Night edition
• Informed consent providers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Forward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Clinics.pdf
• Makeup for beginners: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
• Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
• Correct hormone levels: http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
• Checking your levels: http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
• Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
• Transition time lines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
• Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
• IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
Previous thread >>7740821
Neptune's thread
maybe it will be ok, maybe I'll find someone I can love and spend the rest of my life with.
I wish the world didn't suck so much
>>7742606
>Would you believe me if I told you I've slept with people without having sex that night?
The last time I did this was on a couch and it was really uncomfortable. Worth tho
>>7742654
I'll make ur anus tired
>tfw no one on OKC replies to my messages anymore
This is hopeless
I'll just die alone
>>7742662
why do we have to treat these beautiful animals so awfully :(
>>7742665
>>7742669
It feels like OKC is all or nothing in terms of getting attention. Occasionally I get like 5 people that all want to talk to me at once, and every other time I get nothing.
>>7742663
Can anybody find me..
Somebody to love.
(You) fucked yourself
(You) chose your fate
(You) changed your mind when it's too late
Your self-deceit, your worst mistake
>>7742675
Have you tried Plenty of Fish before?
I might try that place if I don't get any messages within the next couple of weeks
>>7742671
I know. They are sweet creatures :(
>>7742677
I'll love you, anon.
>>7742660
That's all any of us can ask for. We can do it, we have to.
>>7742677
probably not
I wonder if I'm ever gonna have a stable relationship.
I think a lot of my fumbles and stuff have been necessary for me to learn more about love and stuff but I would like something a little longer than 2 weeks.
>>7742669
how does online dating work anyways? you just meet up with people and then see if you like each other? idk why but it always felt weird to me and nothing ever worked out.
hi mtfg
i stopped taking my tranny pills the psych suggested
i was on them for a month and stopped a week ago and i feel like shit
i want to die
hi
>>7742671
they taste good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63NNuG-6-hQ
>>7742689
Mistakes are stepping stones to getting things right. Never regret what you've experienced, just appreciate what it is you've taken and learned from them.
You're worth it.
<3
>>7742691
Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding, but it sounds like you quit on your own, but from your word choice, you may have meant that your psych suggested you stop HRT. Which one is it?
>>7742690
You chat with the person before to get to know them and see if there's any compatibility, then you meet up and see if you like the person and want to keep dating
>>7742689
maybe stop dating people from 4chan at least don't get them to post here
>>7742696
oh sorry
my psych suggested taking the hormones to deal with dysphoria
i expressed interest in stopping because idk how to tell my family and she said to stop for a little while and see how it goes
>>7742698
I am aware, deary. I can't quite control people once they figure out where I post, though.
>>7742694
<3
Still makes me smile when you say I'm worth it
>>7742691
can someone lay down the reasoning behind why a lot of psychs do this?
>>7742701
sorry
>>7742705
autism
>>7742701
Knowing that makes me feel gooey inside.
>>7742681
I haven't. I started using tinder and got a bit of attention there but not a whole lot.
>>7742699
you can keep taking them and tell them later
>>7742705
I can speculate a little. If anon is a new patient of the psych the psych is gonna want to see what they can do with anon's natural state, isolating them from the influences of other meds.
>>7742705
Not trutrans enough.
>>7742697
well I never had luck with that. it's just so weird to me to get somebody to know over text when it's clearly about dating. no body/face language makes it hard to see if somebody likes you.
>>7742713
how long until it becomes too noticeable though?
my nipples and chest started to get sore after a month or so and it made me panic
hey dewds :-)
>>7742722
Transbians are the worst.
>>7742727
Those are two cis girls.
>>7742722
could have said nsfw
>>7742721
if they see you without a shirt probably ~3 months
if you keep shirt on like 6+ probably
A transgirl messaged me on fetlife and asked if I'm ok with transgirls and anal. And asked if I wanna meet for some casual fun.
I'm a virgin what does this mean/what do I do
>>7742731
I was talking about the poster.
>>7742735
She wants no strings attached your dick in her ass.
>>7742736
Its two cis girls though.
>>7742737
>>7742742
Transbians...
>>7742721
I'm 3 months in and it's only slightly noticable right now (unless you touch them) but I'm super skinny so I don't think people like me tend to get a lot of growth
>>7742744
They don't have dicks.
kara is my wife
>>7742745
There's always implants.
>>7742750
Ewww
>>7742752
hilanna
how you
>>7742750
( ͠- ﹏ ͞- )
it's ok to be transbian
>>7742752
>>7742755
Borderline anorexics can't have real bewbs.
>>7742752
easy to say when you aren't going to be stuck with AAs on a huge ribcage forever :(
>>7742739
Her profile says she's a lesbian though and is all my cd photos. Does that change anything?
Also aren't I not really suitable for the casual sex stuff being a virgin (not that she knows that)
Kara is single and ready to fucking kill myself.
>>7742764
>Also aren't I not really suitable for the casual sex stuff being a virgin
You aren't.
I doubt anyone looking for casual anal is gonna want to take the time to properly help you learn how to have sex.
Anyone else consistently sabotage their own chances at happiness?
>>7742766
interesting
>>7742750
Nah, I'll wait a couple years before considering that. I'd be happy with an A-B cup that I can use to trick people with padding and makeup tricks
Tfw no casual anal bf(gf)
>>7742775
>There's an easier solution to this
Well you could always get fat. But let's face it, even with whoremoans and proper diet you're still going to end up with itty-bitty titties anyway.
>>7742778
>I can use to trick people with padding and makeup tricks
Good luck!
>>7742773
happiness will only happen when it can
>>7742775
if its implant under the muscle most results i've seen look very good
it goes without saying that you don't go overboard
>>7742776
I will not be rused.
>>7742788
No killing yourself.
>>7742788
I'm not clever enough to ruse people
>went out with friends yesterday for to hang out for night
>5others sides me(2 females,1male,1ftm,1q)
>queerfriend whom I haven't seen since hs decides to chat me up
>asks me what's happened since then, whats changed
>all lips,tits, and hips nao.spiro+estrogen obviously
>notice ways they've changed since then
>dress with eyeliner 'chinstrap beard' ponytail and combat boots
>much better looking before time 'fuckedtheirshit'
>they decide to put legs against mine mid conversation, putting hand on leg
>tried dropping not-so-subtle hints not interested
>mention I gotta go drive back up to SF and leave now
>they decide to mlady it up and offer driving me in their primus
>decide to take ride from drunk female friend instead and risk being roadkill
Not sure desu if that 'friend' was repress trans, diy hon, or just a comfy dude in a moomoo. All I know is I know why I stopped being around them after graduation. Worst part is they're apparently "good buddies" with my ftm friend who was planning on being my supposed hookup for dick anytime I need it in the future.
Was I set up? Did someone try to leave me like bait for that mangirlpig?
>>7742793
Trannies lead a hard life.
>>7742669
Is your profile good?
Are your pictures good?
Are you attractive?
You need at least two of the three
>>7742785
>don't go overboard
That's not the tranny way.
>>7742794
hugg
>>7742802
Being their waitress would be hell.
>>7742783
I feel like there's also a place that exists between anorexic and fat. A mythical place where no tranny seems to go
>>7742760
Breast tissue is its own thing, not "fat"
Skinny women can have large busts
It's all genetic
>>7742789
Fine I'll kill other people. In a video game. With a vengeance.
>>7742799
With name being Greg, chinstrap beard, no hrt, and addressed as 'they', I want to doubt tranny. I really doo
>>7742814
Thattagirl
Be manly with me and pretend kill people IRL with toy guns
>>7742699
You can take hormones for awhile before permanent damage is done. I'd honestly continue if I were you, but that's just me. I've been on HRT for almost 4 years now, so I may not be the best person to ask.
>>7742821
>tfw real girl
: )
I'm a happy warm but rn ngl
>>7742833
>>tfw real girl
Are you implying that vagina is the qualifier for "real girl"?
>>7742836
In most places legally yes
>>7742836
No, you did not read anons post
Go home arrison you are drunk
>>7742836
It's not the girl on the outside, but the girl on the inside that counts.
>>7742841
So the uterus is the qualifier?
girls are gross
>>7742794
>>7742840
>Go home arrison you are drunk
It's true.
>>7742844
existing is gross
>>7742844
I'm gross, why am I not a girl
>>7742853
yes
>>7742843
No what counts is not being a literal autistic.
But you can always be an anime girl.
>>7742844
Do trannies have cooties pretrans or is that caused by hormones?
>>7742853
Meh, it's not so bad, really. It's easy even. You just don't not exist and boom. You did it.
tfw cleaned all of my pet's habitats recently and they seem happier and they're all sleeping.
I wish I was a mom
>>7742862
your a mom for your pets
>>7742862
you can be a mom just get a boy to breed you
>>7742870
No amount of semen will make us mothers. Trust me.
>>7742870
i want this dress omg
>>7742870
how do i do this :(
>>7742871
I believe in trying
>>7742875
That's pretty
>>7742865
:3
yr sweet
i hope we can buy a fur farm and be mink mommies together someday
>>7742870
i'm barren of eggs
>>7742874
gross
>>7742880
why does asia get all the cute clothes desu
>>7742879
Could you explain how just a single attempt could be performed?
>>7742879
>>7742887
Oh I didn't mean a single attempt
Quite the opposite in fact
I need to start showering in the morning more often. It's so nice to feel like I'm 10 minutes from passing out where I stand and not have to decide between staying up longer or being a disgusting slob.
>>7742883
don't hurt the minks :(
>>7742894
well we would have to spay and neuter them
>>7742699
>she said to stop for a little while and see how it goes
Yeah, you'll be back on them in a month or two. Dysphoria is a bitch that bites hard. Even if I detransitioned and presented male, I'd stay on hormones.
>>7742893
I hate showering in the mornings, but that's mostly due to how long it takes for my hair to naturally dry. I tend to aim for evenings for that reason.
>>7742888
hahaha! what is she doing in the car in the foreground?
>>7742887
when a mommy and a daddy love eachother very much
i'm straight enough
>>7742902
Driving away of course.
Gangbangs are hard work and even harder on your legs. You gotta keep them in the air for so long.
Prepare for trouble
>>7742910
And make it double
I think bed bath and beyond might be the cure for depression
im not cool and I never will be
im not going to be in an punk band
im not going to be an artist
im not going to be a revolutionary
im not going to be an activist
im not going to change the world
im not going to read all the books and know everything
im going to eventually get a ged and get some shitty job and a shitty apartment and be a really boring person and die
i suck
i don't feel like a real person, just a boring thing that exists doing nothing
i just feel like im weird in alll the worst ways
i need to get another therapist and yell about how I hate my parents for an hour and pretend that Im going to get some epiphany one day
i don't know why im here on this website I hate talking to people I don't know all day everyday
theres nothing really wrong with me to fix, i just suck and im lazy and think im too good for the world
I've always sucked
I didn't have no friends in high school because I was misunderstanding or even because I was trans, im just a genuinely dull person
>>7742921
misunderstood*
>>7742705
They know you'll be back if you really need them. It's a test of sorts.
From the short time when my AAs were messed up while switching form Spiro to Depo Provera, I can tell I need to stay on HRT. I was still on E that whole time.
>>7742843
I had one of them until I was almost 40.
>>7742886
They are willing to spend on them.
someone reply to my whining
>>7742933
i just did fagit
>>7742934
>>7742915
there's something wrong with everyone
i think yr really cool and you inspire me
I respect you and want you to be happy <3
>>7742938
>>7742921
i don't think yr boring
Sitting here trying to figure out how to program a PWM generator over the I2C bus. I now have a migraine. I over did it. I may feel better, but my body is still hobbled by lack of ATP production.
>>7742943
all i do is say hugg
>>7742946
you say hugg a lot but that's not all you do
>>7742915
Tbh
Most people are pretty lame and boring
It's very rare for anyone to be truely unique
You're a trans; that's the way you're special mayb
>>7742959
i know
I need to program the LED strings to go on and off in a weird sequence, but the existence of C's ability to mask off all but the low 16 bits of an integer makes this easy. It will mean the average power fluctuation will only be only the amperage of one string.
kek
https://www.patreon.com/posts/ultra-chicken-8078735
>>7742961
So, you are aware and it still bothers you?
If you want to be special, have you considered what can can do/learn/become that will set you apart from the rest?
hurt me
>want to attentonwhore on stream chat i frequent
>not cute enough
fugg
>>7742972
ops
>>7742972
Get cute?
Become cute?
Makeup?
Plastic surgery?
Filters?
Lighting?
junis really a nice person
>>7742969
im not good at stuff
>>7742974
ya
im working on it senpai
it'll take some time
why is it so impossible to scrobble for last.fm on iphone
i feel better now
i needed to get that out of my system
>>7742977
ladt fm is a really shitty website desu, i doesn't work very well in general
>>7742980
you're right
it feels better to be untalented than lazy though and i like self pity
>>7742971
never ovaries
a friend asked me "think anyone enjoys giving blowjobs?".
I can't believe there are people like this
Holy fuck, I've been dissociating all goddamn day and there's no reason for it because today wasn't even stressful. What the fuck is wrong with me???
>>7742989
i don't get how you wouldn't like it
>>7742967
>3k a month
>36k a year to just keep doing what you're doing no strings attached
Yeah I think it's time to be a little philanthropic and throw your fans a bone
>>7742989
I think females are programed to like giving them. It would help keep a guy satisfied and around, but limit getting pregnant. That would be pro survival of her offspring.
i hate my dad so much
i keep giving him all these chances and hoping he'll change and he never does
like i think i must be wrong about him, hes just stressed or whatever and he's always an asshole when I try to fix things
im. emotional now if u haven't noticed
>>7743011
grace im. sorry I act like a sperg to you
>>7742989
blowjobs are disgusting
>>7743020
hugg
>>7743024
hugg
you now that we didn't do *hugs* was something that set us apart from other trans communities online
i changed all that :^)
>>7743015
awh :c im sorry
what kind of stuff is he doing
>>7743026
yeah i know you invented hugg
i didn't know people didn't do virtual hugs before
that sounds horrible and lonely
hugg
>>7743022
wtf
sup nerds my shower was good and long
i'm gay
>>7743031
its not that bad
he's just being an asshole
>>7743050
does he hurt your mom?
>>7743055
i really don't know what happened between them
I've seen him get physical but never really hurt her
might just not see it
they haven't had a big fight in a while though
he's just being like your everyday prick lately
>>7743011
36k a year is not a lot for working wages... presuming this individual is dedicating all of their time to their art...
>>7743043
Oh, just being suicidal and feeling antipathy toward existence atm. This is actually a very aggressive form of DPDR that I rarely experience.
How are you?
>>7743061
as the comic gets more popular she will get more money on her patreon
questionable content gets 120k a year
>>7743022
well you're wrong
hurt me please
>>7743061
It's well above minimum wage and enough to comfortably live and focus on what you love. Sure, it can't compete with the person having gone into business and gotten a traditional career as an office twat, but then they'd have less time to work on their art.
When you do a career like art you are making the conscious decision to trade material wealth for personal wealth.
They're getting paid on a monthly basis, I find the need to then /sell/ the product your fans are funding to the fans questionable.
Hey, pay me so I can make this thing and then you can buy it.
I dunno what their supporters do get for their support, perhaps they DID get access to what they made and this is merely a public post non-supporters can see. That's fine then.
i feel like if I ever try to do stuff its fake
like im. not driven by genuine passion or whatever
i just want to do something
i know im. being stupid i just want someone to agree
I really like this picture
>>7743079
i feel like that's normal
often you don't really like something before you get into it
most people don't instantly know their calling without trying stuff
that's one of the reasons schools should encourage creativity and art and not obsess with marketable stem skills
>>7743081
>ywn be that happy
>>7743076
Part of the patron agreement I had with my two art patrons is they got first dibs on purchasing my paintings and at a discount. Given the value of the paintings they bought at discount, I came out well ahead. They had to have felt supporting the arts was very important.
>>7743085
Yeah definitely about school
i feel like every trivial thing would be so much better without the profit motive
can we get the revolution done with
>>7743092
one day comrade
we'll do our best
>>7743081
im so happy that this animal exists
>>7743092
Profits are needed as a motivation, but excessive profits often are harmful. A balance between socialism and capitalism is needed.
>>7743102
Every once and awhile I see them on my farm. Whatever the type it is, it's a little dark brown thing.
>>7743106
its been a 100 years of this stuff lol social democracy doesn't work unless you leech of off hundreds of other countries
>>7743106
you should read more about socialism if you think that honestly
i don't want to be rude but you're using the word wrong
Periodic reminder that trips ruined this place.
>>7743067
shit, are you going to be okay? do you need to talk to someone?
>>7743116
My partner is going to chat with me on Skype now, thankfully. Thanks for taking notice of me, though. I was getting really sad.
>>7743123
hugg
i was making dinner, sorry for taking a little long to reply
>>7743076
Selling goods to your patreon supporters is dubious. At 36k/year, I'd say she should focus on her art and offer her supporters the product for free, or at least discounted enough that she would break even.
hi cuties
>>7743139
Hi Anon, how are you?
good night friends
>>7743145
good night
sleep (mega)
this is so weird
this ftm looks like a boy pre-T
what the fuck is it the hair?
also damm earlobe piercing helps a lot with looking girlier
>>7743155
>tfw can't switch bodies with an frm
>>7743126
hugg
It's okay. I'm glad you did at all. I was feeling pretty low so any contact is appreciated.
goodnight /mtfg/
Morning everyone c:
>>7743176
pedo
>>7743176
Goodnight
>>7743179
morning
>>7743181
sheen is a cinnamon roll trip you cant bully her its not allowed
That feeling when no bf with a thicc cock to throw me down on his bed and pound my butt
;___;
>>7743202
>tfw this is what I wait for every day before bedtime
>>7743205
I like it when he calls me good girl too
ah I'm degen
craving snuggs
>>7743212
me too, want snuggs bad
>>7743212
i know this feel
I just wanted to say to all you trans girls out there you will find love and a man to care for you. My gf who's trans and I met through Tindr. I went through a horrific divorce with my ex husband and basically i ended up being used to the 10th degree.
We met and we love each other. She's amazing. We workout we laugh we sit up at night and watch South Park or get tipsy and let it all out. We have amazing passionate sex and I love her to the ends of the earth and back.
We both lean on one another and I've never been more blessed than to have her in my life. Today is her birthday. She's 32. And I'm getting her an Xbox One since she's a COD fan and it'll be great to see her face light up. We're both quirky and kids at heart. We've both been throufh so much darkness i cannot even describe it. Her mother died when she was young. Her brother committed suicide over being gay. Her dad was abusive and went mental. We've come from such dark places only to one day find each other. I don't care what happens in the world. I don't care about the bad. All I care about after a 12 hour shift is rushing home to hold her tight to kiss her softly in her sleep. To feel her warmth next to mine in bed. You'll find love one day and true acceptance. <3
>>7743224
>you will find love and a man to care for you
w-why not a woman
>>7743224
this is sweet af
but i want to be the girl to care for someone, to prop them up through the dark times and to protect them when it gets too muhc.
nnh
>>7743230
Anyone <3 doesn't matter what sex what matters is the person.
>>7743233
:)
happy birthday to your girlfriend
i'm glad you two are happy together
>>7743232
My gf cares for me like no other. She's carried me through so much. My mother is terminally ill and just having my gf text me or call me or just be there. Just the laundry done or my meals prepped for when im on the road it's worth more to me than all the gold in the world. We both lean on each other and are brutally honest. We don't have time for bullshit we've been hurt too much by others to go through lies and negativity again.
>>7743237
*hug* i hope that you and her share a wonderful day
Working sundays is great, i get to make twich as much money
>>7743234
We have a long road ahead of us. We're both workaholics but we are working towards a future with one another.
>>7743239
Thank You! ^_^
>Suddenly get swamped in dysphoria and confusion related to gender a few weeks ago and haven't not thought about it for more than a few hours since.
What a strange ride this has been.
rinrin
>>7743246
Your bell rang hun~
renren
>>7743246
not thinking about some things is an artform
I still manage to impress myself from time to time
>>7743251
https://twitter.com/krti678/status/830171485222363136
>>7743247
Maybe if i can get into a uni in uppsala so i can still be with my bf
The isolation got to me to bad to do long distance again
>>7743254
OMG thats so cute >.<
[must watch]
>>7743257
ya i remember you really weren't in a good place a few months ago
i hope you manage to get in. What do you need to do?
dream job and bf in the same place sounds nice, im rooting for you :>
who wants to get beaten up
im ready
>>7743260
Thanks sertii
Ill see if i can get in to the uni here in summer
:butterfly:
>>7742691
my GP didn't even notice my prolactin was more than double the max. for pregnant females til I pointed it out to her and still won't do anything about it 6 months later because "if you have any concerns you should just stop taking the pills"
don't listen to doctors when it comes to trans stuff
>>7743266
Fist-fights are for brutish men
Ladies use a sword
>>7743273
and a stylish hat
>>7742721
I successfully hid it for 9 months. Both parents were shocked when I came out.
>>7743259
that guy looks like a supreme gentleman!
>>7743274
A very stylish hat
And perhaps leather pants
>>7743272
i think medical establishment remind me of car mechanics,
they say once you start modifying things, you're on your own, or we'll charge you a ton to make it run better
>>7743271
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but those emojis don't work here
someone post the mtf pic of all the trips
>>7743293
am not on any of those
radar
-------
me
>>7743289
lmao, accurate
boys should all wear makeup and dresses
>>7743303
Me neither.
>>7743314
Contradictory evidence
>>7743259
talk about a strawman
>>7743314
boys should wear whatever they want to
>>7743322
christ you look so weird dude
Can I ask a quick question if anyone is willing to help, I have just been speaking to somone and I want to ask if they identify as trans or something else..
What is the best or nicest way to ask that won't be offensive?
Sorry if this is a dumb question that is posted a lot, new to /lgbt/.
>>7743322
Hi Sirona how are you
I just want to throw my flesh in the trash. That's all it amounts too. I just want to throw myself away.
Like Stanhope says, one thing we can be sure we own is the meat that's packing our bones. I just want to throw the meat away. That's no big deal. Don't know why I postpone when everyday there is this constant mantra in my head that I wish I was dead.
>>7743329
That does seem to be the point I'm making, yes.
>>7743331
>that won't be offensive?
If they're on here, you should be fine just asking "Hey, have you been on /lgbt/? what threads do you visit"
Otherwise, there's no way of asking without it blowing up in your face. Just show yourself to be a nice person who'll listen to their problems without judging.
>>7743333
I ate 2 liters of icecream yesterday and I don't feel bad about it for once. It was a mistake but at least I'm putting effort in today, I had blueberries and a banana for breakfast...
Goo morning
>>7743338
Morning!
how r u
>hulu, netflix, crunchyroll, hbo, etc. have free trial periods
>they avoid abuse by remembering the credit card
>getting a new credit card is very cheap, about as much as one of the subscriptions
Why not just keep getting new credit cards, and free trialling all of them continuously?
Am I onto something here?
>>7743339
Relly gud
>>7743338
>goo morning
>the pic isn't a goo girl
c'mon
>>7743343
Glad to hear! c:
>>7743335
Its someone irl who i don't think uses 4chan, thanks for the advice though.. I might just try to stick to gender nuetral words and hope i don't say something stupid heh
>>7743343
>>7743346
>try to stick to gender nuetral words
I do that in general anyway... Avoiding gender as a topic means less discomfort for me.
But yes, that would probably be the safest option. Maybe not the most effective, but the least likely to blow up in your face.
>KKK 'imperial wizard' found dead near Missouri river after employer reports him as missing
>>7743334
fear of pain is enough to stop me or I'd be slitting my writs in the bathtub at any given moment lol
>>7743355
you fucked imperial wizard sam hyde, why are you a race traitor all of a sudden
>>7743346
just be an adult and ask
"sorry if this is awkward, but how do you identify gender-wise? I'm not 100% certain and I don't want to be rude"
it's that simple lol
>>7743355
Not much of a wizard.
>>7743355
wow, so edgy
>>7743343
Amy
so is this where all the transexuals come to gay it up and talk about boning each other then?
>>7743331
Why do you feel the need to ask? :3
If they haven't told you they are probably repressing and will just lie to you anyways..
my self-hate has been tripled in the last month and i only want to be a girl and nothing else
>>7743371
isn't that obvious by posting in mtfg?
Why can't I just take a low dose for life and repress that way
>>7743366
no that's agp
>>7743332
There are like 50 versions of it
somebody make me food
>>7743387
okokokokokokokokok
tfw fucking loser who will never be able to afford FFS
>>7743388
ty anon
you are the best anon
>>7743378
you make it sound as if it's where trans girls go to make conversation about how mighty a thirst they've developed
surely this is not the case?
can someone please hug me
>>7743400
*huggles*
>>7743401
thank you so much
i really needed that
>>7743399
it definitely is
>tfw no bf
>tfw no penis to give the succ
>>7743405
I don't understand how. There's an abundance of penises in this word and men who will jam said penises into anything that looks and acts suitably feminine and smells alright.
this place. it's like a place where time stops and space makes no sense, like when you find two starbucks next to each other in middle-america, and you walk in between them and your watch stops moving.
>>7743412
I can't speak for the rest of the girls here but I'm incredibly picky when it comes to men.
I like women more, and even then I'm picky as to what I like.
I'm just a choosy beggar I guess.
>>7743405
>>7743022
nah
I'm tired – I want to sleep.
one of my fav things to do when i'm bored is go through one of my ex bf's fb (cause we're friends still) and 'wow' react to every post he's made in the last month desu. is that weird lmao
>>7743436
AaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAA EEVEE
And Flareon!
my one weakness how did you know
>>7743440
I-I'm glad you like it
I don't have that many and I kinda just lucked out with you liking this particular one
>in contact with ex
>"stop taking the pills, there's nothing wrong with you, your hatred of yourself and anxiety is self imposed"
>repression guarantees bf comes back
Or
>keep transitioning and be alone
>no guarantee of happiness
>>7743439
Very much so
I hate being trans
it's ruined my fucking life
>>7743439
is this the one that broke your heart and now means every single relationship you have ends with you breaking up before you can gain any meaningful attachment?
>>7743442
are you that weak of a person that the only way you'll be happy is if you have a bf who doesn't even genuinely love and accept you lol
where did you get off using the trip spartan if that's the case
>>7743443
ok ty for confirming i had my suspicions
>>7743445
no i stopped talking to him in like july. this is the qt ginger guy i dumped cause we started dating a month after i first broke up with broke heart guy.
>>7743442
>"stop taking the pills, there's nothing wrong with you, your hatred of yourself and anxiety is self imposed"
thats bullshit and you know it
dont let him gaslight you
>>7743442
Repression never works Amy... Spartan is dead.
>>7743439
Autist.
>>7743442
there's no escape
it's fucking terrible but repression won't make you any happier than being a hon
the possibility of one day looking okay enough to not be a suicidal non-functioning mess is the only potential salvation, however slim the chance
everything else is 100%-certain unhappiness
>>7743442
Amy.
This is for your own good.
No one person is greater than you. No one person is worth jeopardizing your future for.
Either they fit with where you are, or they don't come for the ride.
You are you. Don't try to change who you are just to appease someone else.
That is the absolute worst, most selfish thing anyone can do to you.
>>7743415
Fair enough. Nothing wrong with having a particular preference. Just so long as shit doesn't turn into patronizing people who aren't perfect-hairlined, 6-feet +, ripped, and ridiculously handsome.
>>7743442
dont let him manipulate you
you will be okay, the fact you feel happier on hrt and dressing as a girl whilst actively wanting to be a girl is plenty enough evidence
>>7743442
You are aware that repressing doesn't guarantee he'll be with you forever right? I recently experienced the end of the longest and most serious relationship I've ever been in, which I never genuinely believed would end, for which we had made serious adult plans for the future and so on. How long have you been with this guy? And he's already gaslighting you? Fuck him. Let go of him. You'll find a better person who likes you the way you are.
No tickle
>tfw Amy is the one cause that /mtfg/ will always agree upon
>>7743468
You're being emotionally manipulated. That your former partner is doing this should be proof positive that he's not worth it. He does not have your best interests in heart. DROP HIM.
>>7743468
>What if I'm not a tranny
How many times are you going to test this?
>>7743468
We all die alone sweetheart...
He is trying to manipulate you into being what he wants... we all know the story. He kind of supportive at first. Then when he realized what your transition meant he would be loosing and suddenly the backpedaling started... Fuck that. What a cunt.
>>7743468
you need to block him and forget about him
he is abusive, this isn't healthy
tell your sister about this and she will tell you the exact same thing
>>7743469
I can't make a choice
>>7743473
I dont wanna die alone
;_;
>>7743476
block him
take your hrt
talk to your sister
talk to a therapist
>>7743468
it's time to toughen the fuck up tbqfh lmao
you're always going to die alone, life is always going to be hard, people will always leave you, and you will always have times of uncertainty
that's life. deal with it.
the reality is that ur a tranny. cis people don't think this shit and go through what you're going through.
none of the other bs matters. when you decided to transition you decided to do what's right for you and your genuine happiness.
happiness that's not dependent on some fagit who has nothing to offer you other than promises and uncertainty.
like who on earth would try to convince you that you're fucked up and that's why you're doing this instead of supporting you? u need a reality check
get a loan for srs/ffs/other surgeries
y/n?
how did you girls pay for them
>>7743468
this amy, don't let them manipulate you, you are your own person!
>>7743473
>>7743475
>>7743471
I'm becoming less and less convinced that there is any potential happiness out there for me
>>7743480
I don't know.
Being trans is scary and seems so hopeless and dead endy.
The idea that someone like him can offer a path back to cishood and I don't have to stress about my man features is carthatic
Like honestly. I'm so screwed if I'm a tranny
>>7743481
A way I hear a few people do it is to save up about half of it then get a loan for the rest.
Which are the best hormones
>>7743484
I don't want to be my own person.
I mean. I want to be a girl.
But reality means I am better off repressing and taking a compromise with gay relationships.
Fuck HOW DO I STOP TAKING THE PILLS FOR HIM
>>7743486
>I'm so screwed if I'm a tranny
says the girl with the girly eyes who got 100% female on the face recognition websites pre hrt and who is sad she isnt a girl and that HRT makes her feel better.
please. at least acknowledge that he is emotionally manipulating you
>>7743486
you are a tranny, it's shit but it's true
transition- slim chance of being okay
repression- no chance of being okay
it's not rocket science
>>7743492
>HOW DO I STOP TAKING THE PILLS FOR HIM
you dont
you are literally talking about giving up your happiness to make someone else happy
>Get buzzed with roommate
>Watch silly shit on Youtube
>make out
>She says she doesn't know what to think of me anymore, says I'm like her "bro girlfriend"
I couldn't ask for more, considering I don't ever "present" female.
>>7743489
huh, that's cool.
It'll be a little while before I can afford ffs, with or without a loan, but it never occurred to me that I could get a loan for it, so maybe I'll be able to get it sooner than I thought.
>>7743363
delicious alt-reality tears.
>>7743486
Jesus, cis people do not have these thoughts Amy. There is not pathway BACK to cishood, because you have never been cis... ever...
Stop doing this to yourself or you will cement your future as a hon. Wanna see the ghost of tranny's future?
>Repress and go back to him
>You keep having these mixed feelings
>Eventually it becomes a problem like last time and it all comes out
>At some point he will get sick of it and dump you, forever
>You will be alone
>Now you are late 20s and have a beard
>You have a beer gut from all the depression eating and SSRIs he put you on to help you repress more
>You have a gnarly receding hairline and back hair...
>You masturbate up to 10 times a day and rage at everything
>You finally decide to transition
>You look at yourself in the mirror, the Hon you have become.
>You realize you could have prevented this and use that four fifth on your dome
Get your shit together Ebeneezer... He ain't worth it.
>>7743507
you just described sheen
>>7743492
don't give up what you want just to conform to what someone else wants to force you into being, they sound horrible desu
dysphoria grows over time as far as I know so a compromise will just delay it till it's too late
>>7743509
>this triggers the transgirl
I am all good with Hons, but NOTHING makes me more dysphoric.
>>7743515
they used to be us
>>7743486
he's not offering you a path back to cishood, he's offering you the same miserable life you've been leading repressing
just because people will see you as a man if you're living as one doesn't mean that you're going to feel any better about your features
that's like WHY you're where you are in the first place.
you're not screwed if you're a tranny either. you have to stop trying to fit this nuclear family, cisnormative mold. it's fucking toxic.
and let me tell you something, cis people leading those kinds of lives don't fuckin like it either lol
honestly if you don't want to transition right now, fine. i'm not gonna force you (cause i don't have the power to) and no one else is going to either
but keep taking the pills and be single. this guy doesn't love you. so even if you don't want to transition he isn't right for you regardless.
>>7743517
You maybe :P
I will be cute forever <3
im ok its ok im ok its ok im ok its ok
>>7743492
Go back, stop, you're not ready for this.
When you know it, you'll be willing to forgo any comfort or love to be yourself.
you'll probably be 42 by then and some of your friends will have died and your parents will be old as fuck, but whatever. you'll have to deal with other issues and be made fun of early transitioners calling you hon and stuff.
just remember this when your faggot boyfriend breaks up with you in 6 months time, he doesn't love you or accept who you are, he never has and he never will.
Give my regards to Spartan. Just tell him to fuck off from these threads.
>>7743492
Let the fag know you're going to continue your physical transition; don't stop taking your medicine. If someone likes you they should at least be okay with you as a person. You can "be gay" for now, but your happiness proceeds some shit relationship. If you're not in a good mental state it's going to be a shit relationship for both of you anyway.
In the meanwhile you can become a skinny fag with boobs.
>>7743518
you know your shits all fucked up when dollface is giving you relationship advice
>>7743528
>>7743528
hey i may have issues with commitment at times but i've been in a LOT of relationships and i know what i'm talking about!!!!! lmao
>>7743528
and fuck you too, Edie is an awesome caring woman who gives excellent advise.
Just because you're jealous or judgy of her life choices doesn't make you a better person than her.
>>7743528
The advice she's giving is p good though tbqhwyf.
>>7743528
Ever hear of "Do as I say, not as I do?"
It's because people learn from their mistakes. It's better that they pass on that knowledge than following their example
And let's be real f a m, Dollface has had enough relationships to know which ones are gonna fail.
>>7742654
Seeing as Amy's ex is an immoral sociopath, do you think its possible he pozzed her?
Chest epilation is fucking excruciating. I can't do it.
>>7743544
¿que tanto pelo tenés?
peor si comenzaste por los pezones ;-;
>>7743544
Give up now, but try it again tomorrow.
Decent advice I heard about epilating the hard parts is to electric trim the hair down to just catchable levels (use a guard) then the hairs will only pull as much as they need to.
>>7743544
you shouldn't do it anyways honestly, the skin there is prone to irritation lol
if you're really bugged by it then tweeze it
>>7743544
wax
its faster
hurts just as much but is over much quicker
>things going well at work
>things going well with transition
Always: choose one
This week: choose two
Woah dude
>"Wow anon you're so funny man, what drugs are you on?"
>"About 200 milligrams of estrofem, and 4 milligrams of estradiol"
>"whaoo dude, what are those?"
>
>>7743552
that's good
have you told your dad yet?
>>7743554
>200 milligrams of estrofem
Are you okay?
>>7743554
Estrofem is a brand name... and 200 migs would fuck you up...
>>7743544
That's soo not a place to epilate like just below face and privates in wrongness, just dw about it and stick to arms and legs for now
>>7743554
>it's this stuff that makes sex way more intense and stops acne outbreaks!
2 years later
>"...-udies are now showing that underground drug rings are the cause of these outbreaks of gynomastica and muscle atrophy in young men, and a much lower starting age of puberty in women.
In other news, Great leader Trump has continued nuclear bombardment of the French colonial islan-..."
>>7743569
Good girl <3
>>7743569
>Been on the phone with my mum.
>Convinced me to stay on hrt and not talk to my ex
good girl
>>7743569
You have a good mum.
>>7743573
lol clearly, as Estrofem is just a brand name for Oestradiol
But you should, feM&Ms are the bomb!
>>7743581
i am a hulk
the best i could hope is hon and not freaky cross dresser
>>7743579
>"come on what normal boy orders hormones twice and then decided to stop and go back"
>>7743549
Is epilating bad in general, or just on the chest?
I kind of wanna try epilating my legs.
>>7743584
Yeah, you are a tranny, not everyone gets to look like a cis girl :)
Welcome to the club bub <3
HRT will help though
Its a working class life
>>7743589
i am a girl
i just don't know that many that can pick up their 350 pound friends
;~;
>>7743585
I'm glad you called and listened to your mum
>>7743589
If I don't look cis after ffs and like 5 years of hrt then I'll probably kill myself tbqh.
>>7743585
Maybe I'm just surprised because I don't feel like my mom is aware of people's feelings enough to understand why someone does something she wouldn't do.
>>7743588
Do it, but remember that you need to exfoliate properly and only use an epilator on short hair.
But think of it this way, you only need to shave/wax/trim/whatever once and then build your epilation into your bodycare routine :3
I use mine on my whole body, no problems.
>be eating mini pizza with sister and sister's bf
>be zoned out and thinking about tranny stuff
>sister apparently tells this amazing story about something that happened in class last week involving her classmates
>>haha wow, [Myrthe] what the heck, man. I can't believe you're just staring so blankly when your sister's telling crazy stuff like this!
I want cuddles :(
>>7743594
I'm glad too.
I understand that without my ex. I still want to be a girl
>>7743605
>I still want to be a girl
Amy, you ARE a girl
>>7743569
>>7743585
>>7743605
good!!!
>>7743603
>pizza
This is how I clocked you
I want Amy's mom to come in here and tell us off every time we think of repressing again...
She seems nice.
>>7743597
My suicide pact with my friend is in effect in about a year and a half. If both of our lives haven't improved then I'm going to kill her then myself.
It's helped a bit, because neither of us are allowed to kill ourselves yet and we're supposed to work towards preventing that. Although her amount of work is questionable, she has 6 months to start progressing until I start kicking her ass. After all, if she doesn't I'm literally going to kill her.
>>7743589
how do
>>7743616
Go look at /hrtgen/ I am a moron, and I worked it out :3
Its all in the OP. Do you take any regular medication, smoke or drink?
>>7743561
No, but every time he asks me what I want to do long term and stuff I say we really need to talk in person about it, which I think he sees as just putting off actually talking about anything pretty basic cause he kind of scoffs but not like super rudely, just that he's disappointed.
He knows I want to somehow go to college at some point preferably before my 30s which is throwing him for a loop considering my life trajectory but he doesn't know the main reason is so I could maybe be stealth for a little bit, maybe at least a semester or two.
Literally the next time it's just me and him hanging out I'm going to, but that hasn't happened in maybe 3 years. Like we'll probably go see John Wick 2 together (dad me and bro) cause he was really surprised by how much he liked the first one and it's the first blockbuster sequel I've ever heard him express excitement over, but we'll stand around shooting the shit for like 40 minutes after just by one of those one way exits cinemas have slightly out of the way but with plenty of people walking by, and then go our separate ways, so it's like...
Oh Jesus that was a rant I'm sorry anon, ty for asking though
And basically everything besides that part is going along much smoother now
Should I get FFS, VFS, or body stuff done first?
I want to be in stealth as long as possible while I pay this stuff off.
I could get away with being a feminine faced or bodied guy for a while but the voice I couldn't hide.
And I don't want to get boned by interest rates so I'll have to take a really short term payment plan for the FFS and take forever to afford the VFS and stuff..
Really regretting not thinking about this stuff 7 years ago when I was a lot younger..
>>7743601
Ok, cool.
Also, do you know if epilation can interfere with getting laser down the line?
I'd like to eventually get laser and/or electro on my legs, if I ever have the disposable income for it.
I want to sleep :(
>>7743613
I think we should all trip as "Amy's Mom" anytime someone talks about de-transitioning or repressing.
>>7743624
What kind of body stuff are you thinking about?
Taking your fat out and injecting it into your thighs? Breast augmentation?
>>7743630
Some hip and thigh and butt stuff, yes. I considered breast implants but I don't think I'd be able to hide it at all and I can always get them later. I'm kind of developing small conetits which doesn't bother me for now, but the women in my family are usually pretty busty, so I can expect to be a C cup or so.
Right now I really just need to lose weight, I never even really just how disproportionate my body is. I still have like 8 months so I guess that's okay.
But I wasn't sure if it would be good to lose like 30% of my waistline and the fat there because they might need it for the injections..... but if I lose weight AFTER that then where is the fat going to disappear from first?
So many questions, so much regret.
FFS > Butts > VFS? I won't be able to move out of my parents place for like the next 3 years..
>>7743569
I know we don't talk really or anything but that's a massive relief to hear honestly
>>7743575
:C
Things might be different in the UK but I know it's easy to get a workable electric razor that just gobbles up the hair for like thirty bucks here, not waterproof or anything fancy but if you're literally just using it on problem bits like that that you want to barely have to acknowledge it's not going to break too quickly and it can really help
>>7743625
No idea, I just epilate and save the money and the hassle of dealing with any other human that isn't my partner. Like I said it is a part of my routine, and now I have been doing it for a while I only have to epilate maybe once a fortnight for the stragglers, and once a month if I am really lazy. But it is always better to stay on top of it.
Also, apparently once I have been on AAs for a little while longer it may be even less frequent :3
>>7743635
Actually, What does she know of 4chan/mtfg?
If she's that supportive of you, she's gotta be a cool mom right? (and I was serious, why not have her come in next time you see someone talk about repression. It'd make you even cooler)
>>7743641
Oh god no... please... What will she think of all the lewdposting?
>>7743622
biotin and fiber
no to both
>>7743643
She'll join in >:3
What should I do today /mtfg/
>>7743647
>yfw Amy's mom becomes the lewdest lewd poster
>>7743640
Now that you mention it, maybe the time and effort required to permanently remove every hair on my body wouldn't be worth not having to epilate once a fortnight.
idk
And yeah, I feel like my body and facial hair has become thinner and slower to grow since I've started hrt. It's nice.
there's a lot of gem posting here
>>7743635
Hey Amy, do you have discord?
>>7743652
I post SU stuff all the time because I only hang out in mtfg and sug
>>7743656
>tfw only hang out here and mlpg
>tfw I have no pictures I can post outside the containment zone
>>7743656
visit other boards, there's a lot of nice stoof
opal is the best gem btw
>>7743663
:p
Sirona#7318
>>7733944 >>7734039
Sharing an early version of my MTFG catalogue.
Native format: HTML.
Exports: PDF, PNG.
>TFW pastebins / image hosts but no HTML/PDF hosts on the Internet in 2017
>>7743670
>not on there
I'd be surprised, but it took me asking to get put on a tierlist, just to get on a "who's who".
>>7743645
Yeah that stuff should be ok.
People will tell you a lot of things about the various options.
I would suggest Cypro and Estrofem.
Cypro can be hard on the liver, so you want to avoid oral E
Estrofem can be taken sublingually avoiding the hepatic pathways. That way you avoid the nastier issues cypro can cause.
You could also do patches or injections, but I am sure you can work out why I suggest Estrofem over those options. Also, there is SOME opinions that suggest the spikes that sublingual E gives is actually better for transition long term. But I did hear that on 4chan, so who knows :P
Cypro: start @ 50mg once a day AFTER FOOD. This one is a wild ride because you start at max dose and work your way down once you tank your T. You need to be careful when reducing dose, quarter tab at a time over several weeks. 37.5/25/12.5/0. Be fully aware, this bad girl will ruin your balls forever... you won't be coming back from this one.
Estrofem: start @ 1mg BID (one in morning one in night), ramp up over time to morning/lunch/night, then 1M 1L 2N
Then work your way up to the same pattern with 2mg tablets. I started with one of the night time tabs being a 2mg then the Lunch then the Morning and then finally the 2nd night time. I did this ramp up over about 9 months. Some will say shorter, some will say longer. I did what worked for me and I was comfortable with. Too much E at once and my BP would spike.
Some people will say that you may need more than 8mg, but that is why you need to get bloods done. It is best if you have a baseline (all the info is on hrtgen checkout the link that says something about anime girl slides or something). You need to get regular bloodwork done so you know what is working, and if you are boxing your liver/kidneys. This will also help you know if you have properly tanked your T or if you need to stay on cypro a little longer.
>>7743670
>tfw ur a mystery
>>7743670
In the orientation column, are you using the trans symbol to mean bisexual?
idgi
>>7743675
I'm also in the process of developing a script automatically indexing all namefags and collating their multiple identities. So you would find your way to that catalogue sooner or later.
Meanwhile feel free to deliver your response to that survey.
>>7743670
By the way, I'm in a relationship with Anna.
>>7743680
>In the orientation column, are you using the trans symbol to mean bisexual?
Yes. Bisexual... and perhaps transphile/chaser? Is there another appropriate Unicode symbol?
>>7743684
It actually upsets me that people don't get that...
Why does everyone forget Frangi? :(
>>7743685
I was confused because at first I thought it meant "only attracted to trans women".
I would probably just put the male symbol, female symbol or both, to indicate which gender(s) the person is attracted to.
>>7743681
>location
Dublin, Ireland
>identifies as
21 year old female who has a creepy obsession with skirts and knee high socks, I guess...
>loves...
[starts singing "want you gone"] so I guess Pre-Op
>AGP or trutrans
How to know? (better put down AGP to be safe)
>straight or lesbian
Bi as fuck and I want a boyfriend. Sadly, I'm too shy to go out looking for one.
>relationship status
Poly.
>>7743689
I post pictures constantly and I tease people constantly. It's close enough >:(
>>7743691
Yeah :(
or Anna for that matter
gn girls and catalogue person
>>7666701
Nah, it's the capital of Georgia
It's all good
>>7743702
Nini
>>7743670
that's super creepy mate
>>7743703
Ty. Gotta make my mark y'know?
>>7743677
Should I be concerned if I take cypro in the morning
Should I move it
>>7743706
still thousandsfold less creepy than Facebook
>>7743697
Well I guess the other thing is that you are fairly new?
>>7743701
Please, I must know if you have worked out which trip I am :3
To me it is super obvious... And I have worked out who some anons are by the way they post and what they say.
>>7743702
ni ni ~uwu
tuck tuck tuck pat pat pat
>>7743699
I know :/ That photo she posted was super cute, I can't wait to see your couples HRT timeline down the track :3
How is the self medding going? I've been afk so I missed any updates there...
>>7743713
No, just take it the same time every day and you will be fine :) The important part is taking it on a schedule so you are keeping the AA affects and the metabolites fairly consistent. This is the one that you want to mess around with the least.
>>7743724
>>7743706
Honestly it'll make it easier for some people to keep track of who's who, and what their general opinions/tastes are.
It'll reduce confusion for new posters.
>>7743725
I mean that's true, 4-6 months(I have no idea how long I've been posting here) is not long in terms of history of this thread.
>>7743726
How did they know I want to be a girl
>repress feelings
>repress some more
>angry and suicidal all the time
>try to make peace with being a man
>start hormones again since why not i will kill myself soon anyway
>that wonderful feeling of calm and peace instead of being angry and bitter all the time
>being able to find satisfaction in life in the silly little things
>that crushing feeling of worthlessness that you will never pass or be a real girl
>considering repressing again
No no no no no no
I want to get of this ride
I never asked for this
This is like the 4th time
Why are we still here, just to suffer?
>>7743728
:sunglasses:
You can smell the trans emanating off of repressers once you've gone far enough in transition!
>>7743726
And you have come and gone like a lot of us do :)
I am fairly new here too, like maybe 3-4 months
>>7743735
Yeah. But I mean, come on, I can't stick around constantly, I need breaks from this hell. It's a known fact to overexposure to /mtfg/ causes depression, dysphoria, and hondom!
>>7743738
I have RL cis girlfriends which balances shit out for me. But I do agree, this place is the leading cause of crazy in tgirls :P
>>7743697
>How to know? (better put down AGP to be safe)
If you're keen to fap to your female selfies, you count as AGP in my survey. I wrote "trutrans" but I really mean "non-AGP". Sorry for confusion.
Another column that may cause confusion is "cute". In practice, it boils down to whether your transgender self-ideal is an anime girl or big woman, I guess. There are so many "trans cute girls" ITT (if not the majority) that I have felt a need to distinguish them from "trans women".
The survey is necessarily imprecise but these distinctions are important for me and I do my best to improve their definitions.
>>7743670
⦁ location (if revealed)
N/A
⦁ Identifies with cute girl or with adult woman?
Not mature enough to consider myself an adult yet desu
⦁ Loves own penis or hates it? (non-OP/pre-OP/post-OP)
Pre-op
⦁ Is AGP or trutrans?
Both?...
⦁ Straight or lesbian?
Straight, I think...
⦁ relationship status
Not looking
What are the best hormones
>>7743745
Estrogen and Progesterone for sure
>>7743677
>Be fully aware, this bad girl will ruin your balls forever... you won't be coming back from this one.
I thought about trying to bank sperm before starting hrt, but then I was like nah.
This didn't influence my decision to not bank, but I was under the impression that if I changed my mind then I could go off hrt for a bit before getting orchi or srs, but I guess that wouldn't work after all.
I guess now I gotta hope I don't change my mind about wanting bio-kids.
>tfw one of your best friends is one of the most gorgeous and intelligent and caring ppl you've ever met but she doesn't realize it and lowkey gets insecure when comparing herself to you
sorry to vent but this is literally the most annoying feeling ever lol. like idek what to do about it and i feel powerless.
like she's way prettier than me and she's a wonderful person and she doesn't even ever see it and idk what to tell her so she knows. like i've tried everything.
>>7743677
Umm, is it bad that I just went from 50mg to 25 in a day?
>>7743752
Who is it?
>>7743725
Oh my gosh. Thank you so muuuch >.<
I can't wait either!
Umm I think I'm doing good so far c:
This past friday was my two week mark and for the effects; afaik my right nip is feeling pretty sore, and for some reason my nose is also softer than usual.
It's all really, really exciting
Thank you for asking
>>7743754
You'll be fine.
>>7743743
>fap to your female selfies
Ew...
ewww...
No, hell no! Like, looking good is nice and makes it easier to... yeah... I don't masturbate to myself!
>>7743755
she doesn't post here or anything like that, she's from my fb groups and stuff. i just don't know like what to do about it.
i've literally told her 2839229830 times sine knowing her that she's gorgeous and so smart and can do anything she wants and that i love her tons and she can trust me etc
but it doesn't ever seem like she hears me when i say it
>>7743757
Thank you, I really hope so.
>>7743727
>Why am I listed as ">>7715153 →" when I'm Anonymous?
Because what you post is who you are. In addition, a survey response delivered by >>7733999 is a precedent which supports this practice.
>Also I don't really understand – what the emojis are supposed to mean exactly?
I wasn't sure which emojis to use so I collected all useful emojis in each column's head. I haven't made my final choice regarding their meaning but you should get the grist hopefully.
>>7743744
Thank you.
>>7743752
is she single?
mfw waking up and realizing I'm still alive
>>7743758
Therefore not AGP, hahah.
>>7743729
Hi, me. Friendly reminder:
Yes. We, human beings, exist to suffer.
There is nothing to gain from the suffering either. You do not become a better person. You are not going to be able to be forgiven or forgive yourself. There is no karmic balance in the universe or a god that will let you find peace through it. You will not get tougher; only scarred and insensitive.
My T is in the teens and my E is around 250 and I still get incredibly angry sometimes. I throw inanimate objects and call them names, break little shit. Because that's how i learned while I repressed to vent my hopelessness.
The solutions to the problems in your head are also in your head. No one is going to be able to say something that makes you feel better.
In the mean time, all we can do is try over and over and become numb to the failure. Trying involves doing and involves accepting failures; like ourselves. You better stay on those hormones, don't you fucking give up. If you're not here to try and suffer like the rest of us human beings, kill yourself because there's no other reason to be around if you're not going to do shit.
So chin up, faggot.
>>7743569
>>7743772
naw she's trans too
>>7743764
Can you take me out of the list, please? I don't really want my data to be collected :(
ffxiv is trutrans
im a lil hungry
Some guy might be coming from New York to kill me because I didn't tell him I was trans outright. What do?
>>7743744
>>7743697
Would you also like to include some means of reaching you outside 4chan? Or naming someone who has those means?
Take note: even if you don't, but later make that information public anyway (by posting it for everyone to see), it may find its way to the catalogue. Doxxed info won't be included.
>>7743776
Well, maybe I am wrong about this, but it just seems like low self esteem.
If you said yes, I was just going to tell you that she is doing it for attention as I go through similar (not the comparing themselves to me part) with a few of my girlfriends every few months lol... But the cause is ultimately the same imo
You can't fix her either way unfortunately :(
>>7743768
It's not that easy. I developed some insensitivity to antiandrogens so I'm taking 400mg Spiro prescribed by my doctor and my test is still 80. I used ro have it at like 0.5 on 200mg.
I don't get angry at all once my test gets low but on test it's easier to ignore the pain, just drown it out with blind rage. On hormones you need to deal with it without any handholding or coping mechanisms and I'm pretty much all alone and even ir anyone did give a shit about me to support me it'd be only for sex or pity since I'm an unpassable hon
Idk everything sucks surely death is better than this misery and pain
>>7743786
Absolutely not.
>>7743772
Oh, I'm very sorry. I misunderstood.
I told my dad everything and he understands. He researched a bunch of stuff and will take my blood for checking when the time comes
>>7743787
she's like perfect tho and idk i just want her to be happy and to realize it ;__________; and i feel like the bad guy when this stuff happens too
>>7743782
I'm sleepy
>>7743786
Also, I would prefer people to reach out to me for my Skype. Please don't add it to the list if I give it out. Everything else (steam, discord, bnet) is fair game
>>7743725
>Please, I must know if you have worked out which trip I am :3
I will include only reasonably solid identities, connected by chains of posts and self-disclosures. No point including wild guesses.
Even those "solid" identities could be fake.
>>7743798
Can confirm; am fake.
>>7743725
What trip r u pls tell me pls
Everytime I watch a trans person get harassed in the bathroom, I remind myself how lucky I am
>>7743795
you should go take a lil nap
>>7743802
Same
>>7743800
You sound like a fake of me :o
>>7743808
merie curie
>>7743810
Probably. I might be your doppleganger even.
If we ever meet in public I'm killing you without warning. I probably won't want your life either, but you might have a few bucks on you.
>>7743808
tfw
>>7743809
i guess idk. thx anon pal ;_;
>>7743806
I can't sleep :(
https://a.pomf.cat/ewqosm.mp4
>>7743814
budd
>>7743813
Please don't be mean :(
>>7743815
take a deep breath and ill tucc you in
>>7743816
Some morons (myself included) don't care enough.
Apparently I'm p obvious when I drop drip tho.
>>7743816
You gotta remember that mtfg isn't the sharpest tool in the shed
>>7743809
It wasn't >n<
I was kinda scared he was gonna take my pills away (being the doctor he is) or be dissapointed in me because he once told mom selfmedding is dumb ;-;
My plan was to tell him during the weekend but he said something I could use as a stepping stone to tell him, so I did. His reaction was calm and I tried to tell him as much as I knew about hormones. He accepted it and he thought I knew what I was doing.
*fart*
teehee~
>>7743812
Yeah
What's up
>>7743814
Honestly?, truely
>>7743825
YOUNG LADY, GO TO YOUR ROOM. THERE SHALL BE NO SUPPER UNTIL YOU LEARN SOME MANNERS.
>>7743825
another quality elanna post
so informative, so inspirational
>>7743825
wtf girls don't do that
>>7743826
mood
>>7743826
im hungry
hru
>>7743825
Gross bruh
>>7743819
Thank you emi, that's really nice of you~
>>7743824
You did very well, and should be super proud of yourself. I am glad he was cool with it all :)
Anyways I am off to bed now, ni ni ~
>>7743839
Sleep well, Anon~
>>7743831
Thank you I keep my post quality high
>>7743829
OK :(
>>7743833
This is the ultimate sign that I am AGP
>>7743835
I'm tired
And horny
Wyd
>>7743834
Relatable
>>7743843
i wish i was agp
>>7743839
Thank you so much c:
Good night, anon!
>>7743846
sleep and horny will go away
Should I walk through the shitty neighborhood to get where I'm going or should I just take the subway instead
Also
>tfw someone is lewd posting on another thread and it gives you tfw no bf feels
>>7743825
Bro no
>>7743777
1. It would compromise the integrity of the catalogue. In an ideal world, the catalogue is really just a high-level /mtfg/ data filter; a mathematical function rendering the output without human manual intervention. You are effectively asking me to rewrite the history of /mtfg/ or to introduce an error into the filter.
2. I don't collect any clandestinely acquired data ("doxx"), I only include what people post about themselves willingly and publicly.
3. Someone out there collects all that information without telling you anyway. And those people don't only collect public information... Private 4chan data have been leaked in the past. The same goes for EVERY other anon board. By appealing to my kindness to remove selected data, you only put kind people at a disadvantage to unkind people.
4. Unlike §3, my catalogue has no sinister purpose. It's for social purposes: identifying allies, finding love, general orientation, etc.
5. Last but not least, HOW DO I KNOW YOU ARE YOU? How do I know it's not someone else trying to remove your data from my catalogue? This is so exploitable...
>>7743849
hey look, it's my valentine
>>7743859
v-valentine...
I drew a doggo
Im not sure if I posted this yesterday but I hope not
>tfw bfs school has no po box or anything so i cant send him a valentines gift
>your nim/evangeline pairing is coming tru
:D
>>7743864
valentine!
>>7743870
wow you're good at drawing!
>>7743854
Maybe
I need
A new girlfriend though
>>7743874
>///<
how are you?!
>>7743873
i'll break it up before this mistake goes too far
>>7743885
What happened to Rachel?
>>7743886
im okay, im just eatin yummi cherries right now
then finish homework
then draw!
>>7743888
it's the official otp
>>7743797
>Please don't add it to the list if I give it out.
I can't pretend I don't see something when I see it. Don't share personal information using public channels – use private channels for that. These threads are archived for all to see no matter what I do.
If you make some basic effort to keep your private data private, I will not include them even if I see them.
>>7743893
do your best emi!!!
you can do it!!!!!!!!!!! ><
>>7743877
Omg t-thanks >u<
Catalogue anon what do you have on me
>>7743890
L m f a o
Ask her lol
She doesn't really deserve me anyway desu
>>7743907
they went to bed i think
>>7743907
i think they might have a pic of you with an exposed ankle
I got my friend fired today
>>7743904
sounds nice...
>>7743904
uwu
>>7743910
No one does cause who would want a stuck up cunt like you?
ok catalogue anon here you go
⦁ location (if revealed)
netherlands
⦁ Identifies with cute girl or with adult woman?
cute adult woman
⦁ Loves own penis or hates it? (non-OP/pre-OP/post-OP)
pre-OP
⦁ Is AGP or trutrans?
spook desu
⦁ Straight or lesbian?
bi
⦁ relationship status (Single/taken/polygamous?)
taken
>>7743912
>exposed ankle
were the downfall of civilization.
>>7743923
Neat
>I wish
Damn shame I've actually posted that before
>>7743931
>Damn shame I've actually posted that before
What? You slut!
Do any of you have experience with liplift? Dose it work? How scar heal?
>>7743937
Yeh uwu
>>7743918
Lol
Regardless of how much of a bitch I am to unimportant people, I'm actually extremely sweet and devoted to people I like and care about.
So.....like I said, I'm a very great person to have as a girlfriend, and anyone would be lucky to have me honestly [regardless of my many many fkaws].
Unfortunately, She self-sabotages all her relationships. If she got her shit together Id be down to be her ride or die bitch though, because she is (almost) as great as I am :^)
I-it's totally not weird for a guy to get ear piercings and a girl hair styling right?
>>7743913
Why
>>7743954
>for a guy to get ear piercings and a girl hair styling right?
Let me know if you find out...
>>7743954
I mean my ears are pierced
But it makes me look hella gay desu
>>7743957
My main issue is the healing time for the piercing (6 weeks iirc) would overlap with visiting my dad which terrifies me
Guess I have to push it back until last week of March
>>7743954
piercers will never find stuff like that weird, you'll need to see the type of people that go in there. As long as you go to a tattoo salon.
The hairstylist might be a bit confused tho if you don't pass or at least look or act kinda faggy
>>7743921
Thank you.
>cute adult woman
For the purpose of this catalogue, cute is cute. Needs not be underage. Many adult women maintain childish manners and looks. Age is just a number.
>AGP spook desu
Let me try to define AGP more specifically as whether your ideal self-image (real, drawn, photoshopped or entirely imagined) is a substantial source of your sexual excitement, de facto porn.
Many argue that AGPs are trutrans too, so disregard the "trutrans" part, I merely meant "non-AGP".
Anchor: >>7743670
>>7743970
adult woman and trutrans then i guess
>>7743943
It works
>>7743950
>Mercury
>great
I like your comedy style
I'm a better girl than some actual girls
>>7743670
Myrthe (also known as Sish and Frangipane)
>⦁ location (if revealed)
Flanders, Belgium (the dutch-speaking part, for language reference)
>⦁ Identifies with cute girl or with adult woman?
Well I mean I want to be cute but I think that with years going by, you can't stay a girl and have to become an adult woman.
>⦁ Loves own penis or hates it? (non-OP/pre-OP/post-OP)
Hate it (pre-OP)
>⦁ Is AGP or trutrans?
I don't like this question sorry
>⦁ Straight or lesbian?
Lesbian
>⦁ relationship status (Single/taken/polygamous?)
Taken <3
>>7743988
Thank you. Would you also like to include some way to find you outside 4chan?
>>7743992
My Discord is
frangipane#2969
>>7743996
Cool.
>>7743988
wtf
>>7743999
what? D:
>>7743999
You are next. I know that you have a Discord server hosted in Putin's office :^).
>>7743670
There needs to be a legend for those symbols, I'm not sure what some of them mean.
Perhaps I'm just retarded though.
>>7744007
Good luck getting accurate results
>>7744010
No, you're right. I won't use all symbols gathered in column heads, I left them there to help me decide later. I will describe them too.
Suggestions for useful Unicode emojis are welcome.
>>7744010
Agreed, all good charts need legends
>dad and mom flying over tommorow to see my therapist for some reason
>tell me to find a restaurant to eat for afterwards cus the appointment is late
>"nothing too fancy"
>book fanciest place i know of and always have wanted to go to
heheehehe
>>7744015
It me
>>7744020
typical communist
exploiting people for their own gain
>>7744027
oy vey
>>7744020
maybe this is why you have family issues
>>7744030
you said it, not me.
>people paying for you ask please dont get too fancy
>eagerly brag about how you are gonna trick them and extort them
sounds like commie to me
>someone hurting you makes you want to hurt yourself
I think I've only seen the tip of the iceberg when it comes to understanding how crazy I am...
>Clean shaven skinny guy with long hair
>Assume they're repressing trans girls
Every time
>>7744026
is that how it went down
>>7744037
Stereotypes are the worst aren't they?
>>7744039
i think it might just be how generic you are
me
>>7744038
Yeah it was an ugly affair
>>7744042
>tfw you will never be small and girly enough to be max
>tfw you will never be cool and confident enough to be chloe
meh
>>7744041
i guess you feel insecure and make stuff up about yourself so you're not perceived as such?
>>7744045
Even if that is true, you could still try to get as close to one of those two as you can c:
>>7744044
Saw this on /fit and immediately thought of you.
>>7744047
do you think im insecure?
>>7744015
Is this from something? Looks cute.
>>7744053
no idea saw it on /tg/
>>7744050
You are like the definition of insecurity.
>>7744053
>girl about to get her dick cut off
>"looks cute"
trip on, chara
>>7744049
>transgenders
lmao.
Why do these people insist that we don't understand biology?
Literally every anti-trans person I've ever talked to had such an inferior understanding of biology than myself.
Science is the practice of an insane society.
>>7744049
Saveddd
Also
>tfw anon thinks of you when they see best girl
>>7744053
>kid about to get their willy chopped off
>"Omg cute"
Trannies amirite?
>>7744050
my opinion of you varies between seeing you as a non-person or someone who's really insecure about how others perceive her.
It depends on the weather i'd say.
>>7744063
worst girl
luka was best girl btw
>>7744057
>>7744063
It's obviously one of those lulsorandom moments that anime and manga love so much. From this one panel it looks like it's a silly/light-hearted slice of life manga with a bunch of female characters and one of them is a trap. I imagine they just said something depressing and the one with the scissors is jokingly threatening to cut her thing off to fix the problem.
>>7744068
luka was a trap, right?
>>7744033
yes you're so dark and brooding and not cringy at all
>>7744063
Is Steins;Gate
worth watching?
>>7744071
only sometimes
>>7744076
Steins;Gate is one of my favorites
>>7744075
Sorry anon, directing my hate at you won't help today... Having a close friend tell me that going out partying with people they barely know, and playing league is more important to them then spending 5 minutes talking to me is too big of a thing to deal with...
>>7744089
not a bot exactly, just a fake persona
>>7744092
If your basing this on my mtfg posts only. Have you even spoken to me in voice before
>>7744095
his defining characteristic was that he wanted to fuck okabe
>>7744076
Also, yes, watch Stein's;Gate
>>7744042
http://loveisstrange-vn.tumblr.com/
>>7744103
Wow this is so cool!
I was just looking for a new game to play
Thank you very much, anon
another day of being a hon and ur pc not working well enough to run overwatch
great
>>7744108
You're welcome~ :3
>>7744098
And they had no chemistry
In part because she's blander than white bread.
>>7744104
lmao
So what was the last report on Basic?
Last I seen her things were a little rough for her, psychologically.
When is she marrying her fiancée?
>>7744113
white bread is the best kind of bread though
>>7744117
I'll check on her
>>7744118
Shit taste and diabetes
>>7744118
Why would you share your opinions if they're this awful? White bread's only use is to get actual food to your mouth. It's entirely for organizational and delivery purposes. It's just a napkin for your food that you happen to be able to eat. If you want bread with your food you should use actual bread.
>>7743897
How am I supposed to get a private channel without using public channels lol
>>7744040
>reverse trap
The only feminine thing about him are his chromosomes.
sup /mtfg/ my girlfriends trans and pretty cute. when were having sex i sometimes like to imagine what it would be like to be on the receiving end.
i know it's really nice because she's always moaning. she's not into doing guys though obviously.
what do?