Transwoman General @ /mtfg/

shakira why didn't you like san junipero wtf

>>7312497
Contrarianism

>>7312500
I won't but thanks for asking.

>>7312497
I did actually like it, I was merely pointing out why /mtfg/ is obsessed with it.

Who killed themself in teh last thread?

>tfw will probably have an extremely hard time passing because im old
at least i have wide hips. whatever.

Are there any good cyber monday deals this year (specifaclly for clothes or makeup)

>>7312509
How old are you?
Still trying to procure those pills from my mum.

>>7312508
it made me cry uwu

Hi

>>7312512
No.

>>7312509
I think youll be fine age-wise lol

>>7312506
me too thanks

>>7312508
nobody you'd recognize, i'm pretty sure

>>7312517
It made me feel warm and fuzzy at first then cold inside

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>>7312516
26, lol

>>7312524
Sounded like Valq to me:/
>>7312526
Thanks for making me feel old, I'm 24.

I'm going to start wearing a shirt that says "will suck dick for a PCI Express power cable" because jesus fucking christ Maplin is taking ages to deliver mine and unpowered graphics card means no videogames to distract myself from how lonely I am.

>>7312532
I'm sorry, I'm just depressed today and being depressed means I fall for /mtfg/'s memes about how if you don't transition before age 12 you're screwed forever.

>>7312524
is there a counter on how many suicides there have been on /mtfg/?

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>>7312533
>Maplin

>>7312525
shakira ily

>>7312537
>Im just depressed today

Join the club desu

is bean boy retarded or something

>>7312542
Yeah I don't know anything about computer stores in this country, do you have some recommendations for me, Shakira.

Gf is gone
She shot her self in the abdomen

I'm sorry everyone

>>7312550
Troll?

>>7312544
Thanks
>>7312548
Probably.
>>7312549
Just use novatech.com

Is it possible to get happy without being able to pass?

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>>7312553

>>7312551
Not a troll
I was told she posted a suicide note here this morning

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>>7312557

>>7312557
>tfw no buff aggressive alt-right bf whose political inconsistencies allow me to be his gf

>>7312556
repress and detransition
get married and buy a house
have kids and raise a happy family

>>7312556
Depends on how much dysphoria you get from being boymode in public
I'm pretty much fine with it as long as I can be on HRT

uhhhhhhhmmmmmm

>>7312556
yes it is, don't listen to people on mtfg

what that anon said is literally impossible because you need mental stability to do that :P

>>7312577
are you actually retarded though

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>>7312512
>Are there any good cyber monday deals this year
The few good deals are generally gated or bullshit.

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>>7312582
>a-anoooooooo
ftfy

>>7312575
detransitioning is not an option.

>>7312578
i don't want to be seen as a man, so i stay at home all the time.

>>7312582
i hope this is true and i will be able to accept it some time, but ti's hard to believe.

>>7312550
>>7312559
I'm so sorry. We hadn't talked in a while but she was a wonderful person.

Why do I have three trips thirsting on me?

>>7312586
dunno bout that but he's clearly blind

>>7312575
>detrans
>happy

>>7312597
elann hugg

>>7312570
>swastika to the wrong side

>>7312575
come out at 40+ because its either that or suicide

>>7312587
Oh laaaaaaaame :(

>>7312604
I'm already planning mine
I am overcome with despair

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What do you do if you upset someone you like and you don't know how to fix it?

>>7312533
Trans girls use AGP cards, not PCIe.

>>7312590
i-idgi

unless you're playing off of awoo then I totally do

>>7312591
it is hard to believe. it requires a good support network of friends and slowly deprogramming society's harmful ideas out of your head (totally different from pretending you pass, whatever mtfg might say)

>>7312550
I don't know you or who your girlfriend was, but i'm really sorry about your loss. I know that these words don't change anything, but still

>tfw every time I see a cis woman I feel delusional
I'm so clearly not a woman.

>>7312593
which trips

>>7312593
sounds unlikely, who else

shakira is my waifu desu

>>7312554
Isn't Novatech called NeoNET these days?

>>7312614
>i-idgi
ano and eto are weaboo-speak for "uhm"

>>7312605
I'm being self-deprecating :P

>>7312612
that's a pretty vague situation with a lot of potential answers

Off to Chicago to give Z what he deserves

>>>/pol/100602914

You know they are right

>>7312616
Seeing cis women my age usually makes me feel pretty good about my self. Girls, though, fucking teenagers make me feel ancient.

>>7312590
>>7312630
ohhhh, sorry, I'm a poser

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I get it in til the sunriiiise...im doing 90 inna 65

>>7312632
I shared something about myself that upset this person greatly. I don't think they will be my friend any longer knowing this.

>>7312618
I really don't.
>>7312617
Oryx, Beanboy and Lauren and some anon as well
>>7312628
No
>>7312634
See you on FBI Files
>>7312637
Do I make you feel ancient?

>>7312640
It's okay, you are a cute girl who deserves the love of good people!

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How to stop the feeling of being a disgusting abnormality?

>>7312649
im. not thirsting after you i just kind of like you
like i kind of like most of mtfg desu

>>7312649
>FBI
>implying I would run
Don't need to
Will take my own life

>>7312616
Same
Except also with grown men about being a man, especially after HRT
Non-binary life I guess

>>7312649
>No
Oh. Did they go back to being called Fuchi or something?

And I haven't seen how you look, so, no, you don't really make me feel past expiration date.

>>7312655
That's cute.
>>7312656
Do a shootout.
>>7312660
But I'm like 15 years younger than you.

>>7312645
oh, fun

not sure that's really the kind of situation you can fix

would that be the aspect of yourself we discussed previously?

>>7312651
thank you, I wish I believed either of those things .-.

>>7312661
wow beanboy I thought what we had was special

I thought u were committed

>>7312663
No point

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first one to respond to me gets to feel special for being first

>>7312663
uwu

>>7312668
uwu

>>7312664
Please quid for the love of God, stop
Saying I have bdd

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>>7312664
yeah

>>7312664
>thank you, I wish I believed either of those things .-.
You're a cute girl so I'll keep telling you you're a cute girl until you believe it <3

>>7312669
>>7312671
i wish i could afford a 4chan pass

>>7312665
Don't you want to make a name for yourself? bring attention to your cause? Go out blazing, makes good TV.
>>7312669
I'll Skype you one day.

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>>7312671

>>7312672
but you do, lol

people being dicks on an image board doesn't change that, you will obviously not pass as 100% cis if you're presenting female in an androgynous thread it's pretty obvious you're trans then lmao, then people will fuck with you for shits and giggles, and that's about it

You are a sad case of mental illness that is now being accepted as normalcy by our degenerate society.

They should be put into therapy and given drugs to bring them into their proper sex, not be mutilated into freaks.

If you were born a man, you will never become a woman. You can chop off your dick, and get fake tits, but you will still never be a woman.

The same applies doubly for women trying to become men. It's even more painful to watch them try, because a doctor can function a decent vagina but a fake cock is horseshit.

Stop this madness.

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>>7312681

>>7312681
Lol I swear you people are more obsessed with the surgery than most of us

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>>7312681
>They should be put into therapy and given drugs to bring them into their proper sex
gotcha fami

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>>7312681

>>7312681
Hello /pol/ welcome to our nice thread. Have fun bullying us for a while until you get bored.

>>7312686
I wish they'd talk more about hormones, I think this would have probably made transition more appealing to me earlier.

>>7312681
>tfw mentally ill freak
Conversion therapy doesn't work, I have no choice but to chop my dick off and get fake tits.

>>7312681
the vast majority of us don't get fake tits or genital surgery :P

y-you know how hrt works, right? right?

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>>7312680
I posted this >>7312514 in a how to improve thread and these for the top 3 responses.
The middle one pointing out how my jaw, chin and deepest eyes are masculine and that even if the were fixed, hrt could never give me a natural female look

>>7312681
Change ur definition of what it means to be a man/woman uwu

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>>7312681
it's OK for me to be a girl fampi

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were you bullied as a kid?
I was becuse i was a socially inept autist

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>>7312636
>caring about being real womyn when everyone treats you like one anyways

>>7312601
>>7312601
hugg

>>7312702
Same, Hannah.

>>7312702
ironically i was bullied in school for having a girls name

>>7312703
I gotta leave this place Elanna
How can I beat this addiction?

>>7312691
Ikr
its always about chopped dicks and fake tits, when the majority of transgirls wont get either

>>7312707
Is this Angie?

>>7312694
The thing is i didn't knew it was possible to take hormones and become a real woman. I didn't want to be a drag queen with fake boobs and a fake vagina, that's why i repressed for so long until i found out that it is actually possible, to look like a real woman - unfortunately too late. I wish i had informed myself more when i was a kid, now it's too late for me to ever pass.

>>7312708
discovering that hormone replacement therapy actually exists was the first step on my repression slowly falling apart.

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>>7312705
>>7312704
i tried really hard to act normal
i still got teased for being a "fag"
guess it was kinda obvious huh...

>>7312673
sux

>>7312674
maybe someday I'll be a cute girl :(

>>7312676
sorry, dick move

>>7312691
yeahhhhh

>>7312696
That's literally the worst picture of you I've ever seen post-ffs. That doesn't remotely count lol

tfw no qt crossdressing gf that puts ridiculous outfits on to just be cute around me

>>7312716
Give up goddammit.

>>7312550

What kinda fucking retard shoots himself in the abdomen instead of the head

"I'm so sad that I really want to bleed to death in agony over the course of several hours"

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>>7312716
yeah if it goes that way i won't have anywhere to live

>>7312718
sounds cute desu

>>7312710
Yeah

>>7312716
Why doesn't it count?
Are you that fucking blind or just trolling me?

>>7312550
No please no
Add me on skype please
Alessiafova

>>7312721
>not seppukuing
Pleb.

>>7312721
>shoot self in head: 5%
>[critical miss]

>>7312702
same desu
Also i unironically have a stutter which didnt help

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>>7312726
Keep up the lawsuit and/or commit violence against dr. Z. Padded cells have no internet.

>>7312718
wait if shes your crossdressing girlfriend
do you mean she wears mens clothes? ;)

Why do we believe suicide stories with no proof?

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>>7312712
same

>>7312681
>You are a sad case of mental illness that is now being accepted as normalcy by our degenerate society.
I have a mental illness, and I'm treating it with the compatible hormone for my mind.

And even as a tranny, I do believe you're right; people should _not_ be convinced by fetishists that cutting your dick off is the solution. What most people realize afterwards is that it's not one part that's wrong, it's the whole thing. I do not intend to get SRS until after CRISPR or something is actually able to create a working vag from my DNA and transplant it as if it were natural, and even then, I really don't know if it's the right thing to do, because the scar will always be a reminder.

>>7312731
stuttering is cute as long as you're a girl.

>>7312732
Like I would allow myself to
Be committed

>>7312737
its not a cute stutter tho

>>7312734
because I killed myself so I don't see why others shouldn't have

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>>7312731
>tfw I started talking faster and with less hesitation after HRT

>>7312711
:( I'm sorry, anon

you should take hrt nonetheless though

>>7312718
crossdressing girls are the cutest thing

>>7312722
oh eek, didn't realize it was them

did you tell them you were trans too?

>>7312725
Being a nice person isn't being submissive :P I know how it feels for crushes to tease you

>>7312741
just say desu and baka to make it cute

>>7312715
So I did I.

Then I got violent and found that was the way to get the other kids to leave me alone.

I still remember headbutting another kid and giving a concussion.

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>>7312739
That's why you need to break the law and have the guys with white coats tranq you

>>7312744
nice

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>>7312745
no just the other thing

Guys, maybe someone should tell Z that a crazy tranny is planning to shoot up his office.

>>7312731
How is you're AIDS doing?

>>7312751
No I would just off myself

>>7312744
thats good!

>>7312749
I dont think that works outside of anime..

>>7312749
I curse a lot when I'm frustrated, but everyone finds it cute, natural and sometimes funny now that I use girlvoice all the time.

>>7312752
thaaaanks :3

>>7312735
Just kill yourself you mentally ill freak.

I don't care for your existence as a human being. Just die.

Your feelings are just made up.

>>7312756
Angie please calm down

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>>7312760
That's plan b

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I wish I was a cute office girl with a handsome sexually harassing boss.

>>7312758
what did she mean by this?

>>7312587
maybe I'm an autist
but is this not perhaps slightly insensitive?

>>7312745
Is it viable to just be a guy on hormones in public though?
I'll never pass and dont want to be a hon, but at some point I'll stop looking like a man exactly, right?

>>7312750
i whould get my butt kicked if i tried

>>7312762
i thought i'd be used to speaking in girlvoice all the time, but apparently if i don't speak for a day, my pitch goes down below 200Hz again.

>>7312765
rofl
how do you make up feelings
and why would you do that?

>>7312772
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS

>tfw eating dinner with 4 girls tonight
I just want to be alone aaa

>>7312774
>at some point I'll stop looking like a man exactly, right?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Look man, we all want to be girls, I get it. If I could flip a magic switch and become a girl, I would too. Anyone would.

But who really wants to get lost in the void between genders?

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>>7312773
>but is this not perhaps slightly insensitive?
No. This is.

>>7312550

>>7312778
Anything above 170hz is unambiguously female

>>7312786
quit being a dick to people when you've barely started transition

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>>7312778
I'm good enough at this point to freely switch back and forth depending on who I'm with; people I haven't seen in 5 years get my guyvoice, while people I'm out to and/or see monthly get my girlvoice. It's just chest resonance vs mask resonance, and now that I can visualize it, it's really easy to switch back and forth unless I'm yelling. I sound like a fag when I try to yell in girlvoice, but I can see why some girls lose their voice from shouting too much.

>>7312550
>>7312559
do you think you could at least tell us who she was so those that knew her are aware and are able to mourn her? I doubt it's fair to leave people rushing to contact their friends from here panicking over whether they'll respond.

>>7312788
i already got lost =(

>>7312788
this is how I feel desu

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>>7312790
>Anything above 170hz is unambiguously female
not really. 170-215 GHz is andro.

>>7312790
I was well above that back when I was trying to present as male...

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>>7312788
So believe me, I get it. You get to grope yourself and steal a peak in the chicks bathroom. But bro. Have you considered that it makes you look like a GIRL? What's more, men might get the wrong idea and try to date you, which is hella gay. My bro Brad did this, at first it was all fun and games, we'd grope him and laugh and it was sweet, but then we started getting attracted to him and that's FUCKED UP. Here's the kicker though, we told brad to stop doing the pills and he CRIED, brad would never cry before, he had the least emotions of us all, like a war vet, real cool guy. But it gets worse, Brad stopped taking the pills but the boobs stayed on and he had the face of a fucking chick and acted totally gay, smiling at silly shit all the time, it was gross. He was weak as fuck, couldn't squat fuck all anymore. Then recently Brad told us that he had to keep taking the pills or he'd die, doctor said that, so now he's taking the pills for life and honestly I might end fucking him some day and that's gay as fuck. That's my horror story and it's true, so please, stop taking pills before it's too late

>>7312791
Quit being delusional. HRT doesn't work.

>>7312790
No i feel like even 230Hz doesn't sound female enough. I wish i could talk in 280HZ regularly without falsetto.

>>7312792
I'm scared that if i use my guy voice it will harm my real voice. But i would like to hear the difference

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>>7312799
No it isn't

>>7312786
I mean I'll look like an obvious tran at some point, obviously, even if I start now at 25
Not many guys in their thirties will have breasts, womanly skin and body hair

>>7312811
You'll just look like either a teenager or a faggot. I became the former.

>>7312788
I've been lost since childhood, I'm just trying to go the right way for me

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>>7312806
You're not a good subject for that test given your heritage.

>>7312811
>womanly skin
I've heard this a million times and I still don't know what it's supposed to mean

can you tell someone's sex just by touching them?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCMXO9sBIcU

Today I realised that death is the path I should always had followed.

No transition. No repression.
Just freedom from it all. Little by little this feeling will eat away at me. And it will overpower my survival instincts.
I'll be free

>>7312807
If you're speaking at 230hz and don't sound like a girl, pitch is definitely not your problem

>>7312526
I started two months before 26
And you have a better starting point than I did.
You're gonna be fine

>>7312819
So maybe me and Quid are both right, HRT works, just not on black people. Oh well suicide on New Year's Day.

>>7312821
Its thinner, paler, softer and smoother
I probably could, at this point
Like from the face or neck especially
It was the first thing I noticed from HRT and it felt so good

>>7312806
Shakira are you sure you don't need injections? An American friend had HRT straight out not work for her until she switched to injections because of something with her endocrine system.

>>7312807
The issue may not be pitch. Timbre and speech patterns play a more important part in gendering voices. Nobody would say Marlene Dietrich sounded like a guy, and conversely "gay voice" is often gratingly high pitched yet unmistakably male.

>>7312828
yeah

>>7312827
Basic you looked p andro even pre hrt ngl

>>7312830
I'm trying to switch to injections, they're hard to find though.

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It's OK to be trans and/or gay girls

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>>7312809
you're forgetting about overtones.
guys at 150 GHz still sound like guys, and girls at 150 GHz still sound like girls because their vocal cords resonate naturally at different frequencies, even when they aren't pulled tight, and because they have different acoustics in the body (females have fewer ribs, which causes it to resonate in the chest less).

>>7312843
im both is that ok

>>7312843
It's not. It's really not.

>>7312824
that's the first step, but I think you're still not looking at it broadly enough
when death comes it will be eternal, but also self-encapsulated in the same way as your experience of life
they are two equally valid and absolute states, two sides of the same coin, and there's good and bad things about both of them
when you do die, any pain and suffering you may have felt before will not only stop, but it'll be as if it never happened
so it doesn't even matter how much or how little you suffer while you are alive
when you're dead, you're dead, when you're alive, you're alive, so for now just make the most of living and revel in the good and the bad of it. you'll have plenty of time to be dead. now is your time to live. for now. imo.

>tfw people immediately clock you as a spanish speaker because of your accent
I was asking for directions to find the leadenhall skyscraper a while ago and this Spanish man immediately knew to speak Spanish to me.

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Were you right, was I wrong
Were you weak, was I strong, yeah
Both of us broken
Caught in a moment
We lived and we loved
And we hurt and we jumped, yeah
But the planets all aligned
When you looked into my eyes
And just like that
The chemicals react

>>7312846
Is it ok to be on hormones and live as a guy in public but be a girl at home with bf?
I dont see how I'm hurting anyone exactly or what I should do differently

>>7312806
I've had testosterone at near male levels for the vast majority of my transition, hence my shitty results.

Again, you've barely started.

Quit it.

>>7312851
>you will never pass as a british person so everybody will always know you're a sudaca
feels bad man

Ok, try this trick. I have caused more than dozen trannies to kill themselves, and I will continue to use it.

It is 100% effective.

The purposes of transition is to become either male or female. You were born one gender, and you want to transition into another.

Although these retards manage to fool someone by altering their appearance, either by makeup or mutilation, they fall flat on the most important aspect of successful transition.

They can't produce offspring!

A male role is to impregnate, the female role is to give birth.

Transsexuals can't do this.

This is where my trick takes place.

Their inability to fully perform the roles of their new gender makes them a defect.

If you're a defect, you are more likely to end yourself. Or you will be naturally ended.

Somebody will say that life is not about making babies (wrong, but let's say it's right). This still doesn't change the fact that 100% of transitioned creatures can't impregnate or give birth.

You want to tell me that all transgender don't want to make babies?

So, this is a pressing thought. by each passing day, they realize they're not fully new gender, and this causes crippling depression, and eventually suicide.

A winner is you.

Also, if you manage to overcome this defect with technology, it doesn't change a fact that you were born with it, and for another thousand years, those poorer transgender won't be able to afford it.

Just end yourselves.

>>7312858
>implying science will not advance fast enough for many of the people here to be able to give birth in their lifetime

>>7312858
>tfw you will never subject children to your roiling incoherent psychopathologies and make them into the same traumatised messes that you yourself are
i'm okay with this.

>>7312856
quid ur cute

>>7312858
>caused more than a dozen trannies to kill themselves
>something literally everyone here knows already
Sure

>>7312865
They are mentally unstable, usually after fucking one of them (about 2-3 times a year, not many here but they seem to grew in number especially among younger bi population) i then beat the shit out of it; they seem to enjoy that despite crying and screaming. Trannies are wierd.

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>>7312845
yes that's why i said AND

>>7312846
why do you think so anon ??

>>7312835
Nah not really, I had just been growing my hair a while

>>7312858
How many babies do you have?

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>>7312809
case in point: a Viola playing a 440Hz, open A does not sound like a Violin playing a 440Hz, open A, and it's hard to mistake one for the other when you have experience in a music setting.

>>7312826
>>7312831
yeah i suppose my voice is still to monotone and i feel weird if i'm doing the "raise pitch at the end of the sentence" thing. I'm not sure what it is exactly, but something isn't right. Oh yeah and sometimes my voice even cracks a little.

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me upon coming home from uni

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>>7312844
Overtones have nothing to do with your mean speaking pitch and you shouldn't be trying to speak higher to compensate for them or else you'll just have a strained and unnatural sounding voice that still sounds like a guy.

Train your resonance, that's what's responsible for the difference in quality between male and female voices.

>>7312874
See above

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n82l3rEQSWk
>you will never repel the bastard napoleon and his army of frogs by burning down your capital city

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>>7312872
What matters is what the world thinks

>>7312883
I thought you left

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>>7312858
life sucks. i'm not evil enough to force somebody to live a horrible life.

>>7312880
Correcto. El ingles me lo auto-enseñe.

>>7312851
Well obviously, I doubt you sound anything like me.
>>7312856
My T is below female levels and I still don't pass

>>7312856
Remove balls when

>>7312885
I'm angie

>>7312879
>tfw your country stopped the french hitler back in the 19th century
>tfw your country stopped the german napoleon back in the 20th century

you're welcome, entire world

How can I look OK in reflections but absolutely gross in pictures?

>>7312856
How much cypro did you take? Are 50mg maybe not enough? I'm worried because i can't do any blood tests, but i don't want to kill my liver either.

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>>7312883
what matters most in life is what makes YOU happy anon. mb you will get to 60 years old and living for other people but sooner or later you will realize "well i never managed to do anything i actually wanted to do with my life, but at least i didn't upset the random strangers i came across or the people who i considered my friends even tho they never really knew the real you"

>>7312894
idk same thing happens to me tho

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>>7312894

>>7312858
I do find it odd that for 99.1% of all trannies, all they care about is appearance.
They could be fixing monster trucks for a living, eating red meat and beer all day every day, and not give a shit if that's not considered "girly".
But if someone calls them sir instead of miss, then they'll have a fucking breakdown.

Every time I try to tell my mom that I'm trans I just end up keeping it to myself. I feel like I'm disappointing her :(

>>7312844
>females have fewer ribs
Wut?

>>7312858
Rich words from someone who's obviously going to die a virgin.

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>>7312877
that difference in quality is the overtones. The "resonance" is the overtones. At the same frequencies, males will normally sound more growly than females due to the acoustics in their body, so they have to compensate for it to actually pass on voice alone.
Source: me. My girlvoice is well above 200 Hz, and I still get clocked male online all the time. This is because my guyvoice is around 80 Hz, and my body naturally resonates at a lower frequency, creating deeper undertones.

>circumcised because of phimosis
>had operation on my balls as a teenager because of testicular torsion
>will eventually transform entire genitalia into imitation vagina

my dick can't catch a break

>>7312900
>he hasn't read the bible

>>7312896
Hi kit

unsee
.cc/razenipo/

>>7312900
ever heard of a "spare rib"?

>>7312900
they store babies in their gut
they need the extra room

>>7312901
>tfw going to die a virgin
Sometimes I wonder if I should even bother getting SRS.

>>7312908
>>7312908

>>7312908
madddyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy wher have you been i wanted to talk to you for so long UGH. i was away when you left i missss youuuu


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>7312908
who are you and why are you so pretty?

>>7312907
The rib gets taken from Adam in the bible, not the other way around.

>>7312914
>Sometimes I wonder if I should even bother getting SRS.
It's probably a good idea. As long as you have a vagina and aren't repulsive, there will always be men that will want to enter you.

>>7312896
Nah fuck that. Suicide is better

AAAAAAH IM DYEING MY HAIR IN LIKE 30 MINUTES IM SO SCARED

>>7312922
What color?

>>7312922
Color?

>>7312922
What color are you dyeing it?

>>7312922
quick! shave it off!

>>7312843
>It's OK to be trans or(OR) gay girls
FTFY

>>7312914
It's not about sex. It really helps with dysphoria. I haven't "used" it yet, and maybe never will. One might say that's like buying a Bugatti and letting it gather dust in the garage. But it feels right. Having a body that doesn't feel quite as jarring anymore was entirely worth it.

>>7312908
Hey bb I miss you

>>7312914
use it as an excuse for your virginity, vagina envy
you can't miss sex w/ a penis if you've never had it also

>>7312929
DRINK

>mum sends me PDFs on how dangerous and scary HRT is and how self-medding is evil over FB
I think she's guessed I'm self-medding lol, fucking great
my dad's been slowly pulling her over to his side and now she keeps asking stuff like "are you sure that you're sure though, what if you regret it" when initially she was mostly okay with it

still don't have the heart to tell her I've attempted suicide

wtf i thought men and women really did have a different amount of ribs
im so dumb

>>7312917
you liberal types think you're so clever...

>>7312914
I've had sex with both genders.
It's literally nothing.

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>>7312902
Again, overtones have absolutely nothing to do with your vocal chords, your vocal chords have only a handful of vibrational modes, and these are effectively a clean sound at a given pitch

You're using a viola and a violin as your example, but you're ignoring the fact that a string is a string. A string always vibrates the same way and a viola and violin string will sound nearly identical if you attach them to two nails on a wall. The difference between the two comes from the difference in shape of the body of the instrument. The shape of the path between your larynx and mouth, and to an extent thickness of vocal chords is what makes your voice clockable, it has absolutely nothing to do with pitch. Vocal training has so little to do with the pitch, that's the easy part, the hard part is learning to shape the sound.

how do you learn female mannerisms without coming off as a retard when you're probably autistic

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i just got the biggest order of fries and tendies along with the tastiest bacon cheeseburger ever and i'm in heaven rn

Transexuals are an abomination to God.

>>7312937
This. Masturbation is better.

>>7312942
move 50 miles away and start again

>>7312931
I'm just not interested, no sex drive at all. Drinking won't change that, been there, done that and while the cuddling and kisses are ok, I just won't go further. Yes, I'm a horrible tease.

>>7312922
you can do it beep !!!! you are going to look so pretty !!

>>7312944
Who cares? There are no gods except in the diseased minds of religious madmen.

i think im gonna go plat blonde.. i think its pretty..i hope it is on me

>>7312946
i basically don't know people here. i have a blank slate.

>>7312949
if there's no god, then who invented cinnamon rolls

échec et mat, CFH

>>7312944
Then what does that make fat people?

>>7312947
you should try kink
I barely have any sex drive because cypro + depression + SSRIs but kink feels amazing even without it being sexual

>>7312942
iktf
>tfw you know autistic girls and they still pass because despite male body language they're tiny and petite with small round skulls and RIP me

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>>7312858
>Tfw self taught alt-right "philosopher"
>Mixes pseudosience with ideology and illogical thinking
>Mfw deplorable morons feel empowered to spread their idiocy.
Deplorable desu

>>7312959
Kinky stuff just feels ridiculous and contrived to me. I'd have a hard time not laughing through it

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>>7312942
Hang out with cis girls and let your mirror neurons do the legwork

>>>/pol/100617084
>>>/pol/100617195


Inject test and you would be cured. FACT

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>>7312939
ok, yes, I was wrong about the vocal chords, but the fact is that, when you have a larger chest cavity due to being taller or just having a bigger chest, what you say will resonate at a lower frequency just by nature of how speaking works, and you can't just hover at 150 Hz and think your voice is good enough to convince someone you're a girl over the phone.

To use another example: a cello at 440 Hz will sound different from a violin or a viola at 440 Hz because of the resonance, even when played with the right quality.

>>7312858

this is the dumbest post i've seen here in weeks lmao

>tfw no food in apartment
>tfw too much studying and work to do until thursday to go to grocery
guess I'm stuck with taco bell then
>>7312858
shouldn't you be in middle school right now
>>7312922
good luck, hope it looks pretty!
>>7312967
I had high test levels before starting hrt lol

>>7312967
not true, a couple of trips here have been through that and it didnt help

>>7312908
Tfw u miss a rare Maddie
;~;

are you fuuucccking kidding me what the literal fuck is going on??

my stylist just canceled 20 minutes before my appointment bc her stupid daughter got hurt

>>7312967
How long until you're on estrogen and have a trip?

>>7312976
ah yes, there's that famous tranny empathy i've heard so much about

>>7312976
oh no :(

im furious this is so ridiculous ive been talking to her for like 2 fucking months about this????????????????

>>7312967
Doesn't work and it's sadly well-documented. Every kind of "conversion therapy" ever tried did nothing but break people, often to the point of no return.

>>7312976

wow what a fucking bitch

They are men. Who think they are women. I realize you try to be nice, but god damn, we can't give our womanhood away to any and all takers.

THAT is part of undermining women, devaluing us until we are ONLY our sexuality. NOT our sex, not mothers, not wives, not sisters, not our biology.

These are men. Even with their dicks cut off they are JUST MEN WITH THEIR DICKS CUT OFF who dress like women.

Even their bodies know. If they would go off the hormones, their bodies would revert to male bodies. If they stop dilating that hole, then the body tries to heal it closed, because its NOT a vagina, its a mother fucking open wound.

Its a farce. They are mentally ill. They commit suicide at 20 times the rate of normal people, EVEN AFTER THEY "TRANSITION".

Stop being NICE. YOU are a woman. BE proud of that and reject any man as an abomination who tries to fake being what you really are.

>>7312964
lol I find that more the case myself when people take it too seriously and try to get edgy about it like Tumblr doms do

it's better when you're just hanging out with people and one of your best friends suddenly wraps her hand into your hair, forces you down to your knees in front of everyone and tells you "kiss my shoes, faggot" with a hand gently holding your chin

>>7312984

who tf cares lmao

i hate all those dum transgendereds

>>7312982
I GET IT..like you have to take care of ur kid first..but wtf....why today???

>>7312976
Aha I win again

>>7312984
Why are you addressing terf psychos? There are none here. /cislesgen/ is that way...

>>7312984
(You)

>>7312984
I'm not an SJW, don't treat me like a fragile flower that can be easily smashed to pieces.

>>7312990

i bet she pushed her kid down a flight of stairs just so she could cancel on you desu
whatever, the bitch. fuck her

>>7312981
Thank you. My mom always seems to think that there would be a way to "cure" me. And i also thought that maybe one of the reasons why i'm trans is because my T levels were quite low even before i started hrt.

>>7312985
Nobody would try that with me unless they want to get hurt. Wouldn't indulge in their nonsense either way.

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>>7312980
To live is to dye

>>7312949
>Tfw the spirit of Marianne lives in CFH
<3 <3 <3

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>>7312968
You're ignoring what I'm saying
The strings arent the problem
The shape and size of the instrument is the problem. The cello does not sound different than a violin or viola because somehow their strings are special. It sounds different because it's huge.

Yes, you have a large chest cavity, so do i, but the goal is to have your vocal chords higher up in your throat for a reason. Women don't have a lot of chest resonance (they still have some), their voice resonates in the head because their larynx is higher in the throat. The goal is not to have a high pitch and leave your larynx near your chest, the goal is to have an acceptable pitch and to have a voice in your head

Also, 150hz is on the low end for women and is in the andro range. Cis women with pitch in that range do tend to complain about being misgendered on the phone.

>>7312984
Of all things to bother me about this post the only one that's really getting me is the reddit style double spacing

>>7312999
hello 911 this is transgender discrimination im telling you.. someone please come over and dye my hair :(((

>>7312990
liek OMG :0
tote's not kewl
xxx

>>7312984
Oh look girls, cnt decided to repress

>>7313008

tell them u have been hatecrimed

>>7313008
Can't you do it yourself?

>>7312888
reread second line

>>7312889
haven't been tested since I went from 200 to 300, fin, and prog, so I want to see what I have first

>>7312895
it varies, you should really try to get at least one blood test to see where you're at

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>>7312984
>Mfw
>>7313000
My mom cured me by pretending I'm either dead or nonexistent.

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i'm like the worst person lmao
altho i'm starting to think i stopped responding cause of the "haha" "lol" every sentence

>>7312976
>>7312976
omgg this is NOT OK !!!

beep was looking forward to this SO MUCH UGH this is horrible

>>7313017
I could order a salvia test online, but those probably aren't reliable, right?

>>7313022
>salvia test
lol get ready to meet the shadow people

>>7313013
>Dying your own hair
I guess you could dye your hair if you had some experience and wanted that old latina grandma orange or punkrock idgaf look

i'll be going over to visit a friend and I've recently told her i'm a tranny

she asks what pronouns I'd like her to use
i want to say feminine ones, but no one else ever did that to me except my family in some attempts to see if i liked it

i'm scared that i wont like it because i dont feel like i deserve it yet

>>7313019
>Still chasing someone after they stopped replying
Why do people do this?

>>7313025
?

>>7313022
can you get tested at a private third party lab?

its hard to focus
i just get dizzy when i do

>>7313035
hanna, it feels like you get cuter every day

>>7313005
>The shape and size of the instrument is the problem.
We agree on that at least, but what I'm saying is that, with a bigger chest cavity, you need to compensate for it in some way through either shaping or raising the pitch above the cis female average, or you'll just get called a fag when people only hear your voice. The lower end of the female range (160 Hz - 200 Hz) is actually andro if you have a larger chest cavity.

I don't know how to better explain this.

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I can't wait for the future /mtfg/

might get a blue rinse

>>7313021
Problems are what make us grow as persons. :3

>>7313033
Do those exist in europe?

>>7313037
i dont know about that

>>7313029
it's called not being inept sass, you should try it sometime

>>7312858
>wanting to spread your disguting genese everywhere
>Not adopting one of the many orphaned children
>or better: just having pets
I'm a depressed person, but not about that. The idea of giving birth and being a full on mother is exciting and its tragic i can never but its also a pretty good thing for a few reasons.

o shit boiii
i told her i wanted to be addressed in feminine pronouns
I DONT DESERVE IT YET

>>7313038
It sounds like you're trying to make your personal failing with voice training a fundamental tranny problem. The chest size is not an issue when you are not speaking from the chest. Even if it was, going up in pitch would not compensate for bad resonance.

someone on /b/ just made me cry
don't like

>>7313042
yes but i feel so bad for beep she was rly excited !!!!

>>7313031

idk lol i guess he remade his account cause we re-matched and i have no prior history of our texts. so i couldn't say if he was an asshole or weird in the bad way or anything.

>>7313067

where did the bad man touch u

Why am I suddenly getting a hard on for transwomen? It's mostly from the time lines. Most of them look better than real women

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>>7313038
Where we disagree is how one can compensate for it. What you need to realise is that raising your pitch to compensate for it is not actually compensating for it, and it's a dead end as far as vocal training goes. Going back to the cello example, it's like trying to play a high note on a cello. It's still not going to sound like a violin if you go higher.

The aim is not to talk higher. The aim is to shape the sound. I mostly say it because I see a lot of people throwing around extremely high numbers for target pitch here, sometimes they're even above the mean for cis women. It's not going to help when the fundamental problem is bad technique.

>>7313043
in some countries yeah, idk about all, Google private blood testing [your country]

>>7313062
isn't that illegal???

>>7313013
You think I can just do that?? What do I look like? A girl? ...tell me I look like a girl... tell me..hey..

>>7313071
it was a cis girl

>>7313074
>It's not going to help when the fundamental problem is bad technique.
ok, point taken.

>>7313072
It's just one of those things that's kinda hot - the idea of a man being sissified into a girl and you getting to dom them and remind them what a dumb, sissy fag they are.

It also reinforces your own masculinity.

How bad of an idea is it to take estrogen without an antiandrogen for a couple weeks.

>>7313088
just set your cash on fire sénpáí

>>7313088
pretty bad, it'll be wasted