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/mtfg/ - transwomen general: you're all beautiful edition

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i'm sad edition

• Informed consent providers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Forward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Clinics.pdf
• Makeup for beginners: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
• Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
• Correct hormone levels: http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
• Checking your levels: http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
• Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
• Transition time lines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• buddi
• Voice Training: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
• Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
• IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
don't worry about the thread being deleted, i'm too sad for that
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>>7591956
no u
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hi
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this is my thread

only i can post in this thread now
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>>7591961
reee i accidentally copy pasted your sad. i wanted happy :>|
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>>7591949
same im taking female hormones and acquiring female features and wearing female clothing ironically it's a pretty funny ironic meme

one day i'll ironically get a boyfriend and then adopt ironic children and ironically raise them in an ironically happy family
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Nimmy qt
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it's too late nimmymymymy
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>>7591963
nope
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>be listening to a PC Music compilation, a label heavily sponsored by Red Bull
>walk past a can of Red Bull on a cinder block

sometimes i feel like i'm in a prank show desu
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>transition
>realize you might actually be a girl later
everything went better than expected
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>>7591966
>>7591967
why are you making me cry this is my thread
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>>7591969
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronicity
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>>7591965
It's a nice meme
I'm enjoying it
I don't want a bf though I'm already taken :3
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Y is some red bull from Austria and some not
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>>7591932
24th birthday and realizing that its probably not just a phase
coming here and finding out i can selfmed where I live without any pressure to socially transition
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>>7591976
illuminati
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>>7591970
starting to know this feel, albeit subtly.

>>7591963
goddess nim
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>>7591964
>:>|
is that a smiley with a long and blocky chin?
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>>7591928
huh?
>>7591925
lets hope..
>>7591923
yay. how long? mine should be here this week,
>>7591921
its bananas
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>>7591976
because australia is upsidedown
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>>7591981
i ordered like 6 bottles and it took like 11 days to get here
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>>7591980
No, it's a snickering nose with a flat mouth.

:>|

my favorite smiley is Mr. Piggy

:B)
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>>7591979
i really like the pictures you post :3
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>>7591979
I feel like it's not exactly uncommon
You know, given it's easier to accept that you want to look like and be seen as a girl than it is to accept that you may actually be one/always were one.
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Some presumably homeless dude said I look like a Scandinavian metal guitarist and kept talking about blacks wanting to be dominance and the problems with black people. Lol then he played guitar for me teaching me music theory and bragging about his song he made that has no racist energy in it
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>>7591991
what's the difference
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>>7591965
the best about it all is that you can prank your friends by ironically sucking their dicks.
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>>7591989
>i really like the pictures you post :3

thanks! s a m e, this ones cute
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>>7591998
you're cute!
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can someone explain the sonic lore to me why this bald ass nigga putting animals in robots
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Do you ctually like pretending to be a girl, or do you just do it to fit in with how hrt is making people treat you like me
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>>7591997
yeah it's really funny and ironic because then they ironically cum and you ironically cuddle and then laugh it off the next day because you're so ironic
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>>7591992
post pic now juni!!

>>7591991
hmm perhaps I misunderstood you, sry.
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>>7592001
I like not pretending to be a guy.
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>>7592000
For the emeralds u shit
It's p much protodbz
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>>7591993
The difference is in whether you perceive yourself as a boy who simply wants to look like a girl and who is willing to chemically castrate themselves to look like one

Or, whether you perceive yourself to be a girl
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>>7592005
I'm surrounded by coworkers but here's when I went job hunting on friday
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when does that annoying phase in hair growth end where it just curls around the ears in a weird way

im getting tired of looking like a homo skater kid
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>>7591993
Ones a choice, ones dealing with the reality that it's not

Like it's the difference between sucking a guy off because whatever it's just an experiment, and realizing you lost to penis at birth
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>>7592010
b e a u t y

have you ever thought of darkening your hair, idk why I thought of that but I think you'd rock a dark brown/black
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>>7592001
i like to think of myself as a girl.
it makes me feel happier and allows me to care about myself and makes me want to improve myself.
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>>7592001
>pretending
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>>7592000
ARK Incident (50 Years Ago) - {Events Of Sonic 1-3&K in some form} - Station Square Incident, Unleashing of Perfect Chaos (SA1) - Awakening Of Shadow, Fall Of ARK (SA2) - Return of Metal Sonic and the overthrow of Eggman (Heroes) - Coming Of The Black Comet and The Black Arms War (ShTH) - The shattering of the world / Coming of Dark/Light Gaia. (Unleashed) - The Encounter With The Wisps (Colours)

I hope I've not left anything out... the might change their minds in time. Now, i'm not counting Sonic 4 in this currently as obviously we don't know the full story with that as yet, I think you can probably pencil it in if you like after S&K in that list. Storybook - No. M&S - No. Rush/Rush Adv - You can't really say it is as its the whole future/alternate dimension thing which has already proven to be in flux. Sonic 06 - The events of the game prevented it from ever happening in the first place. Rivals - arguably R2 might be, but you've got the whole future thing with Silver again. Everything I've heard tells me no to both however.

Of course to me I'm quite open to the fact that there are multiple-continuities Original Mobius Story/Modern Earth Continuity/Fleetway/Archie/SatAM/Underground/Sonic X/etc and try not to get hung up on such details about which is the "true" one... QUOTe
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>>7591970
>>7591991
huh. That actually makes sense.
When I was first coming to terms with being trans, I felt like I wasn't a girl; I just wanted to be one.
Now I often feel like I'm a girl, but sometimes I feel like I'm not a "real girl", if that makes sense.
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>>7591907
Oh, Im the opposite, I would love to have the standard nuclear family desu.
It would make me content.

But I don't feel Ill ever really have it, Ill always just look at people who do and envy them.

>>7591943
We're not disagreeing, my point was I shouldn't have children because Id be a bad mother.
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from last
>>7591950
Yeah, it sucked. Somehow I survived. I know it effected me bad. Interestingly it was one of the earliest memories that came back.
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>>7592025
>>7592000
Classic Saga

Sonic Generations 1sts: Modern and Classic Sonic, Modern and Classic Miles "Tails" Prower, Classic and Modern Dr. "Eggman" Robotnik, Modern Knuckles, Modern Amy, Cream, Rouge, Vector, Charmy, Espio, Blaze, Classic Metal Sonic, Shadow, Silver

Sonic begins his adventure in Green Hill after Dr. Kintobor becomes Dr. Robotnik Dr. Robotnik begins trapping the animals on Earth in robots. Though Dr. Eggman from the future comes in the Time Eater and turns Sonic into White. He is unknowingly revived by Sonic from about 5 years in the future. They join up and with the help of 2 Tails' must take down this "Dr. Eggman" before it's too late! Present Time's Sonic learns that Dr. Robotnik is working with Dr. Eggman, who reveals that he is Robotnik of the future. Present Tails exclaims "DR. ROBOTNIK!" "No one calls me that anymore," replies Present Eggman. The Sonics' friends give thee Sonics courage, and Our times Sonic becomes Super Sonic for the 1st time (as seen by his reaction) and defeat the Eggmen. Present Sonic must return to his time along with Tails, and unknowingly to future Sonic, create an alternate timeline where Present Sonic knows "his" "future". (May be elaborated in Sonic Dimensions)

Sonic 1 (in some form)

Back in the past of Future Sonic's dimension, running parallel with with the alternate dimension Sonic's adventures. SegaSonic (This dimension's Sonic) meets the evil Dr. Robotnik and must save his animal friends. I don't believe the emerald search in this game is canon, as there is no explanation as to why the emeralds are gone after this game. (Without all million as in archie seven, their magnetic properties can't spread them out) Sonic destroys Robotnik's Scrap Brain Facility, and restores the animals freedom. However, Robotnik vows revenge, and begins construction on his new Death Egg, Patent Pending, Robotnik Labs Incorporated...
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in: Alien Species
Endorian Ferret

Table of Contents


Endorian Ferret
Universe Star Wars Universe
Homeworld Endor
Average Height ~2.5 centimeters
Average Length 0.5 meters
Diet Carnivorous
Sapience Level Non-sapient
Endorian Ferrets are small, predatory creatures indigenous to the forest moon of Endor. While pink-skinned, they are covered in a layer of fur that can be brown or black, although an albino shade of white is not an uncommon sight. Their eye color is naturally brown, but the albinos have pink eyes. They have been apparently domesticated by the locals, instead of being used as a food source. While often considered both cute and cuddly, the ferrets could be very dangerous - particularly if a young Ewok were to get too playful with them. However, they more often than not just gave their Ewok masters a nip or claw to ensure that they would not be annoyed any longer
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>>7592017
<3
I've considered doing various ombrez
But idk
Maybe someday
I don't want to look like my sister too much and she's brunette
I like u with blonde hair btw
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>>7592007
>>7592019
I guess I was thinking more like, doing a fake voice, working on makeup, mannerisms (if you don't naturally do them anyway like Me >.>) some people like do special walks

That kind of stuff, is that all supposed to be fun and natural to fit in?


I find doing stuff that doesn't come naturally both female and male, to bother the crap out of me
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>>7592030
>>7592000
Sonic 2

After a few months, Sonic the Hedgehog is out on a run when a bullied fox, Miles Prower AKA Tails, sees and follows Sonic. When Tails discovers the Tornado, Sonic finds the Tornado in the Emerald Hills, and is amazed at how well the boy can keep up with him. They quickly become close friends, but they must stop their playing to take out the newly launched Death Egg. On the way, Tails tells Sonic about the fabled Chaos Emeralds before learning that they truly exist in the Special Zone. They collect the Emeralds before making it to the Wing Fortress where Sonic must fight alone because the Tornado with Tails was shot down. Sonic finally makes it to the Death Egg, where he supposedly destroys the ship. Sonic flies down with Tails who has fixed the Tornado in incredible time. They then take a vacation to Angel Island where a red echinda attacks them...
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>>7592025
>>7592030
thank u
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>>7592037
>>7592000
Sonic 3 and Knuckles (in some form)

Knuckles steals the Chaos emeralds from Sonic, being tricked by Robotnik that he is an enemy come to take the Master Emerald.While Sonic and Tails are entangled by Knuckles, the doc repairs the Death Egg and preps it for launch.

Sonic manages to jump on the Death Egg just as it’s flying off. After confronting the madman on the Death Egg, Sonic defeats Robotnik once more and the Death Egg plummets back to Angel Island.

Back on the ground Dr. Robotnik begins the repairing of the Death Egg again. Feeling Knuckles has served his purpose, he sends EggRobo to eliminate this potential threat. EggRobo finds Knuckles relaxing in Mushroom Hill and drops a bomb on him but Knuckles manages to survive. Enraged, the Wild Echidna sets off to defeat EggRobo. Meanwhile Sonic and Tails explore the island to find traces of the Death Egg and find out Robo-butt’s fate. They meet Knuckles outside the Emerald Shrine (NOT Hidden Palace, which has been retconned). During the fight, Sonic sees 2 murals, one depicting a water dragon taking out the echindas, the other showing a certain blue hedgehog fighting a Robotnik-esqe robot. After an Epic showdown between Sonic and Knuckles, the fattie uses the opportunity to finally steal the Master Emerald and re-launches the Death Egg. With the power of the emeralds, Super Sonic goes after Robotnik, who has taken the Master Emerald into space.

Sonic and Tails secure the Master Emerald and return it to Knuckles on Angel Island. With it’s power restored, the Angel Island lifts off into the sky as Sonic and Tails fly off into the sunset. Sonic departs from Tails to explore "new" territories...


Sonic Dimensions? That game is fake, it's a hoax. Even the president of Sonic Team said so himself that "it's nothing but a hoax"!

Oh, OK! Let's continue.


Transition to Modern/Dreamcast/Metal Sonic's Revenge Saga
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>>7592043
>>7592000
Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode I

Sonic takes off into the distance to take another attempt at a vacation before meeting Dr. Robotnik, who is very much alive, either through luck or the need for revenge against Sonic. Now trying to make himself known as Eggman, Sonic gives chase, unknowingly causing the start of Dr. Eggman's plot. The hedgehog takes out the doc's machines, eventually making it to the huge Death Egg-esqe station, the E.G.G. Station. Sonic destroys the Giant Mech and escapes, using his Chaos Emeralds to reinspire life in the Splash Hills. He gives chase to Eggman, eventually hitting a signpost...

Sonic CD

Sonic steps 4 years into the past of Mobius Earth, and decides to take advantage of the time of year to try, for the 3rd or 4th time, to take a vacation, but to Little Planet. He comes across an 8-year old girl named Amy Rose, who declares Sonic as her true love because of her tarot cards. She is captured by a blue robotic figure, called Metal Sonic, built by the Dr. Robotnik of this time after analyzing Sonic's destroying of the BADNIKS (!!!). Sonic proceeds to travel through time to stop Dr. Robotik's plot to conquer the world and Little Planet. Sonic takes out Metal Sonic, and rescues Amy from Robotnik's Clutches.
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>ywn be as cute as catgirl
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>>7592001
I'm not pretending anymore. I'm just being me, which is a grown woman. It feels so much better.
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>>7592028
Well, I mean at least you realize that and aren't going to potentially damage someone, that's my biggest worry when it comes to adoption. I fear I'd screw up my kids

>>7592027
Yupp
Makes sense to me, that's basically where I'm at these days
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>>7592009
what if i feel somewhere in the middle

>>7592014
faye that's a little gay
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>>7592045
>ywn be a dumbass socdem on leftypol
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>>7592034
>I've considered doing various ombrez
Ooo, that'd be sweet. I should have done something like that like a red/black ombre. Hmm

>I don't want to look like my sister too much and she's brunette
Oh yeah fair enough. People would assume you are trying to erase her, lmao.

>I like u with blonde hair btw
Awwh, thanks. How did you see a blonde pic of me? For months all I wanted was solid, white hair but it was sooo hard for me to achieve and maintain.

Someday when I'm wealthy and later in my life, I will keep my hair permanently white.
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Nim do I remind u of blaze in personality
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>>7592054
>>>/r/socialism/
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>>7592060
juni what
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>>7592050
No it's straight like someone I know who is repressing it
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can someone hold me until I feel safe
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>>7592069
ye if you want
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>>7592059
In one of yr yt vids, white hair is for oldies.. I could see u pulling it off but be careful with dying. All of my ex's hair fell out from that
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>>7592071
hugg
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>>7592068
not you too :(
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>>7592069
I'll do it for $20.
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>>7592028
thanks for the rare Rei.
Yeah, there's also that, as a trans woman it's difficult to find a way to obtain this. Society marginalizes us and it's impossible for us to ever be completely normal, even if we are just women who want to be normal.

>>7592036
oh yeah i definitely know what you mean.
I'm not sure, some of these things like my voice being manly cause me dypshoria and make me feel horrible. So I want to change that and get used to a feminine voice. The rest, like excessively female mannerisms i find kinda dumb, and always did. I just experiment with those and see what i find "normal" or natural. Makeup i'll probably experiment with as well. None of the women in my family wear it a lot or at all so that helps.

I guess "experiment and do what feels alright" is the best way to do this.
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>>7592023
Did you change your voice because it made you happy, or social pressure based on your appearance
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would you rather be one of three wives for an alpha male or the sole wife of a beta male?
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>>7592075
i don't have any money
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>>7592080
id rather be by myself forever
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Do I remind u of blaze the cat spiritually and or mentally
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>>7592049
>that's basically where I'm at these days
Aww.
I was kinda hoping that the feeling of "not being a real girl" would fade away after I'm fulltime and passing and have been for a while, but I guess it never does go away completely does it?
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>>7592080
>three wives for an alpha male
This one desu.

It also depends on how your alpha vs beta dichotomy is layed out....
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>>7592083
no ur amy and im eggman
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>>7592082
Iktf
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>tfw no juni gf
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>>7592072
>In one of yr yt vids,
oo.. reeee

>careful with dying
Yeah that's why I stopped going light. Constantly bleaching hair was no good for it. I've been dark for about 6 months now. My hair is way healthier. I've only died it once since going dark (just died it darker black/brown).

> All of my ex's hair fell out from that
I'd literally kms.
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>>7592086
The beta is insecure, can't protect you from predators, and will never argue with you to the detriment of your relationship
The alpha is dependable, WILL protect you from predators, and is confident and influential.
y'know, the stereotypical definitions.
what if you disliked the other wives?
>>7592082
bad taste.
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>>7592074
It's hard to tell I've never did anything with a boy willing, they've just forced kissed me
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>tfw still want to try freezebranding a bit of my hair to get hair like Anna's but I want to let my hair grow and it's painful and experimental
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>tfw too autistic to style hair
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>>7592050
I suspect you'll lean to one side of it a bit more after you transition. I mean, after a certain point it actually becomes strange to think of yourself as a boy. Like shit, I get weird dissociative feelings when I do things like use my male voice these days.

>>7592079
It made me happy. It alleviated my dysphoria to sound more like a woman. I wasn't pressured into it.

>>7592085
It gets better with time and I usually just feel like any other girl these days. Sometimes things will appear that make me feel alienated though. People will talk about kids or periods or other shit like that (not often) and I'll just not know what to say.
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>gf
Wrong
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>>7592080
beta guys are nice usually
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Epilator in the mail and scored big at the thrift store. Pretty good day so far!

>>7592080

Where do I stand in the wife hierarchy? Are the other wives also my wives? Am I their wife? When the alpha goes to work, do we just start having wild sex that only stops when it's time to put dinner on the table? There are important questions here! I need more data to make a conclusion!
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>>7592001
I want to be on HRT so I don't turn into a grown man but want as little attention as possible before I'm ready to socially transition so I kinda go out of my way to present as male (short of growing a beard because that makes me dysphoric)

also are you sure its all hrt though come on now :)
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Tfw want hair like this but also don't wanna be a faggo
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>>7592097
say ur born without a uterus
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>>7592097
>tfw you realize you aren't trans
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>>7592103
Gay, people will call you a girl
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>>7592010
JESUS CHRIST
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Y is my skin so bad
Y do I have darkness under my eyes today
Y is my body so silly looking
Y
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>>7592101
Idk! hypothetically just equals, bound by sharing a husband, kinda like in islam(but without all the restrictive bullshit). but I mean, I can't stop you from forming sexual relations.
>>7592099
wow, enjoy birthing inferior children.
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juni
>>7592112
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>>7592113
>reproducing
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Renren is <3
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>>7591985
This is day 11 and it's in new York. So hopefully really soon. Getting anxious.
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>>7592097
>I usually just feel like any other girl these days.
Well that's encouraging.

>People will talk about kids or periods or other shit like that (not often) and I'll just not know what to say.
Yeah, definitely.
I'm actually kinda glad I don't have periods, and I don't know if I'd want bio-kids even if I could have them, but still, having cis women try to talk to me about periods is gonna feel awkward.
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>>7592097
well i certainly don't want to feel like an imitation all my life..

>>7592094
isn't that a little molesty
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>>7592116
>not wanting to have a child.
lmao.
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>>7592119
if it already says it's at the sorting center then it already passed customs
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>>7592105
Never said that.
I really don't understand the pretending part though is a thing. I never wanted to feel like I was pretending to be a woman. I never did anything consciously to my body language, I threw out literally everything from voice training that involved swapping vocabulary or altering intonation. I don't in any way feel like how I present myself to the world today is pretending, I'm entirely a product of what's happened to me.

>>7592104
I mean would cis women even say something like that unless they were with super close friends anyways?
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>>7592080
Isn't the extra wives a good thing? I get 2 bffs and a good husbando.
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>>7592125
kys breeder garbage
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>>7592119
Are we no longer pretending you detransitioned?
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I'm so lonely.
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Farewell diaper babies
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friend elanna
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>>7592134
please don't post images of me here
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>>7592080
I'll take the alpha
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>>7592128
if someone is directly asking them about kids or period stuff yeah I think so
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When QHI finally ships your pills but now you have to wait for usps to get them to you
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Evening people!

Estrogen makes me get the sads really easy now :/

>before hrt
>family getting torn apart, dad losing job, daily arguements
>unable to show any emotion
>now
>just watching anime like madoka or kimi no na wa, or films like titanic
>can't stop the tears
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>>7592144
i started crying multiple times when thinking of a hypothetical situation
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>>7592144
Stop being such a hormonal bitch
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>>7592121
Yeah, the few times people have talked about preference in tampons I've just sort of been dumbfounded. Like, one friend who I knew before transition even did it once and then I eventually just said "uh, why are you talking about this to me."

>>7592136
friend laur

>>7592141
I mean, I feel like the people who I get close enough to even have those conversations with are the kind of people I'd be ok with knowing I'm trans anyways
>>
>tgfw frangi in 40 hours
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>>7592149
hugg nim!

>>7592151
no
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>>7592130
breeding is good, if you have the resources. and the alpha bf.
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>>7592152
>Yeah, the few times people have talked about preference in tampons I've just sort of been dumbfounded. Like, one friend who I knew before transition even did it once and then I eventually just said "uh, why are you talking about this to me."
this makes me feel jealous
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>>7592154
>tfw no friends irl
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>>7592049
Yeeeah.... I guess thats a good thing. I don't think Id screw the kid up, maybe give them a few negative personality traits- But I think they'd still grow up functional, I just think Id be an unpleasant unloving mother.

>>7592078
Rei is sometimes appropiate.
Ugh, you're so right. This is why I dont ever want to get into activism or anything, I want to ignore the trans thing as much as possible.
>>
I want a bf that cares for me.
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>>7592158
when i move to new york we can be irl buddi's
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>>7592128
but like

didn't you feel like you had to consciously unlearn certain small habits

like say, spreading your legs really far apart when you sit down

>>7592144
i can't cry even though sometimes i really really want to let it go
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>>7592157
>Being jealous of periods
Why?
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Kale avocado onion cucumber quinoa salad with ginger scallion dressing for lunch!

Yummy!
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>>7592165
no im jealous of being perceived as a girl enough that girls would talk to you about periods automatically while still knowing you were trans
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>>7592156
>breeding is good
we need uterus transplants and to be able to make eggs from stem cells already desu
thinking i'll never be a mother kills me inside
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>>7592166
>salad for lunch
I just don't eat lunch, it's less painful.
>>7592169
Oh right yeah passers really like to rub it in your face here.
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>>7592128
Of course after voice training you are just a product of that practice, just like jay gatsby was a successful millionaire socialite

I guess I feel like I want a voice because of how society acts when I use my male one

I feel like I want SRS because most of society wants that to consider me transitioned, and my penis looks out of place on me now, and tucking feels like I'm having to hide in an attic from trump supporters during the day of the rope
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>>7592161
lol what is going on with that suit
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>>7592172
it's a really bad feel, kill meeeee.
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>>7592156
>breeding is good
no
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>>7592178
hugg anon!
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>>7592152
I heard that... for some people... uhm... after lots of sex... you can discharge blood...
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>>7592166
cool

>>7592173
maybe thats why ur fat
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>>7592173
Are you under the impression that ai'm forcing myself to do this? I legit love salads and greens and veggies.

Sometimes i just add olive oil and a little bit of salt and I can taste every veggie. It's so tasteful and good!

10/10 would eat salads every day for every meal. : 3
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>>7592152
>Like, one friend who I knew before transition even did it once
wew

>I mean, I feel like the people who I get close enough to even have those conversations with are the kind of people I'd be ok with knowing I'm trans anyways
That makes sense.
I'm not sure what level of open I want to be with people about my being trans tbqh.
I definitely wanna keep it low key and not have everyone know, but I also don't know how close I want people to be before I tell them about it.
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>>7592010
Nice beard
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>>7592166
I'm making a fried chocolate twinky rn

Thanks for making me feel ashamed of my life choices
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>>7592184
>I'm fat because I don't eat lunch
>>7592186
Bleh not me unless it's mixed with meat. Fruit however I absolutely love that.
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>>7592173
>Oh right yeah passers really like to rub it in your face here.
Kayla pls
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>>7592155
When will my whore moans get to texas? ;-;
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>>7592192
yeah because you skip lunch then probably eat a bag of crisps everyday before dinner
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>>7592161
I'm not sure, but even if I end up passing well I wouldn't mind not being stealth. It could help improve people's image of trannies if I were well adjusted and stuff.

Stealth sounds too stressful anyway.
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>>7592180
y-yes
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>>7592199
>well adjusted
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>7592175
It sounds as there is stuff you have to go over/think about before surgery.

If you feel you're being forced to do stuff by external circumstances, you might end up regretting them.

Anyhow, I hopw that no mayyer what you do, you'll be happy, because you deserve the world. ;)
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>>7592197
That's some great logic there.
>>
if you're stealth and someone finds out you're trans you have to kill them
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>>7592196
i have no idea sorry
i'm in the uk and qhi usually takes two weeks from whenever they received my order
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>>7592203
>tfw sass makes you question your life choices
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rate my no makeup, no shave boy mode please
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>>7592202

Not all of us are out of our minds! Though, who knows? Hormones might make me think and feel all different. I might stop being me and even be... happy. How terrible!

>>7592210

Oh, good. I was hoping to get a chance to use the edge on this hatchet.
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>>7592204
eat a vegetable
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>>7592163
ok
where in New York
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>>7592213
Nice figure
>>
trying on underwear makes me so nervous when the attendants try to offer to size me and make sure it fits with stuff like bras
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>>7592213
your body is wayyyyy to girly to pass
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>>7592215
>Hormones might make me think and feel all different
>might
Have fun being an emotional bitch regardless of if you pass or not
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>>7592175
That's where you're mistaken though
Yes, I raised my pitch and changed my resonance to a small degree to push it into a passing range. You have to realize how much other stuff I was told to practice that I simply threw out and didn't use.

I mean I think it should go without saying that the surgery you're getting should be on your terms, you shouldn't be doing it simply because you feel it's expected of you.

>>7592164
I didn't manspread
I actually don't know of any body language that I actively had to unlearn, I was always quite timid and tried to take up as little space as possible.

>>7592157
You think you want it, but then it happens and it sort of makes you feel like you're so far away from being what they are.

My ex's brother somehow forgot I was trans though and that was like the only time it was funny
>meet at pride
>have a tranny flag
>"hey neat glad you could come out"
>"hey uh, what's that?"
>"it's a trans flag"
>"oh shit, right, i forgot.."

>>7592187
It's a personal choice really
I'm ok with people that I'm really close friends with knowing. I don't know when I'd tell them, but I don't exactly feel like I want to live in a closet either

>>7592183
That's happened yes
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>>7592213
hips/10
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>>7592217
But why?
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>>7592189
Gimme twinky!

I ate the salad because I like it, not because like "health"

Also, I'm like piggy level, or did you not see my pic?

>>7592192
>Meat in salad
Ooooh i love niçoise salad. That's one of my favorite salads ever!
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>>7592212

Is that chocolate in there? Good heavens.

>>7592213

If it's boy mode why are you in a women's shirt?
###CHECKMATE###

The hair, shirt, and posture are all hurting your boymode. Feet apart, shoulders back, chest out!
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>>7592222
Do it, they just want to sell you shit, they don't care about your tiny bobs
>>7592217
Idgi I'm slamming pizza and twinkies but I'm not fat
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>>7592213
Fix eyebrows pls :(
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>>7592228
vegetables are good for u and you don't have to kill anyone to eat them
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>>7592232
pizza is a vegetable dumbass thats why you're not fat
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>>7592226
:/
i remember being like that in school but then some literally asked why i was sitting like such a faggot and told me i should sit with my legs wide like a real man.
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>>7592213
andro, but knowing your voice i know how i'd gender you (im jelly of your voice still)

>>7592210
when I get to australia, heads will roll
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>>7592218
manhattan

>>7592226
pride seems like a too flamboyant for me

i guess i can see where you're coming from but it just means they see you as a regular girl instead of a transgirl
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>>7592212
That looks so good! Will you make me one?

>>7592213
Nice body!
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>>7592238
you should go to callen lorde when you get there
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>>7592238
Isn't that place like really expensive?
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>>7592236
I usually sit with my legs crossed and noone ever comments on it
It's top comfy I don't get why people don't like it
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>>7592241
what's that

>>7592245
im going there for college
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are avocados trutrans
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>>7592228

They're delicious.

>>7592225

Looking forward to it, my manly stoicism is the source of pretty much all the emotional strife I've ever experienced.

>>7592234

Tell that to the undocumented migrant workers exploited every day by the system! Take that, vegans!
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>>7592248
informed consent clinic in Chelsea
>>7592250
they're exploited in meat production too tho
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>>7592231
Yes it's a fried chocolate Twinkie with chocolate breading and its oozing out and warm
>>7592230
No I can't see unsee stuff on my phone
>>7592226
Oh I know I'm in voice class now, I do most of that stuff anyway when I'm not memein but my mom tells me it's not feminine I just sound affected, which I guess is southern racist for like a faggot

As far as surgery goes, well I already payed for the first one and it's weeks away, I'm going to regret it but whatever yolo
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>>7592249
dont avacados have a high potassium content
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>tfw get surrounded by 6 teenageguys on the train and they continue to bother you and want your number and call you whore a lot and want to go home with you

spooky
but I guess I passed to them.
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>>7592251
will they give me injections
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>>7592256
they haven't killed me yet
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>>7592220
Thank you. I think my hips have been growing even though I'm old as fuck.

>>7592223
Reeeeeeee lol, i'll count it as a win

>>7592227
<3 I don't know where they came from to be honest.

>>7592231
>If it's boy mode why are you in a women's shirt?
I only own girls clothes. I didn't even wear boys clothes when I was a guy. :P I used to get made fun of in highschool for always wearing girl jeans.

>Feet apart, shoulders back, chest out!
Yes ma'am!!

>>7592233
Fix as in make them bushier for boy mode or thin out? I'm gonna go have my eyebrows threaded in 2 days, so yeh. Normally they are pic related.

>>7592237
Okie, thanks for your input. I have to go to the store and I didn't feel like shaving.

>>7592239
>Nice body!
thanks love.
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>>7592248
Lucky you. Have fun!
>>7592250
Hi Honeybee
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>>7592260
yes
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>>7592232
my worry is more theyll see my penis and my boobs are fucking b cups they aint tiny
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>>7592259
tell me what they look like and ill beat them up for you!
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>>7592249

Of course. Just look at that figure! Narrow up top, wide at the bottom. Pic related, those are avocado flowers.

>>7592252

You fiend, don't give me ideas, I have the wherewithal to deep fry things in my own house!

>>7592251

Yes, and dairy. Our entire capitalist system is built on human suffering. Rise up, comrades! Seize the means of production! Liberate our downtrodden brothers and sisters!

>>7592265

Good evening.
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>>7592236
>some literally asked why i was sitting like such a faggot and told me i should sit with my legs wide like a real man
i had the same experience at school lol
i had to learn how to act more manly to avoid standing out
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>>7592259
that sounds horrible desu :/
super scary
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>>7592235
Oh tru forgot they changed that law
>>7592249
No bananas are
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>>7592226
>It's a personal choice really
Yeah, at one point I thought I'd wanna go stealth eventually, but that seems really difficult and stressful, and I would feel like I can't get close to anyone lest they find out my secret.
atm I don't think I'd mind if people find out, but if/when I'm actually fulltime and passing, I don't think I'd want anyone other than close friends to find out unless they have to.
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>>7592256
yeah kinda but the potassium warnings on spiro are exaggerated like all my protein comes from nuts and beans and my potassium levels are still fine
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>>7592269
:D
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>>7592275
yeah, exactly.
Unlearning these things isn't hard but at least we get to feel inferior to people who didn't have to
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>>7592274
very good post
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>>7592264
>I have to go to the store and I didn't feel like shaving.
The one good thing about living in a cold place is that I can hide that part of my face with a scarf.
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>>7592259
ive never had anything like that happen but when a normal guy asks for my number its pretty nice feeling
>>
>tfw you create a mantra to use during epilation
THINK OF THE TUMMI THINK OF THE TUMMI THINK OF THE TUMMI
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>>7592259
Get your Muselschreck!
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>>7592252
>Implying I send u unsee pics
Well this is like the last Sass pic.
It doesn't matter if I post or repost because rare sass pic market collapsed so it's like W/E.
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i'm freaking out
qhi keep declining my card??
does this happen to anyone else??
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>>7592236
>"hey you cross your legs like a girl"
;~;
I had the same happen but chose not to try and fit in

>>7592259
Fucking hell are you ok? Did they hurt you or lay a finger on you?

>>7592238
Idk, I used to feel the same but I've kind of grown to like the fabulousness. It's bright and colorful and fun and there's shirtless dudes

>>7592281
Stealth is one of those things that I'm sure sounds better in theory than when it becomes an option. I've considered it but it seems so bloody stressful
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>>7592259
that's creepy af. no surprise though cause you are so beautiful :D

>>7592290
Ooo, true true. I need a scarf, they are so stylish!
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>>7592287

I've heard nothing but good things about Callen Lorde. I know people who have leashed themselves to NYC so they can continue accessing it, despite the high cost of living.

>>7592289

Thank you, comrade.
>>
>>7592298
need to use echeck I think
>>
>>7592298
Yes use E-check. Same with ADC.>>7592305
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>>7592259
you know they are white because she didn't mention race
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>>7592256
So does spinach ;~;
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>>7592298
Qhi didn't give me any problems with my visa card, just ordered the beginning of the month. Check with your bank
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>>7592271
>b cups ain't tiny
Oh hunny

^_^ just kidding, but why are you trying on bras with your pants off
>>7592274
It was sooooooo gooooood
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>be telling mom about my dysphoric morning while we walk the dog
>trip over my words and stutter my way trough sentences as i try to tell her i've never felt as dysphoric as i did today and that i hate being a boy and that my feelings keep me from focusing

i want hugs
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>>7592295
>tfw rare Shakira market has lost value as well
Hasn't completely collapsed though.
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>>7592314
why are your boobs so bigggggggg
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>>7592315
Soooon <3
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>>7592300
>>7592236

>Tfw people in my family used tell me to cross my legs like a man instead of a girl
;~;
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>ate bananas on spiro
>drink alcohol on cypro

i just don't care
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>>7592304
>honeybee is a comrade as well

i like this

>>7592300
>I had the same happen but chose not to try and fit in

i guess it was the opposite for me, this was during the time i tried to fit in the most
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>>7592318
I had boobs pre hrt
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>>7592322
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>>7592302
>they are so stylish!
And comfy!

>>7592298
Happened to me a few times right after I had gotten enough money. Took a few days before their system acknowledged that I had enough cash on my account. Ended up spending a month without HRT due to christmas slowdown at the post office...

>>7592222
Do they actually do this? I was planning to shop for some underwear irl and now I'm having second thoughts...

>>7592321
My classmates in middleschool used to call me a faggot for crossing my legs like a girl.

>>7592318
Pretty sure she has XX
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>>7592314
>tfw ywn have boobs like Faye
>tfw you just have small conetits that sit really far apart on your chest
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>>7592308
no they were sandpeople, turks. spoke perfect german though, and too young to be refugees.

>>7592300
more or less, there were other people on the train but nobody cared enough. was spooky tho, I had to get off in an area with no streetlights, cars or buildings, which is also the area where all publicly known rapes in the uni area had happened last year.
I dont fear a lot of things, rape is one of the few things I really cant deal with though.
they estimated my age to be FIFTEEN though?
I said I was 26, but then they said they were 47

>>7592291
has never happened to me, but I assume Id like it.

>>7592279
ya it sort of was ;-;

>>7592273
I cant tell turks apart :c
thanks though
>>
hi
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>>7592331
>no they were sandpeople, turks
Figures
>>
>>7592307
>>7592305
it doesnt give me the option to use echecks
united states isn't listed eligable for that
>>
>>7592331
turkey is europe
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>>7592331
why is germany letting this happen :(
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>>7592331
>no they were sandpeople
thank you merkel
>>
>>7592314
more buldge from my pants why would i take pants off thats just silly and b cups arent tiny just because you have udders doesnt make me tiny
>>
>>7592332
hi
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>>7592342
nim please don't be a dumb /pol/yp i like you
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>>7592325
I mean I didn't have a lot of reason to change the way I presented myself I was a theatre student and I was surrounded with people in theatre. If I'd have been bullied though I'd have been right there with you.

>>7592331
God damn
Fuck
What the fuck
Ughh I'm glad you're ok but that's terrifying

Tell me where they are so I can kick their ass for you
>>
>>7592340
triggered.

>>7592342
>>7592344
they were probably second generation immigrants
so for once, it wasnt merkels fault I guess.
>>
>>7592347
You don't tuck o.o?
>>7592330
>ywn take anons little boobs in your mouth and teach her how sensitive the little ones can be
>>
>>7592329
only if you go to a specialty store like victoras secret or some other place
>>7592331
its nice having guys ask for numbers but to me its really embaressing and idk how to react
>>
>>7592355
but there have been a lot of problems caused by the migrants :(

>>7592359
im buying you a private jet so you never have to take public transportation again!
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>>7592360
ive never been able to get tucks to work they always comeundone and become incredibly uncomfortable so i gave up on it and just wear dresses/skirts or pants if i have a jacket or something
>>
I hate tucking please doc just cut my balls off already so
>>
>>7592367
yay :D
>>
>>7592359
Do German women get off on being raped by immigrants on a train to atone for ww2?

I don't really get germanys attitude after the war, after the civil war the south just said fuck it and continued to try their best to take rights away from blacks.
>>
>>7592368
>>7592360
>>7592369
How do you tuck? I've never actually done it. I usually just push my stuff back and wear tight underwear.
>>
>>7592374
That's tucking.
>>
>>7592314
>tfw Get ignored by faye
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>
>>7592374
push testes up into inguinal canals and pull dicc back and secure it all somehow
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Fucking fuck shit ass dick shit fuck.

Saw the endochronologist, apparently my thyroid condition came back and she can't give me HRT until it's dealt with which could take months. Also, if I saw her first and not the shit one I saw the first time this came up we would have dealt with it the right way and not have this problem now. Fuck my life, I don't want to have to choose between going fulltime as a hon, putting my life on hold for 6 months, or transitioning after I'm already in an important job or school.
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>>7592373
arent you a leftist?
we just have to understand their culture Faye.
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>>7592360
Mine aren't actually that sensitive though.
But then again, I've only ever played with them by myself, so maybe if someone else played with them it would feel better?
I don't know.
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>>7592374
thats what i did but it never stays
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>>7592374
God tuck is using a gaff made out of the top of panty hose and a sock

Regular tuck I can't really talk about because you can't reall see my bulge even in just panties
>>
>>7592385
Why do you see people with darker skin as subhuman Sophie?
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>>7592373
>Israel antagonizes Arabs
>Drags in USA
>USA chases Arabs into Germany
>Germany raped
It's the perfect revenge
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>>7592362
>only if you go to a specialty store like victoras secret
That's probably out of my price range so I might be safe. Extra nervousness added tho.

>>7592359
Well the sad thing is that they will keep reproducing there for hundreds of years so the problem never goes away - if anything it escalates. Makes me sad.

>>7592374
I do the same thing + tight jeans keep stuff where they need to be. Can't wear loose pants tho or it shows but apparently there are some meme methods for that here with gaffs that I never figured out how to do.

>>7592384
HRT doesn't actually do that much - if anything after a certain age, you aren't going to turn into a hon in 6 months as unpleasant as it is to be without mones.
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>do a bomb ass tuck
>put on sexy panties
>get a boner
>lose your tuck
Every
Fucking
Time
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>>7592393
actually I think englando and france are more to blame for the underlying issues in middle east
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>>7592397
is it harder to tuck after srs
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>>7592397
and then i gotta go OUT OF MY WAY to find a mirror to masturbate at
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tfw the only thing standing between you and and a smooth bod is extreme pain
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>>7592359
>tfw third generation immigrant
Am I Aryan now?
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>>7592320
<3
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>>7592399
Who'd have thought intentionally dividing the Ottoman empire to cause as much strife and in-fighting as possible would lead to strife and in-fighting?
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>>7592386
>maybe it would feel better
>maybe
;)
>>7592385
I am, but the left in America is center right in pre nationalist fear mongering brexit euroupe

For example you have universal healthcare

In America it's leftist to say children shouldn't die without hospital care because they were born with a pre existing condition
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>>7592392
She doesn't. I have darker skin and she's my friend :p
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>>7592396
It's not that I'm worried I'll be a hon by the time I get them, it's that if I want to start anything long term till then I have to either go full time as I am now, a hon, or transition partway through.
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>>7592400
It's a lot harder to find your balls and push them up there
Havn't even gotten to the part where I have to pull my penis back
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>>7592397
elanna how do i train voice
pitch + resonance, i know, but how do i get the second? Just train pitch and i'll find it eventually?

>>7592405
>tfw immigrant myself
>look white so no one cares or gets upset

:thinking:
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I'm scared
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>>7592405
ur not from iran so sorry no
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WHAT
I GOT FUCKED OVER BY THE EXCHANGE RATE
I'M 40 CENTS SHORT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>7592392
but I dont.
I dont give a shit what colour anyones skin has. I just hate people that behave like subhumans, this includes whites.

>>7592366
yes pls :3

>>7592358
<3
worse things have happened to me. its sort of funny in retrospect, it was just very scary in that situation, because when I got off the train I had to walk home alone in the dark for like, 7 km or something and they threatened to follow me. but they didnt actually do it. so it was okay

>>7592411
no, that I know. I am rightwing, and I am pro healthcare for example.
I thought you were specifically pro muslim immigration in europe though.
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>>7592416
>Greek
They can tell
They can tell
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>>7592423
so why do you generalize people by their race
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>>7592414
HRT doesn't really affect hondom sadly. On a positive note it can be fixed with other things that dont take up to 4 years to kick in.
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>>7592379
I thought tucking involved shoving your testes up somewhere?

>>7592383
how tf do i shove them in my inguinal canal?

>>7592389
Hmm, ok.
>you can't reall see my bulge even in just panties
nice, I hope my shit atrophies to that point.

>>7592396
Yeah, I've only had my bulge show once in public. lmao

>>7592397
>when the AGP hits ya

>>7592423
>pro muslim immigration in europe
reeeeeeeee
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>>7592423
I am pro Muslims that have helped the coalition fight in Iraq and Afghanistan getting passports

I.e. Translators who are then kicked out of our bases when we leave and are targeted by terrorists as known collaborators should be flown to the Us and given passports

In the Us this is liberal thinking and has no support, every other country in the world just does this

As a soldier and a translator who has worked with them, and knows they are vetted for security clearances, this pisses me off
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>>7592416
This is probably not going to be helpful but I'll try ;~;
https://clyp.it/b4a2x41c
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>>7592431
Ropes just take a kick of the chair to solve the problem
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It's weird how much I've sought validation from strangers, how I look, how I dress, how I sound.

It's sort of fun because of the elation you feel once you get that acknowledgement is almost like a first kiss, but it's sort of sad because where does it end? How much validation will actually be enough?

It sort of needs to start with ourselves.
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>>7592441
elanna is so cool!
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Chelsea Manning got a commuted sentence
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WOOH NEW MUSIC
https://youtu.be/P3k7r_U8b40
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>>7592441
Awesome demonstration. :)
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>>7592446
this!
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>>7592431
Such as?

Idk how 2 not b uggo, pic related.
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>>7592447
commuted?
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>>7592454
the coolest!!!!
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>>7592411
>maybe ;)
Eh. I've never had sex before, so I don't know how different things would feel when someone else does them versus when I do them, but every time I've tried stimulating my boobs it felt pretty underwhelming.
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>>7592458
she gets out may 17th
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>>7592447
God bless Obama.
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>>7592438
we agree on that issue.
opening the borders for literally everyone was one of the biggest political mistakes this decade, but she ll still get reelected. its mindblowing.
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is it normal to get really horny when you drink?
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>>7592441
>tfw don't know what any of that means or how to do it
I'll just kms desu
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>>7592447
:3
>>7592463
obama is a rollercoaster, he just pulled some NSA bullshit a few days ago https://interc.pt/2iQs6vR
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>>7592441
:|
https://clyp.it/hs15whcm
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>>7592447
nice
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>>7592462
best thing obamas done in a while though thats not saying much
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>>7592472
Am I like the only trip here who doesn't sound like a girl?
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>>7592479
no lol
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>>7592479

buzz
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>>7592444
rude and doesn't fix the external issues

>>7592438
But europe isn't specifically helping those in need, they're helping the ones that are best off and got the easiest access to travel to europe. Most of the people coming to finland at least aren't even from conflict areas and migrate through many safe countries chasing for the social benefits we provide for even the people who are technically rejected entry at border. It's pretty fucked up that they sell this as a humanitarian effort that costs billions upon billions while ignoring those who need help the most.

>>7592457
Longer hair probably helps and with a good voice you'd probs get gendered right. Normies think you can't sound like a girl with XY so they instantly believe you're a cissie if your voice is convincing enough.
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>>7592482
>>7592483
Post voice
Anyway at least you haven't been on HRT for a year. I look like a woman and sound like a man, that's not cool.
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>>7592472
it sounds kinda decent
when you say 'this perhaps?'
when u go higher it sounds good
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>>7592491
No thanks it's embarrassing
Last time I just got laughed at.
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>>7592479
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1iNT05STaAQ
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>>7592496
;-; aw
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good things to practice voice on?
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>>7592479
nope, I dont either. I just sound weird tho, not like a man either
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>>7592479
definitely not, i've made serious plans of becoming a mute lol
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>>7592502
bordiga
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>>7592479
no me neither

https://clyp.it/5qnl3bdo
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>>7592505
honestly learning sign language would be a lot cooler than this
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>>7592441
enable downloads on this please
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>>7592500
You do sound a bit faggy though so that's good I guess.
>>7592505
Lmao i've seriously considered this too
>>7592507
You sound likea girl.
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>>7592506
what?
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>>7592504
must be the bill
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>>7592516
read bordiga (out loud)
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>>7592438
I guess america has a tradition of fucking over it's allies.

My english history teacher in highschool was a retired Marine gunnery seargent and the last person out of the Saigon embassy. He always told of his great regrets leaving friends and collaborators behind.

My dad was kidnapped by tge Guatemalan Army under flawed information. He was taking us to school when an army truck bashed into us. My dad just turned back and said: stay in the car. He got out and had his head bashed in by a machine gun butt.

I saw him collapse to the ground and my grandmother leaped out of the car and another soldier tried to bash her face in but luckily she covered her face with her arms and got a laceration on her forearm.

My dad was tortured and we thought he would never come back because the army had this habit of fissapoearing bodies by throwing them out to sea or into one of the many active volcanoes in my country.

As luck would have it, t here was this general passing revision for the guatemalan army's human rights violations against civilians. My maternal grandfather's cousin worked as a US embassy cultural attache and she gave my grandfather the head's up.
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>>7592441
https://clyp.it/orflil0a
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>>7592479
Lets be fair, in the only trip that sounds like a real man

https://clyp.it/pubk1oas
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>tfw attempting to record something but my voice is too hoarse
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>>7592491

My loins are girded against embarrassment. I could not think of what to say, so I opened the nearest book and read a bit. Slipped down into man voice a few times because I haven't much practice.

https://clyp.it/ajve0i2q

And now to listen to it myself and then distract myself by cooking.
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>>7592472
Sorta kinda
I think you're kind of getting the idea
What's also important is not just making it small and bringing it forward towards your mouth but also being able to take naturally like this. It takes a lot of practice.

>>7592467
https://clyp.it/psfdqbdo

>>7592453
Thanks ^^

>>7592446
Nuh uh
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>>7592528
tfw cant even talk right now cause i ate spicy and my mouth is on fire

yaaaaa buddi
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>>7592505
>>7592509

Sign language is dope. I know it, everybody should learn it.
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https://clyp.it/02jkrlxv
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>>7592522
Falsetto is a pitch thing, another thing is to keep your pitch from going to high because it sounds like you're straining

>>7592512
I can't, I don't have an account ;~;
I think you can look at the page source for the file though
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honeybee is dope
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>>7592479
https://clyp.it/awmtwxs5
sorry
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I hate getting anxiety overt stupid shit
I'm calm now after relaxing for a little bit and listening to some music but fug
>>7592479
I don't sound like a girl
>soon
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>>7592530

fuck, my lishp, girding unshucksheshful

kill me now
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>>7592536
Sadly I think this school I'm going to requires me to be able to speak as I didn't sign up with any disabilities. Boymode is my best option, which is a bummer after being fulltime for 6 months
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>>7592546
PURU SHUT IT UR A GIRL AND UR GONNA BE A GIRL AND SOUND LIKE A GIRL AND LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER WITH UR GIRL

OK GIRL?
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short PSA, most people know this anyway already: I had fallen back into drugs about 2 weeks ago. I am off them now (again), but I am sorry if I hurt someone while I wasnt myself.
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>>7592531
>https://clyp.it/psfdqbdo
I have learned so much.

>>7592546
>Sadly I think this school I'm going to requires me to be able to speak as I didn't sign up with any disabilities.
That is hilarious. Does being a tranny not count as a disability?
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>>7592531
Thank you.
Problem is that I can't feel resonance well except when I make an 'o' sound
Also sound recordings make me really sad
I just have no real motivation I guess :(
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>>7592536
idk anyone who can speak it tho :(
i've honestly wanted to learn it waayy before but it annoys me that there's no universal sign language and dutch/greek/english sign language is different.

>>7592539
>>7592531
okii thanks ^^
I'm going to consciously practice this stuff every day from now on, I've been slacking way too much

>>7592551
:(
glad you're better now
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>>7592552
>Does being a tranny not count as a disability?
Not to liberals...

>>7592551
:O what drugs have you had problems with in the past?
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>>7592531
I Tried your gay classes and it didn't work, thank god for surgery

https://clyp.it/looudtte
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>>7592551
If only there was some way to slap people over the Internet.
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>>7592551
It's okay to fall. I guess it's impossible to quit that stuff forever. I'm having trouble too.
What's your poison?
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>>7592543

that fucking scene

>It would really... hate the table!
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>>7592557
Damn liberals. Good thing Trump is going to fix all that.
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>>7592554
The 'o' sound is the hardest one.
Focus on that one especially and you'll probably make some sort of headway

>>7592552
What did you learn marathon master?

>>7592551
Sophie ;~;

>>7592561
https://clyp.it/eycv0zgg

>>7592555
Good luck ^^
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>>7592531
I just realized that was the voice thing I've been doing and it almost sounds okay, your really cool though
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>>7592521

Omg Sass. I wake up and read this... That's fucked as! Fuck Pinochet!
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Hey faggots
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>>7592531
mmm i should get back into voice training
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>>7592576
nikky! <3
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>>7592576
u look like a cissy
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>>7592555
>glad you're better now

not better, just out of drugs, lol

>>7592557
benzos.

>>7592562
rude

>>7592563
benzos ;~;

>>7592572
sorry :/
maybe Ill make it this time
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>>7592576
Wat up Polandball?
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>>7592551
we're here for you
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>>7592521
So my grandfather goes into the embassy and as he tells it he saw the general and flew himself to his legs and yelled as loud as he could: an Amwrican citizen has been kidnaoowd by the army.

So the general takes him into the CIA room and makes the oeraon in charge call
-Do you Have Sass's Dad there
-Is he alive?
-well, release him now because he's an american citizen you idiot.

So the person torturing my father asks him:
-Mr. Sass's Dad, are you an american citizen?
-Yes
-Why didn't you tell us this?
-well you never asked me!

So my dad gets thrown in some far away part of the town and hitch hikes his way back home

Thw doorbell rings and everyone starts screaming. I make my way through the crowd and see this deformed r d man with oarts of his hair torn off and his eyes shut because if the beating he had received.

I remember waking uo as day broke and my dad was vomiting blood in the yard.

He was debriefed in the us embassy and left directly for the US. My mom my brother and me were denied citizenship and just given some resident visa thing and left 3 months later.and that's how I grew up in Virginia.

My grandfather got an anonymous call telling him he had "tocado los huevos al leon" literally flicked the lion's testicles.

He applied for a visa/asylum and got denied and had to go to mexico with the rest of my mother's family.

After this, the US stopped military aid to Guatemala and prohibited the selling of US military weapons, a ban that is still effect to this day.
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>>7592566
It was great
I still couldn't get over Dave Willis voicing Andy. I just kept picturing Carl from ATHF instead.
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>>7592530
You're halfway there
I feel like shit now, even pre-HRT girls have girlvoices. Ahh maybe I'll just be a femboy.
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okay, i'm going to bed i suppose.
Goodnight girls :3 and thanks for the help Lanner
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>>7592581
That's because I don't use makeup. Makeup just mess up your skin - avoid at all costs.
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>>7592570
u know trump is a liberal right
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>>7592588
>ATHF
My nigga
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>>7592552
>Does being a tranny not count as a disability?
Nah not really as it doesn't affect my ability to move at the facilities or interact with the staff. I mean, at least in theory it doesn't, who the fuck knows how bad I'm going to break down there.

>>7592549
Easy for you to say with your cissie voice. It's bad enough that they got all my paperwork as a male in there and that I'm going to have to explain to everyone over and over that I'm trying to be a girl. But to do it with a guy voice? Fuck me.

>>7592592
it's not fair to mock people who dont look cis
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>>7592575
It's Guatemala and this much later pinochet, almost at the end of the cold war.
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>>7592591
g'night!
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>>7592580
hi nim why are you not active on discord?
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>>7592592
ffs helps too....
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>>7592591
good night
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>>7592593
Uh...
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>>7592591
nini
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>>7592597
I saw recent tier list you all look great. Also to whoever make those....

Please, change my picture to one of these
>>7592592
>>7592576
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>>7592592
Is this a meme? Cause makeup is the only thing hiding my beard and acne scarring so if it isn't I'm pretty fucked regardless.
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>>7592589
once you're on hrt you're not really in a hurry to do anything else, you're not going to get any worse so you can just take your time with everything else desu
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i'm gonna practice voice tomorrow afternoon i think
i'll be home alone so less chance of someone hearing me

thanks for the motivation, grills <3
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>>7592598

That's so stressful and horrible... I'm glad that's all over. Sheesh people are fucked up!
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>>7592610
well you havent seen me they dont put me in those tierlists - not popular enough
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>tgfw my drug guy is gonna send me some free MXE because I helped him a few times again
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>>7592601
which discord? :o

i really only post on my own

you can always message me!

nim#7638
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>>7592441
Question: to feel the resonance correctly forward/upward I have to bring up the pitch to about 280 Hz, and at around 220 it's in the middle of my throat, what do?
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>>7592617
not being in the tierlists is a good thing desu
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>>7592602
It was just forehead anon. It didn't change that much.

pic related pre ffs.
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>>7592582
awww, love. I know how difficult benzos are to abandon. My sister died when she was 16 and my mother starting abusing xanax. For the next 10 years it was a constant struggle to help her break free from them.

She actually ended up dying from benzo withdrawal. Her last week alive she was hallucinating, in severe pain, and utterly confused. It was sad to see. :(

If you ever need someone to talk to, you know I'm always here to lend an ear. I know I can't really offer anything to help you though other than words.

>>7592597
awesome image. saved
>cissie voice
:| you will have one eventually.

>explain to everyone over and over that I'm trying to be a girl
>trying
You are a girl, babe. You don't have to explain anything to anyone or answer to anybody! Nobody you meet will focus on it as much as you, you'll be fine.
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>>7592623
how is it beneficial
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>>7592594
I remember watching that shit when I was like 8 till it finally ended
I'd sneak out of bed, turn the tv on and put the volume on really low and watch Adult Swim. Shows like ATHF, SGC2C, The Oblongs, Yu Yu Hakusho, and all that early Adult Swim stuff they ran makes me so nostalgic
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>>7592612
>Laser and electro for facial hairs
>Good skin care and HRT for acne

If you don't have money then you are right stick to makeup.
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>>7592615
Well thanks for caring. It's not over, thousands of oeople are getting fucked over like my father was, due to faulty information and a war against an adversary that can't be easily identified.

Now that Mr.T wants to return to torture as a way of getting information, it'll be back to business as usual.
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>>7592618
i thought that was like impossible to find or something
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>>7592629
>You don't have to explain anything to anyone or answer to anybody!
Surely they will do roll calls or something to make sure I'm attending classes and they will do that with my deadname. That's quite a bit of explaining to do :/
>awesome image
I'm going to miss my inspiration folder after the move

>>7592638
Laser and ffs cost so fucking much. Honestly baffles me that anyone can get it done in their 20's.
>>
https://clyp.it/clm01zk5
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Okay elannas voice training is to practical, mine will teach you the real way to get girl voice fast

https://clyp.it/4rv1wme4
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>>7592644
Everything is easy online
And I guess that it's very hard as compared to pre-ban but it shouldn't be much harder than any other drugs
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>>7592645
Rich parents or they whore themselves out.
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>>7592645
To be fair I work since 19 as a programmer so I never worried about the €€€. Sorry for being insensitive.
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>>7592645
>Surely they will do roll calls or something to make sure I'm attending classes
No, E-mail the teachers before your class and tell them the situation and to update their roster with your preferred name. They will gladly accommodate.
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>>7592587
oh bby, that sounds horrible.
I am so sorry you had to go through this
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>>7592646
iktf

>>7592645
what gorgeous artwork
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Fuck voice training desu, I'm just going to Yeson
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>>7592654
I suppose that averts the explaining in manvoice part at least. Worth a try if I can get the info in time.
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>>7592648
jesus dude
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>>7592621
https://clyp.it/ddny1mby

Last clyp for now I'm going for coffee with my dad
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>>7592658
How much does he charge? I've given up too.
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>>7592642

I meant it's over for you :) It's hard to care about people I have no connection too... That is messed up. I must say, it is funny though that the anglosphere has invaded counties for less under the banner of human rights violations.
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>>7592664
10k or so
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>>7592669
>10k
Fuck that I'd rather just train
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>>7592653
> mrw same.
Trying to get LHR asap because everytime I shave i get pic related.
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>>7592669
JUST
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>>7592658
i think you still need to do some voice training even with surgery
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>>7592674
oh my god I remember those. It gives me goosebumps
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>>7592669
>>7592679
Ok I'll just stay boymode, that'll solve the problem.
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>>7592674
HUGG

iktf senpai, same hair type, need laser for body since can't shave anywhere and nothing works
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>>7592663
Thanks!

>>7592674
Woops big af picture.
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>>7592682
voice is like the one thing you can reliably practice and get good results with though dont let that alone stop you
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>>7592679
For mannerisms and such
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why is my voice so hoarse all the time i don't get it
is it because i don't speak a lot or something or is that a ridiculous statement
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>>7592658
Basically what I did lol>>7592663
>having supportive parents

Fucking Stacy
>>7592662
What it's a top tier how to get girl voice
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>>7592691
But Faye failed.
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>>7592674
>tfw same and cant saving for it until 8 years for now
;__;

>>7592669
Oh god this too. I'm starting to think I'm done with the cheap parts of transition when I'm 35 at the earliest, after that I can look into SRS and FFS. Jesus fucking christ this is bad.

>>7592621
>>7592663
How to get to 200Hz or even 180 or whatever without it being super strained and airy sounding? Also how the fuck do you control resonance to your mouth, move it "upwards", make your voice "smaller" and all those things? I've read so many guides and it's always the "just do it" step. I've been at this for 9 months practicing fulltime and I'm running out of time.
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>>7592703
Don't use my shitposting to justify quitting
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how to voice good
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>>7592683
>>7592681
hugs :(

Ironically, epilation and waxing works fine for the rest of the body... but can't do that on face lol.
I found out that shaving dry (even tho I started using medically inclined/hypoallergenic shaving foam after some time), disinfecting after shaving, and putting face cream on 2 times a day helped, but it's still there mostly (even tought it hurts less)...
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>>7592703

Say that out loud and slowly. Faye is not always a good girl. I love her <3 but I would not be calibrating my expectations or hopes on her experiences.
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>>7592710
I just gave a top tier how too
>>7592648
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>>7592721

Use morph vox and never go outside?
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>>7592710
practice it came to me naturally so i cant really give better advice
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>>7592721
bully
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>>7592629
oh god that sounds horrible :/ I am sorry you had to go through that

I wasnt really deep in since 2013, was also the last time I had physical withdrawal, but I still end up on benzos for a few days/weeks every few months because theyre so powerful and press all my buttons.
my bf is trying to protect me from that. Hes the reason I can even function without drugs at all, but I just havent been strong enough to actually kick them for good. Part of me doesnt want to I think, I guess thats what makes it so hard?
But ive decided long ago that I love him and that I need to stop being a fucking idiot, I am just unable to actually make it for some reason. I guess fixing the whole being terribly depressed and anxious 24/7 would go a long way though.
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>tfw you will never be a girl because you can't afford voice training
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>>7592731
Voice training is free. Voice coaching is cheap. Voice surgery is expensive.
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>>7592731
we'll just have to practice on our own with free guides and it'll just take a little longer
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>>7592728

I take opiates. Have done for a very long time. Hard.
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>>7592723
Let's call that plan c
>>7592726
Think of the penises puru, it's your only hope
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pls rate my voice

https://clyp.it/duk0n50m
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>>7592728
:(
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love nim lots
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>>7592745
You sound like me with auto tune
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i'm very thankful elanna is giving us all these really good tips for free
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>>7592750
wow that really means a lot
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>>7592744
:(
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>>7592748
ilu sass sorry about all that
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>>7592714
everything including epilating failed me, even with daily exfoliating and all that, already doing electro on my face, need laser to thin out body hair before I electro the remainers
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>tfw going to go be a normie tonight and meet people off of reddit
>>7592731
I'm just going off of guides from /lgbt/ and reddit, I'm not paying for shit. My goal is have a girl voice by the end of the year
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snickers is here now!
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>>7592742
I got physically addicted to opioids after srs, took them like a year, but after I got through the being sick for a week after I quit daily usage (like 3,5-4 months after surgery) it wasnt as hard for me for some reason.
Idk, I assume people react to different drugs differently? I know a few people that somehow manage to stay on .5 mg xanax daily for years, while I went up to 4mg per hit in like 2 months back in the day.
I cant even pretend to understand it.

I hope you make it anon, Ill cross my fingers 4u
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>>7592765
im sorry im a rebel
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>>7592763
hi
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>tfw not cuddling birdy and nuzzled into his neck RIGHT NOW

my heart is breaking
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>>7592772
hi
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tfw no reason to live
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>>7592776
tfw no reason to die
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>>7592705
I wish i could help, but somehow puberty only extended my voice range downwards...
At first when I started voice training I read one that said 'get the adam apple high to get higher pitch' 'find where voice break and this is where is falsetto', etc... And I couldn't find a break and was very confused. Turns out I had been getting the apple high instinctively and used a mix of 'head voice' and 'chest voice' when talking normally (boymode? also i'm probably using no term correctly here, just trying to get the idea thru).
I suppose Life got really easy on that one for me, guess it's karma for the skin lol (cause i don't only have problem with my face with that, hands are mess too, + eczema because lactose intolerance, also basically can't have long nails otherwise it requires months of constant care if i stratch a place too much... still have a reminder of that on one of my feets).

> tl:dr life is hard and unfair
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>>7592728
>>7592766
>I am sorry you had to go through that
Such is life. We all have our unique struggles.

>so powerful and press all my buttons.
Aww Phie, yeah they really immensely powerful. It's crazy how widely pushed and prescribed they are in the United States. When my mom was at her worst, she was cycling between 3 different doctors and 3 different pharmacies. She took like ~10-20 xanax blues a day.

>Hes the reason I can even function without drugs at all,
He sounds great then. I'm glad you have him. Yeah, part of you may not want to quit but that's the thing with a real, physical addiction. That part isn't you. That part is an impulse that commands you. You are a stronk woman, I believe!

>I guess fixing the whole being terribly depressed and anxious 24/7 would go a long way though.
:\ <3 hugs to you my love.
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>>7592776
>tgfw have a reason to live again
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>>7592773

Goddamn, what's a chaser got to do to get action like that?
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>>7592766
>I got physically addicted to opioids after srs
i really hope i dont get in a situation like that from srs it sounds so bad
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voice training is hard ;~;
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I made food to distract myself. Mushroom, garlic, onions, pasta, freshly grated parmesan. I made too much but will eat it all because I have to.
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>>7592760
> Plebbit
Ewww... Race traitor!

>>7592766
I have myalgia and muscle weakness because of the same thing that caused my feminized brain. This lead to lots of accidents as a young person. So I have a bad knee and hip. When main joints are not in alignment it throws your whole body out of whack. I have mostly fixed this with constant yoga, but it didn't remove all the pain.

So I need the opiates... But my brain is addicted to the opiates and keeps wanting more. It's struggle Street sometimes. I have fully withdrawn several times. Had months off them. But the pain always returns, and I fall back into bad habits.

Though I have noticed that it's not quite so bad since starting HRT.
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>tfw you try voice training but you get embarrassed and have to stop
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>>7592785
thats why you have to work hard you want this right? youll only get what you want through hard work
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>>7592757
Thanks but I guess everything we've gone through makes us who we are.
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>>7592782
I had insane amounts of pain due to complications. its pretty unlikely you re gonna be as unlucky as I was

>>7592779
so nice <3
ya Ill try to do better this time.
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what happened to froggy
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>>7592792
s a m e
or my voice just
blocks
and i need to start all over again
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i feel like i add nothing to these threads :(
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>>7592776
tfw reason to live but still really want to die - no sweet release for me

>>7592778
Ah well. I suppose that's how it goes, life is unfair and some of us just aren't meant to have a fem voice. Literally all the people who got a passing voice have had it for a long time.

I got awful skin too, I need full body electro to have a normal skin that doesn't look like I got a disease and I don't think I'll ever be able to afford that. I feel you.

>>7592792
>tfw you try voice training but the dysphoria overwhelms you and you can't breathe anymore
everytime
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>>7592795
>tfw you will never be a cute nazi loli with a bell collar working diligently to relieve the needs of the lonely German soldiers to boost morale or raise a sweet Aryan baby to slaughter commies.
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>>7592728
Lol I'm sorry, I thought you had answered me. Lmao
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>>7592800
nah thats me
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>>7592795
okay thats good im a huge baby with pain so i hope i dont get an issue with that
what was the issue did something tear open?
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>>7592785
Do your best koshka! :3
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>>7592802
why live
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So we are all going to welcome our sister Chelsea Manning with open arms once she starts tripping here after her release right?
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tfw you try to gain weight but your impulse to portion control kicks in
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>>7592781
Be incredibly sweet and patient. And handsome and lovely.
And have a beautiful smooth voice that makes girls melt.
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>>7592816

I'd share if I could but you're not here.

>>7592818

tfw when you try to lose weight but your impulse to cook too much delicious food kicks in
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>>7592763
comrade!
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>>7592802
>slaughter commies
I am offend
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>>7592814
Oh course. I'm very happy they're letting her out. Very cruel punishment
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>>7592804
but I did sass
see >>7592655

>>7592808
granulation in a spot that was under pressure 24/7, and generally I heal really slowly because I tend to not eat a lot, especially when stressed. I am now like 119 or 120 lbs, fattest Ive been in years. Ive never been normal weight in my life

>>7592802
o-one day maybe ;-;
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>>7592809
I will!
>>7592825
ee-ee!
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>>7592814
oh really? she's a national hero desu
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Ok i looked at the Reddit guide ant the first thing they said to do is feel your adams apple and make it disappear, not sure what that means but here's my attempt
https://clyp.it/5nmh5mot
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snick snick
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>>7592839
Tbdesu you sound kinda hoarse and still have chest resonance.
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>>7592814
ill call her a faggot for tripping but then call her a hero for the info she gave us
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>>7592839
Sound like shit
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>>7592839

You might be a twat, but it's much better than the earlier one. Progress is progress. Resonance is still there, but improved.
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>>7592820
I can be most of these things... Maybe. Dunno what kind of appearances you girls like.
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>>7592832
Oh right yay! Thank you bby!
I <3 u so much
I don't get why brain is so scrambled lately ;~;
Maybe I need to sleep more
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>>7592839
I think your supposed to try learning how to move it up at will with same muscles that activate when swallowing
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>>7592858
Different girls like different things. As long as you take care of yourself.

Just bee yourself :^)
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I am sad
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>>7592867
that's what I am struggling with currently
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>>7592839
You were going to give up before you even started the basics? Come on lol
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>>7592874
same
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>tfw no children
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>>7592832
Hey this is me obviously testing trips. :3
>>7592861
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is this a good squat thingy
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>>7592883
Worst feel. I want a family ;-;
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>>7592883
>tfw only worry of why bf might leave you is that you can never give him children
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what about this
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Keep swallowing and try to hold your larynx up as long as you can each time, this will strengthen the muscles and help you find how to use them without swallowing
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Non Binary counts
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>>7592899
non binary is a meme for teenagers who want to be "unique"
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>>7592893
obviously fucking stupid
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>>7592899
I am so glad that I don't have a trip so I don't have to take responsibility for you.
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>>7592901
what about it is stupid
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>>7592879
*hugs anna*
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>>7592814
Me and her had the same job
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>>7592899
Non binary identities are valid <3
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>>7592900
Ok but you're wrong, Kiddo.
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>>7592883
im your child
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Where is maeve?
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>>7592888
yea i just need to be financally stable then i can adopt
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>>7592908
Fuck off.
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>>7592906
Did you ever meet before?
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>>7592839
I don't do that at all, I literally just try to talk in the front of my mouth and record adding some nasal or some soft pallet resonance until I like it
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>>7592904
*huggs alex*
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>>7592910
I like maeve
Has she been gone long?
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>>7592909
ill adopt you!
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>>7592911
I think you'll make a really great mom hanna ^^
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>>7592903
It's a great program if your only goal is to be able to stand up a lot. You won't get stronger and you won't gain real endurance.

If you want to get stronger you need to focus on progressive overload not doing a stupid amount of reps. If you want to get better endurance than go for a run or bike ride or anything else that can lost 40 minutes instead of 4.

But it looks nice as an image, so it has that going for it.
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>>7592917
She's been gone for like an hour. I miss her already
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>>7592913
No, I worked a more tactical position at a much higher rank
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>>7592916
uwu
I am less sad
>>
is buffalo chicken pizza trutrans
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>>7592814
Oh I was going to post about this also and when I read it I was so happy for her.

Lol, I doubt she'll end up here. She'll probably get some book deals and a movie and be a minor celeb.

Buy I would totally welcome her. She seems like a cool person
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>>7592899
If someone wants to, say, be on hormones without living as a girl thats fine
But if you are some bearded guy in makeup who demands to be called they please reconsider your life
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>>7592924
Yay c:
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>>7592920
i just want a nice butt i dont wanna be stronger

id be doing this in conjunction with biking
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>>7592918
:D
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>tfw no trap gf
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>>7592912
get out of my face you glass jaw'd cock sucker, i'll square up on yo ass in front of god and everyone here isweartogawd
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>>7592919
thanks
i hope so atleast
>>7592932
ill buy you lots of legos
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>>7592934
Literally this was me
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>tfw lonely
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>>7592922
That's terrible
Try spamming her discord until she comes back

>>7592925
Pretty sure all pizza is trutrans
Except pepperoni that's disgusting

>>7592929
^w^
Anna friend
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>>7592942
iktf
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>>7592942
Don't do that
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>>7592923
So soft palate resonance, how do you know that's active and working? my voice tends to be too nasal and my resonance is sort of male.
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>>7592944
lauren ily
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>>7592930
Do strength training. You're not going to get bigger without getting stronger. It also pairs well with biking. Follow StrongLifts 5x5, Starting Strength, or Strong Curves for the lady specific one if you want.

If you're super paranoid about getting big (you shouldn't be, while blocking T) then follow one of those programs and ditch everything that's not a squat, deadlift, or lunge.
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Jesus Christ, I owe $1000 dollars in taxes.
Get your health insurance, kids.
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>>7592942
hugg
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>>7592952
I don't have insurance
Wtf
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>>7592943
W-what's her discord
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Uh oh spaghettios
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>>7592839
That Larynx stuff is for fake sounding voices, it's about moving where the sound goes, can you do this?
https://clyp.it/zi3xo4cl
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>>7592941
How did you lose all your muscle? I'm still struggling with my lateralus and trapezoid muscles and i haven't legit worked out in 8 years. I never used steroids.
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>tfw want to eat but brother is downstairs
SUFFERING
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>>7592910
hi
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>>7592963
the US isnt even seeking Assange for extradition., Sweden is. This was just a PR stunt
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>>7592947
Do what?

>>7592954
Thanks hanna ;-;
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>>7592967
brother is mutually exclusive with eating?
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>>7592967
just eat your bro
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>>7592972
well, shes gonna have to catch her brother first if she wants to eat him I guess?
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>>7592971
be lonely
its bad for you
:c
>>
>tfw barely ever worked out and have 17.5 inch shoulders
;-;
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>>7592972
Yes I don't like being in the same room as him, he'll make snide comments

>>7592975
>>7592976
Bro is not for eating
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>>7592976
omg i made that joke first sophie

no stealing
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>>7592979
:( is he not supportive of your transition
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>>7592955

I made enough this year for single filers to get into the middle class, so I lost EIC and the health insurance exception.
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tfw youll never be able to have normal mannerisms without constantly thinking about them and keeping yourself in check
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>>7592964
>focusing on that aint going to give you a girls voice
Amen to that, so much time wasted. I shoulda just done the girl voice from the getgo by moving my voice up to sound like a girl. It's that easy, just do your girl voice to sound like a girl, gee how could I have been so dumb.
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>>7592964
that probably works better if you have a deeper voice to start with, mine just turns into a ridiculous falsetto if I try moving the vibration into my mouth
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>>7592981
He doesn't know, neither do my parents
He's just not very nice to me
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>>7592965
lol I don't work or lift things for 3 years while not eating :p
>>7592949
Feel vibrations, roof of your mouth vs nose vibrations, the key to voices is being able to push it around these cavities
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>>7592980
you just typed less and didnt use a picture reee :c
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>>7592977
Aww it's ok. I'm just lonely because boy isn't online rn ;-;
Thanks Alex though that's really sweet of you
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>>7592993
oh, that sucks

I moved away from my family as quickly as I could, in hindsight staying with them for as long as I did was really bad for my mental health
>>
>>7592995
omg are you being prejudice against non-picture users ;-;
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>>7592999
I'm moving out for at least 5 months in September
I'm gonna tell them about tranny stuff in 8 days though
>>
>>7592991
https://clyp.it/ethxkle1
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>>7592965
Have you done a caloric deficit with no exercise? The body will break down muscle before breaking down fat. That lowers resting energy use faster so is better for starvation situations.
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>tfw listening to canning in alaska
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>>7592941
what do you look like now?
>>
>too scared to try for months
>try
>get ripped to shreds
Thanks everyone
And I have no idea what resonance is. Fuck this is every bit as hard as I thought it would be. Seriously considering abandoning being a woman and just being a gay femboy instead because of this.

https://clyp.it/qnlxkb50
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>>7593014
I think resonance is like where the vibrations that make the sound are located, you want closer to your mouth I think, try feeling for them
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>>7593014
that accent will sound hot as a girl
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a recent studio audience was polled
the top 3 responses are on the board

fill in the blank /mtfg/
>>
>tfw waiting is shit and I want to see Frangi already
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>>7593011
>canning in alaska
idgi
>>
Which trip is the milkiest
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>>7593025
grace
>>
>>7592968
ily
>>
>>7593008
thank youuuuu <3
Also you sound really really good, like what are you hoping to work on with a therapist?
>>
>>7593025
me, I almost exclusively drink milk for decades snow
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>>7593035
switch to delicious soy milk
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>>7593025
Me up until 2 weeks ago.
....Was on the edge of buying a breast pump for relief & pleasure but that's agp af
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>>7593012
a man
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>>7593040
Do it and send bottles of valqmilq as gifts
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>>7593038
no, cow milk has been my friend forever, also largest source of estrogen in average american diet
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>>7593032
I can't really speak loudly & project very easy. I'm getting better but I'd like someone to expedite it. Yelling is hard.
Coughing is still male tho
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Yay for Chelsea Manning!
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>>7593048
please soy has estrogen too
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>>7593048
is drinking milk all these years what turned me into a queer
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>>7593045
What happened to you chubby lil cheeks?
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>>7593045
>>>...
Just....
.
.
Wew....
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>>7593018
I sound like a drowning faggot. This is precisely why I avoided voice training, I knew it would end in frustration. It seems my attempts to be a woman have come to an ignominious end.
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>>7593050
>coughing is still male

Voice surgery reason, I can't laugh cough sneeze like a girl
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>>7593056
I think it suppressed my puberty a bit, either that or I have something else wrong with me which is probably much more likely desu
>>7593053
I know but muh pregnant cows
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>>7593022
Reeeee, camping ;-;7
>>7593019
Sugar
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>>7593064
why do you say that
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>>7593045
i love your eye makeup so much
>>7593029
ily too anon
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>>7593061
I can laugh and sneeze girly.
But my Cadillac chest won't let the coughing resonance die.
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>>7593065
take a pic rn
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>>7593058
Weight fluctuations, makeup isn't bright and natural, it's intentionally a little harsh and cluby
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>>7593045
Did HRT make your lips that pretty?
Think I saw a prehormones pic of you once
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>>7593051
She would have been executed under trump rule.
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hi
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>tfw you don't know if you cough like a man
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>>7593066
I'm weirdly androgynous and look 14 at 20. Also got a few other issues that I need to get tested more for. first blood test this week so that might show something weird idk
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>>7593072
No they were pretty big, and I over lined them there
>>7593067
Cat eye best eye
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no known interaction betweeen spiro and cypro. nice to know. its probably better to taper off this crud.
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>>7593078
everyone says i look like 24 even though im 20

im also like 6'0 so..
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Yeah fuck this shit, I'll girlmode when I can afford the surgery. Funny I thought it would be my bone structure that would be my downfall, it's actually my voice.
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>>7593077
cough on cam 4 bitcoin
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>>7593086
I like tall girls :c
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>>7593077
Cup where your balls where and cough bish
>>7593080
You can stop spiro, but never stop cypro taper on and off
>>7593073
He definitely would have cut her hrt
>>
>tfw ugly boy and not pretty girl
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>>7593080
AFAIK its only cypro you need to wean yourself off of
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>>7593089
don't lie ;-;

>>7593090
what happens if you stop cypro
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>>7592994
>Muscle
But you eat fried chocolate twinkies and In n' out burgers! And you do like triathlon training! >:(
>Sounds
Rhis is so esoteric, i guess it's constant practice until you learn to ID how you can vibrate them.

>>7593010
Yes I did. Got down to 165 but I was ripped like a bodybuilder >:( bulging muscles and all. I rebounded to 215 after an operation and I'm down to 180 now.

>>7593045
Cute! <3
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tfw no bf
>>
Optimum weight for 5'7 starting HRT?
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>>7593088
N-no

>>7593090
Wat

>>7593095
Fucking this holy shit cypro withdrawal is unpleasant
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>>7593096
I seriously prefer tall girls, don't be sad buddi
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my mom always makes mistakes and then acts like a bitch to me and i don't fucking understand it
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>>7593107
"start it already"
>>
has anyone here diy trach shave?
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>>7593107
whatever yours is rn
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>>7593109
i dont wanna be a tall girl :(

>>7593108
traveler's check?
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>>7593113
don't do that, dangerous
>>7593115
I want to give you huggs :c
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Can you get an orchi if you aren't living as a woman? Taking spiro for the rest of my life probably will fuck up my liver or kidneys.
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>>7593090
im gonna start with 12.5mg i guess. youre sure?
>>7593113
sounds like a terrible idea
>>7593104
no no non o
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>>7593109
tfw ee-ee doesn't prefer you
>>
>>7593096
AG recommends that the daily dose be reduced by no more than 50 mg, at intervals of several weeks. The primary concern is the manner in which cyproterone acetate affects the adrenal gland. Due to its glucocorticoid activity, high levels of cyproterone acetate may reduce ACTH, resulting in adrenal insufficiency if discontinued suddenly. In addition, although cyproterone acetate reduces androgen production in the gonads, it can increase adrenal androgen production, in some cases resulting in an overall rise in testosterone levels.[30] Thus the sudden withdrawal of cyproterone acetate may result in undesirable androgenic effects. This is a particular concern because androgens, especially DHT, suppress adrenal function, further reducing cortisol production.[31] In theory, 5-alpha-reductase inhibitors such as finasteride and dutasteride may be able to mitigate this effect somewhat by preventing the conversion of testosterone to the more potent DHT.

Tl;dr it spikes your t
>>7593097
Body weight exercises are your friend, I also take months off and starve myself while training to reduce muscle mass
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>>7593113
i wouldn't recommend you do that
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>>7593126
>AG recommends that the daily dose be reduced by no more than 50 mg
i thought that the average dose was 50 mg

that's what ive been taking
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>>7593120
you'd be hugging my legs..
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>>7593122
You might want to keep on it while you work up your dose, but I wouldn't take more pills then you need tbqh
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>>7593045
I think you look pretty and I would stick my cock in your face
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>>7593113
i'm gonna try for a diy brow shave
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>>7593126
STOP
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>>7593121
I think so, I am going to ask about requirements this week to doc, I can tell you then. I think it's just a signed form from a therapist
>>7593125
oh gosh
>>7593135
I'm 5"6, it is no issue!
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>tfw no one to get high and chill with
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>>7593141
>5"6
x(
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>>7593115
I mean I'll do it for free when I get home
>>
https://getpostcookie.com/ot/the-couch-to-8k-cycling-plan/
Is this is a good cycling plan for newbies
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>>7593143
don't cry buddi ;_;
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>>7593126
>Bodyweight excercises train to reduce muscle mass
Lol should I google this, I've never heard of this before!
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>this should be the best day of my life
>depressed as fuck
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>>7593141
Yeah but I assume you're planning to live as a woman at some point which is why your therapist approved it. Idk what they'd say in my situation.
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>>7592899
I met a nb amab person who's pretty cool. A bit out there, but they're pretty nice
nb counts
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>>7593141
short girls need love too
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>>7593155
Don't get an orchi if you want SRS.
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>>7593138
https://clyp.it/nqbeml44
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>>7593154
>this should be the best day of my life
but y
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>>7593148
but im 6'0 that's a boy height :((

>>7593145
^^
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I just got gendered female so good..
She even saw me from multiple angles and heard my voice
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>>7593152
Long distance endurance + low calorie burns more muscle then traditional exercising it's like 50/50 fat muscle vs 75 fat / 25 muscle
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>>7593158
I did want SRS but that's not happening anymore for you definetly have to live as a woman for that. The orchi is a medical neccessity though because I am not stopping HRT.
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>>7593155
maybe tell them you plan to go full time when you feel ready, I don't think you need to be full time to be considered for orchi, voice your concerns about it to a therapist, that you want it for the decreased need in spiro and to eliminate a source of dysphoria
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>>7593161
im meeting my gf for the first time in person
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CAN WE RECONSTRUCT THE FRICKING OP POST
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>>7592663
So i tried a bit and i don't really get how i'm supposed to change the resonance... Is there an explanation for that somewhere?

Also maybe pretty funny i discovered i have sufficiently good control on moving the apple thing that i can keep it up at the lower pitch i can go with it up: i hit the lowest note i can with it and it's super weird. But then nope, can do lower, and unlock it lol.
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>>7593158
>tfw hate balls and want them gone asap
>tfw also want srs but probably wouldn't get it until at least 2020 (compared to this year for orchi)
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>>7593168
According to WPATH all genital surgeries require the same gatekeeping and an orchi is only a medical necessity if you don't tolerate anti-androgens due to existing health conditions.
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>>7593157
short girls are cute too
>>7593162
your a girl and I want to hugg you!!!
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>>7593174
should just leave all the transition info out desu, this is a blogposting thread first and foremost, if you need transition adivse there are other threads
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>>7593070
This
>>7593093
iktf
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>>7593093
it me
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>>7593192
>>7593192
>>7593192
new thread but please don't post in it
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>>7593180
yay ^-^
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>>7593173
:(
i hope you feel better
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Alrite lets go next
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>>7593164
Oh ok, like marayhon training? Won't that make you all saggy tho, I always see marathoners and triathletes like wasted AF and not healthy ( even though they are)
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>>7593097
What is your T level running at? I did bouncing up and down in weight and my muscle left...I was doing farm work during the time so not absolutely sedentary.
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>>7593236
I need to test myself tommorrow. :)
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