/ftmg/ - female to male general

>>6978590
grinchposter, would you be attracted to a guy if he happened to be trans?

>>6978687
what if you wanted a straight guy to fuck you and he turned out to be ftm? would you bottom for his packer/decent, not-as-bad-as-assumed neopenis?

>>6978720
i would fuck you, but as a straight guy i'm not into faggots :^)

First for /femgen/ merger next thread.

>>6978744
you tried this last thread too, it's not happening
sorry, i know you want to chain marshall up in your basement so bad
>>6978742
why should i obey a degenerate aids-ridden faggot :^)

>>6978759
>failed female
given the inferiority of females, an ftm is really more of an advanced one, a post-female if you will, so superior to the accident of his birth that he becomes something greater

Where did our other thread go?

>>6978579
Wasn't there another new thread already?

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GET A BOYFRIEND

>>6981909
Yeah this one caught grinch so we were using a Tomy Robbins edition, whoever the hell that is.

>>6981962
Go to bed duck you can't English

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>>6981983

Woof woof, nigger

>>6981986
Doge. You are not a duck. Do you sell boyfriends?

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>>6982005

They cost tree fiddy

>>6982012
Can I pay in butties

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>>6982023

Yes send all

>>6982037
Changed my mind. No butties for you.

>>6982037
He doesn't mean what you think he means.

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>>6982046

A DEAL IS A DEAL

>>6982048

What do YOU mean?

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>>6982053
Butties.

>>6982067

FUCK YES CHIP BUTTY I WANT ONE OF THEM AND A BACON BUTTY PLS

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>>6982074
Shit, now I want a bacon butty too.

With an egg in it.

>>6982074
No butties for you.

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>>6982102

I'm gonna put an egg in your butty

>>6982106

gimme all the butties you got and nobody gets hurt

>>6982117
I lied. No butties here.

>>6982102
Fatty

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>>6982145

Then fucking get some

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>>6978749
I love how you assume that person is me lol. There are a lot of ftm femboys who likely agree with my opinions on male femininity, have you considered that?

Being ftm doesn't mean you have to be a weight lifting lumberjack or something.

>>6982162
Make me

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>>6982191

Sounds like you want me to

>>6982205
Sounds like you want me to want you to

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>>6982216

Neither if us are wrong

>>6982232
So nobody wants anything?

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Well, no butty but I do have a sausage sarnie and that's just the step below.

>>6982254
>chomped on
Reeeeeeee

>>6982278
I don't have germs, if it's legal sandwich tender then it's in serviceable condition.

>>6982308
You absolute savage

Got my histo scheduled for November. I can't wait to get rid of my stupid uterus.

>>6982324
Hunger is the line between monsters and men.

>>6982180
this is true but being ftm doesn't make you a femboy either

>>6982349
You mean hambeasts

>>6982343
Congrats dude. Protip, save some dead day candy until after surgery. They'll get you on the good stuff and then munchies.

Wasn't there another new thread? What happened to it?

>>6982388

It went to over-gape

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Does this look like a receding hairline to you?

>>6983043
Lol yep. Better get the Proscar.

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>>6982366
It does if you avoid testosterone.

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>>6983173
Gonna add to this post and say that this dumbass right here >>6983043 could have saved her locks if she had avoided test, as well as her future heart health.

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>>6983164
Well, shit me, I'm not even on T.

>>6983184
Jokes on you.

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>>6983196
That's clearly male pattern baldness. Who are you trying to fool?

This is what female pattern baldness looke like. It starts at the top of the head rather than the temples.

>>6983043
yes
>minoxidil
>finasteride/dutasteride
>dht-blocking foods ex. pumpkin seeds
try em
>>6983196
it's probably something you want to address before t and have baldness preventative measures

>>6983222
Ftmg is whiny bitch city. They aren't real men so they're useless try to reason with.

ftmg = ciswomen = irrational thought process

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>>6983246
Ftms are cool. Mtfs are literal fucking garbage. They literally think they are entitled to post in cislesgen. They are roleplayers taken to the max.

>>6983206
Guess I'm a natural manly man.

>>6983223
Would eating pumpkin seeds do anything or is that hippy pseudoscience? As of now the hairline doesn't bother me but thinking how much worse it could be on T is daunting. I'll see what a doc can give me when I'm closer to getting mones, not going to give the game away to every doctor I see.

>>6983255
literally
>literally

Please leave this world.

>>6983173
no, breddy sure it makes you a mascgirl.

>>6983043
I don't think so, I had a hairline like that before going on T.

>>6983339
how's that paranoia panning out for ya?

Well at least we know you're a teenager now based on "ur" typing. Disgusting

>>6982343
amazing, I guess I really am the laziest here

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>>6978579
WHY COULDNT I HAVE BEEN GENDERFLUID FUCK
EVERYTHING WOULD HAVE BEEN SO MUCH EASIER

Why did the last thread 404?

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>>6983422
>mfw when this post

lel literally what?

>>6981875
No idea. One of them was near post limit, so a second one was made. But then the 2nd one somehow 404'd not even 100 posts in. And now we're here in this one.

Maybe someone pissed off a mod?

>>6983222
>tfw grinch will never end marshallshit >>6983184 or caraposter

I wonder if aaaa/binary is still around

>>6982343
Congratulations!
>>6983043
That or you got one of those hairlines that naturally swoops pretty far back. Consider what your family's got and if it looks similar.

How did ftmgen become this epicenter of shitposting though

I mean really, what the fuck.

>>6983173

I hate eggs but now I want some sunny side up tomorrow with toast. Great.

>>6978579

Why does the OP mention phallo but not meta?

Is Brooklyn here?

>>6983729
Is she the one who types... Like this... All the time... ?

I reported her for being off topic last thread, her posts were deleted and I think she's banned lmao

>>6983727
This, meta is better and looks cute. Phalloplasty is creepy and gruesome as shit.

>>6983043
that's sort of what my hairline looked like before t and it hasn't really changed but i'm only 2.5 months in
i'm terrified of it changing though
inb4 marshallposter
>>6983727
>>6983771
i haven't updated the links yet, i'm probably gonna make a bottom surgery masterpost at some point
i prefer meta as well

>>6983703
forgot to put this one in my last post but it became this way because everyone hates ftms :')
not sure why, we're the least degenerate part of the whole acronym once you kick out trendscum

>>6983796
You're making a big mistake, but if you want to put your health at risk and not be cute then so be it.

>>6983703
>>6983799

I think trolls from outside of lgbt probably assume we're all fragile tumblrinas.

>>6983835
that's probably true for some but you also get a whole lot who WANT us to be fragile tumblrinas

>>6984054
Only marshallposter.

>>6984067
marshallposter claims not every femboy fetishist troll is her, though i'm skeptical

Why do you want to be guys? I don't get it myself.

Girls have life so much easier and they can be cute.

>>6985329
because our bodies are hideous prisons that eat at our souls and estrogen is a poison that destroys our ability to be happy
we don't 'want' to be guys, we are guys trapped within a hell you could never imagine

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>>6978579
Im gay. How do i get a ftm boyfriend? (without bottom surgury and doesnt want it). I love hairy masculine guys and really like men, but i think a guy with a vagina would be an ideal partner for me.

>>6985420
1. trans men aren't just vaginae, don't assume they are
2. a lot of trans men really don't want anyone touching their genitals though this is individual and some are really okay with it
3. okcupid might work, tinder, grindr, basically anything you'd meet another guy on
4. a lot of trans people in general are really sensitive about what they consider fetishism so keep that in mind

>>6985437
Yeah I know about the fetishism thing. Was kinda scared posting here because maybe y'all would call me a chaser and stuff then i remembered that this is an anonymous anime image board.

The vagina thing i knew about too, which is why i clarified that they must not have or want bottom surgury.

>What i didnt realize
Is the part about them not liking getting thier genitals touched.
Should i clarify that before i meet them that i would like vaginal penetration/to eat them out? Would that make me seem creepy?

Just curious (I'm honestly clueless about this): how do FtMs feel about MtFs?

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would an ftm consider dating an mtf girl ???


asking for a friend..........................

>>6985462
you should definitely make it clear at the first possible stage that you want to be involved with his genitals
the ones who have really severe dysphoria and don't want those parts acknowledged at all are generally the ones seeking bottom surgery, but some in that category still don't want bottom surgery for various reasons so it's not a guarantee
>>6985490
i have no problem with them in the abstract and think many of them are cute but also many of them are bitches
basically, same deal as cis girls
>>6985501
yes, post face pic

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>>6985553
Thanks for the advice :)

>>6985490
I've got no problems with them, but many of them (at least on here) breddy much detest us.

>>6985329
It's not "want to be a guy". It just is. We -want- to look and live how we feel most comfortable.

>>6983771

nah, not banned... sick and packing actually, the posts you reported that you had deleted were me saying that i was doing really bad and thinking about going to the hospital...

i ended up not going, i'm just gonna wait until after i move to go to a doctor if possible cuz i'm leaving here tomorrow...

anyway, i had other shit to do, you didn't get me banned, you just had posts deleted... and honestly? if you dislike me around here so much, it's all yours, not cuz you misgendered me and decided to do weird shit like report posts in a general that were just me telling people i speak to frequently i might be going to the hospital... but cuz looking around it looks like this is more your kinda place right now than mine...

enjoy

>>6985501
depends on the individual. i would absolutely consider dating a trans girl if i wasn't already involved with someone.

this question was in the other thread but i liked it a lot: how did you guys choose your male names?

for me i knew there was no way in hell i was going to get my family and the bulk of my coworkers to call me by an entirely new name, and with my own memory problems odds are i'd forget to sign things with it, so i just changed a letter in my birth name. it was already a name that could be masc or femme depending on spelling, so it worked out.

What's with all the trans women and genderqueer MAAB people coming in this thread and asking us why we wanna be men lately?

>>6985490

In general? Nothing. I don't judge people by their genders.

>>6985501

Plenty of guys would but I am aromantic.

>>6986329

I looked for the origin of my birth name. It's gaelic. I then looked for names of gaelic origin that begin with the same letter.

>>6986329
Rules are very strict on what names I can choose here so I just looked at the list of already accepted stuff and chose something that looked okay from there. The downside is that pretty much every other trans guy here is called that, but it's a normal name too so whatever.

I'm thinking of getting into goth fashion. It'd probably upset my folks but it's cheaper than buying pastels and it's cute. Sadly, men's goth fashion is... interesting.

>>6985684
>many of them (at least on here) breddy much detest us.
Really? I've never noticed that before.

>>6986329
i originally chose an aiden type name when i came out at 13 but everyone agreed it was ridiculous, so one of the many therapists i saw in the first few months gave me the short version of my name and it's the one i use in daily life
i picked the long version myself because it was my favourite variant and my middle name for a singer i liked at the time, though now i think my middle name is kind of ridiculous and wish my more reasonable choices weren't shot down by my parents -- if i were cis my middle name stood a high chance of being archimedes, apparently
>>6986336
the ones who ask do so because they don't truly understand dyphoria they're just disgusting fetishists who want to be women when they aren't :^)

>>6986380
oh really? i didn't realize other people's parents did the greek middle name thing. my birth middle name is actually pandora and im thinking of changing it to icarus.

Marc Anthony is gay, right? His music and music videos are pretty straight though. Do people impose this on gay artists? Would it not be profitable to have a music video full of gay men or sing a song about a lesbian romance?

I have heard of one or two openly ftm artists but I think they're all straight.

>>6986418

How often do people change their middle names?

I have a girly middle name but I don't want to change it. Plenty of guys have feminine middle names anyway. Personally, I probably wouldn't change my given name either if more men had girly names. It's a fine name even if it's feminine. Alas, a man with a woman's name gets stared at or laughed at.

>>6986442
im not sure how often people change middle names, but i know i want to change mine just bc i used to go by it in high school and it's got some unhappy memories tied to it

figured as long as im changing names, two birds one stone and all that

>>6986442
middle names are fun and i recommend them
i don't hear much discussion of middle names in a trans context but they're important even if it's only to you

>>6983288
>hippy psuedoscience
more like actual, hard science. there's studies on pumpkin seeds which conclude that they do have an affect, as well as many other foods. it'd be a good idea to incorporate these into your diet (not just seeds) if not now then when you do start T

>>6986717
Merging /femgen/ and /mascgen/ together is a bad idea.

>>6986717
nah, /ftmg/ is quiet but not dead, plus not as gay as the stereotype
/femgen/ is cancer and almost constantly on the first page
/gaygen/ is shit and /mascgen/ is boring

>>6986329
I went from Grace to Grey. I had a name I picked out that I really liked but eventually gave into my family's bullshit about it being too hard to call me something new. So I changed a few letters and that was that.

>>6986418
Icarus is an awesome name. Very stoic and strong. You should do it.
I'm going to call you Pandabear because reasons.

>>6986813
Greywolf the superhero

I want nothing more than to shitpost, but I know it doesn't solve anything.

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>>6986959
Mental stimulation can be a good thing. Sometimes shitposting leads to solution. What do you need to solve?

>>6985501
Yeah, there's a really cute couple in my support group. Good people, both of 'em. One of the few things I miss about that support group, really.

>>6987055
why did you stop going?

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If I have bottom surgery and they take the skin from my arm, does that mean my Frankenstein dick will have freckles?

>>6987121
It's a pretty loosely defined group and a couple members kept making things political. I didn't want to get caught up in the dramatics. I barely have the energy to deal with my own drama, do not want.
Also there were drag queens and that feels kinda weird to me. I mean I get it, but still.

>>6986717

Femgen should just become Genderqueer General since a lot of the guys are not actually cis.

That's it. I've had it.

>>6987973
Nothing that can be fixed.

>>6986369
>goth
>pastels
>"cute"
Are you from Tumblr?

>>6988006
What's your fashion then?

>>6986329
googled "popular baby names 1998" and picked one i liked from the "boys" list

i thought about it for months before telling anyone, though, just to make sure. if my birth name could have been changed to something similar, i would have probably done that too.

>>6986813
shoulda gone with greg.

>>6988278
I know too many Gregs, including a close friend and a first cousin. It'd be weird naming myself Greg even though I hate Grey too.

>>6988129
Can you post a pic of your "pastel" fashion? I've seen you post about it before and I couldn't understand what exactly you meant.

>>6988322
Ah, I see. That was the exact same case as with my first choice. "fuuuck i like this name so much but I know some people with this name, and hate half of them" I had a hispanic buddy in high school named Gracian, i dunno if that has any appeal to you.

test

>>6986504

My 'middle name' is just my mother's surname, as if my parents forgot to put in a hyphen. It really annoys me desu, because my siblings share it too and so I basically have no middle name.
It's something that could double as a gender-neutral first name, too, and I considered going by it in high school, but the fact that I share it with the rest of my family made it seem weird. I'm jelly of people with real middle names, you gotta give a kid options.

>>6988278
>ftm
>Greg
>I'm Old Gregg! I've got a mangina!

That's like a trans girl calling herself Miss Garrison

>>6987122
a freckly peen sounds cute actually

>>6986938
you wouldn't be the first to call me some variation of "panda". it works on multiple levels bc i kinda look like a panda too (short, chubby, pale skin and dark hair w thick framed black glasses)

>>6987122
freckly peen sounds cute, seconded

>>6986813
i actually like that name. not too masc but not too femme either, the kinda name that reinforces whatever kind of person you are. i can see it working for a manly guy or a smaller bookish type. basically, you can be whatever kind of guy you want with a name like that. good choice.

>>6988547
I have no drop of Hispanic or Spanish blood in my veins so I'll stick with my pasty white person name lol. But yeah, picking names is tough because you're bound to know at least one person with the first several names you decide on, unless you're one of those who only chooses bizarre snowflake names.

>>6988824
Thanks, I'm pretty much stuck with it no matter what because my mom has informed my entire extended family as well as all our family friends that I am Grey now. So that's what everyone calls me. I'm thinking of choosing a nickname to go by with friends and to put on my employee nametag because I hear the same stale joke from old people every other day at my job.

>"Why isn't your name Red? You don't look very Grey!"
> [ points at hair ]

>>6987122
yes
and if you have self harm scars you'll get those on your neopenis too
that's what the other donor sites are for

>>6989314
>and if you have self harm scars you'll get those on your neopenis too

tfw scars on all the usual donor sites

(I was leaning more towards meta anyway but dang)

>>6986329
I took my grandfather's name essentially. I was close with my grandparents growing up but my grandpa died of cancer when I was 5. So it seemed like a good way to honor him.

Also I really can't bring myself to pick a name at random just cause I like the spund of it. I want it to have some sort of sentimental value to it.

>>6989686
yeah, i'm of the opinion that meta is the most viable option, although i do kind of wish i could get the 8.5 inch dick that my True Male Self definitely has
but i couldn't exactly put a meta-related image in the op on a blue board

>>6990360
>although i do kind of wish i could get the 8.5 inch dick that my True Male Self definitely has

kek

>hello, ladies, I have an 11 inch (phantom) penis.

>>6990514
me unironically
when i was 15 i hung around /r/bigdickproblems and claimed to be 11 inches

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>>6986329
>went from Olivia to Oliver

I am retarded.
All my friends I've made in stealth mode already know me as this so there's no going back and picking a better name.

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>>6990615

Is it true that T can affect your heart like it does with bodybuilders? Do transmen have a higher rate of heart attacks? What if you have a weak heart or have hereditary conditions? Does T make it worse?

>>6991369
Yes to all of that. It increases the risk of diabetes too. But your doctor will regularly monitor your blood pressure and t-levels, and if you eat and exercise well you'll be ok. Avoid caffeine probably.

>>6991369
it makes your risk identical to a cis man with all the same risk factors as you
not higher than that

sup, /ftmg/
as everyone knows, adult men have M-shaped hairlines and that is not the same thing as a receding hairline
how does one tell the difference between t giving you an M-shaped hairline and male pattern baldness?
how does one treat the former if you have no source of income? not an exaggeration, i live on a strict budget of $0.00 -- can't work because disabled, can't get disability because government is more interested in preventing 'welfare fraud' than preventing people from starving to death

>>6991369
It brings you into male ranges of threat unless you are self-medding or abusing.

>>6991426
>unless you are self-medding
implying you can't self-med a reasonable dose

>>6991424
*treat the latter, not the former
having a high M-shaped hairline (as my father does) might not be an aesthetic ideal but is better than not having hair

>>6991440
I think he meant self-medding with crap cooked up in mexican bath tubs

>>6991481
self-medding generally isn't like that and really isn't dangerous
i don't get why ftm communities tend to be so vocally anti-self-med, the only increased risk is the legal one and that's still pretty small
hell, it's so small that steroid sites operate on the clearnet

>>6991497
>what is fake anavar

>>6991497
>Wrong: The Post

>>6988006

Do you not know what a pastel color is? Light pink, baby blue, yellow, etc. How are they not cute? They're the epitome of cute. Everyone likes bright colors.

>>6991497
Self medding can actually be really bad if you don't regularly have blood tests. It can cause polycythemia. Which can cause heart attacks, blood clots, strokes, and hemorrhages.

Convince me not to try ace bandages.

>tried two sports bras at once
>doesn't do much
>tried a binder
>doesn't do much
>tried a binder + sports bra
>kinda helps

I know all about the dangers of bandages but I'm at my wits end.

>>6991650
How big are your chest tumors?

I painted my nails dark red because Christmas is coming up (in three months but that's close enough for me). I regret it though. Red look too... mature and seductive.

>>6991659

Probably D cups.

>>6991667
Cara, nothing about you is mature

>>6991650
ace bandages aren't actually more successful than normal binding methods and will also fuck with your long-term top surgery prospects -- have you seen pictures of what it looks like when you bind with them? i don't mean the broken ribs pictures, i mean the everyday use pictures
it's horrifying
i've binded normally for almost half a decade and my tits are way less floppy than a few months of ace bandages

>>6991691
bound not binded
i am apparently illiterate today

Would you let a transgirl poke your boypussy?

>>6991713
No. Would you let a transguy poke yours?

>>6991703

Weirdly, 'binded' sounds way more correct to me in this context. It's not, according to google, but it sounds it.

>>6991691
>have you seen pictures of what it looks like when you bind with them?

Different anon, but no. Pics?

>>6991757
can't post it directly because blue board, but:
http://67.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8zbl6CPzw1rxttdjo1_1280.png
i saw it as part of a fuller series of posts circa 2013 but can't find that now
i think in the full series it was mentioned that was after six months of daily use

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>>6991777
Jesus fucking christ

>>6991713
>>6991747
Don't you just mean guys and girls?

>>6991777
jesus

i've been wearing legit binders (underworks and gc2b) almost daily for three or four years and my tits have lost some perkiness but they still look fine

>>6991880
same deal here, though it scares me disproportionately because i was borderline for peri before losing skin elasticity and really don't want to have di
my current plan is to somehow acquire the money to go to nyc (halfway across the world for me) and get the dr elliot jacobs minimal scar surgery, which can be done in multiple stages for borderline cases

>>6991903
How much is the surgery (total) with him?

>>6991777
At that point, why not just skip the nipples and claim burn victim or something for why they're lacking. The placing of those things is insane.

>>6991903
i was scared of DI at first only because of the scars, but silicone strips seem to work really well for scar care. if that doesn't fade them enough i can see a dermatologist for laser or other treatments.

good luck on your journey anon

>>6991920
7.5k usd

>>6991650
I layer two underworks tritops, they bring down my DDs down dramatically.

>>6991960
Does it include the multiple stages? How long is the waiting list?

So, am I just supposed to be upfront to a therapist if I want to transition? I can't figure out how to mention it without it being embarrassing. Tbqh, talking to a therapist period is embarrassing. I hate talking about myself. I want to avoid discussing my issues with others as little as possible.

What do you talk about with gender therapists?

>>6992139
>So, am I just supposed to be upfront to a therapist if I want to transition?

What the fuck else are you supposed to say?

>>6992080
1. no idea
2. no idea
not much information about him desu
he's also a gyno surgeon so i imagine he's pretty busy
>>6992139
seconding >>6992163
you're not going to get anywhere if you don't just say you want to transition
where do you live? advice will vary a lot based on location

i feel like i give about half of all the ftm-related advice on this bhutanese transgender support group and i don't know how to feel about that

>>6992287
Does that mean we should call you daddy?

>>6992314
christ no
at this point i may as well become a tripfag but i'm so autistic i'd get distracted trying to find a cool looking tripcode

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>>6992332

that leafy got me thinking
anyone else thought skrillex is a stealth ftm that just started really really young

i know manlets exist but he's generally odd looking
then again he was singing with a male voice as a teen

>>6983771
>misgendering brooklyn

>>6992139
if you're embarassed write it down and show them
you're gonna look weird but it's better than not saying anything

>>6991497
>i don't get why ftm communities tend to be so vocally anti-self-med
because most people are idiots and you need to have some basic understanding of what you're doing to selfmed safely

>>6991424
>how does one tell the difference between t giving you an M-shaped hairline and male pattern baldness?
easiest method would be document your hairline and see if it's changing constantly or shifted to m shaped and stayed that way

>>6990615
are you that tumblr guy brazillians wanted to load?

>>6989314
>scars from getting bitter by a dog
>get phallo
>look like you tried that peanut butter trick and failed
no zoo

>>6991713
ye

>>6992042
I did that once and got costochondritis lel

I dunno whether to switch bathrooms yet. My therapist says I'm passing but my family is telling me to keep using the women's room. I'm avoiding public restrooms but sometimes I really have to pee when I'm at the store.

>>6992770
Do it. No one asks questions in there they just do their own thing, and your family is probably the last people who will give up the female you.

>>6992770
Honestly I'd use mens when in doubt
You can get in trouble for being a guy in a girls bathroom but not much the opposite way

>>6992770
I wouldn't trust your family's opinion 100%. They've known you your entire life and probably don't really want you to "change" or whatever people always complain about. That, and because they've always known you, they'll still see anything even slightly feminine looking.

People in the men's bathroom don't even look at each other anyways like women do, so even if you look in between, they're not likely to notice. Or you can try to enter a women's bathroom and look at their reactions. I thought I didn't pass either but started getting weird looks at some point.

>>6992807
I've heard of women popping into the men's room when the ladies is busy. And the ladies is always busy.

>>6992801


New thread

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>find a promising looking therapist
>friendly face, kind of "gay mom" vibe
>writes hrt recs, has a trans friendly family practice doctor she refers patients to
>i can easily reach her practice by bus
>she's perfect
>start to call her
>hang up
>phone anxiety
what the fuck

>>6992876
i know your struggle bro

phone anxiety is totally real and crippling

what i like to do for these things is note down the practice opening hours, set my alarm on my day off for like 10 minutes before then and sit there by the phone with a pen and paper after my wakey-wakey shit, so then my head is too bleary for me to get really anxious, but i still have all the tools to get the job done

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>take first dose of effexor
>nausea, headache and mild dizziness all day
That's some fast onset side effects.

Anyone else here used to present as very feminine female not due to trying to fit in and repress but more out of the "i can't get laid so i shall become my own girlfriend" sentiment like the stereotypical 4chan nerd?

My surgeon offers top surgery and hysterectomy at the same time. I know I want top surgery but I'm not sure about the hysto. How should I make this decision?

>>6993301
Recovery would be fucking miserable.

>>6993323
I asked the nurse about the recovery and she said that they do it laparoscopic and that it's not as bad as the open procedure.

>>6991650
Ace bandages are meme tier garbage.

>In danger of becoming unraveled at any moment
>Extremely uncomfortable fabric
> People will obviously notice a bunch of fabric wound around your chest where the ends stick up
>Ace bandages are made to compress further, so if you wrap them around your chest tight enough there's a small chance they can actually break your ribs, which is easier than you think

>>6992770
Honestly, always use the most unbiased source. Unless your family is super awesome they are always going to see you as a girl and tell you to use the womens restroom. If your therapist says you pass, use the mens,.

>>6993267
Yes. It feels weird going from being super feminine, into makeup and shit to probably the most masculine person in my group of friends. Although my friends are giant flaming faggots so that doesn't really mean much, lol. I still do girly shit sometimes.

>mom has been reading concern-trolling TERF garbage since I was a teen
>transition later because of it
>"TERFs don't do any actual damage nowadays!"

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Oh I do hope you have a boyfriend, anon

If you don't

I will be MOST DISPLEASED

Pre-trannsition were you in girly girl mode, tomboy mode, or what? When I see mtf timelines it's usually "Normal somewhat masculine looking dude -> Pretty average rather feminine girl". People like timelines most when they show extremes. Alas, personally, I haven't looked girly since I was in elementary.

>>6993412
Beat mommy dearest.
With a stick.
But honestly, I have the same. Both my best friend and my aunt made sure I knew my place and din't go anywhere near transitioning (never spoken about it but I was painfully obvious transcase. I think it kinda fucked me up too. I used to have severe panic attacks due to people finding stuff I hid, like male clothes and shaving kits. Now I just have bad nightmares.

>>6993421
Hissy fits not allowed. Naughty boys goes to the corner.

>>6992163

I dunno. You make an appointment with the therapist and just talk about stuff?

>>6992287

America.

>>6992770

I avoid public restrooms period. They're disgusting and hype up my social anxiety. The men's room is unnerving honestly. Don't most guys use urinals? So wouldn't the stalls be gross since most guys don't use it to pee? Now that I think about it, urinals don't even have paper right? Ew.

>>6993374

I get pissed that 99% of ftm art uses bandages. I understand it gets the point around more than a normal looking shirt but it's giving people unhealthy impressions.

>>6993438

For me it's usually the opposite, and it seems like everyone goes from prepubescent boy to normal dude. Where are these girly men?

>>6993469

I don't wanna me a femboy but I like expressing myself in feminine ways. I can't do it pre-T though. I wanna look like a man with nail polish and long hair, not a woman.

>>6988006

/co/ has an obsession with goth girls. Emphasis on girls. No one sadly posts boys.

>>6993438
I was pretty damn feminine up until this second round of dysphoria I couldn't ignore. After the first round I went HYPER-feminine. I look back on photos from 3-4 years ago and feel ill.

I try and stick with a "this would be androgynous if my body would cooperate" kind of expression these days. Figure I might as well have fun with the clothes I wear because I put my life on hold way too long at this point, lol.


BTW are we still supposed to sage when we post in FTMgen, or do we let it bump normally now?

>>6993466
>>6993469
>>6993502
Your spacing thing is triggering my ocd. Could you please compact your posts a bit. Forever grateful if you do :/

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>>6993461

MOST DISPLEASED WITH YOU, ANON

>>6993556
Corner! Now!

>>6993466
All art I make related to ftm stuff shows guys having their breasts cut off, like open gaping wounds. Somehow it doesn't sit right with me to show people with binding. It's more like a shameful coverup rather than a correction.

>tfw you were forced to wear a skirt as a school uniform

I can't believe in the 2000s schools still had this stupid rule.

>>6993762

Second. It just makes me think of cosplaying chicks. It's like drawing a mtf in the act of adjusting her balls or something, it just feels wrong. It puts the focus on the birth sex.

>>6993779
right? when i went to school only the most rebellious and slovenly of girls were brazen enough to occasionally turn up in trousers, and it was made out to be this shocking rule-disobeying thing

in retrospect, who gives a fuck and trousers are so much more sensible in so many ways (especially in freezing winter)

>>6993966
Most girls in my school wore trousers as their uniform. Pretty much the only girls that wore skirts were the kind who got pregnant soon as they left school. And that place is just as rough now as the day I left. Good times.

who's going to be the first to take the plunge and try the buck-off

Anyone else consider themselves obviously trans and that the only reason they pass so well is because people don't care about ftm like they do mtf? Trans women get a lot of flak and everyone knows they exist. Trans men however can pass under the radar except around lgbt people. I get nervous around queer people because they can probably tell.

>5'1
>big hips
>effeminate
>round faced
>medium sized hands

I'd be so clockable...

>>6994359
that's how i perceive almost every trans guy, including myself, because my medical transition was delayed past my social one because of political bullshit and i spent the intervening years online looking at pictures of ftms and growing increasingly pessimistic
i suspect the only thing that will save me in the long run is that i 'only' went through about 2/3rds of female puberty and even with that it ruined my hip/shoulder ratio so much t and lifting won't save me
even my cis dad and brother have trans looking hips

>>6993267
I was. When I cut my hair and ordered a binder my mother accused me of faking it for attention.

I'm watching this period drama and, dang, all the men have such glorious flowing hair. They're beautiful. I wish I could have sweet hair like that. Alas I'm black so my hair goes up instead of down, and my hair always comes out dryish when relaxed

That reminds me...

>went to black barber for the first time
>asked for a buzzcut
>he has no clue what a buzzcut is
>just end up telling him to cut my hair short

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>>6993613

DON'T MAKE ME KILL MYSELF

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>>6993412
it's incredible to me that someone can unironically think either terfs or trendscum aren't damaging
both are at the forefront of the detransition wave and the funniest part is trendscum who detrans tend to convince themselves that somehow they were truscum all along so they don't have to own up to it
t. truscum, used to be friends with a 'nonbinary' who was pretty chill and at least theoretically aligned with transmedicalist ideals but always seemed kind of trendy to me, she's now a detransed terf
>>6993466
'america' is vague
my advice is very different in new york city and the mississippi delta
being in the us means you can at least theoretically get informed consent though so that's good and would help you avoid the therapy bit if it's inaccessible
>>6993522
don't need to sage
>>6992413
well, he's a little younger than the oldest underage transitioners (who tend to be around early 30s now)
i came into this trying to find a way to prove you wrong but i just looked at some profile shots of skrillex and i think you're right, shit
i'm documenting my hairline but i'm also a paranoiac and attempting to sense for .1mm changes
trans girls are pretty stupid desu and they've figured out how to self med when mtf estrogen actually does seem to cause an above-cis risk of problems (read: dvt)
also do normies even know about the peanut butter trick

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>tfw 2000s kid
>tfw going to be late transitioner by today's criteria
>tfw too late for me to resemble a biomale (hip shoulder ratio, skeleton, wristlet, skull size, etc.) by the time i get away from my TERF-washed parents
>tfw will become an hero before i become a retarded detransitioned "totally not dysphoric butch womyn"

feels good mang

>>6994774
don't worry, the terfs are going to create a backlash against early transitioners that means nobody born 2010 or later will transition before 25, you'll be an early transitioner anyway

>>6992413
Remember when skrillex used to sing in a crappy emo band?

But no he's def NOT ftm.
He's just really scrawny now.

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>>6995311
we're about a hundred posts from bump limit and we're not going to get into some retard's merger
>>6994927
i'm trying to convince myself it's just shitposting but goddamn is the idea of skrillex being ftm convincing
even pic related isn't convincing me otherwise because i can pull up childhood pictures where i looked like a boy too

>>6994732
>don't need to sage
'kay

there used to be a reminder to sage in the OP and I only just noticed those are now gone, so figured I'd ask since I kept instinctively doing it

>>6992413
>are you that tumblr guy brazillians wanted to load?


kek, what? No, I don't have tumblr.

>>6995457
yeah, now that i'm the one who makes all the OPs i don't see a reason to keep up the saging
which reminds me i really need to make the bottom surgery masterpost i wanted to replace the phallo link with
i'm a lazy piece of shit so i kept putting it off but we're close to bump limit

>>6995457

Different anon, what's the deal with saging? Haven't been browsing this gen very long.

Gendercube's tumblr has a lot of bottom surgery information.

>>6995557
in general or in the context of /ftmg/? in the context of this gen, i suppose it's a vestige from when the /lgbt/ ftm community was pretty different
i started hanging around these parts when i was 16 and the best comparison i can make is that it was like a less tumblrina version of /r/ftm (which i got b& from around the same time kek)
given how much that clashed with /lgbt/ culture they probably didn't want to impose on it much

>>6995577
>know an extremely chill ftm
>they are kind of scared of surgery

They're like 16 anyways so maybe they'll think about it more seriously later in life.

>>6995557
>whats the deal with saging

How old are you?

why is it namefagging

>>6995557
from what I remember it's because people would try and start shit and saging was to make the thread less visible by keeping it off the front page

if that wasn't *the* reason it was at least *a* reason, because I definitely remember a correlation between the thread getting bumped and someone else picking fights/being needlessly rude even by thai knitting pattern forum standards

alright, when it's time to make the next general i'm going to revamp the links. what kind of stuff do you guys want to see there? timelines, passing guides, surgery info, scientific studies, other stuff?
i need to make an imgur album with bottom surgery results and information and i also need to possibly do a couple other things to add there but i'm a lazy piece of shit

>>6995864
Are you the one who tried to 'ban' Brooklyn?

>>6996114
nah
i made trutrans edition and this edition but not any of the previous, and i'm not concerned with brooklyn's actions

>>6992931
Effexor is the only one that has given me zero side effects. Hate to say it but it has been a huge life saver for me with how well it works. But I'll probably be on it for life. It's one of the top 5 SSRIs/SNRIs that have the worst withdrawal symptoms. That freaks me out.

Try something else?

>>6996478
I've been on citalopram and Prozac, neither did much. Might as well power through with Effexor, might stop making me sick and start doing its job. Were you on other drugs before going on it?

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someone painted and sealed one of the windows in my new bedroom shut... i'd be upset about it if the dining room wasn't on the other side of it... who the fuck builds a window from one room into another?

>>6997121
So someone can pass you breakfast in the mornings?

>>6997121
We had a house that was expanded and the kitchen window opened into the new hall

>>6997121

+ this is the other side (ignore the chairs we're setting shit up soon so we can have a party tonight)

>>6997121
maybe the room was built on later? my dad converted a porch into a bedroom and we had a window between it and our living room. it was really funny to me when i was a kid.

>>6997121
http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/16120/is-there-a-more-fancy-name-for-a-kitchen-hole

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>>6997133

my bad...

>>6997125

the kitchen is across the hall though... that wouldn't make anything easier...

>>6997128

yeah looking at it from the outside it was definitely an addition... shit's weird though, and they did a shit job of covering it

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>>6997137

yeah... i just noticed the outside of the building, but i don't get why they wouldn't fix the wall...

>>6997138

oh nah it's not like that, my grandmother had one of those in the apartment she lived in when i was a kid, i used to like jumping through it...

the kitchen is across the hall from the dining room, and just has a doorway to the hall and living room...

I just read that some planned parenthood clinics in florida are offering HRT for trans people. Dunno if they're doing informed consent or if you need a letter.

This is pretty great because I was driving two hours to Ft Lauderdale for my T.

>>6997170

you just reminded me that i gotta fix my insurance shit cuz of the move...

that's cool though, 2 hour drives suck...

>>6997170
all planned parenthoods do informed consent hrt if i'm remembering some tumblr post from 2014 right

>>6997170
>permatropics
How do you stand binding in that heat?

>>6997188
Only some of them did and mostly in the northeast. I'm glad more of them are offering it.

>>6997190
It's not as bad if you grew up here, you are used to it being so hot. But hopefully I won't be binding by next summer.

>>6997190
i live in australia, have abnormal heat sensitivity, and have been binding on a regular basis for almost four years
you get used to it

>>6997190

i imagine it's not bad when you live somewhere for a while... like i have family that moved to florida and now they bitch about it freezing when they visit ny and shit when it's not even close to it... your body just kinda adjusts

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Hi guys. Can you throw me a random male name pls?

>>6997299
Vincent

>>6997299
Tarquin

>>6997299
michael
>b-but it's boring
exactly, it's unidentifiable as a trans name
ftm visibility will be the death of ftm passability and you don't want to be named aiden or skylar when that happens but you also don't want to have a more subtly ftm name like oliver or lucas
if half the males in your family are named michael and that's why you don't want it, pick one of the following:
matthew
peter
jack
nathan
william
james
all common amongst such a wide range of ages and social classes in the anglosphere that you will be fine, but with different enough styles that you can individualize

>>6997299
Gareth.

>>6997362
>>6997375
>>6997382
>>6997459
Thanks guys. Image upload fails me for some reason.
>>6997362
Fpbp. Vincent it is. My sourdough starter will carry the name with pride.

Is Elijah a stereotypical ftm name? I picked it because my brothers have bible names.

>>6997486
it does seem overrepresented amongst our demographic but if the names your brothers have are of a similar style it makes sense
elijah is a very young-skewing name and toddlers have the same names ftms do for the most part
if your brothers' names are along the names of jonah and isaac it checks out but if they're more like simon and john, not so much

>>6997486
If it fits it sits. What are your brother's names if you don't mind me asking? Elijah doesn't sound snowflake to me.

>>6997495
They're James and Paul.

>>6997500
Hi John

>>6997500
well
there are more ostentatious choices than elijah, but if i met a guy named elijah who already pinged my transdar and his brothers were james and paul i would know

>>6997500
You can have Mark or John.

>>6997500

mark, matthew, john, luke, peter, thomas... off the top of my head there's those... joseph, and david too...

In case 4chan dies, anyone know of other ftm forums out there?

>>6997603

+ andrew (surprised i forgot it considering...i'm so used to being called andy this name doesn't exist in its long form to me...), simon, isaac, i'm assuming you definitely wouldn't wanna go with judas... abraham... i actually knew a guy named moses...

Looking for some binder advice. Right now I have a GC2B in small, which is a little too big for me. I've tried the extra-small, but I physically can't get it on. I want to try out an underworks binder next; what model/size should I get?

>>6997486
I think it's a really good name. I do know one trans Eli, but I think it's short for Elias or something. Most people wouldn't think anything of it.

>>6997633
if he's sorta hispanic-looking he could even go with Jesus

>>6997634

i've had underworks for years and recently got gc2b and prefer it over underworks...

i've used xs in both, underworks seems to run a bit bigger (this was my problem with them actually, so that might be good for you) like their xs is bigger than gc2b, but probably not an entire size up (idk though i've only gotten xs binders) underworks is less comfortable though...

i only use the kind that don't go the whole way down... cuz i imagine that shit is crazy uncomfortable and touches too much...

>>6997644

yeah that too...no one would even think twice about that one, though i've only ever met one jesus...

there's a shitton of acceptable, normal, bible names...

>>6995331
Then google sonny moore instead. You'll get your cis male pics

How do you combine long term traveling with T-injections? Can you take shots that last longer or do you have to take vials and needles with you? I can imagine the latter creating hell when crossing borders.

>>6997495
>tfw accidentally picked a name really popular for babies now
its an older name at least, and it was #29 for my birth year, so maybe it's not so bad?

>>6997971
Surely a doctor's letter stating what the drugs are and that you are supposed to have them will be enough to cross borders without too much issue.

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How do you guys jack-off? I'm interested in learning how other FtMs do it.
I'm pre-T and I hump a pillow or just my bed.

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after a bath checking out the view...

someone has a parrot across the street somewhere that doesn't shut the fuck up, it was screaming all last night and this morning... she doesn't seem interested in it at least

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>>6998084

+

>>6998067
I'm thinking more in 3.world countries where a doctor's note won't mean much. Seeing how T is a very controlled substance I'm worried it will become a problem when border guards find vials and don't speak English. It will suck to only be able to travel a few weeks at a time, or have to limit myself to a few countries because of injections. I was just wondering if anyone had experience with it.

>>6998069
I use my packer as an extention/replacement since I can't really handle it 'just' being a vag. Any stimulation happens through the packer.

>>6998084
>>6998086
Birdposting makes me happy. Got any more pics? How are you guys settling in?

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>>6998114

just took one for you... my s/o set up their play area this morning in our bedroom so they can all fly around (gypsy is the only one who can fly in the rest of the house), they're really happy with it...

they honestly don't seem to care where they are as long as they're with us and each other...

and it's been an easy transition for me... spent so much of my life in brooklyn, and the apartment building i'm in is one i've been in since i was a kid...

this is the first time i've lived in this building, but my cousin lives downstairs and has his whole life... so i grew up playing in the hallway and on this block and shit, i'm at the edge of the neighborhood i'm actually from... so i'm familiar with the entire area and shit, so it just feels like i was on a weird extended vacation...

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>>6998129

i think adderall would make me horrible to be around... i can't handle uppers past caffeine, coke was fucking horrible...

>>6998114

+ here's one my s/o just took for me... she couldn't resist the sink while i was washing dishes ... in the last place we lived she wouldn't take a bath in the sink even though it was always her favourite, so she got really excited about it...

>>6997971
>Can you take shots that last longer

yes, you can get a nebido shot every three months

>>6998361
Thanks for pics. Is she doing a come-at-me stance? She looks happy.

>>6998365
Tell me more, kind sir.

I don't get why I can't come out. I've had numerous chances but I always cop out. Be it writing letters or talking face-to-face, I can't do it to my family. My mom even asked me if I felt trans once or twice and I declined. I don't know if I'm a chicken or if it's my brain telling me I'm cis.

>>6998549
Are you scared of change?

http://thejungsoul.com/202-2/

So what do you think of this article?

>tfw mom read it and reverted to thinking i'm a butch lesbian when i'm just an asexual autist

shoot me now

>>6998429

np... i was gonna take a million pics anyway

she just likes spreading her wings and flapping to get completely soaked...

she has been, she seems to like it better here, but it's not surprising cuz our old roommate had too many dogs so she couldn't come out the way she can here... it was annoying and would depend on where the dogs were, which ones were there etc

whereas here it's just our birds and my bro's cat, and they get along... well and our fish, but she doesn't count...

only thing that sucks is i'm desperate to go outside, but my body just won't even kinda cooperate...

>>6998441

i honestly don't count caffeine really... it's mild and different...

i liked uppers when i was younger, like 13 and 14 but at around 15 or 16 bad anxiety hit and i haven't been able to enjoy them since... doesn't help having ocd on top of that... they just make me weird and anxious and too wired and such now

other than coffee and tea i stay away from them now...

i've had coke a couple times... never by itself, it's not my least worst thing i've ever had, but i didn't like it much... i don't know if i'd do it again

i wanna say nah, but if it came up maybe

i like downers personally... and as fucked as it sounds out of everything i've ever taken i've liked heroin the best...

>>6998689

it's not my least favourite* or it's not the worst* pick one, i meant to write either and wrote a weird mess of both... my bad...

>>6998429
testosterone undecanoate, available in the us as aveed

might be more expensive depending on your location

>>6998591
>As a social worker and a Jungian analyst, I have become increasingly concerned about the rush to affirm children’s and young people’s transgender self-diagnosis, and then transition them to the opposite sex
Just another "as a stay-at-home middle age mom with an associates in psychology and no experience working with transgender kids, let me tell why I know better than everyone else," no actual arguments of interest other than 'muh feels, muh childuns.'

>>6998591
overly long transphobic concern trolling

>>6986329
this is shameful but i was at a point when i was really into devil may cry and was desperate to get away from my birthname, so i started having people call me dante and it's just sort of stuck. at least it's a cool name

>>6998707
Thanks. Why does it only need to be taken every 3 months? What makes one type of T different from the other?

>>6986329
I chose something similar to my birthname. I was going to use what my mom would have named me if I had been male, because I think its nice to be respectful of your parents in that way, but I really didn't like the name she would have given me. I don't feel like a Robert.

Why is doubt such a big part of this? I used to have so many doubts about whether I was really trans but as time goes on it's like I'm more and more sure that I am making the right choice and that I'd never, ever want to go back.

>>6998067
Bring prescriptions. Have your do write up a set for you. You should be able to carry up to a 90 day supply.

>>6998933
Like any major life altering decision, there's probably going to be some anxiety. You know now that you made the right choice, so why worry about it?

>>6998933
me too. if i hadn't been able to hear similar experiences of other trans people online, i might not have been able to reconcile my doubts at all. i think a part of it is just that being trans seems so illogical at first glance--there's (usually) nothing inherently wrong with your body, so changing it so drastically can be terrifying. also, habit and social expectations can be stronger forces than you'd think.

>>6998962
Not really worrying about it, more like just wondering.

>>6998992
Yeah, unfortunately. Then again, I'm still not very far yet and there's still a shitton of pressure to stop this "nonsense" and be a girl coming at me from almost all sides.

>>6999010

i take them for recreation and to function...

i started taking oxys when i was 15, my s/o's mom gave them to me... i've taken opiates on/off since then, last time was back in august but i'm probably gonna pick some up soon... idk when i first tried benzos, i've taken plenty but i don't remember a first time or even a time frame for it... just some blurs and points where i've taken a lot of them and mixing them with alcohol and opiates and weed and whatever...

never sold drugs before... stolen them yeah, but never sold them...

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>>6997495
>elijah is a very young-skewing name and toddlers have the same names ftms do for the most part
Is this something one should worry about when choosing a name?
The name I was gonna go with wasn't unheard of in my birth year, but it did shoot up in popularity over the past decade or so.
I like the name and all, but I was worried that it might sound anachronistic, or like a name you'd expect a toddler to have.

(Also, I don't know if it makes a difference, but I'm mtf.)

>>6999179
As long as you pass a name isn't going to clock you. just don't choose something stripperish like autumn or crystal.

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>>6999197
>As long as you pass a name isn't going to clock you.
Ok. That's reassuring.

Also, over the summer I had a bunch of people mistake me for being ~5 years younger than I am, so I guess that's even more reason to not worry about having a young-sounding name.

>just don't choose something stripperish like autumn or crystal.
Don't worry, it's not.

>>6998069
I stroke my cock just like a cis guy would jerk off except I just use my fingertips because of the smaller size. I've had some considerable growth on T though so that probably wouldn't work for you.

>>6998069
>hold small vibrator against clit
>grip vibe and fupa like a tiny dick
>???
>profit

it helps if im watching porn to take my mind off my crotch

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>>6996610
I tried citalopram and Zoloft (?) first. They made me freak out real bad or just sick. If they make you sick tell your dr. I never felt sick on effexor, not even at first. But god forbid you forget a daily dose and you'll feel really awful.

The other meds i take with it are a weak cholesterol med daily, and attivan when i need it. Then just vitamins and supplements. And testosterone shots.

>>6999179

if you pass most people won't notice your name honestly... i've met so many people with weird names i wouldn't notice... i've known chicks with names like jesuina and yarixalez...

>>6999358
We might not have similar responses if citalopram messed with you and didn't scratch me. Though I don't doubt the withdrawal will likely be messy, hopefully I don't forget a dose even though I never usually eat in the mornings which is how I'm supposed to take it.

You old enough to be on cholestorol medication? Thought that was an old man thing.

>>6986329
I asked my parents what my name would've been if things had gone differently and just rolled with that. My second name is the masculine version of my old name, and my third name is Konstantin because I thought it sounded cool. I've had them official for one and a half years now, no regrets and they feel like a natural part of me.

>>6999620
>Konstantin
Historically terrible.

>>6999596
Yeah, and the name I was gonna go with isn't even weird. I was just worried that it might sound "too young" or something.

>yarixalez
Whoa, that one does look really unusual.

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God damn it I just want a cute dude with a baby face and big arms to hold me. I've been craving dick so bad lately.

>>6999658

yeah, she was some hispanic chick i went to school with as a kid... absolutely no personality but her name was memorable...

>>6998591

Total bullshit. I was sticking with her up to a point, but once she says that transition "actually made detransitioners feel worse,zomg!!1!" as if that indicates anything other than "they were never Frans in the first place," I'm done.
Even prior to that, for her to say that socially transitioning creates pressure to medically transition is just ridiculous. It's a lot easier to just say "sorry guys, my bad," than to fucking go through hrt and possible surgeries. What fucking nonsense. I'm not saying admitting one was mistaken would be easy after all that (though of course a good therapist should make their patient feel like turning back is a valid option), but it's fuckloads easier than medical transition.
Also ridiculous is her insinuation that social transition is generally followed by medical transition as a result of social pressure to throw good money after bad (what about all the social pressure to stay as one's births sex?) rather than a result of social transition confirming someone's feelings and comfort as the opposite sex.

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my s/o and bro decided we needed to have a talisman party... i'm way too drunk to even...

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i made the game better...

where are you guys going if /lgbt/ gets deleted?

>>7000321

wherever...

>>6998591
>http://thejungsoul.com/202-2/
Post originally from:
>4thWaveNow
>A community of parents & friends skeptical of the "transgender child/teen" trend

>>7000321

Why would it get deleted?

>>6997188
The one near me used to but there are only two in my state and neither of them do it anymore. They still do HRT just not informed consent anymore.

New thread >>7001079
>>7001079
>>7001079
>>7001079

>>7000983
boards might be up for deletion, /lgbt/ is a pretty popular candidate

>>7001197

Source?

>>7001634
>>>/qa/>>706294

>>6999685
L-LONDON???