist so I really don't understand
But she's a smart girl and I tell her a lot that I want her to be comfortable and that I don't wanna push her

>>8062510
Lmao rude

>>8062516
UwU

>>8062521
Yeah and what's wrong with quitting? I don't understand. It's just said to be bad cause (((they))) don't get paid anymore

>>8062523
(((Professional intervention)))
Oy vey!
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>>8062520
i tried putting on eyeliner once and it was an awful experience lol
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>>8062524
daaaamn that sounds seriously wonderful
how much do you pay per session/how long is it? I'm guessing you were talking about your face
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>>8062524
i just really want my shadow gone

it's made me feel bad for a long time
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>>8062493
im regular hru
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>>8062516
uwu

>>8062510
I am a child desu

But no really I do want to kms and doing it with Anna would make it a lot comfier and generally nicer. Not like my shrink took me seriously, anyway.
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>>8062519
nice! laser is a great feeling honestly after you get it.
>>8062523
i mean thankfully me and anna sort of pushed each other away pretty quickly so i just got kinda angry at her.
But like she talks a lot with Gloomy as well and that scares me although thankfully she's less of an influence and gloomy has me to counterbalance.
>>8062530
no dude this actually is pretty serious, she's dragging down myrthe HARD and neither realize it.
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>>8062540
>counterbalance
What, feeding her drugs and making her want to kill herself?
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>>8062537
im supposed to have a voice lesson soon but my mom wont leave the house

how do i get her to leave anne
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>>8062540
why is anna so bad?
ketamine and suicide posting seem to be pretty common here, I feel like its half-serious
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>>8062531
>Yeah and what's wrong with quitting?
Because it does nothing to alleviate the situation at large and is selfish. You'll have taken from society, from your nation, but given what back? A corpse whose purpose had not yet been served?
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lol @ suicide pact idk on the bright side I guess anna bjorg whatever will be dead but idk myrthe seems mostly alright
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>>8062542
what are puerto ricans afraid of?
use that to scare her
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>>8062524
how were your two sessions so fucking powerful

i still get facial hair after four

my mustache shadow is finally starting to disappear but im gonna need more work definitely

i dont even have thick facial hair
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>>8062542
tell her theres a huge sale at kohls
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>>8062533
It's something about like $40? Their advertised price on their website was $25 a session or something but I was too beta to leave since they told me the price increase after they started, but they gave me a 10% discount or something.

It takes only like 3 minutes after the first time, first time is like 10-15 minutes of paperwork and stuff.

I have relatively fair skin with darker hair so it works really well. And yes I meant the face. I don't even need it on my body since Asian genetics. ; ^)

>>8062534
You can use concealer?
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>>8062549
they're scared of gays and paying their island's debt
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>>8062530
>both say they plan on killing themselves and think professional help is a Jewish scheme

idk I think you aren't taking it seriously enough.

>>8062540
Anna is dangerously unstable and a danger to everyone around her. If at all possible try to cut ties between Gloomy and her. She's just too negative of an impact for anyone but the strongest most mentally stable tranny to associate with.

>>8062544
She's bad because she's 100% serious and encouraging others to do it also.
>>
sish died in my heart a long time ago anyway
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>>8062544
anna is literally chrischan, an autistic boy who we memed into transitioning
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tfw your boobs jiggle a lil
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>>8062531
>be insane person
>get told you need help
>start screaming about The Jews
you two need to break up so we can at the very least halven the number of corpses this,,, whatever the fuck this is, produces
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>>8062554
i can't really have any makeup in the house without risking stuff

i don't know like my shade either

i have dark hair and light skin too so ill probably have a good experience with laser anyway
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>>8062559
This. He was a fun experiment.
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>>8062552
>how were your two sessions so fucking powerful
Gook genes. Even without laser past 2 years+ of HRT my facial hair would come in fine and wispy and only need a shave once a month.
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>>8062555
perfect, you can uhh ""pretend"" to be gay and wave your hands up in the air and say ooga booga and she'll run right out
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>>8062553
is there really one
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>>8062560
tfw butt jiggles a lil
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>>8062561
Just let it happen lol
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>>8062540
yeah im sure i will

ive like always hated my shadow and the fact that no matter how close i got my shave i always had one
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>>8062545
>Because it does nothing to alleviate the situation at large
How does it not lol
If ur dead you can't be sad
Taken a useless mentally ill tranny who'd end up draining welfare isn't that bad

>>8062546
Rude Myrthe is more than just alright

>>8062556
But it is a jewish scheme

Also I'm pretty stably negative ayyy

>>8062557
Kek

>>8062559
All your fault anon

>>8062561
>(((communist))) trying to pretend the jews aren't involved
Like clockwork
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>>8062566
id have to put on my hoodie or my boobies would be visible uwu
>>
to be honest family the real loser in all this is Anne (the real Anna) who has to put up with this piece of shit using her name
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>>8062567
there's always great deals to be had at kohls, nim.
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>>8062572
do you really want to kill yourself?
did you really get memed into transitioning?
how is korfball going?
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>>8062560
uwu
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>>8062544
i mean if you have discussion with her about doing stuff for the future/improving your own situation/whatever you'll see how fucked in the head she is

it's like she spent months here autistically repressing and then she started transitioning a whole new slew of fucked up shit came to the surface that she refuses to deal with because she unironically does not want to talk to a therapist; even one that i personally know is a good guy and super accepting of pretty much everything and will listen to you and take you seriously.
>>8062571
same although it takes a lot of sessions for it to go away apparently. Just knowing you're doing it feels nice. Although i'm worried they dont do your neck, that could prove really inefficient for later if you cant get a place to charge cheaper for only doing that.
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>>8062572
>(((communist))) trying to pretend the jews aren't involved
it's funny because commies recycle old anti-jewish memes into anti-capitalist memes, while making fun of /pol/ for "hating the jews"

too bad they're not intelligent enough to understand their own hypocrisy
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>>8062577
i might just got to kohls with her then
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>>8062570
fuck off don't try to tell anyone what to do you're a literal child
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>>8062576
haha yeah RIP me

>>8062586
DO IT
>>
Ok im sorry i may be a retarded autistic unworldly girl/boy/person, but Anna is NOT pushing me to do ANYTHING.

I want to die out of my own will.
everyone's acting like Anna is constantly pushing me to like the idea of dying

She comforts me and she helps me get trough rough days. Almost no one here knows her like I do, so please don't pretend like you do :(

>>8062557
jfc anon ;-;
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>>8062587
K
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>>8062576
Shouldn't have called herself anne lmao and y'all called me anna in the first place

>>8062580
Yes.
Idk
Korfball a shit but better than being at home rn

>>8062583
>even one that i personally know is a good goy
Hehe funny

>>8062584
Commies were a jewish plan
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>>8062583
I feel like I got burned pretty bad from the last therapist I went to so idk how long it'll be before I'd be comfortable talking to one, so I kinda get that
but clearly I don't know enough about anna to know whats going on
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>>8062572
Honestly I wouldn't give half of a fuck about your very clearly severe mental illness if it wasn't for the fact you seem interested in dragging somebody down to hell with you and don't even seem to realize the unhealthy influence you wield and hide behind autism even when people are explicitly telling you this is, in fact, a thing
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>>8062589
You poor sweet child. So ignorant to everything. You will be missed.
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>>8062583
i really just want them to do under my jaw too

it'll be annoying but i can shave the few hairs i get on my neck without it being noticeable

it's just that if they don't do under my jaw too then ill have this random patch of hair under my chin lol

ill get clarification on stuff on tuesday, the reception didn't seem like she was confident on stuff, she had to ask other people
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>>8062584
then again, neither are /pol/dancers
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>>8062589
why don't you two make an ANTI-suicide pact? where you both agree not to kill yourselves?

could be even cuter than a regular suicide pact desu
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>>8062588
but muh voice lesson
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>>8062572
>Taken a useless mentally ill tranny who'd end up draining welfare isn't that bad
It is when that mentally ill tranny could get a job, go into politics, or influence the state of her nation in anyway. You have a defeatist attitude and are going to choose a cowardly alternative.
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>>8062589
What is the capital of Sweden, dear?
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>>8062601
oh right

well like i said, there's always great deals to be had at kohls!
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>>8062609
Stockholm c:
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>>8062589
no ever said she's pushing you to do anything. We said she's influencing you and that's a completely different thing.

Like i saw my sister turn from an atheist girl who was doing well in med school to someone who dropped out to serve the church of jehova and become a housewive. She was influenced by her fiance because he is her first love. You've been influenced by anna similarly. No one says this isn't your free choice.

>>8062597
you really should get them to do everything desu, otherwise idk how worth it is with how laser works.
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>>8062612
Okay, and do you know what I'm trying to say, by invoking the name of this city?
>>
>tfw thighs and butt getting thiccer
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>>8062612
Stockholm syndrome.
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>>8062594
But I don't see how it's a thing. What's bad about suicide and what's bad about running away and living a stress free life away from people we know? I just don't understand how I'm "dragging down" anyone.

>>8062600
We're trying something else first but why'd we torture ourselves like that?

>>8062606
I have a defeatist attitude cause my ideas of politics are way too fringe to ever have an influence so why'd I even try?
It's not cowardly to defeat the main fucking human instinct, if anything living on as an unhappy tranny just for the sake of others is cowardly. Suicide is just egoistic, and that's okay.

>>8062614
So what's the problem if she likes it
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>>8062619
>We're trying something else first
w-what are you trying?
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>>8062619
>What's bad about suicide
See
This is where the memes become dangerous
>>
>>8062620
they are planning on taking Anna's college fund (the money Anna's parents saved up for her to get a good education and job afterward) and running of with it LMAO.
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>>8062620
Running away and living together c:

>>8062623
Not an argument
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>>8062614
ill ask

it just sounds kind of ridiculous for them not to do everything uniform like that
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>>8062625
Suicide is bad ok
Having people suicide with you is bad ok
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>>8062626
yeah its super dumb, i hope they do it honestly otherwise its a waste :/
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>>8062615
Yes.
But Anna did not kidnap me or force me to go along with her in any way.

>>8062619
>I just don't understand how I'm "dragging down" anyone
this bby

>>8062620
Something nicer :)

>>8062624
also mine uwu
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>>8062624
>>8062625
wtf I thought this was a joke
seems pretty short-sighted if you have no way of making more money doesn't it??

why don't you two just go to the same college instead
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>>8062623
see?
you've been warned.
you've all been warned that memes are bad
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>>8062631
maybe the lady will be more reasonable in person

if i end up getting into my college ill only be able to do 4 out of the 6 sessions anyway so maybe they'll include the neck and stuff that way since i won't be able to do all the sessions
>>
y'all need to take a break from each other
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>>8062584
I was going to say something about this but the porky meme is mostly only popular on /leftypol/ which is a board full of 'manarchists' and 'brosocialists' (basically means they are leftists but they don't believe in equality for women and minorities)

I on other websites I have seen people point this exact thing out, that porky is just an adaptation of /pol/'s 'le happy merchant' meme pretending there is one person responsible for everything and it's lazy and stupid of leftists to use it
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>>8062629
But why? What's bad about suicide?

>>8062633
I love you uwu

>>8062634
Because I want to get away from here
Plus we can work we are able-bodied 'men'

>>8062638
Mems are good
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>>8062624
what happens when they run out of money lol
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>>8062592
anne has been here for years

you named yourself anna because you like to jerk off to frozen
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>>8062643
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>tfw all this talk about running off with college money reminds you that you'll still have half your florida pre-paid college plan left which you'll be able to cash out and have like 20 grand
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>>8062642
why do you want to get away?
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>>8062641
leftypol is actually pretty bad

they will like straight out go REEEEE IDENTITY POLITICS REEEEEE if you even mention like "gay people exist"
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Hey sertii maybe you can tell one of their parents the asinine bs they're up and one of them can put a stop to it?

This sounds like the dumb plan of a retarded teenager.
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>>8062642
If you cannot understand that then see a therapist
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>>8062541
Hmmm

>>8062645
Mtfg named me anna literally try and know what you're talking about you dummy

>>8062649
Life sucks and I have too much stress here

>>8062653
Just give me a good reason lol you seem to be having a hard time

>>8062652
That'd be rude
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>>8062642
no, memes are bad
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>>8062650
well can you prove gay people exist?
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>Admit to not having the best judgement due to autism.
>Continue to insist current course of action is flawless against the advice of literally absolutely everybody.
Explain this.
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>>8062656
meme good
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>>8062655
It's hard to explain sanity to someone lacking it.
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>>8062658
probably due to the autism desu
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>>8062648
20 grand to spend on all the wonderful items you can find at kohls!
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>>8062634
no see, this is decent and rational idea so it won't work because jews/autism/whatever.
>>8062639
i mean i hope so for sure :/
make sure to also plan the next laser sessions to match up with the 8 weeks cycle.
>>8062643
that's probably what the suicide pact is for i guess?
>>8062652
i actually would do this but like i forgot how to get to her house and i don't have her parents phone number.
It's sad though, they were super nice people.
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>>8062664
anne do you represent kohls
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>>8062662
that's easy

>what's sanity ?
not you
>>
>think trannies are lazy insane mentally ill drug addicted degenerates
>read this thread and get proven exactly right

Uhh trannies, explain?
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>>8062668
Fair enough.
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>>8062665
if it's 8 weeks then ill have like 2 sessions lol
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being mentally ill is nice
uwu
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>>8062669
what more is there to explain
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>>8062668
can i be sane
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>>8062657
artist depiction of sweaty passionate gay sex
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>>8062674
no
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Hella fun

>>8062658
Noone's giving arguments you're just repeating the same memes over and over again
There ya go lass

>>8062659
Nim knows what's up

>>8062662
Still no argument lmao

>>8062665
Shame it's my money and my parents can't stop me :^)

>>8062669
Smart
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>>8062678
wtf why not
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>>8062676
hot
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>>8062671
yeah, if its that short better not do it lol idk if 100 dollars per session is cost effective
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>>8062667
no, why do you ask?
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i'll take a shower now and the i'll meet some friends to do a bar hop
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>>8062679
why don't you two go to the same college and live together there?
its like running away without being incredibly stupid about it
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>>8062682
im pretty sure they said it was 4 weeks per session with them
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>>8062679
I don't care if you kill yourself but would you mind not taking some poor girl with you?
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>>8062669
this thread just shows you that a few of us are that

if anything you should be seeing that not all are like that
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>>>/r9k/36092005

Stupid hoe just used me. Didn't care about me at all. Fucking came then kicked me out
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>>8062659
no.
memes hurt people.
memes are very VERY dangerous
https://youtu.be/KzGjEkp772s
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>>8062688
Shut the fuck up you stupid hoe
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>sertii still hasn't replied to that one post
Really makes me think

>>8062686
But it's not running away it's like missing the essential part of the whole plan

>>8062688
Not if she wants it there is literally nothing wrong with a double suicide lol
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>>8062693
Salty fuck aren't you?
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>>8062691
idk if r9k is the best influence for you bean
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>>8062691
sorry beans

>>8062694
...so you don't just want to get away and be living independently, you want it to feel like you're running away?

>>8062695
you're not even a tranny wtf
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>>8062689
>claims to want to be girl entire life
>finally start taking pills to make yourself look like a girl
>now too afraid to do girl things or call yourself a girl
>choose to live as a man most of the time
>get upset when people treat you as a man

I don't fucking understand trannies at all dude. You need a documentary explaining this shit.
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>>8062687
huh oh really? that's neat but idk much about how laser works to say if thats good or bad, i know some alexandrite lasers have a good effect if the cycle is shorter but yours was a diode im pretty sure... anyway its prolly fine

>>8062694
I'm not arguing with you because I'll just get caught in a autistic spiral of memes and self destructive idiocy desu so yeah no thanks.
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>>8062669
>Lazy insane mentally ill drug addicted degenerates
How is this any different than cis women?
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>>8062694
She's a naive kid in love.
She doesn't actually want it.
>>8062700
:wink:
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>>8062679
idk lass if "you're essentially taking on the role of an abusive partner and influencing your partner to follow you on a self-destructive path to hell from which nothing good can come" is a meme to you i feel you might like a good deal more problems than autism

also there's nothing wrong with you killing yourself and frankly i couldn't give a damn whether you live or you die but what i'm seeing here is a form of relationship abuse where you're influencing your partner, who seems vulnerable, to follow you on your incredibly fucking stupid plans

if you want to kill yourself so bad do it on your own, don't drag others to hell with you just because you think your insanity is actually some form of enlightenment some jewish cabal wants to take away you cretin
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but anna literally told me

"Myrthe, I only want to go trough with this if you're 100% ok and comfortable with doing it as well"

>>8062694
i DO want it
w-wish people would understand and accept my decision ;n;
Would rather die with you than alone
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>>8062701
its tough :(
I'm scared people will be mean to me
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>>8062703
Cis women can at least birth children and be housewives if they fail at absolutely everything else in life. Can trannies say the same?
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D-Do I really come off as a dumb naive child? :c
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>>8062706
Your consent feels like a form of stockholm syndrome and I'm sure I'm not the only one who's reached this conclusion.
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>>8062706
you're getting memed on
anna is the one who is REALLY doing the jewish tricks here
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>>8062706
Please both of you, don't kill yourselves. :c
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>>8062706
Look lass, your first love is almost never your last and most of the time not true love either

Don't throw your life away and your future away for a drug-taking broad

It's not worth it. She's not worth it.
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>>8062711
>>8062706
You're literally a victim of abuse and are too naive to understand.
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>>8062701
>your family will kick you out if they find out you're trans
>afraid of not passing and having people call you a faggot and stomp on your face
>full of self loathing and depression so get stuck in a "why bother I should just kill myself" loop

idk bro there are plenty of reasons people don't present female I think you're just an idiot tb h
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Ok, maybe not the best place to ask this, but does anyone know how I could hook up a FireWire audio interface to a modern laptop that lacks both a FireWire port and a PCIe slot?
I really could use a real microphone right now...
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>>8062711
You're a pushover.
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>>8062711
you are a naive child, but that's ok. Whats not ok is knowing the person is a dumb naive child and still being around them and letting them fall in love with you when you're a self destructive autist.
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>>8062708
Being a housewife is my goal, and there are sterile women out there you misogynistic fuck. Women are more than babymakers you pig. Sterile women have lots of options like adoption and surrogacy, and being sterile does not take away from their femininity.
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>>8062711
Yes.

For one you should probably realise Anna is only enabling your own self-destructive feelings so she can drag you along with hers.

This is not how this shit works in healthy relationships.

If I told my ex I wanted to set my house on fire to take revenge against my family she probably wouldn't have been like "HELL YEAH LET'S DO THIS SHIT I'LL HELP".

Your plans all seem like those of fucking stupid teenagers.
>>
stop calling me an easy to influence child
im a big girl :(

>>8062718
I literally had an online bf before I met Anna
And I was the one who broke up
I have little experience, but I do have SOME
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>>8062722
Why not USB? I don't think most motherboards produced now even have FireWire on it.
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>>8062730
aren't you like 17
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>>8062700
Yes I want to be far away with my girlfriend while having cut all ties with everyone I know and I want that now.

>>8062704
But I am a naive kid in love too that doesn't mean I don't want it

>>8062705
I don't see how it's a path to hell we both agree it sounds pretty comfy and better than what we have.
I'm not abusing her at all what the fuck are you on about you have never even talked to us
My plans aren't stupid if they make us happy lol
And well it isn't enlightenment I'm just saying there's no objective arguments against it and everyone here is just upholding societal standards the jews made up

>>8062713
Stockholm syndrome implies that she didn't voluntarily come to me.

>>8062718
L'oreal said I was worth it

>>8062724
She's not dumb
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>>8062721
>find someplace else to live
>avoid people like that
>get a therapist of friend to help you sort out those problems

Cis people have similar problems and overcome them, why is it that trannies feel they are special cases and make excuses. No one had a free ride through life I suggest trans on general toughen up. A life of self pity is no life at all.
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>>8062730
Even so
You'll find better
How old are you? 18, 19, 20 or something?
Your life is just beginning

At least give life a shot before deciding to throw it away, it'd be a shame to do otherwise.
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>>8062589
>she comfortys me and helps me get through rough days.

Exactly why you /shouldn't/ kill yourselves. You're happy together, don't destroy that.
>>
>tfw you have a lil eva to care about and it's not some weird power dynamic
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>>8062722
apparently there are adaptors you can get https://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/do-firewire-to-usb-adapters-work
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>>8062655
what's stressing you out?
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>>8062732
I have a Motu traveller Mk3 that I bought long ago when I used to record and master demos for friends. It's a pretty good tool and it was quite expensive, so I'd rather find a way to put it back to work.
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>>8062734
18 :C
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I know not many people know or care about me but desu if Anna & Myrthe kill themselves I'm doing it too.
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>>8062746
Oh, I see. It's not just a microphone. I'm sure there's FireWire to USB 3.0 converters out there.
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>>8062751
me too
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>>8062735
>I'm not abusing her at all what the fuck are you on about you have never even talked to us
lol you literally just admitted a few posts back you have no objective ability to evaluate your own behavior or the morality of it because of autism.

Can't have it both ways lass. Seek sunlight.

Seriously though like how old are you? 15? "It sounds comfy" like lmao what the fuck is this, "oh yeah, I'm going to completely fuck up my life and somebody else's because it sounds comfy"? Are you a god damn clown? Is this circus hour in here? Can you sit back and think like a rational adult for once? Have you considered the feasibility, sustainability, and healthiness of your idiotic plans? Because it sure as hell doesn't sound like it. Like for god's sake, you're so desperate to avoid rationally analysing this plan you've decided that it's fine because it's... against uh, the jews? What?
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>>8062728
Not once did I say I hate women, you're making that claim because I stated a fact, trannies can not give birth. I also never said women ate listed to just baby making. I said "if they've failed at literally everything else in life, they can fall back on having children with their husband and raising them as a house wife". This is something trannies and sterile women cannot do without adoption or surrogates. No where did I say this somehow takes away from their femininity. These are all facts with no opinions thrown in.
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>>8062740
Well, I don't have an Express card slot. Probably should just use the old laptop for recording, transfer the audio files and do the mastering on the new one.
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>>8062736
>dude just find somewhere to live doesn't matter that you have no money or education just be yourself :))))
>just never go outside lol
>just get money for a therapist $200 per hour sessions :DD
the friend point is okay I guess but the issue is a lot of people don't have anybody they would feel safe to talk about trans issues with

to be honestly family you should probably unplug your internet and go kill yourself because you are just very stupid
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>>8062735
Don't kill some poor kid for your enjoyment, you sociopathic fuck.

I see right through you. You'll have the poor kid kill herself and then you'll just move onto someone else.
>>8062748
Jesus
Look, at least try life first? Please?
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>>8062695
You're literally riding my cock like all my anon buddies in r9k pointed out lel umad?
Ye umad
>>8062700
Thanks she was my warmup anyway three fucks a day to keep the voices in my head away!

>>8062701
They just want love anon :[
>>
ok listen

i never wanted to become older than 30
never wanted that

WAY before i met anna

so please
she
did not
influence me
to kill myself

>>8062764
>enjoyment
now you're just being mean :(
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>>8062755
If they have a right to be that selfish, so do I.

Also I'm a burden and a parasite to my family.
My transition is mostly founded by my mother and the healthcare. But my mother has to pay for the shit that's not free. And we're pretty much poor. So I'd do her a great service, doing it. Nothing to lose.
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>>8062760
That likely would work.
Are there any current laptops with pcie slots? I don't keep up on computer hardware anymore.
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>>8062761
Trannies making excuses again, how surprising. I guess all those trannies out there being successful made excuses for themselves and gave up easily too. :^)
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>>8062769
hmm I was kinda kidding
how old are you?
if you're super concerned about hrt being a financial burden a part-time job would pretty much cover it no?
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>>8062768
>i never wanted to become older than 30

none of us did, that's why you transition lmao
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>>8062774
22. Can't get a job because Im trans tho.
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>>8062773
:))))) yeah probably you're so smart and rational dude let me suck your cock
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>>8062773
Toughing up is a masculine phrase and is advice only given to men

You wouldn't speak to a cis girl this way. Therefore all your points are discarded and invalid
>>
>>8062776
confusing but it feels like you kimda support people killing themselves?
thanks
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>>8062768
>i never wanted to become older than 30
I thought the same when I was your age.

I'm 26 now and I've entirely cleared myself of the idiotic idea that life ends at like 30 or whatever.

You have stupid thoughts because you're young and young people are stupid except you have someone who is enabling you to take these teenage depressive thoughts to a logical conclusion that most people, do not, in fact, reach.
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>>8062772
It definitely would work but it will make my work space pretty cluttered. I can't buy yet another laptop, so, I guess that will have to do. Accepting my voice makes the hassle worth it.
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>>8062777
Europe or US? I'm trans and have a job now. It's not impossible.

There's alternative ways to make money. Learn how to program, sell stuff.. artists can make a living off commissions..
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>>8062777
even just at a retail store or something?
couldn't you boymode when you're there?
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>>8062738
But we still both feel sad a lot and we wouldn't if we were dead

>>8062743
contact with people
studying
not being with myrthe
stuff like that
I get scared a lot nowadays

>>8062737
>give life a shot
eighteen years is not enough? What's the cutoff then? Enlighten us

>>8062751
>>8062755
hugg
your actions are your own and I will not take responsibility

>>8062757
There IS no objective ability to evaluate behaviour
That's why I cannot do it, and why you can't either.

I'm 19 and I still haven't seen any way in which it'd fuck our lives up. Isn't the point of life to be happy?
>healthiness
nice when trannies talk about taking their lives in an unhealthy direction lol
I rationally analysed it I just ca,e to a different conclusion than you and you see, to be extremely upset that others don't see the world like you do. Honestly a typical commie

>>8062764
Double suicide is not murder please do not misuse legal terms
I am not legally responsible for the voluntary actions of an adult human being.

>>8062769
of course you have a right to be selfish. It's called self-determination.
>>
>>8062766
No
>>8062768
Look kiddo
You're 18.
You haven't even gone to uni yet.
You haven't experienced life yet.
You've had one bf and that's all.

There's a lot of things you haven't experienced yet and there's a hella lotta stuff to do and people to meet

Go do what students should be doing and studying and drinking and such

Leave the nutjob to wallow in her own sadness

And yknow when you get to 30 you'll feel better about it. People always are scared off getting older but it's never even a fraction of as bad as they think.
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>>8062789
aren't you 17?
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*sipp*
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>>8062788
18 is barely starting life. It's barely an adult and still a kid really.

And call it what you want but you're manipulating the girl into suicide. That's murder regardless of the legal term.
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>>8062787
Nah, not even a retail store.
They don't want me.
I'd rather die than boymode lmao.

>>8062786
France. the orthodontic stuff isn't covered and it's making my mom lose all of her money.

>>8062788
Well, if you do kill yourselves, I will to desu. I have deep depression, the meds don't work all that much.

You guys gave me the idea.
Thanks
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>>8062758
Yeah and Im taking a feminist stance that your stigma against sterile women is backwards and fucked up, and inherently misogynistic because you're placing a womans value solely on her reproductive capabilities. Thats sexist as fuck.
>>
if anyone is still wondering how fucked in the head anna is this last post of hers gives a decent indication
>>
>>8062793
can i have a sipp
>>
>>8062789
what is life?
what if i don't want to meet that many other people?
i hate going outside and being in any kind of social situation

what if this makes me happy?

>>8062794
>manipulating
STOP THIS
I LITERALLY TOLD HER I WANTED TO JUMP UNDER A TRAIN AND SHE SAID SHE WANTED TO AS WELL

STOP SEEING ME AS A NAIVE IDIOTIC CHILD HOLY SHIT
>>
>>8062798
yeah at first I thought everyone was taking things too seriously
but if they're serious (and it seems like they are) its pretty concerning desu
they're just going to talk each other into it more and more and do something really stupid
>>
>>8062785
Better a little clutter than not able to do it at all.
>>
>STILL no reply to >>8062541

>>8062794
>That's murder regardless of the legal term
What does this even mean? Murder IS a legal term

Also, 18 is like 25% of life. I'd say that's a good taste.

>>8062795
You're welcome. Still not condoning it, though.

>>8062798
Not an argument

>>8062803
stupid how
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>>8062801
Enabling is a form of manipulation.

Your partner isn't supposed to encourage you to kill yourself lol.

That's, not, how healthy relationships work.
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>>8062800
Have a sipp
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>>8062801
Suicidal ideation is not the same thing as actually planning a suicide. One is grounds for therapy while the other is grounds for being sectioned.

Just see a therapist, talk through your fears and worries and they'll give you some help. Talk to family if you are close with them too.
>>
>>8062807
>stupid how
misusing large amounts of money to do something unsustainable with the backup plan of double-suicide
>>
>>8062801
>she literally told me I wanted and she wanted too.

How about telling yourselves "we'll stay together and never do it". Also, anti-depressants.

I'll do it because all of the andi-ds I've tried never worked, but you could at least try

>>8062807
I mean, if you're not telling me 'dont kill yourself' you're kinda condoning it. With suicide, you're either condoning it or really against it. No inbetween
>>
>>8062810
what's in the cup
is it hot cocoa
>>
>>8062798
imo just filter both of them and do on with your day save yourself the stress of this bullshit
>>
>>8062795
Ah, right, you had the police show up. Suburbs of Paris.

No back end warehouse job types?
>>
>>8062817
Yeah. Paris and other big cities especially suck more than the rest of France.

Nope. I've asked pretty much everywhere, called and called again. Nothing.
>>
>>8062815
Estrogen tea desu
>>
>>8062814
that's what's gonna happen
heck, anna's one who came up with a plan that DIDN'T involve killing ourselves

>>8062816
uwu

>>8062812
I did see a therapist and he was horrible
Never telling any medical professional how i really feel ever again desu
I told mum I wanted to die but idk we never talked about it again
>>
>>8062818
Keep trying. Someone out there is going to be desperate enough to hire you.
>>
>tgfw it's us against the world and we both like it this way

>>8062808
>Enabling is a form of manipulation.
The government manipulated you into being trans? That's a fucked up thing to believe.
Get of your high horse

>>8062808
>, not,
that's, not, how commas work

>>8062813
It sounds sustainable enough. We have the money to survive long enough to learn the language after which we can just get low tier jobs. That's the worst-case scenario.

>>8062814
Hello George W. Bush
I may or may not agree with your actions but I believe you have the right to do whatever the fuck you want. Don't try and guilt-trip me.
>>
>>8062806
Well, it's a little clutter that adds to a massive load of clutter. Too many half-finished projects laying around. Most of the house is a hazard zone. And it's not even that small a house.
>>
>>8062823
then DONT even think about killing yourselves.
You have a plan to live. So LIVE.
>>
>>8062823
I don't say filter you because I think you are smart or something I say it because you two are fucking idiots and I honestly don't really care if you die
>>
>>8062821
ok
sipp
>>
>>8062831
alrighty C:
you do you, anon!

>>8062828
that's
what's
going
to
happen
>>
>>8062818
maybe try like a bookstore or a non profit or something

just like somewhere that might be a bit more progressive and open to hiring transpeople
>>
i just realized Anna is starting to sound a bit like Alex, except she's way worse lmao.
>>
>>8062789
Can I hump you please?

Show me ur butt I'm so horny kill me
>>
>>8062823
Ask to see another one and write down all this stuff on some paper, give it to your mom and ask for help.

People will help and people care about you.
>>
what the fuck kind of stupid bullshit is this
>>
*does a lil dance*
>>
>>8062828
That's the plan though did you even read the thread or are you just looking for attention?

>>8062831
not an argument

>>8062837
Alex is usually right
It's sad to see how she's hounded for her completely valid opinions
>>
Who here thinks Anna should be removed from Myrthe ASAP?
>>
i feel pretty good right now
how you doing, /mtfg/?
>>
elena hi :3
>>
>>8062842
idk nim is dancing though
>>
>>8062837
yr eyes are gorgeous
>>8062842
It's called 4chan you racist sperglord
>>
>>8062840
But I don't like talking about my feelings :(

and i REALLY don't feel like telling my life story all over again a third/fourth time

>>8062845
I don't uwu

>>8062847
Having fun with my gf :3
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>>8062825
>don't try and guilt trip me.
If that's what it takes to stop you both from killing yourselves, I will keep doing it.

And i have nothing to lose, so I actually /would/ kill myself if you guys do. Already tried before. ODed on meds and alcohol. - I'll try another method that works 100 percent this time tho.

>>8062824
I don't think so

>>8062835
Suicide is /not/ gonna happen, then?

>>8062836
>more open to hiring transpeople
We're talking about France, here. People aren't open to us.
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>>8062814
>because all of the andi-ds I've tried never worked,
Check your thyroid and HPA systems. Being low in thyroid hormones, or improperly converting them can make you depressed. Also low adrenals can do the same. Other metabolic syndromes can also cause depression. Anything that effects serotonin or dopamine production and use can mess one up, but those often respond do some anti-depressants, but not always.
>>
a friend of mine contacted the university of hilo's lgbt support group and a woman from there called me to offer some help
that was super nice of him

>>8062844
hey anna
i watched frozen and it was really good

>>8062852
nice
i really can't wait to move in with mine
but that'll be a while
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>>8062845
i mean it's like legit the only healthy course of action lol

this situation looks like it's going to produce two corpses if left unchecked and reducing that to just one corpse at least seems like, well, the correct course of action
>>
>>8062853
It's /plan B/ now c:
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>>8062853
sorry I don't really know much about france
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>>8062852
It helps a bit
If you don't wanna talk about it then just write it down

Or heck, get a diary and write it down there. It can help with stress.
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>>8062847
happi

>>8062853
it won't work lol just do whatever makes you feel good
suicide doesn't bother me too much especially when it's someone I don't know
it's much worse when people fail

Also no, not if it all works out

>>8062856
>i watched frozen and it was really good
good feel!
It really is a comfy movie with nice waifus

>>8062859
>implying we wouldn't kill ourselves separately if separated
uwu
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>>8062866
Stop doing this.
Stop fucking with this kid.
Stop encouraging suicide.
She clearly loves you and you are encouraging her to kill herself.
It's disgusting.
>>
>>8062854
Before I got to start HRT in February 2014 I've done thyroid tests and such. At first they thought there was a problem with my thyroid but apparently there wasn't.

Then they thought I had heart issues, but apparently I have nothing dangerous.

HPA?

>>8062861
Please just get rid of that plan.

I'm new but I already love you guys and think you're adorable together.

I don't want to hugbox or anything, but I don't want anything bad to happen to anyone here. Not even beanboy.

>>8062864
France is weird.

>>8062866
Well I really hope it all works out.
>>
this post depression high is nice
i feel good

>>8062866
it was really good
anna is really cute
anyway what's this about you and myrthe killing yourselves
just take a non-lethal dose of aspirin or whatever and go to a psych ward
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wait last time i ordered from qhi they didn't give me an account nunber
can i order again without it
>>
>tfw feel extra motivated now
uwu desu
being insane is nice sometimes

>>8062870
SHE ISN'T ENCOURAGING ME
GOING BY THIS LOGIC IM ENCOURAGING HER JUST AS MUCH

STOP
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>>8062873
>just take a non-lethal dose of aspirin or whatever and go to a psych ward
wat
>>
what do i do if ive been depressed for like 7 years now

how do i fix it
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>>8062870
I'm not encouraging suicide.
I love her too and I want to reduce her suffering as much as possible.

>>8062872
Me too that'd be comf

>>8062873
>anna is really cute
hecc ye

Also no that is exactly what I don't want I don't want (((psychiatrists))) to touch me I can live my own life (or decide not to)
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>>8062877
what
that's what i did
i mean if you get yourself institutionalized you'd at least maybe be able to get on some meds or w/e
granted in my case it went pretty poorly due to ending up homeless but haha we can't all be winners right?????

>>8062879
oh come on medications can help you
i mean you're already taking estrogen and antiandrogens
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>>8062849
whats good
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>>8062875
You're clearly far more naive than she is.
>>8062879
Go fuck yourself you psycho.
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>>8062879
And if things get hard, don't jump to suicide.

Everyone has it hard, and they make it in the end, they manage to get back to something good.
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>>8062878
become a tranny
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>>8062875
>>8062879
Both of you should just end it tbqh
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can somebody just shoot anna and get myrthe into psychatric treatment
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>>8062879
>I want to reduce her suffering as much as possible.
by coming up with a dumb as hell plan that is 100% guaranteed to fail and encouraging double suicide when it does
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>>8062882
but what do you mean by a nonlethal dose?
just like 2 asprins? i don't get why you need to do that to go to a psych ward
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>>8062883
i dropped out of this mess, just playing nier.
Nicole told me you were lurking, just wanted to say hi
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>>8062882
Good goy just take what Dr. Goldstein prescibes you

>>8062886
Not an argument

>>8062887
Nah suicide sounds like a nice plan B

>>8062889
this desu

>>8062890
I thought about doing that but that'd be mean

>>8062891
Suicide reduces her suffering plus there's no reason our plan would fail
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>>8062895
you two are weird I don't care what happens to you anymore

best of luck though
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>>8062892
i mean idk
i was too insecure to call up the cops and be like "hey i'm suicidal" so i wanted to substantiate me being there
i took like 40 or so, which i calculated to be less than a severe dose based on my body weight
they got stuck in my throat though, i was going to take like 50
for the first day i literally couldn't swallow a drop of water

>>8062895
god damn anna you're crazy
like okay we've got a depression epidemic for (((reasons))) but that doesn't mean antideps can't help
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>>8062886
i am :)
and pls don't be mean to my gf

>>8062889
finally someone who understands

>>8062890
Literally why does everyone care so much about me?
Are you all trying to seem nice by protecting "le innocent child xddd"?
I've been trying to explain what's going on but no one listens and everyone just attacks anna because you've always had a grudge on her :(

>>8062895
reduce my suffering qt
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>>8062895
You're messed up.
You're taking advantage of her.
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>>8062888
i thought i already was
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>>8062895
Sounds like a /terrible/ plan B*
>>
>>8062894
buy me nier okay
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>>8062894
niera is extremely ftw. take your time and do the sidequests (esp. the ones in route b) instead of being like nicole and speedrunning through the entire game

also buy chip space upgrades in resistance HQ
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>>8062901
advantage how????? ;-;
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>>8062900
Please just try something else.
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>>8062899
>i took like 40 or so
this is really dumb advice to give people
it can permanently fuck up your organs
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>>8062898
okay, bye

>>8062899
Right just keep enabling the ploy
I'd rather not

>>8062901
How

>>8062903
Sounds like it would make us both never feel sad ever again :^)
>>
New thread..

>>8062910
>>8062910
>>8062910
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>>8062906
sorry i already felt depressed at spending so much just buying it for myself ;-;
>>8062907
yeah you sound like my kind of girl lmao
i have all the upgrades except the last one and i never do story quests if i have sidequests left to finish :3
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>>8062915
>>8062915
>sounds like it would make us both never feel sad ever again
LIKE ANTIDEPRESSANTS WOULD
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>>8062902
and you're still depressed?
hmm idk what to tell ya, sorry
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>>8062827
>Too many half-finished projects laying around.
I know that problem....awhile back I boxed up a few projects. I need to do it with a few more. Also I need to dig into that tangle of cables on my desk and sort it out into boxes.

>>8062854
>>8062872
HPA = Hypothalamus, Pituitary, Adrenal. Highly involved the the regulation of the body.
Some thyroid issues don't show up on the tests, like poor conversion of T4 to T3 in the cells and liver. If that is happening, reverse-T3 will be high. Almost nobody tests for reverse-T3.
Hashimoto's can cause bursts of thyroid hormones to be released when thyroid cells are destroyed by the immune system. That can cause hear issues.
Again, many other issues may be at work here. I just happen to have read up a lot on thyroid issues.
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