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Ichi, Ni, San, Moo Edition

Informed consent providers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Forward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Clinics.pdf
• Makeup for beginners: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
• Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
• Correct hormone levels: http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
• Checking your levels: http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
• Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
• Transition time lines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
• Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
• IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg

Last thread >>7742649
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Ughhh could barely sleep because of leg spasms, feels like growing pains all over again. DX
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>>7744126
That sounds like no fun!!!
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how do i get elenna to be my gf?

asking on a friends behalf
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>>7744121
Being a tranny does not automatically make you a weeb too. You have enough problems as it is.
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im hella gay
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>>7744037
>irl, normies will see you as fem guy
>4ch sees you as trans
good thing 4ch is not real life

>>7744079
>>7744095
wiki says luka was male, who presented as a girl, and hence trap
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>>7744128
I think maybe it's because I might have overdid it at the gym for my first day back ._.
Curse you excess energy!
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>tfw you cant take a pic like this
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>>7744131
I really don't have many problems
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>>7744090
I'll certainly try.
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>>7744134
he becomes a girl through magic
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>>7744139
????
Why would this trigger anyone. It's a biological reality of our anatomy.
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>>7744144
we are women though, it's not really a reality
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>>7744140
well said, this is a good post
sad to me when people deprive themselves the joys of non-white bread
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>>7744146
Biology doesn't lie hon
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>>7744139
id go in the male one just for fun and use the urinal if i saw that
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>>7744144
It's trying to say that biological men go into one and biological women go into the other. It's not something cute the restroom near the science lab did. Trans people can either use the "proper" one as defined at birth or go piss outside like animals.
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>>7744146
:thinking:
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>>7744148
agreed
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>>7744139
I prefer this one.
So many libs cried over it
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>>7744150
Real talk now, how sad is your life if you spend it trying to troll people here?
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>>7744146
we are just biological males doing our best to appear as female as possible
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>>7744139
>>7744156
Where do XXY go or XYY?owo
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>>7744135
Lmao, yeah ya think??? Lol
But at least you're getting back to the swing of things!
I miss that sort of pain, I haven't been to the gym in a very long time ;-;
What's your usual gym schedule/regimen?
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>>7744158
>we are just biological males
untrue in many ways
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>>7744156
This was literally posted in the previous thread.

There is nothing controversial about saying XX vs XY. But segregating bathrooms based on your chromosomes is really quite stupid, lmao.
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>>7744162
ummm...
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>>7744157
My life is pathetic, but I wasn't the one who posted the bathroom sign picture, I just remember the context was literally some college taking a stance about which bathroom trans people should use.
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>>7744162
You seem to have forgotten something.
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>>7744161
LOL yeah n_n'
And I did the elliptical for 30 min then treadmill for 40 min. But my shins are throbbing so I decided not to go today since they're probably in shock after laying in bed for almost a month!
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>>7744170
lol
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>>7744170
idk, if you have tits, a vagina, female hormone levels and all that jazz, it's hard to say your biology is male lmao
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>>7744174
b-but what about the...p*nis?
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wew lad i slept for 18 out of 24 hours yesterday and still feel kinda tired, am I dying or something lol
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>>7744175
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>>7744175
what about the skeleton, more like it
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>>7744175
Do you have a benis and a vagaloo at the same time?
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>>7744176
I've heard that under and over sleeping can make you tired~
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>>7744162
>>7744170
>>7744170
I remember the persuasion here: there's a lot more to biology than chromosomes and genitals. By throwing away male hormones and doing female ones you end up with female muscle and fat distribution, female hormone levels, softer skin, body hair thinning, boobs. All of that is biology as well. You just started off with male biology, then you gave nature the middle finger and decided to go the other direction. Including removing the beard puberty was so nice to give you and even your testicles and penis if you need to.

At worst you become something in between. At best you start to look and sound female and claim you're female and people will either not know the difference or will have to make up their mind on if they truly believe you.
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>>7744130

Fight me naked.
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>>7744177
o shit
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwJM4sJb4yU

>mfw cardio can't undo years of childhood behaviour of eating your greens and drinking your milk


Curse you Spartan.
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>>7744177
>posting an edit
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>>7744182
in the end, even XY karyotype isn't strictly female. Intersex women with XY chromosomes exist
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>>7744174
You had to have plastic surgery to get a vulva, and your vagina needs to be rammed with a foot-long dildo on a daily basis just to make sure it doesn't lose depth. Even before considering the fact that you weren't born with any female reproductive organs and need to take medication just to appear feminine, there's no way to argue that your biology is leaning towards female.
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>>7744180
I have a bepus and a (boy)vagaloo at the same time!
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*blocks your path*
"stop taking hormones"

What do you do?
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>>7744144
Tough audience.

>>7744176
Maybe you should exercise more.

>>7744192
Just line in your chinese cartoons.
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>>7744194
turn 360 degrees and moonwalk away
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>tfw been repressed since childhood
>tfw last year still 19, decided to get over it once and for all and go see a psych
>see psych for 6 months
>tell sister aswell, sister is actually amazingly supportive
>get onto the cusp, a signature away from HRT
>back out to "reconsider"
>dropped the idea and shut myself off as of August
>killed off communication with the psych
>halt all preperations for girlmode, rebuy all mens clothes
>refashion it up, make ultra-conservative evangelical christian friends
>life is peachy, think i got over trans thoughts and it only took 19 years
>turn 20 in december
>been feeling like shit ever since
>tfw it would have been moderately easymode since chink
>still good friends with ultra-conservative friends but every time hanging out always scared they'll suspect something and end friendship

And then i ended up on this gen on this board on this website. What do i do? i dont know how to be happy with myself.
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>>7744191
the fact that you need plastic surgery and medication is irrelevant. It's all just tissue in the end and it leans decidedly more to the female side
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>>7744156
>thinking 2 chromosomes decide the whole expression of secondary sexual characteristics.
I find it sad how people suddenly stop learning and start beliving that what they learned in high school is the alpha and omega of human understanding.

...que sera, sera
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>>7744182
What you're referring to is he human analogue. Males and females were born with the same bodies with the exception of reproductive organs, hence why men have nipples. Given you don't allow your body to develop to a point where you look unmistakably masculine, you can feasibly convince people that you're biologically female (even taking into consideration that some bio females have higher t-levels), but there's nothing scientific to prove that you are.
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>>7744194
Shoot him, probably. This *is* America after all.
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>>7744191
id say theyre correct in saying biology since you appear female but when saying xx or xy thats genetics and none of us appear female genetically
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>>7744156
The floor is a photoshop.
Look at how there's no space between the chromosome black tiles like there are the black tiles on the wall, no white outline dividing each tile
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>>7744195
I don't really understand that picture
like what comparison are they trying to make between egg --> chicken and nut --> tree to then male --> female? and idk who in quadrant #4 is
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>>7744137
>Tried it, I was able to pull it off
>Realize I look like a hon with no hips ;_;
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>>7744197
stop repressing, the longer you wait the worse it will be
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>>7744199
can you elaborate on this post please?
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>>7744171
Whew
Yeah that's way intense for your first day back but then, it was gonna suck getting back into anyway, so may as well go hard and get it over with quickly right??
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>>7744212
Did you repress or did you just dive in head first?
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>>7744198
See >>7744202
You are making arguments that the male body can be modified to appear female, not that you're biologically female.

The only thing biologically female about you is your mind. In order to be biologically X, the defining traits of X need to be developed naturally.
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Does ufufu ever come here anymore?
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>>7744222
I repressed until I was 22 and believe me life would have been a lot easier if I transitioned at 18
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>>7744186
hormones will

>>7744202
there are NO biological absolutes in biology, Charlotte.

please tell me at least you understand this.
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>>7744224
she came here a couple of days ago, but other than that, pretty much never anymore
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>>7744229
Thanks.

Later losers
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Attn: anon asking about me

I'm alive and happy hence why I'm not here anymore
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>>7744218
Yeah that's a good point haha get the pain outta the way! I tried taking aspirin but it did nothing so I am just gonna take it easy today.
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>there are people in this thread that do not believe trans women are biologically male
Learn the difference between genotype and phenotype jfc. No amount of wishy washy phenotypical changes will make us biologically female.

That's not to say we aren't women, but don't delude yourself, accept reality.
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>>7744224
No unfortunately. I think she's gone for good.

>>7744226
Everything is going to end up okay in the end Wang. A year or two is not all that much.

>>7744232
I don't want to see you here any more lad.
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>>7744227
Here's a thought exercise:
Do me a favor and list what distinguishes a human male from his female counterpart. List everything you can think of, in as broad terms as you'd like.
I'll explain the next step when you're done.
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>>7744226
Thing is though, asians have this thing with eldest sons of eldest sons of etc etc, and that just so happened to be me. In fact im the only son so i cant just do a disappearing act and let another "eldest son" take care of it.

Practically since birth i'd been micromanaged to never ever ever do anything outside of societal norms and i mean like i gotta admit, switching genders (physically anyway) is pretty fucking big.

Along with these responsibilities is like my generation of family and extended senpai who i will have to "preside" (not trying to sound douchey but my family is traditional as fuck) over and set a role model for. I mean like sure i can just tell em to fuck off and let me do what i want. But its basically been hard coded into me since birth. The psych tried her best to break the mold for 6 months and i dare say she didn't put a scratch on it. Only a temporary lapse in concentration or euphoric sensation got me that close to hormones.

Also i want kids and dont want to be a hon ;-;
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oh lord
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>>7744223
what exactly is biologically female then, in your opinion?

name one trait that occurs exclusively and always in a "biological female"

indeed, there's no such thing, you only have a group off characteristics that *usually* appear.

There's no way to scientifically prove someone is a biological female, but there's no way to prove someone is a biological male either. Therefore, since our bodies are decidedly more female than male post-transition, it's ridiculous to say we have male biology
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>>7744205
I'm not sure what you're saying...
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>>7744237
yeahh I don't really understand the perspective to deny it
DNA is still male...also what does it really matter that we are biologically male? just be happy, it doesn't invalidate your identity or how you want to live at all
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>>7744245
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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>>7744246
Natural development of uterus, ovaries, vaginal tissue and production of estrogen.
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who cares about chromosomes lmao i havent seen anybodys chromosomes ever its wholly irrelevant to human interaction
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>>7744245
BAKA
wew freaking lass
why would anyone write this article about themselves? have some self-awareness, my goodness
how could this possibly be a good idea
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>>7744232
That's great news. I'm not here that often anymore either and was just wanting to check in on all the trips I "follow" here to see how they're doing.
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>>7744251
Exactly.
Like, I literally think accepting your biology is part of accepting yourself as trans. Stepping around it is just ignoring unpleasant truths.
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>>7744251
>what does it really matter that we are biologically male?
I could ask the same of every poster here who insists upon calling us biological males.
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>>7744246
Lmao the delusion
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>>7744245

This is why therapists need to gatekeep.
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>>7744256
aren't there intersex men with those?
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>>7744245
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I want to start lactating for a while with Domperidone. has anyone done here done this? Did your breasts change afterward?
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>>7744245
HAHAHAHAHAHA

WOO!

hahahahaaa
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>>7744265
>insists upon
yeah coming into a tranny thread spamming stuff about chromosomes and biology is definitely pointless
they're just looking for a reaction and some (You)s

still doesn't mean they're wrong
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>>7744245
https://theestablishment.co/japanese-cartoon-porn-helped-me-understand-my-trans-identity-d5bba16cdaf3?gi=d4441c38c3ef

"Futanari is a Japanese word literally meaning “dual form” or “to be of two kinds,” and is used to describe various states of hermaphroditism and androgyny, depending on the context. When discussing pornography—as we’ll be doing for the next 600 words or so—futanari, commonly shortened to “futa,” is a genre of Japanese cartoon porn that stars women with penises. Some have testicles, some don’t; some have vaginas, some don’t. Internet perverts have argued for years over what types of futa, if any, make the consumer gay, but at 13, I had no interest in codifying the nuances. The extent of my thought process at that time was my sudden knowledge that being a dickgirl was probably the best thing I could ever be."

Are you sure this is not some spoof?
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Is it really such a contentious issue within the trans community whether MTFs are biologically male or not? I thought it was self-evident enough and explanations to the contrary seem a bit of a stretch, but I'm more interested in how divisive a topic it seems to be.

Interesting stuff, perhaps I can use this to stir up drama in the future.
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>>7744197
you mustn't be trans because no person suffering from gender dysphoria would reconsider or put off hrt.

>>7744237
you sure are biologically male, allan ;)
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>>7744269
They're intersex, not male or female. They have some of both.

The definition of intersex is legitimately that you have both XX and XY chromosomes lol.
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>>7744273
reported
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>>7744244
I'm also the oldest """""son""""" and dealt with similar albeit less inflexible attitudes, dealt with fear of being a 'failed male', and dealt with the issue of not having kids or being a hon.

I talked through these things with my parents when I came out, and they actually reassured me a fair bit. You can still be a successful woman, transitioning doesn't make you a failure. You also can still have biological kids, by freezing some of your sperm or by using a sibling's sperm/eggs.

You have a right to be happy, regardless of what your family thinks. You didn't choose to be born, you don't owe your family anything. The vast majority of people turn out fine (ie: not hons) given the right mix of genetics, starting early enough, and hard work. Your parents will always love you and just want you to be happy.
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>>7744238
RUDE

You probably won't see me much here anymore tho desu

>>7744245
I wrote this

>>7744260
Awwwhhhhhhh, and how are you doing Breana??
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>>7744281
What did I do?
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I can't fucking decide if I want to go trans or not
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>>7744277
Lollllll I'll have to keep an eye out for you so I don't get baited.
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>>7744277
yes, I am just learning this as well
I didn't realize people will try to outright deny these things that are facts that don't really even matter

but I guess it must make them feel less valid or something?
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i don't even have chromosomes

my entire body is constructed out of wire
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>>7744277
my point wasn't that mtfs aren't biologically male, but that it's not really accurate to say they are biologically male and not biologically female post transition

>>7744279
fair enough, i'll concede because i'm not that well informed about this
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>>7744287
pros: its cool and trendy
cons: you'll be miserable forever
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>>7744276
"The extent of my thought process at that time was my sudden knowledge that being a dickgirl was probably the best thing I could ever be."

;_;
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>>7744283
>You probably won't see me much here anymore tho desu
Don't get me wrong, I am goign to miss you but if this place is not right for you... ciao bellissimo.

I haven't been coming here all that often myself. With my work, training and the fact this place has gone boring I might drop it it all together in the near future.
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>>7744294
obviously lol
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>>7744275
>they're just looking for a reaction and some (You)s
Are you saying they're not lol?
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30 days
I was expecting to be a blubbering mass by this point
I guess my misogyny wasn't accurate
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>>7744298
Some boys dream of being of astronauts and some of being abominations.
Interdasting.
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>>7744269
>>7744283
I'm decent! Still chugging along with the hormones. The little facial hair I have left is my bitch. December tried to kill me, as did most of 2016, but I came out on top. Looking forward to an even harder 2017.

Threw in some biotin and pygeum for fun with my hormones. Can definitely notice the biotin. We'll see about the pygeum. Things are kind of weird with my roommate, but we agreed to downplay Valentine's this year.

My extent of "presenting" female so far is light make up and female t-shirts under male hoodies. I don't insist I'm female but I'm getting really comfortable with the feminine guy life.
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>>7744265
because it triggers you so easily
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>>7744296
What if I just went trap mode?

I'm pretty sure I'm just AGP but I really don't like a lot of masculine things. What does it feel like to be dysphoric?
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>>7744298
>The extent of my thought process at that time was my sudden knowledge that being a dickgirl was probably the best thing I could ever be.
>my sudden knowledge that being a dickgirl was probably the best thing I could ever be.
>being a dickgirl was probably the best thing I could ever be.
>being a dickgirl
>the best thing I could ever be.
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>>7744309
Traps are just trannies in training anon.
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>>7744276
I'd ironically love to be a futa; I want to be indistinguishably female but I like my dick. I'd even take a bigger one. The balls can go or stay. If I had a vagina and a dick I'd be pretty happy but wanting two genitals seems selfish.
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>>7744160
they can piss at home
all 4 of them
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>>7744288
I'm afraid you don't have a choice, Charlotte. If my bored, wandering eye happens to fall upon you while I'm itching for a bit a mischief, there'll be no avoiding my devilry. You're a natural drama magnet anyway, but I'm sure you're already aware of that.

>>7744294
>>7744289
Very interesting stuff. I learn something new every time I come here.

It's rarely useful, but still.
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>>7744282
So what would you recommend then?

Going back at it with all my preperation thrown in the bin (although i did keep my skincare stuff, i still use it and actually blog on it!), and delayed by another 5-6 months, aswell as just the psychological aspect of thinking "started at -20- instead of -19-", it's all pushing me further away.

Im just assuming things here, but born into the type of situations we were, we have instilled in us a certain kind of near paranoia OCD to worry about the future and everytime i even think about transition, an absolute torrential downpour of words come flooding in like "economic issues, relationship, kids, time, family, hons" but mostly about money. I can't just pull out a small loan of a million dollars.

How did you get past the worrying?
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>>7744276
>>7744245
as a chaser, why can't all trannies be like this?
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>>7744325
Because we aren't all autistic.
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>>7744319
Having a dick is such a burden, though.
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>>7744328
>Because we aren't all autistic.
Could have fooled me.
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she's so preeeeeeeettttttttttttyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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>>7744332
Hey, it just means you're in good company.
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>>7744325
Cuz not all trannies visit 4chan bruv. Most of them are from reddit.

"In college, everything changed. Not only did I have access to high-speed campus internet, the student body had also set up an illicit file-sharing network that contained untold terabytes of movies, games, music—and porn. Between that and my newfound friends on 4chan (I know), I had all the X-rated resources I’d lacked in high school, and none of the supervision."

"But it only took so long before I had to admit: I was jealous. I could barely contain my envy when the hero of Hinemosu Notari’s Mirror Image crossdressed so hard he became a futa, and I saw too much of myself in the shy-but-slutty futas and femboys of the artist InCase. Still, I managed to convince myself I wasn’t trans; I just wanted to live in a girl’s body, like the protagonist in Custom Girl who plays a futuristic VR game that allows him to experience sex as a woman! That’s normal for boys to desire fervently and constantly, right?"

>Incase
What shit taste.
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>>7744309
the issue is trap mode isn't going to last very long if you're producing testosterone, you're going to inevitably start becoming too manly

agp is the reason I took hormones
ironically I now actually feel dysphoria when I never did before my body changed
I'm not really in a position to give advice as I'm not yet fully female-looking
I've always been very submissive so in that way this is overall better...but I'm not sure if I've doomed myself to a life of misery for it
personally I feel as though hormones have actually made me transgender, when it was just agp-fueled interest before. but my agp also made it really hard to enjoy sex or relationships
again I'm not really in a position to give advice yet, I'm still learning myself
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>>7744337
fucking hell.

I suppose there isn't much to lament
they are already a failure of a man
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>>7744314
What about just a femboy then?

Idk I just wanna fucking be cute n shit, and now's the time to make that decisison
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>>7744330
It does kind of put a damper on the yoga pants and leggings, doesn't it? Gotta wear a long top with it.

It gets in the way less than the long hair does, especially with the balls shrinking. The downside is I have a dick. The up side is I have a dick.
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how did you figure out if your name was a good fit for you?
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>>7744261
i accept the first part,
the 2nd part is not acceptable
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>>7744340
agp is pure fetish
T blockers kill your sex drive

didn't you realize that it wasn't the way to go when you couldn't rationalize doing it any more?
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>>7744336
Wew, when you bite Grace, she bites back.
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>>7744224
Not really
Why don't you just text her?
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>>7744345
Dunno
I'm crap at tucking so it makes wearing pants an anxious thing
Idc tho I'm down for you to have a big dick go for it pls share it with me
>>7744351
Don't make yourself such an easy target, it's too hard to resist.
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>>7744340
>though hormones have actually made me transgender
You were trans all along Anon, time to admit it and stop making excuses
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>>7744346
i've always liked it since i met a really cool girl in highschool who had it
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>>7744299
It's not so much that this place isn't right for me, it's more that if I'm here things probably aren't going so great.
It's seems pretty much the same as always, maybe you just don't like this seasons characters?
I still have your Skype somewhere, so even if I don't come here you'll see me again.
Hope you're intonation good routine and in tip top shape. And that your job is going well. And if I don't talk to you by the time it comes around that your move goes well too.

>>7744307
>I'm getting really comfortable with the feminine guy life
Same here desu. I don't have a guy or girl mode anymore I have a me mode.
I'm really glad to hear you're doing well!!
I was actually wondering about you the other day
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>>7744356
A girl called Sertiii?
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>>7744344
Nigga you can't be "cute and shit" if you're a grown male. And being over 18, you are a grown male, no matter what infantile "femboy" bullshit is being thrown around.
So you either hop on the fem&m's now or you hop on them later on when you reach the femboy age cut-off point. Either way it's a shitty way to live. But hey, if you want to live out your sexual fantasies you gotta sacrifice something.
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>>7744235
That seems like a good idea!
Going to the gym two days in a row usually isn't the greatest anyway
>>7744245
Delete this
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>>7744360
Irini
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>>7744333
True
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>>7744346
I dunno, I looked through girl names and nothing was really sticking out to me, so I decided since I'm a history dweeb I'd look at some older ones. Ran across Grace and just kinda knew it would be mine, despite my total lack of grace. Everyone seems to like it, now, I've had people tell me about how it fits me well and stuff so I guess it's the right choice.
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>>7744132
For me
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>>7744361
>AGP isn't a valid reason to go trans
>You have to be TruTrans (TM) if you wanna go on them tittysprinkles
Why did I ever even think this was a good idea, fucking trannies are so batshit insane, I'd never fit in
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The hole just keeps getting deeper and deeper.

"Transitioning was inevitable for me as well. Once I read Katou Jun’s Avatar Transform!, there was only so much I could do to deny it. Similar to Custom Girl, the hero in Katou’s story explores a futanari body in a VR world, while slowly abandoning all pretense at maleness in real life. The more I read the chapters in which he realizes a woman’s body in VR feels more natural than his own, the less I could deny it: I wanted that. I wanted to be cute, girlish, even beautiful. It took until the summer of 2015—more than 10 years after I first read Tilt Mode—to begin coming out to my friends and family, and months more to begin hormone therapy. But I did it, and the results have been more fulfilling than I could ever have imagined."

"Futa didn’t make me a dyke-y trans girl. It just helped me realize that’s who I wanted to be. Hopefully, it will help other fledgling dickgirls realize it sooner than I did."

I should have known it was a transbian.
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>>7744370
Start your own secret club of sane trannies.
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>>7744355
I'd go out on a limb and say it's the female hormones causing them to think they're female
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>>7744346
>I want to keep my initials and I don't want to change things much
>Christine is cute but I want it to flex in Latin, too
And so Christopher became Christina.
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>>7744357
>Senpai thought about me the other day
Awesome, I did the same! About you, I mean. Glad to hear you're still doing great.

My "me mode" is still in the works. Slowly trying more things and if I really like them or if I'm comfortable with them I keep them for a while. Finding me is nice. I hope to find more of me this year.
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>>7744349
its not pure fetish though, at least not the way I experience it
its felt to me for my whole life an actual sexual orientation. one of the earliest sex dreams I ever had, I had a vagina and was having sex with a guy. I'd never watched porn, never had any influence that I can think of that caused it. my brain just did it (and I considered myself "straight" at the time and thought gays were gross)
aspects of it are fetish-y, like the being aroused in female clothing, but that doesn't happen to me anymore
I was never properly able to enjoy any kind of relationship with men or women because it didn't feel right. sex always felt really awkward and not arousing (outside of kissing) and I started to actively avoid it altogether
when I look in the mirror and see how much cuter I've gotten, it doesn't turn me on at all, it makes me excited for my future and excited at the thought of having a boyfriend and the dynamic of the relationship that will come with that
I've always been so envious of long pretty hair and loved touching and playing with my girlfriend's, and that has no sexual aspect at all. I just love the way it looks and I love having long feminine hair because it makes me happy

>>7744355
idk honestly
but like I said I'm still figuring things out
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>>7744376
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I was too scared to buy lady speed stick so I'm officially a man again
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>>7744380
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>tfw comfy
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>>7744376
>And so Christopher became Christina.
That is hilarious.
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>>7744379
that's fetish
sexual arousal of a non-sexual thing, gender
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>>7744383
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what kind of longer tops are good with leggings? I think I'm tucking well enough but I'm still really self-conscious of not wearing something that cover that area
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>>7744364

i wanna look like dis
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>>7744354
>Don't make yourself such an easy target, it's too hard to resist.
I can see why you're such a favourite on the chaser discord now.
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>>7744392
Get yerself a tunic
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>>7744346
My name doesn't technically fit me. I think Breana has a certain amount of womanly-ness to it and at best i'm a soft tomboy. It also sounds confident which I am not.

Someone said here that a name doesn't have to "fit you' yet, names are given to you with the hopes you become that kind of person.

My parents knew I didn't like Brandy (too obvious) or Brittany (I am definitely not a Brittany, I think my mom picked that with the thought I was becoming a girly pink-wearing sissy boy), so Dad's second pick Breana it is.

I immediately fell in love with it when my friend started called me Bree.
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>>7744393
Edie ffs when??
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>>7744394
What, are they betas that like being bullied? Or do a few have a spine and appreciate banter?
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>>7744371
I'm a "transbian" (well, bi) and I'm not remotely like this. C'mon.
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>>7744397
Bree sounds adorable
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>>7744393
then why do you look like a a cabbage patch kid with grey hair

don't answer, I don't care
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>>7744394
>chaser discord

i still find it hilarious that this exists and im morbidly curious as to what goes on in there
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>>7744321
>You're a natural drama magnet anyway
It's my vice. Some people have alcohol, I have drama.
God dammit lol.
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>>7744393
I feel it
She looks like a goddess desu
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>>7744387
ok call it what you want
the label isn't something that bothers me, it just seems to have connotations that aren't accurate
it was hard to be in a relationship before, whereas now I can finally see myself in one
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>>7744398

later dis year. not sure if i want anything other than brow tho idk.

>>7744404

i get bored

>>7744407

right? same with one of the models they did her wedding makeup look on
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>>7744368
Yay just what I had hoped you would reply :3
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hey, bitches.
what's going on in here?
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>>7744409
fetishes don't require partners
and it's nothing to be ashamed of
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>>7744401
You should keep that to yourself. Being a transbian and all.
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>>7744346
I said it aloud a few times and tried going by it here.

I just thought it was pretty and perfectly balanced between common and uncommon.
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>>7744414
you sound spooked
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>>7744412
Superweeb has returned.
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when do I have my first period
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>>7744419
use a knife to dilate and youll start gushing tbqh
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>>7744410
Oh ur gonna get ffs?

And yeah honestly middle eastern/Arabic looking women are turbo gorgeous just to die for beautiful really
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>>7744394
$5 says my name has never come up in any positive way.
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>>7744418
damn fuckin straight i'm superweeb
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I used to get really said that, despite having a few friends in school, I'd never be "one of the girls" for them. Subjects would always change when I was around, that kind of stuff. I guess it makes sense I ended up slowly drifting away from them.
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>>7744400
It's no fun picking on someone who just lies down and takes it.

>>7744405
A bit of this, a bit of that. Some discussion, some information sharing.

There's some creepy characters down there, Sertii. You're probably better off not thinking about it.
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>>7744413
well maybe this is why it isn't totally a fetish
I think about cuddling with a boy all the time, ten thousand times more than I think about dressing up as a girl or growing boobs
I'm really not ashamed of it at all, I'm not going to go around boasting about it, but I certainly don't feel ashamed or guilty
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>>7744421
is there a youtube guide?
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>>7744419
Any minute now anon.

https://theestablishment.co/yes-trans-women-can-get-period-symptoms-e43a43979e8c?source=user_profile---------9----------
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>not already knowing i have BPD and that i change my look nonstop

i'm trying to look more like i would naturally look if i had a healthy tan and my natural hair color pls support me no bully pls
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>>7744381
I know this feeling. I promised myself as I ran out of male-oriented products I'd replace them with female or neutral products. I walked back and forth about which to get. It took me like 5 minutes to pick up deodorant.

I went with the lowest key looking deodorant with the most casual smell possible; plus that's me I guess.

My mom smelled it on me and says she likes it. She switched to it too. Lol.
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>>7744429
As long as you can take the bite in stride, I don't want no butthurt manbabies
>>7744432
STOP
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how stop eating
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>>7744215
i mean wikipedia would be a good place to start and then, you can use this awesome tool
http://bfy
.tw/A30T
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>>7744430
doesn't matter how gay/straight you are, it doesn't negate a fetish

it doesn't have to be the focus of your identity to be called a fetish
you don't even have to acknowledge it
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>>7744427
https://youtu.be/LR4XNqrqxrU
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>>7744432
who is this, & why are they allowed to write such retarded articles?
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>>7744242
ok done
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nobody cares about your neurosis edward
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>>7744423

ye am need FFS to be happy. i want to get my brow done for sure, but my nose and lip lift i wanna are more just like ... "make u more pretty" surgeries so idk
and it's kinda more westernized so i'm unsure if i wanna remove that part of myself.
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>>7744444
nice get
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>>7744442
Stop being such a shitlord weeb.
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>>7744432
blease stob
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>>7744438
lol nice
your post didn't really make any fucking sense so I wanted you to explain it, and apparently you can't
getting an obnoxious response like that is pretty irritating honestly
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>>7744444

ty for dedicating quints to me
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>>7744443
Now cross off any that a male can't have without drugs or surgery, keeping in mind that many cis women feel like less of a woman because their bodies aren't feminine enough.
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What's the best way to determine if I'm trans or not?
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>>7744446
Adam's apple tho?? Idk if urs is prominent
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>>7744448
come on, stop being such a blowhard, i came here to have some fun.
& my idea of fun right now is to act like a shitlord weeb
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>>7744457
do you want to be a girl?
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>>7744457
what difference does it make, you're going to so what you want anyway
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>>7744457
What makes you think you might be trans?
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>>7744224
hey slut

>>7744230
bye slut
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>>7744457
Masturbate, then after cumming and cleaning up, ask yourself if you still want to be a girl.
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>>7744458

i don't have an adam's apple bb
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>>7744450
You don't want to read any more articles by Sam Reidel?
Pictured here.

>>7744470
That's very insightful.
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>>7744411
I'm hella gay for you too to be quite honest
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>>7744457
Do you want to female enough that you're willing to permanently destroy your fertility with hormones and never go back to being a man?
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>>7744471
everybody has one
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>>7744471
Nice
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>>7744472
haha she looks like that dude from wild wild west

i'm sorry
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>>7744457
can you imagine living as a man and being satisfied for the rest of your life?
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>>7744470

I realized I haven't fapped in days the other day.
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>>7744454
ok
that one's pretty hard because i come from a family of doctors and i used to see their books so I know of males with gynecomastia wide hips and small stature which have reproduced biologically. and women who never developed female secondary sexual characteristics and stuff.....so. what should I do?
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>>7744480
Congratulations, you now have penis atrophy.
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>>7744457
A full month on HRT.
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>>7744440
>it doesn't negate a fetish
honestly I think you're focusing on the wrong parts of what I'm trying to say
would a fetish like being a furry be something that someone has thoughts, feelings, and dreams about as a child before actually knowing what a furry was or ever viewing furry porn?

I'm genuinely asking, I'm not trying to make a statement with the question
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>>7744457
probs just flip a coin honestly
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>>7744457
Take hormones for a month or two
You will either want to stop or continue for the rest of your life
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>>7744483
i should at least try to as well, it's been like a month and a half
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>>7744483
how often do you have to?
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>>7744131
the way you fixed that to the wall makes me want to kill myself
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>>7744446
Hmm I mean
Ye brow I feel it, I want that too 100%
Nose and lips though ye, that's tough
Idk man
I've wanted some stuff done to my face, but now that I'm older I'm more ambivalent about those things; idk I hate to lose the qualities that make me "me"; although this husk of flesh is nothing but a vessel through which our soul passes so also who even cares lol
I hope you are able to make a descion you are happy with though
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>>7744475

i thought it was clear that the implication in that context was that i don't have a noticeable one

>>7744476

still have bad brow doe and big irani nose.
but otherwise i have high cheekbones and big lips and a rounded hairline and all that other shit cause i'm ethnic so at least there's that
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>>7744460
>>7744462
Yes
>>7744466
The fact that I constantly think about being a girl
>>7744470
Usually when I crossdress and fap I feel bad after
>>7744474
Not really
>>7744479
Maybe
>>7744485
>>7744491
How do I do this without the >self med meme
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>>7744480
Careful, if you go too long without you may lose your ability to get erections. Which may or may not be appealing, just something to be aware of.
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>>7744482
Well then I guess we're all just humans and gender is a social construct, huh.

If that's the case, explain to me how babies are made.
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>>7744493
I've heard once a week.
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>>7744483

Wonderful!

In other news 19 days until I travel home to tell my mother.

>>7744485

Worked for me DESU.
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>>7744497
Try crossdressing and not fapping.

>>7744500
Does it count if you don't cum?
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>>7744215
read this article
http://www.nature.com/news/sex-redefined-1.16943
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>>7744497
you might as well just self med
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>>7744500
it makes me feel ill but I think I want srs
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>>7744486
yes, and I experienced it too
if diaperfags trigger you then stop reading here

I can't remember how young I was, but I was still in primary school, so not older than 11.
I saw an episode of tom and jerry that triggered something in me. It made me feel a certain way, and I couldn't explain it. I didn't know what it was for years (pre internet days). It wasn't explicitly sexual, because I didn't know what sexual feeling where, I was prepubescent. The idea of sexual feelings was abstract to my still developing brain. Like why adults think coffee tastes good.
when we finally got internet the thought crossed my mind again and I looked it up.
The relief I felt when I saw that others had the same feelings as me and unforgettable.
It still took a while to come to terms with it, I didn't like it at first but I was stuck with it.

So yeah.
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>>7744492
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>>7744471
tfw no Adam's apple.
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anyway, i've been looking for a job, & i got an interview scheduled.
feels great.
so excited.

i've also been taking calculus. the only hard part is algebra. derivatives are pretty cool, i guess.

btw, i know i've been acting like a total dudebro faggot, but i'm a timid loser irl. but i do like being around people more
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>>7744497
>Not really
Alright, are you willing to become a woman so much you'll put some sperm away for safe keeping them destroy your fertility except for your back ups?

Also I'm going to say you should tempt yourself and do the self med meme. At worst you get bitch tits. Also you should try making yourself more feminine if you haven't already. That includes losing that "male weight", body hair, and getting rid of the repression beard.
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>>7744496
Yeee u do well. It's just the side profile that needs to change I guess. That's my prob too. Idk what I can change without turning my face into something uncanny tho
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>>7744497
Talk to your doctor about wanting to start HRT, they may refer you to a psychiatrist and endocrinologist.

Or you can look for an informed consent clinic.
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>>7744505
You should do some research on the causes of intersex conditions. Instead of spouting about muh spectrum.
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>>7744510
I hate myself.
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>>7744510
heck off
its not fair
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>>7744521
smae
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>>7744509
uhh
what
the boner just pushes out
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Anyone read El Goonish Shive?

This image right here hit me like a ton of bricks. If I could choose what gender I'd be stuck as...
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>>7744510
how much are trachea shaves anyway?
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>>7744510
Remind me to slice my own throat later.
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>>7744499
>implying the ability to reproduce defines your gender.
lol wut
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>>7744497
Talk your therapist into writing the letter, and getting a endo or doc to prescribe them.

>>7744499
plain old sexual reproduction. Hardwired gender roles helps the participants find each other.
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>>7744510
Even if you had one your beard would cover it up.
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>>7744527
very cheap, less than 2k in yurop
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>>7744524
It's for people who don't get boners

>>7744529
What's this?
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>>7744508
that is interesting, pretty much exact same for me when I was that same age with episodes of cartoons where characters were turned into girls/dressed up as girls
didn't know what sexual attraction was, I just knew it was extremely captivating
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>7744503
Whenever I CD and don't fap I feel awesome

>>7744514
Yeah I'd freeze some cum for that, but I really don't know about destroying my fertility, I'd really have to think about that

>>7744518
>>7744531
I guess if I'm not willing to try self med then I'm not really trans
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>>7744529
a huge part of the concept of gender does revolve around reproduction.
another significant part revolves around common tastes, though conservatives don't like to acknowledge that
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>>7744534
I live in US so it probably more :c
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Can I ask a kind of awful question?

I've met a lot of people who were trans and on HRT who were sort of immature and melodramatic in the same way an awkward teenager would be. I've also got trans friends who aren't like this, but... Like I was wondering if HRT might make some people act like an overly emotional teenage girl because it's similar to the rush of hormones a young girl gets during puberty, and I'm afraid to ask because I know how much of an asshole this question makes me.
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>>7744545
Probably a factor, yeah.
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>>7744521
>>7744522
oh don't be jelly, I'm 6' 0" and my shoulders are 19"
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>>7744545
LGBT people in general tend to be like that, at least at a much higher rate than the general population
there's more going on than just hormones
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>>7744546
I'd try under doctor supervision, but I'm really scared about how people would react to me
I don't even try CD'ing in public because of that
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>>7744545
the reason behind that is more likely to be a lifetime of dysphoria causing mental problems and messing with socialization in various ways. Hormones themselves might be a factor, but i'd say less so
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>>7744538
makes me think that shezow was deliberately made to trigger latent AGP kids
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>>7744554
But I'm 6'1 and my shoulders are 19" too
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>>7744529
You didn't answer the question.

>>7744531
Bingo. Essentially, transitioning is a form of changing our sexual signalling from male to female, and thus tricking people into believing we're fertile. But we're not. We had to take artificial hormones for people to believe it, if they do at all.

>>7744539
Ok. Idk where I'm going with this lol.
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If ive basically 100% confirmed im trans (the whole wrong body thing), and i see no future as my current self but still dont transition,

Am i basically just killing myself?
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>>7744545
Yes trannies are generaly a histrionic bunch prone to acting in an exaggerated manner due to not knowing better.
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>>7744561
not familiar with that show, but just off the top of my head I can still remember an episode of the fairly odd parents where timmy was turned into a girl, and also danny phantom taking control of female's bodies, both really catching my interest...for some reason hahaHAHAHA
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>>7744566
you weighed up the pros and cons
it's called rationality

eventually you'll start to ignore it
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>>7744566
Yep. That's the conclusion I drew around this time last year lol, and decided I would transition or quit wasting my time suffering.
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>>7744558
It's normal to be really scared of how people will react. It's worth it to push past that and at least discuss the matter with a therapist.
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>>7744555
you're disgusting, you know that?
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>>7744568
that's after my time
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>>7744566
yes

at least, it's possible that you won't actually kys, but you will be an extremely broken person by then, basically not human
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>>7744520
I have done a lot of research on intersex conditions. I know I'm among them. Likely due to my being a chimera.
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>>7744576
you know you want to lick it
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>>7744582
chimera a good
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>>7744577
jeez how old are you, apparently shezow came out in 2012
what age did you first notice agp feelings? you called it latent
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>>7744582
So then intersex doesn't mean gender is a spectrum, it just means you have the genetics of two people in one body, right?
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>>7744587
NESSIE
You're back!
What happened? I was worried about you!
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>>7744544
I unironically think it would be cheaper to fly to Europe to have it done in the US.
I see someone paid $3900 for it in Minnesota, $3500 in Texas. The range goes up to $6000 and average is $4500. Jesus fuck. The rhinoplasty is averaging $5000 on top of that. Those are all I want (even though I might need more) but god damn.
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>>7744551
>>7744559
Okay. Thanks for taking this question seriously. I know there are a lot of things that are really hard for trans people and the mental issues thing makes a lot of sense as well- if you're always worried about people treating you like shit and grew up repressing your natural desires to do things cis women take for granted I guess you might be kinda messed up.

It's just frustrating because I wanna be supportive to anyone doing whatever makes them happy- I've been discriminated against for other things about my identity and it sucks. But... I don't really like annoying teenage girls and I don't like adult women who act like annoying teenage girls either, so when I meet someone who is trans I always worry she'll end up being like that.
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>>7744594
hey sorry anner, i took a little break, been doing stuff

how are you? hope things are going well :3
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>>7744595
oh...
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>>7744585
no, it just makes me want to avoid sweets even more now
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>>7744600
I'm so glad you're okay!
I'm good, made Frangi my girlfriend and we're having lots of fun together. Gonna see her again on Tuesday for Valentine's!
Also HRT is doing its thing, making my nips be sensitive and stuff
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If I use this as my phone case, am I gonna just ramp up my clockability?
The rose gold matches her hair really well...
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>>7744589
>2012 is considered a long time ago
Geez, I've gotten old...
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>>7744608
worth it
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>>7744572
Maybe I'll start with doing the regular girly shit like painting my nails or something, and if that doesn't feel right, it should tell me that I'm not trans, right?
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>>7744597
It's not an irrational worry; just try not to hold it against someone before they show evidence of it.
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>>7744602
Why would you avoid sweets?
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>>7744593
Chimeraism can be a type of intersex. Some people also just have fucked up hormones in the womb and their biology is weird and they have ambiguous genitalia. Some people are XXY (Klinterfelter Syndrome), some people have a Y with no SRY-gene and look phenotypically female, some people have are the opposite and are XX and have a SRY-gene on one of those that told their body to make a penis and skimp on the uterus.
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>>7744608
i'd get 1 w/ a kitten on it or something tbdesu
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>>7744580
Shit. i dont think i'll commit subaru, but i love my senpai so much, im afraid of hurting them if i change...

>>7744571
wish it wasnt so late for me...

>>7744570
When i did my research though, i heard so much about the horror stories of people no longer being able to ignore it and then either getting stupidly depressed or turning into hons

I mean like i actually see some happiness with transitioning but i am deathly scared of uncertainty, and transitioning is a big ass question mark in terms of "family,financials,jobs etc"
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>>7744618

Because theyy're very bad for you, you dumb fatty.
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>>7744605
oh cool, you two are really cute!
also iktf, hormones are doing some cool stuff
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>>7744608
A G P
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>>7744608
>pleb is akarin
very appropriate desu
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>>7744616
Plenty of cis females don't do 'regular girly shit' either, so unfortunately that alone won't tell you for sure whether you're trans; that said, you may want to try such things and see if you like it, but if you don't you could still be a trans tomboy.
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>>7744527
i dunno :p

>>7744533
touché! I'm gettin laser tho.

>>7744535
it's what happens when you don't moisturize your penis on hrt

>>7744540
But then it's like post menopausal women shouldn't be called women.

It's like when Plato defined humanity as a bipedal animal without feathers and Diogenes plucked a chcken and showed it to Plato saying say hi to your brother.
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>>7744621
you're asking people who did it
they need others to do it too, to validate their own decisions
you won't get a fair answer here

if you're serious, speak to a therapist
if you don't want to do that, I guess you have your answer
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>>7744623
they make me happy when I eat them though!
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>>7744565
No, my gender signaling has always been female. I just got stuck with the wrong sex body. I'm correcting that.

>>7744593
No, chimera is just one of the many types of intersex conditions. There are over 30 know ones sofar. This interesting thing is XX/XY chimerism like I have is often found in true hermaphrodites. IE, those born with both male and female reproductive tissues.

Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome is another intersex condition.

A person could have normal genetics, but for some reason the target sex changed during gonadal formation so they end up with genitals that are mixed and in between male and female.

There are also many other types.
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>>7744473
Just what I wanted to hear <3

>>7744624
Thank you so much!!
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>>7744597
understandable, being trans doesn't give you an excuse to act that way. It's just often trans people are more... broken than most other people.

>>7744621
you'll hurt them more in the long run by letting repression turn you into a non-human. You can't be there for them if you can't be yourself.
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>>7744624
Yeee
So no more ERPing! >///<
And yay! How far along are you again?
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>>7744623
Who are you calling a fatty you borderline anorexic tranny?
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damn, this pic is still pretty hilarious.
this bitch fucking thrilled as all hell to see that she still has a cunt, lol
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>>7744639
where is her butt, did it fall off or something
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>>7744632

PAIN IS JOY
TO SUFFER IS TO LIVE
SMOTHER THY WANTS
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>>7744623
anything is bad for you in excess
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>>7744629
>Trans tomboy
Doesn't that just make me a faggot tho
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>>7744630
well, i am a big fan of diogenes
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>>7744646

The mantra of the fucking idiot.
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>>7744649
>Doesn't that just make me a faggot tho
yes.
nothing wrong with being a faggot though, ok
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I get triggered so badly by nails

I know they're quintessential hon, but I can't help it
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>>7744645
b-but I was just about to eat cap'n crunch...
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Oh God I'm Scared.
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>>7744653
:(
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>>7744618
>Taking that big of bites of steak
>Eating ALL the sides before even touching the steak
ReeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>7744634
it's cool, you two seem good together

>>7744638
oh dont worry about that, and i'm one month in, so only some small changes like skin and stuff
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>>7744621
>and transitioning is a big ass question mark in terms of "family,financials,jobs etc"
Right??? I don't know where my life is going now. But it was going into buying a gun with one bullet.

Now I still might do that but my options have opened up now. If I become unemployed, my supportive family turns on me and I lose everything there's also ditches.

I literally don't know what name I'll be going by next year and it's terrifying and exciting.
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>>7744654
you going to argue otherwise?
have at it
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>tfw listening to a nice song on youtube but the cover is a pic of a grill so ur like :|
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>>7744663
>oh dont worry about that
I didn't lol
Just thought it'd be good to say in advance lmao
I-I'm not good with normal interaction

>you two seem good together
Thaaaanks

>>7744668
But you're a pretty girl too! <3
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>>7744656
This'll be a long quest I guess, but my wanting to be a girl comes and goes like a fuckton of other things about me
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>>7744244
Fellow Asian here.That's a shame you have all the family pressure. My family have not been the best but I'm loving these Asian passing genetics :D
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>>7744649
Depends what you consider faggotry to be, I guess? But I don't think so.
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>>7744619
Ok, but those still aren't spectral, even if it does disprove the genetic binary. People still tend to look phenotypically male or female.

>>7744621
I can understand, but I can't empathize. How do people only wait for life to come to them on certain aspects?

>>7744633
Ok...? These are abnormalities though - androgen insensitivity is notorious for being "XY biological female".
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>>7744670
>normal interaction
>4chan
you funny
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>>7744672
please be my waifu
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>>7744664

Check your local ordinances and your companies policy.

My city just passed a law adding Gender Identity to non-discrimination.
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>>7744639
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>tfw dysphoria hit
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>>7744653

>white """"""[([([(<people>)])])]""""""
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>>7744657
Triggered by just nails, or painted nails?
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Aw look, you're still at it.

Still believing you can live as women. Why do you choose pain? Why not just be who you are?
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>>7744670
T-Thanks qt >-<
u2 desu desu senpai familia
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>>7744653
legit nasty
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>>7744244
>Also i want kids and dont want to be a hon ;-;
bank sperm.
>>7744671
hmm.
well
your gender presentation can be pretty flexible and can change as you wish, but your secondary sex characteristics are a bit more set in stone. so the real choice you have to make is about whether you want to be female hormonally, and have female secondary sexual characteristics
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>>7744605
Ahh I'm so jealous! I want sensitive nips too :(
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>>7744689
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>>7744639

She's much too thin, but if she was a great big fatty she wouldn't even be capable of dancing like that, and would smell ten times worse.

Not to mention the environmental impact of being a fatty-fat-fat.
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>>7744686
>implying they're even human
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>>7744687
any
given that I don't have them
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>>7744685
ISNT IT FUCKING GREAT?!?!?!?!?!?!!!
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>>7744631
I did. i still remember my first time uttering the words out loud to the GP to get my referral letter. I was dizzy the moment i walked out of the room and had to throw up in the toilet.

The therapist broke down a lot of walls, i even went on to see the next person (forgot the job title, but its the guy that gives the green light for HRT). But he saw some hesitation and confronted me about it and thats when i slowed things way down and backed off. I havent really gone to see any of them since. I'd have to go to the GP to get another referral if i wanted to go see the therapist again and just thinking of that instills such a sense of dread that i might aswell bid farewell to my family now.

>>7744637
But what if they cut you off? Conservative doesn't even begin to describe my family. Like really hardcore conservative asians from the countryside that immigrated first to the city then to a western country to provide their "son" a better life and future only for "him" (me) to turn around and say "kek gonna snip my dick off".

I know that last bit is hyperbole but that's honestly where my mind wanders to and it's terrifying to me.

But even through that i still went to see a therapist which tells myself just how desperate i was...

>>7744664
I'm not joking when i say im both happy and envious for/of you. I wish i had the courage, i wish the psych guy didn't sense my hesitation and i'd already be on 6 months now...

>>7744676
its not so much life comes to me, but its that i have so many things planned months, years, several decades in advance. With my country (Australia) and my job area (legal) drying up, ive had to work my finger to the bone to network and claw myself a future when i get out of uni.

To ditch all that and then not potentially have a family to fall back on, it's hard to "grab life by the throat" in a circumstance like that.
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>>7744694

Oh Anna. Been awhile. Hello.
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>>7744565
ok here's my answer
To say that sexual reproduction is the deciding factor to define gender is an goss oversimplification that doesn't merit a response.

say hello to your brother.
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>>7744662
>ReeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>7744686
>>7744691
Well someone's jealous.
>>
how do I make money from chasers
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>>7744699
no
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>>7744701
Hi Homura! Back to tripping, I see?
How's it going?
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>>7744707
sell their organs
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>>7744708
i know, it sucks
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>>7744710
That sounds good
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>>7744692
Whenever I see a hot girl, I feel like "I want that," but not "Ugh I hate being a guy"

Is that anything
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>>7744682
Are you handsome?
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>>7744694
<3
can't wait 'till Valentine's Day
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how do I get SWG to be my bf? asking for a friend.
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>>7744715
That's how I feel. I think it's worth trying to transition if you feel that way.
>>
i got an invite to do porn in LA. should i do it?
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>>7744702
Then why are you transitioning? If the difference between where you are in life and where you want to be is negligible, then why bother appropriating femininity? Why change when you can just be a girl that looks like a man?
>sarcasm, for all the newfags
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>>7744716
yes very much
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>>7744683
My state and city have no formal protection against gender identity or sexual orientation discrimination.

It's up to individual companies to decide if they want to include that in their policies. The company I work for does have one however. It's based in one of the blue states which is probably why; the employee forms you have to fill out after getting hired even specifically ask "Which gender do you identify as?".

>>7744700
The first endo I saw about hrt wanted at least a year of real life experience before he would feel comfortable starting hormones. Setup an appointment 3 months from them to give me time to "think about it". The great thing about being in the US and having no insurance is you can just pick another doctor because fuck it, they're all expensive.
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>>7744723
do you want to do it? what would this add to your life?
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>>7744709

Well, I had taken off the Trip, because to me, Homura represents a part of my life that was ruled by fear, when I chose to sit and do nothing, a part I want to put behind me, but people were like "You may as well keep it" and for now, I still want people to know how I'm doing. I feel like I've come a long way

That's why...on my birthday...or the day after...I'm coming out to my mother.

Once I pass this hurdle, then I'll be ready to go full throttle into becoming a woman.
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>>7744723
Just regular porn, or weird fetish stuff?
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>>7744717
Me neither! It'll be so much fun going on a real date with my qt girlfriend!
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>>7744727
Then notice me senpai <3
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>>7744723
why would you
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>>7744712
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>>7744676
I suggest going out to the Intersex Society of North America and reading up. Unfortunately they are defunct, but their web site is still online.
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>>7744732
Doesn't tranny porn fall under fetish stuff by default anyway?
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>>7744730
That's very good to hear! I'm really happy for you :)
You could change the trip if you want though, no reason to feel bad about something that easily taken care of!
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What's the best way to go trap mode without growing tits?
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>>7744741
im sorry, i shoudnt have joked about it, i know it can get pretty bad
sorry
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How do I get smiles to be my daughter? asking for a friend
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>>7744700
they sometimes do, if they are conservative cunts. Idk, I would say do it even if they do but i'd be talking from a position where this wouldn't really be a problem for me since i don't really depend financially on them. If you are able to find a place to stay and support yourself then do it. If they would hate me but at least not throw me out, I would absolutely still do it. Going through life with others hating you is a lot easier than living a life where you hate yourself
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>>7744752
it okay, eva just sad right now
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How do I get anon to be my friend? asking for a friend
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>>7744736
tbqh i lied and am a transbian
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>>7744751
Go ask /femgen/, I think they have an HRT option that feminizes without causing breast growth.

Or were you asking about how to be feminine without hormones? If so then that depends a lot on what you look like to start with.
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>>7744700

People say "If it's who you are, just do it", like all you have to do is believe in yourself and everything will be okay. That's bullshit, and, at the risk of sounding /tumblr/, a result of privilege.

Honestly, you're at a crossroads. You have to decide what you're going to do. Obviously, the longer you put off transition, the harder it will be, but you need to get yourself in a good place before you do start.

At the end of the day, though? It's going to be hard. You're going to lose family. The moment I come out, I will likely lose everyone on my dads side of the family and a good chunk of my moms. But I took the time to become self-sufficient, and while I'm starting later than I like...well, at least I'm starting.

>>7744728

Well, at least the job itself is secure, but it's likely you'll face discrimination anyway, so be prepared for that.

If they try to fire you, you'd have reason to complain to corporate unless they can document a job-related reason, but most of America is "At Will" meaning they can fire you for the reason of "I was kind of bored."
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>>7744759

Let me tie you up, or your friend, rather, and sexually exploit you.
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>>7744715
>Is that anything
yeah.
you dont necessarily have to abhor being male to consider transitioning.

I think it would be worth your time to seek out a therapist who specializes in gender stuff and talk through it with a professional.
But I know that isn't an option for everyone, in which case, more research about transitioning and trans people, and heavy self-reflection is all you can do.
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>>7744758
sorry, hope things get better
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im eating cake :3
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>>7744723
lmfao
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>Istanbul isn't the capital of Turkey
>Sydney isn't the capital of Australia (neither is Melbourne)
>Rio de Janiero isn't the capital of Brazil (neither is Sao Paolo)
>Moscow isn't the capital of Russia
>Toronto isn't the capital of Canada
>Jerusalem isn't the capital of Israel
>Zurich isn't the capital of Switzerland (neither is Geneva)
>Lagos isn't the capital of Nigeria
>Bolivia has two capital cities (South Africa has three)
>Mecca isn't the capital of Saudi Arabia
>New York isn't the capital of the USA
>New York City isn't the capital of New York State
>London is more than 300 miles further north than the most northern point of Maine
>a pony isn't a young horse
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>>7744734
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>>7744760
Yeah I only like guys... like a trutrans ^.^
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>>7744774
no you are AGP and you know it so release your sexual transbian urges tbqh
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>>7744697
w-what do you mean you don't have nails?
>>
I'm like 80% sure some random guy just called me 'fruit loops' when I was going to get food...

apparently I look gay now wtf
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>>7744772
>>Moscow isn't the capital of Russia
???
>>Jerusalem isn't the capital of Israel
???


>>7744773
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>>7744745

I've toyed with it, probably making a big deal of it DESU. But that's me, I make a big deal out of everything.

I'm just...it's nice to be known, to be seen.
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>>7744772
uhm
Moscow IS the capital of Russia
also jerusalem is the de jure capital of israel but their ownership of the city isn't recognized by most countries
>>
/how do I get frangipane to be my pet? asking for a friend
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>>7744726
who said it was negligible? I'm saying that gender is more complex biologically than hurr durr XY, XX.

Gender is complex Charlotte, there are over 20 genes that are thought to influence the expression of height the heck do you think that something like this would be as simple as two stupid genes, one that barely has any info at all?
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>>7744773
Please use the improved hugg version :(
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>>7744784
But she's already my slave girl, with collar and all...
Back off ;_;
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>>7744780
>tfw not sure if random people stare at you because you look weird or because you're just a bit more self-conscious
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>>7744784
she already is someone elses
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Also, there's a little hardness under the nipples.

Is it...is it starting?
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>>7744763
I bust my ass to be the best employee possible. My boss and coworkers love me, even though I'm the "weird skinny guy with long hair".

I think I'm going to "come out" as "lgbt" on coming out day this year; October 11th. I'll have been there two years; only 2 employees now have been there longer than me including my new boss. But as gently as possible; going to ask my boss permission to wear a rainbow flag pin on my chef coat that day.

I feel like the regulars I see every day won't turn on me. They'll just assume I'm gay probably; but I need to test the waters. How much of a fag will I look like after a year and 5 months on hrt?
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>>7744784
Frangipants has already been claimed by Anna.

You'll have to defeat Anna in battle in order to have her.
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>>7744776
I'm only interested if you look cute in a Pikachu onesie.
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>>7744784
w-what? no sorry
i'm already taken please don't
i don't want this

>>7744789
>///<
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how do I get anna to me my secretary? asking for a friend
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>>7744797
absolutely.
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>>7744159
>Anonymity 101
1. PGP/GPG for military-grade confidence :^). Encrypt your private posts using public keys of target anons. (BTW that's against 4chan rules.)
2. Create an intermediate channel to post your personal data to trusted and verified anons only.
3. Watch how others do it. I've seen people use ephemeral hosting websites such as Unsee (banned from 4chan). You could use a self-destructing Pastebin upload. Even though I bet someone logs those too, they are "good enough".
4. Use private channels of other anons who don't mind posting them in public. Example: >>7715165 (Sertii, "you two are both paranoid").

Any other ideas?
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>>7744802
huh. weasels
>>
uwu
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it's so unfair that people hate us simply for existing and trying to escape a life of pain and suffering.

it's almost worse than dysphoria itself..
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>>7744790
two days ago a guy kept smiling at me and i'm like what the actual fuck, it was so weird
idk this is a bit unsettling...I also kinda like it though, even just now being called gay, I hated how everyone used to think I was straight :(
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>>7744807
uwu
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>>7744728
Oh none of my visits actually cost me a cent/. The GP visit was bulk-billed (zero out of pocket), and although our current conservative government is slowly getting rid of mental healthcare, i still got 6 free visits to the therapist (down from 10) that year. So technically i can go again now that it's 2017. The only thing that cost me money was visiting that endo/psych dude that wouldve given me girl pills if i signed my soul away. that cost me about 120 AUD i think (90USD).

Ive read lots of good ideas such as popping girl pills for a month, but;

1. i dont know how to get them apart from legitly from the expensive endo guy
2. i'm afraid i'll like them
3. i'm afraid.

>>7744755
Its not like i blame them. They literally went from country bumpkins during martial law to a democratic western country living in the city (Sydney I still thank them for raising me but i'd just be... disheartened by the likely response if i came out to them.

I'm freshly twenty years old, im still going through uni, still slaving away with a part time job, getting that job experience. They still provide food, shelter, heat, water.

Unfortunately being brought up by such parents means that the idea of "self sacrifice" is hard-wired in me... That last sentence would be absolutely baffling to them. the philosophy is "work yourself to the bone, let not one person be dissatisfied. It is better to die serving than to be seen daydreaming etc etc etc"

Asians, what can you do.

>>7744763
uuu~ i don't know if it's my drowsiness (7am, haven't slept) or these firm words but im on the verge of tears irl. I know all this and yet the decision is so hard. I thought i could forget about it and "start the new male me 2.0 ;D !!". It was a bloodbath after the honeymoon period wore off. I felt so fake. Pretending to like things i didn't care about. Faking reactions...

And now that its backfired... facing the realisation i put it off for 6 months, i feel like i should just give up and yet i cant.
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>>7744807
I wish I had a blanket made of elanna
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god, i love showers
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>>7744126
>leg orgasms
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>>7744815
same, but replace "blanket" with "rug"
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>>7744815
You want to skin me?
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>>7744808
now you understand :(
>>7744807
no uwu zone
>>7744723
yup
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>>7744816
tfw my neck and shoulders aren't that small.

:\\\\\\\\
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>>7744816
How do you do it?
Being naked, wet and cold makes me miserable.

Then there's the whole self-image issues.
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>>7744816
how? I feel ill in there
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skinn elann
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>>7744824
it's just an animu :|

>>7744825
warm showers feel wonderful
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>>7744804
Post Pikachu.
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>>7744836
The warm water goes away quickly enough. Or the air around the warm water is cold. Then I get out and just start shivering because oh fuck. And if the water was too hot to compensate for the cold air my skin gets dry at this point.
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>>7744688
a fem boy thats treated as a girl bc trans visibility and gets laughed at for not looking enough like a girl. you cant win
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>>7744823
oowoo

>>7744833
:(
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>>7744838
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>>7744794

I have mixed results at my own job, partly because I work GY and partly because...well, you all know me. I'm a little strange. People generally see me as nice and a hard worker, but also this job has the social structure of high school, so it's a tossup.

>>7744812

Probably a little of both.

I put it off for years, literally, and I'm regretting it. On the bright side, I always knew it was going to be a long and dangerous journey, so I'm mentally prepared for that. I'm certainly impatient to be known as a woman, but I'm willing to wait and put in the work.

What you're describing though, being fake, I know all about it.

In the end, what did it for me, how I knew, is I asked myself, how do I see myself? And the fact is, I'm happier when I think of myself as a woman. It feels better, like a part of me is no longer missing
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>>7744842
Bawahaha you're cute as hell.
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>>7744843
I don't know what GY is.
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>>7744803
please don't do this, anon
anna is mine
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>>7744839
that's why i put on my towel before getting out of the shower stall.
either way, it's worth it
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>>7744845
thanks homie im cutest.
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>1 year ago
>go to makeup store to buy a present for my mother
>zero nervousness
>now
>need to go to a makeup store to get makeup for myself
>scared to death

brains are really stupid sometimes desu
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I want to be held
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>>7744803
Wew someone likes me!
But I already have a girlfriend who makes me the happiest person in the world

>>7744850
Yes I am yours uwu
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>>7744847

Graveyard Shift; 10pm to 6am

I work in an assisted living place, so there's also Residents.
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>>7744860
holdd
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>>7744867
I only want nim to do it :c
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>>7744860
iktff, girl.
i have have had some handsome men flocking to me on okc lately. i like this 1
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>>7744862
<3
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>>7744820
I want to drape you over my body and snuggle up with you in the cold
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>>7744865
Oooh. Gotcha. I work midnight to 9 am 4 days a week. Never saw it shortened like that. I clean and make morning foods.

I guess it makes sense we'd be weird, it takes a weird person to do this for an extended period of time.
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>>7744843
Out of curiosity Homura, what age did you start putting it off and what age did you actually start?

Before i even considered uttering the words "i wanna be the girl" to anyone IRL like a GP or therapist, i just kept searching online for testimonials etc. And every testimonial i saw of anyone 30+ or hons made me think " i still have a chance, im still 18/19" (Back then). But then i got scared and kept searching for younger and younger, and i started reading stuff like, "bone plates stop at 25", then it became "best to transition by 22", then it was "best results before 20", then "by 18" then "best to do so before puberty".

And with those things in mind the more i put it off, the scarier its becoming still. But as a result of putting it off these few months, it almost feels like it's useless.
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Is it worth throwing away my aspiration to be an Air Force Pilot to become a pretty grill?
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>>7744877
You can't do both?
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>>7744858
I believe in you
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>>7744876

I started a couple months ago, and this upcoming Birthday? My 28th.

...yeah. Imma be a hon, I know. That's another reason I put it off so long, is I thought I was too old.
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>>7744877
yes
>>
my page was also visited by a dude who looks like a chick.
i had to ask if he was.
i don't get guys who look like women & insist that they're men. they aren't, if you look like a chick, you're just not a man in my eyes
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>>7744879
not in merrica
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wew
so uh what would you do if you organised a hookup for a friend only for them to get raped (their first adult sexual experience), and then found out they'd also been sexually abused as a kid which was why they hadn't had sex as an adult and wanted help getting a hookup in the first place? I feel kind of bad, this is almost as bad as the time I forced an unsuspecting recovered heroin addict (nearly 10 years of addiction) watch Trainspotting because I thought she was just being a plebian when she was whining "is the whole film about drugs?" 5 minutes in...

I'm such a fuck-up.
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>>7744889
Is it the mental illness or the fact that you would be a weak woman type?
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>>7744881
thx senpai :3
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>>7744883
ganbatte! I dont know if i may ever start, i may be on the path to my own self destruction so it could already be too late for me.

But good luck to you! And happy birthday!

Isn't 28 a fine age to transition? Well i dont know your build but it should be fine... right?
Rooting for you ^^
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how often should i epilate?
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>>7744892
women can't serve combat roles in the american military.
besides, drugs like hrt probably don't really mesh well with super high Gs
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dahnald hand me the delegates or you will be marked for dead by caesar
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>>7744908
GIVE ME BACK MY LEGIONS DONALD
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dick
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>>7744905
Oh.
I agree with Lauren: still worth it. There's probably other ways to get what you want. Unless you really need to become an attack helicopter.
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>>7744908
Best meme 2016
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>>7744912
what in the world is that
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>>7744913
I agree.
being a girl > literally anything else
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>When your ex who wanted you to repress rejects you even though you "promised" to stop hrt and said you want to be a boy again because:
>"I have no idea with you. I think you're a really fragile person who could fall apart at any minute"

Fine...back to being a lonely tranny
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>>7744915
My fav desu
with Jeb at number 2 in my fav election memes
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>>7744912
Is that what a dick looks like?
Maybe I'm confused and not actually transgender.
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>>7744890
: (
>>7744920
: (
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>>7744917
>>7744922
its dick
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>>7744920
lmao
what a dick
coincidentally, did he come in here one time along with you to try to convince us you didn't have to transition?
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>>7744920
lemme guess, it's a cisgril, right?
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>>7744900

I'm a little chubby but I don't think my build is all that bad.

unsee (.) cc slash ranesobu
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>>7744929
tbqh i am thinking this too
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Ewan McGregor has become 10x hotter in 20 years wtf
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>tfw liking all this russian music but I have no idea what the songs are about
d a r n i t
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>>7744930
Definitely need to lose that male weight still though.
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i think it goes w/o saying that everyone here should know better than to try to be in a serious relationship w/ ciswomen
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>>7744920
Don't worry Amy. You are a nice girl and you'll find someone who will love the true you. Don't let mean affect your life. You deserve better than that!
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>>7744929
Nah he's a guy


>>7744928
Nah he doesent use 4chan
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>>7744918
>girl
Anon...

>>7744938
Are trannies even capable of being in a normal relationship?
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>>7744930
NO
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>>7744943
idk tbqdesu
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>>7744884
>>7744879
Fuck it, Air Force is /comfy/ whereas tranny is /kms/
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>>7744945
pls be my gf tbqh
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>>7744940
FROM EACH ACCORDING TO HIS ABILITY
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>>7744938
I don't understand lesbians

Men
>Bigger than you
>Strong
>Confident
>Assertive
>Dominant
>Self Sufficient
>Protective
>Takes care of you
>Holds you
>Carries you
>Big spoon
>Adores you
>Feels guilt when cheating
>Loves your trannycore hobbies
>Thinks you’re the most beautiful woman in the world

Women
>Smaller than you
>Weak
>Insecure
>Uncertain
>Submissive
>Dependent on you
>Will never even consider trying to protect you
>Demands you take care of her
>Wont hold you, demands you hold her
>Can’t carry you
>Won’t be big spoon
>Adores herself
>Feels no guilt when cheating
>Criticizes your trannycore hobbies
>Thinks she’s the most beautiful woman in the world

>>7744943
Sure, but you probably have to pass.
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>>7744939
>tfw he's fucking a cute boy on the weekend
>tfw it could have been me if I repressed
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>>7744946
It'll be fun until you break down because of your mental issues.
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Does anyone use kik?
I keep seeing people joining the kik group and living in 2 secs.
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>>7744955
>Imblying I'm even trans
Can't repress what I don't have
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>>7744947
so sweet
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>>7744952
why do you keep posting this
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>>7744950
TO EACH ACCORDING TO THEIR PRIVILEGEEEEESSSS
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>>7744953
It sounds like he was going to drop you for some new meat regardless.
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>>7744957
what is kik?
i keep hearing abt but have no idea what it is
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>>7744961
no
TO EACH ACCORDING TO HIS NEEDS
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>>7744912
Nice body but what's the point without dick?
Genders are the ultimate joke of nature.

P.S. Also show me her thighs. I can always tell a transwoman by lack of thiccness.
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>>7744958
If you're questioning it then I hope you at least see someone to straighten you out.
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>>7744958
If you're not trans why were you considering transition? Honest question, it just doesn't make sense.
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>>7744953
so you've stopped repressing? good!
it just didnt seem right
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>>7744946
>grueling training and depersonalization
>comfier than just taking hormones and dealing with everyday life
wut?

>>7744953
normal human beings spend more time not having sex than having.
it's cool if you focus on making the 90% of your time better.

>>7744963
an app like whassapp or line.
I use it for my virtual bf but there is a mtfg group pretty much dead.
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>>7744964
>his
STOP BEING SEXIST
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>>7744965
plenty of trannies have thick thighs
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>>7744959
is it still cute if I am a agp transbian t b h
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>>7744952
yea, honestly they're either just not into you & fucking cruel about it, or they're absolute fucking perverts
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>>7744958
why are you here then?

>>7744973
female needs don't count in modern society, dummy
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>>7744952
Men
>comes in 30 seconds and leaves
>a lot of them only want sex
>can hurt you
>not cute

Women
>Understands it can take time to orgasm
>helps you get there
>most want an actual relationship
>your years of being fueled by testosterone ensures you can fight them if you need to
>cute as a button
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>>7744977
>female needs don't count in modern society, dummy
they are all that count in modern society
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>>7744975
idk
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>>7744962
This would hurt a whole lot less if I didn't have estrogen making me cry

>>7744968
It still hurts though.
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>>7744930
looks ok! This is male me i guess taken infront of my super conservative friends.

accidently had some phone filters on

same website as you except slash ruzoteba

(also i chose a name for easier identification!)
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>>7744963
It's just a messaging app, a lot of people use it for sex stuff since it has a built in cam function like skype. Personally I don't like it since the camera only opens in a tiny little bubble and if both people have theirs on it puts yours off screen unless you constantly swipe it back to position, even though there's tons of screen space for them both.
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>>7744990
>>7744972
does it have encryption and a desktop app?
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>>7744985
I know its bad, but it's only temporary
plus isnt sadness better than T-rage
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>>7744952
Déjà vu
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>>7744990
the camera thing sucks so much

>>7744997
I doubt it.
neither does 4chan so I don't see why you'd care about encryption...
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>>7744988
>ruzoteba
You cute little fuck, I want to poke your nose.
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>>7744972
Better than depersonalization via being assimilated into a "movement"
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>>7745006
what?
you realize that trannies don't have drill sargents, right? you don't have to join anything. and the people who see you will automatically assume you're an exception unless you do everything like they expect it.
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>>7745004
i was wondering if i could use it to replace Signal thats all
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>>7744930
>spaces
>parentesis
>written slash
fuck you too

>>7745011
it's as insecure as anything in your life.
most things that actually need encryption will be cracked in any app since they are all owned by companies owned by other groups (whasapp) or designed by the cia with backdoors in the first place (tor)
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>>7745006
>thinking all trannies are entrenched into the SJW-loving lgbt "culture".
Just because they're the loudest doesn't mean they're the majority. You think there aren't fags who are embarrassed by pride parades? Or who stay the fuck away from trans spaces?
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>>7744988

Ah you're a cutie, plus Asians basically have a cheat code at being trans, so congrats on that.

Anyway, yeah, as people said, I need to work out some. If only I could get my bike here...
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>tfw no big tall house with rooms by the dozen with my Frangi looking like a rich man's wife with a proper double chin
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Any Floridafags here have experience with Rodwick? Going in for a first appointment tomorrow
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>>7744983
sheeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiittttttt
>>
>>7745017
that's where Signal differs tho
it's actually really secure
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>>7745019
>Anyway, yeah, as people said, I need to work out some.
No, you just need to straight up lose weight. I wouldn't worry about getting into a shape at your size.
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>>7744960
Because its relevant and I believe heterosexuality is the logical conclusion we should all gravitate to.

>>7744976
Its really an ego thing for me, a cisgirl can only put you up until you're slightly less confident than her, and is inherently more in love with herself than she is with you. A really bad combo, means she's gonna dip out when things get rough. Ciswomen generally also have no loyalty to transgirls.

>>7744978
Men
>Easily pleased sexually
>Takes pride in making the woman cum
>Can carry you to bed and give it to you rough
>Sexy muscles

Women
>Easily unamused by sex, will seek extra partners to satisfy her demands
>Passive agressive, will refuse sex on a whim and uses it to get her way
>Can't carry you, probably wants you to carry her
>Stop trying and reveal themselves for the homely creature they are after they're secure that they "got you"

Also
>tfw he slaps your ass
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>tfw went for walk through downtown and relaxed in the park
good day, even though it was overcast
>>7745021
good ice ferret
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>>7745027
And I thought I was a transphobic misogynist MTF.
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>>7745028
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>>7745017

Don't blame me, it took me five tries to post it.
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>>7744952
>>7744978
>transwomen spreading opressive gender stereotypes
Could this explain TERFs?
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>>7745005
super flattered ^^

kinda feels awks this was taken during 100% boy time tho

>>7745019
Thanks!

theres a reason the picture doesnt show below haha! I went to Japan and Taiwan and gained a few kg, wouldve been more if i didnt snowboard too

I think youre giving me way too much credit! think we're not too far apart :) You'll definitely make it!
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>>7745036
she's a white supremacist holocaust denier too
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>>7745027
>Because its relevant and I believe heterosexuality is the logical conclusion we should all gravitate to.
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>>7745036
Damn that bitch be roiding.
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>>7745027
>Men
>Sexy muscles

>>7745046
>roiding
She's a living proof that testosterone is a female hormone.
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>>7745024
it doesn't have cute stickers, I'm sorry, I'm not switching.

>>7745032
you just put a line break after the first dot so people just copy and paste it.
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There is only one proper sexuality and that is for the lord Jesus Christ's word
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>>7745053
>tfw no Jesus to fill you with his holy spirit
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>>7745056
Open up the great book and be filled with his love.
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>>7745051
oh god
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>>7745001
But t rage made me feel powerful.
Not weak small and worthless.

Those were the days...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxunBZ4jGDk

I was to die a hero in my mind
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>>7745020
i want dis
rich woman's*

but no double chin desu
i aint no belly gf
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>>7745045
https://bitchmedia.org/article/dont-%E2%80%9Cget-bulge%E2%80%9D-how-wage-gap-discussions-overlook-trans-women

By, you guessed it, your favorite author Sam Riedel.

>>7745051
You're really bad at trolling Whingie.
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>>7745031
*licks the ferret's face*
uwu
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>>7745027
you have a good view of men
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>>7745060
>tfw don't have time to sit in the synagogue and pray and answer questions that would cross a rabbi's eyes
yadda dee da da desu
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>>7745057
Can I have a young, handsome priest read it to me? I think I could focus better if it was read aloud. Plus I might have questions.

>tfw no God to obey his every word
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floor floor floor floor florida
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>>7745046
>she drops it at the end
omg , she's such a clumsy airhead!

>>7745053
like, being aroused by the word of christ?
if you read John I can see that working.
>Later at the crucifixion, Jesus tells his mother, "Woman, here is your son", and to the Beloved Disciple he says, "Here is your mother."
>Peter sees the Beloved Disciple following them and asks, "What about him?" Jesus answers, "If I want him to remain until I cum, what is that to you?"
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>>7745027
that pic is triggering my oral fixation kink

someone brush my teeth for me fuckkkk
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>>7745052
>it doesn't have cute stickers, I'm sorry, I'm not switching.
According to your entry in the catalogue, your identity is "woman", not "cute"... You lied.
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>>7745072
>>7745072
>>7745072
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>>7745059
to die a hero, angry and afraid, it sounds pointless
desu i'd rather take the occasional bout of depression over constantly hating myself
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>>7745075
do it right, dummy.

>>7745071
Can't I like cute things even if I'm a mature woman?
Also, my entry included christmass cake, please respect my identity.
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>>7745088
>mature "Christmas cake" woman
That's the identity nature dealt you.
But is that your IDEAL identity?
That's what the question is about.
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>>7745130
that's the one I chose to identify the conditions I'm currently in.
it makes me feel better than "a year too old to get maried and/or be cute"
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>>7745142
hmm.
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how the fuck do i do my eyebrows?
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>>7744997 >>7745004
>neither does 4chan so I don't see why you'd care about encryption...
4chan does have encryption... if you look at the "https" part. It's not end-to-end but at least we're safe from our ISPs and people in our local network. We're not safe from Emperor Hirohito or his minions though.
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here
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