/MTFG/ - Lux Edition

>>8049653
Ash thread

Luck could totally be mtf

>>8049653
I haven't played league in a long time I used to be an autistically good high diamond player.

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I really really love tabletop wargames.
But they're super ultra masculine.

God I have almost dumped all my pills down the toilet, gotten drunk, and now I'm playing with chickens, and all of this before noon. What a wonderful day, who says the tranny life ain't grand.

I want to die.

>>8050631
nothing is masculine
nothing is feminine
do what you like

Omg where the fuck is everyone I'm lonely and drunk and my gf doesn't feel like dealing with my sjit when I'm like this come on who's up I need someone to talk to

>>8050715
we're still here lol
>>8049644

>>8050726
Fuck. Thank you thank you. This bukkahit is why I stopped coming to /mtfg/ I never knew where y'all are at

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>>8050700
Then why do we use gendered pronouns for inanimate objects in every language except English?

>>8050756
i feel like you missed my point

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>>8050759
really? pretty much everything i can find on pinterest is stuff that looks a bit like this

>>8050631
Desire is the measure of all things. Be unbound from moral tethers. Do as you will, to whom you will.

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>>8050775
If you have large feet it is going to make them look absolutely massive, don't wear this look unless you have small feet.

>>8050756
thats just languages like spanish being fucking retarded

there's nothing feminine about a fucking chair

>>8050779
>Be unbound from moral tethers. Do as you will, to whom you will.
this sounds like really scary advice desu

>>8050779
>Do as you will, to whom you will.
yeah, thanks but no thanks, i don't want to end up in prison

tfw look like a failed male

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tfw everyone plays LoL but you

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>>8050785
oh huh ok shit
that kinda sucks because i hate boot cut jeans
is this better

>>8050700
Huh you're right nothing is masculine or feminine. Time to flush my HRT, since its all the same

>>8050789
its literally from the scp foundation so yes its deliberately bad

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my bobs have been putting on weight.
i have to wear baggy shirts now

>>8050795
Iktg, I play the superior game Dota and all the trannies I know are league kiddies

>>8050631
Girls are allowed to do masculine things though, its the reverse scenario that'll pick up flak.

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>>8050793
its okay to kill people

there is nothing wrong with being a murderer

>>8050756
& chinese, basically every language that doesn't use declensions

>>8050800
im perma-hoodie mode now

it just kinda looks like gyno rn but i ate an extra large pizza all my by myself yesterday so im hoping it goes up top

>>8050795
Get into dota instead

Reposting in this thread cuz I think we're in this thread now I guess

>>8050763
I live in Texas, Bryan/college station.

>>8050797
>since it's all the same
quote me on where i said that

>tfw lying to a friend about transitioning
>tfw you are just gonna neck yourself instead

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>>8050808
same here.
my appetite's been going up a lot.
& lately, my stomach's been nothing if not accomodating

>>8050767
that's just how depression is I guess. somedays you just wake up feeling bad for no reason.

>>8050808
>tfw perma hoodie / fleece pullover mode in the summers
D:

Having to hide yourself sure stinks

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>>8050803
>>8050809
The only moba I play is heroes of the storm

>>8050812
>nothing is masculine
Tautology 1
>nothing is feminine
Tautology 2
Therefore
>masculine is feminine
So they're the same.

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>>8050796
A bit
You want to avoid making your lower legs look too narrow when paired with chunky shoes like this or else your feet are going to look like cinderblocks next to them. I have size 10 feet and I definitely can't pull off this look.

>>8050817
yeah it's weird, i feel gross sometimes for eating so much but i guess we're going through second puberty so it's okay Dx

>>8050819
try doing that in florida x-x

>>8050820
Fug lots of my friends play that too. I don't know why I don't since I'm such a blizzard fangirl

>>8050823
>size 10
you are like a little baby

SIZE 14

>>8050820
Also a good choice. I like how hots has dedicated healing characters unlike other games where support just means you have stuns. Li Li best girl btw not open for debate

how come when i tell people that murder is okay and there's technically no ethical issues with cannibalism everybody accuses me of offering poor advice

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>>8050765
Yeah I know, I was being intentionally oblivious.

I wish you were right Sertii but I don't believe that worldview. I think our culture(s) have definitely come to recognize certain activities and things as feminine whilst other activities are inherently seen as masculine. We can acknowledge these associated ideas as being that and try to move past them in a sagelike manner but I feel thats distanced from reality. To 99% of people, these associates are a hard reality and they will perceive things as such.

It gets even weirder when you loo back at indigineous cultures where you had men who did feminine things and women who did masculine things: Or, did you? Because as far as I'm aware a man who acted in a feminine manner in an indigineous culture would come to be seen as a female in adulthood. The same would be true of a biologically female child who grew up a hunter, they would be seen as a male in adulthood. I believe indigenous tribes are a humans natural state, we presumably existed in ways far more similar to them for the majority of our existence before the dawn of civilization.

To them, the social construct is the ultimate reality. Which makes me believe that inherently, the social construct is also our ultimate reality- no matter how much western culture and enlightenment tries to get us to ground our reality in science its ultimately our interactions with others that form the basis of our existence. And to those indigenous folks a masculine woman, is a man, which means in theory if I play too many wargames I could accidentally detransition.

Perhaps Ive done too many hallucinogenic drugs, but I do believe that social constructs are a hard reality to a human soul.

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>>8050796
Why tho

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>>8050829
Its kinda fun, but no one seems to play it
>>8050831
That's not how you spell auriel

someone buy me some skinny jeans okay

>>8050834
because they haven't realised that nothing matters yet

>>8050818
Hmmh
I think you're right, actually.

So far I'm skeptic about having actual depression, because I feel like other people have it way worse and I feel like I'm just complaining for no reason

But that could also just be me having incredibly low self-esteem and it causing me to think that way of myself compared to others

i mean, i AM sad and stuff, but I guess I just doubt myself a lot :/

idk

>>8050826
yea

>>8050836
Just play the goddamn tabletop wargame.

>>8050849
i feel like it's all just going to my ass & bobs

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>>8050806
Lol commies

>>8050852
i certainly hope mine does :/

my fat would always go to my tumtum before mones

>>8050857
You have posted this image repeatedly and I just wanted to inform you not one time have I expanded the thumbnail to even read the text.

>>8050851
but I don't like them.

>>8050836
>We can acknowledge these associated ideas as being that
But they aren't even that. People aren't born as tabula rasas, we have neurological structures that define certain behaviors, and if there's behaviors that all women with properly developed brains consistently engage in and properly developed men don't, then we can define that as a feminine behavior.

There's exceptions when peoples brains develop differently (see: trans people and feminists) but we're the exception, not the rule, and you can't redefine the gender of these social behaviors just because of some exceptions. The exceptions just have to suck it up and accept that they are men who engage in feminine activities or women who engage in masculine activities. Or avoid such activities if they don't want to be labeled as such.

>>8050859
You still take the time to reply though love.

I literally live in game of thrones land

I was happily telling my mom about everything, she got this notion I'm going to buy a big house and live with my brother and subsidize his rent, and she started asking for account access to my money.

Anyway I shut her down, and she kept acting weird, and then last night came right at me fist raised again

I held her arms this time after the first punch and just said that I won't let you hit me, I am doing this for both of our protection, I'm going to let go after your body calms down and it's safe.

She left threatening to watch me burn in hell, and that I'd never work for the police after she's done

This morning I recorded her call, she said she's building repor with the VA mental institution and she can have them come down and drag me away if I don't play nice.

I'm going to the police and the va today, and I'm working on having a number to call in case it happens.

>>8050858
Mine still goes there even after hrt, I'm jelly

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>>8050857
i'm a syndicalist
also, idk what the text in that particular image had to do w/ us, in any way

>>8050858
well, i think i've been gaining & losing weight in cycles

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what the heck
Chloe just got mad at me for answering the phone for poor depressed Kate Marsh!

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>>8050779
That was an extremely Slaaneshi line of encouragement, I shall continue to play wargames when I wish then. If for no other reason than to please the Dark Prince.

>>8050805
I suppose thats true, and as much as I say wargames are super masculine- they're not nearly as masculine as like lifting weights or actual fighting.

I mean I guess you could look at it as a bunch of adults playing with arts and crafts followed by playing pretend with dolls. Very small plastic dolls.

>>8050870
i can't tell if it is or not x-x

>>8050843
If I ever get into it I'll play it with you cindy

>>8050859
>she can't read the text from the thumbnail alone
i hope that's without your glasses

>>8050873
i think ive been doing that too

i have no idea if it's working or not though lol

>>8050869
jfc
get away from that maniac

>>8050869
Becoming a cop makes you instantly undateable, fyi

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>>8050830
I'm at the cutoff for what is considered large feet.
I can say without a doubt though that if certain looks don't work for me they deeefinitely won't work for someone with larger feet.

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>>8050822
gender roles are a spook.
no activity is inherently masculine or feminine in any way.
>>8050823
this sounds complicated and now im kinda unsure
the boots i linked look pretty sleek and narrow
kinda like wearing high top converses i feel and i do >>8050796 with them and i have a size 12 with those
Maybe i do need to try them on but the closest LTS is in L O N D O N
>>8050836
>To 99% of people, these associates are a hard reality and they will perceive things as such.
maybe, not to you though, so you can play w40k without feeling like you're taking part in a masculine activity and be happy if you believe it.
>the social construct is also our ultimate reality
only if you believe in spooks too much. There's plenty of people that don't for this to not be an issue.
>I do believe that social constructs are a hard reality to a human soul.
they definitely weigh down on you, you can try to fight against that though for the sake of your own happiness instead of enforcing them.
>>8050840
... i mean you just put them inside there, there's not point lmao.

>>8050883
I would date a cop.
Just sayin'

please arrest my boipucci faye

>>8050878
I have a shitty monitor.

>>8050883
I wouldn't really want to date someone who had an issue with that

>>8050873
>i'm a syndicalist
Yeah well good luck with that lol.
>>8050875
Yeah its not super masculine and again, females might look odd out at a tabletop battle game but at least it aint like a guy at a teaparty or doing someones nails. People would be assuming all kinds of shit and probably harass or laugh depending on the situation. So you're good, overthinking way too much.
>>8050836
This seems legit though, people been trying to break those social constructs down lately though but its like trying to tell a human to stop perceiving the world with his senses.
>>8050869
Thanks for hitting enter twice after each sentence, I really enjoy having a 27 inch screen but still having your post cover half of it.

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>>8050877
Sounds fun, thanks

>>8050848
there are alot of kinds of depression and other diseases that have similar symptoms so sometimes it's hard to say what it is.

I'm manic-depressive and during my depressive phases I go through lots of selfdoubt too even if my friends told me otherwise just a day ago.

>>8050816
don't do it senpai

>>8050886
ye

gonna have to get my shoes at those giant feet stores x-x

>>8050848
> I feel like other people have it way worse and I feel like I'm just complaining for no reason

you only think that because you associate with Anna a lot, who is melodramatic as fuck

>>8050889
You have the right to make noises, i can and will be held against you in a court of love
>>8050888
<3

i-is it possible for two boys to have sex with each other?

>>8050895
Mhm yeah I didn't think of that yet.

Thank you for sharing this with me and reassuring me, anon.
I hope things turn out okay for you.

>>8050906
no, it's actually never been done before, ever.

>>8050893
I'm reddit tier

>>8050836
Appearance constitutes reality. If you appear as a female and everyone thinks you are a female, then you are a one.
But is a man with a full beard and huge muscles acts like a woman, he is not seen as a woman. Appearance determines everything. Truth is irrelevant.

>And to those indigenous folks a masculine woman, is a man
Appearance determined the gender for them, not behaviour.

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>>8050906
That's actually how Greek people reproduce.

>>8050903
i dont wanna make eva like me D:

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>>8050875
Lifting weights is goat though

>>8050887
Idkk I find Chelsea boots don't really look very sleek at all on large feet but I've tried on some pretty frumpy looking ones. Also, while I love my converse, they are by no means sleek, they look like clown shoes even on people with pretty dainty feet.
The best advice I can give is just to not buy clothes online until you have a good sense of what does and doesn't work on you. Trying shit on is a must imo.

>>8050914
pepe is getting promo deals now?

>>8050888
They're slimy tattling motherfuckers you'd never want out in the middle of nowhere with beer, fire, debauchery, and fun.
My sister dated a cop once, tried arresting my cancer-ridden uncle at a wedding.
Also, he let her dog die after they broke up.
Can't trust em.
>>8050892
You wouldn't be dating them tho.
....
They wouldn't date you.
Lol
Also, are you sure it would be safe for your tiny self?
Especially if you go as a boy.
Ppl are more likely to harm male officers

>>8050906
https://m.imgur.com/gallery/QYTgH

>>8050903
No, not just because of Anna.
Even before I met her I felt this way. My sister is also depressed and she seems to have it worse, a friend of mine has it too etc

umu

>>8050914
the most masculine thing a man can do is to deny masculinity to others
>>8050919
delete this

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>>8050917
of course

i-is it possible for two girls to have sex?

asking for a friend

>>8050925
sellout baka

>>8050915
just please don't complain about how your shoulders and jaw will never let you pass when you're around her lmao
>>8050916
shit, i guess you're right
oh well at least i'm going to london decently soon lol
>>8050922
>not just because of Anna.
ofc not but she's not helping anyone around her either lol

>>8050893
>but at least it aint like a guy at a teaparty or doing someones nails
>This seems legit though

Which one is it? You seem to agree that a guy acting feminine is weird while also agreeing that it's human nature to just accept a guy acting feminine because that's what indigeneous tribes do.

>>8050935
b-but she does comfort me and stuff

>>8050894
Whatever happened to your chasers?

>>8050903
>>8050902
Are chasers still a thing here? I wanted to post but saw a few and figured nope. Seems more quiet now.

>>8050926
Well me and your friend could try and figure it out
>>8050918
I already know this feel, I've had a couple feminists go on dates with me and flip out for being part of the patriarchy

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>>8050893
>implying syndicalism needs luck, or a nationstate

>>8050935
just spreading the truth!

>>8050945
uh yeah a bit

anarchists are okay

idk why internet marxists and anarchists like fighting each other so much

its probably just larping idiocy

>>8050942
yeah the whole suicide pact thing was definitely a really great idea
>>8050945
it's ok now kinda
>>8050950
>truth
you mean unfounded pessimism

>>8050946
Lastly,
I've never met a cop, male or female who wasn't compensating...
Closet dykes and men who were bullied with no fathers as boys.

Basically.
Not you.
Can't compensate after popping your first tittyskittle.
Sorry bb
You'd make a shit cop.

>>8050956
it's not unfounded!

>>8050961
-_-

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>>8050945
There's less chasers right now, it's pretty nice
some new really nice posters too

>>8050907
thanks maybe they will. rn I just hope that I won't need to go to a mental health clinic.

>>8050966
ANNE

>>8050897
don't worry i'm not doing it right now or anything
i'm just sadposting because i'm not happy

the suicide will probably come after i'm not in group work for uni anymore
i don't wanna be a burden

>>8050961
well we've had this discussion many times now so i'm not going to go over this again
just don't spam the threads with your delusions :p

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>>8050961
nim, please.

theres this cute cop i deliver to sometimes is it illegal for me to kiss him

>>8050969
.*

>>8050977
acab

>>8050974
i found it interesting how Nier tried to gender female robots through their bowties and makeup and stuff and the default robot was assumed to be male

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They need to rebuff lethality

>>8050956
definitely UwU
it was the first thing we ever (albeit ironically) discussed and I find it funny that it came up again

>>8050973
i cant stop x-x

>>8050982
ANNE.

>>8050972
what do you mean you lied to your friend about transitioning?

>>8050959
Oh you mean long term beat cops? Well guess where the good ones go? Specialized units you don't see

>>8050987
They need to nerf the champions that have been op for almost a year like Jayce

>>8050997
Maybe they could just create a balanced game where all heroes are viable and picked in pro play.

Oh wait dota already exists

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>>8050988
>I find it funny
i really didn't
your (her?) current plans are also absolutely retarded but i'll stop talking about all this now
>>8050989
you'll have to put in conscious effort
do it for her
>>8050987
they need to buff twitch caitlyn jinx and auto attack adcs in general
maybe i'll start playing that shit game again

>>8051005
Dota isn't fun I played antimage only a few years ago and was 5k mmr

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>tfw ur meeting with a prof in 5 hours and ur probably going to fuck it up

>>8050994
i'm saying that i'm transitioning and stuff
but i'm really not doing anything at all

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>>8050947
>>8050893
so yea, i say let the communist have that luck.
they're the ones who need it lol

>>8051006
im gonna be in boymod all the time around her so it that might help

>>8051010
probably

just have fun
who cares?

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>>8050987
DELTE this reeeeeeee lethality is finally balanced they need to buff crit adcs

>>8051010
how

>>8050992
yes?

>>8051011
:(
why not anon?

>>8051016
i highly doubt the viability of a "boymode" of you in 4 months lol

>>8051010
you are probably just nervous it will be alright.

>>8051024
stop making that face okay

Esports are not fun.

Is there a good cooperative multiplayer game that isn't competitive at all? I just wanna have causal fun with friends.

Also does anybody want to be my friend and play a casual non competitive multiplayer game with me?

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>>8051010
Good luck, Elanna.

Throw that defeatist attitude in the can where it belongs though. Just remember to nail it and not nail him.

boobs wont stop growing please help

>>8051029
what face

god i really want to play twitch again

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>>8051030
I think Overwatch is like that
I'm not a very good friend but I can try

>>8051025
fear?
self hatred?
inability?

something
i just can't do it

>>8051030
fucking casul git gud

>>8051037
FINISH NIER AUTOMATA

>>8051030
You can play every competitive game casual

>>8051027
my laser isn't gonna be done by then lol

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>>8051021
By being nervous and incompetent and a poor candidate to be a student obviously

>>8051028
I hope sooo

>>8051017
I care this is my future yo

>>8051032
I'm not a defeatist!

>>8051042
yes ma'am i'll open it up right away !!!

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>tfw almost out of Spiro
>tfw placed the order just today so I'll go a while with no E or AAs

how long before I start to masculinize again?

>>8051034
-_-

>>8051049
every student is gonna be nervous wtf

>>8051039
No it's competitive isn't it? I don't think there's like a pve mode

>>8051041
I am idc. Video games are just timewasters, why raise cortisol levels by making them competitive? Cortisol inhibits estrogen.

>>8051045
Need non competitive teammates though, plus no all chat

>>8051049
>I care this is my future yo
yeah but if you get it you'll get it
if you don't you won't

being a little bitch about it isn't gonna do you any good

btw, cartman, when are you gonna hurry up & transition?

>>8051056
Minecraft, l4d, the old rainbow 6 games

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>>8051030
>implying that playing competitive is not casual

I only play competitive and I play it casually

>>8051056
>why raise cortisol levels by making them competitive? Cortisol inhibits estrogen.
Thanks for making me feel bad about being a tryhard.

>>8051040
maybe you could try taking hrt and not socially transition for a while?
at least you'll probably feel a bit better about your body if this is something that really bothers you...

>>8051052
stop making that face nim

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>>8051056
how is cortisol released?

>>8051067
u first

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>>8051014
>>8050947

>>8051069
-_-

>>8051057
How does one just pretend there's no stakes?

>>8051055
Yeah but when I'm nervous I just look dumb

>>8051061
Ty. Minecraft is like 3d terraria right? I had lots of fun in terarria.

>>8051063
I didn't mean casually playing competitive games, I meant playing games where my opponents are not human and the goal is overcoming obstacles as a team, not "winning". I mean I guess I could play a competitive game against bots? But even then the game is structured to be competitive.

>>8051064
Sorry anon. But it's true. Gotta stay back and chill

>>8051068
Stress. Which for me comes from competitive situations

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>tfw size 13 feet
in mens ;_;

>>8051065
i don't know how much that would help though
i generally avoid myself entirely because i hate literally everything about me
hrt probably won't change that

>>8051049
that's how it always goes. at first you are nervous about it but it works out in the end because you are smart and you know your shit.

>>8051073
im gonna get mad at you omg

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are buttplugs agp or trutrans hsts?!

>>8051071
>ancap colors
>"anarcho"-capitalism
>obsessed with fascist authoritarian
really makes u think

>>8051051
>long nails
make this meme stop, make it sop...

>>8051074
so does everyone wtf

they know people are gonna be nervous

>>8051082
for what i didnt even do nothing

>>8051080
hmmm
idk what to say anon
the thing that kinda propelled me to start was the thought that if I'm going to kill myself anyway....I might as well TRY hrt and see what happens
and I'm definitely happier now for what its worth

okay I'm going to informed consent wish me luck
I don't know what to be prepared for though

>>8051085
>french tips are long nails
>implying my nails aren't shorter than nearly every girl I bump into

pls dont comment on things you know literally nothing about. not having your nails super short helps to feminize your hands

>>8051089
you're making faces at me wtf

is programmer the best way to get a good paying job? please i need to start my life and ill learn this if i can get a job with a decent salary

>>8051085
Kinda long nails are nice >.>

>>8051094
I would love to know how that goes and what happens. I've never been to one but there is one like an hour away from me.

>>8051093
i can't motivate myself to do things with guaranteed results
let alone stuff which is a maybe

you don't need to say anything
i was sorta not expecting a reply

>>8051098
Probably, that what I'm doing.
I'm learning Java and Computer Science.

>>8051084
Both are better than liberal bullshit, and a nazi society can still exist in ancapitalism which is the beautiful part. Also, I didnt draw the pic.

>>8051098
become a pro ho desu

>>8051082
-_-

>>8051100
you know how they call a lesbian without clipped nails?

single

>>8051111
sertii not you too omg

>>8051097
i never did such a thing

>>8051096
They're nails, and they're long.
So they're long nails.

>pls dont comment on things you dont like
Excuuuuuuuse me, princess. I can voice whatever opinion I have. Don't nail-gatekeep me.

I hate long nails or fake nails or huge round earrings or shit like that.

>>8051100
that's fine. it's just not that great for holding objects or fingering people or... doing anything actually

>>8051087
I suppose

>>8051081
But I don't know my shit that's why I'm applying to go to school loll

>>8051108
thats my fallback
>>8051106
im thinking programming or electrician

>>8051098
It can be. I'm sure it depends on the local market though.
I have a friend that finished a two year programming course at the College here. The program is custom tailored to what local businesses are after and the work experience portion payed off her student loan with some left over. After school, she was hired by the University as the head database programmer making really good money.

>>8051120
yeah you did

every day wtf

>>8051102
Probably later today, it takes 2 hours for me to get there
I just kind of called and said I want to do informed consent and they told me when to come in no questions asked
They're probably used to hons and such though

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>>8051116
Good thing I'm bi
>>8051121
They're pretty and they don't really get in the way that much ><

>>8051094
Good luck! Be prepared to get stuck with a needle. I hope you're not like me and don't get lightheaded at just the thought

>>8051098
Pays well but you probably need a degree to get a good position somewhere. Maybe try IT, that's like a year or two certification.

>>8051130
im shocked and hurt by these terrible accusations tbqh nim wow

WOW.

>>8051085
I like long nails on girls, as long as they're not fake nails. They look pretty feminine, and also it feels nice when they scratch your head.

How do I stop being emotionally numb

>>8051135
i h8 u

>>8051121
that's fine if you hate it but it isn't a meme that's for sure

>>8051105
just swallow a couple pills every day
not really much lost either way

>>8051139
I need to know the opposite of this

>>8051139
Take some of mine I am way too emotional lately ;_;

>>8051133
I mean they do get in the way a lot. you can't really clench your fist without stabbing yourself or being afraid you break your nail... And you can't even hold a mug with that.

Imagine really long toenails. That's how silly it looks to me

>>8051145
long nails are definitely a meme. I don't know how many times older women have said "you're not really a girl if you clip your nails".

>>8051139
Let me know if you figure it out. I thought estrogen would fix it.

>>8051139
listen to some lou reed

>>8051131
Really? I always thought I would have to go through a bunch of shit to scheduled an appointment.

>>8051142
dont say that ur the only person i like around here

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Friendly reminder that long fake nails are for trophy wives and other people who don't ever have to use their hands.

>>8051159
this
and old 'cougars'

>>8051139
I've
become so nuuuumbb

>>8051159
I wish I had long nails but unfortunately this. They get so brittle from washing dishes and stuff and I use them as tools way too often

>>8051122
well you know your shit good enough to get to a school to teach you more. I mean you are interested in chemistry so much that you want to study it you must know alot about it.

>>8051152
if you think french tips are long nails or somehow inhibit any daily activity then yeah im going to call bullshit and assuming you're talking out of your ass. you can have nice nails that aren't clipped short that don't get in the way at all

t. someone with french tips that gets them often

>>8051159
not worth the struggle to put in/take out contacts desu

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>last friday at the gender clinic
>>go tell everyone you're a tranny right now!
>>you can't physically tell you're a tranny yet so now is a good time :)
[stuttering intensifies]

>>8051159
that's why you keep them a reasonable length

>>8051166
if you have to worry about your nails, they obviously get in the way. But you probably don't use your hands for anything desu. You probably get other people to do shit for you.

wishin my brain wasn't the way that it is

>>8051171
picture above was not a reasonable length.

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>>8051139
I wish I knew

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>>8051152
Well I don't mind not clenching my fist, but I can still hold a mug
I just hold it the girly way with two hands
>>8051159
I don't get fake nails, they don't look as good as if you just take care of your nails imo and seem like more effort

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>>8050851
B-but I'm like the only girl there and everyone stares at me....

>>8050864
Yeah, I generally agree with that. Like fighting is a masculine activity and childrearing is feminine. Women will still fight if they have to, and men will raise children if they have to, but its preferable in such a situation for the man to fight whilst the woman raises the child.

You're def right, we are the exception, I think that the social reality is far more real to us than the physical however. Not to mention with hormone treatment it brings into question what the physical reality is- my mentality and emotional state is that of a female, this is fact. Even if my hormones are XY, at this point the only masculine thing about my body is my genitals- and the only reason I havent gotten that fixed is due to monetary restraint. I am phenotypically female, a transman who has been on hormones is phenotypically male.

>>8050887
I suppose thats true, if I dont associate it with masculinity I can be female to myself- but Ive always been female to myself.
Its not that I believe in spooks, its that spooks have a real effect on my life and Im not strong enough to fight them.
Im not trying to enforce them, I just dont want to fight them. Fighting is masculine, after all.

>>8050893
You're definetly right, I know other female wargamers- they're very few and far between, though. Girls tend to gravitate towards RPGs and TCGs before wargames, but I guess so does everyone because the cost of entry for wargames is high.

And yeah just because something is a social construct doesnt take away from its reality in regards to us. Humans are social animals and inherently yearn for companionship and acceptance, thats why its so devastating to get misgendered. Other people accepting us as our preferred gender is far more important that if we accept ourselves, anyone who claims a contrary opinion is lying to themselves.

>>8050916
I just do crunches to keep a flat tummy~

I wish I could get long nails and not nervously chew them :c

>>8051172
>being this wrong

im literally a waitress and my entire job involves using my hands constantly. not one time have I had to worry about my nails or have they hindered my work in the slightest. you have a very warped definition of what constitutes ""long"" nails

>>8051178
>hold it with two hards
cute actually owo
but it would burn you if it's a hot drink tho

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>>8051177
Hormones will probably make you more emotional, at least they did for me

>>8051157
omg rlly

>>8051179
>Fighting is masculine
moap you realize all the feminists that fought for women's rights were mostly women right

>>8051159
can i be one of those

>>8051184
They're ugly tho, if you're the person who posted her hands earlier.

It's just... eugh. Whenever I tried to grow my nails long and had them done correctly by a professional I felt so uncomfortable.

Just looking at them bothers me and kinda anger me, actually.

>>8051190
ya

>>8051173
What is wrong with your brain? :(

>>8050996
You're grasping......

>>8051196
i like you too okay

anne is it okay to leave the house in a stained hoodie and not brush your hair

>>8051195
sounds like a personal problem not an issue inherent with having nails

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What did I pass up on last night /mtfg/?

It was at the same park I picked up herion at

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>>8051165
Yeah I like chemistry but I do think it will show that I haven't set foot in a lab in 2 years.

>>8051179
Have you considered planks?
They do the same as crunches but even more because they work your entire core

>>8051197
sad and bad
hugg
>>8051182
start trying to break the habbit today!!

>>8051204
did u just walk to someone and asked if they had heroin?

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>>8050913
I actually agree with you, looks are everything and dictate your reality. On one hand, thats my shallow narcissism bleeding to the surface, but on the other hand it is a cold truth. As an example, I am certain most average looking women would trade spots with Edie and become a transwomen if it meant they could be prettier and sexier.

I disagree with you about behavior however, I thinmk behavior is just as big a contributor to gender identification if not a bigger contributor than appearance. Even looking as I do, I would not pass if I walked around in a manly gait, sat with my legs open scratching my crotch, talked of sexual conquests, and drank beer with the fellas whilst watching football.

>>8051203
well it's obviously a problem having to do with nails, seeing long nails (yours are definitely long if they protrude from your finger), growing nails... it's just uncomfortable and disgusting to me.

It's like really huge earrings to me. It's just 'old woman who uses too much perfume and makeup' aesthetic

>>8051210
Yes.

>>8051204
those are not girl pills

>>8051212
Chatroulete said me and bitchdrake(such a bitch) where fighting over you moap

I just want to clear it up that we're not

>>8051214
that's some grade A autism right there. I suggest getting out more and hanging out with cis girls.

>>8051202
yeah sometimes i go days without brushing my hair

>>8051220
Yeah i don't want to hang out with people who make me uncomfortable with their longass nails no thanks

>>8051212
>I am certain most average looking women would trade spots with Edie and become a transwomen if it meant they could be prettier and sexier.
I'm certain they wouldn't, considering the cost of this is having a dick and being unable to bear children.

>>8051225
Ngl I'm not a huge fan of the long nails but you're acting kind of weird about it.

>>8051219
>Chatroulete
lmao

>>8051228
Long nails are the weird thing

>>8051214
Honestly this
I hate the look of long nails

>>8051179
>I think that the social reality is far more real to us than the physical however
Ehh I'd say that too depends on the person. There's neurological structures that define self-identification (for example this is how a person knows that their reflection is them). Again if those develop improperly your brain is going to be mapped for a physical body that is the opposite sex as to what developed. I think for some people, this aspect may be more intense than the behavioral cues (in fact they develop separately, so you could have male behavioral structures and female self-body mapping and be REALLY confused)

And of course none of these structures are strictly speaking binary, so you can end up with behavioral structures that are not strongly masculine and maybe be a man who engages in a few typically feminine behaviors, but otherwise is content with their maleness. After o learned that I stopped hating nonbinaries as much as I used to, though I do think they need to not co-opt the trans label.

Basically it's all these different structures, which develop mostly independently but the sum of which is kind of the threshold for tranny or not.

Tbh the more I learn about neuroscience the more sure I am that we (trans people) are not delusional, but just miswired. It's a shame more cis people aren't aware of the science, maybe we wouldn't be so reviled.

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Long nails are kinda cute

>>8051240
agreed. personally I don't care for short nails and find them ugly and plain

>>8051234
thank you.
To clarify, it makes me so uncomfortable I can't stay close to a person playing or showing off their long nails on purpose.

It's kind of OCD, I want order, and the idea of something being longer than it should be bothers me. As well as the fact they can so easily break.

What bothers me in huge earrings, on the other hand is that they are huge and are 5th time the size of the person's ear. it looks wrong

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tfw girl with ponos

>>8051209
hug brain (eww)
What's making you sad?

>>8051240
long natural nails = trutrans
long fake nails = AGP
short nails = bulldyke AGP

>>8051243
this is a feeling I know very well

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>>8051233
No, caring at all about other people's nails is honestly the weird thing

>>8051250
Well call it a literally-autistic thing or whatever but it's really weird and makes me extremely uncomfortable.

>>8051207
isn't it hard to find a chemistry job with the degree you have rn? if yes the prof probably knows how people in your situation are

>>8051243
I'm happy someone saved my edit

liking anything: agp
disliking anything: agp

mtfg: stop liking what I dont like you agp fetishist reee

>>8051253
didn't know it was an edit just thought it was funny

you are very good at photo edit though

>>8051254
living: agp

>>8051260
stop not-liking what I like you agp fetishist reee*

>>8051250
Ya
>>8051212
Nah

Women like having kids

They're not that shallow

Seek sunlight step outside etc

@ entire thread
https://youtu.be/YyidECvEWik

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>>8051250
How dare you try to stop my conquest to obtain (you)s.

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I went extra hard on the tree punching and pushups today cuz y'all said I was weak

Ima dip in like an hour to go to that job training thing and ask them about where I can get clean clothes and shower cuz I stink at this point

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>>8051261
Thank you~
I'm not that great at editing pictures, but I'm glad you like it.

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>>8051252
It is, but I generally assume most people do better than working in retail

>>8051251
Don't judge people for wearing the kayla-chic look

>>8051266
Newfags need to know

>>8051274
reeeee

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>>8051272
Some people didn't even noticed the bottle in the background :>

>>8051271
Why not punch yourself in the face like a real tough person would?

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>>8051219
Everyone fights over me at some point, its ok. One day my father will hold a grand tournament to settle it all, Im particularly interested to see Drake beat Birdie in the first rounds.

>>8051226
They would and might even consider those both to be benefits, depending on the girl in question. Lots of girls would consider sterility and an end to periods to be a gigantic bonus.

>>8051237
>Ehh I'd say that too depends on the person. There's neurological structures that define self-identification
Gives a lot of validity to transfolk self identifying as their own gender.

My position on nonbinaries is still one of pick a gender to identify as but its ok to have traits of the other gender. Its just a social thing, we identify people as male or female upon meeting them and thats the social reality- and Ive already voiced how I believe the social reality is relatively more real that physical reality.

I dont care about the science desu, the validity of trans identity is irrelevant to how I will present. I will always grow my hair out, wear dresses and makeup, and work hard to maintain a soft blemish free appearance.

I do agree with your theory however, I think when we come up with the hard science on the miswired brain pathways we will push transpeople away from the LGB label and under the intersex label instead, which is how I feel it should be anyways desu.

>>8051240
I miss my french manicure, desu my nails are long enough again I just need to call the salon...

>>8051246
my body is never gonna change and i'll always have dysphoria
even if i didn't have dysphoria, i'd probably still kms because there's no reason for me to live at all
like fuck i stopped going to school a while ago because it felt like there was no point

>>8051278
I'm paranoid again ._.

>>8051289
sorry D:

>>8051284
Honestly I'm kinda in a same situation I just don't see the point of anything in life. Hope it gets better for you though.

delet delet delet did not know glooms was itt

It's gonna be ok glooms

>wake up
>scroll down
>hmmm that is a dick
>is that real or a cake or something
>nope its real

Okay, well then. What's everyone's adventerous plans for today?

>>8051274
I don't think doing better doesn't mean anything unless they have a chemistry related job or more experience than you have. how do you know others are doing better anyway?

>>8051290
bean you need to really clean your bepis, like really hard cleaning. And maybe shave or trip your pubes too. This doesn't look appetizing.

tfw qt af new jersey neighbor girl almost remembers ur birthday exactly..
she was in a car accident recently..im going to bring her some flowers...

Go to government office for job training thing.

Visit ocean to wash up.

Eat.

>>8051299

>>8051280
Ahh I think I misunderstood what you meant about social reality being more important than physical. I think I see what you mean now.

Mhm, re: Nonbinaries I do agree, because socially we have 2 genders (not sure but this is probably a neurological thing as well, it would make sense I just don't know for sure if there's any science about it). It sucks for them though, that their brains don't match social realities.

And, I'm definitely at the peak of the dunning-kruger curve here, this is all broscience and my own ideas about how this all works. But I think it makes sense, from what I've learned so far. I hope someday someone can get published research. I'm with you that I don't need science to justify anything, but lots of cis people insist on it :\

>>8051305
trim*

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>>8051071
>i don't like this person's convictions
>let's throw them off a helicopter
"now you see the violence inherent in his system."
how are you any different from sjws's?
it's also really rich seeing an ancap trying to tell others how to govern themselves & fantasizing about coercing them to do so w/ violence.
such a disgrace to anarchism

>>8051306
Bring her something nice to eat. :3

>>8051307
Showering in ocean water is pretty bad bean. They have public showers at the beach, go to redondo or hermosa.

>>8051147
it would be more getting the pills though

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>>8051307
congrats u now smell like fishy water
>>8051313
>:3

>>8051177
I don't even feel empathy really currently :/

>>8051305
Maybe you just don't like Cock
>>8051308
Kinda like English but with less meaning

>>8051313
>>8051306
Wack her with that stick you took on ur bike ride yesterday

>>8051310
Anarchism is a fucking JOKE

"Oh lol let's smash shit
b-but at the same time also abuse society and big daddy government just like literally everyone else"

Go live in the woods then pussys

>>8051313
:/

How?

I go to Santa Monica beach Cuz it's only one train I need to hop and that's super easy if you're constantly looking out for cops and Metro security

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH EVERYBODY
http://a.co/729JKBV

>>8051321
Better than what I smell like rn

Smelling like the ocean is good, it's a good smell.

I'd confidentiality go out with a girl if I smelled like the sea

Bet she'd dig my aquaman vibe too

>>8051321
tfw nobody to shove eels up my ass

>>8051325
santa monica beach might have some showers there, forgot you didn't have a car.

>>8051325
I love cock. clean yours

>>8051327
it's you!

>>8051331
just ask someone at a hotel for their mini soaps and shower with a sink or something jfc lol
>>8051332
iktf

OR THIS BIG BOY
http://a.co/3NHJOKV

>>8051294
>Hope it gets better for you though.
you too
sometimes i think about art
when i was a kid i wrote stories and drew pictures and stuff
now if tried drawing something what would it even be
there isn't anything about myself to express because i'm just so dead

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>>8051310
Violence is the cure to conflict, violence has been the supreme judge of disputes since the beginning of times. Compromise and coexistance has been the outlier and oddity.

>>8051271
>punches tree
>no blood
Weeeeeeeeeak

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>>8051212
>I disagree with you about behavior however, I think behavior is just as big a contributor to gender identification if not a bigger contributor than appearance. Even looking as I do, I would not pass if I walked around in a manly gait, sat with my legs open scratching my crotch, talked of sexual conquests, and drank beer with the fellas whilst watching football.
I understand. My main point was that if you looked like a woman but behaved like a man, you were still seen as a woman. And the other way around.
Care to explain more about the behaviour stuff? I'm really interested about your opinion.

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>>8051295
The winner of the tournament doesn't like win me romantically or win my hand in marriage something. You'd win me, like an object, and could do whatever the law allows you do with me- you'd be totally free to seek out other women for companionship.

Also your dick was a 4/10, id give it a 3 but you were uncut at least.

>>8051308
It does suck for them, but at least they arent hated as much as we are.
And eh you might have some details wrong but I agree with the general idea of your theory: there is an undiscovered physical real cause to gender dysphoria and its probably some neurological mumbo-jumbo.