Trans Help General #138

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Pre-Hrt, I'm scared that I won't pass afterwards.

>>7988718
You'll end up just fine if you style your hair correctly.

>>7988718
your shoulders look broad but you got good lips.
Also no chest hair but shave your armpits ffs

>>7988718
whoa i don't see any scarring at all. how?

I came out to my mom as ftm and she keeps mis gendering me which is fine because I'm not on hormones or anything yet. But she also expressed that she feels I'm being ungrateful with the body she gave me. What do

>>7988819
Also I told her I want to be a more feminine male to which she told me that in that case there's no need for me to transition at all. I still hate my tits and want a dick so I feel like she doesn't understand the whole trans thing

>>7988977
Lmao this is the ultimate evolution of the "would I pass" pics with fucking nothing visible

half this picture is tubes of fucking colgate so sure you pass as toothpaste there bud

>>7988819
Why should you be "grateful" for the body random chance gave you? Would she have the same attitude if you'd inherited some medical condition?

>>7989002
i think your just jealous

>>7989049
yeah im auto toothpaste phillic ATP

>>7989021
Yeah actually. I have a few doffered medical problems and she relishes in the fact I inherited them from her. I had to get correctime repo surgery once and had her in the room while the gym talked about what she was doing. Gyno told me I might be a herm (something that made me begin questioning what I'd like to be if given the chance to be either) and before I could ask the doc about it, my mother starts going off about how my disorder is an inherited disorder from her family and she knew it all along. (She didn't)

She's a really selfish and self centered person and while I recognize that, she still makes me feel like shit

>>7989062
i'll take a better one in a bit

>>7989079
>and she relishes in the fact I inherited them from her.
What the fuck?

This is somebody you need to cut ties with, or if you can't, at least cut dependency on her.

Being misgendered is the least of your concerns. Do not let her have ANY involvement in your decision to transition and if you do, in your transition either.

>>7988718
Smaller glasses a pixie cut or something longer. Fuckme you even have pretty great hips jump on it and be a girl. /jealous/

>>7988819
Tell her that's bullshit and she knows it. She wouldn't say that if you had Crohn's disease or something. It's her way of expressing her maladjustment. Anyway fuck off she acts like she own you her body? No I'm me and I have my own body and I need to feel better in it what a stupid fucking argument.

>>7988977
Don't whore yourself out faggot go ask /soc/ this is a blue board put some clothes on and dont fucking pose for your grindr profile when you take the next one.

>>7989049
I think you're an attention whore.

>>7989441
>>7989447
>ugly never will pass trannies getting salty

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>>7989418
*Confidence skyrockets*

>>7990505
I think you pass already if you put on a bit of makeup and stuff and a skirt or something.

Im not just saying this its 4 real

I'm 18, have been into HRT since Valentine's Day exactly (which is kind of ironic,but thats other topic). The thing is I'm not sure if this is working, the only things I have noticed is I'm growing tits and the libido / erection issues, besides of the mood changes. Is this supposed to be like this? I dont expect to magically become a girl in 2 weeks,but you know...

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>>7985923
Pre op:
>4 mg/daily estradiol sublingually
>5 mg finasteride
>200 mg spiro
Literally no acne, crystal clear and radiant skin. Breast growth, etc. I felt and looked great.

Post op:
>4 mg/daily estradiol sublingually
>stopped finasteride
>stopped spiro
Things have become worse and worse. Breast growth and feminization stopped. Hot flashes all day and night. Acne, tired, can't concentrate, stressed, losing hair, dry hair, cracking finger nails, etc.

I had surgery with Dr McGinn and her and her office haven't offered any advice or help (took my money and ran type). Visited four local endocrinologists, my PCP, two OBGYNs, and they all admittedly don't know what to do.

>>7991686
Just keep taking spiro? Lol

>>7991686
>I had surgery with Dr McGinn and her and her office haven't offered any advice or help (took my money and ran type).
How can they get away with that? Although just doing your surgery doesn't mean they know anything about your HRT.

>>7988819
I'd give advice but no one fucking listens on 4chan

>>7988718
you just look like some nerd

should you take progynova either by swallowing or under the tongue?

>>7991801
Swallow,unless it specifically says you have to consume it under your tongue,you shoudn't do it, as it provokes such a high estrogen peaks,it leads to various secondary effects, and because of those peaks,when they "come down", you just have not enough E, leaving you with a shit ton of it during an hour or so, and not enough of it during the rest of the day

>>7991825
do you think it actually makes a huge difference in the starting stages?

>>7991847
The starting stages are probably the most important ones, so I would say yes, just swallow it, and if you have low E levels, just rise the dose, but dont take it under the tongue, its just not useful, again, unless your pills say you have to.

I started not too long ago,like 2 months, but its already visible one of the boobs is bigger than the other,is that normal?

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>>7991710
Finasteride alone caused me to have peripheral edema (swelling of the legs). Spironolactone, as a diuretic, caused me to pee that fluid out. Post op I should have no reason to need to take either medication. I've had levels that confirm both testosterone and dihydrotestosterone are lower than CIS female levels - yet still these symptoms continue.

>>7991734
Technically Dr McGinn does act as an HRT provider for patients, too.

I've asked them multiple times and this is what they've told me. I first explained my symptoms.
>Ask your endocrinologist/PCP/OBGYN
I said I don't have one
>Find one
I asked if they've heard of this from any of their other SRS patients
>Ask your endocrinologist/PCP/OBGYN

They're a joke, literally. I paid $20,000.00 USD out of pocket for a brand new sex organ. When I asked them how to lubricate my new vagina they said, "experiment."

When I called their emergency line after losing half a cup of blood after moving up to the next dilator Dr McGinn herself said, "that's normal."

Almost any other question I asked, whether surgically related, hormonally, generally, anything, the answers were, "find out what works", "follow up with your PCP." I feel so sorry for people putting their health at risk with them like I have.

>>7991875
There needs to be a review system so this sort of thing is made public and people know ahead of time that their surgeon's practice is like. That is entirely unacceptable.

For your HRT and surgery issues you should definitely find someone else to give you medical help, ASAP.

>>7991924
I should probably publish my experience at some point but my health is garnering all my attention.

Oddly enough, I did read some obscure forum post of someone claiming to have had SRS with Dr McGinn and then having debilitating pain from arousal post op due to erectile tissue being left over. I figured that wouldn't happen to me, but sure enough, while it's not excruciating pain, I do get a pretty uncomfortable sensation when aroused, likely due to erectile tissue that was left over.

>>7991991
Have you had any other health issues or problems with your SRS?

Someone else getting the same problem shows it's actual incompetence, not just bad patient care afterwards, and a repeat problem with her work.

>>7991864
thanks for the advice

>>7992016
Besides the potentially hormonally related problems, yes.

Huge problems with granulation tissue - still dealing with them years post op. I've gone through four separate granulation tissue removal procedures in a Gynecologist's office (two different gynecologists so it's not related to them), including a removal at Dr McGinn's office by one of her PAs, of which they fucked up and caused further complication.

Removing granulation tissue is basically a two step process. You apply silver nitrate, basically like salicylic acid as a facial exfoliant, wait for it to dissolve a bit, then remove the excess tissue with pliers. It stings.

Dr McGinn's office only used silver nitrate and let me go, effectively fusing two sides of my vagina shut. I've been working on basically ripping it back open through dilation to this day, and that was a year+ ago.

Terrible scarring due to sutures not being placed correctly, etc. It goes on and on.

When I met her in the hospital I got a gut feeling that she didn't care about me as a patient (as a person doesn't matter, I'm not self serving and doctors have thousands of patients). I should've walked away then and gone to Montreal or Arizona.

>>7992115
>Dr McGinn's office only used silver nitrate and let me go,
Why didn't her PA complete the procedure? That's not just doing treatment badly, that's failing to do the treatment.

>When I met her in the hospital I got a gut feeling that she didn't care about me as a patient
How did you get the feeling?

>>7992115
When I read things like this I just get frightened of SRS, no matter how much I hate my junk, no matter how much I want it,the only one I've heard of doing the best job is Suporn, and even in that case you always hear of a disaster.

>>7992115
Bowers and McGinn are butchers, this is known. You really should have gone to Brassard or Meltzer like you said, or Suporn.

>>7992159
What disasters have you heard about Suporn?

>>7992146
I don't think it's that they didn't complete the procedure they just are either sloppy, don't care, uneducated, or all of the above.

I actually work in and study medicine, and I'm really confident that she's mainly interested in money. She's a lack luster and under qualified surgeon who's built upon being trans herself and uses that as a coy to draw customers in to seep money from that otherwise don't know any better but buy into her persona. She's also involved in personal legal battles, so where there's smoke there's fire.

>>7992159
Do your research before hand and make sure you're in the right frame of mind before hand. And please at least for me save your sperm. I didn't and I think about ending my life every night because of not being able to ever have my own children in this life time.

>>7992182
It's NOW known. Although recent, /lgbt/ and most of the modern trans sources were not around.

>>7992205
Care, NSFW, this is the gallery with Suporn-made vags, there is one near to the end where a girl lost her clit to necrosis.
https://imgur.com/a/uyukj

>>7992115
>I've been working on basically ripping it back open through dilation to this day, and that was a year+ ago.
Can't you get it treated properly by someone else?

>It goes on and on.
What else?

How bad is the suture scarring?

>>7992222
>Do your research before hand and make sure you're in the right frame of mind before hand. And please at least for me save your sperm. I didn't and I think about ending my life every night because of not being able to ever have my own children in this life time.

Well, Im completely sure I want it, about the children thing, I just lost the chance when I had it,my endo, who also manages that sperm thing, told me that once I start cypro its hightly improbable that my sperm is fertile, but anyway, I just wouldnt have children.

If I'm trans MtF and I like chicks, does that make me a lesbian or straight?

Posted this in the wrong thread, pls help

People that have experienced hip growth, what does it feel like and where do you feel that? When did you start to feel it?

My hips have been sore all day and I don't know whether to be really excited or really worried.

>>7992436
lesbian

>>7992436
Neither, it makes you AGP.

>>7992456
What is AGP?

>>7992494
A sexual orientation focused on yourself as a girl.

>>7992506
Oh. Well that sounds about right.

>>7992494
Pseudoscience.

>>7992520
People will tell you your knowledge of yourself is wrong because they don't want you to know yourself.

>>7988824
See
>>7989079
I was kinda tired when I wrote it, hence spelling errors.
Tl;Dr She likes that I'm fucked up because of her

>>7991870
yeah, happens in cis girls too

I want to try hormones but I'm too scared and will most likely end up not doing it and trying to ignore it more and possibly killing myself


i wish there was another way

>>7995203
take them faggot

>>7991091
>nothing happened in 6 weeks probably doesnt work lol
your normal puberty took years, why do you think this is any faster

>>7997828
I don't know,I perfectly knew this would be slow, and so, but it just feels so bad to think it might not work, that I will probably end up as a hon no matter how early I started, I bet you know that feel too.

>>7997934
i have a hon body alright, but i pass and live full time so im not a hon in that regard
i just have twinkhonbod

diy'er here living with relatives that wouldnt be thrilled about this. anybody with a similar situation have any recommendations for hiding pills?

>>7998084
I hide them inside of a little box (has the size of a music box) and every day, when I feel its safe, I just take out the pills I need for the next day and place them somewhere (no need to hide too much, they are so small no one would notice)

>>7998084
hollowed out book, in your bed post (if its detachable), somewhere high and hidden.

>>7997967
I hope I end up at least being able to go out and not feel like I'm a man in a dress

Does distance running build musle?
I want to get back into it but I'm scared of gaining any muscle whatsoever.

>>7998413
Moving any part of the body until it gets tired builds muscle

Repost but this feels like a more appropriate place to put it.

>Liked girl stuff as a kid but was ridiculed for it and stopped showing interest.
>Go through edgy nu-metal phase at beginning of high school.
>After that exclusively listen to female artists, but it's cool because I just really like pretty girls.
>Play 5000 or so hours of WoW throughout highschool, exclusively female characters. Same with other games.
>Paint my nails sometimes.
>Often think indirectly about being a girl.
>But it's cool, I just really like pretty girls so that's not weird, right?
>Fast forward to 24 after a decade of crippling depression, finally actually think "maybe I'm trans"
>More depressed than ever for the last few months, crying a lot, experimenting with girl stuff feels really nice but adds to the depression because in no position to even entertain the idea of transitioning.
>Sometimes don't think about it for a few days before it coming back stronger than before.

sorry for blog but i have no support system and it's been real shit lately.

>>7998419
well yeah but will it make me jacked like a dude?

>>7998570
Are you on HRT?

>>7998570
A "jacked like a dude" lower body is a good thing for MtF's

>>7998601
what did she mean by this?

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>>7998197
you know thats a great idea. i can use an extra ultra pro deck box that i keep my mtg cards in. they'd never even think to look there
>>7998200
we're bookish people, so for me at least this would be as bad as sticking them in the bathroom. currently reading "a simple plan by scott smith" half way through and i like it so far

>>7998499
why arent you transitioning

>>7998735
bigger hips probably

I have a financial caretaker and she gives me 50 euros a week. Also she can see whats going on with my bank account, how the fuck do I order hormones?

>>7997009
They probably won't help and someone will find out and know I'm a huge faggot.

>>7998499
Yo that's pretty similar to how it happened for me.
>turning 25 next month
>on a 6-8 month waitlist to see a gender therapist
take the first steps ASAP, the wait is killing me but knowing I'm at least trying to move forward with it has made things easier.
I totally get you about doing girl stuff making you feel worse, though. I regularly have to spend time in the women's clothing department at work and thinking about what in there I'd want to wear and how it'd look on me usually makes me want to kill myself.

>>8001582
you don't know that and who cares what people think about you.

Hrt two weeks. I will live with transphobic family who doesn't know about my problem for more than a year from now. I take diy hrt but I'm afraid that I will have visible breasts soon. I've already have enlarged nipples. Just a dead fucking end. Don't know what to do. Can't wait this year and then not pass because of ugly testosterone

>>8003434
They wont even notice unless you actually start developing breast tissue,and that wont happen until at least 1/2 months,and even then, most dont notice cause either they think you are getting fat, either they dont pay attention to that things.

>>8003434
But I have to stay for 14 months. I've heard people are getting caught on the 4 month or even 1,5. I can't hide it for so long. And even after these months nothing will really change. I will apply to university but with breasts. Also will be examined for army or smth. Just many half naked guys which I know in one room. They will fucking notice it. Also physicians will see it. I can say it's gyno but I''m not sure it will work. So, I can really do nothing with my transition living there. And because I'm not very good at doing all the study tasks I will have a problem with education. It will be hard to manage with. Then four years I will be in my city. Or not. Maybe I just can move to another country but it's nearly impossible. So I should stop my hrt. But once I tried transitioning I just can't live with my assigned gender. Depression, suicidal thoughts, full lack of motivation. It will lead me to the bottom of my life. Meh

>>7992494
A Girl with a Penis

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>>7985923
So I'm post op SRS - what would happen if I got an IUD placed in there?

>>7998499
literally me, except I am 20, on HRT and still having doubts that I wish would fucking disappear because I at least want the constant reassurance

>>8005065
nobody knows, ask your gynecologist

How does one shave their legs? I'm going to be going on HRT soon and I figure I should probably start acting my gender

>>8005065
Why the HELL would you do that?

>>8005705
If you really want to be methodical about it, follow what this anon said >>8001873 . Or epilate, that works too.

>>8005705
>implying this is rocket science
take a razor
shave against the groin
apply lotion afterwards
congrats you're done

>>8005065
Why the hell would you ask this on 4chan and not ask an actual doctor?

>>8005065
You probably wouldn't be able to place it,as its made to fit on the fallopian tubes entrance,so I guess it would just come out?

Is it ok to go only on AA for 6 months?

be "female" consider myself agender cause I can't consider myself a woman at all but I don't want to be a man, ideal life would be a pretty androgynous twink. I'm skinny enough I don't have problems being too chesty or curvy so I can go more androgynous when I want and I don't have dysphoria abt my body other than my god damn vag, I hate it, it disgusts me, penis envy is real and I love dicks and would want nothing more to have one, but post OP dicks depress the shit out of me and I'd rather just have a cunt for my boyfriend. Idk what to think about myself or what to do but yeah.

>>8007635
yes, but it's probably not a very nice experience since you'll be fatigued and all that

>>8001528
stockpile money over time
buy credit/gift card
buy hormones
????
Profit

>>8008688
Ok, thanks

Me: >>7992436
I don't need any help I just wanted a place to brag and update. My best friend just confessed that she likes me and we're in a relationship now. I've never been so happy in my entire life.

>>8007720
You sound like a trans guy to me. A lot choose not to have bottom surgery because of the results, risk of complications, health reasons, and the amount of money it'll set them back. Many including myself would like to wait for better alternatives to meta and phallo to be developed, and although many of the photos of SRS results don't look great, it really depends on the surgeon and how far along in the healing process and how many stages of surgery have been performed. Most are pleased with SRS results once they get it.
Are you transitioning or planning to? What's your situation like at the moment?

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I started HRT 5 months ago and after the first 3 months I saw a lot of change, but for 2 months jackshit happenned. I don't want to be stuck like what I look like now forever.

>>8014451
You gotta think of it like puberty.
It takes years to reach the full effects. A cis girl doesn't realize she's growing tits and needs a training bra and then badda bing badda boom, she's a fully grown woman within a coupla months. Doesn't work like that.

>>8014504
Thanks I just did not remember any growth spurt before

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This me, do I bother trying?

>>8015170
Yeah, but you will need FFS to pass

>>8014451
Youll be crushed if you keep obsessing over the future. Accept the present, assume the worst, hope for the best.

Would it be better to have my hair cut into a feminine style and then let it grow out, or should I just deal with it looking like shit and like a guy's hair until it's like shoulder length or so? I honestly hate how it looks right now but I kinda don't want to lose a lot of length. Right now it's like just at the bottom of my ears on the sides, at the bottom of my neck in the back, and like just past my eyes in the front, but it's also a little curly in some spots so it just looks messy and pretty bad because I kind of just started from a buzz cut about 6 months ago and let it grow.

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>>8015170
Ooga booga tbqh

>>8018600
wait till shoulder length. even most women can't really handle short styles.

>>8020350
'can't really handle' how?

Doesnt look nice, not everyone looks good with a pixie cut. Some girls look very boyish when they do. Especially when you're a transwoman you don't want to enhance your male features by having a short style.

>>8020370
for a cis girl though the boyish look is hot.

>think about jobs
>most jobs that I can think of I could get into easily probably wouldn't want a tranny in them

How can someone hide their breast in the school, college? What kind of clothes are needed for it? Or is it impossible to be in the underground?

>>8020551
Open hoodies, shirts or jackets. Just wearing "baggy clothes" is a meme and at a certain size anything is obvious if you close it up

>>8015257
>>8018622
Heh, pretty much what I expected

>tfw after a year of hormones you're still not quite sure if you want to be a girl and just happen to like girls in addition to that or if you're just some pathetic straight dude with some other mental illness

>>8021178
Are you passing, being misgendered? How do you feel about the effects of HRT?

>>8021260
Nah, I'm just staying femboy mode. Trying to pass would just make me more paranoid than I already am, and I don't think I'd manage it anyway. But HRT has been pretty nice overall.

>>8020356
It's not cute on them

I'm fucking tired of being transgender. Literally, I hate myself for that. And it seems it doesn't get better with days. I don't want to hide breast, I don't want it to be sore, I don't want to eat everyday at the same time just to take fucking pills that are damaging to my overall health. I hate leaving in trans and homophobic country, I hate to wait, I can't come out to my parents, I can't see my future, I can't do anything with my weakness. It feels so good to be a bit close to your preferred gender but how muvh it does cost. Money, health, time.. life. My whole life would be ruined because of this issue. Once I tried hrt I can't stop now. I have to think how to hide from everybody everyday. How to see all these people that hate you even without knowing you're transgender. Every fucking day is a nightmare. Every next day is in the darkness and fog. Yes, today it is somehow safe to sit there with a t-shirt on. Tomorrow I will get up from the bed with breast. I will go to the place where I will try to hide it. But it's nearly impossible. If somebody see it I would be dead. Yes. But not literally. My life will be ruined. I would be homeless. What's the way? Can I avoid this darkness? Maybe I really should just kill myself. But I can't do it now. I have fucking obligations for other people who maybe love me. Just two or three. No more. I'm not needed by anyone else in this world. Just a useless creature. And even those that love me only hurt me because of the lack of knowledge. Yes, it is so. I'm just to fucking tired of this life. peace out i love you all

>>8021178
Is there anything other than your attraction to girls that's causing you to question that? The way you put it implies that you think it matters.

I think I'm a trans guy but I don't know for sure any advice?

>>8021748
well, do you want to live as a man? Do you dislike your female body?

>tfw a year of electrolysis now has your skin looking like permanent beard shadow due to discoloration that is lasting for months

>>8026099
iktf, it looks like i always have hairs on my chin but there aren't any.

>tfw not even microsoft face detector thinks you are a girl

>tfw you realized you're not transgender but boobs are already visible

>>8028162
How did it get to that point?

>>8027528
those things have incredibly flawed algorhitms.

>>8029282
Don't say that, it thinks i'm a girl..

>>8031290
You might as well start hrt

>>8005705
I just use nair hair removal lotion and a razor. Damn fine results. Apply lotion afterwards.

Fuck all these multi-step processes. =/

>>8031303
I'm basically on HRT as it is, but I'll most likely "transition" to proper HRT in the future. No real need to do it right now when I'm getting decent results from my current routine. Testosterone didn't hit me too hard. Probably because of the fat. lol

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>>8015170
you look like her pre-hrt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDEkG8PLye4

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>>8031347
Goddamn, I can't wait until the facial fat redistribution kicks in for me. I wasn't super masculine looking to begin with, but still. Knocking on wood that I likely won't need FFS.

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>>8031347
>you look like her pre-hrt

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>>8031347
Your style icon is ... Maureen McCormick

I don't know what to do lads

I've never been particularly happy with my body but it's never been severe enough for me to consider it dysphoria or bring it up with a therapist, it's mostly just my hips are huge and I've wanted every since middle school to have an androgynous body but it's physically impossible for me.

But more than that, I despise my vagina, I can't stand it at all. I hate looking at it and remembering I have it and even having sex with it. I want a dick so bad it hurts. But I'd have to transition before I could do surgery and I don't think I would ever pass because of my really curvy figure, and it's not like I hate the idea of being a girl specifically, just my reproductive parts. Though I feel like I might be happier as a boy; I've always been boyish and socialized better with boys. It's just never been an aching desire like people say it should be to transition.

I remember reading a while back about localized testosterone treatments for clit enlargement, does anyone here know anything about that? Is it bullshit or unsafe? I feel like that's the closest I'll ever get to what I want down there.

Also looking for just general advice on dealing with knowing you'll never pass I guess. Sometimes I wonder if that's the main thing holding me back from beginning a transition. Anyone else have or had similar feelings?

>>8031989
Idk. I think it's a bit weird to identify with your genitalia.

>>8031989

Even if fully transitioning doesn't seem all that necessary to you, is there any actual reason not to do it? If your bottom dysphoria is so bad, wouldn't it be an acceptable means to an end?

>>8031518
>>8031571
Spot fuckin on

>>8031989
Do you want a dick, because it's not a vagina? Would you chose to have nothing instead? Maybe both?

For socializing with boys, see what you have in common with female autists. They say the same. You might be trans, but ask more questions abour yourself before you latch on to an identity.

>>8028241
As is. I thought hrt will bring away confusion

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HRT later this month, scared as fuck about everything.

>>8034392
you post on r9k right
i knew you were a tranny all along

>>8034398
>post on /r9k/
I go there every once in a while, but don't really post, so you're thinking of someone else.

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How do I app to colleges as the gender I'm transitioning to without my parents finding out? If they do I'm fucked

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>>8034721
mwah

how do you guys deal with wageslaving to save up for hormones? I have a physical job and I'm obviously in boy mode, but I feel like I can't even perform my job if I'm thinking about my trans related issues, it's like I have to shut off that valve in my brain to get anything done. but I'm doing everything in the goal of paying for FFS and HRT. it's a catch 22.

>>8034853
Shutting it off and plowing through the day is a good strategy. I usually do that too, and it works most days so long as I don't look in the mirror at all.

>>8035027
yeah, you're right. we're gonna make it anon

>>8034853
Why does everyone suddenly need a ffs, i undertand hair transplant if you're balding, vfs and facial hair removal but most people won't need the whole thing.

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I'm 28 years old and finally going through with my transition to a woman. I measure at about 6'. My shoulders are 18 to 19 inches wide. Maybe 20 at worst.

My insurance covers breast augmentation and basically everything besides FFS and hair removal.

I'm balding in the front, but don't mind wearing a wig.

My main questions are:

Will laser hair removal hinder electrolysis efforts later on?

What FFS surgery should I get?

How do I hide my broad shoulders?

>>8037964
I know, it's frustrating as hell. =/

Work with what your body has. It's not like tht vaginoplasty is replacing your penis with a vagina. You're re-arranging a part of your body that you were born with and convinced yourself you're unsatisfied with.

Hormones will make your face beautiful enough, besides there are plenty of ciswomen with manish faces. Jesus christ. =/

>>8038186
I see your point, but some of us are tall, have broad shoulders or deep, gravely voices. The best way to compensate for that is surgery.

If they can afford it, I say go for it. It's their body. I was against it for a long time, but it's the only way I'll pass. See >>8038117 That's me.

>>8038198
Plenty of women have broad shoulders. Not everyone has a pear or hourglass shape. =/

And I GUESS maybe that vocal surgery could be necessary if you have a super deep voice, but you could still try vocal training (Which is free without lessons/coaches) for a while before settling on it, especially since the success rate of those surgeries isn't very good all in all.

Also lol @ tall not being a feminine thing when there are some ciswomen who are in the mid 6's in terms of feet. Come on now.

>>8038210
I agree, but at the same time I wouldn't go for vocal surgery, despite my deep gravely voice. I've gotten a somewhat more effeminate tone down without causing pain, but I will try vocal training. Since some tracheal shaves and vocal surgeries have the opposite effect, I'd rather chance it. My face bothers me though. It's hard for me to look in the mirror without feeling intense anxiety at this point. Unless I get really lucky with HRT, I'll go under the knife.

>Plenty of women have broad shoulders.

It's true. My biological mother had rather broad shoulders, as does one of my bio-sisters.

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>>8038223
I promise you, you will be beautiful regardless of your choice. =)

Here is a motivational picture from myself. Hang in there!

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>>8038226
I appreciate the sentiment, but passing means a lot to me.

Here's another picture without my wig. See the problems?

>>8038249
>>8038249
You can't see it, but MPB has taken a good chunk out of my forehead.

>>8038249
It's weird, but you;d be surprised how much more feminine one can look by just growing their hair out.

In your case, growing your hair out would definitely do a lot of good, I feel.

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>>8038256
I wish.

>>8038271
Hmm... well, HRT will at least prevent it from getting worse. There are plenty of women with larger foreheads, so no worries.

>>8038281
I'm using a wig instead. It's that or hair transplantation.

I figure a nose job and jaw work will do the trick.

What about everyone else?

>>8038353
Oh honey...
You've got a long road ahead of you.

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>>8031347
Don't give me false hope!

How much should an epilator cost?

>>8041814
I think I spent $35 on mine. Don't bother with battery operated, just get a corded one.

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two week hrt mark and erections down which is the greatest fucking thing ever (until boobs). anyway i was wondering if its normal to want to shove stuff up your ass after being on hrt.

>>8044090
I've shoved things up my ass since i was 14, i think it's quite normal for trannies.

Everyone seems to be so sure they're trans and so happy about growing boobs. And then I see me :( I can decide nothing.

>>8044355
Really? I used to do this as a kid but I never thought much about why

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>>8044542
you aren't the only one
i'm genuinely unsure what gender i am and the one i was certain i am is a tumblr meme

>>8044090
desu i like shoving stuff up my butt in general. being penetrated is nice and it lets me feel like a mildly kinky cis woman.

>>7985923
I'm with Kaiser Permanente in Southern California and I'm tired of jumping through hoops for them to provide me care that my family pays for. I mean, I should be able to get a tit job if I want to right? I don't think I should have to save up good girl points for it and be on hormones 2 years and blah blah I just want boobs I'm tired of psychs not a single one has helped me they are all hacks

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>be today, working as a 3rd party at my country's National Academy of Sciences
>probably the most prestigious research institute in my shitty eastern EU country
>smart people keep complementing my work
>some oldguy even asks if I have my own office here
>I am normal and everything is going to be okay
>finish work, get bored
>open /lgbt/ and bunch of other tabs about trans things at my workstation
>get distracted, do other work
>unexpected things come up, I need to leave earlier
>group of guys come into the room, and take over my desk
>leave feeling accomplished
>walking down the stairs, wearing a baggy sweatshirt because the hrt is starting to show
>stop
>remember I forgot to close the tabs
>Imdead.jpg
>walk back
>ask to get the computer back
>make up some excuse about source files
>3 guys staring at the screen
>Attempt to right-click-close all tabs from desktop bar
>everything pops up asking if I want to close all tabs
>the word TRANSGENDER in giant bold letters on top of the page
>infinite amount of time passes before I close it
>3 guys staring at the screen in silence
>deathnoteending.exe
>mumble apology and leave fast

How do I make the pain stop?

>>8044979
You actually should be on hormones for at least 2 years before getting a tit job, because otherwise your breasts are still going to grow a lot after the implant and it's going to look weird.

>>8045018
If you press Ctrl+W you can close tabs quickly

>>8045080
SOMEONE INVENT A TIME MACHINE NOW

>>8045018
could've said its one of those weird pop-ups

>>8046469
I think making any excuses would just dig the hole deeper, especially if they go out of their way to mention it later. It's best just to never bring it up again, and bury the burning shame and anxiety forever.

>>8044979
Boobs still developing after 3 years on HRT isn't just a hon myth

>>8045018

I feel you, anon.
I do kinda want to reprimand you for browsing 4chan, let alone /lgbt/, on anything but your personal computer or phone. But I'm a habitual phoneposter at work, and it didn't fucking save me.

Browsing on my phone at work once, and I got a call. I had to hand it off to a coworker, and I had no idea that when he hung up, the phone would remain unlocked and go back to the screen I'd been on before the call. Which was an /lgbt/ thread scrolled right up for those big red letters to be in plain view.
Thank god it was just a Drag Race thread and not anything more incriminating. So maybe, if he saw enough to think about it (and let's be honest, he definitely did, once he hung up he got that little 'what the fuck am I looking at' face before handing the phone back to me), it's possible he figured it's just a place to talk about the show. Or at least just figures I'm gay. I just thank fucking christ it wasn't a trans general or something.

Just push it down.

>>8050018
Yeah, definitely not doing that again, not sure what I was thinking.
Also I'm like 90% sure now that I over-exaggerated it, and that they didn't really have enough time to read anything, I just lost all sense of time in the moment.

The project got finished as of today, and it was successful, so they can eat my entire ass for all I care.

im a trans guy on HRT about 10 months in. my acne is terrible (although that might just be genetics) and ive tried a ton of shit to get it to clear out. whats the best thing i can do?
also what exercises can i do to get a nice ass?

Okay, I need advices.

I have periods of really high dysphoria where I hate myself, sometimes when I'm in front of the mirror I feel like I'm seeing someone totally different from who I am (to the point where sometimes I feel like I'm with someone else in front of my mirror you see). And whenever I look at my genitals they are so out of place, I don't know why I have those.
During those periods I'm really, really depressive and it can last weeks like that.

And then, in like 5 minutes, one day, my brain will just switch and change to a "oh no you're a normal guy stop thinking about all that stuff" mode. During those periods I feel okay with life, I don't really think about trans issues or dysphoria, I don't have any problem with my body or anything at all. An again, it can last weeks.

And then the cycle start over. Weeks of dysphoria where I almost want to kill myself, weeks of "normal" mode where I'm fine with being a guy.
Because of that I've thought of transitionning, but as soon as I would enter a "guy" period, I would drop the idea.

And so I don't really know what to do anymore... I think I have brain problems that are far from only dysphoria am I right?

>>8051302
see a therapist

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Sometime my breast hurt so much that it wake me up at night or I just can't continue working/playing game because it's like if I burned myself and it's fucking intense.

I wear a bra but with or without I have that problem, when I am at home I can take a shower so it's not as bad but I wish I could sleep normally or work properly.
I thought after 6 months on HRT it would stop or not be as worse but I still have those intense breast pain.

What can I do?

>>8051391
I have my first appointment next week. it's just that I have yet again an identity crisis. I guess.

>>8051409
you can do nothing until a growth phase stops. Massage them perhaps, it seems to calm down the boob.

I'm a single parent with full custody of my child. I've been repressing since I was 8 that I was the wrong gender and every time I broke through the repression I would never take aNY steps to actually transitioning.
I'm now at the newest point in my life where I could transition after 6 years where I didn't have a choice.
I need some encouragement to finally follow through and be my true self. The one and only thing I'm worried about is for my kid. My kid is only 2 right now and if I start hormones soon, my kid will have no memories of me being the wrong gender. Is it likely to mess my kid up?

>>8052136
I think your kid having no memories of you with the wrong gender will be better for you and your kid.

>>8052370
>assuming she'll pass

>>8052477
Honestly, I'm not really worried about passing. The only masculine features I have are broad shoulders and facial hair. Hair is easy to remove and the shoulders you just have to dress around.
I have huge hips, no Adam's apple, my face has always been more feminine shape. And even if I don't pass as much as I'd want to athe least my dysphoria and self hate from repression would be gone.

>>8052003
Well, as far as I know, breasts develop during 2 years at least... but you can think of it in a good way,when my boobs hurt, I like thinking its good because there is something happening there.

I think I need a bra cause pain when breasts touch clothes and so,but its kind of complicated since I'm still living with parents and they dont know about me taking HRT...Any tips?

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My shoulders and ribs are too wide, my hands and feet are too big, I'm too tall, I'll never ever have a functional vagina, and I'll never ever not ever get to live as a woman. Someone remind me why transition is supposed to make me want to live again. The pills, they do nothing.

>>8055621
>I'll never ever have a functional vagina

I'm about to blow a gasket, fuck this board

>>8055621
>Someone remind me why transition is supposed to make me want to live again.
It's not; only you can do that.

>>8055621
I think someone trolled you on an image board

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>>8055625
>>8055674
Did I meme? Did I get memed? Whose meme is it anyways? I didn't meme to, honest.
Seriously, what?

>>8055626
I need something to live for, anon. I don't want to live for me right now.

>>8055465
calvin klein bralette, you can get it on amazon, thank me later

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24 years old, height - 175cm (5 feet 857⁄64 inches) Pre HRT. Do I have any chance of passing or being attractive ?

>>8056368
You've got some big bones there. You'll probably end up looking like a dyke if you do pass. FFS is going to be mandatory unless you get very lucky. Odds are against you but at 24 you should know that.

>>8056085
As someone else who only wears ck bralettes I will vouch for it too

>>8056397
>>8056085
But isnt it really expensive?

>>8056403
like 35 canadabucks on amazon for me

>>8056386
>FFS is going to be mandatory
Stop shilling for your shitty surgery dude.

>>8057155
Some people need it or they end up in the uncanny valley.
Ger a job.

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How do I come out to my best friend as mtf?

We've been friends for like 10 years, since I was in middle school and I'm 22 now. We basically talk everyday, and he's like one of the only constant things in my life so I don't really want to complicate the friendship in anyway, but I've been coming out to everyone else and I don't want to hide it from anyone anymore.

To put some context on it, I moved away last year so he hasn't seen me in around 6 months, and I've been on HRT since then. We play PC games every day though, and we've both been coming here (4chan, not /lgbt/) since like 2007. He frequents /v/, /tv/, /int/ I think, and used to go to /pol/ but stopped because it went to shit. I'm only saying all this so you know that I basically have no fucking idea how he will react when I tell him. We're really close so I don't think he'd just up and cut ties, but then again I've also heard him do that typical "lol trans people are weird" thing when the topic gets brought up at random.

Do I just like, say screw it and tell him one day at random or something? Or should I ease into it? Or what? I need advise.

>>8052003
>this calms the boob

>>8057381
if you'd ease into it he would get the hint anyway so just tell him. Tell him you've got something important to tell him that's been bothering you for years.

>>8057381
>We play PC games every day
just speak to him in girl voice and when he's like what who's that chick you go all like that's me bitch im a tranny

>>7985923

Hello, I have recently found out by accident that my sister* is preparing to transition to a male. I really don't know how to deal with it. It is getting to the point I can no longer pretend I don't know what's going on. And I can't quite bring myself to accept it, I know I should but it is just so alien to me. I'm trying at this moment to prepare for the moment I refer to her* by a new name.

I’m not even sure what I’m asking of you, maybe describe to me the reaction of your loved ones when you told them.

I have never frequented this board so I don't know if you’re interested in this kind of inquiry.

>>8063909
Everyone is shocked at first but with a bit of time it become normal and you realize your brother is the same as before. He still like the same shit, still have the same opinion but he feel better in his body.

>>8064050
>>8063909
my brother said the same thing regarding my transition
>you're the same person now and like the same things, i don't know what i was worried about
just like i told them

I'm a mtf still living with my parents, I did everything solo without telling them for awhile but the temptation was too much and I told my Mom. It wasn't a "I accept this", more of a "I tolerate this"

She knows she is the only one I've told and thinks I've trapped her into being alone, I make her worry, and more selfish stuff like that but I'm too soft spoken and kind to call her out on this.

I only wanted to tell her for now but she is constantly threatening to tell my dad and says she is always close to cracking and telling him.

What's the best course of action here? My dad is conservo-christian and laughs at the whole Caitlyn Jenner thing. It's also hard finding a time when we are both home and he's also not in a bad mood from work or drinking.

>>7985923
My insurance will cover MTF top surgery. I want to take advantage of it. How do I figure out how big of a cup size they'll let me get?

>>7985923
Those of you who have taken cypro, how long did it take to kill your balls?
What was your dosage before and after this happened?
What was/is your weight?

>>8064614
Where do you live and what insurance do you have???

>>8065260
Blue Cross Blue Shield Blue Advantage HMO through Advocate Illinois Masonic.

>>8065252
My experience is probably not accurate because I was on spiro for a year before cypro, but after 5 months on 50mg Cypro my T was down to 9 ng/dl. Thats below female range and I was very happy with it. I weigh 135

Currently trying splitting the tablet to 25mg a day and seeing how my levels go from there.

>>8065288
How do you avoid gaining tremendous amounts of weight during HRT?

How can one get help from the Insurance companies to afford ffs cause I'm killing myself working 12 hour shifts back to back. After one year I only have 1k saved up. Fuck I wish I lived in Scotland this shit is unbearably horrible.

>>8065326
They rarely cover top surgery. Facial feminization surgery is best sought out overseas. The alternative is to pay someone to beat the crap out of your face and get the company to cover FFS as reconstructive surgery after major trauma.

>>8056085
What is the point of bras what do they actually do?

>>8065340
How do people afford it? I work constantly and I'm still in the red. It baffles me srs is covered when having a vagina means fuck all when you look like a dude. The madness of the world if ffs was paid for I bet there would be less Huns and more surgeons skilled at the procedure rather than several dudes that have all had major fuck ups.

>>8065305
I have a pretty fast metabolism, unless I ate large pizzas every day it wouldn't work

>>8065345
if you move around a lot, it's a lot more comfortable, instead of getting that elevator feeling in your boobs, or pain when you jump or go down stairs quickly. Also stops them from rubbing up against your clothes which gets awkward pretty quick

>>8065373
My metabolism is fast too, but I still have a slight belly despite dieting and exercise. I'm concerned I'll gain a shit ton of weight once I start HRT.

>>8065369
Loans, from what I hear.
No idea how to go about getting a loan for it, though.

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okay so like is it normal that my bladder shrunk like a lot since i started hormone replacement?

btw i'm mtf thanks hunties

>>8065729
you mean you have to pee more often?
how do you know the size of your bladder?

>>8065736
yes
and idk

>>8065744
spiro most likely

>>8065252

4 months on 50mg, 25mg from then on, lowest end of female levels
2 years, 7 months hrt.
50kg > 70kg barely eating. Guess cypro can fuck you up in the longtime (before HRT i ate mc donalds everyday and pizzas), had no weight. Now even a salad makes me gain weight

Hello, I'm 25 and about to start hrt. I was wondering if I should get a blood test before I start? And for starting what's the best AA, and estrogen?

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>>8067802
Get a blood test. Better safe than sorry.
Doctors/endos should prescribe drugs.

>>8067814
Can I just go to my doctor and ask for a blood test and a prescribtion? Or is there a certain place I need to go?

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>>8067977
Is your country/city LGBT friendly? If in ANY doubt, don't say you're trans.

>>8068020
Mn, USA lol.

Is there a combination with bica that can leave me with my bones and D in tact but also allow for the option for at least some modest breast growth?

>>8068063
senpai the twin cities are one of lgbt-friendliest places in the country to be.
I doubt you specifically have to say why you want a blood test, if you need a reason though you can say something like you suspect you have a thyroid disorder or some other hormonal thing.
I don't know what estrogen you'll be on, but if you're going legit (i.e. not self-medding) you'll get spiro for an AA.

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sup you fuckin tranny fags

I'm a boy on HRT, been that way for almost 2 years, switched from spiro to cypro after one year, and now im an emotional bitch who cries over everything and its silly and embarrassing and it makes my boyfriend worry

So im wondering, if there's anything i can add or change about my HRT regime to stop me crying over disney movies and my boyfriend going away for 1 day.

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>pic

I don't really know what to do anymore, basically at the end of my rope

>>8069016
>some family will be sad for like 2-3 years
I have no idea about your relationship with family, but parents are unlike to ever get over it.

And what makes you think transitioning is disgusting? /pol/ memes?

>>8069016
I waited until 28, but am about to start hormones. Closets are small, uncomfortable places to live, not fit for a human being. Talk to a doctor, therapist or transgendered support group. Use make-up to hide beard shadow until hair removal is an option.

You'll be alright.

>>8069044
>parents are unlike to ever get over it.
idk, I've seen family members die and their spouse are really sad for a year or three or four and then they're back to how they were before

people get over someone dying eventually, it's not like this life ruining thing

>>8069107
>support group
literally a meme filled with 50+ year old crossdressers according to every experienced posted on /lgbt/ and other places

>>8069044
>And what makes you think transitioning is disgusting? /pol/ memes?

no, it's just gross because most likely i'll end up looking like a guy with conetits/gyno and maybe softer skin

I most likely won't ever actually pass as female so it's just a band-aid sort of thing that will supposedly make me feel slightly better but not better enough to actually mean anything, just a little bit enough to take a tiny bit of the edge off of a horrible existence

>>8069129
Spouse and child are two different things, same with regular death and suicide.

>>8069144
I still don't see why the hurry with suicide.
Losing weight, HRT, hair removal, FFS, learning make up and hair styling can do a lot. And as >>8069107 said, you should definitely talk to a therapist who has experience with transgender people.

>>8069259
idk I would think at least spouse is closer or equal to children

and do people take suicides that badly?
I had a cousin i didn't even know kill themselves but they were like a 14 year old girl that OD'd on pills or something and have relatives freak out over but I don't really understand why it's a big deal.


and therapy is sort of a meme, I mean realistically what are they going to tell me / do that i haven't though of myself or seen on /lgbt/ or any other trans related website

>>8068401
just man up :^)

>>8068401
No, feminine hormones make you super emotional and sensitive. Crying over every halfbaked romcom and children's movie is actually nice, embrace it.

>>8069327
>idk I would think at least spouse is closer or equal to children
It's not.
>and do people take suicides that badly?
Yep. With suicide, there's always a feeling that it's their fault they killed their child by not doing enough to prevent it.

>>8069458
>With suicide, there's always a feeling that it's their fault they killed their child by not doing enough to prevent it.
It's kinda true...

>>8069564
not really

I can't blame anyone except myself for me killing myself.

Like, I don't even know how for/against trans stuff my parents are but it's just disgusting and shameful in the first place so I could never tell them or anyone else that.

The only thing I ever even remember is when I was like 15 or something my mom said along the lines of "kids that get molested turn out to be whores, drug addicts, or trannies"

>>8069404
I dont want to embrace it, its embarrassing, and sometimes i'll just cry in public spaces, when having a drink with my bf or something bc hes leaving soon or something, sometimes i get emotional over him doing something cute, he probably thinks im crazy as shit or emotionally scarred

Is there any hope of a decent vaginoplasty result if the person having the vaginoplasty procedure was circumcised?

>>8074283
Just go for an american surgeon, they are more used to that kind of stuff

>>8074320
Yeah, but supposedly if you've been circumcised there's no hope of having a self-lubricating vagina Also it'll look weird as the extra bits of foreskin flesh are used for aesthetic purposes.

>>8074493
You wont have a self-lubricating vag even with a foreskin, its highly improbable, it's not that bad in terms of aesthetics, as it's used on the labia minora.

>>8074570
>You wont have a self-lubricating vag even with a foreskin
Are you sure? Because there's plenty of surgeries with which you do and up with a self lubricating vagina. They are pretty expensive though.

>>8074590
I'm quite sure, and I've researched about nearly all the known surgeons,there is no way for us to lubricate, because cis women lubricate with some glans called Bartholins,that we dont have, the most similar way would be using the residual liquid that the prostate produces,but it is just not enough and it comes out of your urethra, so it just wont work.

>>8074608
Well, I heard differently.
Colon vaginoplasty does have self lubrication. Normal vaginoplasty doesn't, however some surgeons like Chettawut apparently do have a technique to cause self lubrication with a normal vaginoplasty procedure.

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What method of suicide is most effective at treating crippling dysphoria? :^) I'm realising it's too late for me to ever pass and I don't want to live like this, as an emotional wreck and burden to my family.

>>8074693
If everything keeps as bad as it is today, I'm going to try the hot bath and razor through arm thing.

>>8074682
Colon vaginoplasty is not usually done for a reason, it is ugly, doesnt work very wall in sensitivity things and will lead to digestive problems.

>>8074749
How about Chettawut's surgery? That's a normal Vaginoplasty procedure, with a few extra steps to make self-lubrication a thing.
It varies from person to person however. Some secrete a lot while others secrete very little.
I sent them an email just now asking whether the lack of a foreskin will interfere with their procedures.

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>>8074743
I know from experience I'm able to go through with slicing my wrists (done it before), too bad it's so slow somebody would definitely find me and ruin the attempt. I wanted to hang myself twice in the past month, but couldn't do it :~:

>>8074783
>Racists (KKK, BLM, Obama)
wew
i like this religion

>>8074772
Nice,tell here whenever you know the answer

>>8074783
You know...you have to do it vertically,through the vein, not across, you will be done in less than half an hour

>>8065729
i feel like i have to pee more often since starting hrt (been on it for 1.5 years now)
im not on spiro, but on cypro and have been the whole time
its possibly just a placebo effect or something but i feel it

>>8075587
have you started drinking more since hrt?

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Can you take your hrt through a TSA checkpoint?
I've got to travel cross-country for an undergraduate research program.

>>7985923
I think I might be a trans. Before I go out and throw my shekels at a therapist I wanted to get an opinion from /lgbt/.
>some light crossdressing in secret when I was a kid
>always played female characters in games
>cannot get immersed in games when playing a male character
>it feels great when others refer to me and treat me as a girl online
>pretty submissive in general
>frequently insert as the woman in porn
>frequently think about how nice it would be to have the life of an average woman
>my inner voice is fairly feminine, not sure how long that's been going on though
>get jealous when I see women with nice hips around town
>don't like seeing myself in mirrors or pictures
>get strangely emotional when taking showers
>being left alone with my own thoughts and nothing to focus on usually results in me wondering if this is really who I'm supposed to be and getting depressed

>>8074693
shotgun to head, charcoal burning

>>8077052
The crossdressing, playing as a female in games and online, jealousy of women and their life, and inserting as a woman in porn are all typical agp. Agp is one of the two ways someone might be a trans woman (although lots of /lgbt/ being trans works like this).

Some agps are happy not transitioning. You don't sound extremely dysphoric, so maybe that's best. Agp dysphoria can grow worse over time though.

It's definitely something you should think on and learn about. Don't expect a black or white yes you need to transition/no you mustn't transition. Just consider the best you can make of your life either way and how manageable your feelings will be if you don't.

>>8077106
Pseudoscience.

>>8077106
I wasn't expecting a definitive yes/no answer. I recognize that the whole trans thing is not a simple issue and to reduce it to such a black and white dynamic would not be particularly helpful.

Thanks for the input.

>>8077173
Yeah. The question is how close can transition be to being a cis woman, considering things like passing not being guaranteed, vs how much you can enjoy your femininity without transition. Those are the things to think about and they depends on your personal situation and trans feelings, like which parts of living as a woman you'd like and how easy it would be to be close to them without transition.

I don't expect they'll change my advice, but I do have some questions: What kind of secret crossdressing did you do? What do you like about the thought of an average woman's life? In what way is your inner voice feminine? When you say you frequently insert as the woman, do you mean you sometimes don't?

>>8077052
"Might be". Holy Christ anon, you really think non-trans people look at a woman and go 'oh man, I wish I had her hips' instead of 'oh man, I wish I had her hips straddling my face'?

Go get your girl pills, you're as bad off as I was.

>>8077236
>crossdressing
Nothing major, just some stockings and panties a few times late at night. Probably would have done more if my parents didn't do all the laundry. Once put on one of my mother's dresses when home alone but it wasn't remotely close to a good fit so I didn't do it again.
>average woman's life
It seems like they're socially allowed to enjoy and display different aspects of life. Take fashion for instance; women seem to have a lot more options for clothes and accessorizing isn't looked down on compared to men. People seem to treat women differently as well. I may not be able to put it all into words very well, but I think I would enjoy a life where I'm allowed to be seen as delicate and expressing more emotions. I assure you I'm not thinking about this over a desire to be on the cock carousel and party every night.
>inner voice
It sort of sounds like a softer, higher pitched, and "more caring" version of what I think my voice sounds like.
>insert as the woman
This point gets a bit tricky. When I watch vanilla porn I'm usually, but not 100% of the time, inserting as the chick. If I watch solo trap porn (the only kind I watch, and it isn't often) it's usually 50/50 on whether I identify with the trap or simply as a viewer in the room. A good amount of the porn I watch is JoI and I always insert as the viewer on that because it's hard to insert as the chick that is just sitting there talking her way through what is essentially a striptease. I have enjoyed some fpov before, but I don't usually have an urge to seek it out.

>>8077336
>you really think non-trans people
Well of course I don't, that's why I'm here to get other's opinions for free before paying to have a formal discussion.

>>8077475
>I assure you I'm not thinking about this over a desire to be on the cock carousel and party every night.
Of course not! More likely you just want to be sweet and romantic with your husband, feel his big arms embrace you, rest your head against him while watching a movie together, and finally drift off to sleep in each other's arms.

>If I watch solo trap porn (the only kind I watch, and it isn't often) it's usually 50/50 on whether I identify with the trap or simply as a viewer in the room.
Interesting. It's been suggested agps are often more attracted to traps than to cis women even. Maybe that's involved here.

>>8077562
>tfw actually teared up a little bit reading that first sentence
yeah, that's a nice concise way to put it. While I could be the strong figure in the relationship, I think I would much rather have a partner that would be the one making me feel safe and relaxed as I do my part to support them.

>more attracted to traps than to cis women
I once watched a presentation some researcher was giving to a class talking about how his study found that straight men are attracted to tits, ass, feet, and dicks in that order, and that's why many straight guys like traps while gay men generally don't care for traps. How true that was and how well it actually applies to this situation I don't know, but I thought it was an interesting watch. Can't remember what the video was called though.

I wouldn't say I'm more attracted to traps than cis women though.

>>8077647
>tfw actually teared up a little bit reading that first sentence
Oh anon!

>I think I would much rather have a partner that would be the one making me feel safe and relaxed as I do my part to support them.
iktf anon, iktf. Have you tried being gay?

I've seen that presentation too. It had the phrase "erotic illusion" or something close to that, which could be useful if you wanted to search it up.

For your situation though there's the agp to consider too. And yeah, the more attracted to traps idea doesn't ring true to me either.

>>8077704
>Have you tried being gay?
no. In spite of everything I've said so far I don't see myself as a gay. If I ever picture myself with another man, I'm always a woman. Anal has never sounded particularly appealing to me either.

Although when thinking about the ideal relationship it's mostly about our connection and how we care about each other rather than sex.

If im already on t blockers do i still need to worry about beef boosting my T?

I like burgers :(

>>8077839
>In spite of everything I've said so far I don't see myself as a gay. If I ever picture myself with another man, I'm always a woman.
I didn't mean see yourself as gay! Just trying a relationship with a guy and seeing if you can picture yourself as a woman enough for that to be possible without transition. That way you'd get the kind of relationship you'd like and to be feminine and everything without needing to worry about transition or passing or coming out as trans.

I don't know the numbers but there must be gay guys who are happy without anal too.

That only liking guys when you see yourself as a woman and not seeing yourself as gay is typical agp too. You're a really classic example.

>>8077927
Hmm alright I see what you're saying here. It's definitely something for me to consider. With everything I have going on right now I don't think it's the time to jump into a relationship, but I'll definitely consider it.
>You're a really classic example.
I don't quite know how I should feel about this

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>>8077106
How are those things specifically AGP and not just symptomatic of being MtF in general? Inserting as the woman in porn maybe, but the rest are in no way intrinsically sexual and are common in non-AGPs too.

MTF. I'm balding at 28. I start hormones next month. How much regrowth should I expect, if any? And advice on wigs?

>>8079753
Sounds like you're on the road to realising that obsessing over AGP/HSTS is just a meme.

>>8057381
Honestly if they are your best friend you just need to say it, I haven't got HRT yet but have talked to my friends about my feelings and too see what they had to say, one of them wasn't surprised at all, reminded me of a couple of repressed memories (Bulling and having a terrible time when voice broke) and then gave me one of her hoodies and we talked about what her routine in the morning and the amount of effort you need to put into looking pretty. First time posting but I need some advice, I've been repressing this as even an option for so long but the feeling has been their since I was young, I've told my mother too but I don't have a propper support network yet and am worried that I am going to be put on some waiting list. I don't feel like I can wait I can't even function; what do I do girls? Should I make a doctors appointment and just straight up ask for HRT? (NZ btw)

so someone in another thread was memeing about dr speigle being shit but wasnt offering any actual information why or how their reputation isn't as good (supposedly) anymore. can someone catch me up? I'm not on the brink but they are one of my top pics

>>8079794
Serano criticised proponents of the theory, claiming that they dismiss non-autogynephilic, non-androphilic transsexuals as misreporting or lying while not questioning androphilic transsexuals, describing it as "tantamount to hand-picking which evidence counts and which does not based upon how well it conforms to the model" I cannot believe how much I relate to this at the moment, I feel like I've walked into a warzone just as I'm trying to sort myself out; Is it guilty until proven innocent or am I just in for a ride?

>>8081333
/lgbt/, at least outside of this thread, is a terrible place, especially when it comes to trans stuff.
Just don't obsess over AGP/HSTS like the other anon said, and don't obsess over what /lgbt/ tells you does or does not count as being trans (also ignore anyone saying trutrans unironically). From what I've gathered here and elsewhere, it's largely up to you to determine whether or not you're trans and whether or not it's bad enough to need to transition.
It's definitely intimidating and can leave oyu feeling lost, but if you spend more time on /lgbt/ you'll see it's also kind of liberating because you're not beholden to the overly strict definitions /lgbt/ likes to apply.
Basically, get in to talk to someone with real qualifications asap instead of relying on a hugbox like tumblr or whatever you'd call the inverted hugbox that is /lgbt/

what do i do if i hate being both genders

what if i dont want to be either

>>8081819
you're non-binairy

>>8081875
everyone tells me that doesnt exist

I'm 26.
For the longest time I liked being treated as a girl, seeing myself as a girl and so on. Roleplaying, online games, forums, etc.
At the time, I didn't even knew being trans was a thing.
For as far as I can remember I always felt like "a girl inside a boy's body"
After years, I got "accustomed" to my body, to the point I'm confortable being physically male, to some extent(I shave body hair, for instance)
50% of the time I'm ok the way I am, the other half, I feel that I should take the leap and transition.
Whenever I think about all I'd have to go through, I get discouraged.
Anyone here feels/felt like this? I don't eben know where to look for help or like minded people to talk about it.


Sorry if this isn't the place for this kind of post.

>>8081152
no one then?

>>8076667
possibly, it's not something i've been doing consciously in any case

How can I tell if what I'm feeling is legitimate gender dysphoria and not something I'm mistaking for gender dysphoria? Over the past few years I've spent a lot of time around trannies, and I didn't really start questioning until recently. Is it possible I somehow picked up these feelings from them through some sort of reverse psychological projection?

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>>8081819
Join the nonbinary club my guy

>>8065345
guy's underwear comforts the dick and balls and restricts their movement. Bras do about the same thing but with two bigger things projecting off your chest instead of your pubis, and they make milk instead of cum

>>8083228
>i couldn't pass as a girl so i just say im non binary now
top kek

>>8083625
What's the point of panties then?

>>8081666
Thank You; That is probably the most level headed comment I've seen on here in a while; I've got an appointment with my doctor and I'll try to take things with a grain of salt, I've never thought of 4chan as an inverted hugbox but It does make sense, we're all in this battle together

What should I do if I will never pass or get to a presentable level of fem

new thread:

>>8086675
>>8086675
>>8086675