/femgen/ - Voting Edition

Does anyone here have long hair? How do you style it? I need advice for when my hair gets long enough.

>>7021773
Shit edition, f a m.

>tfw no qt 3.14 azn bf
Life is suffering.

>>7021819
It is not, senpai.

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>>7021827
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1o1ltE9y1DS

It cut out last second, it actually ends on "face"

>>7022238
I can hear the vocaroo right now, but that anime guy you posted is very cute.

>>7022260
*can't

>tfw otter mode
Should I just stop trying to gain weight/workout and and give into being a skeleton

>>7022725
>trying to gain weight
ANON WHY

>>7022725
Become a skelly.

>>7022725
Skelly is fine bro

Don't try to gain weight on testosterone, antway

>>7023061
Because I'm "not healthy" according to my doctor

>>7023284
How much are we talking about here?

>>7021813
I just kind of let it hang I also got bangs to help no style really needed for fine hair.

>>7021773
I'm voting for dez nutts he seems to have some serious balls. I will prob not vote at all.

>>7022725
Being a skeleton was pretty great jk it sucked hormones are seriously changed my body same skelly weight have curves hips and tiny boobs it killed my twink mode. I pretty happy with my bod anyone want to see the compare and contrast?

Can anyone see the survey results?

Voting for Daddy Trump

>>7023567
Lets have a look

>>7023584
Before hrt:
http://m.imgur.com/RqDIMza

After:
http://m.imgur.com/gD80OlI

>>7023672
>That difference
10/10 on my cute scale anon, gives me hope that when I go on HRT I'll turn out qt

>inb4 insecure faggots voting for Trump because they think it makes them look better to the fascists

Stop uncle tomming for one minute and support a party you actually agree with

>>7023672
Oh shit anon good change
How old are u/when did you start mones?

>>7023680
You will famila I started at 24 had to stop after a year on hrt two years later started again and my body still turned out pretty good. Only thing unhappy with is my shoulders and my face.

>>7023697
What dosages?

>>7023697
Yeah I'm that jobless anon, gives me hope that when I can finally find something I wont of left it too long

>>7023709
100mgs of cypro now 50
4mgs of estrogen.

>>7023714
You can and you will trust me I was jobless only camming for a year. You can do it if my horribly anxious ass can work anyone can.

>>7023571
I can. I will post it soonish, to avoid biasing the results by posting the results too soon.

>>7023672
Qt.

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>>7023837
Its okay should I take it again I took it last thread?

>>7024100
Thanks Congrats on your dubs anon x3

>>7024264
Take it again if you took the old one from last thread that I loss acres to. If you took the new one, then do not take the new one again.

>>7023672
I was expecting disappointment from these pictures

I was expecting the usual
>Before: shitty picture of grumpy beta
>After: Practiced look and pose with perfect hair and makeup and lighting, still looks like a kinda girly dude

But yours is truly a success story. Wow my man. This is beatiful. I aspire to this. Those pictures are the first before/after pictures I've ever seen that actually fucking inspire hope and not fear+depression.

Congrats, godspeed, and good luck. You have given me fresh hope.

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Has femgen read a cry to heaven by Anne rice it's pretty much how fembois lived in the 1600 to 1700s
Basically the novel is about several castrati and their musical carers as opera singers, their emerging sexuality and the political landscape of the times. The locations are so vivid and beautiful Venice, Prague and Rome and Anne rice does an incredible job in describing the beautiful boys featured in this book. It well worth a read. There is even a bliwjob scene early in the book.

>>7024396
Okay anon I took it x3

>>7024417
Thanks friend I will say my face hasn't changed much so that's kinda weird having a super fem body with a masc face saving for ffs my body changed way more than I was expected and yeah the fat neckbeard to angledl hrt pics are stupid as fuck.

Mabye one day I will do a timeline of hrt effects for science.

My body did get pudgy some what so don't forget to excise boys

http://m.imgur.com/4DcjBeP

>>7023687
>uncle tomming
liberal proves once again they are the real racists

>>7023672
>>7024764
wow, i didn't know my doppelganger used to be a ripped skeleton tbqh

>>7024915
Were you a ripped skelletor as well famila?

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Did everyone surrive the ghost of harambe aka hurricane Matthew thank fully my cute ex and his bf are okay and all my friends and family are fine how did yall weather the storm and is everything okay?

Anyone have reports on bica's long term results?

>>7025293
Can you be more specific? We have data from prostate cancer patients, in the form of research articles linked in previous threads and now the Pastebin, which shows that it is relatively safe.

>>7025293
>>7023672

>>7025345
But anon that was Cypro, >>7023731

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>>7025345
But I take cyproterone..still I like this if it becomes a meme.

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>>7023672

>>7024915
>>7025254

Impostor!

>>7025654
haha I wonder if it would be legal to get this put on a billboard

>>7025773
Claim that it is a political message, and they cannot stop you. It is a lot less trashy than those "games and dames" billboards next to the railroad ROW, that's for sure.

>>7025785
What I'm thinking is, technically it's showing nothing that tanning salon ads don't (male nipples and feminine hips excluding the genital area)

>>7025793
Let's try it. Do we have permission from the poster of the images? ;-) :P

The word clouds for the short answer questions in the survey are interesting to look at.

>>7024764
Thank you for taking the survey.

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>>7025654
>>7025773
>>7025793
>>7025814

I love you all so much rn but I think I'd die of embrassment if a billboard went up for realz x3

>>7025664
There can only be one

>>7025654
>tfw went from 36-30-30 to 34-26-33

>femboys are getting SRS now
WTF happened to you guys!?
>>7026042

>>7026084
No we're not

>>7026084
I think that's a meme I highly doubt any femboi would get srs once you get srs you function sexually as a woman, it's painful and anyone who identifies as a man would be mortified to lose their junk.

>>7026084
>>7026178
>>7026202
Found a femboy wanting SRS in the archives: http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/6099858/#6104092
I personally would like both sets of organs. Not the trollposter.

>>7026202
>>7026084
I mean maybe in a very hypothetical way.

Like only if someone I truly loved and wanted to spend my life with wanted me to be like that. Think someone from mtfg was eves dropping last time I sad that and they got furious idk

In any rate it's a lot of money that could be used better and a huge inconvenience and down time. I can't imagine getting it under normal circumstances.

>>7025874
whats the time between those pics? you lost muscles completely but didnt gain much fat, you should eat more

>>7026233
If the surgery didn't look awful and actually functioned as a vagina like a stem cell vagina I'd get that operation after fixing my face first off course.

>>7026227
Being a futa would be impossible even intersex people hardly can get hard or have fully functional reproductive organs maybe one day

>>7026261
>>7024764
This imgur link is a more recent picture time was about 2 years of and on on this pic I'm about 8months back on hrt and the most recent I'm 10 months.

I do eat like huge portions my metabolism won't let me get past 147.

>>7026279
nice for less than 2 years, shame if it didnt make your face much fem tho

>>7026269
In response to both parts of your post, a person can dream.

>>7026269

Yeah I'm mtf but I don't want the current SRS very much. But if it was a stem cells vagina then I would do it.

>>7026233
>>7026269
jesus christ

Do any of the boys here have girl voices?

>>7026487
I sometimes get told I have a cute voice but I know for a fact it's not a girl-voice

>>7026487
Too deep into mtf territory for most of us desu

>>7026487
I have tried but it sounds like a gay voice.

wtf is it called when you like the general look of femgen and are happy with the idea of occasional good crossdressing (convincing, cute) , but don't totally believe in hormones?!? twinkgen?!?

>>7027348
Being a femboy


Who will inevitably be fucked by his T

How tall is femgen?

>>7027377
5'7"
145 lbs

>>7027377

5'8''
132 lbs

>>7027377
5'11 147 lbs

>>7026338
But laboratory grown vaginas are already being implemented in the treatment of
Mayer-Rokitansky-Küster-Hauser syndrome, or MRKHS.

>>7027412

I wonder about labias and clits and everything though. Might take a while for that more complex structure.

>>7027377
5'8"
149lb (working on losing it though, a few days back I was 150lb)

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Trump will make femboys great again.

>>7027377
5'0 90lbs... I'm Asian though

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hate to to be the bearer of bad news but testosterone will posion every bit of feminity out of natural fembois unless they take hormones or Serms look at bill kaulitz he was pretty much mistakable as a girl now he looks like a completely different person. Andreja and stav we're smart to get on hormones.

Before t posion
http://m.imgur.com/2BeWOU4,OImHDxK,0QAHeJj
after t poison

http://m.imgur.com/fdShTOn,nSw96c9

>>7027462
>90lbs
I think I was 13 when I had weight that low

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>>7027418
From the news article labia majoria and the clit where all fully functional all girls said they could reach orgasms I have a link to the study if you want it.

>>7027453
Hey I did that thing too here's mine.

>>7027509
but testosterone is bretty gud desu
I wish I was both qt and hairless but with energy and strength of a normal boy

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>>7027517

I've looked at that study. I think the thing was the females had absent/malformed vaginas, but they still had clits and stuff. Wheres we would need like to produce the clit, labia majora and minora. It would have to be made from a variety of tissues and be in a more complex shape than a tube like in the study.

Unless technology advances to the point where they can inject like newt DNA and just carve out the whole mess, slather stem cell paste onto it, and have it grow into a vagina....

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>>7027509
>>7027520
Forget bill, at least he's still kina cute.

Look at Chris Croaker and tell me you'd want to be a fat flouncing bear fairy like that

>>7027520

Testosterone in the brain is nightmare mode.

>>7027538
Why again would a fem need a clit for a tranny meatsock if they get to keep their dick?

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>>7027520
>Hairless
>testosterone is pretty gud

Honestly boyish looks would be pretty great but Ive yet to encounter someone who retains boyish looks past their late 20s without hormones even my ex looks Manish when before he looked adorable and I looked manly hormones are a hell of a drug.

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>>7027377
5'4", 120 lbs

>>7027520
>both qt and hairless but with energy and strength of a normal boy
This is me

>>7027377
6'4" 235 lbs

>>7027548

Futa could be nice but personally I would rather just have a natural pretty looking vagina. Then again I'm mtf so kek.

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>>7027540
Yeah bill is really hot like pound my femboi ass hit but good God wtf chris wasn't ever attractive but Jesus that queen let himself go. How could anyone have the misfortune of living in the same state as this reject.
>mfw I do.

>>7027538
Oh shit your right I should have reread the study welp I'm okay with my dick so long as it's tiny and easily concealed cause it will take science forever to accomplish a feat like that.

>>7027552
Cute x3 I bet I could pick you up and hug you and your feet wouldnt touch the ground. I'm the 5'11 anon.

>>7027548

Honestly now that I think about it at least it would be an upgrade to have a vagina under my cock, at least until such time as I can get a clit etc. made. Ahh now you've got me excited lol.

>>7027538
But what then if science goes to far, if that vagina gains intelligence and escapes the lab..eventually this vagina runs for president..what if this vagina was Hillary Clinton.

>>7027544
lack of testosterone in brain = depression
>>7027552
I bet you are asian too!

>>7027589
I wish this could happen to me. The guy I'm seeing right now is only 2 or 3 inches taller than me so elevated hugs aren't possible

>>7027613
>I bet you are asian too!
Ahh close, I'm half asian

>>7027613

Take estrogen to avoid depression.

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>>7027630
implying it helps
add to it that all common AAs increase chances of depression

>>7027649

Bica and E anon.

>>7027653
>>7027649

And before you say it causes depression too, it's probably due to decreased T binding in the brain, which can be rectified with E.

Are women more depressed than men? I think it's the opposite actually.

>>7027669

Hmm maybe women have more actually, lol.

>>7027673

Still, the male suicide rate is higher.

>>7027680
on the flip side womens suicide attempt rate is higher

>>7027706
Take estrogen to lower your chances of successfully killing yourself

>>7027669
>Are women more depressed than men
Absolutely yes, but those poor creatures have monthly fluctuations of hormone levels and ever more drastic changes with pregnancy so its not really comparable to estrogen boys

>Depression is about twice as common in women as in men, with about 1 in 4 women suffering from depression at some point during her lifetime.

>before adolescence, rates of depression are about the same among girls and boys. Things begin to shift between the ages of eleven and thirteen.

>By the age of fifteen females are twice as likely as males to suffer from depression.

>>7027706
because attempted suicide is an extreme form of attention whoring

>>7027348
That would be non-HRT femgen. Or maybe just cd/sissy (which /cuteboys/ is REALLY into)

>>7027669
>>7027680
>>7027706
>women have higher '''''depression''''' rates and suicide attempts
>males have lower '''''depression''''' rates but actually kill themselves more
rly makes u think

>>7027953
Fucking hell I wish /cuteboys/ was actually good

>>7027377
5'8"
125 Ibs

>>7027613
I've been on just bica for a few months so my t isnt low yet I feel a lot better than I did

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>>7027348
/femgen/ is /twinkgen/
but the trannies in here that unironically want to look like the pics on >>7027453 and >>7027517 are offended by that because they know twinks will always look better than them no matter how many pills they take

>>7028126
>no matter how many pills they take
See you in 10 years senpai

>>7027348
That's "femgen 2013" before the trannies invaded.

>>7028124
that's not how bica works, it doesnt lower T and has limited blood-brain barrier penetration - lesser affect on the brain andro receptors, thus much lower rate of depression and loss of libido

>>7028130
I'm sure you'll still look like a freakish long haired tranny, hon, but you guys seem to aspire to look like faye when you're 30 so that's to be expected

and I never said I don't take pills also

>>7028184
At least I'm not sad :^)

>>7027953
>>7028000
is that on cripplechan?

>>7028190
yeah, cause you are not taking ancient shit-tier diuretics for grannies ^)

>>7028186
If you take pills your not really a good person to speak for the twinks who dont and if your so naturally fem post a picture I have multiple times as to what estrogen did to my body. And don't call people who've never posted a picture a hun for all you know they are cuter than you ;3

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>>7028126
>/femgen/ is /twinkgen/
>Google twink first result is this
>fem

I'm mean he's cute but nigga that ain't feminine in the slightest.

>>7028226
I posted a pic two threads ago in an unsee link, and I'm not going to upload it again just to use as an argument against trannies in the thread

what do you do when you grow old and masculine? Are you really ok with the lifestyle you desire being a fleeting part of your youth?

>>7028279
We die

>>7027626
Get him a pair of platform boots that add two inches or so maybe it could work.

>>7028274
Meh not a tranny second your taking hormones so calm your t-rage or up your dose. I don't get your point your taking hormones and you identify as a twink
When this is a twink..>>7028270
Why take hormones at all??

I don't get your argument and accusations of trannyness.

>>7028315
>When this is a twink..>>7028270
it objectively is not. like the one key defining trait of a twink is to be dyel. above all else. you can't be otter and twink, it's a paradox. That's why there's the term twunk (which is a stupid term anyways)

>>7028126
what an ugly masculine guy. i am glad this is no longer the ideal picture of how femboy is supposed to look like

suck it butthurt twinks :^) suck on my estrogen-riddled dick you balding masc crybabies :::^^)

>>7028340
==>
>>7028270

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>>7027554
>above 150 lbs
>femboy

>6'4
>femboy

you're all great girls and I feel sorry that you feel like you have to live this way :(

>>7028329
But it is I've watched way more gay porn and probably been in the gay community longer than you. A twink can be a fit young gay guy, a skinny young gay guy and rarely a naturally fem gay guy. Its a blanket term for young gay guy if you make this a twink Gen it would be just like gay Gen if you want that go to gay Gen.

>>7021773
Can we have these poll results?

>>7028389
No twink is a blanket term for skinny guys. be they fem or not. but basically they have to be soft and lean. that's literally the definition. that you have seen it mis-applied doesn't change that

>>7028365
fuck off

>>7028395
Twink is a gay slang term used to describe young men in their late teens to early twenties. Usage of the term varies, but traits attributed to twinks can include attractiveness, having little or no body or facial hair, a slim to average build, or appearing to be younger than their chronological age. The term dates back to at least 1963, but may be derived from the older British term twank.

Shut up about shit you know nothing about kid. The urban dictionary is not the correct definition for everything :>)

>>7028365
What is wrong with you we aren't girls lol.

>>7028417
/twankgen/ WHEN

>>7028353
>above 110 pounds
>femboy

>>7028427
========>
>>7028285

Seriously tho that would be hillarious.

been thinking about going full fem but i don't think i have the right face for it and i'm too paranoid to post face anywhere
on an unrelated note, where is the best place to hang a noose?

>>7028353
im just tryna get some ass, bro

>>7028193
Yeah. I came there hoping for /femgen/: The Board, but it's just literal faggot central

>>7028505
>>7028427

Enjoy twinks x3
>>7028511

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>>7028274
>>7028126
Uh, no.
We want to look like the guy version of Andrej.

And let's be honest. You'd have to be crazy to let aging turn you into something like croaker >>7027540

Especially when all the Russian models his age are aging like vampires cause of doping.

>>7028518
Why do twinks need their own thread? There aren't even enough of them on the board to keep the gaygen healthy, and what few of them there are seem to be certainly happy enough hanging out here.

(That's not to say I don't appreciate the thread for its meme/shitpost value, though.)

>>7028547
if you want to look like that then you are literally a tranny

>>7028548
There seems to be a division of fembois taking hrt and twinks in this general I think most fems will agree hormones or serms enable vampire like aging think stab and andre before granny that's the aesthetic we want to approach the twinks think they won't age and get masc which is lol worthy. That being said it's a shitpost x3

>>7028555
But what if we don't want to pretend we're "girls"? What then?

(((((>>7028555)))))
So fucking what. I don't identify as a tranny; WHAT NOW?

>>7028569
>a division of fembois taking hrt and twinks
I think it's probably actually healthy to have that mix.

The fembois taking HRT will help keep the masculinity down and promote the vampire-aging and unmasculine aesthetic (which is best aesthetic); but we need a couple of twinks to help fend off the self-identified trannies who will poison the thread with crossdressing, gender identity politics, and general hon BS.

tl;dr: HRT fembois are the soul and lifeblood of the thread but we need a few twinks as Tranny/Hon repellant.

>>7028511
For you x3

>>7027377
5'5"

>>7026227
I found an example in the archives of a femboy actually getting SRS:
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/5825038/#q5825569

>>7028572
>>7028577
then you're mentally ill, which is ironically a defining characteristic of trannies

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>>7028555
That's a Russian Man.

The fact he's pretty, and defying age doesn't make him stop being a man.

By your definition anything that isn't a fat slob is a tranny.

>>7027377
5'9''
130 lbs

>>7028624
>long hair
>painted nails
>"pretty"
>clearly is trying to look female
>russian man
>looking like a tranny freak is the same thing as defying age

you're delusional

>>7027520
Some, if not all, of the anabolic effects of testosterone are not mediated by the androgen receptor, as seen by this study showing people on bicalutamide did not loss muscles:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20950306
Bicalutamide has reduced blood-brain barrier penetration, as indicated by its low rate of of libido loss:
http://www.antialabs.com/reference/21018026.pdf
Darolutamide, AKA ODM-201, has almost no blood-brain barrier penetration, as shown by it having no effect on the levels of LH in the human patients, which would had increased if it went through the blood-brain barrier by causing the brain to think less sex hormones are in the blood:
http://www.nature.com/articles/srep12007
A SERM can be sued to avoid the other adverse side effects of ADT:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2213888/
Raloxifene is generally antiestrogenic, but it still is proestrogenic in the right places to avoid the adverse side effects of ADT, as shown in the previous article: http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/content/90/13/967.long
Raloxifene is neuroprotective, improving cognitive outcomes:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27193386

>tl;dr
Take bicalutamide for no effects on muscle and limited effects on the brain, or wait a bit for darolutamide for no effects on muscles and no effects in the brain. Raloxifene will resolve other adverse side effects without causing other issues, and is neuroprotective.

>>7028593
Honestly the twinks kind of just call everyone on hrt a tranny some are needed how we gunna get some with out tops lol but I think 90 percent of us are not trannies. That being said thus whole argument is dumb as it was started by someone on hormones anyways.

>>7028658
Since bica doesn't affect muscles would it not help in losing muscle? I've lost a lot of muscle but I also stopped eating as much protein

>>7028643
You're hilarious. Anyone who does neoteny and androgyny well in your book is a tranny.

>>7028279
We may grow old, but with the drugs we take we will not be masculine.

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According to my friend the term Homosexual is outdated and considered offensive? Is that right? I've been using it forever so I'm really surprised.

>>7028761
Yes, the proper term is faggot.

>>7028730
This by nuking or testosterone or by preventing it from binding we are stopping the masculine aging process.

>>7028547
Yet that's the fate of most men croaker was ugly as fuck anyways but he might have been less shit if on hormones.
Take notes boys.

>>7028761
Fairy seems to suffice but for true sjw polictal correctness try lgbtqabcdefg

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what is the cutoff height for a femboy?

>>7028658
what if I want to get rid of my muscles to reduce shoulders, bica wont help me?

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>>7028772
6.1 if you have the looks

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>>7028783
Well shoulders are mostly comprised of bone so taking any form of hrt cannot reduce them what can happen is your muscle mass can decrease and thus shoulders appear less broad.

>>7028693
Not eating as much protein and not having as much anaerobic exercise would contribute to losing muscles.

/twankgen/ is illegitimate as even the farthest /femgen/ that loveisover goes back to has HRT discussion:
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/2589661/#q2602162

>>7029020
Here is a user from that thread even taking HRT:
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/2589661/#q2603517

>>7029020
if anything it legitimizes it more because it shows there were fundemental differences between twinks and femboys from the very beginning, which is a reason to have a seperate thread

>>7029020
Well yeah it was made as a parody
Its pretty wellknown femgen has always been feminine males on hrt or considering it.

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>>7029020
There will always be separatists and malcontents

Ignore them and keep the age old tradition of posting /y/ smutt

>>7028643
Probably got SRS like this guy:
>>7028609

>>7029081
Stav hasn't

>>7028392
When enough people respond.

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>>7029064
Aw I like you was just trying to have some some fun and show an anon how silly there argument was while simultaneously posting hot sexy guys.

I'm thinking of inviting a really fem guy from my school over
I want to sit on his face while we play video games

>>7029157
Then do it, you cute little lovebirds.

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>>7029157
Sounds really fun blowjob and rimjobs while playing video game is a really hot fantasy I've yet to fufil you should green text if it goes well.

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>>7029150

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>tfw present entirely as a girl but people who know me treat me as a cute boy
>tfw people confuse me for a girl even when I speak in an andro voice and I have to tell them I'm a boy

life is great but you wanna know what the best feel is? Trapping oblivious masc dudes knowing that they'd get really mad if I revealed to them I was a dude once they checked me out. They'd probs get really mad and try to force me to do stuff to them or they might try to violate my pink little boypussy.

>>7028184

Wrong. Bica has enough blood brain barrier penetration to block your brain from sensing it.

Read wikipedia.

>>7029312
no idiot, they'll cave in your skull.

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>>7029331
Don't be a party pooper now anon!
A boy can fantasize!

>>7029338
there's people dumb enough to actually try this shit though, and then are confused why they got their ass kicked.

>>7028783

It will help. Bica does reduce muscles and affect the brain significantly in humans (can be seen based on how it increases LH).

>>7029341
Yeah ;~;

Well the opposite could also be fun. Coming on strong to your best friend who's a big muscly guy and making him slowly fall for you.

It's nice that guys think so much with their dicks, most of them would put it in your butt for looking even slightly fem.

Tfw no femboy bf

>>7029338
>>7029359

Don't worry there's just a """""straight""""" """"""masc"""""" """""""guy"""""""" in the thread atm shitposting out of denial or something.

>>7029312
God that's my dream live it up but be safe about it, yeah its fun to flirt with straight guys but it easier to get laid and not get hurt by meeting guys at gay clubs or online. Remember there are still homophobes everywhere but teasing is okay that shir is fun but if it gets past teasing revel your a boy make sure your in a crowded environment when you make the relevation and good luck sucking straight guys off.

Pls respond

>>7029494

>>7021773
Why are femboys so wonderful?

>>7029326
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3735098/
>percentage of men who were sexually inactive increased from 48% to 83% after orchiectomy and from 45% to 80% after gonadotropin-releasing hormone agonist administration.

As opposed to:
http://www.antialabs.com/reference/21018026.pdf
>decreased libido (3.6% vs 1.2%), impotence (9.3% vs 6.5%)
for bicalutamide.

The only plausible mechanism of action for these vastly different numbers is that bicalutamide does not extremely easily pass through the blood-brain barrier. Obviiusly it does pass though somewhat, rates of libido loss were higher than in placebo, and it does have enough to block the brain from sensing it, but is not complete. As the evidence clearly shows reduced blood-brain barrier penetration, I was not wrong, as I only claimed reduced, not eliminated, blood-brain barrier penetration. I did read Wikipedia, Wikipedia cites this same exact source as I did. Even if we state that it effects the brain significantly, it is reduced compared to other methods.

>>7029356
The study that I show claimed there was no muscle loss in patients treated with bicalutamude, which could be explained by non-androgenic anabolic effects of testosterone, such as it glucocorticoid antagonism. Do you have a different study?

>>7029512
Razors and lasers. Antiandrogens can help with body hair.

How does this even make sense! Someone in the poll stated that they do not want to be on HRT, but they do want neuropsychological and muscle loss effects from HRT. That is literally self-contradicting.

>>7029828
>caring about (((the poll)))

>>7029945
Whats with the triple parentheses?

How do you guys cum through anal sitmulation

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how is /femgen/ going to handle the fact that /twinkgen/ is about to become a huge success and will likely overtake /femgen/ leaving nothing but trannies to remain here?

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>>7029979
I see you haven't read your SICP today.

>>7030060
Kek

>>7030060
It'll get overtaken by discussion of HRT, die for a few months, then come back. That's what happened near the end of last year, at least.

>>7030100
This desu.

>>7030060
I highly doubt that will happen it was made as a joke the fact that people are taking it seriously tho...are people just dumb? I mean I titled it twankgen for fucks sake.

>>7030222
This reminds me of the time that I created the merger thread of /mtfg/ and /femgen/ and essentially did not post anything past the intiail one, but everyone kept it going and making even more mergers and it started to destroy /femgen/ until the moderators finally intervened.

>>7030257
Your pure evil tho mtfg is the very pit of depravity and not cause there trannies cause it's overrun with trip gossip, back stabbing, and the biggest group of attention whores on /lgbt/

I just wanted to have some fun posting cute guys in a dead thread that had an ironic title.

>>7030288
It is similar insofar as what was created as a joke started to get a life of its own from other posters, and I doubt the moderators will intervene in this case. Currently attempting derailment of that thread, please standby.

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Can I even be a femboy if I've had boobs since I was 12? Am I cursed to go full tranny because I'm intersex?
I don't like being called a girl...

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>>7030304
Oh your not evil then just someone like me bored and stuff sorry said that.

If that was you that posted the gender critical link I like the way you work.

>>7030351
Yeah, I probably should had edited the title out of the URL first though, so they would had been more likely to click on it.

>>7030373
That doesn't explain the thread being deleted and then recreated sometime later. In any case, help us with shitposting /twank/.

>>7030328
Another victim to risperdalh I know it sucks like one if my coworkers has gyno he can't stand it you could be a femboi if your cute enough or you could have up to have boobs removed actually insurance will cover that you'll just have a scars on your chest.

>>7030328
You are not cursed to go full tranny, we will accept you as a femboy. If you do not link being called a girl, then you are not full tranny.

Femgen is dying
Good bye bbys

>>7030400
I see you have started with the shitposting. Thank you.

>>7030443
It is not, it just needs to be on life support for a bit while we recover from the runaway joke.

>>7030447
Was it that obvious although honestly nothing brings down threads more than sjw views I have to clean up the mess I made I like femgen.

>>7030447
Meant to reply to:
>>7030397

>>7030400
And scars are fucking cool as shit

>>7030487
They do look pretty metal.

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For anyone who deals with razorburn on your ass and has had e-fucking-nough, I've made a revelation. This shit is what I use, but pretty much any benzoyl peroxide wash will work (the higher the concentration of benzoyl peroxide the better). This method is industrial and metal as fuck and will either nuke your burn and get rid of it within a few hours or nuke your skin into oblivion. I applied it to my dry ass and left it there for ~8 minutes and washed it off in the shower and used moisturizer and skin wash afterwords. It literally was gone within hours. But I know a lot of people that react really bad to benzoyl peroxid so BE WARNED. It's worth a try though, your skin will heal, and it might really really work. I assume it'll work on thighs ect. as well. Good luck.

>>7030595
I think using cocunut oils and epilating rather than shaving could save your ass from chemical Burns desu

Reminder that if you don't have long hair, you are not a femboy.

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>>7030670
Eeep
>tfw was considering cutting my hair short again.

>>7030670
Reminder that if your hair is past your shoulders you're more than likely a tranny

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Is my hair long enough?

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>>7030670
kys

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>>7030725
how many times do I have to yell you bois there's no offical standards for being a femboy. If you like yourself that's all that matters. But you look really good by the way, if you want it longer do so but don't feel like you have to you can totes be a femboy with short hair.

>>7030670
>>7030696
Taken together, these two statements imply that all femboys are trannies. Fug.

>>7030982
Mid-length to shoulder-length hair is the best hair for femboys tbqh

The great femgen civil war of '16 decimates the ranks of femboys and leaves them nearly extinct

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>>7030696

>>7030993
this
it's all i ever recommend to aspiring fems

>>7031088
closeted as fuck

who here /femboichaser/

i just want a cuteboy to bully and protect

>>7031226
>tfw no masc4fem bf

>>7029558

Thing is even if it penetrates the bbb "weakly" that's a relative term. Obviously if it's enough to increase LH to the point of doubling T levels, then it fucking passes bbb significantly lol

Guys I'm so mad. I could have been a slutty femboy qt, but I grew up in a conservative home and went to a christian school. I'm 22 now and while people tell me I'm cute, I think back to how I was when I was a young teen; god I could have been an adorable gay slut, but I'm frankly no longer in my prime. I try to maintain my looks but I'm not near as attractive as I used to be and taking care of myself in the way I'd want to is hard, too expensive (currently), or socially unnacceptable where I live (like hormones). I mean I'm not hopelessly unattractive, far from it actually, but I'm sad about the fact that I'll never be -really- beautiful again.

actually, I've never been as beautiful as I want to be. Even when I had older french men, PE teachers, classmates, and my mom falling for me there were still guys I knew that were more gorgeous than me. They were so hot and still make me weak to think about

and there's the issue of being beautiful/hot/cute/feminine, I've seen it make people happy to see beauty and to be beautiful people, and being told I'm cute myself makes me feel good about myself and makes me feel good knowing other people enjoy looking at me; but it doesn't fucking last!!

why is life so cruel. Being a beautiful femguy can be so pure and good, comfy and happy, but it's so rare, and life takes it away so quickly. Not to mention it can make people bitter and jealous, which is also sad and cruel, both to the people who feel jealousy and to the person being hated on for being beautiful.

There's got to be some philosophy of life to help deal with this hot mess.

Sorry for the long rant, I'm just bitter about the fun I feel like I missed when I was young. Also horny

>>7031226
bully me senpai

>>7031779
Anon I'm angry at my teen self because there was a fucking 10/10 qt femboy at my school but I never decided to go full femboy just because he always got bullied

>I'm just a gay guy who likes to look like a girl and who needs to take hormones to grow boobs like a girl or else I'll hate my body!
>I'm totally not fucking trans I swear!

Yeah, okay you keep telling yourselves that.
/mtfg/ will be waiting.

>>7031891
>Taking hormones to grow boobs
>Not taking hormones to get soft hairless skin and vampire ageing
You're only trans if you want to cut off your dick and demand people call you a girl

>>7031779
I fucking hated getting masc since I turned 13, the body hair is the worst thing ever

still you are young, save the tears for when you turn 30

>>7031891
>gay
Not necessarily.

And we will never join MtFg because while we want to be physically feminine, the trannies want to be seen as '''''females''''', disregarding reality.

So yeah, we all have GD, but /femgen/ is a good solution while MtF is a shit. We accept we will always be male and proceed from there, whereas they start with "we are women spiritually" as their premise #1. When we're 35 and finally age into 20yo twinks and grudgingly, but fully embrace being male, they'll be dragging it up still clinging to their delusions of "imma real women because I say so".

>>7031931
Everything about this post speaks to me

>>7030060
Haha wew lad

There aren't even enough twinks here to keep the gaygen alive, WHEN COMBINED WITH ALL THE OTHER GAYS.

>>7031226
>tfw no one to bully and protect me the feels.

>>7031839
>>7031779
I can relate lads I look back at pictures of myself and I'm like who is the semen demon sadly I was closeted bad tho my best friend would fuck me on.the reg I convinced myself I'm not a bottom pillow biter. I tried everything to masc up from sports to stupid thug shit like stealing drugs and selling them. Id reven get on chat rooms and trap it up befire revealing i was a guy and calling them a faggot All while telling myself I'm a good Christian.

That being said hormones were not as accessible at 16 and not having a job then parents I wasn't out too we we're really just born in.the wrong time anon.

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>>7031931
>tfw when turning thirty in three years

I got on hormones at 24 God I hope I don't get the second wave of test on 100mgs of cypro.

>>7032004
Isn't 100mg overkill?

>>7031779
Fuck whats socially acceptable, just do what you want. If you want to go on HRT, then get on HRT.

>>7031527
Still at least somewhat less effect upon the brain than other methods, which is all I claimed. Of course, this will all be irrelevant whenever darolutamide gets approved.

>>7032006
Anything to kill the testosterone
I was getting burnt my sunlight like I'd get a heat rash from bring outside longer than an hour so I dropped to 50mgs but it doesn't seem the same

Does anyone else here have an overcontrolling mother?

>>7032571

Go to bed NOW or I'm unplugging the router. for a week... LAST WARNING!!!!

>>7032663
...

>>7032571
>>7032663
Fuck you mom, I run the IT around here

;_;

>>7032571
Yep.

Made me do tons of chores and scolded me for not getting perfect grades.

Part of the reason I'm so into femdom now.
Also me being a femboy with tits.

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>>7032004
What's this about a surge? Why would that happen if you're suppressing?

>>7033551
Well I could be paranoid but I'm really scared of the second puberty which occurs in late twenties to thirties like I couldn't possibly get uglier but if there's a chance I can I don't want to take that chance.

>>7033618
Just keep getting blood tests and you should be fine.

>>7031980
There are so many things wrong with this post. Does anybody have any hindsight or reflection and self-analysis here?

>>7034646
Please elaborate.

>>7033618
Why would that happen if your endocrine has been altered?

>>7025439
Was just deleted. It didn't even violate any rules.
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/7025439

>>7034680
1. Narcissism in the fact that you think you used to look like a "semon demon"
2. Having a sexual relationship with your best friend which results in you rebounding and trying to become macho is fucked up on several levels
3. Stealing drugs
4. Selling drugs
5. Doing steps 3 and 4 to appear "macho"
6. Baiting men in chat rooms to emasculate them or whatever even though you yourself wanted to appear macho before making steps 2 - 5 even more fucked up

Why am I even bothering? You sound like a basket case who will never understand just how messed up his actions are

i was on spiro and estrogen for a year and a half, i liked the emotional changes and lots of the physical changes but the breast growth put me off a bit so I've stopped for the time being.

is it possible for me to just take testosterone blockers to stay fem?

The mods are starting to get really shitty:
>>7034729
It did not violate any rules, but it got deleted.

>>7034759
Yes, but take raloxifene as well. Even if you are taking cypro so estradiol level increase is not an issue, there will be side effects without either a full estrogen or a SERM.

>>7025373
>>7025874
>>7027509
>>7027550
>>7027579
>>7028838
>>7030351
>>7032004
could you stop fucking avatar fagging, you're doing the same shit in /twinkgen/, which I know you made the thread but you ironically aren't allowed in it, so fuck off

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>>7034976
Enjoy your dead thread and it's twankgen.

>>7034787
wut

>>7034721
Probably right but I realize I was a shitty person in the past and I've worked on myself since and I was a semen demon that is a fact, my best friend forced me to have sex with him so that explains the repression as for the trapping and criminal activities I get that was fucked up.

Regarding neuropsychological effects of HRT:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16297984

>>7035331
oh thanks for that

>>7033618
you get more DHT but T levels slowly drop after 30s, might be worth taking 5α-reductases blocker like Dutasteride if you see signs

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Thoughts on this?:

http://www.academia.edu/7785594/ESTRADIOL_ALONE_MAY_SUPPRESS_TESTOSTERONE_.or_NOT_Which_is_it_A_Review_of_a_Recent_Study_

>>7036021
it's known fact
not enough for fully developed male, you'd just be a pudgy low-test dude with gyno

>>7035763
I'm noticing Dutateride comes in a much much smaller dosage, 0.5mg seems common. Is it more effective than Finasteride which takes 1-2mg?

Has anyone actually gotten uglier through estrogen? I already look pretty feminine (pre-everything) and I'm afraid things will backfire on me.

>>7036129

So basically we should be shooting for levels that are enough alone to suppress E without an AA?

>>7035763
Thanks I should probably do that anyways considered blocking dht can lessen body hair right I don't have much but I want it gone.

>>7036021
>Perhaps we should note that in the data presented, between 50% and 60% of patients lowered their Testosterone with only oral estradiol at the low level of 4 mg or when the dose was raised upped to 6 mg Furthermore, 67% of those receiving 8mg Estradiol suppressed their Testosterone.
>Oral mode is the least efficient estradiol administration because of the first pass through the liver where the bulk (up to 70% of estradiol is metabolized away, often producing large quantities of estrone which is about 100 times weaker than estradiol and ia potential competitive inhibitor).
>What thousands of transitioning TG women know is that when the oral mode doesn’t succeed in more visible ways or in raising serum levels estradiol, they must then attempt transdermal route via patches or gel. Transdermal mode has been studied extensively and shown to be effective and safe while further elevating estradiol blood levels.
>When transdermal mode is not adequate (due to difficulties with skin absorption or irritation or excessive perspiration) most then go the Intramuscular Mode, which is much more potent and serum levels often get very much higher.
>The Importance of serum levels achieved by HRT is crucial because serum Estrogen is a natural T blocker in anatomical males. to the hypothalamic area “fooling” the HPG System into “thinking” that male testosterone negative feedback system is dictating a diminution of Luteinizing Hormone (LH) release by the Pituitary.

tl;dr: E can block T, but you're going to need to be taking E shots for it to actually be significant.

It states later on in the paper that E does a best job of keeping already-low T levels suppressed; taking AAs at the start is still the best course of action.

>>7036402

Oh.

So basically it's just saying that AAs are only necessary based on the relatively lower E levels caused by oral administration?

But aside from suppressing T, in that case what do you think about the assertion that it would be better feminization wise if we shot for like 300 pg/ml of estrogen and upwards?

>>7036208
it is. and it blocks 2 kinds while Finast blocks one, and its not as straight-forward, there are side effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-alpha_reductase#Inhibition

>>7036348
afaik it wont be gone if it's already there but it wont increase or grow back much after laser

>>7036468
>Finasteride inhibits two 5-alpha reductase isoenzymes, while dutasteride inhibits *all three*

quick correction

>>7036426
Well, provided you're keeping safe and can afford it, it might help make up for lost time.

> 22
> Skelly
> Much hair
> Tall a.f

I want to be a femboy. Whut do? ;-;

>>7036495

Take bicalutamide and estrogen.

AAs, and perhaps razors or lasers.

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>>7036495
cut hight
save money for hair removal
take care of yourself

(body hair is the thing I hate most about myself I cant get over it, thanks dad!)

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>>7036236
its subjective but if you are a handsome manly guy HRT might turn you into a bloatface that looks like an ugly female, cant change bone structure without surgery, sadly

also when you are mid-way after few months you might look weird nether man nor woman

>>7036402
and you should be taking estro depo for max efficiency, but thats for the other thread

>>7036495
>>7036545
Can you not epilate? Or even just shave? E V E R Y O N E has body hair.

>>7036498
Hormones take a long fucking time before the body hair begins to thin, and that'll be the least of your effects at that point

>>7036563
>also when you are mid-way after few months you might look weird nether man nor woman
das da goal tho

Androgyny aesthetic FTW

Especially when you are "officially presenting" as masculine, but seem to be intrinsically feminine, it's like the opposite of the hon effect.

>>7036468
>>7036480
Thanks anon! I'll look into getting some.

>>7036628
>das da goal tho
it works if you are naturally qt with small features, not everyone has a face like that

New thread:
>>7036744
>>7036744
>>7036744

>>7036501
Meant to reply to:
>>7036495