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Chara edition

• Informed consent providers https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Forward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Clinics.pdf
• Makeup for beginners: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
• Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
• Correct hormone levels: http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
• Checking your levels: http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
• Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
• Transition time lines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• snugg
• Voice Training: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
• Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
• IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg

old: >>7911767
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nim thread
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bad pizza tastes are killing /mtfg/
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I want to die I'm not a real girl
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>>7912914
you know it's like mostly a joke right?
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Nim, give others a turn.
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anime is trash, all of it except eva

so is undertale
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elann thread
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>>7912929
but it's my thread
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>>7912912
wew all this cross-language cross-culture stuff makes discussion of peppers very difficult

green peppers are 0% spicy (bell pepper?)
the red pepper I meant isn't really spicy either, not like a chili pepper at all
pepperochinis/banana peppers (pic related) are a bit spicy, but not like chili pepper levels of spicy
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Can anyone help me with my levels and tell me if this is OK?

I'm on zoladex and 100mcg patches
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>>7912931
This
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>>7912923
Nty :c
I need to go somewhere colder with less bugs, Australia is like the last place I'd move
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>>7912931
They don't even try anymore, do they?
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>>7912936
>estrogen
>557
whoa
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>>7912928
I hate to break it to you, but nobody is laughing.
I'm fairly certain you aren't either
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>>7912928
so are you gay
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>>7912937
idk what kind of self respecting man doesnt watch dragon ball super in 2017

besides like tribal villages without internet maybe
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>when u and a lad are joking about the ugliness of helicopters vs jet fighters and u make a self-deprecating joke and he actually worries about you
wtf
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>>7912934
Do you even do anything besides post itt? When's the last time you went outside or to anything really
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Tfw have your own edition.
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Threadly reminder that Drakeposter is a virgin.
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do you think the pizza delivery people care that im ugly..idk if its safe to order
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>>7912926
Nah it's CP posters hitting on 16 year olds that's killing the thread
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>>7912935
those green ones look like the peppers you get in kebabs

bell peppers are like the yellow/red/green ones though, that taste sweet
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>>7912956
the sky is red and komodo dragons are herbivores

>>7912958
are you saying that me saying cindy has bad pizza taste is flirting with her
yes i can see this perfectly
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>>7912956
Do you think he's going to sperg out on the first underage transgirl he gets to come over and rape her and then deny it for 3 years like hips?

Or will no one fall for it

Hard to say
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>>7912957
They just want a tip. That's about it.
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>>7912957
Stop. You know you are not ugly.
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All of you should deliver pizza for a while

After that you will never like pizza again so you stop bickering about this

baka
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>>7912943
well that was a little mean

it may be a dumb joke but it's still a joke

>>7912944
no
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>>7912953
<3
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girls you're talking far too much i'm trying to get to sleep
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>>7912965
if it was like hips then faye would be obsessively yelling "RAPE" any chance i posted
and i dont want to get near that chinman
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>>7912969
but mopeds are scary as heck
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>>7912957
they're probably putting testosterone in it to make you manly

>>7912969
nah I delivered for a few years
still love pizza
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>>7912969
Reminds me of how I worked at a liquor store and now I never ever want to drink again in my life. I saw where that road leads

For pizza I'm sure it's just a lot of fatsos
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>>7912969
but you would be smelling pizza all day
doesnt that mean youd want more
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>>7912963
Yes a grown man wouldn't be talking to a 16 year old girl like a middleschooler trying to get a date to the dance unless he wanted to fuck them drake

Seriously
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>>7912969
>stupid opinions
>>7912968
my side profile and daily street harassment disagrees with you
>>7912967
oh ill give em a tip
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>>7912951
ive answered this question many times before and the answer is still no
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>>7912936
>>7912942

what's cis equivalent target range? I'm just starting but want to make sure I'm not memed too hard by my doctor

are the ranges on these results for typical females? i know sometimes the numbers are for your natal sex

I'm starting low, mostly by choice due to breast fusion meme, but my nipples are already tender
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>>7912980
so criticizing pizza taste is trying to get a middleschooler to a dance

i can tell youre very sane and playing with a full deck
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>>7912984
what's ur name
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>>7912937
this is a good comic
it can also be used to explain why we've all turned ourselves into trannies
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reminder drake is a pedophile tranny chaser and harasses trans girls into mental institutions.

but noooo he can hang out here. after all he barely posts :^)
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>>7912980
to be fair, drake's only like 3 years older than cindy, so it's not like it's some 40 year old man perving on her

also cindy, please don't date drake, even if he is lusting after you
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>>7912973
I wonder how many free video games and red pill tear downs it is going to take to get someone to come close enough for you to assault them.

Hopefully the world will never know
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>>7912981
>daily street harassment disagrees with you

What kind of horrible place do you live in?
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>>7912991
don't forget he's a virgin
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>>7912970
A little honesty goes a long way.
Besides, it's obvious that it's one of those jokes that's only half a joke (like when I joke about killing myself), so it gets a little depressing watching you go in circles literally every day trying to find some way out of being gay.

I'm sorry that you are terrified at the prospect that you might be queer, but honestly, that's not going to change what you are, so tough shit. We're all faggots here, we aren't going to judge you for it.
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>>7912991
[citation needed]
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>>7912992
i dont date sluts

>>7912991
so i found out today that i
>have mods who ban anyone i dont like
>drive women into mental institutions

what else
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>>7912992
So it'll be 17 year old with a 20 year old? I was junior in college at 20, that's super gross
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>>7912999
Why did you ban ash?
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>>7912997
elanna I have no idea what to do to improve myself
every step has 10 smaller steps in front of it that i don't know how to do
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>>7913001
you realize that anyone believing something that dumb pretty much 100% means youre faye right
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>when u drink a glass of milk and mom says you had an allergy for it when u were a babby
h-hehe
good thing i did the same thing saturday and im still okay
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>>7912984
No, you're actually doing okay. About 151 pg/ml. I misread that as pg/ml above instead of pmol/L. If you were 557 pg/ml you would be a mess.
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>>7912995
are you saying my location determines my bone structure
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Anchovies are terrible
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>>7913004
Don't you hate ash? I'm confused.
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>>7912990
i have a comic that perfectly explains why people become trannies (i believe that was also authored by the respected mr. ben garrison), although i've lost it somewhere in my folders

it'll probably turn up in 3 weeks time when i don't need it anymore
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>>7913009
hugg wife
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>>7912999
>drake does classic men's right activist type shaming of Cindy to tear down her ego so she'll date him
>calls a child a slut

In what world is that okay

That's really gross for a grown man to act that way
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>>7913003
The best thing you can do is start. Doesn't matter which direction you go, just pick one at random and go. Sort out the details when you have the momentum
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>>7913006
get that estrogen bby
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>>7912999
you posted a 17 year olds nudes. she just came into the thread yesterday and told everyone what a piece of shit you are. too autistic to remember?
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>>7913004
Ash will be back after her ban, but I doubt she'll talk to you about it since you banned her for reporting you
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>>7913014
cindy acts like a huge slut here to all the old chasers lol
idk what any of that anti-men crap youre saying means though

>>7913011
yes i hate ash because she's done nothing wrong to me
and i got her banned because im DEFINITELY a 4chan mod

what other alarmingly true facts do you need me to prove

im actually kaylas bf
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>>7913016
ayyyyy
gettin it
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>>7913013
Hugg
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>>7913003
If you can recognize what those 10 smaller steps are just make those

Set concrete goals with due dates. It feels good when you achieve goals and then you'll want to achieve more
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>>7913009
>Anchovies are terrible
You just made my shit list.
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>>7913008
I have never seen ugly people harassed for their looks on any street. I am sure it has happened to someone before, but I cannot imagine it being a common occurrence for you unless you live in an anomaly.
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>>7913011
I don't think any body hates ash desu.
Or atleast not anyone with a legitimate reason.
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unsure if hungry or belly acting up
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>>7913019
Could you make who you are any less obvious? Honestly..
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>>7913021
Don't forget that isla says she won't come around here because it's 24:7 attacks from drake when he's around

First isla, now Ash, and yesterday all day it was Faye. You're just here to try to fuck literally anyone, and willing to destroy the community to do it
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>>7913034
Faye?
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>angry shitposting virgin
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>>7913012
these are excellent honestly
if you do come across it please post it
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>>7913027
theres a difference between being ugly and being a tranny. youre allowed to harass trannies.
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>>7913017
considering she posted mine first
it was well damn deserved

but i say this like everyday so i dont think now in particular itll get through that 10 inch thick diamond skull of yours
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>>7913034
Bane?
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>>7913038
It's way too early to be faye, I don't message her until at least another hour
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chasers should fuck off and die, esp the pedo that won't leave us alone

>>7913007
i'm not the one with the results

>>7912988
poatgoster
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>>7913036
considering none of this makes sense i dont really wanna pay much attention to it

but so far ive turned down meeting up with oryx, pookie, isla, moap, and ellie

so uhhhh
lol
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ok.
i think i'm gonna try to make myself available for other trannies somehow.
i hope they'd understand better than other people that i need to be emotionally ready for makeouts & what have you
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>>7913044
>reasons it's okay to post CP
>reasons it's okay to store CP
>reasons it's okay to date a child as a grown man

Dis gust ing
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>>7913021
>erp on an image board for validation
>somehow makes me a slut
???
You know 4chan isn't real life right?
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>>7913019
that's why she hasn't posted
been wondering why she's been gone
must suck to have a static ip
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>>7913044
'hurrdurr she posted mine first'
youre so retarded you think this is justification for being a shithead. you realize youre making excuses for posting CHILD PORNOGRAPHY. youre harassing A CHILD. a grown man in his mom basement harasses CHILDREN for fun.

what a piece of shit you are drake. i hope everyone here wises up and filters you.
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>>7913056
17 years old is kinda pushing the limit on what cp is
and 19 years old is kinda pushing the limit on what a grown man is
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>>7913059
Drake is a pick up artist, he thinks by shaming you he can get another minor to send him porn that he'll spread on here if you even talk badly to him once
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>>7913059
>You know 4chan isn't real life right?
Not even making a meme when I say some people in these threads have a really hard time separating the two
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>>7913053
your posts always seem to lack context and usually confuse me, but i'm glad you post here, alines
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report every drakeposter post until he gets banned

report every drakeposter post until he gets banned

report every drakeposter post until he gets banned
report every drakeposter post until he gets banned
report every drakeposter post until he gets banned

report every drakeposter post until he gets banned

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report every drakeposter post until he gets banned
report every drakeposter post until he gets banned

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report every drakeposter post until he gets banned

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report every drakeposter post until he gets banned
report every drakeposter post until he gets banned

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report every drakeposter post until he gets banned
report every drakeposter post until he gets banned

report every drakeposter post until he gets banned

report every drakeposter post until he gets banned

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report every drakeposter post until he gets banned
report every drakeposter post until he gets banned

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report every drakeposter post until he gets banned

report every drakeposter post until he gets banned
report every drakeposter post until he gets banned
report every drakeposter post until he gets banned

report every drakeposter post until he gets banned

report every drakeposter post until he gets banned

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report every drakeposter post until he gets banned
report every drakeposter post until he gets banned

report every drakeposter post until he gets banned

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>>7913062
>not working for your own ISP and having full control of your ip assignment
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>>7913056
we were both underage lol
that makes no sense

>>7913059
definitely
or at least shows youll grow up into one
especially letting a bunch of old guys add you and creep on you and give your cp to them

>>7913064
we were both 17

>>7913063
im not too sure you have any idea what youre talking about
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>>7913043
You can write a note instructing the delivery person to leave the pizza at the doorstep with cash attached.

You are not ugly.
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Lmao I yelled at another homeless person yesterday
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>>7913072
fucking kill yourself you piece of shit
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>>7913072
Drake pretends this happened two years ago edition
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>>7913076
That first sentence needs restructuring.
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Filters exist for a reason
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>>7913079
nice rebuttal dude
the best thing is knowing that even though you dont have a response youre gonna say the exact same thing an hour later

like a dumb puppy who cant register anything
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>>7913072
>blaming children
>blaming children
>blaming children
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>>7913078
Stop having meltdowns in front of the mirror, Beanboy.
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>>7912997
im not worried about people here judging me, it's the people outside of here
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>>7913072
lol I don't let old guys creep on me, I ignore them
I've never sent cp to anyone either, and I wouldn't
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idk why you all want to attack drakeposter like this
he just thrives on conflict you know
you're doing the exact opposite of the thing you need to do to get him to leave
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>>7913088
:o
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>>7913091
cindy you have to stop giving the pedophile a reason to come here. stop replying to him.
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>>7913072
>we were both kids lol
it's still a felony, even for kids, to distribute cp, idiot
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>>7913087
who am i blaming exactly?

>>7913091
you literally said you were sending guys pictures of yourself lol
idk how i would misinterpret it like that

>>7913080
yeah, was about 2 years
way before this place
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>>7913093
>he just thrives on conflict you know
This. It's like attacking a fire by throwing coal at it.
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Anyone here from pittsburgh
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>>7913093
He's not going to leave, he has a fetish for underage trannies, and this is the only way he's going to fulfill that

The best thing we can do is educate and protect the children so he doesn't victimize another one
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>>7913103
Not cp, not revealing pictures
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>>7913102
so?
im a creature of revenge
im gonna get even regardless

>>7913109
do you still think me saying her pizza taste is shit is flirting with her

because youre shoehorning that like crazy hard

and it makes 0 sense
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>>7913103
>especially letting a bunch of old guys add you and creep on you and give your cp to them

youre the old guy adding vulnerable children in hopes theyll send you nudes. its no coincidence the person that talks to you the most here is 15 years old.
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Someone should get a bunch of screenshots of drakeposter being an awful person together in one image so we can show it to anyone he sucks up to
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>>7913112
>im a creature of revenge
*tips fedora*
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>>7913115
are you saying i talk to cindy the most here
lol

are you like really new to this community or just really daft
i dont even talk to her at all
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>>7913109
>he has a fetish for underage trannies
idk why people insist on saying this
you really undermine yourself when you cite a relationship he had when both he and the girl were both underage, and there wasn't a big age difference between them
I don't see anyone saying anything about isla storing cp? and isla posting cp?

like you can technically make the argument you're making but you're basically lying
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someone get the mods from irc he literally admitted to posting cp
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>tfw your clay mask got here but the apple cider vinegar you have to mix it with didn't so you can't use it
first world problems in a nutshell
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>>7913112
>distributes CHILD PORNOGRAPHY
>for REVENGE

case closed
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>>7913121
its just one anon spamming the 1 minute post limit everytime lol

faye i think because shes the only one dumb enough to think im actually a 4chan moderator
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>>7913117
This

On an average day he rape denies, defends cp, body and sexuality shames, and then says he's a nice guy

It'd be epic
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jfc i hate how my desktop is right in front of the front window thing
i feel looked at 24/7
wish i didn't promise mummy to put my desktop downstairs >n<
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>>7913127
>rape denies

yep, thats faye

im gonna take a nap justin but i really hope you work out these issues youre having
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>>7913127
Probably the only two people who care are you two. So one of you two do it
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>>7913126
is that whats supposed to be true now?
I thought it was that she got banned for falsely reporting something that you posted about fay..
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Clark
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>>7913121
Isla left bro
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there's no point in transitioning

I'll still be lonely
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>>7913134
ay mayne
a luv dis Clark
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why does the piece of shit hang out here anyway
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>>7913133
Faye's actually autistic and does this Anoning to whoever she hates at the time.

Edie, Burch, Etc..
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I miss the days of nudes, tier-lists and bullying.
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>>7913133
Drake has to create false flag attacks to deligitimize critics of his cp posting
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Do you think you cope living by yourself for a long period of time?
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>>7913136
i mean she posted yesterday
but thats not really the point, no one cared when isla did the same thing to him
no one called her a pedophile who posts cp even though it was just as true for her as it was for him
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>>7913142
Imma have some of these goobas
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>>7913146
*bullies u*
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>>7913146
The age of the weponized autism chaser is truely the darkest timeline

No one knew what we were creating when we formed mtfg years ago, we were too busy trying to decide if we could, and not thinking about if we should
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>>7913145
it's annoying
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>>7913150
Until I kms, sure
>>7913146
Simpler times
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>>7913151
>drake white knight posters

MY SIDES

Every time never gets old
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>>7913150
sure, beats living with friends or boyfriends
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Why are men ruining the nice chara thread to defend their CP
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>>7913136
wait.
isla had cp & distributed it?
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>>7913150
I'm fine with it but I do have a lot of internet friends to keep me occupied.

Also I preferred when I had a bf living with me. Not even necessarily for the boyfriend things, it's just nice having company.
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>>7913162
Toob
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>>7913163
Why do you keep making a post every minute unable to stop talking about it..
Calm down, lol
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Drakeposter cannot be stopped, he has the incel rage built up inside him
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>>7913170
I'm not really there's more then one person, drake just wants to pin it on someone
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i see a lonely rain cloud moving over
looks really pretty and low-hanging even
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>>7913159
it just really devalues the term cp when its used like this
and it also shows that people don't really care that lewds of a 17 year old were posted, they just want to be able to call someone they don't like a pedophile
otherwise they'd do it to isla too
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>>7913176
It just looks like two desu.
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>>7913176
>>7913175
Faye STOP same fagging on multiple computers just to attack drakey, he's just misunderstood and I know it's you so don't even try to deny it
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I got really good sleep last night.
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>>7913185
RAW INCEL POWER
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>>7913179
are you trying to tell me that some people in mtfg are hypocrites, anon?
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>>7913179
but drake isnt underage. and isla was unstable. dudes literally soliciting nudes from minors.
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>>7913179
ok. they BOTH should be in jail.
there. i said it.
happy?
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>>7913179
Drake stop whatabouting as anon
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>>7913191
They were both underage.
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>>7913179
Isla is 18, IIRC she turned 18 late last year
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>>7913187
Did you dream?
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Heh... you think I care about your petty laws? Me?... heh I'm a creature or revenge kiddo... it's personnel
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>>7913192
What does your name mean? Ariinesu?
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>tfw drake and faye are having proxy wars via anonymous posting, destabilising the whole of the mtfg region
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>>7913198
years of virginity have given him the discipline required to master the blade
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>>7913194
How was drake the same age as isla when he turned 19 early last year and isla turned 18 late last year

He was 19 when he posted the cp
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>>7913198
kek
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>>7913205
And she was 18 when she posted his.
But they were underage when they dated.
Is this too hard to understand? That's the story on discord.
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>>7913200
Are faye and isla friends?
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>all these 19 year old and younger kids being dramatic
Man I feel old
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>>7913199
it doesn't mean anything.
アリーネス is this blue cat from ecchi trap doujin game.

crap. isla's my friend
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post cute clothes
i need retail therapy
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>>7913212
feh..
drakeposter has ascended above your petty mortal squabbles
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>>7913213
Cute cat

I'm learning Japanese currently and was trying to figure it out is all.
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>>7913209
So an 18 year old posted pictures of someone more then a year older then her when she dated him at 17... can you not math and see that if drake is 19 now, he wasn't 17 last year.
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Imagine you're a vulnerable young transgirl looking for a place to be accepted and this is your first /mtfg/ thread.
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>>7913214
Seconding this request. I need new shoes or booties

I'd post pics from my recent purchase but I'm on mobile and it's kinda hard to get good images and links
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>>7913210
i don't think so, that'd make for kind of a strange friendship

we need a chart or something to track all this stuff though
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>>7913219
Don't listen to this left wing liberal shillary bitch, you youngins are perfect just the way you are, how bout some free steam games and a sense of validation?
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>>7913219
Some of us are trying to stay out of it.
My very first ever thread had POTC in it, she was 20 times worse.
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>>7913196
Yes. I always dream.
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>>7913218
You realize everyone doesnt have the same birthday, right...?
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>>7913225
Not nightmares I hope.
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E day is just around the corner
2017 the Testosterone reign is at it’s end
Cypro at the gates, as the Androgens open fire
There´s no time to waste, the final battle has begun
After the downfall, a castle besieged
Facing the male hormones awaiting relief
Y Chromosome and male puberty and their men set the prisoners free
An it’s the end of the line of the final journey
Enemies leaving the past
And it’s Estrogen troops and the Testosterone army
Joining together at last
One last fight, it’s the death throes of the male reich
Justice shall be done, the final battle remains
Hormones are running low, they’re depleting their sperm count
Every cell counts until surrender is announced
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>>7913226
Drake is 19 he was 19 in 2016, how was he 17 in 2015
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>>7912957
Beep..... Are you fucking serious????? You are cute, period. Whether you pass as female or not it doesn't change the fact that you are objectively smaller and cuter than the overwhelming majority of earths population. Do you honestly believe a pizza delivery person hasn't delivered to legitimate monsters and ugly people? Cmonnnnnnn no point in beating yourself up over something thAt is unfounded.
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>ywn be as smol as Lauren from Chvrches
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>>7913236
tfw inferior Lauren
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>>7913236
She's 2cute
I would be happy being a grimes desu
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>>7913233
He must've been 18 and 19 in 2016...
Therefore 18 and 17 in 2015..

Even then I dont know whether the ages these things happened are right.
Some anon just said she was 17 in the pic, lol.
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stop talking about meme /mu/ waifus
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>>7913219
yeah this desu

god i remember when i first came here you had people like akaka posting

a fucking godsent to newtrans.

now we have a thread full of chasers and drakeposter

i'm generally just gonna try to not post here anymore, idk what other trans communities exist that aren't shit other than tumblr
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>>7913235
zhe pls
i just dont wanna looka like a man
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>>7913233
well, for the sake of argument, if his birthday was in feburary, that could have made him 19 in march of 2017, but 17 in january of 2016

just depends on what month it was
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>>7913238
ur not

>>7913240
i like how much variation grimes can have in her looks
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>>7913245
>akaka
too soon, sertii

she may have been a great person, but she still left us all alone without warning
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>>7913245
>idk what other trans communities exist that aren't shit other than tumblr
there really aren't any that aren't hard to find. The best option is to make friends with trans girls and join their friend group chats (like discords or etc)
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>>7913243
Drake turned 19 in mid October, he talked about his birthday, he's lying to make it seem equally as bad
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I need some help.
I am trying to come out to the rest of my Friends and other family members over facebook, too many to do in person.
And I wrote this so far.

http://pastebin.com/75AXrr4v
What should I add/remove?
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i remember people used to say /mtfg/ was probably the best place for a teenage mtf to stumble apon on like 2014
really gone downhill when you think of it like that
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>>7913246
>man
You look absolutely nothing like a man. A man is an adult male. You are 5'2. At the absolute worst you might look like a femboy on your bad days but stop saying man you have zero features of a man. You aren't muscular, hairy, tall, chiseled face, nearly zero adult male facial features? Stop using the word man because even if you had testosterone you'd still never look like a man. You are a tiny little person.
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Let's turn this into a nice thread
>tfw posted phone wallpaper in that "guess your sexuality/gender based on your phone bg" thread and they knew I was a tranny
Heck
>>7913258
>make friends
I-I'll just stick to posting on /mtfg/ instead
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>>7913263
they thought i was ftm
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>>7913260
Sounds like you're starting off a bit aggressive...do you some from somewhere particularly religious?

Also, it seems way too wordy in general. I feel like "coming out" messages should be a lot shorter, maybe a paragraph or two.
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>>7913258
yeah i make friends irl, i meant mostly online.

Tumblr has a lot of communist trans women and is extremely hostile to chasers, i'll just stick to there.

>>7913255
akaka was a godess ;-;
she made me come out as trans
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>>7913248
He was born mid October, he turned 19 october 2016, meaning he was 18 October 2015 and that was before his first post on mtfg and before he dated isla
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>>7913266
Nice and minimalistic theme, would use.

Maybe people just assume MtFs like overly flowery and designed and girly things?
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>>7913266
That's a comfy theme desu
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>>7913268
how do I set up a tumblr
i tried before and everyone i found was like 15
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>>7913260
In general I think making a public coming out post isn't a good idea. It always looks like making a mountain out of a molehill, but if that's what you wanna do then go for it.

Personally I don't like when people write a post and include things where they try to guess what the reader is thinking at that moment. Stuff like your "ok before you click off let me explain". It just comes across oddly to me. That's probably one thing I would change.
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>>7913272
hugg
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/mtfg/ has truly become worthless as a trans support community because it's been taken over by a histrionic, psychotic chaser who takes over all discussion with his insanity

i guess it just mirrors how the rest of /lgbt/ got taken over by caraposter, lol.
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>>7913225
it's pretty nice being a frequent dreamer :)
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>>7913273
i'm not sure i'll make one after dinner and i'll get back to you.
Also i like your phone theme, this is my wallpaper :3
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>Tfw my crying is followed by a deep seated rage

That's it. No next dose of e Time to unleash the beast.
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>>7913260
I literally changed it and didn't mention it for a few month until some people noticed

And then I said yeah I'm mid transition in a one liner and people were pretty okay with it
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>when you're 6:30 late with your mones
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>tfw have a tumblr but never use it for trans stuff
I should probably make a side one or something desu
>>7913276
Hugg
>>7913282
Don't stop E
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>>7913260
2 pretentious. you dont need to justify yourself. keep it short and sweet. if youre looking to avoid maximum social damage you need to say that you know you arent biological female and thats what youre problem is. you need to do this to have confidence and self respect bc its your identity and hiding has become harder than coming out. just bc ur not cis that doesnt mean people shouldnt treat you how you want to be treated.
>>7913262
zhe is an angel too pure for this world :')
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>>7913285
Yeah I have one too and I don't think it mentions I'm trans

But then again only like 5 people follow me so idk
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>>7913286
>>7913262

I love it when my little girls are being so nice to each other
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>>7913267
I am Religious yeah but a lot of my friends who are also Religious are cool with it, I just know a couple that don't know, but are against Transgender.
>>7913275
>>7913286
http://pastebin.com/gsiA6ADZ
How is that.
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>>7913289
faye can u call me baby girl.
:3

& ya beep is my sis
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>take the bus for the first time after removing repression beard
>get charged for a childs ticket
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>>7913282
Iktf
50mg Cypro and I'm think I'm getting angrier every time I cry

Maybe I CAN get out of this hell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uCsJ0EuDyc


"Testosterone give me your power!"
"Fine just take it!"
"But Spartan! FINISH HER NOW"


Oh if only...if I can find a way to seperate her from this body. I could kill her and have complete dominance
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>>7913290
It's a lot better.

Idk it looks you like put a lot of work into it but I kinda agree with beep up here >>7913286. Short and sweet to me works better. The thing is, obviously it's a BIG deal to you because it's you, but to your friends and family? They'll probably not care as much.
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>>7913292
can i be ur sis too
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>injects estrogen to nin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvX_drgRrfY
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>>7913289
make mommy happy again
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Tfw I use female privilege to get a free tank of gas
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>tfw adrenal gland is pumping out enough auxiliary Testosterone to allow a short period of personality split


I'm gonna kill her and then I'm gonna kill the faggot aspect too
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>>7913301
nin <3
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>>7913296
>>7913305
Pull though old comrade. Only a true warriors body would resist hrt the way yours is
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>>7913304
ctrl+f Faye: 14 results.

tgis is a giod thread :3
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>>7913296
>>7913305
>this autistic chuuni multiple personality shit again
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>>7913311
ctrl+f DrakeL 81 results

tgis is a giod thread :3
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>>7913312
AMY ISNT HERE RIGHT NOW
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>>7913312
This is why transition is wrong
Biological Males are not meant to have estrogen
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>>7913320
god is gay lol
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>>7913312
I do not enjoy it.
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>>7913320
Biological males are the worst for having chuuni shit though. Honestly I think estrogen suppresses autism a bit. Not much, just look at these threads, but a bit.
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>>7913325
Does anyone? I mean, not even Amy does.
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>>7913316
but drake is everywhere, like poop.

that's not a good indicator for a goid fred
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>>7913325
I enjoy it in my Chinese cartoon as comic relief but irl it's just cringe. It reminds me too much of how I actually was in middle school
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helix piercing or belly button???????????????????????
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>>7913305
hugg amy

give her a lil pat on the hed
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>>7913299
I put more into it because it's a small town, not a whole lot of people know what Transgender is.
Is there anything specific you suggest I'd get rid of?
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>>7913329
>like poop.
boy am i glad i live in a country where people don't shit on the street
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i really really like it when nim says lil instead of little
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>>7913332
Helix.
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>>7913332
The puritan in me says neither

Helix is less trashy imo. The better of the two for sure
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>tfw the word trashy triggers me unironically
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>>7913339
im glad there are still puritans other than me left
>>
trashy tranny
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>>7913343
RUDE
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>>7913328
I just need to get strong enough to quit again. I was blitzkreiged. But now I've recovered and my male rage and repression powers are returning through the haze

Such a prolonged exposure to e will create a positive reinforcement of the emotional dulling that test provides

>>7913320
This. All you did was make me mad

You'll never destroy me. I'm always gonna be there to cut amy down

Years of compartmentalisation have allowed me my own ego, my own soul of you will. Separate from hers

>>7913327
All the more justification for why I should be in charge

>>7913328
I'm going to enjoy killing her

Wonder how I'll deal with the enablers. But I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
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>>7913338
>>7913339
helix is good bc i think it pulls the eye away from long maleish face.

im still gonna get my belly eventually bc i am in fact trash
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>>7913343
don't be mean to trashy - just because she's scottish doesn't mean you should be mean to her

oh wait, yes it does, goddamn weegie
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i used to be puritan about piercings but literally why? it hardly changes anything. you have to stop associating femininity w being a slut. i blame ur upbringing or social circles
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>>7913348
>when you autism post so hard you give yourself an actual mental disorder
Seriously though, get some professional help.
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>>7913334
I'm wondering if at least making your back story a little more concise would benefit it. Saying stuff like "oh I hoped it was just a phase" makes it seem like being trans is such an awful thing. Not to say that it isn't awful, but I think it might seem too negative.

Honestly though, you do you. You know the people you're coming out to much better than I.

>>7913335
I just had "TOILET Road" as my captcha. Made me think

>>7913342
Never going to get a tattoo or piercing other than earlobes desu. Just how my mom raised me.

>>7913349
That's actually a good point. It might make your ears appear smaller too if that's something you care about at all.
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reminder that the real-life Tony Stark is a transbian and started off as the founder of the radio station Sirius XM but now runs a company looking for cures for rare diseases and researching digitisation of consciousness

this should be the sort of trans people we look up to, not vapid models like Andreja Pejic and Hari Nef

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTJpJlVkRTA
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>>7913346
I DIDN'T MEAN IT
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>>7913362
Triggering me isn't nice :(
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>>7913341
hugg triggered grill
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>>7913365
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>>7913360
my family used to tease me about having big ears but i literally have never seen it. i think theyre just abusive.
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>>7913354
I have counselling on Friday. lets hope I retain control for then and can now undo the little joyride damage that was caused

For now however. Gonna get that mother of mine to stop enabling this mental illness

"Like a virus, war was always lurking inside you, no matter how hard you tried to suppress it. It just fought harder to get out. It always got out"
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>>7913369
Yeah idk that sounds abusive, I never really notice peoples ears.

Also don't think it means much, I was just joking about ear size because some people here are soo obsessive about those kinds of small meaningless traits.
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>>7913352
I always liked piercings on other people c:
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>>7913352
I mean it was my upbringing. My mom never liked piercings or tattoos and that's who I learned it from.
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Why does passgen hugbox?
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>go to shave my legs
>in shower
>shave for 30 minutes
>only get the calf of my right leg done
>water gets cold
>bath now filled with hella hair
>still have 3/4ths of the way to go until I have smooth legs
fuck shaving
least I got a silky smooth calf now bois
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>>7913385
>>7913352
Also I don't consider piercings to be feminine at all. So I'm not associating femininity with being a slut, I'm associating piercings with being a slut.
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>tfw want to go to a comfy cafe and drink hot cocoa
>tfw too anxious/autistic to go to any kind of cafe (alone)
>tfw no comfy cafes around
abstract feel
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>>7913338
where are you from? I'm not american either :3
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>>7913354
I am truly fascinated by the "Spartan"

A product of repression, unaffected by the hormonal effects of estrogen due to its natural immunity as a pathological mental schism.
Truly interesting. A mental fracture so adamant and determined to resist transition. Watching it grow ever more deranged and inhuman as time goes by.

I hypothese that this will conclude in a self-homicide, not suicide. As the Spartan ego will believe it is killing the Amy ego by destroying the shared physical body. Envisioning itself as a hetero-normative warrior even willing to commit dissociative suicide to achieve this goal.

Truly fascinating
>>
>>7913395
This weekend?
There has to be a comfy cafe somewhere in the bigg city
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>>7913389
I feel your pain anon, that just happened to me last week ;-;

When I'm doing my post winter all over shave I do one leg on the first day, other leg on the second, torso oh the third, one arm each day on the 4th and 5th

Thinking about epilating all over this year desu. It hurts but at least I don't need to waste water
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>>7913377
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>>7913398
Ummm yeah we could do that c:

there's this one place completely focused on chocolate-related things
but apart from that idk
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>>7913391
im not saying ur opinion is wrong its just shit
>>
Anyone else wanna read my screenplay?
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>>7913395
>tfw can't be comfy and drink hot cocoa because California and it's always summer
I hate this place u.u
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>>7913402
Ohh boii that sounds like heaven
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>>7913399
My legs are gonna start getting hairy again in like 3 days too I fucking know it
life is suffering
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>>7913386
You look so cute it's making me insecure about my passability. Stop.

>>7913396
America.
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>>7913352
get a tramo stamp in gothic letters and angel wings that says:
welcome cock
XD
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>>7913386
passgen only hugboxes you if they want to fugg you
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>>7913397
I Will win. Whatever the cost.

>>7913400
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zTztlCvOF4
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>>7913404
That's fine. We can't all agree on everything. I don't think I'll ever be convinced that piercings beyond earlobes are nice, and that's fine.

I still like you beep. Even if I disagree with your choice
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>>7913408
hehe yay!
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>>7913396
DESIGNATED
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>>7913361
more like Trany Stark. and she's NB tho
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>>7913406
lmao California is hella gr8 fuck you talking about
Winter is the biggest POS we have a winter storm warning here and it's mid March damnit
being comfy is fun until you can no longer drive because of the weather so it becomes lit. impossible to go to a cafe
Aren't even any good cafes here we got Tim Horton's that's it, SF had hella cafes was fantastic
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>>7913396
MORE LIKE SAN FRANSHITSCO
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>>7913422
SoCal weather sucks and I hate it!
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>come home happy and confident
>get yelled at for being on drugs when i wake up
i fucking give up there's no point in anything
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>>7913422
>Tim Horton's
Canadian or clapistani really far north?
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>>7913431
What the fuck?
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>>7913396
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>>7913409
Yeah but the second time is a lot easier and faster

If you can stand to be stuck in the cold, you might be able to turn the water on lower pressure so you have just enough to rinse the blade, then you won't be spending as much hot water. I do that in the summer when it's hot in my apartment anyway
>>
>>7913416
we should agree on everything we're friends D:
>>7913411
im doing that one tomorrow desu
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>>7913430
norcal best Cal

>>7913428
Lmfao you haven't lived until you've been homeless in the tenderloin my man
The amount of times I stepped in human shit there was unreal

>>7913434
Clapistani far north

>>7913438
I can't stand it honestly I'm too much of a whipped bitch to
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wtf
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>sentinels=estrogen
>Neo=Spartan
>Agent smith=Amy
>other agents=Faggot enabler family and friends

Nice try

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy7RaQUmOzE
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>>7913441
>norcal best Cal
norcal is second best cal
socal is third best cal

1st place goes to the concept of disappointment, because california sucks
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>>7913428
XD 10/10

>>7913439
let's get them together, yes? maybe we can get a twofer discount :p
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>>7913439
D: Beeep no don't say that it's okay!! Even the best of friends have their differences

>>7913441
;-; sucks then anon. I don't think there's a solution
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>>7913450
Yeah you're right Oregon and Washington are better than Cali

>>7913453
Yeah there ain't w/e it'll all be shaved l8r today at least
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>>7913451
discount? we can just get it for free if we blow the dude
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>>7913436
idk i have to vmove
2/2 homes i've been in runined, tiome to fuck upand make the person i love most hate me
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beep don't listen to these nerds piercings are awesome k?
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Idk if this is a good thread to ask this but here goes:

If you paint a horse with black and white stripes and call it a zebra, people will think you're retarded and deceitful. You may have pulled off a pretty convincing zebra impression too, but that horse will never truly be a zebra, and people will never call it a zebra if they know the truth.

Why then should people consider a man who dresses and acts female a "woman"? (sticking to mtf for simplification). The man can never be a biological woman with our current medical technology, they can only ever be imitation women.

I don't think there's anything wrong with pretending to be a woman, dressing up pretty and acting feminine (I <3 feminine twinks btw), I just dont understand why people should consider trannys as REAL women. By definition, they literally can never be real women unless our medical tech jumps a few hundred (thousand?) years ahead.
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>>7913468
What is a biological woman exactly?
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>>7913465
You should go sleep before you do anything rash.
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>>7913468
in this analogy, is the horse also taking pills to make it look more like a zebra?
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>>7913464
you mean like we kiss each other while we suck his cock?

....sounds pretty hot, sign me up for whenever.
>>
well, thoughts anyone?
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>>7913468
wtf i hate trans people now
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>>7913476
i just woke up
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>>7913480
I still think Edie looks weird
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>>7913468
>tfw i m i t a t i o n w o m a n
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>>7913450
I was homeless in socal for a few years when I was 15, I couldn't pick a better place to be homeless. 60f winters and crime so abundant nobody notices petty theft.
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>>7913468
I mean day to day does it even matter? If a transgirl passes and she walks by you you're not going to think anything of it and call her a woman.
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>>7913468
This is just going off of my own experience but I've never heard anyone actually consider a transgirl to be a real woman, they will never be as much as they (I included) might want to
I see it as more of a psychological issue, like they feel that dysphoria so to assist and make them feel more comfortable, you'll be considered a woman. I mean ofc you aren't biologically but assuming you've transitioned or are, you're gonna look like a woman, and more likely than not act like one and speak like one so yeah
And at that point anyone new you meet will know you as a woman anyways because that'll be what they see and hear and know, a woman

I don't really think the biological aspect of gender has anything to do with it
Then again I'm probably talking out of my ass and none of that probably made any sense whatsoever
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>>7913468
we belong in womens spaces until men can get their shit together and not rape/beat/kill every chance they get.
>>7913478
thats exactly what i mean ;)
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>>7913472
IMO its a person with the physical carachteristics of a female. These being a functioning vagina (one that self cleans, lubricates, attatched to functioning uterus, etc.), functional mammaries (milk producing), typically wider hips + narrower shopulders, less testosterone production, etc.

Of course there are women who lack certain components of this (ie. wide shoulders or non functioning uterus), but I feel like because they still poses the rest of the traits naturally, they can still be considered a woman.
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>>7913493
Being homeless in San Francisco felt the same save for the weather, which was like, 50-40 in the winter
Totally tolerable tho
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>>7913480
classic edie desu
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>>7913503
So an XX-intersex with male characteristics isn't a woman?
Or a woman born with no uterus, and narrow hips and wide shoulders?
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>>7913468
i dunno, if a person poses a mockery of another person's condition in bad faith as an innocent question, are the people being made fun of under any obligation to even consider answering this question?

I'm gonna say go fuck yourself, your mom and your zebra. preferably ina threesome
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>>7913468
sex is a phenotype m8 not chromosomes
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>>7913495
No, it doesnt matter at all to me lol. The chances of me ever running into, let alone having an indepth conversation with a trans person are super low. I just like to think about my position on these topics should the situation ever arise.

Better to understand your position and never use it rather than try to develop a full fledged opinion the first time someone asks you.
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>>7913468
>Why then should people consider a man who dresses and acts female a "woman"? (sticking to mtf for simplification)
There's a difference between a "man in a dress" (which no one here wants to be) and someone who passes as a woman in daily life. If for no other reason, you should call that person a woman because they look and sound and act like a woman, and you wouldn't even know they were born a dude if they hadn't told you.

"Real woman" feels like a bit of a charged term though. Trannies obviously can't be cis women and never will be simply because the definitions of "cis" and "trans" are diametrical opposites.
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>>7913480
my diagnosis of you is:
ocd + turbo jealousy 100%
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>>7913468
>this shit again
read stirner and then kill yourself
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just saw old pics of myself and i looked either fat, ugly, or sad
glad things are different now
not-as-fat, decent looking, and happier
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>>7913502
wtf? progesterone has made you into semen demon!

anyhow, I'm in :*
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so amy has destroyed her hrt again apparently

>>7913515
>>7913501
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>>7913529
>decent looking
you mean pretty as HECKE
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>>7913532
why is she so fucking stupid

the emotional labor this thread does just to stop her from being the most insane repressor is unbelievable
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>>7913532
fake plot line detected
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>>7913534
heh thank you very much >.<
y-you too
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what is actually wrong with Amy
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>>7913532
>>7913532
she's clearly just doing it for attention imo
>>7913543
>>7913543
>>7913543
this
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>>7913468

Painting a zebra or horse to look like eachother changes nothing on a molecular or biological level. We are actually augmenting the gene expression at every point of our body still actively producing tissue.

You are talking about entirely different species. We are talking about expressing our genes in the opposite sexual direction through the control of sex hormones which translate and produce tissues as they would if we were natal females.

Do any of us think we are "real" female organisms? No, lmao what ever made you think so? But augmenting my gene expression to begin tissue generation in all trillions of my cells to behave as they would if I were a female organism of the same type, that's better to me than killing myself because I can't stand my body being poisoned by testosterone.

What a dumb question.
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Chara.
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>>7913531
you shouldn't care whether people like you or not - you should make yourself popular enough that other people want you to like them
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>>7913546
all bona fide british trips are insane

i'm slowly turning more insane just being in this island, too
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>>7913542
To be HONest. You shoudlent have encouraged her from the start
Anyone who has seen her Spartan pics would realise that you don't encourage a fucking repressor to transition.

It's like with the matrix. You don't fucking unplug them
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>>7913554
wow
mean
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>>7913546
Chuunibyou and attention seeking
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>>7913531
yes :3
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>>7913559
>Zeus
checks out
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>>7913559
i forgot about you

i do not have any evidence of you being insane, i guess
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>>7913554
>all british trips are either weird, autistic, batshit crazy or some combination of the three
>all british anons are based as fuck
As an American, it's very strange.
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>>7913549
>terfs
>competent
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>>7913549
Zheanna I need voice lessons but I uninstalled Discord and Skype, which one should I reinstall to talk with you? :[
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>>7913558
but i was a repressor for ages and being able to break out of that has been really good for my mental health

i still have some episodes where i go "oh my god what the fuck did i get into" but then i realise this shit is forever

it will never go away

it can never be undone

so might as well just keep going and see what happens!
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>>7913567
yaaay
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>>7913552
But that's not who I am
>>7913564
ily uwu
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>>7913573
Hello, love. I much prefer Skype. I actually don't have a discord. :3

Well, I do but rarely utilize it.
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>>7913513
It's hard finding a middle ground for my opinion here lol, I guess what I feel it really comes down to is having a majority of the traits that separates men from women. The most important being
A functioning uterus
functioning breasts
less muslce development
less bodyhair
narrower skeletal structure

There are always going to be exceptions to these qualities, but just because outliers exist, doesnt change what is considered female. If a trans person has to rely on statistical outliers to be considered female, how can they ever be trully accepted? if that makes sense lol
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>>7913089
People are going to be assholes, that's just life.
However, don't you owe it to yourself to at least be honest with yourself here of all places?
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>>7913580
Hi Zhe
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>>7913546
Low self esteem combined with a instinctive repression reflex alongside internalised homophobia and transphobia

And a coping mechanism consisting of retreating into a alternate bipolar personality known as "Spartan"

To be quite honest. I would rather wish someone had bipolar than transition.
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>>7913550
What.
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>>7913554
>>7913569
Recycled genetic material, bongs been inbreeding since doggerland disappeared.

Its no coincidence Britain started to prosper after Anglo-Saxon and later on vikings settled there to dick some intelligence and better teeth into the native Bretons.
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>>7913580
Alrighty, guess I'll make a throwaway account. Name?
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H-hi.
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>>7913593
Hello.
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>>7913554
*eccentric
britons are eccentric of the inbreeding, especially amongst the royals.
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>>7913582
>functioning breasts
>less muslce development
>less bodyhair
we have those from hrt
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>>7913549
She did the science
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>>7913576
>But that's not who I am
maybe not, but it's unhealthy to seek the favour of people online (doubly so /mtfg/), and the more you crave other people to like you, the more people will manipulate you
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>>7913549
Ok, I agree my analogy could use some work lol. Like I mentioned before though, I dont have a problem with trannys at all. People can do as they like to themselves. I just have a problem with them expecting OTHERS to consider them female, when you yourself said your not "real". I guess it comes down to pronouns and offical documentation for me. I dont think you should be allowed to change either
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>>7913389
>>7913399
Use a clippers first to remove the bulk of the hair.
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>>7913574
Trying to cure trans is more hopeful than ever believing you could pass

Trust me. I know. I was on e for a year and then aborted it. Stayed closeted too.

That was 2 years ago.
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N-nice weather we're having, right?
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>>7913601
If one passes is it really that bizarre to expect that someone see them as female?
They do it automatically anyways.
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>>7913591
I present you inbred northman logic, ladies and gentlemen
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>>7913601
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>>7913606
The weather today was really nice indeed
Blues skies everywhere I went c:
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>>7913601
To clarify, "allowed" to change pronouns is a little off, its better said as: I dont feel people should be allowed to demand new pronouns.

And as far as offical documentation goes, marking m/f should always tie into what sex you're born with. Otherwise it throws statistics and whatnot off.
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>>7913607
but what if someone tests your chromosomes
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>>7913600
I know but I can't help it
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>>7913606
Not really, snow every-where.
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>>7913576
ily too c:
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>>7913582
That's every trans girl that starts hrt on time

6% of women don't have a functioning uterus either

That's a large large present of people to call not a woman, literally millions of women in order to get at like a few tens of thousands of trans women
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What makeup is important so I can start very simple? I'm thinking eye liner and God damn nothing else fuck I'm terrified because I ain't going to pass even with caked on makeup.
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>>7913597
>britons are eccentric of the inbreeding, especially amongst the royals.
British royal families usually married into mainland European noble houses though.

Inbreeding was a problem for most royal families, but British royals were among the lesser inbred
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>>7913616
>Otherwise it throws statistics and whatnot off.

it doesn't, we aren't a statistically significant part of the population
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>>7913616
But doctors that pick the sex of intersex people skew male strongly, and shouldn't they get to pick the hormone they take if they have to inject one or the other?
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>>7913619
That's great weather imo.

>>7913601
So basically you want proof that a passing person is actually trans so you can discriminate against them?
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Can't tell if our current transphobic anon is a /pol/yp or a TERF but either way they're spooked as fuck and obnoxious.

>>7913622
You can use a mix of foundation and lipstick to hide beard shadow if you haven't had laser (or enough sessions of laser).
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>>7913606
>>7913615
Jewish weather
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Oh, right. Yeah, as of right now I no longer like snow. So, uhm, h-how's your day going?
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>>7913621
Actually there are between .7 and 1.2 million of us in the USA alone.
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>>7913617
God, it's so annoying when people do that
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>>7913621
>6% of women don't have a functioning uterus either
Whoa, really?
Source?
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>>7913601
>I guess it comes down to pronouns
For many of us who pass, you're going to instinctively use female pronouns. I didn't choose to change any pronouns, people just gradually started using female ones on me
>and offical documentation for me
What difference does it make to you? Gender on official documentation comes up almost never. It would probably be more confusing and more paperwork for police if I ever got pulled over and my license still said male on it, he'd think I was using someone else's.
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>>7913601
Complaining on 4chan about fabricated non-issues
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>>7913629
Good weather, when i don't want to drive.

>>7913635
Why do you not mention me it kinda looks like you're talking to yourself.
Day is going fine.
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>>7913641
I think it is 6% are infertile through a number of reasons. Dysfunctional uterus is only a small part of that. I think blocked fallopian tubes is the major culprit.
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>>7913639
It's so easy too.

>>7913641
>>7913621
Yeah, as common as it is for women to be completely sterile, I don't think it's THAT common.
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Wouldn't it be cool if we all wore pink triangles?
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>>7913639
I heard the Christian scientist who disproved homosexuality with magnets is now working on making chromosome vision goggles, so our days of tricking straight men into being gay are numbered.
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>>7913586
Hi lizzy! How are you? We still need to practice voice together. :3

>>7913592
My account is Dreamsura
add me!

>>7913599
Ayy

>>7913601
>could use some work
LMAO, no I mean its fundamentally wrong and doesn't even contextualize the discussion in any meaningful way to learn from either party.

>Expecting others
Does anyone here actually EXPECT others to do anything? That's why we put so much effort into passing, so that we don't have to control how others treat us and they freely identify us as we identify because of our likeness to females.

>I dont think you should be allowed to change either
That's like.... your shitty opinion and you are allowed to have it but until men stop raping, beating, and reacting so violently to non-heteronormative identities its gonna be this way.

You say you don't have a problem with trannys but you certainly want us to suffer. Living an identify that does not match with our old documentation honestly puts us in so many shitty situations: providing ID for legal reasons, airports, bars, etc, etc. Being put in prison or jail with raging testosterone beasts. Going to the doctors office and confusing every single person there, etc. There is so many ways.

I mean you do realize the vast majority of shit we have to do as trannys to pass is simply to appease stupid fucks like yourself because its absolutely bad in our society to exist between expectations of gender. Good luck getting a job when you look like a female but everything in your documents says male or vice versa.

So
>I don't have a problem with trannys
Is actually bullshit. You are so naive it's actually hilarious.
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>>7913633
I should stop giving these kinds of people benefit of the doubt, they're usually a /pol/ user who already has their mind made up and just wants us to snap at them so they can pretend that the mean old trannys were being bullies
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>>7913655
do cishet people even know what that means
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>>7913655
Totally cool!
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>>7913657
I'm doing awful.
We really do. Idk when a good time will be though
>>7913655
Hell yes.
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Too much effort responding to reddit quality bait in this thread
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>>7913649
I was going to say "ha, I live in a city and don't need a car", but I remembered I'm at my parent's house this week and need a car to do anything.
:/
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>>7913665
Liz <3
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>>7913648
Lmao, basically
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>>7913655
It's funny because of how unsurprising it would be if lawmakers actually tried to advocate or defend that idea.
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>>7913629
Ive mentioned it numerous times before, I dont have a problem with people looking/acting as the other sex. It's true that some trans people can pass as the opposite sex unconsiously, I would label them she/her without a thought. I just dont like "women" who are obviously men, demanding to be called she/her.

t b h calling obvious men "women" makes me feel stupid, like they somehow tricked me into thinking their the opposite sex when they are very clearly not.

As far as documentation goes, even though trans people are a statistical minority, there are numerous stats that align with them. Not to piss people off, but statistically I've heard suicide rates are higher for them. Potential employers and governemt officals should have access to this, just as they have access to gun owners and medical records.
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>>7913669
Hi Carol <3
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>>7913668
I live in a city too, but i still drive a car.
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You make me timorous. So, I am scared to link you. x.x

Wh-what am I supposed to ask now? I'm floundering pathetically.
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>>7913655
oh wait i misread that nevermind
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>>7913585
when you say it like that it makes it sounds really easy and obvious

so why did i get an anxiety spike when i thought about doing it

this is so stupid
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>>7913682
Why do i make you feel that way?
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>>7913677
oops, employers do not have access to that info, but the government does. It is important to include statistical outliers in official govt documentation.
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>>7913687
*consume chara whole*
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>>7913677
>I just dont like "women" who are obviously men, demanding to be called she/her.
you are confusing SJW's and tumblr snowflakes with all transgender people.

It's a disgustingly gross generalization and it only serves to further undermine your point by illustrating how little knowledge you actually have in this subject.

You even said you've never talked to a transperson before or had an in depth discussion with one.

You are literally basing your entire opinion and perspective based on memes on the internet. Good job, you are a walking meme parroting things you've seen on the interwebs.
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THOSE REASONS ARE PRIVATE LET'S MOVE ON
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>>7913694
so not passing means you're a tumblr sjw?
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>>7913677
>I have never met or talked to a transgender person in real life and I am basing my entire perspective on things I've read about online but trust me, I have a good opinion on what the legal system should be like for this group of millions of people worldwide.

L m a O
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>>7913694
Well to be fair, susans types also demand to be called women and they're usually pretty obviously mtf. It's not just tumblr
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>>7913637
I don't know, I found the idea that 1% of people in California are trans kind of crazy from that survey
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>>7913692
Hi nim <3

>>7913695
I don't know, i don't really know you that well.
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Tips on not hating yourself and wanting to hide forever when you see your tiny disgusting few months in tits.
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>>7913704
friend chara :3
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hey whats up it's your friendly neighborhood tran ada
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"What do we call a lesbian without clipped nails?"

"Single"
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>>7913677
>literal Fascist database
>no one with social issues can get a gun


Troll pls go
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>>7913703
Probably using trans as a very large catch-all. "the trans* umbrella" or whatever its called. That might include up to 1% of California.
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>>7913704
tfw your pocket feels light
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Just play along with this asinine charade. Maybe something good will come of this, but probably not.

D-do you like pizza?
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>>7913696
No. I'm talking about the type of people that aren't even on HRT but would stand outside on a college campus with a megaphone shouting, "respect my identity" whilst putting literally zero work in.

These are the type of meme people TERF anon is basing their entire argument on and it's important we decouple ourselves from them.

You do pass though lmao
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>>7913677
>like they somehow tricked me into thinking their the opposite sex when they are very clearly not.
Ok, can we separate the discussion between passers and nonpassers? Nobody's fooled by a nonpasser that demands to be called a girl, and it's basically natural to refer to a passer as female. Go ahead and misgender them obvious transgirls and transguys all you want as long as you're not somewhere it's illegal.

>mental health records
Then you may as well force people with major depression and manic-depression to do the same. We have unions to prevent you from getting fired when you're injured, pregnant, or sick, and the benefits extend to mental health.
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>>7913681
Loser. You should take the bus or walk. It's actually cheaper, considering maintenance and gas.
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>>7913716
How dare you question my pansexual, non-binary, poly queer fem SeaWorld identity! I AM JUST AS TRANSGENDER AS YOU!! I even put it on my Facebook!!
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the Amy/Spartan bipolar thing genuinally disturbs me

And only further reinforced why you all need to be locked up.
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>>7913624
>there is less inbreeding within britons, because they inbred with inbreds.

La logique britannique est très excentrique
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>>7913714
Lollll
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>>7913677
>As far as documentation goes, even though trans people are a statistical minority, ... Potential employers and governemt officals should have access to this
Yes, let's make a mandatory trans registry that all law enforcement agencies have access to.
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my bike has a flat, boooo

but i walked to whole paycheck and bought hemp hearts and hemp milk and ate lentil soup, so still vegan. now to go to tj's for some affordable veggies

>>7913681
cars should be banned from cities. driving makes people into retarded assholes
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>>7913700
where did I mention a legal system? I said changing your sex on legal documentation throws statistics off. I'm not implying they should be legally required to keep it the same, but that changing it messes other people's facts up and I don't think they should do that.

Also, while it's true ive never met a trans person irl, i have had numerous conversations online with them. While its not a huge databank to pull from, its more conversation than id ever get running into one on the street.
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>>7913736
I added you on Leeg, by the way.
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>>7913733
Why are you wasting your time here?
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>>7913738
>>7913738
>>7913738
>>7913738
fuckin always forgetting my goat today
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>>7913742
Wait, how?
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>>7913723
These kind of people basically don't exist in significant quantities though. For the most part they're a right-wing strawman just like the feminists with an agenca to genocide all men.
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>>7913746
You gave me your IGN, like, last week.
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>>7913677
lmao you actually are a fascist

please leave the premises at once
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>tfw the most exciting thing you have to look forward to today is using your new exfoliation pads on your face
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>>7913740
Even funnier...

>I said changing your sex on legal documentation throws statistics off
>but that changing it messes other people's facts up

Didn't you just say transpeople are literally less than 1% of the population? You realize that statistics almost always have a 1-3% margin of error right? Even if every tranny in the world changed their documentation it would still barely impact the statistics and they would still be within margin of error.

You aren't very smart are you?
>where did I mention a legal system?
>I guess it comes down to pronouns and offical documentation for me. I dont think you should be allowed to change either
This is part of the legal system...
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>>7913743
Using screenshots of you guys as evidence in my presentation for college
(Anti trans dean btw)
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>>7913751
Oh
Uhhhh right.
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>>7913710
Hi friend.

>>7913717
tfw no nim pocket RN

>>7913722
Yeah, i do enjoy pizza.
BBQ chicken is my favorite.

>>7913728
Price doesn't really matter to me.
And it's not like i drive often enough for it to cost much.

>>7913738
I'm not in a mega city.
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>>7913757
>2scared2fiteme
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>>7913758
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>>7913755
Alright, I'll take it.
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>>7913754
jesus christ I love watching zhe tear people apart
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>>7913767
I can't wait until she does it to me
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>>7913726
>>7913715
>>7913737

Ok I see how that looks bad lol. I agree that a mental health database is a bad thing for certain groups to have access to. Ill admit I was naively viewing a transexual database as a purely statistical/survey centered program.

That being said, these databases can sometimes prove beneficial to society. IE. those involuntarily committed to mental hospital fail gun background checks. Not that trannys should be included on a list like this, but that some lists DO serve a purpose outside of strictly being a tool for a fascist revolution.
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>>7913677
>makes me feel stupid.
it seems that you have self esteem issues derived from a fear of being percieved as a fool.

That's your problem bruh.
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>>7913775
hey have you ever considered suicide
just a friendly suggestion
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Wow, what an auspicious coincidence; that is also my favorite kind of pizza.

H-have you heard of this game called Undertale?
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>>7913748
You are incorrect. These fucking retards are everywhere and in greater numbers than we are and or at least disgustingly more vocal. They founded the LGBTQA* club on my campus and they are literally not trans. I showed up it was like 1 nonpasser and like 5 "non-binary" or whatever girls. Like cis girls. There also 3 queer men who didn't claim to be trans but claimed they "used to be". The majority aren't psychotic enough to go megaphone style, but they'll show up to ANY rally, bet your bottom dollar they're presenting their """identity""" as trans. I'm from New York, I've watched this personally grow from one or two brats in about 2014 until now when half the damn freshman "used to be" trans.
For reference I am a TA at a SUNY
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>>7913758
>>7913764
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>>7913781
Yes
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>>7913761
what's a mega city

people should change their lifestyles to not drive cars if at all possible, cars fuckin suck and have done terrible things to our society

>>7913775
put it on the census then, at least they pretend to protect identities
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>>7913783
There's absolutely nothing wrong with non-binary people.
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>>7913783
Correction - they fractured from the official school club into the "trans Alliance" group.
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>>7913786
Okay, I'm done.
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>>7913788
but 4chan told me not to like them
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>>7913761
<3
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>>7913775
Why are you so concerned about statistics being thrown off by us anyway?
Trans people make up about 0.3% of the population, and the distribution of mtfs and ftms is pretty even, so our presence really won't be statistically significant.
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>>7913758
>>7913764
>>7913784
tfw no pupils.

>>7913787
I don't really care though.

>>7913796
Oh, okay.

>>7913800
<3
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oh for fucks sake..

OKAY I ADMIT IT, IM GAY

IM GAY JUST BY BEING A FREAKING TRANNY, BUT IM ALSO AT LEAST BI BECAUSE I HAVE INKLINGS OF ATTRACTIONS TO MEN SOMETIMES

AND IM ATTRACTED TO EVA WHICH MAKES ME GAY WHATEVER WAY YOU WANNA LOOK AT IT

IM TIRED OF THIS SHIT, IM NOT READY TO COME OUT IRL BUT WHY THE HELL WOULD I TRY TO HIDE THIS SHIT ON HERE

SCREENCAP THIS AND SHOW IT TO ME IF I EVER TRY THAT "STRAIGHTGAY" SHIT AGAIN

there

fuck
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>>7913810
gay post
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>>7913808
lil
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>>7913810
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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real girl hours who up
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>>7913773
does 2 subs include tearing into each other or is it more like waiting for a ride at the bus stop?
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>>7913775
You legitimately have no clue what you are talking about. I love it.

You failed the biology argument about this, you failed the logic discussion, you failed in your statistical argument, you failed in presenting any meaningful way why your idea of a trans-registery would have any function or purpose, and you have failed to demonstrate any actual knowledge on this subject other than, "talking to a few trans people on the internet."

Please comeback when you have a legitimate argument or want to actually discuss issues with substance rather than relying on memes.

>I heard the suicide rate is higher
LmaO you heard? Why not go read for your self before you try to form an opinion. You talk about facts and statistics but have presented zero in this entire discussion.

I'll destroy you with facts if you wanna go there.
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>>7913810
god fucking finally jesus
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>>7913810
This is gay. It's also good.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktoaj1IpTbw
help i can't stop listening
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>>7913816
tfw no lil jawline like beepboop
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>>7913773
mmm, mommy. I can't wait to kiss you deep while we lock hands and listen to good music. Let's go to an opera and dress up fancy. :3
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>>7913810
Good job.
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>>7913816
preddy girl. :3

do i pass?
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>>7913810
Things that were already know.

>>7913814
lil nim
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>>7913810
Well done, Nimmy.
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people have started staring a lot more since I started hrt, even in boy-mode. no clue if i'm not hiding boobs well, if they are having trouble gendering me or if I just look like a very feminine dude
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>>7913808
WAIT

One more question: Can we be >>90687656
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>>7913754
It's true trans people changing their sex on documents wouldn't make a big difference in statistics, but the IDEA of changing information like this is what creates a problem. If everyone filled in whatever ethnicity they wanted on govt documents, it would fuck everything up. White people shouldn't fill in "black" nor the other way around. It's not about legally requiring people to answer properly, its about the ethics of not doing so.

There are lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Once we start altering statistics to make people "feel" better (no matter how small), we're fucked.

Also to tag on, I did amend my "I dont think you should be allowed to change either" statement immediatly afterwards, changing it to "demand to change", if that makes a difference to you.

ALso also, by the time I make a posting, there have been 4 replies to my last one. I'm not going to spend hours clarifying Everyone's statements, just one or two on each reply.
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>>7913810
cool
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>>7913810
p a t i t a
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>>7913838
>but the IDEA of changing information like this is what creates a problem.
Well the kinds of issues I face now are not issues males face, even biologically. I can no longer get prostate cancer or testicular cancer. I can get breast cancer. I no longer experience male privilege, I have female privilege. I no longer experience being forced to hold in my emotions because I am a man. I am allowed to cry, be sensitive, etc.

Statistics are used to collect data on peoples experiences. If anything, it would distort the statistics more if I remained a male in the system because literally my existence is NOTHING like a males. I live as a woman and even biologically and medically my issues are now womens health issues (excluding the vagina of course).
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>>7913838
are you comparing sex and ethnicity?
are they the same in your opinion?
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I feel better when I roleplay that I'm repressing again.

It helps deal with the loss ;-;
I took my night dose and I feel better now.

I need to stop doing this
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>>7913810
>OKAY I ADMIT IT, IM GAY
We know <3
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>>7913863
i love you amy
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>>7913820
i know i was starting to get on peoples nerve

im sorry
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>>7913838
being scared by ideas
being scared by feeling stupid

dude go and get therapy.
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>>7913826
>wants to be comfy with zhe and be her bestie

Kind amade me shiver a bit
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>>7913871
it's ok
just don't be afraid to speak your mind to your sisters^^
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What does Eva look like????????????
nim's gf Eva
>>7913816
looking cute! I like your hair!
you look like you're filling out, the last picture of you i saw you were v. v. thin lol
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>>7913873
blush for me, love.
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>>7913871
answer truthfully:

Is there a scenario where Nim would suck off a man's cock ?
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>>7913877
>What does Eva look like????????????
A crying girl
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>>7913837
what
?
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>>7913810
witnessed
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>>7913887
F-friends?
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>>7913758
>>7913764
>>7913784
>>7913808
ive got scary eyes
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>>7913877
she's tiny and has curly hair that's good for fluffin :)
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>>7913819
Tbh you're sorta right. I don't know where I stand on this arguement. That's why i'm here. I formulated an opinion based on what i've heard and people i've spoken to. I've decided to visit this board to hear people's opinions about my opinion and in the end, find a position im confident with.

I dont use a lot of statistics because I don't have good sources for them, which is why I use phrases like "ive heard that". I was hoping people could use credible sources to counter these "heard" statistics, but nobody has.

Also the vast majority of "statistics" ive talked about is a generalization for government surveys leading to databases, not legitimate percentages or supported facts.

By the end of the day I'll either have a well formulated opinion on trans people, or ill continue my life without ever thinking about them again. I figured it was worth a shot, considering how friendly and welcoming the LGBT community is
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Maybe I should try getting antidepressants
This shit is starting to suck
>>7913810
"The rumor come out: does nim is gay?"
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>>7913829
>implying you look anything like that
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>>7913886
idgi
>>7913898
you guys should shoop a picture of the two of you together lol
i wanna see a picture though @_@
how r u today nim??
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>implying i don't wanna give beepbeep a hugg
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>>7913893
Sure.
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>>7913907
you might get some pictures in august

we'll see how we both look by then

im okay, i got a bunch of stuff from amazon!

but im still waiting for my apple cider vinegar to come in so i can do my clay mask :(
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>>7913788
To be clear, I am not sure I buy non-binary as a concept but I don't grief people over that unless they give me reason to or expose themselves as a Tumblr gender spectrum archetype (the majority). But my gripe is with snowflake culture.

It cuts both ways, trannies can be just as annoying so my hatred isn't exclusive to non trans claiming trans (that is the majority of my gripe) - it's the behavior.
My first semester as a TA (2015) I heard a Transgirl (like probably pre HRT early early transition) on the first day ask the professor in a full blown man voice for extra time to do her makeup so she could pass in public better as it was her first class in the day and she was transgender. The professor said and this is verbatim. "i think it's beautiful you're taking this life step forward, but like every other girl in this class, you can wake up earlier if that is important to you."


>>7913819
Send a letter to a politician or school faculty :^)
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>>7913897
aren't you old like me

be realistic? it's estrogen not a flux capacitor

>>7913904
try fluoxetine, it promotes neurogenesis and works better than most other ssris (it's possible something new works as well/better but i doubt it, they just don't make much money on old drugs so it doesn't get pushed by the reps)
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>wanting to anonpost and forgetting to take off your handle and being unable to erase it.

welp, that's my life in a nutshell.
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>>7913868
Hugg
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>>7913899
>Tbh you're sorta right.
I mean I have literally encountered every conceivable argument for AND against transexuality in the social, biological, and metaphysical spheres.

I provided you with no statistics because you provided zero statistics and your claims could be popped simply through Socratic process rather than direct evidence (because you never claimed any direct evidence, just abstraction without rationality).

What kind of statistics do you want? I can prove to a high degree of certainty that transexuality is a medical congenital condition if you want. I can show you statistically that transgender people are no more a suicide risk than the average person when their living conditions are normalized with normal people (family acceptance, workplace discrimination, sexual assault, etc).

You have to understand that transgender people are so widely hated and discriminated against in our society unless you are extremely fortunate you will never get the same living opportunities as a cis person. All of the suicide and mental health statistics are a product of our culture and the way it treats transpeople. If transgender people have access to healthcare to treat our condition and social acceptance we are literally no more disturbed or mentally ill than your normal working class individual.

So what do you want me to prove to you? I can dump statistics and form arguments but what do you actually even care or want to know about? Numbers without direction are useless.
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>>7913880
o////o
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>>7913924
>aren't you old like me
how old
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>>7913925
>going anon in a circlejerk
>ever

Embrace your faults.
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>>7913934
yeah, who would ever go anon in a circlejerk
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>>7913933
32
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>>7913857
That's a fair point. I think I keep going back to mtf men who are either pre-hrt or barely invested. I feel like these people would be differentiated enough from women that claiming to be the opposite sex would be misleading. I can see how mtf people both physically and socially transitioned wouldnt affect statistics very much.

>>7913862
No, it was merely an example of lying on official government surveys/documents. Surveyors often don't take into account people lying about their ethnicity on official surveys (how could they?). If every asian person claimed they were pacific islander on an official survey, it would fuck shit up. Something similar would happen if a large percentage of men claimed to be female. You can get away with lying about either, but doing so messes up the programs the use that data.

>>7913872
Not sure how I feel scared of ideas or feeling stupid. Im trying to have a civil debate to clarify my position on the topic. Please stop projecting.
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>>7913942
wtf 30s isnt old

like 50s is old
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>>7913932
o////////////////////////o

cuteeee
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>>7913944
>like 50s is old
Wtf Nim, Sass is still here, you know.
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>>7913933
how old are you, nim?
also, good luck with your skin care stuff!
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It's so real to me,
Anthropology!

Yeah, they've had a couple of fights.
Nobody's perfect, you seeeee!

Still, I say I'm born with the rights to study whatever I pleeeaaase!
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>>7913924
it's not that type of jealousy but nevermind it was just a rant. i never wanted a reply or anyone's sympathy. And I don't know who you are so I don't know what your age is.

I'm 37 and i have a realistic idea of what I have to do to transition. I'm not doing his to live out some feminine fantasy or get fucked or any fetish.

i know I'll never be conventionally beautiful or petite or desired by popular esteem and I don't care. I'm doing this for myself, but I seem to have got caught up in this make believe place.

I really need to quit.
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>>7913953
im 20

thank you so much <3

my skin is awful so i hope the stuff can really help it improve

it'll make me look more feminine i think
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>>7913930
Hnmmm. I am skeptical of this but not refuting it. I would like proof of lower suicide risk when accepted to the degree that it matches the normal statistics (4% attempted with one in six successful). I don't buy that. Transwomen have something like a 65% attempt rate but they muddy the statistics by including trans men to post the 41% trans gender attempted suicide. And I think that's still low. I think certainly you'd be insane to not think that acceptance and tolerance lowers that figure significantly, but I don't think it will or could ever possibly match cis people. Anecdotal, I'm still suicidal and people accept me. It's creepy actually how tolerant this little city is. Anywhere outside this bubble sucks, but I still HATE life. I'm trying my best to change that, but I've already tried once to kill myself and i had been shown nothing but acceptance. Maybe self acceptance was my issue idk. But last year I snapped.
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YES YES I SHAVED MY LEGS COMPLETELY THEY'RE SO SMOOTH OH MY FUCK I FEEL SO GIRLY NOW ITS GAH IT'S SO GOOD <33

>>7913649
chara burpfic?
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>tfw the oldest person here
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>>7913655
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>>7913904
>"The rumor come out: does nim is gay?"
ngl this makes me laugh every time I read it
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>>7913912
>clay mask
ohhh where? for ur face or your hair?

i need to do some facial masques myself desu
what did u get from amazon?
>you might get some pictures in august
THATS A LONG TIME FROM NOW NIM
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>>7913963
hope it goes well!
hrt by itself has made my skin a lot nicer that I was expecting. now i pretty much just have rosacea on and around my nose, no acne or anything
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>>7913703
Could be many moved there...
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>>7913943
I'm not projecting and you're not having a civil discussion. your whole premise is based on the non recognition of transgendered women as women. you continually show you have neither scientific, metaphysic or logical data to backup your "feelings" and "ideas" other than your "feelings" and "ideas".

i said it once and I'll say it again, go fuck yourself, your painted zebra horse and your mother.
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>>7913975
it's for my face, it's supposed to help keep your complexion clear and make your pores smaller

this is the one i got:
https://www.amazon.com/Aztec-Secret-Indian-Healing-Cleansing/dp/B0014P8L9W

i haven't used it yet though so i don't know if it's good or not!
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I'm irrelevant should I become a tripfag tho y/n
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>>7914008
Yes, you can even have a trip of mine if you want!
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>>7913950
sass is dead though.

>>7914008
trippance doesn't give you relevance.
gi and be hapoy and live your life somewhere else. really
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ok im heading out for a bit
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guess I won't be getting higher spiro anytime soon

he claims my t will go down in a couple months, is that valid?
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>>7914008
anyone can trip
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>>7914008
>should I become a tripfag tho y/n
yes, mtfg is desperate for new characters at the moment
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>>7913993
yeah hrt has made my skin softer but it's also revealed my hyperpigmentation a lot more :(

i also have really bad rosacea, im going to a dermatologist for it soon and the little black dots on my lips so hopefully it gets fixed x-x

i think having nice skin could really help me passing-wise, i need all the help i can get in that department!
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>>7914008
I mean, if you want. It's kinda fun.
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>>7914019
How do you feel about this? >>7913810
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>>7914019
im not sure, i would think so though?

/hrtgen/ would probably know better!

no need to feel sad eva, your t is probably going down daily! <333
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>>7914032
that's a good idea, thanks emi ><
>>7914028
^^
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>>7914026
>>7914023
>>7914021
>>7914013
Lmao k I'ma try to make one
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It is just Beanboy.
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>>7913971
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>>7914019
~

>>7914038
Okay good luck! If I should search one for you, just ask.
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>>7914050
thank you gloomy ><
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>>7914019
how long have you been on spiro? i kept the same amount (200) for a few months and I only started seeing a big difference around the third month. T went from 250~ish to 45 between month 2 and 3
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>>7914050
should be fine as long as i remember how to use tripcode generators kek
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>>7914058
I'm on 100 spiro my t is at 300, I've been on 100 for like a month and half I think, not sure
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>>7914053
You're welcome~

>>7914062
I use Merikens Tripcode Engine, it's comfy~
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I should probably get one of those someday
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Reminder that the parasites in cat shit is believed to exist within 32% of americans and 90% of latin americans. Common symptons for men are lack of inhibition and common symptons for women are promiscuity as well as personality changes for both.
Everyones brains are wired wrong nowadays and thats why the planet is so fucked.
Also, kill all cats.
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>>7914071
Did your doctor say no to increasing it? You should try looking for another doctor if you can then. In 45 days it should suppress it fairly well, but everyone's body is different. Spiro can take up to 90 or more days to completely settle in and really start testicular atrophy and t level suppression blah blah blah

tldr get new doctor
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>>7914078
what? a zhe to wear around?
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>>7914078
A ferret or a Tripcode? :O
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>>7913928
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>>7914071
yeah, if your endo doesn't want to go higher there's not much to do. don't worry though, at least give it another month and a half
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I'm sad and sleepy...
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>>7914092
me too.
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>>7914081
I can't, he's like the only guy around, maybe it will go down more...
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>>7914080
theyre so cute tho
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>>7913963
also, why did you choose a green facial mask instead of a different one? kind of clueless with this
>>
>>7914092
what's wrong, gloomy? you been bitten by the dysphoria bug?
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>>7914095
Yeah well so are succubus and they eat your fucking soul.
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>find fb group for rooms/apartments in Anna's city
>one of my classmates is also in that group
wtf this is terrifying
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>>7914102
dolphins are good judges of character
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>>7914102
can I have a succu gf plz?
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>>7914106
WTF. I'm watching his latest video right now. Stop stalking me.
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>>7914093
Maybe you should go to bed. I still have to wait half an hour for my hormones :<

>>7914101
I feel lonely mostly :(
And I'm worried about my future and stuff
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>>7914080
I've never lived in a house with cats, because of allergies.
>tfw my genetic defect saved me from the feline menace
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>>7914111
:(
b-but i'm a fan of reviewbrah too
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:(
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>>7914119
I thought you were a normie.
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>>7914083
both lol
>>7914082
I have one ordered it gets here soon
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>>7914080
cats have been people's buddies since ancient time, they catch rats and mice which protected grain supplies hence why we are best buddies even today
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>>7914119
>>7914121
wendys fish sandwich
I wonder when he will inevitably transition
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>>7914126
this, kittys are buddis
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>>7914117
>>7914126
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasmosis
>Up to half of the world's population is infected by toxoplasmosis but have no symptoms.[8] In the United States about 23% are affected[9] and in some areas of the world this is up to 95%.[1] About 200,000 cases of congenital toxoplasmosis occur a year.[10] Charles Nicolle and Louis Manceaux first described the organism in 1908. In 1941 transmission during pregnancy from a mother to a child was confirmed.[11]

This shit is real and theyre downplaying the symptons, cats are a goddamn walking contagion breach.
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>all this constant posting of headpats and cuddling makes me want to be with someone again
No, stop it you awful succubi

I want to die alone
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>>7914121
How come? ;-;
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Any red flags when buying makeup? Like are there nuanced differences between buying for a MAN face vs Female?
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>>7914112
I'm going to workout and clear my head.
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>>7914138
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>>7914112
>And I'm worried about my future and stuff
well, the future is a pretty scary place

try not to get too discouraged though - the world isn't quite so scary that you need to hide from it...not all the time, anyway
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>>7914141
You seem too nice.
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>>7914135
we are buddies forever, it's cool that they kinda just domesticated themselves, they just started going after mice and rats which are really bad so people let them stick around, symbiotic relationship ^^
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>>7914145
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>>7914151
delet
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>>7914126
cats domesticated themselves.
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>>7914151
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>>7914138
cats are buddi
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>>7914148
Is niceness a normie thing?
T-Thanks btw
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lemme try this
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>>7914138
birdy had better watch out when lewding with jaime
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lmao it works
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>>7914161
>>7914163
>>7914164
For fucks sake they are infecting us with parasites who are messing up our brains.
Wake up you goddamn sheeple.
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So do I pass or am I just a femboy
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>>7914162
yeah, it's really cool ^^

I heard cats used to be desert/arid type animals so that's why they don't drink much water
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>>7914178
yes
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>>7914174
just because they want free food and tummy pats
its not even a big deal desu
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>>7914178
you pass as an imageless post
well done
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>>7914167
Yes. Try bullying someone now.
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>>7914125
I can search a tripcode for you or give you one of the ones I already have~

>>7914144
Mhh~ okay. I really don't like exercising, but luckily I've already done it for today >_<

>>7914147
It's super scary :(
I don't know what I should do. I don't think I can do it...
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>>7914186
>its not even a big deal desu
are you braindead yes it is
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>>7914186
>its not even a big deal desu
PARASITES
IN YOUR BRAIN
ALTERING YOUR FUCKING MIND
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So I've been self-medding for 1.5 years and my E is only half what it should be, like 96 can'tremembertheunits

When I eventually reach appointment time with Nottingham GIC (I'm UK) and eventually get to see an endo and have my levels adjusted properly, will I then get any feminisation I should have had had my levels been correct the whole time? Or is there a certain 'window' for stages of female development after which it's impossible / less likely for higher estrogen levels to rectify the issues (e.g. my fat redistribution still hasn't kicked in because low E)?
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>>7914190
But that would be mean and I wouldn't gain anything from making people upset or angry with me

Can I just not be a normie while also being nice to people?
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I want to be a ferret.
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>>7914193
eh, the world is about to melt from global warming scouring all life, and nuclear war could happen at any moment.
getting done in by toxiplasmosis is one of the more peaceful ways for humanity to go out.

>>7914201
meh
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>>7914208
Pat ferret Gloomy.
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come on bobbers, grow!!!!!
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>>7914205
Nonsense. You will gain sacred knowledge and astonishing powers.
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>>7914219
I want to cuddle :(
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>>7914214
it's one of the most grim too
you shouldn't want to go out at all

why would you want to care for an animal that's cute for like 5 months before it turns into a fat asshole and shows no love or affection to you if it gives you a terrible parasite
why would you even want a cat at all parasite or not
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>>7914187
If I post with a trip or a picture I'll be huggboxed please I just want honesty
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>>7913930
What you're saying about society rejecting trans people does make sense. Accounting for social acceptance is a factor that's probably pretty hard to account for.


Something ive been trying to figure out:

If a man does nothing to change his appearance, but claims to be a woman; he is still considered a man.

However, if a man underwent advanced surgery to reconstruct his body to function as a female in all instances(not currently possible); he would be considered a woman.

These are the two opposing extremes of transpeople. Where then, do men become women? It seems the entire scale is a gray zone of disagreeing opinions.

I cant give an exact spot this transition to being a woman occurs for me, but it's way towards the upper end. And if anyone falls before this point, I cant fully accept they're a woman, all I can do is treat them with respect as I would anyone else.
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>>7914227
Cudd ferret Gloomy!
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I should search a new tripcode, but I don't care anymore.

>>7914203
Natal females get most of their early breast growth at relatively low E2 levels. E2 levels don't go up higher until menstruation is soon to happen. The key is keeping T levels down in the basement.
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>>7914223
This is just a silly convo but I actually feel like I'm missing out

>>7914222
iktf
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>>7914229
well uh
we cant tell if you pass if you don't give us an image
I'll hit you up honestly, just post one.
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>>7914191
You're such a sweetheart. take care. :)
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>>7914228
>you shouldnt want to go out at all
but I am a trann, its kind of indicative of being trann at all tbqh
>why would you even want a cat at all parasite or not
so cuuuute
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>>7914239
WHAT MAKES THIS SO SILLY? DO YOU THINK THIS IS JOKE?
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>>7914228
Who the fuck are you?
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>>7914236
Cudd ferret Zna? :o

>>7914245
Thank you, that's very nice of you~
I'll try my best I guess >.<
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>>7914251
;-; k-kinda but i also kinda feel like it's very serious and i need to toughen up
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gotta control that narrative yo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4ZxBdIDYB4
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>>7914191
>I don't know what I should do. I don't think I can do it...
you're a really smart person, it's not that you couldn't do certain things if you wanted to - and it's always better to be doing something, rather than nothing

whatever you do, be careful, gloomy - it's easy for all your ambition and hope and dreams to wither and die when you go full ropsje and cocoon yourself away from the world

also, you'd be depriving the world of gloomy, which is a pretty mean to do anyway
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>>7914265
>>7914265
new
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>>7914257
i just made a trip because i feel like it kek
get own't fagt

>>7914250
>but I am a trann, its kind of indicative of being trann at all tbqh
wanting to die?
fuck is wrong wit chu
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>>7914262
Hit me with your best shot.
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>>7914260
! I'm not a ferret though.
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>>7914270
>wanting to die?
>fuck is wrong wit chu
where do you think you are?
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>>7914283
christ why is every trans person so suicidal and depressed actually
well shouldnt bother asking why but it's odd to me
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>>7914294
gender dysphoria, we're suicidally depressed because we know we arent women
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