Trans Help General #131

>>7372798
Hello. How are we?

>>7372798

So how do you know when you have split ends? How long does it take before split ends start showing up once you let your hair grow out?

>>7372523
The fact that you look like that is why you're trans. If you were physically female you'd just be cis.

You're taking action to improve your bad situation. There's no shame in that. Of course there will be some irrational anxiety, but you owe it to yourself to push through it (and it will reduce your anxiety in the long term due to improving your body).

The technicians probably don't care you're trans; maybe some will but it will be at a rate lower than the general population if they're taking a job where they have to treat trans people fairly often.

Ok, i have a question about HRT if someone would be willing to help me.
I started HRT about 1.5 years ago but my dosage was increased REALLY REALLY slowly, because i'm only just now on max dose. Did this slow rise in dosage reduce my total feminization? I have heard that most changes end after 2 years but if i was on a low dosage was that counting towards that?

Basically, Did i get fucked?? Or will i be okay and it'll just take a little longer?

>>7372832
lungs are breathing
heart is beating
mind is spinning
soul is bleeding

I would like to have some advices about that

0617097783

>>7372832
Finally at the point where my electrologist is clearing a good portion of my face, other than that it's been a bad day/week/year/life.

>>7373675
???

>>7373632
So concise, I understand completely.

>>7373275
sparky I really love you and want to make love to you.

pls be my waifu

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>>7372973
Ok, i sent a message asking to set up a consultation. Thanks, that's what i needed to hear.

>>7374031

I'm not Sparky....and i'm not your Waifu.

I'm considering transition even though it'll probably end poorly, plan to cut my losses as a femboy in that case. My question is can I go through with FFS and still fall back on femboy if it fails or is that full retard?

Also is there anywhere I can go to really find out if I have a chance of passing? Get measurements done, projections, etc. and not suffer from hugboxing/hateboxing/echochamber/memes?

So, I think I might have eczema or psoriasis on my ballsack. (Haven't seen a doctor, just guessing by what I googled, might also just be a yeast or fungal infection) Does that mean I could never do Suporn for srs if I wanted?

>>7373632
#pottery

>>7374502
Also, it's not my whole ballsack but a decent portion of the underside.

How do I stop questioning? I've been in conflict over this for the last like 3 years and I am unable to get a professional and all in all I hate myself not for being male but for questioning.

>>7374952
Find an answer. Easier said than done, I know.
>Only the resolute will find resolution.
Make a decision, now, and go. Your life WILL be better without this issue, either way.

>>7374502
>>7374508

probably fungal.
try powder.
did you sit in a sauna without a towel?

protip: we are not doctors

>>7374977
Any time I make a decision and act on it, all of the resolution goes away the next time I get aroused (if I decide I'm a man) or when I cum (If I decided I was a girl)

It sucks because on those times I've decided I was a girl I even came out to people only to take it back days later.

>>7375143
Jesus Christ nigger you're just AGP.
Holy shit.
Go buy some pantsu off JList and beat your meat into submission whenever your "dysphoria" comes on.
Fuck. Someone post the flowchart I'm on mobile.

>>7375165
I know, I live on /agpg/ and it's just full of trannies who offer no help

Being AGP and being trans aren't mutually exclusive =/

>>7375175
That's just something fetishists who are already down the rabbit hole say to justify their mistakes.
You can be AGP and transition, sure, but you're not transgender. You're a fetishist making your life harder for no real reason besides the SHEER SEXUAL THRILL. Which is your right as a free human being but you could also not and that would be for the best.
Anyways you say arousal makes you want to be a girl, and being feminine arouses you by definition, so it stands to reason transition would make you at least a little hot all the time keeping you comfy in your choice... as long as you end up feminine or at least emasculated. So let your penis atrophy and you should be set, I guess. I'm not a doctor but that seems good to me.

>>7375214
You say that like I like being AGP. I fucking hate it.

AGP tends to go away upon a successful transition due to normalizing being female.

>>7375327
Pause and analyze why you are defending it. Is it because I'm being a cunt, which I totally am, or because you have found that this is in fact the right move for you?

>>7375357
Because it feels like that you are invalidating my issues solely due to the fact that they spawned within my sexuality.

>>7375165
>>7375214
>>7375357
you know nothing about agp
i'm neither mtf nor a*p, so i can be an impartial observer on this topic
the concept of agp was entirely created to account for the fact that so many DYSPHORIC TRANSSEXUAL WOMEN had fetishistic backgrounds -- claiming it's a contraindication for transsexualism isn't knowing the first thing about it

>>7375009
Have had the symptoms for a while which is what worries me and you guys always seem knowledgeable about stuff.

>>7372798
Is there a list somewhere of voice trainers for MtF? I know that self help exists but I'm shit at doing anything by myself without outside help.

If I'm skinny as fuck (16.5 bmi) am I permanently fucking up the development of breast and other fat distribution or am I just greatly slowing it?

>>7375805
Slowing it

>>7375823
Good. Thanks, anon.

Will a balanced diet contribute to HRT results? Also does more food help the spironolactone work?

Is it normal for growing breasts to go from "super fucking sensitive" to "kinda sensitive"and viceversa every once in a while?

>>7379104
that's been happening to me too, im 2 months hrt

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>>7379104
>tfw they were never sensitive at any time
>2 years in

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>>7379118
tfw a couple weeks in and they're already tingling a bit
Probably just imagining it but its still nice.

I purchased a stp device (Model D I believe) and it's great. However it's just collecting dust. I want a soft packer because I do not want to walk around looking like I have a boner at work. I just sit and pee 100% of the time. What is a good recommendation that isn't going to cost me several hundred dollars.

I'm a guy who wants to be a girl but doesn't really stand a chance at transition. I've got a lot of weird feelings about the way I look, particularly my masculine attributes including genitals, which may be dysphoria but may not. It's not that I need smaller shoulders/hands/feet, a feminine face, or a vagina or I'll kill myself, but I would really REALLY like to have them. It doesn't typically impact my day to day life at all but recently I've been looking into trans stuff and hearing it can only get worse is causing me to fixate on it. The thing is transition is not something I want to do for obvious reasons and if I don't have to I sure as hell won't. Being a manly freak in a dress is the last thing I want and that's really all I could pull off. What I want to know is if I should do anything about it or just continue on like this. I've felt this way as long as I can remember and it's never been any better or worse than this. Thanks.

How hard is it to do voice training and if I posted a vocaroo could someone tell me if my pre-training voice sounds as hopeless a it feels in my head?

>>7383560
Do not post it, it is as bad as you think it is.
It's not really hard, but it takes committment over a long time and is very slow. Like digging through stone. Sometimes you don't see the progress and lose hope but you just can't ever give up.

>>7379083
Balanced diet can only be helpful, being healthier helps with everything body related.

>>7379104
Yes. Mine will change even during a day, won't even notice them for a while then they'll be really sore for a bit. Fluctuates.

>>7383597
Will voice therapists help?

>>7383711
Yes, though it can be expensive. You can do it using just online resources too though.

>>7383723
Like online therapists? I'm currently using the DIY instructions but it's a lot more difficult than I thought it would to change my voice without any help.

>>7383760
I don't really know if there are online therapists.
I go see one in person every six weeks, sessions are an hour long and cost about £100.

By online resources I meant the DIY instructions that can be found online.

>>7383820
I'll keep persevering then. It'll have to work eventually ^^

>>7383597
Good news for me, I just remembered I have friends that are big into theatre and they offered to help me with voice training.

>>7384089
You'll get it eventually anon, just don't give up!

>>7384106
Wait you're not in the closet? Lucky dastard

>>7384163
No, I'm mostly in the closet. I just have a few close friends and my parents that know I was diagnosed with gender dysphoria. Only my friends know that I fully plan on transitioning. My parents think I'm still trying to decide.

>>7384498
Wow, I'm just full closet. I don't even tell my therapist cause nobody here knows what the fuck to do with trans people.

>>7384836
I'm sure there is someone where you are that can help.

>>7384915
Technically I could go to the trans club but it's mostly used as a way to petition the college to be more degenerate (more pronouns, more bathrooms, etc.). As far as I can tell they don't really do much else. Also I'm afraid they might find out that I'm DIYing and lecture me about how unsafe it is and ugh. It's just a shitty situation.

>>7384947
Ah, that is unfortunate.

Dear FtMs, I'm an MtF but want to boymode forever if my genes don't lend well to transition. How much does it cost to cut your tits off in the US? How bad is the scarring?

>captcha: stud ahead
Fucking NSA niggers toying with me.

>>7385019
How big are they anon?

>>7385082
They are not here yet. Do they charge by weight or something?

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I don't want to be transgender. I have enough problems without this. I've tried ignoring it, appeasing it with crossdressing and weird AGP shit, and reasoning with it but dysphoria does not want to leave me alone for even a moment. Every second I think about it it just gets worse. Electroshock therapy is a massive meme and absolutely not going to work, what else can I do?
>inb4 transition
>inb4 an hero
I wholeheartedly refuse to become a hon or a corpse.

>>7386109
I know that feel, been my life for a while now. Ignoring it makes it worse. If you don't wanna an hero or transition you could just try therapy. Or if you want to be really weird you can do what I'm doing and just take hormones but go boymode until the end of time. I have asian genes though so I've always looked fairly feminine.

>>7386165
I'd do that but I actually really like the physical capabilities of being male. Testosterone is a helluva drug and there's a reason men and women don't have the same sports leagues. I would like the boobs though. Not big enough to be seen by others but just something for me. I'm too late for hip growth and my face is FUBAR, surgery wouldn't do enough much less HRT. Can't get a vagina without going fulltime for years either, and neovags aren't terribly good (no offense to those who have/want them). I guess it stops further masculinization but... I'm pretty far gone already. I just feel like there's not enough.
My biggest concern is the voice in my head tells me I should transition, move to northern Idaho and construct a /k/ompound to hide from the world, telecommute to a programming job, and put a half inch hole in anyone who tries to disturb me in my degeneracy. I'm not a doctor but that sounds like the beginnings of insanity to me.

I'm in this awful loop where whenever I decide, yes, I want to transition, my dysphoria starts to reduce to such a manageable level that transition no longer feels necessary, so I decide maybe I shouldn't transition but then it'll flare like instantly and I'll get these catatonic episodes that continue until I agree to transition again. I feel like I'm being prodded toward the edge of a cliff and the only reason I keep walking is, if I stop, dysphoria will stab me to death right now rather than later.

>>7387219
Invite a medical professional to the equation. Stop trying to do this by yourself, you don't have to.

>>7386241
You too. You don't have to pull a Countess Dracula to transition. Don't call yourself a degenerate either, even if you're joking. It's not good for you.

>>7387243
Not who you replied to but why shouldn't we call ourselves degenerates? That's pretty much what we are at this point.

>>7386241
>the beginnings of insanity

sounds pretty normal to me.

insanity is more when you start to see faces in oil stains on the ground and hear voices telling you to do bad things to yourself or other people.

i think a lot of us want to hide from the world, or at least be left alone.

>>7387247
People who are having trouble accepting they're transgender don't need any more obstacles than they already have. There's a difference between making light of your situation and compounding self loathing. That anon has some serious self loathing going on, and wants to run off into the mountains to hide from it.

I'm coming out to my mother later this year. She's an immigrant and her English isn't good (top kek). Anyone have good online trans info in Chinese?

>>7387302
败类

>>7387790
Did a chicken just run through this thread?

>>7387846
絕望

>>7385019
>cutting off your tits
do you realise how dysphoric you will be over cutting them off?

>>7387243
I am a degenerate though. This is mental illness, or something similar. An imperfection that should be culled by evolution but is instead allowed to prosper by the graces of modern medical science.

>>7387286
Not all insanity is psychotic. Good point though.

>>7386241
Just watch me as I spike my estro shots with tren and deca.
That being said as long as you work out you will still be stronger than anybody that doesn't no matter your hormonal makeup.

Alright cockfags I've got an issue. I've been hitting the anime really hard for a long time and it makes me want to be the little girl. Pretty standard stuff but it gets weird really fast. After a while this longing didn't stop, even if I laid off the anime. Then I started seeing if I could go femboy for shits and giggles and attention from sweaty neckbeards. To my dismay my everything was either too big or too small. I kept remeasuring and looking at myself in the mirror and trying different clothes to give myself a more femme shape but nothing would do. This started making me pretty upset, and what's worse is these feelings didn't pass either. Fast forward to now and I can't stop thinking about it, and every time I tried looking up some way to fix X or Y I ran into dysphoric tranny posts. So I think I might have given myself gender dysphoria. I never had these feelings before but would watch moeshit and play as girls in vidya so its not like I wasn't a weirdo but certainly not a tranny. I would unironically transition right now if my measurements were better and that is not ok because this ain't me. I need to go back to the old me, ASAP, what do?

is there any real way to avoid getting cone boobs? more fat? less fat?

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>>7393145
JOIN US

Serious answer, I'd recommend therapy. Since it's impossible to tell if these thoughts actually originated from anime or if they existed before but you just haven't noticed it. Just go to a therapist and let everything out. EVERYTHING. That should help illuminate things. Also personal opinion, if they won't go away this may be the new you and you can't go back.

>>7393463
progesterone, maybe.

How long til I become sterile? I need to know how long I have to decide whether or not I need to bank sperm.

>>7397954
6 months to a year

>>7397954
Don't bank while on an AA, lower sperm density increases effective sample deterioration rate. The moment your test levels drop sperm starts thinning, needs a chance to get back up or your sample will be poor.

Is inhousepharmacy broken? I faxed them the echeck 4 days ago and I haven't heard from them since. It was supposed to be a 24 hour wait.

>dysphoria makes me want to die
>accept I'm trans and have to transition
>half of the stuff wrong with my body is beyond modern surgery
>accept I cannot transition
>dysphoria makes me want to die
I've been doing this exact loop for 13 months now and I just want to stick with unfettered dysphoria long enough to actually kill myself.

>>7399283
>>half of the stuff wrong with my body is beyond modern surgery
just fix the half that can be fixed then and maybe you'll feel better

>>7399338
Then I become a half man half woman freak. That's no way to live.

I've been questioning for a couple of years at this point, but it seems to come in and out and I'm not even sure why. I feel like I couldn't really fit in where I am due to personal issues, but at the same time I'll have constant fantasies about this stuff, but due to lack of experience I don't know whether it's actually because I'm a straight up degenerate or because I just hate myself how I am.

amab btw, probably bi and complete virgin. =\

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>>7399758
Yay fellow virgins!

>>7399382
And the way you're living now is?

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>>7399758
>>7399874
sex is overrated, i'm kinda in a same situation but i'll try HRT and if i don't like it i'll just stop :-)

Im 18 atm, and I just started the mtf journey, is it possible Ill get hrt soon enough to pass?

>>7399915
I don't know. I just feel like maybe I can accept never ever living the life that I live in my dreams, that's something people do. Like a child who dreams of dancing getting into a crash and losing their legs. They don't force themselves to try to dance with prosthetics because it's not really possible, why should I try to force myself to live as a female? It just can't happen for either of us and at best we become mediocre caricatures people recognize only out of pity. Instead of flailing around in a half baked dream I'd rather let this dream die and move on. Heartache is the cost of life.

>>7400421
Passing is more bones than anything since surgery and training can fix the rest. Shoulders, spine, and ribs; if they're too big it's just not happening. Hands and feet might make life harder too but won't clock you. Some debate (autismal shitposting) on skull size but the way I see it that doesn't really matter as much if at all.

>>7400480
>tfw youve been doing sports professionally in your youth

If i quit hormones after 6 months, will my dick start working again? I dont get random boners, dont last much time erected, rarely on the mood, and dont cum.
Will my tits reverse the growin

>>7400613
>will my dick start working again
yes
>Will my tits reverse the growin
no

>>7400525
>been doing sports professionally in your youth
if you dont understand what "passing is more bones than anything" means, it implies that doing sports or not in your youth wont change much. actually if you are fit (but not super muscular tho) it will help.

>>7400673
typically when you do sports as a kid, like swimming, your shoulders become wide

>>7400778
can confirm, my aunt was a professional swimmer and has bigger shoulders than i do (a trans girl).

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>>7399953
That's what I'm doing. Got enough cypro for a year if I super ration it. :D Still no luck with finding estrogen though.

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>>7401492
I'm just going through the official route, i'm not really in a hurry even though everyone here thinks that.

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How fucked are my shoulders? Can't take a decent pic myself because I sort of threw out my mirror so this is the best I can do.

>inb4 shitty hair
I don't do anything but wash it and let it grow don't judge me.

>>7402028
cant really say anything about it with a thick coat on and no hip size in the picture (shoulder size matters less is hip size is proportionate)

>>7400613
>Will my tits reverse the growin
i don't understand this question
with this logic. the breasts of women entering menopause would disappear which they clearly don't

>>7372798
How bad would the pussy envy be for a MtF gynecologist?

>>7402412
Presumably not that bad otherwise they wouldn't choose to be a gynecologist.

>>7402341
It's not a thick coat, there's no down in it. It's basically just decorative. That certainly doesn't bode well for me. ;-;
Anyways shoulders are ~19" end to end, hips are ~17" end to end. I know there's a right way to measure both but all I have is string and a ruler. Very poorly equipped over here. 5'8" tall if it matters.

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>>7403177
Hey you're shorter than me if that's any consolation. 5'10" here.

>>7403177
>~19"
Are you measuring the curve or are you measuring a straight line?

I'm very self-conscious about my shoulder size, I did a lot of reading and from what I remember, around 17" is the upper limit for female shoulders.
Don't take my word as fact though, someone will hopefully prove me wrong.

>>7403289
>around 17" is the upper limit for female shoulders.

Fuck I'm the luckiest bitch in the world

>>7403306
Size?
I'm somewhere between 16.5" and 17", plus I only wear shirts that make my shoulders look less broad.

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>>7403289
Straight line.
Welp, time to take up drinking.

>>7403333
I think it was 17 inches. But my waist-to-hip ratio is excellent, so even though my shoulders are a bit wide, nobody seems to notice or care.

(Still wish I were a real pear tho)

>>7400453
Not socially transitioning is an option, take SERMs if you don't want breast growth. It's not all black and white, you can compromise.

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>tfw 6 foot 7

So, how much should I expect to spend on hormones with insurance? I know, it probably varies due to whatever provider you have, but a ballpark would be amazing. I'm planning to move out soon, and I'm working on budgeting my money.

>>7404851
In case it matters (which it probably does) I'm in the US.

>>7404851
Well I pay like $70 a month for spiro and estradiol so you'd probably pay less than that depending on your insurance/location

>>7402412
a surprising amount of trans women are gynecologists
marci bowers is the most famous example

>>7372798
What websites are currently working? Just tried to order Progynova from IHP a few days ago and haven't even gotten a confirmation yet.

Would post in HRT gen but it archived.

>>7372798
Is it true that MtF have equal or longer index fingers than ring fingers? Mine have always been longer but I didn't think it meant anything.

>>7404851
i pay €40 per month for 25mg cypro daily and 4x 100mcg patches weekly
this is out of pocket before state insurance kicks in

I go to court for my name change tomorrow (im in California)

What do I wear?
Do I need to look fancy?

Can I wear a button-down blouse and jeans?
I dont have any women's slacks, and I feel like wearing my suit is going to look way too masculine.

>>7405266
Dress formally. No miniskirts, shorts, tanktops, etc. Pants and a button-up is fine. The court hearing won't last more than 5 or 10 minutes. You don't need to prove your ~femininity~ to the judge but def don't go in with a beard.

And congratulations on your name change. :)

>>7405920
so I can skirt by with jeans then?

thank you!
I'm really really really nervous.

Do I actually need to fax a prescription to buy hormones from alldaychemist?

>>7408408
no

Uh, so i'm one of the anons that asked some day ago if i may be trans and so many things happened. Anyways, let's get to the question:
Suddenly it feels like the porn I liked before doesn't arouse me anymore, while the idea of being fucked still do, did I turn gay overnight? Is that even possible?
Also i have to continuously keep myself from according stuffs to the female (according to the male or the female is really different in my mother tongue so I have no leeway here) while talking about me for some reason...
Am I so desperate to believe I am trans that something like this could happen? Or can the realization of that being possible be sufficient to trigger such mental change?
Also I somehow lost my aversion for hugs and lots of mental self-censor (? didn't knew i had those until i noticed they suddenly were gone), but those, i don't mind.
And all in the while I have no imperative desire to be female, i still fantasize about having boob and being more feminine...
pls answer I feel like a wreck and i can't convince myself...

>>7409702
sounds like you're trans to me

try giving in and just being as feminine as possible some day -- makeup, hair, clothes, nails, tuck, etc. I found I was never more confident or happier.

Of course then I started having issues with dysphoria, but I know who I'm supposed to be.

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>giant man skull
>thick man neck
>17/14 shoulders:waist
>minifridge ribcage
>short legs
>5'9" anyways
>size 10 US women's feet
>big man hands
>0.9 2D/4D
No matter what I do there will always be at least one thing clocking me. How do I make my heart stop beating?

>captcha: stop columbine

>>7410098
Nobody is going to be measuring you up and down unless you're buying a suit. Dress smart and do waist training, you can get a top heavy "hourglass" going. Your feet aren't that big, hands are probably fine too, and literally who the fuck buys into the digit ratio meme? Stop letting your dysphoria fuck up your perception and stop worrying about little stuff you can't change.

>>7410098
>not even size 12 Women's shoes

kill me

I am 23, a land whale (5'9" 260 lb), and considering MTF transitioning. How skinny do I need to get before I can transition and have a shot at a decent female body and curves and not a refrigerator body?

hey, i think i might be trans

never really felt "dysphoria," but if there was a button that would make me into a girl I would push it

thing is, i'm pretty stereotypically "masculine" (i'm the least feminine person I know and I couldn't even be if I tried), have broad shoulders, tall, big hands/feet, pretty muscular and so on. I'd be incredibly embarrassed at the moment if anyone found out

what should i do

>>7411704
i'm 20 btw

5'11.5 and 175 lbs

>>7411704
>hey, i think i might be trans
>never really felt "dysphoria,"
Congratulations you're not trans.

>>7411732
I never really felt gender dysphoria before and started hormones and after 8 months started to feel dysphoria then quit and I still have gender dysphoria.

Taking hrt if you aren't transgender will turn you trans after it's effected your brain for so long.

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>>7411791
I think you're just retarded desu.

>>7411791
maybe something like that happened to me

I never felt this way as a kid but when I started bodybuilding I worked on building up my testosterone, never did steroids but I did everything short of that

high testosterone can have some bizarre reactions (e.g. gynocomastia from steroid use)

first best thing would to be able to get rid of these feelings forever

second best would be able to passably transition

I don't think I can do either

>>7411802
>I think you're just retarded desu.
Hey there's no need to bully desu.

>>7411818
Yeah I've talked to a bunch of trans that this happened. I think it's possible that a lot of confused people think they might be trans for some reason, then try hormones for awhile and it gives them gender dysphoria and that makes them think they really were trans.

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Well, dysphoria is hard to peg down as a feeling imo... hell, if I can't be sure if I feel hungry/sad/depressed then uncertainty about if you feel dysphoria is possible.

I didn't insist I was a boy as a kid, my mom is a Tom boy so me having zero interest in dolls or floofy shit was unnoticed. For me it wasn't until puberty and the constant feeling that I was on a stage... trying to get my "character" right was first noticeable. I wanted on one hand not to seem like a dyke, even though I was secretly dating a girl, but changed into a dress shirt, slacks and tie for the graduation after party my senior year. Dresses were like costumes. I was disassociated from my body ... it was super weird. Sometimes I still get like that, but it's better when I'm on my meds.

>>7411643
considering transitioning or considering treatment for dysphoria?
>>7411704
there is no button
why do you think you are trans?

>>7411864
>For me it wasn't until puberty and the constant feeling that I was on a stage... trying to get my "character" right was first noticeable.

Holy shit, this. Even the dyke stuff; I tried to look like a tomboy even though I was already a boy and didn't like girls.

t. straight soft-butch mtf

>>7411869
i think im trans bc i want to be a girl

but i dont "feel" like im in the wrong body or think im a woman stuck in a mans body or anything

>>7411869
Well i'm starting therapy soon anyway, but I'm considering telling my therapist that I've been pondering whether to tell him/her about my dysphoria. The thing is I don't know if it's just my weight or also my gender that's causing me distress. Actually transitioning as in HRT would be a ways away.

>>7412038
>considering telling my therapist that I've been pondering whether to tell him/her

Yeesh sorry for the word salad, it's late. What I mean is I've been in therapy for about a month, seeing a new therapist soon, and considering bringing up, in the first session, gender issues.

>>7412044
Sorry to triple post, but here's the list of reasons I made about whether to remain cis or accept that I'm trans.

Trans
>memories from childhood thinking "it would be nice to be a girl". Not constantly, but it's definitely a thought I had recurringly since I was young.
*majority of my friends have been female, a lot of my guy friends have ended up coming out bi or gay
*hate my back hair and the fact that my hair is thinning, dislike other body hair
*want to be "swept off my feet" in relationships and take the more traditionally feminine role
*always hated looking in the mirror
*I feel like I can't recognize my emotions
*I feel different from everyone else
*drug use, and sexual experimentation at the same time (eg smoking weed to work up the courage to stick stuff up my butt)

Cis
*overwhelmingly more attracted to girls (90-95%)
*no desire for a vagina, and I'm happy with my twig and berries (other than wishing I had a bigger dick)
*always thought my problem was just body dysmorphia from being a fatfuck
*holy shit Transitioning seems like a hassle in about 50 billion ways

>>7411925
Dysphoria can be shit like anxiety or just body image issues it doesn't have to be that you feel like a girl on the inside or some shit. If you want to live as a female and want to have a female body go talk to a shrinker.

>>7412082
>I'm happy with my twig and berries (other than wishing I had a bigger dick)
that's a pretty big trans deal breaker

Can electrolysis possibly make, my hair grow back darker? Does it mean my electrologist is shit?

>>7412415
When done correctly, electrolysis will permanently remove hair. Sometimes an electrologist may need to treat a hair multiple times before it's removed.

>>7412567
The hair will be removed only if it's in the right growth phase. But can a hair that was not removed grow back darker as a result of electrolisis?

>>7411925
>but i dont "feel" like im in the wrong body or think im a woman stuck in a mans body or anything
That's a stereotype or a badly oversimplified way of explaining being trans to normies or something along those lines.

Do you feel bad about the masculine attributes of your body? Would you prefer them to be more feminine? Are either of those causing you problems (inability to function normally in daily life somehow, depression, anxiety, anything like that)? If you answer "yes" for any of those it's basically the same thing but without the wishy-washy bullshit.

Why do you want to be a girl?

>>7412576
>The hair will be removed only if it's in the right growth phase.

Electrolysis kills hair follicles. When a follicle is killed, hair cannot grow back. There are multiples phases of beard growth, but that's not what we're talking about.

>But can a hair that was not removed grow back darker as a result of electrolisis?

I dunno but just get the hair treated again until it's permanently removed. It should only take 1 pass to kill most hairs but sometimes more is necessary.

>>7412082
>*overwhelmingly more attracted to girls (90-95%)
Doesn't matter; cis girls can be lesbians, and non-heterosexuality is incredibly common for trans people
>holy shit Transitioning seems like a hassle in about 50 billion ways
Doesn't matter; how hard it is has no bearing on whether you need to do it or not.
>*always thought my problem was just body dysmorphia from being a fatfuck
What you thought isn't necessarily the case. You should look into this further.

The reasons for being trans could use some elaborating on. On their own none of them necessarily indicate you're trans, but it depends on the reasons behind them (and how it would relate to your perception of your gender and possible gender dysphoria). Like, why do you hate looking in the mirror? What does "feeling different" mean? How exactly does your body hair and balding make you feel bad? What was your deeper motivation behind the sexual experimentation and why did you need to work up the courage like that?

>>7412152
>that's a pretty big trans deal breaker
No it isn't. A large amount of trannies don't mind their genitals, or even like them. Even some cis people would prefer the other sex's genitals. I mean sure, you'd presume every tranny would hate their genitals and it makes sense that way, but that's not the case in reality. It's interesting, since you never really see, for example, MtFs that don't hate their extremely masculine jawlines.

>>7412589
>I dunno but just get the hair treated again until it's permanently removed. It should only take 1 pass to kill most hairs but sometimes more is necessary.
Where did you get that from. For some people it takes years to get all the facial hair removed.
>I dunno but just get the hair treated again until it's permanently removed. It should only take 1 pass to kill most hairs but sometimes more is necessary.
More like 15 to 30 treatments. Are you talking about some magical method I know nothing about?

>>7412641
>15 to 30 treatments
For women with hirsutism. It probably takes much more to kill a "real", more coarse bread.

>>7412641
Sorry, I meant to say individual hairs.

You're right about the number of treatments it can take to clear an entire beard. I'm working with an electrologist to remove my facial hair and he estimates it will take 60 to 100 hours.

>>7409957
Well I already did the things I have leeway with.
Still doesn't answer my questions... I know I most probably am trans, yet everybody seems to be more certain of that than myself (including my best friend)... I can reasonably say I probably am, but I don't feel like it. I don't know what I want.

>>7412659
I'm also right about the growth phase.
>The hair’s follicle is only present and susceptible to treatment during the first and perhaps the second stage of growth. If a hair is treated during the last phase of growth the effort is wasted because there just isn’t a follicle there to treat. Unfortunately there is no way to know what phase of growth the individual hairs are in. This is why it’s important to return for treatments frequently. If a hair is treated unsuccessfully once and then is given too much time to grow again it will once again pass in to its final (telogen) stage where treatment is ineffective.

what kinds of women's underwear look best on traps

>>7412811
>If a hair is treated during the last phase of growth the effort is wasted because there just isn’t a follicle there to treat.

Beard hair follicles grow in cycles, but they don't disappear. It's why we can't get on antiandrogen medications and expect our facial hair to shed off like snakes shed skin. When follicles grow in, they become permanent until manually removed. And because follicles are hidden in the dermis of the skin, the problem for an electrologist is finding where they are and treating them. This is why they'll ask you to come in with a few days of growth.

To quote my electrologist (who has 40 years of experience): "Being treated every 6 - 8 weeks is nonsense."

>>7412855
women's boy underwear

>>7412882
> but they don't disappear
They don't, but it's harder to eliminate them when they're not in the right phase, when the hair is not connected to them. http://topelectrolysisnyc.com/best-electrolysis-nyc-02-04-2014/
>Being treated every 6 - 8 weeks is nonsense.
Being treated every 6 weeks or treating hair that hasn't been shaved/removed in some other way in 6 weeks? If I shave a few days before the treatment wouldn't it mean that all hair present on that day is in the active growth phase?

>>7412900
>http://topelectrolysisnyc.com/best-electrolysis-nyc-02-04-2014/

Huh, that is interesting. I'll have to ask my electrologist about this. It sounds like a scam to get more money out of people tbqh.

>Being treated every 6 weeks or treating hair that hasn't been shaved/removed in some other way in 6 weeks?

Being treated every six weeks. My electrologist lets me come in with just two days of growth.

>If I shave a few days before the treatment wouldn't it mean that all hair present on that day is in the active growth phase?

No, it can take weeks or months for growth to cycle after a shave. There are a lot of dormant hair follicles.

>>7372798
Is it normal to envy pregnant women? I want to have my own child one day but that's impossible.

>>7414863
That's pretty normal.

>>7414863
Why wouldn't it be? Infertile cis women envy pregnant women; trans women, who are not only infertile, but infertile because they aren't even female (when they have a pathological need to be, would be even more likely to envy pregnant women.

>>7412985
> No, it can take weeks or months for a growth to cycle after a shave. There are a lot of dormant hair follicles.
I do not understand. So the hair that grows out after those few days may not be in the growth phase?

M(tF?) here. I've got ~6" of shoulder on either side of my neck for a total of ~17". Hips are ~13.5". 19 y/o so probably no hip growth left. Am I total hon tier or just seriously screwed?

>>7416111
nah, you're alright.

How are my shoulders? They're 15 inch across and hips are also 15 across.

36inch around for shoulders andd 37 inch around for hips.

>>7420302
Those are really good measurements. You have absolutely nothing to worry about.

>>7372798
At what point do you stop hating yourself? I just started hormones but I still want to die.

>>7421396
Sometimes it literally takes centuries.

>>7372798
Question on step 7 of https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/

Am I supposed to be able to lift my larynx up without swallowing or is it okay to use the swallowing technique explained earlier?

>>7421703
Eventually with enough training you should be able to lift your larynx with ease and without swallowing.

Currently, I'm about 5'8" and about 280lbs. Yes, I know I'm really overweight. I've already lost about 40lbs, but I know I definitely need to lose more. My current goal was to get down to 200-220 before starting to transition, but I'm not confident about those numbers.

So... Ideally, how much more weight should I aim to lose before transition?

>>7422054
0

transition now

>>7422086
I won't be able to until at least next summer due to housing and family shit anyways, Might as well lose some weight in the meantime.

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STOP WHILE YOU CAN TRANNIES!

DON'T DO IT! IT WILL NOT WORK OUT FOR YOU IN THE FUTURE!

>>7422164
How?

>>7422100
Why are you asking then? Just lose as much as possible (to a healthy weight) and then transition as soon as possible?

>>7386241
>I don't want to be a hon
>I just want to be a man with boobs

Huh

>>7421703
lifting your larynx is a meme
just push your voice forward

>>7424853
Adopting a female inflection helps too.

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I've cured my dysphoria... somehow.
A few weeks ago I woke up feeling great, didn't want to cry seeing my shoulders in the mirror, shaving didn't make me want to cut my throat, and I didn't feel.like take my spiro/E. So I didn't, and I haven't. I'm totally and inexplicably ok with myself, I don't even feel like drinking or smoking (not cigarettes). Does this happen? Is it temporary?

So my therapist "diagnosed" me with gender dysphoria, and he wants to talk to my parents. Is he gonna tell them that i should transition? I still hate the label of "trans" and i'd really like my parents to not know anything until i'm ready to tell them

>>7426151
this is common, you start on hrt and when it lessens your dysphoria you think you weren't trans to being with
if you stop taking your hormones it will come back in full force

>>7426417
This. Don't forget why you started taking HRT in the first place.

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>>7426417
>>7426461
Fuck all kinds of duck. I'm at 16 days off HRT, should I hold out for dysphoria relapse to see if I'm free or start popping pills again ASAP?

>>7426471
If you really are trans, don't expect to ever be cured. All you can do is learn to cope.

>>7426151
>>7426471
This sort of thing is actually pretty common in general, for people on any kind of medication.
Do whatever you need to. Some people need to go off it and get slapped in the face with reality to prove to themselves that they really need the treatment, some people will only suffer needlessly from such an experience or even feel demoralised that going back on it will make them feel better again.

Is the 'Try HRT/T blocker for a day and you'll know' a meme, or is it real?

>>7428722
Meme

>>7428722
Meme. It takes longer than a day for the effects to kick in, and even then you can be left feeling uncertain.

Generally, if you feel happier or 'at ease' then you should keep taking them.

>>7383760


Look up Zoey Alexandria on YouTube, she'll do lessons over Skype.

>>7428722
takes atleast a month

Good exercise routine for an mtf? I really just want some curves at my ass/hips and to have a good ab area, so I guess I care mostly about core. Don't have any equipment beyond a yoga mat and an elliptical. But I don't want massive thighs, so would the elliptical even be good?

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>>7434735
Weight assisted hip abductions, kickbacks and bridges. Lots of them.

>>7435497
Nice. Those are actually the exact three things I found for glutes when I was looking earlier and tried out today. Thanks anon.

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Anybody in Sweden that could help me get hormones? I have waited for 2 years and it's fucking enough, I can't stand waiting anymore. Any place I can get them without prescription?

>>7435679
No problem. I've been doing these exercises for a few months now and have had great results.

>>7435688
Order them online from QHI

>>7435688
are you close to stockholm?
i have some leftover cypro from selfmedding, it's about 130x50mg
you can get it for free if you can pick it up
also 2 years really sucks, i only had to wait for 6 months

How do I choose my first feminine/androgynous haircut to get

How do I not die of embarassment

>>7435803
I live in Stockholm but would prefer not to do it in person, any ideas on how we could do it? It's really kind of you to do this for me omg

>>7435809
why wouldn't you want to do it in person?
i'm not scary, also i've been on the mones for 14 months so you can probably beat me up easily
also it's really no big deal, they only take up space
i can throw in a box of progynova too btw

>>7435823
I do feel to insecure about this stuff I am sorry. And I am quite short so you could probably beat me up lmao.

>>7435833
do you have anything i can add you on so we can talk about this without flooding the thread?

>>7435838
Sure, I have kik and Skype just give me the contact to whatever works for you

>>7435846
add me on kik
finallyjohanna

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>>7435804
1) Show a picture of a female haircut to a hair stylist and ask specifically for, "something androgynous like this."
2) Go with a friend, grow up, and/or realize nobody cares.

>perform well at work
>boss says "Good man"
>try not to cry because you are a good man

fuck

>>7435963
You misunderstood my first question

>2) Go with a friend, grow up, and/or realize nobody cares.
I know they don't care, that doesn't mean I don't care. If I didn't care about my appearance I wouldn't be getting a haircut

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>>7436041
A hair stylist will be able to choose a haircut for you. You can find pictures of which haircuts you may like by searching online. Show them to the stylist and go from there.

Instead of starting a thread I figured this would be the best thread to help me gain perspective. So I'm a monozygotic twin. I myself am a gay male, mid twenties. I had a little brother, sister come out as transgender and I was like, "Alright, cool! I kinda saw that coming."Life continued. Today my twin brother, sister, also came out to me as transgender and about to start transitioning next month. Gotta be honest this hit me from a mile away. Never saw it coming. Besides choosing female characters when playing video games, they've been generally boyish in their behaviors. From oogling over girls, hanging out with mostly guys, and dressing in a more chill guy fashion sense, and constant attempts at growing a goatee just never crossed my mind they possibly felt this way. Knowing them like I know them I don't doubt the validity of their decision. Just worried how it will go. Also sad that we will no longer look alike, sound alike, and won't be able to ever do twin hijinks again. Not that they were keen on that in the first place. What baffles me is why we're different in that feeling when in almost every other way we think the same. If put in identical puzzle rooms and given an hour we'd probably go through it at about the same rate. If given the same set of circumstances we'd probably come to about the same conclusions and react in about the same way. Why do I like men and they don't and why do they want to transition and I don't?

>>7386241
Neovaginas are works of art for a while. If you get it done in the west. And oh they work. Mine does anyway. No offense taken.

>>7436416
>What baffles me is why we're different in that feeling when in almost every other way we think the same.

Sounds like a cry for help from a tranny in denial. :^)

In all seriousness monozygotic twins may share the same DNA but they aren't identical at the epigenetic and memetic level. Further even the DNA of monozygotics isn't truly identical. There are instances of micro recombination throught your chromosomes so you aren't genetically identical either. So to sum it up while you might looked the same at one point you really weren't.

>>7436541
>for a while

Is this just because of normal aging, or does it get really bad?

>tfw bullied a transgirl on the internet again

how do I stop /lgbt/

I feel like I'm doing good and then I see a tranny and get mad because I'm a scared fag that will never come out and lash out at them.

>>7437457
as bad as any self hating tranny, work on your transphobia, son.

Hey fuckers, what is up?
So I figure this is a good thread to ask about therapists, since I imagine the majority here has 'em. I'm looking on psychology today for therapists near the place I'm about to live at for the next five months, and I dunno: how do you guys pick your therapists? It looks like I don't have much of a choice for now, since it's a relatively small town, but once I'm back from there I assume I'm going to want to keep up therapy and there are tons of therapists. Do I just pick the cutest one because that is currently my criteria. They all seem to say the same thing in their bios about being caring and compassionate, etc, etc, so as long as they take my insurance and list that they cover the issues I want to talk about, I don't know if there's any other way to distinguish between these people.

It feels really important to me to get the "right" one, though, because like this is a person I'm going to have to tell shit that I don't tell people.
I mean, honestly, the likelihood that I will have to explain trap hentai to this person is HIGH because in my retard-life it is IMPORTANT and we're going to be talking about sexuality so I gotta get the right one.
I am really just thinking outloud here; I don't know what to do so any advice from people more experience in this realm is appreciated.

>>7437881
As someone who has been in therapy for over a year, my advice is to not look too hard. Give the person a call, ask about their experience with trans people, how many trans people they've seen, etc. and schedule the appointment if you think they'll be able to help. After 2 to 5 appointments you'll know if they're a good match for you.

Also it might be worth searching for a therapist who is LGBT themselves.

>>7438004
I guess that makes sense. I'll try to just go for it, though it's really worrying the information I'm going to have to impart to a stranger. I've never even told anyone in real life that my gender identity isn't completely clear to me. Though I've been having dreams lately where I have, for some reason.

In any case I guess I should get on it soon; I don't know how much time beforehand they need before making appointments. The thing that's kept me from doing this for a long time has just not wanting to tell my parents I'm going into therapy. I mean not even mentioning anything about gender and shit.

By the by, does anyone here have any experience submitting grad apps? They typically have a bit where you can talk about or at least check some boxes about "diversity" and from what I've seen being diverse at least in the typical ways (female, black, etc) is the most effective way to get accepted, but I'm not sure it works like that for trans and I don't want to "out" myself to a bunch of random people looking at my apps when I don't even know myself and have never talked to anyone professionally about it.

>tempted to just embrace being a guy, cut my hair short, stop giving a fuck about not being feminine enough
>know it'll just end poorly
I want out

>>7435688
>>7435803
This is so nice, thank y'all for making me smile

Do you think cross-gender people will be the future?

I've read that Spironolactone, for example, stops male-pattern baldness, but it's what transitioning girls use to develop breasts. How would you feel if guys who identify as guys utilized a combination of these drugs in varying dosages to be healthier and prolong their life and just accepting the consequences like the aforementioned breast growth if it means getting to live to be 150?

>>7439909
>Spironolactone
>transitioning girls
maybe transitioning idiots

>>7439922
:(

Blame my endo >_<

>>7439892
i'll have you know i handed the meds to her today
hope it goes well for her

>>7439941
Daaw, good on you anon. You probably made them very happy

>>7435688
>I have waited for 2 years
Why? Or is the trans clinic just so full like here in Finland?

has anyone changed their name/gender legally?

I just got something in the mail, I think its the court order, and I'm not sure what to do next.

And how do I get certified copies of the court order?

I didn't go to my hearing, so i'm lost as fuck

>>7440509
You can call the small claims office to ask questions.

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okay, so I'm a pre transition transgirl in her senior year of high school, trying to figure out how to finance transitioning and paying for college. I'm in the US, and I'm currently wondering if the Air Force would be a reasonable option. are there any gals here who have experience with the AF? I talked for a couple minutes with a friend of a friend who says they're kind of improving with the trans rights situation, but the recent election has me a little worried about how things might pan out if I take the air force as an option.

>>7440689
for more info, I'm currently out to my parents, and they're somewhat accepting. also, I basically have the OK from my therapist to see an endo in Gainesville, FL (about an hour's drive south of me)

I'm kinda lost on where to go with my life, and whether I should try and get a job during my last semester.

>>7440689
Currently trying to transition in the AF. Its a pain in the ass since no one knows how to do it yet. I'm still waiting to set up an appointment with an endo.

>>7440689
Google DoD Instruction 1300.28

>>7440509
You would contact the clerk of the court to get certified copies.

If that is the signed order, you use it to go around to all the entities (bank, DMV, Social Security office, etc) and have them change your name in their records. Some may want to keep it (this is why you'll need several copies), others just want to see and and then give it back.

>>7372798
What exercise routines make the body look more feminine? I tried asking elsewhere but I just kept getting called a freak.

>>7441102
Try >>7435497

I have a question! If I'm not completely suicidal and want to transition will doctors take me seriously enough to prescribe hrt? Also what is a hon?

>>7441586
If you regret transitioning or kill yourself people will point fingers at the doctor. So no, threatening them with suicide is not a good option. However if you're already selfmedding, doctors may prescribe you something for a short while.

22 year old possible mtf here
So, despite not having too many dysphoric feelings for the majority of my time in college, they came back early this year. Since then it's flared up on and off but at it's worst I've decided I have to start seeing a therapist and possibly get on HRT before I turn 24. But, I've been living on my own for the first time and since I'm a pretty big introvert haven't gone out much to socialize this led me to wonder if it's only getting so bad because I haven't had much of a chance lately to interact with other guys and play the male role. However, when it came back at first I was living in a house with a number of other guys, most of whom I would consider friends, or at least was friendly with, and two of whom were the only guys I've ever felt like I could act almost totally myself around. But then I came back home for break, went to work, and while hanging around and talking with the other guys I think, "I like this. Being a guy is alright." and the dysphoric feelings really aren't that strong. What do you guys think? Do you think it's simply me needing more male socialization or that it's just that a lull between waves of dysphoria?

>>7372798
Seems like indoctrination.

"Straight" man reporting.

Here to mercilessly judge images for honest feedback.

>>7442563
You're looking for >>7329729

>>7422054
Jesus

How can you be dysphoric while caring about your body so little?

>>7439819
Do your hair like you like
Cover up your tits
Use a voice that doesn't make you feel dysphoric
Stay on HRT anyway and get whatever procedures you can ever afford done eventually.
Just fuck it all and try not to worry about it.

It's what I'm going to do, I think. I've given up trying. My voice passes perfectly over the phone, but that's the best I've got. I'm broken from the disappointment of even the people who I am close to keep getting it wrong, and overhearing myself being referred to as "that guy with the light airy voice" by people I've interacted with at work. It's just not worth the heartbreaking disappointment anymore.

t. MtF14mo HRT

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>>7441909
For me generally if I'm with people I care about who accept me I don't feel as dysphoric but I get what you mean, there are times when I think I could be okay with being a guy but usually that just end in tears... Spend more time with your guy friends, if it's only been a one off thing I wouldn't use it as a proof.

I just want to say, look at your hairstyle.

I want to remind you that the "if you don't pass with any hairstyle then you can't pass" meme is literally just that, a dumb meme.

Try everything. Especially if your hair isn't straight, try ironing it and if you like it make it permanent.

I used to think I was hopeless and now I pass most of the time.

>>7443126
What ended up working for you?

>>7441586
being on suicide or come out level is not a requirement to being trans lol.

Do the occasional sudden intense dysphoria waves that leave you a crying mess ever end? Once you pass? One you're stealth, post-everything, with a loving partner/ Or do they persist forever?

>>7445560
they don't end, but they aren't as frequent
i don't have a loving partner or post bottom surgery but they are much less frequent anyway
i'd imagine you'd never get rid of them

Why do my boobs suddenly hurt 3 years into hrt again?

I've heard two conflicting maxims;
>You should transition if you would do so knowing you would pass.
based on the idea that if you want to transition you should, and
>You should not transition if you would only do so if you could pass.
based on the idea that here in the real world you can't always have what you want and there is such a thing as wasting effort on false hope.

What do you folks think?

>>7445799
Idk but I am currently experiencing similar problems with my boobs

>>7445965
transitioning =/= receiving treatment for dysphoria

so for me I will "transition" socially if I can pass, but I am still "transitioning" in that I've taking HRT so I can find some kind of peace within regardless of passability. Maybe I'll never be a woman, but at least I'll never be a man.

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>>7403289

>tfw 19''

I want to think I measured wrong but most likely didn't. This is a huge drawback. I looked it up and I've found girls with broad shoulders I think if you have a cute face and a good ass you can compensate but still... pic related this girl is probably 21''

How are you supposed to measure your shoulders properly in a straightline? Halp I don't wanna be stuck with 19 inch shoulders. I've thought about that surgery where they break both clavicles to shorten them since I have a large range of motion already and could lose and inch or two that way.

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>>7446418
This model has 19" shoulders with a 31" waist but looks proportionately fine. She's relatively tall, too.

It's hard, but wide shoulders aren't the end of the world. Learn to dress for your shape like other women do.

>>7445799
might be growth

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>>7446491

>>7446987
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>7445560
Depends on what exactly causes them and how your transition interacts with that. Feeling bad about never having a childhood as a girl or being able to be pregnant and things like that will always persist, though likely it'll get better as you improve in general even if those problems aren't specifically improved.

>>7445965
You should transition if it would help you. For many people, passing is what transition is for, because transition is a treatment to their problems and if they don't pass their problems aren't actually going to be fixed; that makes sense, and doesn't invalidate them.

However, there are still benefits to transitioning even without passing: you'll look better if not good enough, you won't get any worse, your mental state will be affected by the different hormone balance, and you'll know you at least tried.

It's not giving yourself false hope to try your best in a bad situation. Least of all in a situation like being trans where you're probably just going to kill yourself if you don't pass anyway.

>can't relate to myself as a male
>can only see myself living life/being happy/doing anything as female
>can't see myself in a relationship as a male, only as a female
>am extremely depressed because I'm not a female so I'm basically not a person since I can't do anything or be alive as a male

I'm a tranny right
i don't want to be like this

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>>7446987
>tfw deltoid width 47 cm
>tfw hips width only 41 cm
It's like I was meant to be an alpha male.

I bet I would look like a bodyguard next to you.

>>7410098
>>captcha: stop columbine
top kek

>>7422164
shut up repressed tranny

>>7448740
Those reasons are enough for me desu

I'm taking my spouse to my gender therapist with me this week because I want to be honest with her about how I feel. I think she will leave me immediately afterwards because to my knowledge she is not bi or anything. How do I not have a panic attack in the mean time?

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BEHOLD SHOULDERLETS. I AM HONCULES, HEQUEEN OF THE SHEDUDES.
Really though please help me kill myself, I don't know what to do. Just... ech. I couldn't even pass in a burqa with my hands cut off.

>>7449983
>that hair
>those clothes

Nigga, are you even trying? You're not a pretty princess ballerina, but come on. If you're not comfortable presenting in full femme, you could at least be a feminine man.

>>7450039
I'm not trying at all, there's really no point. I'm just letting my hair grow out because thinking about cutting it makes me want to die. I've had these clothes since I was 16; I don't ever feel like buying guy clothes and I obviously can't buy girl clothes.

>>7450066
There's no point? But isn't the point to look less masculine? It's not like you're ever going to be a natal female. You have to work with what you have to the best of your ability. Right now you look 100% like a dude, and I'm not talking about your body/bone structure. The least you can do is attempt to look less like a man.

>>7450148
Well of course I look like a dude, I'm a dude. I could look like less of a dude but that would just make people think I'm weird. I'd rather look like a normal dude than a weird wispy gay dude. Not a dude at all would be great but... not happening.

>>7450304
What if you were alone on an island? Would you be comfortable wearing female clothing only then? Why are you trying to appease people's expectations of you at the cost of your own happiness? So what if people think you're a weird, wispy gay dude?

>>7450382
I'm not alone on an island. I'm sharing my island with millions of people. Their opinion of me matters because it will affect how they treat me. HRT is something I can keep almost entirely to myself unless my tits balloon out, anything more makes me stand out. I want to do something, I really do, but I think I'd have a hard time respecting myself if nobody else did.

>>7450436
i think you're weird for letting other people dictate your happiness
if you don't want to transition because you think you won't pass, i don't really think you're trans to begin with, and if you are you will transition later in life when your chances of passing are even slimmer

>>7450436
You can't expect everyone's acceptance even as the "dude" you're presenting now. There are people who can love and respect you regardless of how you look, and those people are the ones who should truly matter to you. There's no perfect solution, but you can find happiness in transitioning even if you don't pass as a biological female.

>>7450526
What do you mean by transition? I'm already on HRT. I quit for a few months because of how hopeless it was but ended up noticibly suicidal so I'm back on it now thanks to a friend and my therapist. If you mean social transition: I can never present as female without passing, and I can never pass. I wholeheartedly refuse to become a laughing stock. That sure as hell won't make me happy. My chances of passing aren't slim, they don't exist. They never really did. I was not estrogenized in the womb or whatever the going trans theory is but I still have the mental part.

>>7450591
I don't want everyone's acceptance, I don't need them to accept me. I refuse to allow them to look down on me though. This is the only thing in my life that has ever left me hopeless and helpless but it will not get the better of me. There are people who care about me but I still value my image beyond the scope of my circle of friends and family. Not sure what you mean by transitioning either, but see above.

I feel like the more I say the crazier and stupider and vainer I sound but I just can't help myself, in every sense of the phrase. I don't know what help I want from anyone - I can't even figure that out myself.

>>7450728
Sounds like you let other people decide how you feel about yourself. Nobody will respect you if you don't respect yourself first.
You're also not as bad off as you think you are, no hugbox. The hands and shoulders aren't good but you seem pretty petite overall so maybe you won't stick out terribly much. Don't stop HRT again.

What happens when I go of my meds for a long time?
It's been a week.
I feel dead.

>>7451144
>tfw your shipment is late and you have exactly one day's of pills left
Fuuuuuuuuuuuck. I need to start keeping a reserve stash

How late is too late to start HRT to pass as a MtF?

>>7451509
It depends on what your body and face already is like

Should I just bite the bullet and order HRT?


I really think it's my only option at this point and I don't have high hopes for it doesn't anything.

>>7452110
It's going to do something even if it's not much, it's worth trying, and there are no viable alternatives if you're dysphoric. So yes, you should order it.

Ok so I'm ordering my HRT, first time ever. I;m ordering 100 tabs of cypro 50 mg, 84 tabs of Estradiol 2mg, and 30 tabs of finasteride 5mg

I know I can split the finasteride in half and take it every other day. I have some hair thinning so I hope that will help.

I know I'm supposed to take 2mg of the E every day at first. then increase.

The only thing I'm unsure about is the Cypro. Do I take the whole 50mg tab? do I cut it in half, or even take two? I can't seem to find a definitive answer on dosage.

>>7453369
50mg is a pretty common dosage, though you can take less, and as your testicles are shut down over time you can reduce the dosage. It has a long enough half-life that there's no reason not to just take all your dose at once, no splitting.

>>7453369
25mg cypro is more than enough for most people, but if you want to be sure you can do 50mg for 3-4 months first

>>7453461
>>7453474
I'm happy just to take one 50mg pill a day, but I've read a couple times already on different HRT programs that a normal dose is like 100-150, which seems absurd to me

>>7453573
those are turbohons who think taking 6 times the normals dosage will make them more feminine
protip: it wont

>>7453573
That's for prostate cancer patients who need, like, zero testosterone so it doesn't stimulate the growth of their tumor.

50mg should be enough to put your testosterone well into the female range, and your androgen receptors will be blocked on top of that so your "effective" testosterone level will be considerably lower. Get a blood test if you want to be absolutely sure (which you should be doing anyway, if possible).

I am going to start by saying I am ESL and that I do not know a lot of trans terms well. I am a biological male 19 years old.
I am moving to America soon and may not want to do therapy once there so I would like to be sure as possible if I am trans or not before I come. I have strong body image issues and while they may not be dysphoria they are all masculine features I have issues with. Primarily my large shoulders and my genitalia. The only real reason against my being trans is that while I want to be physicaly female I do not want to be personalitly feminine. I would greatly like to remove my masculine body features but keep some features of my masculine personality. Somewhat like the butch or dike lesbians. I am not a lesbian though I am strongly neutral bisexual. All feedback is appreciated I hope I expressed myself clearly. Thank you.

i'm 20 and i think i might be going bald, or at least will lose more hair. if i take something like finasteride or dutasteride alongside HRT, will i get any regrowth? my harline has almost reached the center of the top of my skull :/

>>7456370
You should take it anyway even if you can't expect any regrowth.

>>7456381
well, is there anything i can do short of wearing a wig forever or killing myself?
i can shoot myself easier than i can get a wig

>>7456235
Disliking your genitalia is one of the biggest indicators of being trans. The other body image issues you experience may be rooted in a problem unrelated to gender dysphoria, and a therapist can really help figure that part out.

>>7456392

you will just get reincarnated.
the easy option is never the best option.

I am recovering from srs.
It still feels like I have a penis underneath the bandage. My scrotum hurts and it feels like someone washed my penis head with soap.

>>7456588
ftm?

>>7456472
:/ how useful

>>7456605
Mtf. Am I not trutrans if I feel a penis?

>>7456588

What is phantom limb syndrome?
Should go away once you actually see that its gone.
The brain is funny that way.

>>7456615
what... did you just come out of surgery? give it some time before you start worrying

>>7456631
I am just baiting

>>7456628
That's for people who lose their limbs, not rearrange them.

>>7456235
So what you're saying is you want to be a butch female? That's perfectly normal, and doesn't suggest you're not trans at all.

The treatments for transsexualism, hormone replacement therapy and sexual reassignment surgery, are to make your body more comfortable to you, and to make you look more like the sex you want to be so other people will perceive you that way (which also makes you more comfortable).

The point isn't to see whether you're "actually trans", but whether the treatment will help you (though they are in many ways the same thing; it's semantics). If you'd be happier taking HRT or getting SRS then you should do so. How you act has little-to-no bearing on whether you would be happier with them.

There are many females who act masculine and are happy and comfortable being female. There are no males who hate much of the masculine elements of their body who wouldn't be happier being female.

>>7456392
HRT, and duasteride/finasteride, like you said.

You might get regrowth; some people have, but I'm not sure how consistent it is. If it's that bad then I doubt it will grow back completely, so you should be looking into surgical options. HRTgen will be better informed.

>>7456658
>That's for people who lose their limbs, not rearrange them.
It's basically the same thing. Your brain expects the limb to still be the way it's been forever, and it's suddenly dramatically changed. Whether it's been extensively rearranged (as in SRS) or removed entirely the difference in nerve placement is large.

>>7456588
Probably it will go away or at least heavily reduce over time. I recall hearing about 30% of SRS recipients experience this, but I don't have the source.

>>7457561
>I recall hearing about 30% of SRS recipients experience this
To clarify, by "this" I meant the phantom limb syndrome, not the alleviation of it.

>>7384947
>>>7384915
>Technically I could go to the trans club but it's mostly used as a way to petition the college to be more degenerate (more pronouns, more bathrooms, etc.). As far as I can tell they don't really do much else. Also I'm afraid they might find out that I'm DIYing and lecture me about how unsafe it is and ugh. It's just a shitty situation.
Wow, I thought nobody could be more retarded than strasserite fags, well done

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