/mtfg/ - Male to Female General

>>7593192
hugg

*posts*

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>>7593162
https://clyp.it/tjlx3nzb
...I sound like a teenage boy when I cough

>>7593175
I mean, that's all in moving the trachea higher up. You can shape the sound with your mouth but it takes practice more than anything

>>7593195
im a lil sad

>>7593200
don't be sad ;_;
nim good girl

>>7593201
>tfw not being read to while I cuddle him RIGHT NOW

life is a cycle of endless suffering

>>7593199
>You can make the girl voice with your mouth but it takes practice more than anything
quality advice

>>7593201
Oops I didn't mean to quote you I'm sorry ;-;

>>7593201
you're sweet you know that

>>7593199
you sounded weirdly elegant when you were talking about dick

everything's bad everything's bad everything's bad everything's bad everything's bad everything's bad everything's bad everything's bad everything's bad everything's bad everything's bad everything's bad everything's bad everything's bad

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Tfw I have to work with shitty people

>>7593209
Play around with it, I can't tell you which muscle groups to pull, and everyone's vocal tract is different anyways.

https://getpostcookie.com/ot/the-couch-to-8k-cycling-plan/
Is this a good bike plan for a beginner?

>>7593220
no

>>7593225
Why

>>7593220
Just ride somewhere pretty or to run an errand a few cities over and make a routine
What kind of bike do u have?

>>7593220
Yes but you may not have a speedometer

Number one thing is don't push it too fast early or you'll hurt yourself and quit

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>>7593219
Yeah some people got girl voice and others dont, some people 'just get it' and others dont. Some people can afford surgery and others dont. Voice training is a fucking scam.

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>>7593208
Iktf...
>you won't see him until february

>>7593228
Idk just a bike

>>7593213
it ok
>>7593216
I do like candy ^^

>>7593232
Feb is really close!! It'll fly by and you'll see your qt boy in no time

get a garmin watch

cosmic space mommy

>>7593239
i REALLY need a mommy that loves me right now i'm dying

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>>7593238
game and watch?

>>7593237
It's been 2 days and I just don't want to do a single thing tho.

im gonna cry when i run out of hrt

>>7593216
I need to write up or find some poetry that works for describing dicks

>>7593230
>something that you can do in the comfort of your own home for no money
>scam
How often do you train and what do you do?

>>7593226
Couch to 5k for running is needed because bad form will fuck you up faster than anything. It's harder to have bad form with a bike and that can be almost entirely mitigated by having your bike fit. The plan you linked tries to mimic c25k without taking into account anything you should be doing that is bike specific.
Here's an alternate, simpler, couch to 8k for cycling.

1. Locate the nearest local bike store.
2. Take your bike there. Ask for help fitting your bike.
3. Ride your bike at a pace equivalent to walking-exertion for however long you like. If you do it for an hour you'll have travelled more than 8km.
If your ass is sore wait a couple days before your second bike ride. If you're going less than 50km at a time you won't be doing any real damage to your butt and you'll adapt quickly.

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>>7593248
idktf

idg how anyone can go through as much as squeak and still be alive wtf

I'm 22 and I've already tried to kill myself 4 times mostly because I'm poor, can't play the guitar and look like a man

how do people have such will to live?

(side note: I'm honestly surprised I don't know anyone directly who's died from my friendship group yet given they're almost all hardcore crack and ket addicts including some who owe lots and lots of money to bad bad people, I know of three friends-of-friends who've died of heroin ODs and one of my friends was the victim of an attempted murder for being lgbt but we've been weirdly lucky so far)

>>7593259
she's a pathological liar, she can live through as much as she imagines

do you ever go into an escapism binge and like "wake up" and get really sad and hate everything about the real world

>>7593249
https://clyp.it/nazkogei

>>7593252
i put every cent i can toward it
and it's been so stressful
and i'm gonna run out because it has taken forever

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tfw no husbando to struggle under the boot of the bourgeois with.

>>7593249
>9 months fulltime using/practicing daily
>tried all the tutorials i've gotten my hands on here and elsewhere
>adams apple not visible for months but no passing voice
>cant do fuckall about resonance because you just need to "get it"

>>7593249
now that you said it you gotta do it ^^

>>7593199
Alright. So i should practice on getting the resonance 'higher' (geometrically), do i understand right?

>>7593250
None of that includes the interval training and pace changes that develop speed and stop you from getting into a rut, which is what both these plans do

Wait so all you gotta do is jog for half an hour three times a week and do squats the other days and eat a bit more to get a tight, THICC butt

>>7593272
Oh and my falsetto is around 170Hz

>>7593282
No, it's genetics and you're a man, you won't have a tight, thicc butt, you'll have something slightly bigger but with the same gross shape because you're a man with no hips.

>>7593263
Every day I wake up

>>7593284
Whuuuuttt how >.< my voice is like 80hz and my falsetto is still 350ish

>>7593271
>Not wanting a husbando to plan revolution and seize the means of production from capitalist oppressors and distribute the wealth amongst workers.

>>7593272
How often do you use your voice daily? Aren't you a neet?
Also, have you posted voice here before?

>>7593277
Yeah, the source producing the sound (ie. the vocal chords) needs to be as close to the mouth as possible and it should remain there. Initially you'll know you've taken the chest resonance completely out of your voice because it will probably take on a nasally characteristic. The key after this point is to add in small amounts of resonance

>>7593281
Like none of that is necessary for biking
t. someone who bought a bike and was going on 50k rides within a week

>>7593281
tfw every time someone gives you fitness advice someone counters it with contradictory advice

>>7593289
I don't have dual X chromosomes and went through full puberty.

>>7593291
I did pick up voice chatting in the past 6 months, I try to speak for a few hours a day with people. I have posted voice here before but I get the same advise about 'just do it' or 'just change ur resonance lol' everytime

phloop

>>7593291
i was biking like 2 hours a day but i didnt know if i was actually do much cuz i didnt feel like i was going that fast

>>7593271
Comrade! you will find qt Proletariat bf if you try hard enough

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Just woke up from surgery, dr said it went great! I will update later when I'm more coherent.
Thank you all for the love/partners/thoughts~
<33

>>7593291
Ok, I think i get it. Many thanks!

>>7593295
I trained people before, ran cross country in state, and have taken classes and had training in this, you want to do variable speed interval training and mix it up, don't over exert yourself if you aren't used to working out or you'll lock up, and stop if you're in pain

>>7593309
sending e-huggs your way! <33

prayers^^
LOL darn pain meds

>>7593309
Wait what did ash have surgery for €.>

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>>7593309
Good job, I'm proud of you, hope recovery goes good!!!!

>>7593290
I'm a pacifist

i hate being a biological error

>>7593315
*hugs* thank you love you're amazing <3
>>7593317
Sinus tumor
>>7593318
Thank you!! Ily! <3

>>7593298
O.o


to get thicc butt look at track cyclists. POWER

>>7593309
I'm so happy for this! <3 <3

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>>7593274
Ok it's not poetry but...
https://clyp.it/yitf3n2a

>>7593325
>Sinus tumor
Thank goodness it wasn't something worse.
How have you been?

>>7593262
idk, I've known a diagnosed pathological liar before and their stories were nowhere near as consistent
like if you phrased a question as the opposite of what you meant she'd instantly contradict her previous story just to lie again without giving the appearance of noticing

It's definitely a possibility but I think if you accept the initial premise, that she transitioned young in 1970s New York and went into modelling, very little of what she says is actually that outlandish.

Even that she was acquainted with Bowie. I come from a posh gentrified gastropub town in the English countryside and on any day you can bump into A-list celebrities who own houses round there or visit. Around the time of Meet The Parents my dad talked to some fat beardy guy in his local pub and only found out the next morning it was Robert DeNiro. Johnny Depp has a house like half a mile from my parents (though idk how much he actually lives there) and John Cusack, Taylor Swift and Dave Gilmour (from Pink Floyd) are regularly around. I'm mates with the son of a famous 80s synthpop star (not saying who). It just depends on where you happen to be and I happen to be from the sort of place Americans go to experience how "quaint" we Brits are in a heavily staged and romanticised environment. but yeah you're right, it could also be a crock of shit for all we know.

>>7593334
i was friends with a pathological liar and he was exactly like that

>>7593325
lmao I thought it was SRS and was about to get depressed

vvvvvvv sad

>>7593192
>posts

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hi

>>7593309

Yay! I hope you don't look like a domestic abuse victim :(

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>>7593331
really makes me hmmmm

well-executed tho

>>7593341
yo

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tfw ur ugly

>>7593347
hey nim!

Think I'm immune to depression at this point
I know I can always kill myself if I fuck up really bad somehow so I just give everything my best shot and dont worry too much about anything else

>>7593349
wrong

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>>7593297
Did I just trigger ur catholic guilt?

>>7593352
o hey jackie!

how was your day? ^^

>>7593349
your p cute
and you'd be even cuter if you lost alittle weight desu

>>7593355
i hate it when that gets triggered
also i stopped believing in god when I was 13 so im not sure how it still works

>>7593349
wtf you look exactly like me

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>tfw in love

i dont want to be with anyone else this man is just what I was hoping for <3

>>7593355
What?

>>7593347
Hiiiiiiiiii

>>7593356
long! really long!

i'm always so scared and stressed and nothing gets easier and i can't handle it

>wont have a vagina til 2018
>keep flirting with people without telling them im trans
>mfw they ask for below the waist pics

why do i torture myself like this

>>7593363
how ya been grace?

>>7593364
is that good or bad :o

>>7593367
>2018
>torture
lol

>>7593371
wasnt saying the wait would be torture just that im fucking myself over by not telling them im trans and then idk what to tell them when they ask for pics

Has anyone here paid for voice coaching? I can't do this on my own.

>>7593368
i feel tired, and i still have homework and exercise left to do! but i'll probably be on for a bit tonight. but i feel really really exhausted.

>>7593374
take a pic of your gt that makes it look cute and feminine

>>7593381
this lol, if you pass that well i doubt they even believe it

i can't do this

>>7593247
Oh that sucks I'm sorry anon ;-;

>>7593386
What's the matter?

>>7593386
hugg

>>7593361

Glad to hear it's working out. I'm going to guess he doesn't still hate you for starving yourself?

>>7593377
i think im gonna start biking again! :D

but uh..i dunno when

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>>7593362
It's that thing that gets triggered when something is blasphemous or whatever
Like when you say the lord's prayer but make it about penises

>>7593359
Pointy hatted man follows u everywhere

>>7593393
yeesss pls get strava. everyone that rides pls add me

>>7593388
my brain is broken
i'm not gonna have hrt for a bit
i have nothing else to live for and everything keeps beating me down

>>7593217
Ikr?

>>7593395
I dont get how this applies to me but okay.
I'm just having the worst day of my life right now.

>>7593399
How long?

>>7593396
what's strava :o

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is this more or less what it's like when /mtfg/ trannies get together?

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Hello everyone, I hope you're having a good day.

>>7593406
yeah that's exactly what it's like

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>>7593401
Oh shit I realized I replied to the wrong post
Sorry >>7593355
was meant for >>7593345

Why is no-one helping me? Not all of us sounded like a girly fag pre-transition, following shitty Reddit guides won't work for all of us you know.

>>7593403
i don't know
i ordered today and it's at the mercy of a bunch of bullshit
i only have a few more days of hrt

>>7593393
Well I only wish the best!

Do good nim!

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Hello girls, how is everyone doing this evening?

I just had two great lessons. yay :)

>>7593414
I would but I haven't done any voice coaching, or really much practice at all, so I can't really help.

>>7593414
Yeah that'll get the (you)s man, nice.

>>7593414
help yourself

>>7593419
Lessons for what? Are you the student or the teacher?

>>7593404
tracking app for cylists and runners
>>7593414
huh? whats wrong? sorry hold on

>>7593414
elanna posted several clyp's in the last thread

i think it's kind of an "aha" moment that gets you really started

>>7593392
>starving myself

wut. I literally have zero income or savings there was no starving myself I didn't have anything to eat or means to get it

but he said he was sorry for being frustrated with me and stuff

>>7593414
do the meatwad method

>>7593414
I'm not mtf but I can try to offer some info. I talk mostly in my mouth. This sounds weird but try to talk upwards, as if your voice's sound waves were trying to reach the ceiling.

>>7593410
Thanks!
You too anon ^^

>>7593414
Pretend to be mute/not speak english

>>7593416
Aww, good luck >~<
Hopefully it arrives soon and you'll be okay
Hugg

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>>7593406
Exactly.

>>7593355
>>7593412
oh

actually yeah i think you might've haha

>>7593414
read >>7593230
Start saving money now for surgery. Don't fall for the voice training meme if you can't "just do the girl voice" as that's essentially what you need to do to 'train' your voice.

>>7593406
>tfw will never get a cute transgirl gf

>>7593432

>means to get it

>what is a bf
>food pantry
>credit

>>7593445
Chaser or transbian?

>>7593450
Don't be mean to korra ok?

>tfw you get an email from the sperm bank and you're instantly reminded that you were practically sterile pre-HRT
really weird feel

>>7593455
o i am laffin

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I wish nobody knew who i was

>>7593463
i love you

>>7593458
wait what?

>>7593453
transbian

im not agp i swear

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Even trannies that are right wing are superior. Why do you SJWs fail at everything constantly?

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>>7593464
you don't even know me

>>7593458
did you manage to get your blood done

>>7593414

I find that I'm very happy with my voice if I warm up into it by singing. I can't hit it cold yet, as evidenced earlier, but I get the most practice by singing in the car. An FtM friend of mine practiced his man voice by singing, as well, which is where I got the idea.

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>>7593443
>tfw no priest to dress me up in altar boy clothes and call me a faggot

https://youtu.be/yxEO6sUHEuE

>>7593467
my sperm sample was under 1 million, which is the lowest unit of measure they use

>>7593473
yeah that's what the email was about

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>>7593471
She's uncle tomming for kudos from people like you, i suppose she's superior in her abilities to play retards.

>>7593478
that's unfortunate

>>7593450
>implying he has unlimited funds
>implying I live near one or have transportation
>implying I have credit

>>7593478
maybe youre intersex

>>7593455

My apologies. I didn't mean to be harsh, just point out that she wasn't without recourse, as we all advised her the other day. I really am happy that she patched things up with her boyfriend, she seemed very worried about it yesterday, though I suppose I was a bit flippant in how I brought it up.

>>7593475
tfw you were the only boy altar boy and all the girls would talk about girl stuff while you sat in the corner and waited for mass to start

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>>7593481
>oh look he used to look male
No fucking kidding, because he's a fucking tranny. He transitioned beautifully, which I cannot say about any of you

>>7593486
yea :/

>>7593488
that'd be a pretty giant smack in the face to be intersex but also be my height with my proportions

>>7593493
angles plus lighting
marvelous transofmration!

>>7593498
also ffs

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>>7593427
I teach.

I was teaching music theory and audio production this evening.

>people care about Blaire White
Lol

>>7593493
>that browline

I thought she got FFS, what gives?

>>7593481
wew I'm glad I'm not the only one with crazy skinny pre-hrt legs

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>>7593498
>being this salty
he's not perfect my any means but looks much better than 99.99% of you failed abortions

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>>7593444
>>7593230
I'm glad at least one person here feels the same way. This is the final straw, I've ordered a helium tank. I'm tired of being a man, miserable, poor, a failure, a loser, lonely.

>>7593498
angles
lighting
ffs
makeup
editing

not saying blaire isn't pretty or doesnt pass, she is and does, but pretty much any slightly non-masculine dude can pass in a carefully engineered photo if desired.

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>>7593493
>blaire white

isnt she just Phienchen light policy wise?

>>7593514
wow you really got me man nice
you're being played

>>7593515
we both know helium is a meme just cancel the order

>>7593515
nice

>>7593515
at least get pure nitrogen and do it properly instead of diluted helium

>>7593524
nothing beats the original ^^

>>7593514
H O N

how to laugh/yell like a girl i swear its impossible to not sound retarded

>>7593515
Pretty sure the helium they sell for balloons is diluted enough that it won't kill ya.

>>7593524
I got to see a pic first

>hello, partyrama, i think someone is attempting to commit suicide with helium they bought from you. send the police to the address in London

>>7593532
giggle instead of laughing if the distinction makes sense

>>7593491
;~;
>tfw

>>7593524
Diet Phienchen

>>7593532
surgery

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omg
i slept for....ever. and just woke up. at 8:30 PM.
i'm no longer high tho so i'm back to normal agaainnnn. how was your day mtfg?

>>7593524
all I know about her is she wants to deny early transitioners hrt

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>>7593535
I never said anything about looks though

>>7593530
exactly :3

>>7593539
maybe I can be your diet tonight

>>7593515
why don't you try to OD on codeine+alcohol instead?
I'd have to imagine it's more fun than just sitting there waiting to die

as a side note I really think there are a lot of ways you could improve your life with some effort. it seems like you like to complain about how shitty things are and how tough you have it but don't really do anything to try to change the situation your in. even with this voice thing, you've been trying for all of 45 minutes and are already giving up and saying it's impossible and getting mad at other people for not helping you enough

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holy shit mtf is pretty cringe atm

can someone tell me why faggots like this loser actually think all trannies are SJWs?
>>7593471
>>7593493
>>7593514

pls kill yourself lol also see: >>7593524

Don't you realize we have the most beautiful and most fascist queen alive in this thread? Posting Blaire White when we have Phienchen is just hilarious.

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>>7593471
she's just a tool for the bourgeois to pacify us further.

>>7593543
you can't trust late transitioners with controlling anything to do with early transitioners because their bitterness always gets in the way
we need to leave it to psychologists who understand which is better for the kid
having more statistic would help too

>>7593538
it does, i do that now but it feels so impersonal, i feel scared to laugh which i think makes it awkward to be around me

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>>7593546
>can someone tell me why faggots like this loser actually think all trannies are SJWs?
They never leave their echo chamber.

So, having a brain fart. What's one of the online pharmacies? Preferably a US-friendly one.

>>7593550
luv u

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>>7593541
Good morning. It was good. I taught 2 lessons and wrote some music so thats nice.

>>7593515
no dont, why?

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>>7593532
>sound like a girl
>shout to get someone's attention
>sound like an angry fag

>>7593557
www.inhousepharmacy.vu/

>>7593539
i got the last laugh though now im a chick too

h-haha

>>7593544
*brushes your feather for optimal plumage*

>>7593546
zheanna is my friend

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>>7593556

>>7593566
why do people buy from IHP
it's more expansive than QHI and ADC

>>7593565
that sounds adorable tbf

>>7593489
*pats u*
Good bee ^^

>>7593536
Don't even joke about that

>>7593568
Quality echo chamber post

>>7593546
yeah but Phienchen looks like a man (and is one)

>>7593571
Availability, shipping, idk

>>7593557

ADC

>>7593564

aw dat sounds wonderful. what do you teach? :o

>>7593562
thanks :3

>>7593565
for me its like
>sound mostly like a girl
>deathly afraid of being outed
>never yell/laugh
>hardly talk

i must be fun to be around xd

>>7593583
friend edie

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>>7593573

I try. I'm in a good mood, I have big girl pants on for once in my life.

>>7593583
Aha. That's the one I'm thinking of.

>>7593566
Thanks as well, leaning towards ADC though.

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>>7593580
FINALLY, someone that doesnt hugbox me.
Ive waited for this for ages.

>>7593567
perfect :3

>>7593572
How is that adorable I'm a 25 year old woman and occasionally I sound like a 14 y/o queer boy, complete with my voice cracking

>>7593567
H-haha I bet they didn't see that coming

>>7593544
Wow, that's lewder than I expected from you

I used to light the candles for church all the time when I was young, did this make me a tran?

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>>7593593
>Wow, that's lewder than I expected from you

THATS BECAUSE YOURE NEVER ON DISCORD ;_;
that has been my catchphrase for MONTHS

>>7593596
yes

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>>7593580
Trip on Phienchen. You wont fool me. You are all girl and beautiful too!

>>7593583
>what do you teach?
I teach music theory, music composition, audio production, piano, and voice. Basically all my income is private lessons and writing music. :)

Looking to start a PhD in music composition this fall.

>>7593567
yes, nim. yes i am.

>>7593568
wow very edgy!!1

>>7593596
nah just made you repress

>>7593580

we're all men here

>>7593589

friend nim

>>7593591

ADC is way better, trust.

>>7593600

wow that's really awesome!!! :o i had no idea. do you love it? i betcha do.

>>7593524
yes
you two would probably get along well

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>>7593597
>DISCORD
what is this disk of cord you speak of?

what do you do in this disk of cord?

>>7593602
I liked the singing and nice old people

>>7593606
I'm bored as heck

What should I do?

>>7593605

honestly when i did that livestream with blaire we got along so well and everyone was so nice to us and loved the discourse.
i have no idea why anyone who actually knows her or pays attention to her vids dislikes her lol

>>7593604
>we're all men here

Everytime I look in this thread, it seems like there's some weird shit going on.

>>7593593
yeah that's cute ^^

you'd get all flustered and angry and when you started talking it'd just be all stuttery and adorable

>>7593597
>tfw you dont people in the discord's you've seen sophie on

>>7593606
sing for me ^^

>>7593571
>>7593591
>>7593604
ADC is frequently out of stock on lots of things and which site is cheaper depends on which drugs you get, fyi

>>7593596
..I used to do that too
maybe that's what did this to me

>>7593615

honestly something IS alway going on in here lol. i have no idea as to why that is. i stopped paying as much attention a bit ago tho so rip

>>7593621

ADC has never been out of stock on anything i've ever ordered and it costs me like 400$ a year for mones idk

>>7593604
>we're all men here
No kidding faggot. But at least you should try looking like a girl if you LARP as one 24/7

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>>7593604
I'm not a man

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>tfw impending feeling that your mom is trying to figure out a way to confront you about being trans

>>7593614
that's cool
what was the topic of the stream?

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>>7593606
its basically a more modern blend of skype and TS, with easy image imbedding, servers and a lot of stuff I dont understand. all the cool kids use it.

>>7593620
because you never talk there :thinking:

>>7593610
I liked the stories and Eucharist

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>>7593633
It will be okay. It might just be paranoia. Do you think she would react negatively?

>>7593636
i dunno what to say :(

pls help:
>be a tranny
>did some heavy petting activities with someone recently
>they kept trying to touch my thingy even tho i don't like that
>they ever jerked me off for a bit and i tried to get into it but it was really fucking gross
>jerked them off instead
>did nothing for me
>blew them
>did nothing for me
>tried to do it in butt but it hurt too much so scratch that
i don't even like it when people touch me or anything. is this just a bad experience? or is dysphoria exclusively making it impossible for me to have a normal relationship?

>>7593630
edie looks like a girl rich cucks pay her to go to dinner with them

>>7593639
yes

she got really mad when she noticed i had shaved my arms and angrily asked if i wanted to look like a woman

>>7593606
discord is great, you should give it a try

so the UK will probably leave the European single market
are there any continental online pharmacies with credential checks as liberal as QHI?

>>7593633
>mom has found girl clothes
>mom sometimes looks at my boobs
I think I'm in a similar boat

>>7593647
That sucks... I hope you don't have to be around her some day

>>7593630

i haven't been gendered as anything but female in years friendo lol

>>7593632

o-oh..

>>7593634

it was about trans people. trenders, binary gender identities, the politics behind social transition and transitioning young, etc
her fans are honestly really intelligent frankly and they had a lot of really interesting things to say. it was a lot of fun.

>>7593643
tbqh, just b urself


and b my gf

>>7593633

Head her off at the pass. Confront HER about HER being trans. She'll be confused and then more apt to accept the paradigm shift.

>>7593545
Yep everything is my fault, it's all my fault, it's always my fault. I'm killing myself are you fucking happy now?

>>7593638
oh the stories are fun, I'm not really religious though now but I like the ideology it represents. It's been a long time though

>>7593543
perfectly reasonable children cant make such a decision

>>7593653
imma mess your hair up ^^

>>7593626
IHP is much cheaper if you take cyproterone, and ADC doesnt have any micronized estrogen products. It's not always better but it can be, it depends on what you take and what you are okay with.

>>7593643
maybe you're not into him
maybe you're not into dudes
maybe you're not into anyone because of dysphoria/discomfort with yourself

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>>7593604
Hey, thanks!
>do you love it?
Yes, it is my passion. I have managed to support myself solely off of the creation of music and art since I was ~20. I've worked for orchestras, video game companies, film makers, record labels, etc doing random composition/arrangement jobs.

Now I mostly focus on teaching. I have students all over the world that sync up with me to learn whatever they wish. I love sculpting a pupil from the stages of a beginner all the way to a high level craftsman capable of pioneering and philosophizing.

I also make visual art. Pic related, my art.


>>7593612
uhm, idk why you ask me :D

>>7593620
>sing for me
But I have a contratenor male voice and it makes me wanna cry. I feel like a songbird too ashamed to let it free.

>>7593636
>all the cool kids use it.
WoW, sounds very hip then.

>>7593648
>discord is great, you should give it a try
Do you all practice your femme voices?

>>7593651
i think you might be in deeper shit than i am

>>7593652
i only have to hide it until august when i move out

>>7593656
flawless logic!

>>7593655
i'm ugly
>>7593663
i know it could be any of those possibilities i'm concerned over which

>>7593665
no i bet it sounds cute!

aaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

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>>7593665
>WoW, sounds very hip then.

apparently it is, I mostly just followed the trend when all my friends moved over and I dont want to be left behind. I still use my skype though, so I am still reachable there

>>7593659
same

>>7593668
just b my gf anyway

>>7593545
>giving up and saying it's impossible
Isn't it better to notice this early and not waste time chasing false hope?

>>7593665
I assume you misquoted there

i can't escape i can't escape i can't escape i can't escape i can't escape i can't escape i can't escape i can't escape i can't escape i can't escape i can't escape i can't escape i can't escape

>>7593661

p-pls don't ;-; it's all i have...

>>7593662

wow i didn't actually know that cypro was cheaper on ihp :o I'VE BEEN KINDA WANTING TO TAKE THAT but the side effects scare me desu

>>7593665

that's really amazing zhea. i love your art in general. very impressed rn ty for being lowkey inspirational lol

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>>7593620
;___;
But then I get all uncomfortable because suddenly I sound like a young boy and look like a girl and ughhh.
Feels weird af it's like my teenage voice got frozen in time complete with the cracking

what was the tipping point that made you realize "yep I'm a fucking train"

for me it was when I wanted to take hrt to be able to cosplay girl characters more convincingly. after talking to some other trains it became painfully obvious that was just an excuse

>>7593681
>but the side effects scare me desu
What side effects?

>>7593644
what about you?

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>>7593671
Go to 1:30 in this piece: https://zheaerosemusic.bandcamp.com/track/glimmershard

Also 7:30 here: https://zheaerosemusic.bandcamp.com/track/azurelisk

I have a big vocal feature there. I usually sing higher but I wanted to mix ranges here.

>>7593515
stop using your mom's money to attention whore your ""suicide". that's not going to work. find a tall thing and then dive off of it, wow!

>>7593660
if you're a tranny kill yourself for having that opinion

if you're not a tranny kill yourself for coming here and harassing us

>>7593686

increased risk of depression and the liver damage, mostly.
i've been struggling with severe depression my whole life so when i've taken things like dutasteride it can literally throw me back into the deep end.

>>7593665
Ohhhhhhhhhhh my bad sorry I quoted you by mistake >~<

>>7593658
I mean a lot of your current situation was caused by your actions. I don't want you to kill yourself, you have more control of your life than you realize

>>7593683
it's okay id just hug you so you wouldn't feel bad!

>>7593681
what if i pat you with all four limbs!?!?

>>7593689
omg im gonna listen to this after i eat

>>7593681
>but the side effects scare me desu
Same... I switched to it like 3 weeks ago and everything is good so far. I've done a lot of research into the pharmacology of different HRT drugs and basically as long as you don't do shit that hurts your live you are fine, and also if you get bloodtests and stuff there is zero risk. Hell, most people don't even do that and i've never heard of a major problem with these low doses of cyproterone.

>ADC Order Failure!
They're on to me. Does the echeck feature not work?

>>7593685
I could only envision the future as a girl

>>7593688
i look like a WHITE MALE desu

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I should figure out what I wanna do about SRS or orchi and if I decide orchi, get it some time this year
I'm tired of like, wanting to go do stuff like multi-day airsoft events and worrying about dehydration because of this damn diuretic

>>7593709

h-how is that possible oh magical nim?

>>7593710

are you on like 50mg? i've been really wanting to try it and i never drink alcohol or anything, but i'm still scared ;__;

>>7593658

I don't think anybody would be happy with that. There's pretty much nothing in this situation that is your fault.

>>7593701
Pretty sure the depression is due to it lowering T on guys and no sex hormones causes depression. The only hepatoxicity cases I found were on elderly people who used it to treat prostate cancer with really high doses. Like, spiro seems way more likely to cause unwated side effects or pop your kidneys or something if that's what you're on, granted that swapping meds for no real reason is not something you should take lightly.

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what should i order for dinner btw? i have no food in the house and i ate an entire large pizza by myself last night so now i'm like wat do lol

>>7593715
that's why i switched to cypro

i was only on it for a month and i passed out twice

>>7593717
im veeerryy flexible ^.^

>>7593729
horse

>>7593729
my dinner was potato chips and wine gums, pretty top tier

>>7593729
cock

>>7593717
Yeah 50mg is the norm for HRT, and it's been really effective on me so far. If you are big and burley you'd need to take more but most people take 50mg and then eventually step it down to half doses and less, as it permanently destroys your bodies ability to produce testosterone over time. There is a reason it was used as chemical castration in some places, and most the negative side effect you read about are for men who took it to fight prostate cancer at like 300mg doses with no hormone replacement. Since you are also on estrogen, the depression should be much less likely to happen.

>>7593677
>Isn't it better to notice this early and not waste time chasing false hope?
I would guess around 1% of trannies who transitioned after 18 can try doing a female voice and have it sound normal instantly
just about everything I've read about voice training says it takes a lot of practice

>>7593729
pizza

The saddest part about all of this is that nobody will care. Well my mum will but it's her job to care. But that's it, been here 25 years and people laugh at me when I say I'm going to kill myself. That in itself is more reason to do it.

As for the helium being diluted, it said it was pure, Mercury is either an idiot or more likely simply faked the whole thing. I can't fuck this up, I've fucked up too many things to fuck up even this as welI. I'm gonna get this right and at least die proud that I was brave enough to do it and not linger on as a public joke, that's all I'm going to get out of this fucking shit life.

>>7593727

i guess you're right (on all fronts.) it just seems like it could be better at minimizing what little T production i do have.
but at the same time i don't produce much testosterone and it's not like hormones will magically do anything for me now that it hasn't already done yknow
i just feel like it might so i should consider switching it up as dumb as that sounds lol

>>7593730

w-wow nim that's a really great skill..

>>7593733
>>7593734
>>7593737

wow dese are beautiful options
i just had horse and cock last night tho so what do

>>7593743

o-ok i'm gonna order it soon then!!!!!!!!! ;_; wish me luck

>>7593745

but i juuusttt had that last nightttt

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>>7593709
Then I'd push you away because I'm a gross teen boy that doesn't deserve to be treated like a girl

>>7593727
The depression is due to its effects on glucocorticoid levels and activity. Cypro made me fucking nutss

I have a convincing voice after months of training when I had a trannyvoice before, not really a guy voice but it was still disgusting so I got rid of it. Voice training isn't really a scam, it's just much harder work than just taking pills.

>>7593750
get a horse cock this time

https://youtu.be/PMyDK3VHYPw

>>7593747

woe is me: the post
if you're not living for yourself then idk what to tell you. people caring doesn't help your life lmao

>>7593753

dis tru

>>7593754

it was a horse cock
well maybe not that big it was only like 8"

>>7593729
Fried rice noodles with char siu

>>7593752
and then id get sad cuz id think id done something wrong ;-;

Which of the trips are the most attractive? also post pics as proof

>>7593750
You'll be fine :)
Jus tkeep in mind, it is a bit more expensive than spiro, even if you get it on IHP. It's nice to not have to pee all the time though.

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>>7593729
thai food best food

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>>7593744
I'm still waiting to see one person who got their voice in order by not just 'getting it'. Literally every single person I know that has a passing voice has either never had their voice drop or can just do a girl voice out of the blue.

>>7593750
It will kill your cummies tho if you like those. Like no semen at all.

>>7593750
yeah maybe i can demonstrate for you sometime ^>^

>>7593747
well I do care but I don't really know how to help you

also I think you are probably not going to kys and just want attn right now

>>7593760
be gone, chaser

how bad is alcohol when you're on cypro? from what i've read it makes cypro work less well and obviously they both stress you liver which can't be good.

I do try not to drink too much, but when i'm down or stressed I end up drinking kinda often

>>7593747
but you're not a public joke?

>>7593760

It's me, I'm a very handsome man right now.

>>7593712
Wait, shit, they sent an email about each attempt saying it went through and the links say the orders have been placed?
Huh. I may have just ordered a year's supply of estrogen by accident.

Or those will eventually cancel and my bank will be wondering why India is trying to take my money.

>>7593769
come on it's not nice to lie about things like this

>>7593768
it's bad
find another way to deal with sad feels like weed or something desu

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>>7593674
Roger that, my love! Wait, so like people idle in it? I thought it was like a VoIP channel, not a messaging app thing.

>>7593681
>very impressed rn ty for being lowkey inspirational
Thanks a lot! I really appreciate it. I'm just living out my existence the only way I understand how. I vowed to myself when I was 18 I would live a pure life of music and expression so that's what I've been doing.

It was really hard to transition all my art projects over because I lost a lot of my fan base simply for rebranding. I never announced I was transgender or anything. One night I just simply changed all my branding, name, etc. So a lot of my old fans just never knew and lost track of me.

I've toured the entire United States twice, several smaller tours, and a tour of Thailand.

Pic related is another one of my pieces.

>>7593729
I was gonna say pizza till I read further. Lmao

>>7593709
You better let me know what ya think!

>>7593758
>>7593762

omg maybe i should get some kind of asian food!! i do love thai desu

>>7593760

it doesn't matter

>>7593761

well cost isn't really too much of a concern of mine. i just worry about the depression stuff cause that has a much bigger effect on me long-term yknow? :/

>>7593763

i do cum a lot that's tru. but i'm kinda indifferent to that idk lol

>>7593764

w-w-w-w-w-w-wow o-o-ok nim...

>>7593760
eva
but I can't post pics

>>7593747
No one cares because you're going to fuck up your suicide just like everything else in your life.

i wanna get my bloodtests done but this privatemdlabs labs place only seems to let you do the tests at labcorp :/

i found a place that does blood drawings for 25$ and i know labcorp is gonna make me pay like 100$ just to test my blood

there's gotta be a cheaper way to pay for bloodtests rather than paying 165$ each time

>>7593775
i will!

>>7593776
heheh ^^ <33

>>7593776
Dry orgasms can look kinda anticlimactic tho. People are into that stuff

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Thinking about joining my local transgender support facebook group. Get some real help not help from crazy girls

>>7593784
*into that white stuff

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>>7593760
you tell me

>>7593767
I'm not chasing any of you. I'd rather chase landwhales than be a faggot. Just curious to see how many of you are passable