/mascgen/- occuption edition

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>>7711856
>occuption

I pity poor foot-fetish-anon. When will his dream become true?

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>>7711875
Never. Just like I'll never find a +6'5" tall man.

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>>7711890
Never say never.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jD-rwKznlw

FUCKING GIVE ME MY FEET EDITION

>>7711856
that's fucking disgusting

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>>7711856
>occuption
Nigga

>>7712239
When the sun sets in the west and rises in the east. When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When anons all get the perfect 6'5" tall bara husbandos.

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>>7712326
but I want a manlet, hot headed bara husbando that I can calm down with hugs and fugs when he gets upset :c

I'm only 6'1" though so I can't make anyone on here happy

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Tfw balding tfw had super cute hair tfw gained wait tfw joined the guard tfw 5'6 Cries. the only reasons I don't smash the house is because I paid for most of the shit in here fuck my shitty roommates. Other than that how is everyone?

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>>7712676
those are lots of feels

I'm just tfwnobfing right now. I think it's because it's cold tonight.

>>7712697
Like Ronadl Regan I crush them with my mind vice and am okay after deeply repressing the feels.

>>7712697
Same. Except it's not that cold tonight. But every other night ya.

>>7712656
I just want to feel short. But I was cursed with painfully average height

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>>7712748
I'm 6'3" and still wish I was taller. Grass is always greener somewhere else.

One of my biggest sexual fantasies is tying a guy up, stuffing his ass with toys and jerking him off. I realize that in the grand scheme of things this is pretty vanilla, but I still feel like if I suggested to a guy I would like to do this they would be weirded out and say 'no'. Is this weird or do you think guys would actually be cool with it?

>>7713169
Just need to find yourself a proper bottom slut. They're into all kinds of stuff.

>>7711890
I'm 6'7" Australian fairly hairy blue collar.

But I despise twinks.

>>7713228
we sound perfect for each other anon

>>7713228
I'm not a twink myself. I'm rather average

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>>7713228
I'm 6'5" and, somewhat muscular and hairy af.

On a different note, do any of you have a good dating service to recommend? I really want to find my bro for the long term. I've tried grindr, scruff, and recently, adam4adam, but they all seem mostly hookup oriented. Which I don't mind exactly, but I really do want to find a serious relationship and thats kinda hard there.

How to find QT muscle cub guy?

>>7713591
I'm the 6'7" guy. I found my handsome fireman partner on gaydar.net in 2011 and we've been together ever since. It's not bad. Very UK-centric though.

>>7713711
Dubs of truth
I'll check it out but I am in California.

Frankly, I think moving might help. I might actually find a masculine and modest guy away from this degenerate state.

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>>7711856
hey people, i'm a contractor, mostly residential

t. femmy guy

>>7713792
...and i work on same jobs as plenty of masc men from other trades

>>7712239
You're disgusting, now leave.

>>7713169
I'm a bottom and I find this very sexy.

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>walk in to a public bathroom
>see this
What do?

>>7714190
think how cool a scrabble floor is. I want one!

>>7711856
This guy is so fucking hot but his videos on xtube are all premium. Fuck him. I wanna piss on him so bad.

>>7713725
I've gotten to bf's from grindr. It's pretty good for actual dates.

But I'm also in the Midwest, so dudes here might just be more conservative.

>>7713792
>Big hairy muscley masc dude
>Work as a librarian

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How do I acquire a perfect human specimen of the male sex such as this?

>>7714475
Daddyhunt

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>>7714471
cuuuute!
>>7714475
If you ever find out how please make sure to share with us

>>7714475
> perfect
> no beard
Pick one

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>>7714475
>>7714595
the easiest way to get a guy who looks like that is to look like that yourself.
this is why so many gay men spend a lot of time in the gym.

once in a great while you will find a man who looks like this that likes twinks but usually they like women, or if they are gay then they want someone who looks like them.

of course you can always buy men who look like that, but usually only by the hour or for the weekend.
if you are extremely wealthy then you can get a guy like this but you probably have to buy him a car and a townhouse and take him to Ibiza every year and tolerate him fucking other people.
Beauty comes at a price.

>>7713169
I can't imagine any bottom not wanting to do this.

>>7714833
Huh, guess I'm not a bottom then

>>7714973
What kind of bottom doesn't want to get tied up and used by a stronger guy?

>>7715031
Power bottoms

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>>7715031
I'm vers, really. In a relationship I'd like to top and bottom, preferably at least 25% of the time at minimum for both. But yeh, I've been tied up before. It's really not my thing I guess. It just doesn't do anything for me.

If you tied me up and then did some bit of muscle worship, teasing, and running your tongue all over me, I could get on board with that prolly.

>>7715235
For me I don't really care about what they do after they tie me up. It's mainly the idea of being totally used by the other guy. Not being able to move makes me feel like even more of an object designed only to fulfill another man's desires.

>>7714657
>7714657
He grew a beard, actually. He's called Chip and is on the Real Men Real Life tumblr/facebook. Don't know why they cropped out the watermark.

>>7715530
LINK PLS

>>7715457
weird.

you and my ex would get along though.

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>2017
>not having a bf, husbear or sugardaddy

I seriously hope you don't do this

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Who /defeating_depression/ here?

> medication's effect has been slowly building up, now I can focus and work effectively again
> personal life is getting sorted out overall, less family drama around me
> my students are becoming independent and inheriting the project I founded on the campus, now I'm moving on to greater endeavors
> 3 of my students received fellowships for a big event and now we're going together
> brother has moved back here and we're having all sorts of fun, I missed the guy
> became friends with the anxious guy I went out with, he's invited me to a party this weekend

There is joy to be found in life, anons.

>>7716640
Sounds great man. Now you just need to wean yourself off the meds.

Nobody's discussed their occupation.
Is everyone here no hopers?

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post less old people and less people with body hair fetishes and just post thick muscle bears that are attractive

>>7716661
I'm not even near doing that yet, my treatment is far from finished and if I stopped my meds I'd probably lose all my progress in just a few days. If I even take them late I slowly go back to my depressed self

My bench is stalling again and I think Im actually doing worse.
I may have hurt something in my shoulder. There is a dull pain that is definitely not regular muscle soreness.
I think I should slow down for a couple weeks

Mascgen, what is your ab routine. I don't want a 6 pack, but I want my stomach to be flat/firm at least.

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>>7716670
but muscle bears are hairy by definition

>>7716640
I'm kinda scared because there is a history of depression/bipolar disorder in my family. I've been reading and it seems that inheriting it is not as common, but still a thing.

I mostly dislike the idea of needing meds because I know people that became suicidal after starting their treatment, including my mom.

But it's getting harder to pretend that there's nothing wrong with me when I don't have the motivation to do anything at all and feel anxiety on a daily basis.

Maybe I don't even need meds, but up until now being blissfuly ignorant was working relatively well. Now it's just ruining my life.

>>7716661
Meds aren't something you can just quit when you have depression or anything of the sort. They usually say that if you feel that you don't need them it's because they are working, but if you stop taking them then the treatment isn't working.

>>7716669
Not much to say.
The other day one of the kids I was workinging with shat themselves. I had no way of telling which one. So I pretty much just had to put up with shit smell for the entire hour long program.

>>7716844
Iktf. My phone is stalled because my shoulders's all fucky.

>>7717037
If you just want flat and firm, you don't need a routine, just low body fat. I superset in ab stuff in leg day. Cable crunches, leg lifts, ab roller etc.

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>>7716670
Agreed.
>>7717077
Groce

>>7717207
>wanting a man with 0% bodyfat
Seriously though a little bit of fat isn't bad as long as there is plenty of muscle with it.

>>7716669
There's a high chance I'll start working as a substitute teacher in april or so and I'm absolutely terrified about it because I have no teaching experience at all and I'll most likely have to start with teenagers from bad neighborhoods.

so yeah.

>>7716670
Bear by definition means "having body hair", just like big fat hairless guys saying their bears the same goes for you calling guys like pic related bears when they are just muscle jocks or muscle men. No way in hell is THAT a bear.

>>7717176
Fyi, I have mixed anxiety and depressive disorder,so my experience certainly isn't the same as yours, but the way I see it is that my illness has, for the last two years, gradually crippled me and stopped me from being myself. I was at my academic peak and I slowly fell, until I could take it no longer.
I went to four medical practitioners until I found a psychiatrist who was updated on latest research and he prescribed me vortioxetine.

The medication hasn't given me any serious side effects — just some silly stuff like crazy dreams and teeth grinding — but it's been helping me. My illness was stopping me from being myself and the medication is helping me. It's not my enemy, it's my friend.

Maybe your mother had the bad luck of being prescribed a medication her organism reacted badly to, but that shouldn't scare you from trying to find good medication if you need it. Seek a good psychiatrist, tell him what's happening and show him which medications your mother used and how she reacted to each one.

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>>7717221
>0%
more like 7. 20% is pretty much my limit.

>>7717317
You have quite the mental disorder there pal.

>>7717295
>but the way I see it is that my illness has, for the last two years, gradually crippled me and stopped me from being myself

That's mostly what makes me uneasy. In my case, I wasn't doing well until shit went down. I have been feeling like this for as long as I can remember. I probably don't have depression, just anxiety that never goes away. It was bearable when I was little or in high school because if I felt too anxious to leave my house, while still shitty, didn't affect me negatively. Well, besides from missing school but luckilly I was able to get good grades effortlessly anyway. I hoped it would all go away once the worst of puberty happened, but now I'm almost 23 so it clearly won't just go away. In fact I think I may be developing agoraphobia.

The thing is, maybe I do need meds and they will probably help me if that's the case. But I don't know who I'll become into. It's probably silly, but of course I can't help feeling anxious about it.

>>7717077
That's not a muscle bear.

That's just a fat person.

>>7717198
>My phone is stalled because my shoulders's all fucky.
>phone
anyways i'm stalled at like 185lb.
i made a push early last month to get to 225, but i think i pushed to hard.
so frustrating

>>7717674
Ohp
Stupid auto correct.

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>>7717447
>Unrealistic standards of beauty are only for women
Cry more noob.

>>7717732
Good luck with your life of unhappiness and being constantly unsatisfied. While probably being alone for the rest of your life.

>>7717802
Lel
Don't mind being alone, do long as I get to spend alone time with my bf.

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>>7716281
Chip Wright, now with beard.

First """date""" ideas?
He suggested dinner, but I think that'd be too intense and I'd suck and be awkward at that.
I would prefer to be DOING something, like an activity, to help with conversation, etc.
Suggestions? He is a qt 25 year old cub trying to make it to muscle cub. He likes cars a lot.

>>7718407
Go out for coffee

>>7718407
I like dinner for first dates, but it can be risky. If the conversation turns out to be awful then there is no early escape option.
Generally, I find activity based dates to be kind of lame and the sort of thing you do when you're 15. Bowling or mini golf would make me want to kill myself. Just go for coffee or a few beers somewhere.
Bear in mind that you have to go on a few scary, shit dates to practice and get good at dating. You'll learn how to talk to people and how to act on dates after a while. But you're probably gonna have at least one disaster before you get comfortable with holding a conversation.

>>7718407
>DOING something
>First """date"""
A bad idea. The truth is you'll probably feel like ending most of your dates early because you'll quickly see that you're incompatible with the other guy. If that's the case you'll regret being on a 3 hour hike with someone you only needed to see for 5 minutes. Same thing if you're having dinner together, you can't just leave early if you really intend on eating something.
That's why going for a coffee is such a common idea for a date. If you want to end it early you'll have plenty of opportunities, but if you want to stay for longer you can do that on the coffee shop or just go and do something somewhere else.

Going out to DO something can be good on later dates, though

>>7718366
better without bear desu

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>>7719329
Agree. Never found him that attractive in the first place, but a lot of guys seem to go for that all-american daddy beefcake look he's got going. I just figured I would kindly provide anon with some info, so they could help themselves to more pics of him.

Also, your daily reminder to get and/or stay /fit/! Lift, swim, run, fight, whatever floats your boat, get out and get going! Otherwise, you'll never get pic related daddy bear to take you home for some extreme cuddling sessions.

>>7718407
Museum and coffee & cake in the cafe afterwards.
All the advantages of a coffee date with the added bonus of something to talk about before and after. Also, you'll get a sense of whether he's educated, enjoys art at all or not and so on.

Plus you'll come across as cultured, so it's a win for all involved parties.

>>7719391
Oops, didn't see the thing about cars, but then I'd specifically go to the technical museum, if such a thing exists in your town. (If someone suggested that to me, I would be as happy as a little girl. Train-geek here.)

>>7711856
sweaty sweaty hotdog you can pull those nips a foot and give it a pluck

>tfw still not a muscle manlet
>tfw still regular manlet

>>7719875
pls get THICC

>>7718407
I like dinner and a movie.

Get to know them at dinner. Cuddle up during the movie. Fuck after the movie from all the built up sexual tension.

>>7714190
That sink is fucking disgusting.
Everything about that spells fucking disgusting.
Eww.

>>7714595
face looks too much like my dad's to be attracted to.

>>7719875
Get thee to a gymnasium

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>>7719875
you can become this if you lift

>>7721542
Still too chunky for my taste.

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>>7721570
>too chunky

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>>7720626
>face looks too much like my dad's to be attracted to
but anon that's the best part

>>7721589
>sad klokov
You can't ruse me that's not klokov.

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>>7721620

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>>tfw this guy called me cute on instagram

I'm not c-c-cute, I'm m-m-manly as fuck

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>>7721673
You, and all other /masc/gen regulars, are literally the worst. Your faux masculinity is expressed degeneracy, rooted in a hypersexual subculture that fetishizes the outward appearance masculinity ... while embracing none of the intellectual or personal rigor required to be a true man. You lot are no better than lisping twinks, as you permit the Jew to so easily manipulate and violate you.

>>7721673
Get the d anon.

>>7721717
lel
Go suck hitler's dong somewhere else. Limp wristed guys like you give shit to effeminate gays in real life but cross the street and look the other way when a masc couple walks down the street.

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>>7721717
larping as a nazi is fun, isn't it honey?!
now clean up your room.
grandma is coming for tea.

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Software engineer by occupation.

>mfw the 95% of people I work with are cute geeky guys or manly, well dressed men
>mfw all of them are straight as fuk

All I want is a cute, slightly socially awkward BF who I can cuddle with and talk about tech stuff and play vidya in the weekends, is that too much to ask for? All of the gay guys I know are flaming fagots, and their greatest prospect in life is sucking different dicks every week.

>>7721717
angry tranny/twink pls don't be mad no more

>>7721728
he lives on the other side of the country

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>>7721742
>>7721755
>>7721787
It seems I have hit a nerve. Perhaps, because you know everything I've said is absolutely true. You lack the self-restraint to cultivate any real masculinity, like whorish women you are driven to mindlessly pursue intercourse and make that the sole object of your life and faux-masculine identity - becoming nothing more than puppets of the Jew in the process, and catching a few STDs to boot.

I eagerly anticipate the day when we're able to force you faggots back into the closet, and restore the homosexual community to basic decency.

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>>7721784
That got to be rough. luckily all my make friends and co workers are unattractive. So there's no contact drooling.

No luck finding nerds on dating apps?

>>7721787
>angry tranny/twink
Did our normal tranny troll go full red pill? Lol

>>7721844
>1939 + 78
>Still doesn't know that heterosexuality is a Jewish conspiracy

>>7722124
>make
Male
>contact
Constant

>>7722124
>No luck finding nerds on dating apps?
I live in a semi-tolerant european country, coming out is not common here. Most people are reluctant to show their face even in cam or private. Those who are publicly out are usually the extroverted buch or scene guys.

I'm not out either, it would have serious drawbacks in the workplace and my personal life, too. So most of the time it's blind dating, which is hard and slow business..

Started chatting to some guy online. Within a day he sends me a video of a porno he starred in when he was 18.

Lol? For what purpose would you do that?

>>7722376
red flag

>>7722412
I know haha.
Massive red flag

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>>7722376
>being this naive about social interactions

to make your clit hard?

>>7711856
>>7721784
>All I want is a cute, slightly socially awkward BF who I can cuddle with and talk about tech stuff and play vidya in the weekends, is that too much to ask for?
>mfw I had that
>still got cucked
there is no escape

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>>7722746
>>mfw I had that
>>still got cucked

if, at first, you don't succeed,
try, try again.

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>tfw IP range bans you from posting on your phone while bored at work
All I want to do is post bara. It's not fair mascgen

You're going to die of aids.

>>7722931
Id suck that dick

>>7723036
>tfw no giant manspreader bf to crush you against the wall

>>7722376
He was trying to impress you m8

>>7722931

Fuck that's hot.

>>7721784
Weird, usually there are tons of gay guys in tech. t least where I live.

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>when you zap him but he keep on suckin

>>7722931
>people still insist "manspreading" should be outlawed

It's a blessing tbqh.

>>7720362
>>7721376
>>7721542
I do lift. Been lifting for about 4 months now but I had a lapse of a month's in the middle because of Christmas. I was seeing some nice gains in my legs and booty, but my upper body hasn't gotten any gains at all. I've changed my routine to get to the gym more often and to be more upper body intensive. Next is to get consistent with eating big instead of eating loads for two days straight and hen getting depressed and barely eating for the rest of the week.
/blog

when bulking does it matter if you eat unhealthy?

>>7725725
Please post good bulking tips. I'm on the lookout as well.

Also, got this meme from 9fag with homemade protein bars, consisting of oats, honey, peanut butter and coffee creamer. Anyone try making those, and if so, worth it? I figure I workout so much that I need to add calories to my diet to really get some gains.

>>7711856
How do i become less feminine acting? Some people tell me they never would guess that I'm gay, and others say that they could tell right away. Some people have said i walk in a feminine way and others say that it's the way that i speak. Is there voice training or walking training to correct this?

I'm not afraid of people knowing I'm gay, but i find femininity unattractive on men and would like to be more attractive in this way as well. I don't think it's about ((((internalized homophobia)))).

>>7725945
Post a vocaroo reading a paragraph or two so we can hear your voice.

>>7725498
>Been lifting for about 4 months
Sheeit negro, Rome wasn't built in a day.
>Next is to get consistent with eating big instead of eating loads for two days straight and hen getting depressed and barely eating
Honestly this needs to be your first goal. Gym time won't do any good, if you don't give your body the necessary building blocks to grow.

>>7725725
If it's your first bulk I wouldn't worry about eating clean. You're going to have enough trouble eating enough to bulk up.

Once you've got a handle on bulking, try to clean it up. You'll feel better eating clean than on garbage, and make more muscle gains per pound.

>>7725877
Counting calories is the biggest part. Skellies think they're eating big when they're not.

My first bulk I tried to eat whatever I would normally eat in a day, then an entire frozen pizza before bed.

>tfw he cums inside

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>>7726417
Did he kiss your neck and call you a good boy too?

>be virgin
>hot guy wants to fuck me

What do? I don't know if I want to lose it to someone I barely know.

>>7725945
Internalized homophobia is a made up phrase and is part of a Jewish plot to unite gays against straight people

>>7726486
I think you're over testing the bake if virginity. It's not the navigatormeans moment you think it is. It's pretty much universally awkward and embarrassing. Having a hot dude you don't know walk you through it, is probably the best. If you do something weird and embarrassing you don't have to see them every day after that. Lol

Just let the guy know you're a virgin, and want to know him better before giving it up.

>>7726417
I prefer swallowing. Nothing hotter than earning his cum and feeling it drip down my throat. Turns me on really good

>>7726513
>I think you're over testing the bake if virginity. It's not the navigatormeans moment you think it is.
Can you rewrite this in English?

He knows I'm a virgin and is willing to help me through it. I just don't want to feel like a slut.

>>7726528
Auto corrected from phone gym posting.

Basically meant to say, losing your virginity is no big deal. It's usually just awkward.

>>7726528
>Virgin
>Wants to have sex but doesn't want to be a slut

Anon c'mon

Since when did just wanting to have sex (for the first time!!!) become so frowned upon?

People do it every fucking day. If you feel like a slut for losing your virginity with someone you've obviously had an adult conversation with about it, you are fucking lame and you should probably take a bullet instead so I don't have to respond to your boring problems on a masculinity appreciation forum.

>>7727033
>Since when did just wanting to have sex (for the first time!!!) become so frowned upon?
I guess I just thought the first time would be with someone more special to me... Or someone I had known for months.

>>7714471
I can almost physically feel a new ideal slowly forming up. Damn.

>tfw no big, stoically warm and hairy librarian around to even just have a crush on
>tfw no nothin'

>>7727138
> tfw fiction writer, researcher and teacher going for husbando mode
> no cute, awkward masc bf

>>7727076
This. Fucking one guy, and fucking every dude in a hundred miles are vastly different.

>>7727138
Just gotta put yourself out there. We're all going to make it bro.

>>7727245
>fiction writer,
Write anything big?
I've been meaning to do Nanowrimo for approximately forever.

>>7727310
Two books published but they're only known on the local scene. Currently planning my third, which will have all sorts of gay and spoopy shit.

>>7727342
If I ever do get to writing anything, it's probably going to be the same stuff that I read, trashy/pulpy sci-fi and fantasy.

I'm bound to do it one day, just so I can brag about being a published author.

>>7727245
Don't do this to me, sailor. I can only wish so much. Husbando mode scholars are gold.
Uselessly enough: where are you?

>>7727076
Don't let that faggot here pressure you into sex. Do what you want.

Fuck guys I'm having a rough day. I'm at our old house moving and throwing out final bits and pieces. He left so much shit that I have to go through, I have to meet people to sell our shit, let the cleaners in, etc. Meanwhile my ex is on holidays in Bali. It's pathetic but I just need to feel like this unfair as hell, and im here crying sorting through our cats that he took and I miss and stuff he left behind while he drinks cocktails in some foreverpool.

>>7727621
Sorting through our cats stuff, obviously, can't think normal fuck

>>7727621
>>7727631
Fug that's rough.

I'd honestly just toss it all. If it was something he wanted to keep he should have grabbed it.

>>7727531
I'm Brazil-anon

>>7727393
Anon, I studied tons to try to write high literature/smart artsy stuff, but nowadays I want to actually write things people enjoy and find fun. Art for it's own sake is oftentimes sad, and making people happy with pulpy stuff feels great
So don't be embarassed of going for trashy stuff.

>>7727540
I mean I obviously want it but I don't want to regret it and think of myself as a slut.

>>7727775
As long as you don't catch a venerable disease, there's very few times you'll regret having sex with a hot guy.

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>match with gorgeous 6'3 bara dude on tinder
>he replies every 6 hours
>he leaves town this Saturday
why are people like this.

>>7727986
Life is cruel anon

>>7727986
Ask him for some vitamin D

>>7727986
Iktfb

All the good ones are just passing through.

>>7722931
>N6 is the morph pic lover

Disgust and shamefur.

>>7728581
>N6
who?

>>7728581
Literally hwat

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>fantasize about getting fucked by a big baradude
>don't really enjoy bottoming irl
why can't my brain and my bp agree

>>7729693
Haven't bottomed yet, but I sorta get this feel with oral. It's obviously better to imagine sucking than actually doing it sometimes, especially when you need air but can't get it.

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>>7729693

>fantasize about fucking a big baradude
>its amazing irl

hell yeah bitches

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This guy is in his 40s and wants me to fuck him. Should I? I hate that he's shaved chest/pit hair...

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>>7729791

yuck desu

How many years it "too much older" for sex? Is 7 years too much?

>>7729824

only if one of you is underage

>>7729707
>when your jaw is tired but they tell you not to stop
worst feel
>>7729791
>ugly face
>shaved body
would not bang

>>7729824
Depends. Are we talking about relationships or just sex?

For relationships 7 years can be a lot or it can be nothing depending on how old are you. Like if you're 20 and the other guy is 27 then you probably won't have much in common or you'll most likely be in different stages of life at least. But if you are 25 or older then the age difference shouldn't be much of a problem.

If it's just sex then as long as you're not doing anything illegal/taking advantage of a minor if they are younger or grossed out by their old body if they are older.

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Early morning reminder to get lifting and get thicc! If I can get up at 05:55 to go to the gym, you lazy fux can too!

>>7727986
>Match with this 6'7 dude on tinder
>Talk for a week
>Then ignores me
>Months later he finds me on okc
>Starts talking to me again
Lol fuck off

>>7730021
but my gym opens at 9
>>7730030
>>7727986
those are probably fake accounts desu

>>7730062
I'm >>7730030
i've actually met the guy
he's legit.
he's just a faggot.

>>7730062
I see how that might be an issue. Mine opens at 06:00. Thank Crom for card readers.

>>7730021
Fuck, that dick

>use headless, shirtless pic as profile
>dozens of replies
>use a face pic
>nothing
>send a face pic
>get blocked
liftinf cant fix ugly

>>7713725
What part of California? If you are out in the boonies like me fat chance of finding a guy on those places and there's even less chance of meeting a normal nice guy by chance. If you are in san francisco you might be able to filter people out with scruff. I know nothing about southern Californian gays. Haven't ever really been.

Side note: What are gay bars like? I hear they are great.

>>7716640
I had to quit prozac cause it increased intrusive suicidal thoughts by a shit load. I remember the first time I took it though, I was walking around a couple days later and I remember thinking to myself "This is how normal people feel". No crushing sadness, no dark thoughts swirling in my skull and I can step back from my emotions easily. Like they are bubbles and I can stop feeling something just by moving my hand away.

Now I take welbutrin, works alright. I hate how it keeps me awake, I don't do well with uppers. Lots of energy though, frustrating how it seems to push me into interacting with people. All I want deep down is to be quiet and not speak to a soul for days even weeks at a time. Instead I find myself chatting to everyone because I have so much mental energy it needs to burn off through interaction.

I'm glad you are getting through it though, I think I am too. Life gets hard and gets easy. We just gotta ride it out.

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>>7730861
>Life gets hard
>We just gotta ride it
Anon

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>>7730880
I legitimately did not notice that. Oops!

>>7730840
I'm in San Francisco. Well Technically Easy Bay, but moving to Oakland shortly. Work in San Fran.

I'm on Scruff. Guys are either
1) Unattractive
2) Only looking for a hook up
3) Mostly incapable of responding to messages in a timely manner

Thats pretty much it. I actually did have a BF from Scruff for about 4 months, but that ended abruptly after I realized he was a manipulative dirtbag.

Gay bars aren't really my thing. I don't mind going every now and then as long as I go with friends. The Eagle in the city is kind of entertaining. Lots of old and bear guys there, ranging from gross to kinda hot.

I hooked up with a sexy af Brazilian guy at a gay bar once. Thats only happened once of the dozen or so times Ive been.

>>7730952
Oakland is an... interesting place. I grew up in San Jose and I tended to avoid Oakland for the most part. Better then Redwood City though, that place is kind of a shit hole.

Huh, I had something similar to that happen. Except I found out he cheated a year in and cause it was my first relationship my heart strung me along like a fool. I still pine, threw myself into my work to make it better.

I will keep that in mind, in general bars ain't my thing. I will try out The Eagle when I'm sufficiently drunk to dance stupidly in public.

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>>7730961
God

I've been in a handful of relationships now, and wiser for it. I hope to never feel puppy-love again. Regretfully, because its a great feeling. Nothing quite like being alive with love. But I've dragged my feelings through broken glass a few times now and it never gets easier.

Though now I'm mostly stoic and happy about it. But damn I have a hard time with people here, gay and straight. The stereotypes of SF are mostly true and the monochrome political ideologies, opinions found here are eroding my sanity.

But I also love California in a similar way I love the USA, so there ya have it.

Do tall/muscular guys ever tend to go for small (5'2) teeny bottoms, there's literally no porn I can find that matches what i'm after, just seems weirdly rare, sorry I'm pretty new when it comes to the 'gay community' or whatever :3

Can post pics if you need reference :P

>>7729791
Serious gay face and flabby baby body. No.

>>7729824
I'm 23 and my fuck buddy is 47

>>7731072
Rocco Steele and armond Rizzo is a popular vid that comes to mind

>tfw no strict bottom jupp bf

;_;

>>7731072
Height isn't really a major factor for gay people, it seems. Your build (whether you're muscular or tend more towards being twink-ish) and your attitude (where you're on the feminine/masculine spectrum) seem to be more relevant.

>>7731072
When there's a whole foot's worth of height difference it's awkward/uncomfortable to hug or make out.
I like stocky, shorter guys but 5'2 is pushing it, sorry anon.

>>7731391
I'm 5'7 and my 2 ex bfs were both around 6'1. Even that was kind of difficult. 69ing can be a bit difficult.

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How much body hair is too much?

>>7731453
When your chest hair is connected to your back hair via your shoulders.

>>7731491
>not wanting your husbando to have grown his own permanent wifebeater

>>7731453
When you can't find his hole in the middle of the asscrack forest

/mascgen/ really fucks with my self esteem sometimes. I see all these guys here squirming for 6'4 and above and I'm like 5'9 top and my ex was taller than me. I'm seriously just thinking about just saving up, going to china or thailand and getting my legbones lengthened. The guy I like very obviously likes tall men too, so I just feel really eaten up lately about it.

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>>7731261
Eh now.

Also is doing 4 plate seated leg presses considered good?

>>7731584
that's just because most guys on here seem to be short, I think. I'm tall and I prefer shorter guys myself. Tallest guy I've been with was 5'9" actually. Shortest was a very handsome 5'5" muscle bear

>>7731594
yeah, and I kind of think tall bottoms are very elegant and gorgeous. I just hate how masculinity is tied really heavily to height in people's eyes. I wish it was just another thing people liked or didn't. Very hypocritical of me honestly, because I'm still deeply entrenched in gender rolls, like as in bottoms being somewhat effeminate and gentle and the top being more masculine and reliable.

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>>7731607
Masc daddy bottoms are pure.

>>7731618
I think so too

>>7731588
The weight someone leg presses is not a reliable indicative of strength. But it's not a bad number, roughly

>Hook up with this dude from grindr
>6'3 8/10 beefy and bearded
>Hit it off and start dating
>Been over two and half weeks now
>Slowly realise he has an absolutely cancerous personality
>It's like imagining a physical manifestation of /pol/
>later tells me he has ADHD as well as having a history of bipolarism and suicidal tendencies
>Now that he's more comfortable with me his conversations just consist of him ranting about liberals/muslims/blacks/mexicans, how he should be allowed to call black people niggers, how Milo and Trump are godsends
>We went to a restaurant two nights ago and he overheard the group of people behind us talking about Trump being an incompetent president
>He gets out of his seat and just starts screaming obscenities at them and demanding they apologize
>Absolutely everyone in the restaurant is staring at us and the grpup he's yelling at just start laughing at him
>He runs out in tears leaving me to awkwardly pay the bill
>Refused to meet him in person since
>Constantly getting texts from him which I ignore asking "whats up" "lets go for dinner" as if his autistic neonazi meltdown never happened which he never apologized for
The guys in love and smitten with me, but i've only kept up with his attitude because he's hot and sex is great. Is there any way to break up with him and convince him to be fwb? Seriously he has no friends for obvious reasons and I feel like he might sudoku himself if I tell him to fuck off

>>7730988
haha. Dirtbikes and weed? More like dirt weed.

I'm built stupidly, I love way to hard. I can't hold on to anger or hate so I always end up forgiving people if they ask. It tends to help people take advantage of me but at this point I just roll with the punches. Some people are kind and some are mean I might as well be able to give a part of myself to make the kind feel better and help the mean be kind, ya know? Maybe it's just the naive scientist thing but I try to never stop loving people even when I can't quite love myself. If that's puppy love I guess I'm stuck as a puppy.

SF stereotypes are annoying as balls. The politics are silly and it's best to just ignore all political arguments. Especially after the whole Trump thing now anyone that tries to discuss policy with either side get labeled a racist or a dumb hippy. Just start looking places that you wouldn't stereo typically find the people you'd expect. Little weird sounding but I find the most interesting people by going somewhere with a set demographic and then saying hi to those that don't match.

I feel the love for California, although that's more attached to familial love cause my family is all over here. We heard about the new world, ditched Europe and came on over. Soon as we came here we decided we wanted to go west as far as possible because fuck our known world. Ever since we have lived here.

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>>7731839
>Is there any way to break up with him and convince him to be fwb?
I don't think there is. Lonely people of any kind have trouble not falling for someone who pays them attention. Even if he agreed to be just fwb he'd probably think of you as his bf and things could get ugly if he finds out you're talking/hooking up with other guys. I know because I'm like that myself (except for the /pol/ack part).

It's not really your responsibaility if he does something stupid when you cut it off with him. You're not his caretaker after all. But I know that's easier said than done.

Maybe try to get him to dislike you by being (or pretending to be) anti-trump or a sjw or something like that, so he distances himself on his own.

>>7731867
I'd suggest being honest about what bothers him. It has the duel purpose of informing the /pol/ack what was wrong and, hopefully, from his perspective making anon a sjw.

>>7731867
I was hoping it would work, i'm already anti-trump and "SJW" whenever I tell him I don't agree with the shit he says he just gets quiet and changes the subject only to bring it up later on. It's like i'm the only exception to disagree with his ideologies, anyone else and there would be a full blown pissing match.

>>7731445
You just gotta be flexible man, I'm 5'6 and my last bf was 6'1 and 69ing worked just fun as long as I knew how to bend. Although to be fair all I cared about was getting to suck his dick.

>>7731891
>It's like i'm the only exception to disagree with his ideologies
Yeah, that might be because you're the only person who pays positivie attention to him. It's sad, but lonely people usually make awful partners.

Again, saying this as a loner myself

>>7731839
This reminds of that one episode of Peep Show. You should watch it.

>>7731917
I could honestly tolerate it as well if he just kept it to himself and didn't feel the need to wear a MAGA hat out to a formal restaurant or sperg out about his neo-nazi ideologies in public or to friends/family/strangers. My only real problem is that he just doesn't have any sense of self awareness and can't even read the atmosphere that people don't like him or want to litsen to his shit.

>>7730765
Lol
I know this feel.

>>7731072
I'm 6'3", I love short guys.
Post pics.

>>7731588
Not really
I squat 1.5pl8 for reps and can rep 6pl8 leg press.

Kinda arbitrary.

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>>7731588
>>7731588
4 or 4 on each side?
Not really for both depending on your build.

Did you just incorporate them recently? Like 1-2 months ago?

Are you a smaller build like a twink/otter? Or a bigger build like a bear/chub or bull?

>>7732243
No seven on each side. I fuged that up. Should be 7 plate.

I'm not really /fit/ minded. Bare with me. I started at 5 plate about a month ago. Last week I moved from 6plate to 7.

I'm 6'3, so I'm trying to get my legs looking thicker.

>want bf
>masturbate
>don't want bf anymore
not sure if I should stay alone or stop masturbating

>>7732267
Post legs bearbie

>>7732267
don't do leg press! It's only good for making you feel good about your legs. Think: in what situation will you be pushing something up a hill by lying on your back and pushing it with your feet?

squats are way better

>>7732546
You should do both.
4-6 different exercises on leg day.

Couldn't find my tweasers, so I plucked hair with needle nose pliers.

Might be the most masc thing I've ever done.

>>7732267
Ah you're that Silly Person?
I thought you have been lifting for awhile.

7 plates is good though for leg press but how much is your back squat?

We aren't all short here. I'm 6'5. Being tall is great, except for the whole "unless you're naturally big, gains are impossible" thing. I just hit 90kg and I'm still a STICC. Even worse is my skinnyfat genetics means I put fat on my lower belly real quick.

What I'm trying to say is yes being tall is great, but unless you have sick tier genetics, being tall also comes with annoying lanklet shit.

>>7732756
>just hit 90kg and I'm still a STICC.
Iktf. Maybe when I hit 100 next bulk.

>>7732546
I do both really. I sometimes forget to do my squats though. Sometimes.
>>7732530
They're nothing special atm, so I'm gonna wait on posting them again.
>>7732658
Been lifting a little bit under a year. Take in mind some days I don't make it to the gym and other yadayadas. I'm getting 'bigger' at my own pace and I am okay with that.
>>7732756
It really is a pain. When I see all these shorter guys at the gym they're all muscled and beefy looking and I envy them. A little, but it also motivates me.

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>>7732908
>forgetting to do squats

>>7732908
>envy them

Like your teddybear?

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>>7731979
tbqh voting for Trump is a deal breaker for me. I can be more understanding if they're just generally conservative and like small government (not crazy about that, but I'll look beyond it) but if someone started showing tinges of /pol/ I'd probably drop them. There's no room for kindness and empathy in /pol/'s ethos. In their world it's winners and losers, allies and enemies, us and them, with no sympathy for the downtrodden or the different.

I want a bf who responds to weakness with tenderness, to opposition with respect, to victory with graciousness, and to the unknown with seeking understanding, and I don't see that kind of maturity, nuance, and patience from /pol/types

>>7733057
>I don't see that kind of maturity, nuance, and patience from /pol/types
I'm not seeing that from the modern left either

>>7733057
>In their world it's us and them
>voting for Trump is a deal breaker for me

lol

>>7733089
Honestly I only see the political divide growing in the United States.

Agreeing and compromise are seen as verboten these days

>>7733089
Those nazi trash cans really had it coming.

The guy in the story was a nutter. If I had less experience in the gay community, I'd think it was made up.

>>7733119
I can be picky on height just as I'm picky on political leaning when it comes to a partner

>>7733120
It is. And it's pretty absurd.
I remember when if you mentioned support for the other side, you might get a couple jokes. But it's pretty absurd now. Anyone who doesn't agree with you is hitler.

Trump has the smallest number of "undecided" people in his approval rating in the history of approval ratings. The moderate center seems to have disappeared.

>>7733133
I'm not saying you can't.

I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of accusing trump supporters of only seeing the world in "Us vs them" and then putting all trump supporters in the "them" category.

>>7733146
I don't really think sexual selection is quite on the same level as advocating for an entire ban on immigration for certain countries but I'mma stop with the political posting anyways

>>7733161
I never really understood the whole bringing up politics thing. When I was growing up it was something you didn't bring up in polite conversation.

I don't have a clue who my parents voted for.

I was of surprised when I had a guy almost break up with me once he badgered me into telling him what party I voted for.

>>7733161
You do realize it was the previous administration that came up with that list of countries right?

Yes Trump implemented it piss poorly.

>>7733214
I've heard a lot of people talk about it, and Trump's actions are stumping people on both sides of the aisle.

He's not a politician, and he's surrounding himself with other people who aren't politicians. He doesn't play politics, or follow unwritten rules. Both for and against himself, like blindsiding TSA without telling anyone about the ban ahead of time.

He's the presidential equivalent of a loose cannon cop.

>>7732584
hair from where?

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Someone called me a cub today which means I can officially post here!

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>>7733214

>>7733952
Because the tea party/birthers and antifa are the same

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is this masc?

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>>7733985
No but this is

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which one would you fuck /masc/

>>7733952
Don't worry anon, drumpf will be impeached and we'll have daddy pence

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>>7734006
>not dancing manliest dance

>>7734031
I think he picked Pence as impeachment insurance actually

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>>7734018
all of them. Including the dog.

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>>7734018
Any of them desu. As long as they're the ones fucking me

>>7733089
>>7733119
As someone who's been seeing a /pol/ Trump voter for the past 2 weeks, I really understand why no one would want to be around them let alone be in a committed relationship with one.

>>7734297
>dating /pol/ guys

why

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>>7734879
There's a surprising amount of /pol/ minded gays who are in the closet about it. I'm not from the US, but I've came across more gays who are pretty much alt-right, or at least very racist (like really racist, not just "specifies-no-blacks-on-grindr-racist") and mysoginistic, than I ever thought I would. Of course they are not the majority, but I thought they'd be unicorn rare tier irl

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>split up with bf in november
>haven't seen or talked with him since
>flirting with other guys STILL feels like I'm cheating on him
fucking monogamous mind reeee

>Feminine frame
>Masculine features + bodyhair
>Boney as fuck
>Masc dudes only seem interested in either twinks or other masc dudes
>Too scrappy looking to be a twink, will never be masculine

what do

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>>7736331
Get an eye patch

>>7736331
>Too scrappy looking to be a twink
but there are lots of skinny twinks

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>tfw like muscular, hairy, guys with wide hips
What the hell am I?

>>7734001
Jesus Christ in high heels

>>7733057
that is my goal body.
bigg and thicc

Just finished 14 hours of lab work. I'm getting high as shit watching Billy and Mandy trying to make myself sleepy. Anyone up for talking?

>>7736953
>Billy and Mandy
Which episode?

>>7736956
All of season 2, I just found out it's on youtube. Watching one of the evil dead rip of guy episodes. Billy started cooking, nothing good shall come of this.

>>7736959
I remember that one. The one with the zombie brownies

>>7736959
*off
Gosh darn it, to much math makes the english of the weakness.

>>7736964
Yep, Grim now has them inside of his skull. The poor fool. Where does it go when he eats it?

>>7736976
I don't remember much of the details but I remember Hoss Del Gato shows up eventually

>>7736319
I know that feel anon

>>7736980
Yeah, it was crazy. Grim had the brownies sucked out of his skull by a giant zombie golem. It essentially made out with his skull and eyes.

>>7737000
Mandy just ripped apart grim and put him in a thousand jars in the far future when she becomes a giant worm thing that rules over the planet.

>>7737000
I think it was that season had the dragon ball z parody

>>7737006
Oooh I am super excited. I am never disappointed with the strange things this show produces.

>>7737007
Unfortunately it's time for me to go to bed. I just got bitch slapped with a wave of fatigue

>>7737010
Okie dokie. Thanks for keeping me company awhile, hope you have some nice dreams.

>>7736455
HIGH TEST

I feel as if there is a genuine conspiracy against white males to make them as meek and effeminate as possible - Low testosterone men lack drive and ambition, and lowered testosterone leads to a vicious cycle of accumulating excess body fat which leads to increased biosynthesis of oestrogen's, furthermore suppressing testosterone production.

High testosterone men are more able to remain stoic and not be susceptible to irrationality. Progressives fear real men, masculine men with the strength and will to back up their convictions and intellect.
Fostering effeminate men means more of them are happy to subscribe to egalitarianism - 'equality' is a convenient excuse to those who have no hope of being exceptional. It requires effort to be a man.

>>7737170
I think you need a break from 4chan

>>7737170
I'm suprised you haven't tied your conspiracy theory to jews and liberalism

>>7734001
Man voguing always looks really crazy

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What's your favorite porn vid /mascgen/?
WHose your favorite porn actor?

>>7737619
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99C1GU9XPns

>>7733146
Yes, but there's another dimension to it as well. Left-leaning people want stuff like socialized healthcare for _all_ people, regardless, whereas your typical woke /pol/ Trump-type wants to have something, but not let those "other people" (whoever they might be that day) have it also. Think unemployment benefits, think good jobs with good pay, think decent education, the list goes on. It seems to me that what would make me incompatible with these types of people is that they insist, though playing politics, to make other less, and much of it stems from some kind of resentment towards society. Which is why a slogan like MAGA does well with this demographics - it's a conceited nostalgia for a time that never existed. I mean, honestly, America must be at one of it's high points in the sense of personal freedom and expression. Just my 0.02 euro-cents.

>>7735281
There are _tons_ of racist homos out there, but it's a recent phenomena that the right wing embraced LGB-people and made it alright to be a queer bigot. Neo-nazis used to be pretty upfront about wanting to throw us of moving trains, and some still are, but modern right wing parties like FPÖ, Le Pens party, Danish Peoples Party etc are tolerant of LGB-people primarily as a political weapon against immigrants, as I see it.

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>>7737619
Drew Sebastian - man, I'd love to slobber all over his huge cock, while he talks dirty to me with his deep, manly voice. Pic very much related.

Adam Russo comes a very close second.

>>7737619
Mike dozer and any musclebear breeding porn.

Please no bully.

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>>7736331
lift

>>7737819

you know he's poz and in jail for raping a kid, right?

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>>7737854

>>7733840
Eyebrow and nose.

>>7737619
Although I don't like him personally, I love Armond Rizzo because he's like 5' even and takes on dudes that are three times his size

>>7738045
yes

>>7737680
>good jobs with good pay, think decent education, the list goes on
Most people on the right want those things for people too. There's just fundamental disagreement in how to get those things to people effectively.

>>7738147
>Armond Rizzo because he's like 5' even and takes on dudes that are three times his size
Same. I really dig the size difference, and anyone next to him looks like a monster.

>>7738156

shame on you

you deserve to be bullied

>>7737680
>Left-leaning people want stuff like socialized healthcare for _all_ people
You're emphasizing the "all" part when you should be emphasizing the "socialized" part.

Right-leaning non-sociopaths want healthcare for everyone as well. They just disagree with the method - via a single-payer system. It goes beyond, "Wahhh, we don't wanna pay for our neighbor sometimes!" It has to do with competition creating cheaper healthcare, flexibility for small business owners to create even more jobs, etc. It's a complex issue with no clear answer.

That's the problem with the modern left. They've reduced everything down to a "simple" either you're nice-or-not false dichotomy when there are serious issues to discuss. The right will come to the table and try to figure things out, while the left will literally throw a temper tantrum in the streets to avoid such a discussion.

But whatever, keep believing what you were "educated" to think - that those on the right are evil sociopaths hoping everyone else will just die. That'll make it much easier to kill them once they're dehumanized! :^)

>>7738219
>They just disagree with the method
This.

I think a large reason why the right did well in the last election, was the left refused to debate facts and claimed everything was a moral question.

>>7738219
>It has to do with competition creating cheaper healthcare

but single payer sytems are more efficient.
and nobody has time to "shop" for doctors to get the best deal when they are sick.
so the market doesn't function properly.

it is naive to assume that deregulating everything is going to magically fix it.

The moderate centre has not disappeared. The political extremes have only gotten louder, essentially in response to one another. The vast majority of people aren't protesting gender fluid rights on campuses or shitposting racist, sexist, homophobic drivel on /pol/. The vast majority are sitting at home, either reading The Guardian or The Times, and tutting at the state of the world.

I've found that in most places in the real world you'll ony find polite debate when discussing politics. My old neighbour was one of those racist homos and we got into a somewhat heated debate about it once. The very next day he came round and gave me a spare inner tube because I'd mentioned my bike had a puncture.
Still though, I bet the bastard voted to leave the EU...

>>7738278
>but single payer sytems are more efficient.
>and nobody has time to "shop" for doctors to get the best deal when they are sick.
>so the market doesn't function properly.

That's a debate to have. I'm not going to have it here. The point is the left would rather say, "The right are all heartless monsters! We won't tolerate that type of hate!" than try to make points like yours, and respond to their counters to those points, and so on.

That's what made moderates, who like debating and compromising, get pissed off. They saw one half willing to do that, and the other kicking and screaming. So they turned on them.

>>7738278
>single payer sytems are more efficient.
Then that should be the approach you take to convincing people.

Not calling them a Nazi and claiming they're evil and want poor people to die.

>>7738289
>somewhat heated debate about it once. The very next day he came round and gave me a spare inner tube
I want this to be the norm.

I have a friend who's no longer on speaking terms with their own mother because they voted for opposing canidates.

Feels like the world's gone mad

>>7738219
>they've reduced everything down to a "simple" either you're nice-or-not false dichotomy
To be fair it's easy to see how someone would reach that conclusion. I'm from a left-leaning country and most of the American media I consume is left-leaning too. Values like tolerance and solidarity get a much bigger push in schools and media than familiarism and self-improvement, so regardless of what political views your friends and family have, more or less half of your social life is left-leaning by default.

When you're told your whole life that traditional families are oppressive/nowhere near as cool as our transgressive, different show about an assembled, non ideal family (just like every other show on television); and not to be selfish and serve other people instead of your own; you find it hard to believe that there's another side to it. I used to wonder "wait how can there be republicans in America? Every celebrity I know shares my opinion on this stuff I believe to be universal. How can you disagree on this?"

I think this is why Trump won really, aside from people being soured on the left for belittling and insulting males and whites at every turn. I don't believe over half of America wanted Trump as president, liberals just thought everyone universally agreed with them, that people have to be crazy to not share their values, so they didn't show up to vote. If they knew Trump winning was a real possibility Hillary would have won by a landslide.

>>7738351
>Feels like the world's gone mad
It really has. It's not only the US. Here in my country people are awfully divided by their political views too. I know many cases of friends and even relatives that have stopped talking to each other because of that.

It's sad because in my opinion it's such a dumb thing to stop talking to someone. It's like people can't stand being around others who don't agree with them on everything

>>7738366
>I don't believe over half of America wanted Trump as president,

I mean... you don't have to believe that because it's objectively not true. Over half of the people who voted did so against him.

>>7738366
>most of the American media I consume is left-leaning too. Values like tolerance and solidarity get a much bigger push in schools and media
Many people were shown just how left-leaning the "news" really is. People used to think the news was about learning the truth about the world around you. Now that you can pick and choose which sites to filter on Facebook or whatever, people can just confirm their biases about the world and become more extreme. Of course the outlets that encourage these echo-chambers (on either side) benefit because that's a customer who won't be leaving any time soon.

And the media really has leaned far left in America. We had celebrities telling working class everyday people that they were too privileged despite being barely able to afford their new healthcare. "News" outlets blatantly lying about events surrounding the election just to support a candidate. People unfriending others on social media just to make a point about politics.

The digital atmosphere encourages radicalization, and people are rewarded for it by people they don't even know congratulating them on their strength, bravery, and intelligence for not asking their mom why she liked a different candidate.

>>7738396
>It's like people can't stand being around others who don't agree with them on everything
Because with the Internet, why would you have to? I can just block anyone who says something I disagree with and pretend it never happened. They were just a high school friend anyway. I only need my 10 "real" friends who all KNOW the truth about the world.

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tfw no tall bf to rest my head on his chest while standing

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>>7738396
There's this thing I want to believe in
Every logical outcome to the atomic bomb being invented is everyone nuking each other, and we're on the one crazy timeline where that didn't happen so everything will eventually get weirder and weirder

>>7738407
True, what I mean is republicans were overrepresented in the polls (and they STILL didn't get the popular vote!)
Then again I hate that argument. If you throw a tantrum when getting checkmated because you had more pieces, don't play chess. He won the electoral college and he IS your president, get over it.

>>7738422
I completely agree with everything you say and that might make me a hypocrite. Eh, we're still having level-headed discussion I guess.

>>7738459
>If you throw a tantrum when getting checkmated because you had more pieces, don't play chess

That's a real weird and dumb way to think of democracy

Thank god I'm not american desu

>>7738422

> the media really has leaned far left in America.

lmao.

the american "left" is centre-right in the rest of the world.

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>>7738459
>we're on the one crazy timeline where that didn't happen so everything will eventually get weirder and weirder
>there is a timeline in which the result of the nuclear war was turning every guy into handsome baradudes because of reasons
>you are stuck in the political craziness timeline
reeeee

>>7738494
>the american "left" is centre-right in the rest of the world.
I don't care. If you want to pretend you're telling the "news" it shouldn't be layered with 500 pounds of propaganda over it. And most American media outlets have left propaganda dripping from the edges.

But do tell me more about this left-leaning rest of the world. I didn't know that Iran, Saudi Arabia, Russia, and so many other countries in our vast world were all left-leaning except for those crazy Americans.

Or maybe Western Europe has gone so far left that even reasonably extreme leftism seems center?

>>7738303
>That's what made moderates, who like debating and compromising, get pissed off. They saw one half willing to do that, and the other kicking and screaming. So they turned on them.
I really want the left to understand this is why we lost. It's not because democrats didn't show up to the polls, it's not because Russia, it's not because everyone who voted for Trump is a racist monster. Independents were tired of the left or were (rightly) mistrustful of Hillary.

>>7738509

Authoritarian states can be left or right, dear.

I'm not European either lmao

>>I don't care. If you want to pretend you're telling the "news" it shouldn't be layered with 500 pounds of propaganda over it. And most American media outlets have left propaganda dripping from the edges.

I hear this and similar things from /pol/turds and yet the only things they seem able to refer to are things like trannies being given airtime, or shows that aren't actual news like current year man

>>7738530

>Independents were tired of the left or were (rightly) mistrustful of Hillary.

I think the latter was probably more important than the former. Sanders did well among independents and was actually leftist unlike Shillary

>>7738494
>That's a real weird and dumb way to think of democracy
I don't think it's a perfect system but I like it. In a geographically diverse country like the US where every state has wildly different resources and employment, making sure the interests of the most heavily populated ones don't screw everyone else up is important if you want self-sufficiency.

>>7738535
>Authoritarian states can be left or right, dear.
Yes, and this election was about stopping the left authoritarians in America.

>yet the only things they seem able to refer to are things like trannies being given airtime, or shows that aren't actual news like current year man

That's because you haven't looked hard enough. Try this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DcATG9Qy_A

Yes, CNN, supposedly the holiest of holy news outlets in America, is blatantly telling viewers it is illegal to read Wikileaks - a big, fat LIE. Tell me how this wasn't pro-Hillary propaganda during the election?

Instead of doing their job - providing me, an everyday citizen, with updates on world events, they instead command me that I am forbidden from learning about what's happening. As someone who actually read some of those emails, there was quite a lot to report. There still is.

This is just one of many examples you'd find if you looked of how the media and schools actively attempt to censor things they dislike.

But yeah, it's all about something like trannies, I guess? Fuck the bigots man!

>>7738577

Damn

>CNN, supposedly the holiest of holy news outlets in America

Is it? The only thing I've heard about CNN from Americans is jokes about how shitty it is on SNL

>>7738669

>>7738645
>The only thing I've heard about CNN from Americans is jokes about how shitty it is on SNL
The only jokes are it being the Clinton News Network for a few years now. And boy did they show their true colors this past season. There's plenty more where that came from.

And that's a "news" source that tries to market itself as center-leaning. Imagine what the left-leaning ones produce? It's no wonder the left has been radicalized in America when they're literally force fed propaganda all day.

It used to be that Fox did this on the right, but I was forced to eat my words when I saw a small shred of honest journalism about Wikileaks from Sean Hannity (not even the mainstream Fox would touch it; that's how bad it was).

>>7738681

Clinton is centre-right so them marketing themselves as centrist isn't incorrect if they're shilling for her.

>>7738577
>>7738694
More recent CNN fun!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmEXIo3zGoI

Just a typical day in the American """""news""""" cycle.

>>7738872
Oh well the thread's dead I guess now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWqa2EIBAxY

>>7711898
cringed

>tfw every person you meet is a >tfwnobf clingy mess
I want a qt bf just as much as any of you but calm down, being desperate is unnatractive

>>7733985
no, those are the worst
if they could be twinks they would be but they dont want to lose weight

>>7734018
the youngest one, or the least oldest one rather

>>7733985
Right looks like a qt