/ftmg/ - female to male general

>>7994616
>carry a towel

For...what purpose?

My sister said she thinks of transitioning
She is 13 atm
What do? Our mother seems strongly against it.

>>7994990
You have to be 18 to post on Tunguskan cat collectors boards

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>>7994990
When going somewhere new, you should always bring a towel!

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>>7995037
kek

>>7995000
Get your sibling a gender therapist. >>7995000

>tfw skipped a 3 months waiting period and am gonna see an endocrinologist tomorrow
im scared brehs

>>7995279
Try to stay relaxed and confident and you will do fine.

>>7995279
How did you skip the waiting period?

>>7994990

if i remember right it's something about not looking like you're ill-prepared when you travel through the galaxy... been a long time though

>>7995368
im mostly scared that theyre going to reject me, theyre just blockers and all but that terrifies me the most
>>7995393
cancellation, was gonna have to wait till May so its pretty sweet

When do I start liking males?

In all seriousness, I feel like my dating pool got smaller since I started T.

>>7995900
You only like girls? In that case you won't start liking males. Only gay/lesbian trannies turn bi. Straights stay straight.

>>7995909
Yeah, I'm boring like that.
Weird thing is that straight girls are willing to fuck lesbians but are iffy when it comes to ftms.

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how attainable is pic related level of facial hair for an ftm? all of my male relatives can grow facial hair but ive never seen an ftm with a really thick beard and mustache

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>>7995900
I got you, bro
>>>/fit/

>>7995949
me on the left

>>7995957
>telling an ftm to want to be the little girl

>>7996018
Not wanting to be a FtMtF isn't very progressive of you

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>>7995011
wait, wasn't moot underage b& when he started 4chan?

>>7995000
eyes glanced right over this one

I started transitioning (not testosterone until 4 years later) at 11, I think they should go for it if they feel its the best option. get a therapist. support him. deal with bullies in a better manner than the school will because I can almost 100% guarantee you that the school will do near jack shit.

>>7995900
idk develope a fetish for feminine benis and feminizing masc men and/or feminine men and, suprise, now your gay.

>>7996111
You are the only ftm I've seen who looks older than he is

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>>7996141

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0vER2SXIEc5

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>>7995900
Imagine being so masc you get to top and dominate a cisgay. Feel hot. Tumble back into dysphoria once you realize that it's a difficult thing to achieve. Vent it out through online erotic roleplay. Get obsessed with the idea. Never look at a girl again.

>>7996279
DADDY VARG!

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>>7996353
we need more people listening to black metal in the world

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What do you do for a living?
What do you want to do for a living?

Will having one kidney prevent me getting T?

>>7995949
depends on your genetics. I've seen trans men on t for one year with wizard beards and I've been on t for three years and I have three thick-ish hairs that grow on my chin.

>>7996568
are you asian/native american?

>>7994616
What made you decide to make the switch from female to male?

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>>7996385
I'm working as a 3D designer for an important company. Plenty of money, nice and competent people, it mostly requires me to pretend I know my shit. Most things I do there are classified.
>tfw I'm living the dream
At last.

>>7995949
It's all genetics (and how long on T you are). I know a dude who's been on T for like 6-12 months and who could easily pull off that level of facial hair, but I'd say he's a bit abnormal. You gotta remember that even with cis dudes it takes a while before they can grow a full beard (and some can't grow a full beard ever) and they have a headstart compared to you.

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>>7994616
>tfw just turned 20
>first day of night classes at college tonight bc no morning options left
>look up everyone on the roster on fb
>all 35 year old mexican women with jobs and kids

how awkward is this going to be broheims? i have horrible social anxiety

>>7996672
Why are you doing part-time classes?

>>7996672
>everyone there is tired from working all day and taking care of their families
>they're most likely there specifically for work advancement, not to hang out and chat or have a college experience
>night time - most people are tired
sounds like a dream if you have bad anxiety bc it shouldn't matter

>>7996111
>>7996294
I tried convincing myself that I could but I really don't like men at all, or mtfs. There's a shitload of you in here who are into dudes so it seemed more common to me.

I'm pretty smooth in general but it gets weird when a girl says she wants to hop on my dick and I need to go all "Yeah, my dick. About that."

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>>7996683
bc i signed up for regular classes but was too scared to go inside so i dropped them but felt bad about it, so i signed up again and the only thing left was quick term classes

>>7996695
i guess, i just feel like im going to be isolated since i have nothing in common with anyone

>>7996705
>"Yeah, my dick. About that."
Kek, too relateable.

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>>7996594
depression, disphoria, and suicidal thoughts

>>7996720
>implying all introverts are virgins

bitch, please

what are you afraid of ?
were you homeschooled?

>>7996594
For the priviledge gainz

>>7996720
>head cranes forward
>struggles to autowalk
how do they know?!

>>7997013
Did it work? I heard you have to be pretty aggressive and confident to actually take advantage.

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>>7996720
>those t-rexmode arms

>>7996111
How did you get to transition so young?

>>7996614
You lucky little bastard

>>7997111
Gypsy magic

>>7997111
I just figured myself out at a young age yknow, plus with my mother being bisexual, her sister/my aunt being a lesbian, and some of her best friends being gay guys and lesbians, she was pretty accepting of me. got me a therapist literally the day after I came out. only bad thing is that she made me sit down and watch boys dont cry that same day. It was kind of a come out this moment or jump out the 3rd story window kind of thing. I think I figured myself out so early on because of all the meds I was on at a very young age maybe made me more in tune with myself or something.

>>7997013
>men
>privileged

>>7997205
>mortals
>privileged

>>7997143
That is pretty cool of your mom to be so understanding. My experience with lesbians back in the day was that they were pretty ignorant of trans issues, and they would treat ftms as confused girls that wanted to be boys for "privilege" or due to restricted gender roles. It is good instead of telling you a girl can be anything she wants she took you to a gender therapist.

How did your dad react when you came out?

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>>7997214
my biofather got told a week later over the phone by my mother so I don't really know how he reacted, I just know that the next time I saw him, he said I was trying to copy my brothers lesbian friend who I hardly even know.
my dad on the other hand took it pretty well, we go hunting and fishing together sometimes, play vidya together and stuff.
Also my brother at first called me a confused lesbian but now he just treats me like his brother, we smoke together and also play vidya together, skate, party, chill, even started a band with him.

>>7997235
>Also my brother at first called me a confused lesbian but now he just treats me like his brother, we smoke together and also play vidya together, skate, party, chill, even started a band with him.

Do you have any other siblings? Is he older or younger than you?

>>7997252
he's older than me by 2 1/2 years, only other sibling.

>>7997280
Interesting, siblings tend to get along better with same gender siblings. It sounds like since he didn't have a brother before he realized he really likes having a brother.

>>7996514
Probably not, since kidneys don't really mess with reproductive hormones.
You're really better off asking a doctor, though. They're supposed to go over health complications with you before you get prescribed.

>>7997328
Siblings close in age tend to fight like dogs

>>7997355
sniff butts and run in circles?

>>7997341
Depends. Some forms of t do mess with your organs, specifically the tablet forms. Which is why they're not prescribed for very long where I live.

Is there an ftm version of rubber band to the balls?

>>7997143
Did they put you on blockers at least?

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>>7997627
nope, I was the therapists first transgender patient so all of their information came from me and all of my information came from susans place or some chat room if I remember correctly. I dont think I even knew about blockers at that time, just testosterone and surgeries.

I think the worst part about coming out prepeubescent is watching yourself grow feminine features and getting period even though you were out as trans before those things began and then getting told it's a peuberty teenage phase.

>>7997681
That's.. actually quite dangerous on their part. But I guess this was a while back.

>>7997681
So they just watched as you grew breasts, got periods and stuff.

They at least let you socially transition?

>>7997731
no they didn't watch me get that stuff, it's more like me watching myself. I don't think they really saw anything. The first time I shoplifted was shoplifting ace bandages, then one day I asked my mother for a binder after a whole year of ace bandages. I hid periods with a lot of toilet paper and "sick days" from school. basically my early years were hiding myself and I payed the toll of stretch marks on my chest and such.
I pretty much socially transitioned before I even came out in a way.

>>7997772
Did you get called by a male name at school, did everyone think of you as a boy? Did you have a male haircut?

>>7997810
yes to all

>>7997824
How did you handle PE? Did you get to use the boy's locker room?

Did you get to use the boy's bathroom?

Or was the school too weirded out by that?

What about you?

A close friend of mine is risking becoming homeless and without a job.

I resent myself for not doing *enough* to help him, but he's been barely above the surface for months by now and me just "being there" or whatever isn't helping at this point; the only way I could actually help would be financially, but it would be a temporary solution at best because his problems are deeper rooted in the social security system that just isn't working. Not to mention, I'm a minimum wage worker myself.

Even then, I feel guilty about the fact that I'm not living the minimalist life to help him out. My margins are way spacier than his, not to mention I've a family to back me up, which he doesn't. The fact that his family can't deal with him being trans (among other things) is the reason he's in the situation to begin with.

Sorry for blogpost. From my understanding there's people from all sorts of socioeconomic status here, how do you guys deal with having friends who're hard to level with because of that?

>>7997874
for the first 4 years I changed in a bathroom, used an office bathroom, and the school was not necessarily accepting, but now in HS I just change in the boys locker room and use the boys bathroom despite for the past few weeks it technically being illegal for me to use the boys bathroom in school. I dont take any workout classes anymore because I get really bad chest pains

>>7997894
Did you have your breasts removed?

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>>7997917
I wish

>>7997930
You go to use the boys locker room with a binder? Do you use a STP device for going to the bathroom, or do you wait to use the stalls all the time?

If I were you I would be so pissed off with this doctor, having to have breasts grow after coming out, and not doing anything to stop it, and still have it.

Since it has been many years, is there no-one in the school that knows you used to be a girl?

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>>7997974
I have an STP but I dont use it often, everyone uses the bathrooms inbetween classes so I just use it during class instead.
I get angry thinking about how I could've had no breasts or curves had I known about hormone blockers earlier, makes me angry.
I know some of my closest friends know I'm trans but other than that, the teachers and principle know since I haven't had an official name change (step father spent the name change money on lotto tickets and they cant hold on to money for longer than 5 fucking minutes)

>>7997995
Do you date, or is that just not in the card for now?

>>7997995
I can't picture you with tits or curves, knowing how you look like. I literally started a month ago and I've never had either of those, at least I was lucky that way.

>>7996720
>hair seems to overreact to wind
>overtakes anyone walking slightly slower
WHO IS WATCHING ME

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>>7998241
I was/am trying to get with someone but I don't really know if the feelings are returned
other than that, I don't think I've ever dated anyone, nobodies ever asked me out or anything but I'd be down to date.
>>7998260
It's probably worse in my head desu

>>7997894
>past few weeks
If you mean Texas, it's just past the Senate, it's not an actual law yet. Still time to make a stink about it and the leader of the House is opposed to it as a waste of time.

>>7997995
Do you end up having to use a binder when you change clothes in the locker room, or did that not ever come up?

>>7998715
I still changed in a bathroom stall but it was in the mens locker room so nobody saw me wearing a binder or anything

>>7998734
Did any other guys think is weird or bring it up at all?

>>7998746
other guys would also use the stalls to change in too so I just blended right in

>>7998431
>I was/am trying to get with someone but I don't really know if the feelings are returned
>other than that, I don't think I've ever dated anyone, nobodies ever asked me out or anything but I'd be down to date.
Do you date guys or girls or both?

>>7998927
guys but maybe mtfs too under pretty specific conditions.

>>7998977
Gay ftms are common as hell.

>>7996385
Nighttime shelf stocker.

>>7999018
hi I'm straight

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>>7996720
UPDATE;
i went and accidentally said something racist about mexicans when asked a question about immigration and now im dropping out

>>7999488
why you racist anon

>>7999488
lmaaaoo

>>7999488
Did you get a chancla thrown at you on your way out?

>>7999018
I thought there was a lot of pressure to remain "a straight girl". Since not only you're trans, but even if you're stealth, it will be obvious you're gay if you're dating. As opposed to "staying cis het".

>>7998977
Are you out as gay?

How did you know at such a young age for certain that you were a boy?

>>8000318
Yeah, somewhat. I kinda tell people but I look straight apparently so I just leave it be.

I really can't recall how I figured it all out.

sometimes its hard to connect and talk with my boyfriend outside of sex...
i just cant think of anything to say, and most of our conversations have been bland when we have talked... our interests are about the same, but i just cant think of anything to say to him half the time

>>8000736
why not just talk about your interests or start off with a hello or whatever and see where it goes?

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Everyone at work can tell I'm transitioning but I haven't had "that talk" with any of them yet. I keep overhearing them say that I'm "turning into a guy" and shit but don't know how to make the conversation that already should've happened happen.

>>8001737
1. talk to hr to discuss your options
2. compose a team email for coming out

boom

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>>8001744
There's no emails, it's a labor job. Face to face conversation with multiple people at once (probably my whole team) is the only way to get it done.

If I could think of anything remotely funny I'd open with a joke.

>>8000736
>our interests are about the same,
What are they?

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nth for profits

>>8001834
>"Everything is allowed."
>implying the state would let people do what they want even when consenting

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>>8001847
>implying the state

>>8001857
>Russia
>no state
You could not be more wrong!

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>>8001861
And there's the problem

>>8001863
>signing a marriage contract
Proof you don't need to be a statist to be a cuck.

How do you spot a closeted / repressing ftm?

>>8002452
Self-inserts into yaoi fanfiction.

>>8002452
baggy sweaters or plaid shirts, shortish hair, tomboy most likely

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>tfw you will never have that jaw

>>8002487
>plaid shirts,
I thought that was repressing mtfs?

>can I help you, sir?
>uh, ma'am
Hope he doesn't dwell on that. And I think I went to school with him too...

>>8002509
plaid confirmed for tranny official clothes

>>8002509
I thought it was lesbians.

>>8002452
Apparently my most clockable trait was to slip in conversations, like "guys like us", "girls are like that, they....", "live like a king". I've done that since I was a kid. I was also told I sat like a guy, my gait was like a guy, and I mansplained, manspread, and had a very masculine body language in general.

(forgive rabbit poop. I'm not the brookie)

>>8002509
all self hating pepel wear plaid

>>8002529
>"guys like us", "girls are like that, they....", "live like a king"
Huh, I'd have thought those could all be used in a gender-neutral sense, or for the middle one just talking about girls in general without including or excluding yourself. I talk about girls and guys as "they" as though I were neither...

Any other phrases like that you got called on?

>>7995067
What a dreamboat

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>Shave my stubble
>Get a hair cut
>Look in mirror
>Look like a dyke

Been 6 years on T and first time feeling dysphoria for a minute.

>>8002618
>Get a hair cut

found your problem.
let it grow out.
feel better.
*hugs*

>>8002555
I guess. It really depends on context though.

>Any other phrases like that you got called on?
People talking exclusively about guys and I responded as if it included me. Especially with answers that included "we". "No, we don't do that" etc.

>>8002653
>*hugs*

>>8002664
>Especially with answers that included "we". "No, we don't do that" etc.
Wow yes, now that's a big hint.

>>8002774
Didn't even do it consciously. Just naturally lumped myself in with the cis guys, even as a kid. I became aware of it after people started pointing it out.

>>8002848
How would they point it out? I wonder how someone who doesn't know about trans topics would interpret hearing somebody, especially a kid, speak like that.

>>8002852
Usually people don't care.
Back in primary school I dressed like a boy, had short hair, and talked like that. The school saw it as a phase (even though I did it since before school age) and told my parents to correct my behavior. The teachers started praising me like a retard if I did something feminine and punish me every time I did something boyish. Got serious aggression issues after that.

>>8002935
>and told my parents to correct my behavior.
Who the fuck do they think they are?

>The teachers started praising me like a retard if I did something feminine and punish me every time I did something boyish.
Detention or just telling you off? Either way, way out or order. Did your parents stick up for you against them?

>>8002848
I don't know this seems to suggest that just because you get along better with boys then you must be a a boy. I guess I can imagine girls that have masculine mannerisms and interests that get along better with boys, but aren't really male.

>>8002951
The school corrected the behavior of all the kids behaving weird. That's how normies are created.

>>8002977
I insisted on using the boys' bathroom and claimed to the others that my penis had been displaced and would be fixed later. Tomboys don't do that.

>>8003025
>I insisted on using the boys' bathroom and claimed to the others that my penis had been displaced and would be fixed later. Tomboys don't do that.

I meant that in general, I don't like people trying to figure out if other people are secretly trans or not, because it would lead to a lot of false positives. I think if someone identifies as female even if there are a lot of signs that they might be male, I just let them be.

>>8003043
The main trait of being trans is how people feel, not what they say or do. The key is to ask them how they see themselves.

>>8003025
>The school corrected the behavior of all the kids behaving weird. That's how normies are created.
Jeez. What did they do to correct you and others? Did any parents object?

> talking to a job recruiter on the phone
> can't tell if he's calling me "ma'am" or "man"

I got laid off last week, so I guess I'm stuck suffering through any gender misconceptions if it expedites any potential employment.

>>8003025
>The school corrected the behavior of all the kids behaving weird. That's how normies are created.
I thought that led to people either embracing their interests in college, or becoming repressed, and hating people that are not normies, while shamefully taking on their interests in secret.

>>8003134
yes

>>8003101
No physical punishment. It was mostly shaming. Isn't this pretty standard in schools?

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>>8003180
>shaming

>teacher makes mistake on the board
>point it out in "don't you mean" fashion
>"Nobody. Likes. A smart-dick."
>still think about it thirteen years later

>>8002653
*sigh*

>>8000736
You've been with him for so long, I imagine you guys have talked about anything and everything with each other.
Just read up on some new shit that interests you and start a discussion with him

>>8003528
try meditation and/or hypnotherapy.
you can relax and go back to that time and place and relive it as an adult and literally change the outcome.
your subconcious mind doesn't know the difference and will replace the memory with the new outcome where you are stronger and protected.
The anxiety then disappears.

I've done this with several traumatic childhood events and the results are hugely positive.

I really feel like an hero today.

>>8000736
Shared projects. Be it a cosplay, a TV-series, a home-renovation thing, whatever. Shared projects, especially ones which need both of your strengths, are great for welding bonds.

>>8003986

not me... my s/o and i have our problems, but finding stuff to talk about isn't one of them + i never call him my bf, we're past dating

>finally bit the bullet and came out to family
>they were supportive and actually not all that suprised
>but they had one issue with my name
>was named after my late grandmother
>much sentimental attachment
>there is no male equivalent
>feeling guilty
>tell them im taking my grandpas name in its place
>turns out that, even though i was real close with my grandpa growing up, my parents both hated him because he didnt like my dad
>openfootinsertmouth.jpg

>>8004018
Doesn't it feel weird to be totally aware you've made your memory help you lie to yourself?

>>8004018

what's the point in forgetting shit that's happened? bad or good it's past of you anyway... acknowledging shit's that's happened and moving forward without glossing over it makes more sense to me anyway...

>>8004104

it'll pass, i feel like that frequently eventually it goes away... you're just feeling like that right now, focus on other shit no sense in doing something permanent while you're emotional

>>8004635

part of you* my bad, i'm high... been keeping this shit going since about 9 am

>>8003180
>No physical punishment. It was mostly shaming. Isn't this pretty standard in schools?
I was always teacher's pet but looking back and hearing other people's stories school was really horrible. It's bad enough getting shamed by other kids without the grown-ups who are supposed to be looking after you joining in.

How's 75 pushup/minute for a transguy?

>>8004669

teachers never bothered trying to shame me after a bit, it didn't work and they'd just end up more frustrated... i got sent to other classrooms, the hall, and the principal's office a lot instead... it didn't work either but i guess they didn't have to deal with me and that was more the point...

i did see a fat teacher sit on a kid in first grade and saw one in 7th throw a desk at this girl who she harassed and made cry every time the girl was in school...

>>8004705
>i got sent to other classrooms, the hall, and the principal's office a lot instead...
What for?!

>>8004715

being disruptive mostly ... cuz of shit people talking to me instead of paying attention to the teacher and annoying the teachers when i was really bored and didn't care for them...

and for not doing work, missing a lot of class, either cuz i was doing shit like leaving and then wandering around in the building until classes that i found really boring were over or i'd just leave...

i usually didn't go at all though

>>8004743

shit like*

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>>8004670
Not bad, IIRC that qualifies you for service in the Marines. Definitely impressive if you're pre-T.

>>8004753
I did 60/min pre-T, now I'm one month on T.
I got rejected twice from the Army because I'm on several meds and behavioral issues.

>>8004715

i was a really bad student... i got really good grades, scholarships, awards etc and tested well, but as far as actually functioning well in that environment goes i couldn't manage it

i don't learn that way, and i have a bad attention span... i also can't handle schedules and don't like doing work that's unnecessary because i'm lazy and if i don't have to put effort into something i won't unless there's a pleasure reward at the end of it...

i also never really cared about any kind of "authority" teachers held over me, so nothing they said bothered me i knew i was going to graduate whether they failed me or not cuz testing can fix everything in nyc (there's a regeants test, get an 85 and above you get all the credits you need for the class whether or not you fail... so technically you only need one good day out of the year to get by), and i wasn't worried about getting in trouble... i grew up getting the shit beaten out of me on a regular basis nothing a teacher could legally do was gonna affect me so there was no reason to respect them aside from as individuals... if i liked their personality i'd be more cooperative and better behaved when i showed up

>>8004743
You're not >>8002935 then? He said his school shamed him for acting like a boy, not just being disruptive.

>>8004783

nah... that's someone else

>>8004783

+ i was just talking shit cuz i'm high, drunk, and like i said i've seen a teacher throw a desk at a kid... had one who'd make kids stand in garbage cans and say "i'm trash," he never tried it with me but he did that with a few kids...

>>8004608
Have you already developed an attachment to that name or are you willing to keep looking?
You can try asking your parents what they would've named you if you were born a male.

>>8004778
I love you

>>8004858

i love you too...

>>8004903
>female pov
>in /ftmg/
for what purpose?

>>8004891
Pls b my bf

>>8004945
because the guy is trans...
it's nice seeing erotic pictures of trans guys with girls. most of it is gay stuff.
I didn't think anything of the pov until you pointed it out but I get why a lot of people might be put off by that.

>>8004956
>it's nice seeing erotic pictures of trans guys with girls. most of it is gay stuff.
Not even the one who posted it but yeah, kinda put off by all the gay and yaoi uwu stuff.

>>8004950

sure... come over

>>8004956
oh wow, he looks super cis besides the scars.

>>8004903
>want to date/sex girls
>feel inadequate
how do I get over this? it's not true, r-right?

>>8004828
I did and they said Chase and I instantly cringed lol. So that's out. I had planned on using my grandpa's name for a while though so there is some attachment. I think they'll get over it eventually too cause it comes from whatever leftover "rebellious daughter syndrome" my mom still harbors against him.

Tbh I feel more guilty throwing away the name they gave me than anything because of their reasons for giving it to me. I might tell them I want to keep it as a middle name maybe.

>>8005383

no reason to feel inadequate, you don't need a dick to get a chick off... there's more to relationships than shit like that anyway, but regardless unless she wants a kid there's nothing to worry about... and even then, threesomes are fun

>>8005399
Yeah I feel that. My parents were really proud of the name they picked for me, and I feel bad because I honestly hate it.
I liked my male-backup name though, it fits me pretty well.

Anyway, good luck to you. Maybe you'd be able to "override" your parents' impression of your grandfather's name?
What I mean is that people usually base their feelings about a name on one person they knew with that name. In their case, they associate your chosen name with your grandpa and their feelings toward him. If they get used to referring to you by that name, they'd start associating you with the name and not feel as much resentment toward it. As long as you don't do anything that reminds them of your grandpa.
It'd be a long process but you don't necessarily have to give it up if you don't want to.

>>8005614
>and I feel bad because I honestly hate it.
How can you hate your own name?

I feel neutral to mine, apart from it being the wrong sex.

>>8005654
It's not really fun to make a nickname out of, people would always struggle pronouncing it (even though it's honestly really easy, they just overthink it), something about the combination of letters bothers me, I associate it with this alternate persona that I put on for people in my girlmode, and it's kind of a "cultural" name but for a culture that I'm not related to whatsoever.

I just honestly think it was a really terrible name for me, but my parents had this whole sentimental plan and attachment when picking it out.

Hey do FTM cucks exist?

>>8005921
Odds are there's at least one out there.

>>8005921
>be mtf
>have ftm bf
>he doesn't want piv
>doesn't want me getting fucked by other guys
>is ok with me doing lesbian stuff
>get to dick girls he picks up

hey /ftmg/ I'm not ftm but am attracted to transmen as well as cismen, but want to be sexually active with transmen as well, so had some questions.

when transmen get bottom surgery, do they usually get a phallus of some sort to use in sex? does it give them pleasure to have sex with it/get it sucked? I'm fairly certain there's no way to ejaculate but do transmen usually get balls as well?
And lastly, do most transmen even want all this or would rather not either do to just not wanting it or money reasons?

>>8006926
Two kids of FTM bottom surgery, metoidplasty and phalloplasty. Both make balls, there's downsides to both. Google and read about it if you're interested. They're both really expensive and imperfect, I was recently reading about a guy who was on his 22nd revision surgery and regretted the whole thing.

Personally I'm all set with that shit.

Whether or not a transguy is gonna be cool with vaginal or anal penetration is up to him.

>>8007264
ok...I just want to be open to being with transmen but being sexually active is a big thing for me and it makes me feel like a dick if I'm turning down transmen because some have vaginas. And I mean, there could be a chance I meet a transmale who makes me ignore that because I love the rest of him so much, but idk.

>>8007280
Having a genital preference doesn't make you a dick, and anyone who says otherwise is deluded.

>>8006926
Date an AAP. They are more likely to be into guys than other FtMs and more likely to be ok with PIV sex.

>>8007318
oh I'm not a guy, I'm a cisgirl just looking for info

>>8007347
That changes things. AAPs are more likely to be bi too so it partly still applies.

>>8007371
AAPs?

>>8002509
>>8002519
>>8002520
>>8002534

Plaid is for lesbians, both kinds of trannies, gay lumberjacks, regular lumberjacks, hipster faggots, and scots.

It's funny how something can seem so ubiquitous to so many completely unrelated people. Plaid, the great unifier.

>>8002848
>>8002852

I did that kinda shit too. People mostly blew it off as a dyke/tomboy/brainfart thing.
A couple of kids did ask if I wanted to be a boy, but the concept of trans shit was completely foreign to us at that age in that time period. So it wasn't really clocking, they might as well have asked me if I wanted to be a dragon or something. The implication seemed to be "are you trying to be something you're not?" and I just told them to fuck off.

>>8004608

If you plan on having kids, you could promise to name your firstborn daughter that. And pray she doesn't turn out trans too. But if that happened, then honestly, your grandmother obviously punched a witch back in the day or something, so fuck her and her curse-debt.

>>8006165
>dicking
>lesbian

>>8007264
>I was recently reading about a guy who was on his 22nd revision surgery and regretted the whole thing.
Jesus christ. I'm gonna regret this, but... link?

>>8007868
cayden-carter.tumblr.com

A recent ask was where he said he regretted it but the phalloplasty tag has more info. It's sad, but something that people should be aware of.

>>8007868
He's suing for malpractice and apparently you can access the case information online but I can't find it.

Unrelated to this dude's botched crotch, why don't we have an IRC? Any interest?

>>8007347
>oh I'm not a guy, I'm a cisgirl
Did I just find a mythical creature?

Evening lads

>>8007955
>apparently you can access the case information online but I can't find it.
http://charliefromscratch.tumblr.com/post/158464396384/how-can-i-search-your-lawsuit-i-was-actually

>think I'm a bi ftm
>100% into guys, love my s/o to bits
>girls are hot, but as soon as I think of any sexual activity that involves their vaginas I get completely disgusted
>probably projecting
How do I get over this?

>>8008109
Get over what? Not liking vaginas isn't something you can just get over, really.

>>8008065
>leaking feces

Grody. I didn't realize that phallo would meddle with your shit bits any.

>>8008109
You're not bi then.

>>8008109

give eating pussy a try

>>8008109
Having a cute girlfriend helps-- somehow it's totally different if it's on her and she's enjoying what I'm going. You probably also have internalized misogyny going on, of the 'dicks are totally normal but ew vaginas are gross' variety if you're young and sexually inexperienced, because that's how the media portrays sex organs to us.

That said, I'm bi too, and even prefer women more often than not, but I really have to be careful with what straight porn I watch so it doesn't set off my dysphoria.

>>8008465
Can we not do the feminism thing?

>>8008465

i like straight porn, i find men and women attractive and it has both...

>>8008154
Related: fave position for pussy eating?

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Couldn't find a passing thread, sorry. What can I do better?

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Anyone else want kids? My mom is saying that gestational surrogacy is a waste of money if I can do it, but I don't want a fucking fetus in me. I can adopt too, but I'm not too bad looking, y'know.

>>8005013
Never seen ftm yaoi shit outside of /d/

>>8008465
>internalized misogyny
Wew

>>8009070
You can adopt a cute baby.

>>8008934

as long as no one's sitting on my face it's whatever... i'm not against doing that, if it gets a chick i'm with off then whatever, but i'm not a huge fan of being in that position for oral sex, i like to be in control with women typically

>>8009020
Improve posture

Passing thread should be under passgen

>>8009020
Lose a bit of weight.

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I might be on TV soon and I don't want to look like a girl. What should I do, apart from getting a haircut? My hair hasn't been cut in ages.

>>8009314
Cut your hair and grow a bit of beard. Are you on T at least?

>>8009314
You British? What's this TV chance?

>>8009314
Squarish autism glasses

>>8009314
clench your jaw and lower your eyebrows so you look angry. it helps, im not even kidding

Just curious, those of you who play vidya, what games do you play??

Well /ftmg/ thought I had AIDS literally. Everything came back negative. Just hospitalized because I was severely dehydrated.

>>8010161
Souls saga (demon's souls\all dark souls\bloodborne), the Witcher 1\2\3, The first three Thief games, Elder scrolls, Shadowrun (the ones by harebrained) and isometric rpgs in general, played years of WoW too. I like others too but these are my favourites.

>>8009412
>grow a bit of a beard
Wow the answer is so simple how did they not think of it before?
>>8009314
Dye your hair darker unless your roots will already grow back in time.

Can't relate to most tranny stories. Accepting parents, even grandparents, what is this bizarro earth?

>>8010744
Eh i mean my family just rolled with it because at the end of the day what kind of hormones I have in my system doesn't change the fact it's still me and nothing has changed between me and them. I mean, ultimately whether or not I have a deep voice and a pedostache doesn't really influence their lives aside from calling me a new name. They slip all the time and still refer to me as female sometimes, but that's normal, they were used to it. They were cool with my choice and that's enough for me. It all depends on the expectations they had, imo. My family thought I was just an autistic dyke, but when I told them about my choice they didn't really mind, didn't find it weird.

>>8009020
Thicken out the eyebrows a a bit

>>8010744
See, most of the stories I see are about unaccepting parents and I can't relate to that.
Although mine aren't 100% accepting, either..

Anyone have parents/family who was somewhere in the middle?

>>8010563
Are you a slut or is that just bad hyperbole?

>>8008065
I couldn't get anything but an error from trying to search the case files. Anyone have some screencaps?

>>8010853
My folks are okay with me wearing men's clothes, wearing a binder, etc, they know I want to go on hormones and get top surgery, they know my friends refer to me as "he" but they don't ever really refer to me as "he". I guess that's somewhere in the middle.

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>>8005921
i would like to watch my gf get fucked by a real man with a coke can cock desu that would be hot as fuck

>>8010985
https://query.sftc.org/Minds_asp_pdf/Viewer/DownLoadDocument.asp?PGCNT=0 Here, this is the full thing I found searching the case. Viewer discretion advised, it's fucking horrible. I'm glad I don't care enough about phallo to be willing to risk this sort of shit.

>>8011045
Yeah that's how mine are. My mom's helping where she can with the insurance and medical shit, but she hasn't made any effort at all to refer to me as a guy.

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>>8010985
goes on like so

if i may say, fuck that

>>8011066
Don't do it.
Once he tastes a thick dick he will never be satisfied with your shrimp.

>>8011262
do you know how to read

>>8011295
pronoun confetti

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I've been thinking about goung back to living as a girl. Again. I've been on T for 2 years. I pass. Everyone knows me as a guy. I'm thinking of going to college next year, and I was going to get my name changed. But I can't figure out the fuck I want.

>>8011883
Why would you ever want to go back to living as a girl?

>>8011983
I don't really know what's going on in my head. Sometimes I miss doing girly things and being cute. Some things were easier. Maybe I miss how routine and familiar it feels.

>>8012100
>Some things were easier.
Which things? Which were harder?

>Maybe I miss how routine and familiar it feels.
What's it like now instead?

>>8012161
Easier things like not having to worry about passing, surgeries, legal documents.

Since I've transitioned, it's been a mental strain. Yes, I felt more comfortable, I like the changes T gave me, I like how I look. But it has always felt fake. I have to put effort into being a guy. For some ftms this isn't a problem, but for me it feels really wrong. It always has.

>>8012204
As long as you pass can't you just behave however the fuck you want without worrying how "guyish" it looks? You don't need to follow a checklist of Male Commandments (tm). Unless you're uncomfortable with being referred to and treated as a guy. But on your end you're not forced to never do girly things again or feel 100% pure male all the time. Thing is, if you're trans you are so due to a crippling discomfort with your body and the perception\expectation\reality discrepancy, not much about changing who you are as an individual. You're not "Being a guy" if you get my meaning, it's still you and it will always be you, just seeking a treatment for a psychiatric\medical condition. Then of course there's roles that come automatically with being perceived as a guy, but then you're not forced to stick to those if you don't want to. You can behave like a fag and it still applies.

>>8012204
>But it has always felt fake. I have to put effort into being a guy.
Fake how? What sort of effort?

If you pass now will you even be able to detransition and present as a girl again?

>Yes, I felt more comfortable,
This is the important part. How much more comfortable now? Would not being masculine be manageable for you?

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>>8012328
Fake as in needing shots and a different name to be male. And maybe surgery.

I was more comfortable once I passed. But for the past 2 months I've been really feeling like "being a girl again".

I really don't know what to think or do.

And if I do detransitioning, I can still present as female just fine. I never got super masculine.

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>>8012354
Sounds like you already know what to do. I'm just mystified as to how to got to 2 years on T without figuring it out.

Any way to make my eyes look smaller? I literally pass everywhere else (jaw, face, body) except for my eyes which are big and feminine as fuck. I'm not on t yet, any ideas?

>>8012100
>Sometimes I miss doing girly things and being cute.
Men can do girly things and be cute.

>>8013994
Guys with bambi eyes are hot

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>>8013994

Poison ivy?

>>8013994
squint constantly

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>>8014036

Good advice

Is there an alternative for "take hrt, stay in the closet" AGp tactic for AAPs other than just getting top surgery and staying at retarded bf%s


>>8008465
>'dicks are totally normal but ew vaginas are gross' variety if you're young and sexually inexperienced, because that's how the media portrays sex organs to us.
w-what
My general impression from the media is that pussy is supposed to be hot especially if you're male

>>8013994
I don't think there's anything you can do without obvious makuep

>tfw will never be able to have a biological son with a qt wife

>>8012373
I really don't know what to do. I detransitioned once already. It's embarrassing and confusing to everybody.

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>>8014067
>you'll never have a cute daughter to launch into space so she can spend years in complete social isolation


>>8014072
Have you tried not being stealth?
And being a masculine female

If I get diagnosed with schizophrenia, are the doctors going to take me off of T? Does anybody know?

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>>8013994
Exaggerate it

>>8014072
>>8014083
+ if you detransitioned once you're probably gonna go back again unless something significant changed


>>8014102
If you're already on T I don't see the reason to? There are no interactions between the drugs that I know of and I've seen schizophrenic trannies who are both on hormones and antipsychotics

>thinking about adoption
>hear all kids in the system in this country are damaged, usually emotionally and often physically
>only hear about overseas adoption from asia and I'd prefer a child no one would question being mine
Am I a bad person?

>>8014116
Go full damage and get an African child soldier

>>8014072
Have you been seeing a therapist who could possibly help you out with all of this?
I'd advise it. Your situation does indeed sound confusing.
>>8014049
Clint isn't exactly known for having big pretty Bambi eyes though, is he? YMMV with squinting. Take tiny green man Yoda for instance.
>>8013994
You're always going to have the same eyes, but your eyebrows will get thicker once you're on T, and if everything else passes about you I can't see people clocking you based solely on your eyes.
Never done it myself, but trans guys have used makeup before to make their faces contrast less. Female faces tend to have a bit more "smoky" look around the eyes.
You'd probably do best to just learn to live with it though, honestly.

>>8014072

Damn, son! You should probably talk to a counsellor of some kind, if you're not already. Help you figure this shit out.

I mean, to me, it sounds like you're trans but just have trouble finding where you stand in terms of gender roles. It sounds like you enjoy the masculinisation of your body but are just insecure about living up to how a man is 'supposed to' behave.
People who aren't actually trans but transition for other reasons often find themselves distressed by their masculinisation, and only see it as a means to an end to fulfil some other issue that's not being addressed (eg gender-nonconforming women who struggle with external judgement, victims of sexual abuse attempting to feel safe, etc).

Needing to take testosterone doesn't make you a fake man anymore than a man with naturally low-T is a fake man because he also needs injections. Postmenopausal women often take estrogen to ease symptoms, that doesn't make them less woman.
Being a girly person doesn't make you less of a man either, look at almost any famous gay guy for examples. There's a difference between wanting to be girly and wanting to be female. There's a difference between wanting the social perks of being a woman and wanting your body to be female.

I'm not saying you're definitely trans though, I'm just trying to illustrate factors that might help point you one way or the other.

And I say this as someone who's sceptical of the whole thing, but maybe you're just nonbinary, and will be better of finding a happy medium between male and female if you can't seem to pick one or the other.

What happened when you detransitioned the first time? What made you REtransition? Surely some lesson can be gleaned from that.
As far as embarrassment, honestly, you've already kinda set the tone. As long as you're medically safe, I don't see how anyone's gonna judge you for changing genders four times if they handled the first three. Everyone needs a quirk.

>>8014116
All adopted kids are kinda damaged no matter what country, they're in the system for a reason

>Am I a bad person?
No but I say if you're not ready to have a kid that's mentally ill or disabled you shouldn't have children at all
What are you gonna do if you have a kid and it's all fucked up? You can't really protect yourself from it and once you get a kid you're kinda stuck with it for life, you can theoretically give it up for adoption but a) social stigma b) you're probably gonna get too attached anyway

>>8014060
You can go pretty far with recomposing your body in terms of fat and muscle. Dressing masc and jutting your jaw will also helps.

>>8014116
>>hear all kids in the system in this country are damaged, usually emotionally and often physically
It depends how old they are. That's why pristine teen-mom babies are in such prohibitively high demand, you get to scoop them up before the system molests them.

But honestly, even with biological children it's a roll of the dice whether they'll be fucked up or not. You're not a bad person for wanting a healthy, happy kid (it's all any parent hopes for, really), but you're probably an idealistic one.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12638373

Curious about your answers, /ftmg/

>>8014144

I voted no because it's closest to how I feel, but I'm cautiously open to the concept, I just don't think it's anywhere near as common or simple as kids on Tumblr and Youtube present it as.

Like, there are different ways of experiencing dysphoria.
Some people are able to repress their whole lives, some people insist on living as their gender identity from absurdly young ages and never waver. Some people need a full transition to be comfortable, some only need HRT. Some are incapable of having sex as their natal-sex, some are fine with it. Are these differences evidence of people falling along a spectrum of gender identity, or is it just variation in how different levels/focuses of dysphoria manifest in different personalities?

If there's all that variation in people who simply identify as ftm/mtf, then what the heck is nonbinary even supposed to be? How is a nonbinary person not just a trans person who doesn't need to transition all the way and/or doesn't conform to gender expectations?

How do you strike up a conversation wirh people after lectures?

>>8014143
>>8014137
It's not the dice-roll problems or what the system does that I have a problem with, it's the problems that are a result of shitty family life before. I have a family friend who fosters kids and all three she's taken in have had problems. Two have been fucked up by their mother's substance abuse and another's parents were somehow shit so he'll never interact with society properly. It's fucked up, man, you can't shake that shit off.

>tfw no dominant trans bf

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>>8014131
>gender-nonconforming women who struggle with external judgement
Maybe that's it? I've always hated that no matter what, women generally aren't taken seriously.

When I detransitioned I did it because my mom was freaking out about me being trans. I detransitioned because I was more comfortable "being a guy".

>>8014083
I tried being a masculine girl. Should I try being open about being trans?

>>8014123
I was seeing a therapist that specializes in transgender issues. But he seemed more about encouraging trans behavior instead of determining if I'm really trans or not. He also stopped contacting me. I'm looking for another therapist.

>>8014131
>Being a girly person doesn't make you less of a man either, look at almost any famous gay guy for examples. There's a difference between wanting to be girly and wanting to be female
Not him but there's a pretty big difference between being a girly cis man and an ftm
You might still see yourself as male but other people won't take you as seriously (though passing affects this a lot)

>>8014168
>>Are these differences evidence of people falling along a spectrum of gender identity, or is it just variation in how different levels/focuses of dysphoria manifest in different personalities?
I see myself as NB myself but that's kinda how I feel basically
Gender might or might not be a spectrum but gender dysphoria definitely is

>How is a nonbinary person not just a trans person who doesn't need to transition all the way and/or doesn't conform to gender expectations?
Well I think there's a pretty big difference between not needing to and not wanting to
Like imagine these cases
>ftm would want a real penis but feels indifferent about a vag
>ftm feels indifferent about genitals either way
>ftm enjoys his vagina and prefers it to a penis
Either way you get someone who wants top surgery and T but no bottom surgery yet they feel like completely different cases
(on the side note it kinda ties in with what I replied to the other post - a lot of people will think "well the last one is just female" but if they learn i'm basing it on a real person that's been on T for 10 years and is basically a gay bear they're gonna see him more valid even it doesn't fully convince them he's a real tranny)

Same goes for sense of identity, there are people who have gender dysphoria yet don't feel like anything and people who strongly feel they don't belong in either category kinda like classic TS can on some level be convinced they're female even when all the evidence points to the contrary

>>8014168
I feel somewhat similarly to you about it, honestly. But I do think the young trans communities over on youtube and tumblr are delusional - especially when they talk about there being literally infinite numbers and variations of gender(s) beyond male and female. That crowd have an ideological bubble around them and refuse to acknowledge the biological reality of male and female. Apparently, to them, biological sex doesn't real.
Obviously I can't get behind that notion. I can understand how someone, especially a transitioning person could feel like they were between male and female/not completely male or female especially if they haven't completed transition, or are just beginning. But I think in a lot of ways that's just part and package of the trans experience - not fitting in on a gendered level - and doesn't need to have a special name for people who still find themselves in an in-between state.

But I also think there's many many people adopting the label of non-binary and trans who just do it since it's a fashionable trend now in lefty-feminist-circles. There are many who don't even experience dysphoria, which is a symptom of actually being transgender.

>>8014213
>Maybe that's it?
>I tried being a masculine girl.
You already tried, do you really think that's it?

>Should I try being open about being trans?
>When I detransitioned I did it because my mom was freaking out about me being trans.
>It's embarrassing and confusing to everybody.
>Fake as in needing shots and a different name to be male.
>I was more comfortable once I passed.
>having to worry about passing
>I miss doing girly things and being cute
To me, all this seems to add up as a gender-nonconforming trans man (as opposed to cis woman) who is overly concerned with the perception and convenience of others, and insecure about his right to live as a man while conforming to some female gender expectations.

What it comes down to for me is that you said transition made you feel more comfortable with yourself, and that you detransitioned to please other people.
If no one else was a factor, what would you prefer?

Or look at it another way; regardless of whatever's going on that's causing this confusion, at the end of the day there are perks and drawbacks to both male and female social roles, and there are perks and drawbacks to transition and nontransition.
eg, What feels better, being comfortable or having your mother not freaking out? Will she really freak out forever? Will detransition make her freak out less now that the cat's out of the bag?
What feels better, the comfort that comes with living as a man, or the freedom to do girly shit that's not as easily afforded to men in our society? Can you find the confidence to do girly things anyway?
What feels worse, the dysphoria of nontransition, or the legal/medical/social hassle of transition?

At some point, you might just have to decide where your priorities are and pick that one. Maybe you'd transition on the proverbial desert island, but we don't live on desert islands.
Or hell, maybe you can fly back and fourth for the rest of your life like a dual-citizenship drag queen, I'm not a doctor. You do you.

>>8014325
>Not him but there's a pretty big difference between being a girly cis man and an ftm
>You might still see yourself as male but other people won't take you as seriously (though passing affects this a lot)
That's an external difference though. Obviously a girly trans man will have a tougher time passing, but that doesn't mean their girlyness means they're not trans and/or can't live as a man. It just depends on the amount of clocking and bullshit someone's willing to put up with (which isn't too different from regular cis men who push down their girly traits because they don't want to be called fags all their life).

>>8014325
>>8014353
Nayrt, but I don't think one has to exclude the other. I IDd as NB for many years, partly because I was uncomfortable with calling myself a trans man (I was a teenager and (understandably) absolutely terrified of the idea of something as life-changing as hormones or surgery), partly because there was a lot about femininity and being a woman I loved. I function socially as male, but my feelings about gender are still complex. I think I ID more as a GNC/queer man these days, but the NB term was important for me at the time and I think it helped me a lot.

>>8011262
shes already been with men before

>>8014411
>dating an impure strumpet
Shiggy diggy

>>8007993
There are actually a few cisgirls on these threads. Am one myself, anon

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>>8014483

>>8014353
>It just depends on the amount of clocking and bullshit someone's willing to put up with
But different people have different amounts of bullshit they can put up with even if they're willing
>(which isn't too different from regular cis men who push down their girly traits because they don't want to be called fags all their life).
It's different in quantity is what I'm saying
Cis men get much less bullshit (while still getting a ton)

It's not that I'm claiming that if you act feminine you are female just that actually living as a feminine man is hard/not doable for everyone

>>8014400
>Nayrt, but I don't think one has to exclude the other.
But what are you talking about?
Being trans while being NB?
Don't really get how exactly your post related to the ones you quoted

So, i'm not FtM but i have a friend who is transitioning... and uh, they are reallllly overcompensating. It's weird because none of the guys in our mutal social group is particuarly maculine so they have virtually nothing to compensate for.

Evening lads, does any of you take vitamin D supps?

>>8015107
Is he gay?

>>8015221
no but I do take c and b12

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>>8014342
>what feels worse, the dysphoria of not transitioning, or...?

I feel dysphoric either way. But the legal/social/financial stuff feels just as stressful. Sorry for the brief response. I feel like I'm in shock.

I miss having long pretty hair and doing my nails. Yes I can do that as a guy. But I don't want to be a weird non-binary androgynous person. I dont know why.

>>8015304
>I feel dysphoric either way.
What are the differences between the dysphorias?

>>8014483
Cistits or gtfo.

Optionally, pick up one of these guys having a manly cry about tfw no gf.

>>8015221
Is this a joke about lacking in the D department.

>tfw skelly with pear-shaped bone structure
I want to fucking die.
The only thing I have going for me is a semi-deep autist voice which barely matters when T will change it anyway.

>>8015387
It really varies on the day. Some days I want to be the old female me. No stress or pressure about transitioning. Having pretty hair and make-up. Having a cute voice.

Some days I want to have nice facial hair. I get taken much more serious as a guy. I feel much more outgoing and somehow less awkward. I usually hate my boobs, but I used to bind them as a girl, anyway. I'm indifferent about having a vagina because I don't use it anyway.

Recently I've thought about goung to the thrift store and buying a bra and clothes I used to wear. I know I don't have to be girly, but no matter which gender I present as, I like looking nice. But I'm wondering how I'll feel wearing that stuff again (in private).

>>8015578
Why do you think autists have a deeper voice? I have a (legit) autistic friend and she can't tone her voice down, screeches like a banshee with a glass-breaking pitch. Oftentimes autists can't really control their voices, I remember the low functioning ones at my school and it was like being around sirens going nuts when some had their daily shit fit

>>8015225
They say they are.... yaoisexual. I know. I know.

>>8015578
My bone structure is pear-shaped too. It sucks.

>>8015864
That certainly answers the question!

>>8015806
Should've clarified when I said autist, I meant monotone and kind of mumbly

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Do you have a life goal? What is it?
Hard mode, no trans stuff.

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>>8015990
>Hard mode, no trans stuff.
more like easy mode

make it big in a band and live stealth for the rest of my life

>>8016040
I miss being 12

>>8016043
whats wrong with wanting to be in a band as a life goal? you got something against music or what?

>>8015107
i did that when i was 16 and lost all my friends over it. i would constantly mock their lack of masculinity and put them down for not having a deep voice, or having 'girly' blonde hair

really embarrassing.. it'll pass

>>8016052
>music
>black metal

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>>8016040
>make it big in a band
>black metal

>>8016076
>>8016079
haha nicely meme'd my dudes

what you got against black metal?
I wasn't thinking of forming a black metal band anyways, just the first band related gif I had

>inb4 damage control

>>8016094
It's like going pollock in the artworld. When having no talent, overcompensate with gimmicky garbage :)

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>>8016094
black metal bands are not supposed to be big they're supposed to be underground pleb

>>8016131
>I wasn't thinking of forming a black metal band anyways, just the first band related gif I had

>>8016130
I actually really enjoy listening to black metal though, not to the point where it's the only genre I listen to. black metal isn't talentless if you actually listened to it for more than 5 seconds lad.

>>8016154
This is how you show your age, kiddo

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>>8016158
wasn't necessarily a secret in the first place anyways.
are you having a bad day? whats your reasoning for trying to shit on someones dreams and life goals?

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>>8016154
atmospheric/folk bm is the best on hot summer nights desu

i can't wait for summer

>>8016181
Not that dude but man if you're gonna roll with the big dogs at least try to play the part, the sites 18+ for a reason

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>>8016199
>be on here for 3+ years
>only today out of all this time does someone question my age
>even after a fucking vocaroo telling you guys my literal age

haha what

>>8016218
how old are you?

>>8016237
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1FDeQ7RhoLx

>>8016251
REPORTED

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>>8016263
"no"

>>8016294
>terrible twos

>>8016294
too late senpai

>>8015107
They'll crash and burn and become NB snowflakegender TERF in a few years.

>>8014192
>tfw no qt switch gf

>>8014483
So why are you here? Pure curiosity, have a close friend/bf who's transitioning, etc?

>>8016648
At least one of the cis girls here is a stalker

>>8014169
>after lectures
Talk about the thing you just heard? Ask their opinion of it?

>>8015990
Publish a comic
Be recognized as part of a community I guess

I've had a cold since I started my T shots. Not even memeing.

>>8016192
Thanks for putting the band name in the image title. I never got the thing where you make your logo utterly unreadable, but I'm liking this album.

>>8016676
Creepy.
Are these the famed transman-chasers from Tumblr?

>>8016797
How long has it been?

>>8017494
Two months.

>>8017507
have you consulted a doctor or your endo?

>>8016199
I find it funny when women attempt to type like men lol

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>>8018551
what does a lady even type like?
what do "troo-men" type like?
>y-you too sweety uwu :3

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>>8018551

I impulse bought half a head of a cabbage for like half a euro, wtf do I do with it? Vegans, help?

>>8019013
>you need to be vegan to eat cabbage
Nigga that shits delicious. Just boiled with a little butter, salt and pepper, mwah!
Don't eat it all at once though or you'll fart yourself to the moon. It's a side dish.

I'm not an adventurous eater though. But if half a head of cabbage is your idea of an impulse buy, maybe you're not either.

>>8015990
Buy a house/other living arrangement. Find an asexual wife and have her bear "my" children and cook for me. Raise little no-nonsense shitlords. Essentially the same as if I hadn't been trans. (I'm not holding my breath though, I think expecting near-celibacy of a woman is a bit selfish, unless she really is asexual and/or they really aren't all slutty these days. People got around it somehow way back when, so it's gotta be possible, but these days? I just don't know. I just can't imagine ever being comfortable enough with sex.)

On the other hand, there's always making content and living with spiders and other weird pets if that shit doesn't work out. My goals aren't really that big. I want company and a legacy.

>>8016753
But they mingle in groups

>>8019109
Vegans have delicious veg-only reciepes, which are usually simplistic and easy to make.

I'm not really opposed to reaching outside of my comfort zone, I just tend to plan my meals very carefully most of the time for economic reasons. I throw barely anything away and like it that way.

>>8020292
>I throw barely anything away and like it that way.
Well if you find yourself stuck with a bunch of cabbage that's about to go off that you don't know what to do with, maybe try your hand at sauerkraut. I've never made it, but it's made by fermenting cabbage, plenty of guides online.

>>8020516
Sauerkraut has a bad rep but I had that shit on a hotdog while up a mountain pass and it was awesome.

Hey FtMg, its my first time posting here so sorry if I'm off topic. I wanted to know if any of yall could help explain to me some of my experiences with dating FtM people in the past. While I realize that yall aren't all the same, my past three boy friends acted really... bitchy-ish.
So I'm m/bi-scum, and pretty much introverted feminine type personality. I always liked the look of FtM people since often they were either androgynous or super muscly. However, with my last 3 partners they always seemed to have this weird expectation for me to behave towards them like they were the guy in the relationship, I.e be submissive in bed and in social displays. However, when it came to actual action like who's hips are gonna do most of the work, or who's driving to who, or who plans dates, it's always left up to me and they start acting like girls.

Side note* when I say "like girls" or "like guys" I mean as far as my own personal experience. Cis girls typically behave in certain ways in my relationships, as do cis guys, but FtM guys often seem to expect all the cool parts of being the guy while shrinking away from the more annoying parts.

I have a date this weekend with a FtM guy who is super cute, but idk if I want to keep trying with the group. I just want a guy who can man up when it's expected of him, but I worry that most Ftm guys aren't willing to do that.

>>8020849
Where are you finding all these dudes?

>>8020849
maybe they just haven't matured into full manhood yet?

getting second puberty in adulthood can mean you have to do all the appearance and posturing but you don't necessarily get the time and experience other guys do to actually back it up

>>8020860
either in college, Tinder, or though mutual friends

>>8020892
That might be it, but that might mean I should be avoiding ftms who are new into their transition which would be all of them for my age bracket.

>>8020849
I'm probably going to get bashed for saying this but I feel like a lot of ftms do act like women in that aspect, just like you say. And bitchy in general, more so than cis dudes. I mean obviously there's going to be exceptions but from what I've seen personally it seems like there's at the very least a lot of ftms who are that way.

>>8020849
How lucky/unlucky are you? I've never even met one FtM and you date three in a row and have another date lined up too!
Anyway, if I were you I'd see how your date goes this weekend and take it from there. Not surprising to me that they act somewhat like women since from the sounds of it they haven't been presenting as dudes for very long.
How many of them started HRT out of interest?