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Cocks edition

▶Trans Info Dump: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9KKqP9IHa5ZxU84a_Jf0vIoAh7e8nj_lCW27KbYBh0/edit?usp=sharing
▶ MtF Info Dump: http://pastebin.com/h1vLPxy
▶ Beginner makeup resources: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
▶ Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
▶ Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
▶ Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
▶ Voice Training: http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge (embed)
▶ HRT info: https://web.archive.org/web/0000000000000/http://taimapedia.org/index.php?title=Hormones
▶ Cis women of all sizes to make you feel better about yourself: http://www.mybodygallery.com/
▶ Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
▶ IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg

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>>6830102
First for crippling self doubt
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nth for forever having the body of a weird male/female chimera
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>ANOTHER gayfer edition
*sigh*
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Reposting from another thread because I'm desperate.

I go in tomorrow morning for my first appointment. I'm really scared. What should I ask them for? Or is it all just bloodwork at the start?
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>>6830109
u r a girl retard
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btw that pastebin is dead
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>>6830110
That's because you're here
tee hee!
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>>6830114
http://pastebin.com/h1vLPxyV
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>>6830102
xth for quidchasing
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>>6830109
What a life
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>>6830113
Yes, a girl with a body that got partially wrecked by T, leaving a weird looking blend of feminine and masculine features.
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>>6830109
Same
At least your body is convincingly feminine unlike mine
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>>6830117
fug u

>>6830124
no

conceal don't feel
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that's weird quid normally tells me she hates me by now.
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Good Morning.
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Which of the following applies to (YOU)?
>repressed homo
>reformed furries/otherkin
>poser
>depressed teen
>dadless
>Nu-Nazi
>whiner
>meta-whiner
>autist
>ex-girlfriend
>DeathGrip Fans
>total mess
>computer "wiz"
>underachieving 23 year old
>Art/Computer Science students
>android green-bubble text messagers
>too cool to go to sophomore prom kids
>struggling to hit 170 lb bench-pressers
>poor posture skyrim mod downloaders
>fantasizes about creating some artistic masterpiece and getting money and pussy as a result, at which point their lives will finally take off
>ironic steam profile comment copy-pasters
>actual racist and xenophobes
>fantasizes about being dead and everyone being sad about it
>newegg.com custom PC builders
>rump slumping bumble boys
>confused high schoolers that find nietzsche while trying to get out of an existential crisis
>JV track 3rd place finishers
>kids that got really mad whenever the class laughed at a bad joke
>embarrassing teenage memories shower-reminiscers
>not on Facebook kids
>depressed loners who lucid dream about meeting idols and moving out of their white trash town
>guys who have unashamedly used a girl as a starter-girlfriend without actually liking her very much at all
>never had a girlfriend /boyfriend or kissed yet nevertheless deathly afraid of being cucked
>self-medicaters
>rubber binky baby bumpers
>3.1 GPA kids
>holds on to the high school mentality well into their twenties
>Akira fans
>normal, average guys who liked trump before it was cool and are self-conscious about buying clothes from the GAP
>Berserk fans
>autistic savants with schizophrenia that sit around on their ass all day writing articles for neoreactionary blogs
>fart fetishists
>chronic idlers
>male equivalent of tumblr feminists
>eliot roger sympathizers
>first to be replaced by the coming wave of commercial automation
>wish their idol was their dad
>150 terabyte, self-evolving neural network double backflip off the high platform
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Fuck, I need someone to talk to who I don't personally know, but I don't want to bother anyone
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What should I drink tonight /mtfg/?
Beer, bourbon or bleach?
>>6830110
>not wanting a steady stream of cocks in your mouth
Sounds like you're the gay one
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i kind of want to call of work tomorrow
idk if i can do a whole day shift if im feeling so shit
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>>6830136
i kind of want to hugg grace
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>>6830132
meta-whiner
autist
ex-girlfriend
DeathGrip Fans
computer "wiz"
newegg.com custom PC builders
embarrassing teenage memories shower-reminiscers
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Tfw gay friend is picking me up for 24hrs burritos
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>>6830134
I've got rum, but I'm a chaser so fuck me right.
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How fucked am I?

5'9
Fat

Chest: 37.5
Bust: 39.5
Underbust: 33.5
Waist: 31
Shoulders: 17
Hip: 42
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>>6830137
Good choice, Grace is a good hugger
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>>6830138
IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES
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>>6830133
Smiles#5392 is my discord
Milesthebestguy is my Skype
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>>6830124
>partially wrecked by T
try being fully fucking destroyed by it you fucking cry baby
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>>6830139
Hey Juni.
Thats good ^^
I hope you enjoy.

How's your day been?
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>>6830149
kayla you still haven't taught me how to make friends in Yucaipa
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>>6830127
>conceal
Fine, I'll just pretend I'm happy or something

>>6830149
Aren't you intersex?
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>>6830133
Iktf ;-;
The one person I want to talk to, I can't
And I don't want to bother them with my bullshit anyway
>>6830134
Bourbon
Bleach will be painful
>>6830139
Jelly
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>>6830133
Hayley#5204, if you need.
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>>6830153
n-no i didnt mean that

i just wanna make lani happy ;-;

not feeling kinda works for me, you know, sometimes
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did you know that original transformers were trans friendly? there was a full planet of us!
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>>6830138
>>6830132 here, thanks i instantly feel much better about myself : - )
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>>6830132
>dadless
>depressed teen
>total mess
>underachieving 20 year old
>fantasizes about creating some artistic masterpiece and getting money and DICK as a result, at which point their lives will finally take off
>Berserk fans
What's wrong with Berserk (besides edge)
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>>6830153
>Aren't you intersex?
no
wtf
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>>6830150
HEY! :D
How are you?
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>>6830163
wait, what does meta-whiner and ex-girlfriend mean
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>>6830158
The methods I have to not feel are methods that I'm giving up. Plus alcohol has too many calories.

>>6830165
I seem to recall you posting that your puberty came in syringes.

>>6830172
Whining about whining presumably
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>>6830173
>>6830165
I am learning things about transpeople at an alarming rate.
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>>6830171
I've been better :/
I keep thinking of doing something that'd upset a fair amount of people and I can't seem to get rid of the thought.

Hbu?
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>>6830173
you mean it's not normal to repress your feelings so much that you're not even sure which feels are reals anymore?
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hey y'all
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>>6830132
>>underachieving 23 year old
>>Art/Computer Science students
>fantasizes about creating some artistic masterpiece and getting money and pussy as a result, at which point their lives will finally take off
>unashamedly used a girl as a starter-girlfriend without actually liking her very much at all
do i win?
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>>6830162
really?
>>6830164
what is berserk?
>>6830132
>poser
>whiner
>autist
>death grips fan?
>total mess
>i have an android
>didn't go to proms
>not on facebook kiddo
>yeah depressed loner one def
>everyone self medicates
>schizoshitposter
>:3
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>>6830176
Awww feel better carol.
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>>6830178
Hey.
How's your day been Birdy?
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>>6830181
>really?
No, they just looked like a tranny. But it wasn't really developed so if you want to make it your headcanon the pics will work as evidence.
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>>6830176
What are you fantasizing about? And what do you want to do about it?
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>>6830181
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berserk_(manga)
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>>6830162
>elftranny.jpg
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>>6830189
ur cute
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>>6830183
Thanks Chara : )
>>6830187
I keep thinking of suicide :/

I'm tempted to ask for an earlier therapist appointment or something but I don't want to bother them or take an appointment from someone who might need it more.
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>>6830177
Definitely not. I used to do the same. Then I swapped repressing for numbing. Now I'm not exactly sure how to deal when sober desu.

>>6830175
?
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>>6830192
u r
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Someone shaved my head today with what I assume was a shaver I didn't really see. Two huge swoops, left a lot of blood stains too. I've been crying and making up stories like this to troll girls on other websites mostly reddit all night studying for my masters degree in compulsive story lying.

I'm bored. Great Hummingbird Octopus Dragon told me to go find my eden and bring it with me. Idk what she meant.
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>>6830194
did the feels start flowin pretty badly once HRT started
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>>6830193
You actual idiot, if you're thinking about topping yourself then you need to prioritize you. I'm sure they can fit you in earlier if you explain the situation without too much hassle to anyone else. We'd all miss you if you left Carol.
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>>6830132
>poser
>depressed teen
>dadless
>whiner
>meta-whiner
>autist
>DeathGrip Fans
>total mess
>computer "wiz"
>not on Facebook kids
>Akira fans
>chronic idlers
>first to be replaced by the coming wave of commercial automation
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>>6830196
no
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>>6830193
I'd be really sad if you killed yourself. We love you you know. Why are you contemplating that? What would make that worth it?
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>tfw no Grace to cuddle
>tfw no cock to suck
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>>6830198
seek help
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>tfw have absolutely nothing to contribute to the relevant conversation but like the thread.
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>>6830132
>dadless
>autist
>total mess
>computer "wiz"
>Art/Computer Science students
>android green-bubble text messagers
>too cool to go to sophomore prom kids
>struggling to hit 170 lb bench-pressers
>fantasizes about creating some artistic masterpiece and getting money and pussy as a result, at which point their lives will finally take off
>newegg.com custom PC builders
>kids that got really mad whenever the class laughed at a bad joke
>embarrassing teenage memories shower-reminiscers
>not on Facebook kids
>rubber binky baby bumpers
>Akira fans
>normal, average guys who liked trump before it was cool and are self-conscious about buying clothes from the GAP
>fart fetishists
>chronic idlers
>first to be replaced by the coming wave of commercial automation
>150 terabyte, self-evolving neural network double backflip off the high platform

well shit
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>>6830209
if you don't have anything to say you don't need to post. not trying to be mean just saying.
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>>6830132
>poser
>depressed teen
>whiner
>meta-whiner
>autist
>total mess
>fantasizes about creating some artistic masterpiece and getting money and pussy as a result, at which point their lives will finally take off
>embarrassing teenage memories shower-reminiscers

>tfw you don't even understand some of these
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>>6830201
Yeah, I know it's stupid :/
>>6830205
Well, I have pretty much no life, nothing much to live for, I look like a freak, I act like an autie, I have no skills, I'm pretty sure I'm slowly driving away friends, everything seems pointless, I am a pretty shitty person
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>>6830132
> total mess
> underachieving 23 year old
> first to be replaced by the coming wave of commercial automation
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I haven't been around for like a month or a bit more. What did I miss? Is Dollface oficially back? Is Phien still alive?

>>6830210
>>6830213
did you guys move already? how are the college plans comming? If you end up just working to pay your living remember that it isn't that bad, it's not really different from getting a degree and doing exactly the same.
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>>6830132
>reformed furry, still like cute anime dog girls
>depressed 20 year old, if that still counts
>whiner
>total mess
>Android phone
>embarassing teenage memories shower-reminiscer
>not on Facebook kids
>depressed loners
>3.1 GPA kids
>chronic idlers
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>>6830216
We were gonna sign a lease today but the place turned out to have a bedbug problem so we bailed
I'm going hunting for places tomorrow while Bexe is at work then we're gonna get together and look over the results over coffee and cuddles
I have no problem with working to pay for living in theory, but in practice I have absolutely no attention span and even without knowing that nobody will hire me
I don't remember what things looked like a month ago specifically so I can't really catch you up
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>>6830199
Yeah, but not really the same kind of feels. Pre-HRT it was like intense anxiety all the time, difficulty socializing (mostly due to self-isolation), and difficulty even getting out of bed. Post-HRT I felt way way more emotionally invested in what was going on around me (because no longer depressed), so that led to some pretty strong feels. Also, I hadn't cried in years and I have no idea why, but I was actually able to cry again.
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>>6830193
Whats your steam
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Happy WW2 anniversary day mtfg
how r u?
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>>6830223
God I want to be on hrt so fucking bad..
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>>6830214
Carol trust me I've been there and it gets better if you work on it. Autism is a meme and I don't think yr autistic even compared to the people here. Friends come and go sometimes. It hurts. I want to be your friend till death desu yr very sweet and smart and cute with good morals. Everything feels pointless sometimes.. But your passions will let you thrive again soon. You wanna skype?
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repressed homo
>reformed furries/otherkin
>poser
>Nu-Nazi
>whiner
>meta-whiner
>autist
>ex-girlfriend
>total mess
>computer "wiz"
>underachieving 23 year old (fuck you I'm 24)
>Art/Computer Science students
>android green-bubble text messagers
>too cool to go to sophomore prom kids
>poor posture skyrim mod downloaders
>fantasizes about creating some artistic masterpiece and getting money and pussy as a result, at which point their lives will finally take off (hey. :l delete this. My soul wants to qualify why I can do this and why I'm the exception)
>actual racist and xenophobes
>fantasizes about being dead and everyone being sad about it
>newegg.com custom PC builders
>confused high schoolers that find nietzsche while trying to get out of an existential crisis
>JV track 3rd place finishers
>kids that got really mad whenever the class laughed at a bad joke
>not on Facebook kids
>depressed loners who lucid dream about meeting idols and moving out of their white trash town (hahaha fuck you I live in the suburbs doing this)
>guys who have unashamedly used a girl as a starter-girlfriend without actually liking her very much at all (fell in love no regrets she was amazing and fat and stupid and I loved her soul a lot. She is a whale now...)
>self-medicaters
>rubber binky baby bumpers
>3.1 GPA kids ("b-but A's if I try")
>COLLEGE DROP OUT
>ghost in the Shell addict
>autistic savants with schizophrenia that sit around on their ass all day writing articles for neoreactionary blogs (Hahahhaha I never allowed myself more than a few days of indulging this escapist superiority complex)
>wish their idol was their dad
>150 terabyte, self-evolving neural network double backflip off the high platform
Alright so how do I not kill myself? How do I salvage this? I'm a fucking catastrophe. I have a lot of big ideas. I want to write books make music etc but it's tough. I'm amateur. I'm getting good but I'm old. Ugh. I didn't chase the right dreams.
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>>6830207
>>tfw no Grace to cuddle
I REALLY need someone to hold me rn and tell me everything is okay jesus christ
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>>6830228
Wait scratch the top 4 idk how those stayed. I'm lesbian poster. Not a furry not otherkin not an autist... Okay probably.
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>>6830223
did you start socializing more

that's like exactly how i am right now

;-;
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>>6830229
Everything is ok Jesus Christ.
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>>6830221
Looking for a house to rent is always 50% the joy of just seeing different places you could live in and imagine how being there would be, and 50% the anxiety of having to actually go through with it. It can be enjoyable I guess... Good luck.

I'm assuming that if there's no cool drama that pops up in your head then nothing too bad must have happened.
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>>6830227
Thanks Juni <3
>>6830224
http://steamcommunity.com/id/vickersvimy
Currently can't play anything because my mom's laptop is pretty slow and I can't use my computer cause no monitor.
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>>6830228
>open /mtfg/
>close /mtfg/
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>>6830208
>not being able to see the vision.
>judging

Coward. I'll bet you've never smoked weed out of a crystal ball before. You cheeky judgmental bag of cat fur!
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>>6830229
did you break up already with your real life fling or you're just needy?
did you get a new job? did you learn to pee less?
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>>6830233
Over time I've learned how to socialize again. I'm still not super outgoing, but I can survive at social gatherings and apparently come across well. I don't expect HRT is going to make you a social butterfly, but it puts you in a good position to start doing it more.

>>6830226
Do it anon
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>>6830241
Too similar? I'm out too...
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>>6830141
where's the difference between chest and underbust?
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>>6830236
thank you, jesus
>>6830243
>did you break up already with your real life fling or you're just needy?
I have nothing going on rn.
A few people are interested in me and I'm interested in them but nothing's going on yet.
The real life thing seems to be kinda not panning out? Idk she's become quiet lately and that's not a good thing.
>did you get a new job? did you learn to pee less?
Yes and no.
>>6830250
Chest is ur boobs
Underbust is under ur boobs
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>>6830248
i dont wanna be this way anymore lani :(
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>>6830250
my bad disregard what i said i was wrong
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Do any of you girls live somewhere wild like Maine/northern Michigan/Alaska? what's it like there?
I'm bored and i wanna live somewhere like that. I probably won't though cuz my bf just moved here to be with me a few months ago. I don't know what i would do there anyway.
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>>6830251
>she's become quiet lately and that's not a good thing.
you're supposed to interact with the people in a relaitonship with you and help them be better instead of bail out when you don't know what's going on.
somehting you don't learn from ldr.
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okay i should go to bed

goooooooooodnnnnighhhtttt!
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>>6830259
there isnt much i can do when i send someone a ton of messages and get no response
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whered cutetrans go
linkpls
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>>6830259
this 100%
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>>6830237
the drama is implicit in the units available for our price range

>pay 1k for a bachelor/1br likely-to-guaranteed infested with bedbugs and/or roaches
>pay 1.2k + hydro + electric heating for a large but shifty 2br currently leased by what appears to be a crackhead
>pay 1.4k+, +hydro, for an actually reasonable apartment
>pay n and live 2h each way from school and work
>pay sub-1000 for a literal bedroom in someone else's shared unit, and they probably aren't ok with trannies, or don't allow pets, or are visibly controlling from how their ad is written

all i want is to fall asleep with her and wake up to her cute sleeping face and make us coffee before she wakes up without losing an unfair amount of money or time or privacy, but apparently that's too much to ask from life
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>>6830253
You don't have to be, you won't be like this forever. Eyes forward nim

>>6830260
And goodnight
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>>6830258
give motivatinal presentations for people who failed their suicide and ended up chinless. they don't need to know you're not actually one of them. :^)
but really, why would you even one to go there?

>>6830261
messages aren't the end level of something that's happening irl, I get that if you can't meet someone it's as personal as it gets but for normal people it's quite lazy. you break up with people that only try to contact you that way.
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Girls, should I stop being friends with this guy I know? He's recently been mocking me for being trans lately, even though I constantly fucking help him with IT stuff, even the most basic stuff of extracting things for Skyrim mods, and I just can't take it anymore. He was also a Ted Cruz supporter, and called my mother a whore when he found out she had had an abortion after I was born.
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>>6830255
but you were right? chest is boobs?
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>>6830268
Cuz it looks nice and rugged and interesting. I'm just really bored.
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>>6830270
Sounds like an autist, those are cute sometimes. Bully him to correct his behaviour.
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>>6830270
He probably wants to fuck
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>>6830264
yeah, renting sort of sucks.
do you have to pay some sort of advance or safe deposit or something like that? I've seen some people here that pretty much just go there and start paying each month, I envy that freedom when I have to pay what I need to live for a year before signing anything.

>>6830270
He sounds pretty fucked up, was there a reasson to be friends with him in the first place? you make it sounds pretty much as if he were using you, but I don't know if you're omitting the good parts.
Have you tried telling him that he's sperging big time?
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>>6830268
Look I am broke
I do not have a car
I have to take an uber to see her
She refuses to pick me up even though she has a car and could at any time
I can't just show up at her house any time things get weird
I think she's just been more focused on WoW lately than anything
Still I'm very needy and cant deal with not really talking for a few days.
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>>6830270
Secretly rub your cum on his belongings. Wait, don't do that. Hmm... Slash his tires but hire black kids. Hmm...throw a handful of burs onto his leg. Cut his keyboard install a virus. Leak his nudes. Get married adopt a kid divorse ruin his life. Take half his money. Donate to the church of GhOd. Burn his house down for insurance money.
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>>6830275
it's not much more fun just being somewhere else. can't you just do more fun things in your city?
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>>6830270
Stop talking to him or bully him back and stand up for yourself
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>>6830270
>that
>"friend"

>>6830278
>sort of
no need to mince words anon

also any half-decent place asks for first+last month's rent up front here, which is fine but annoying and sets us back for actually furnishing whatever damn place we can land
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>>6830264
It's not like the crackhead's subletting...
it is a fair bit out of our price range though
I found a place that was 1150+Hydro and seemed spiffy, but I didn't mention it to you on account of the price
>>6830237
I think she meant other drama, too? On our end there's also the fact that living with my folks is driving me batty...
Other than us though, I think maybe isla broke up with her gf in that time? Might've been old news and I found out late, though
>>6830278
It's usually first+last month's rent here, which I guess gives us a little flexibility but not a ton. Better than having to pay for a year upfront, though I'm guessing some leases come with an early termination penalty? I've never seen one, though
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Grace should choose her partners better.
Or stop wanting so desperately to be in a relationship.
Ok back to WoW.
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>>6830279
don't you have a common pace to meet her? friends in common or something?
in the end if it doesn't make you happy and you just worry about it, the best course is to foreshadow a little and then break it up.
Also, I don't mean to be a bitch, I just have a hard time dealing with relationships that don't start face to face since it's a rarity where I live.
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>>6830287
Moooooooooom
I don't desperately want to be in a relationshipppppppppp
But I'm trying to choose partners better
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>>6830281
I just want a change of scenery. Maybe just for a couple months or something.
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>>6830288
It's an ldr where we live 40 minutes apart
By my standards that's real life because everything else has been states or more.
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>>6830277
Doubt it. He's also said that "All human lives are worthless." It's insanely edgy, but then he goes and makes his Skype and Facebook icons Blue Lives Matters photos after the cop killings in Dallas.
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If a cis male yells at me to go back in the kitchen, should I take it as a complement?
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>>6830284
>>6830285
first-last month isn't that much. where I'm living right now they accepted an IOU and that's strange, but they still asked 10% of the total rent for 2 years as expenses for the company making the deal. just renting from someone is virtually non existant in my city, I've only heard of two people who got that. and our early termination only applies for the first year, but since the prices tend to rise faster when no one is renting the place unless you want to upgrade after getting a new job I don't see it happening.

In terms of sallary, what percentage much would you be spending in rent? just reading money amounts doesn't say much to me, for U$S1K I could rent a three bedroom house with a backyard or probably more but it's three times what I need to live each month including my current rent and services.
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>>6830296
That person doesn't have a cohesive world view. Probably very young or very average intelligence and easily manipulated. Some people join ISIS. He probably really means it and you should steer clear.
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>>6830297
You should tell him to get back in the garage or wherever men stereotypically work
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>>6830304
What if he's a fag? "Where do they belong besides hanging from trees?" - Southern White people.
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>>6830287
>Grace should choose her partners better.
most people should

>>6830293
how about just saving up and getting vacations?

>>6830295
but you don't have common spaces, so it's kind of weird. the idea of needing a car to meet someone is a but baffling to me, all my life I've been fine with public transportation.
You should meet people entirely based on the bus routes at your disposal :^). Or pick up someone at work.
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>>6830297
no. you're either offended by him being a jerk or you are aroused because you like a sub/dom relationship and make him a sandwich.
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>>6830297
Pretend to be offended while hiding your blushing face. That's what I do.
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>>6830311
I wouldn't mind being in a sub relationship where sandwichs are included. I'm assuming he's buying the bread, tho.
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>>6830306
Salons desu
>>6830308
Yeah I dunno I was just asking if anyone lived there and likes it. I'll talk to my bf about it and see if he's interested.
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>>6830313
same.
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>>6830303
He's 20. I told him directly on Facebook "I won't help you install any more Skyrim mods until you tell me why you've been insulting me lately for being trans." and that really pissed him off.
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>>6830318
lol
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>>6830318
>I won't help you install any more Skyrim mods until you tell me why you've been insulting me lately for being trans
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>>6830318
>and that really pissed him off.
it sounds like a cliffhanger line for a police investigations tv show, you need to follow it up with something.
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>>6830323
Why should I help him? He's been insulting me, and I don't like it, I don't have to help him if I don't want to. Even he wasn't insulting me for being trans. I've been transitioned for 2 years anyway.
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>>6830323
real human drama in there
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>tfw when you pay a girl you met a bar 70 bucks to cum on her stomach while she pretends to be your teenage sister
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>>6830328
seek help
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>>6830324
He just told me "You help me install these now, or I tell everyone you know you're trans." and I was like "They already all know."
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>>6830326
the skyrim thing makes it so vanal that it's funny.
if you had said
>helping with your computer
then it would be fine
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>>6830326
you're right and it's good that you confronted him. if he doesn't apologize AND changes break off contact with him.
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>>6830330
why and how is he a friend?
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>>6830329
>implying you even have 70 dollars
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>>6830330
What a piece of shit. You should probably drop him.
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>>6830329
she's already doing it, didn't you read the post?
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>>6830340
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>>6830337
this so much!!
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>>6830337
Forgiveness is the answer my child. Embrace him and the hormony of the universe will be restored and we can chant a rebellious tune together while we are young.
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>>6830330
I'm having a hard time believing this is real honestly, this guy sounds like the worst ever

i mean i understand not bothering with explicitly cutting off ties, though it's time to do that too, but why would you be going out of your way to help him at all? especially with shit like skyrim mods lol
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It's fucking suicide, I swear to go outside!
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>tfw learned economic values of trade and commerce from runescape.
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>>6830130
whatttt

i don't think i've ever said i hate you specifically

just chasers
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>>6830301
Part of the problem is that all my money's from student loans, and they haven't come in yet so I have no idea what I'm getting on my end. They did agree to consider me as separate from my parents so that should increase the value, but to what I can't say.
A little napkin math indicates she'd be making... a touch over 1600 a month post-taxes, I think? Never was much good with napkins though, so that could be a bit off
Of course, we'd both need metro passes which is another ~$235 a month total, then however much electricity is, food...
>>6830330
You should not be spending time with this person, frankly
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>>6830347
I used to like him, not in a dating way, but, I thought he was cool for a bit. Then I started helping him install Skyrim mods about a year ago, and he just became much harsher. The guy doesn't know anything about extraction, or paths, or how to install anything that's not from an executable. I told him this
"Apologize now, and stop insulting me for being trans, or I stop being your friend, and, you'll have no one to go to when your computer inevitably gets screwed up."
No response yet. But, according to FB, he has seen it.
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>>6830354
I have a solution

Message him "have a sad cum bb" and then block him

pls
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>>6830354
the threat sounds a bit silly, it would had been more mature just to tell him that it bothers you and he should stop. if he doesn't then drop him. you don't get anything from threats.
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>>6830354
Youre treating him like a child.
Why are you friends with a 20 y/o manchild?
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>>6830354
just delete him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM9ESD-XRJg
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>>6830357
>>6830360
He still has yet to respond, but knowing him, he'll just poorly spell out "fuck you". If he does, I'll remove him.
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>>6830360
I want to make this my ringtone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzxyvY3gHIg

>>6830366
why bother starting that discussion then? you could had just told him that he bothers you and stop talking with him. Always take the high road.
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>>6830356
ive seen you give this advice three times now and i dont know why its still so funny
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>>6830366
Well, literally only 3 seconds after I typed that out, he tells me this
"I don't have to apologize for shit, suck my dick."
Told him "Goodbye then." and removed/blocked him.
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>tfw shaved and super smooth all over
>suddenly craving cock
Why must I be so agp.
And wheres a chaser to shove his disgusting cock down my throat when you need one.
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>>6830376
you're just needy, a lot of ciswomen and some cismen touch themselves while masturbating. if you are already pretending to have sex you might as well pretend to be groped by someone, I guess.
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>>6830370
I'm so happy people caught up with the joke and started screaming the obsolete.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUVn-s3QTFs
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>>6830380
Tell me more...
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>>6830376
Maybe the solution would be to stop shaving and being smooth?
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Getting estradiol is kind of out of my budget right now, might be a few months or more. Can I start with just spiro, and what physical changes would I expect to see only taking that? And what dose is recommended.
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>>6830386
wew lad
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>>6830385
you could invert that pic so it looks at the comment.
there's nothing more to say. it's not such a weird thing as agp fans seem to think, not as common as porn though, but I've seen it and heard it mentioned as normal but more than a few girls.
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>>6830387
People will tell you its dangerous, I've been on spiro for two months before starting E for various reassons and I didn't get any heavy side effects. Flannel has her horror story but that's two years, it's not the same; and the long time issues like bone density don't appear in a few months.

Depending on your natural levels you might start getting some results, only if you had pretty high E from the get go. If not there are no effects in a few months just from not having T in your body.
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>>6830389
You explaining things to me was just making me hot is all.
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>>6830386
>tfw neovags are better looking than the ones from fabric a good amount of the time.
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>>6830395
oh, I'm sorry, it's just that people being dense isn't rare here.
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>>6830385
see how bad she looks with the wrong clothes. it's really hell to pick the right thing...
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>>6830387
>>6830393
being on an anti androgen for a year or a little less is dangerous because of osteoporosis. two months isn't a problem. you won't see any physical differences though. no testosterone means you'll feel less energetic and are more easily tired.
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>>6830393
Is there a benefit to just taking spiro at all? Or would it be more worth it for me to just wait until I can afford spiro and estrogen.
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>>6830375
you did good, girl.
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>>6830404
it does stop T effects, and it takes a while to start acting so you migth as well start.
things like balding and other growing you have left to do will eventually stop.
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>>6830400
She looks fine there so I dont know what you're getting at.
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>>6830406
I'm 21 so I don't know if I have any growing left to do.
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>>6830400
>>6830385
>googling her
>tumblr link
>see this
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can i be the new chaser trip
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>>6830372
Funny? This is serious business

>>6830375
Proud of you, but you really should've messaged him have a sad cum bb first ;_;
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>>6830407
she looks like a hon

>>6830410
yes, you do.
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>>6830413
Just be nice and treat the ladies well.
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>>6830416
they don't call me "The Mike Man" for nothing, baby

im a class act
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i slept too much
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>>6830413
>>6830418
transition when?
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>>6830418
I wuld assume they call you that because you only date guys named Mike.
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>>6830415
What dosage should I start with then? I'm 6'2" (kill me), if that matters.
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>>6830419
IT'S TOOO LAAAATTEEE
>>
Chest 42
Waist 36
Hips 46

Is this good?
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>>6830424
yeah it is
i missed my mones
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>>6830420
>>6830421
hey please dont make fun of me
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>>6830423
the rec is starting with 100mg for a week to see if you're alergic and the upping it to 200mg and taking a blood test every month for a little while to see where you stand and if you're doing good.

>>6830425
sounds okay

>>6830426
considering how long they take to start having an effect I'd say a single day off won't make a difference.
you're still detransitioning, tho
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>>6830419
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>>6830428
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>>6830419
hey kiwi
>tfw you and the rest of mtfg never went to the same school as anime girls
at least we can be anime girls together and get burgs and pizz
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>>6830429
when i miss them by a few hours i just take them when i wake up and then take them 11 hours apart until i get back to my original time
so i guess it's not bad
>>6830430
yeah it was
>>6830434
hi
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>>6830426
just take them, thats what I do when I sleep past 7am
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>>6830436
well, when I miss then I just take them at whatever time I remember. But I don't worry too much about my health anyway. That 11 hour system sounds like a pain...
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>tfw you stick mccree on the top of his hat

tracer is basically a giant troll, i love it. i'm really enjoying learning how to play her, but she is so much harder than genji to me lol
like genji is supposed to have the highest skill cap in the game but i've put in 140 hours on him at this point and like 40 on tracer...
...and i am nowhere near as good with her as i was with genji at 40 hours....like NOWHERE near.... rip
also hi hru
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>keep making vague trans jokes to a online friend who doesnt know
>somewhat flirt too
>he makes trans related jokes on his own sometimes
I dont know what to do.
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>>6830437
i did
>>6830438
i just obsess over having estrogen in my body at all times
so i can't just wait until the next time y'know
i get really depressed if i do it that way
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc7kk0IdmrY
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>>6830430
we have been over this, sleep isnt the problem its waking up to the nightmare that is the problem
sleep is sweet release
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>>6830441
I meant I take them as soon as I can, and then the next one at the intended hou. If anything I have extra E, that can't be bad.
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>>6830441
>i just obsess over having estrogen in my body at all times
http://www.strawpoll.me/11128826
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>>6830442
she's cute
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>>6830449
I've done it but I selfmed and I'm poor.
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Does waist training work? I want a better figure.
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>>6830451
yeah like, I mean you shouldn't waste it I just find it funny in the moment how you panic and dash for it
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>>6830452
ufufufu says it does, normal people laugh at the idea. I'm on the second camp.
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>>6830454
you are right it doesnt work at all
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>>6830456
It does sort of work while you're wearing it, but bones aren't made of jello.
>>
skip to 6:39 if you wanna get rock hard
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>>6830460
yes, you are right again
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>>6830442
Are eyebrows that make you look always surprised a good idea?
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>>6830462
*skips*
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>>6830462
meant to quote >>6830442
skip to 6:39 if you wanna get rock hard
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i am so sick of the thread being dead
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>>6830463
that doesn't look good for your organs... just do some ab work and be happy with what you have.
do you think turning your body into that would make shitting easier or harder?
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>>6830463
that looks like it kinda works
i've heard it works temporarily
but if you can't keep up with it your figure goes back to how it was before
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>>6830463
I like the upper pic much more than the lower one.
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>>6830470
>believing cheap pictures on-line
why would you ever do that?
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>>6830470
yeah they do return to normal over a few weeks/months once you have gotten it where you want it

>>6830473
liar
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>>6830476
the lower one looks like a caricature, it's kind of freaky. the upper one looks really kissable.
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>>6830476
so it's no different than hormones
you just have to keep up with it
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i hate shaving
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>>6830454
It worked for me, but I had to stop before SRS and it came back to normal over a month. So I'm not sure whether I'm going to commit to doing it again yet.
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>>6830484
you're simply crunching your organs until they go back to normal.
if you're willing to hurt your body like that you might as well duplicate your E dosage and take 5g of P since that will both make you more femenin and wreck your organs.
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sorry
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>>6830489
as long as you know it's your fault it's all good
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>>6830487
>cant even spell feminine
why should anyone give a shit about the opinion of an illiterate with bad opinions?
I bet you're a hon who cant stand seeing young transitioners get ahead
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>>6830487
My body is old. Past a certain age, working out, which I've already resumed, isn't a silver bullet anymore. It's much harder to get results that don't look ugly.
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>>6830490
it is literally 100% my fault
i cause too many issues
i went to use the bathroom and my mom was crying
she was crying because of me
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>>6830494
uh oh what happened
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>>6830492
if you're a young transitioner shouldn't your body usually be good enough that you don't need to waist train
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>>6830492
I'm not exactly a young transitioner, you know. But that also means I have a pretty good idea of what I'm doing.
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>>6830496
because i'm so fucking problematic.
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>>6830492
What does young transitioned entail these days
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>>6830492
ESL, some words escape me some times. Aunque no es muy madura la idea de ignorar la opinión de otros porque le pifian al teclado, que se yo.
You didn't answer my point, though, how is it different? How are you getting ahead by having your organs crunched? Your bones don't become smaller, no matter what you do. Getting a nice job or having nice people around you that respect you as trans or directly see you as a woman and don't question it would be much better ways to go.
And I was answering CFH, if I were older than her I would be an icon here.

>>6830493
Do you really think that something that puts your body in unnatural stress, even more the same year as a big surgery, is a good idea?
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>religion of peace
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/08/31/couple-brutally-attacked-ham-pizza/
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>>6830502
>kikebart
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>>6830500
Started before 12, went full time before 13.
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>>6830504
: <
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what color are your nipples?
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>>6830507
pink and my areola are white
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>>6830507
light pinkish
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>>6830501
SRS wasn't as harsh as I expected, really. I thought I'd be bedridden for weeks and I ended up having six hours walks in Bangkok from day 9 after surgery on. I guess I'm still tough, more than I thought. What might weigh against my resuming waist training is that a good corset doesn't really mesh with casual clothing even when worn under, not potential organ stress.
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>>6830507
dark pinkish
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>>6830512
I remember an old full body pic of you next to a citroen 2or3CV, I don't think you need to do much more than keeping up to look your age or a bit younger.
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>>6830507
Puce.
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>>6830514
>>6830512
(considering that it was a pre-hrt pic)
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>i wanna cuddle
>no one to cuddle with
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so uh
whats a good way to get to sleep after crying a bunch
my head hurts
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>>6830514
That pic was literally taken in another century, though... Here's a more recent one with a back brace on. I've unfortunately gained significant weight from quitting tobacco since this pic, though. Working on losing it.
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>>6830517
ask your roomie
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>>6830518
>ywn wipe away grace's tears as u rock her to sleep
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>>6830518
Cuddling with me.
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>>6830518
Get some water into you little one.

It'll reduce the headache.

Hello everyone!
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>>6830518
usually crying helps you sleep. if your head hurts you might have low pressure, drink some tea or eat a little bit of salt.
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>>6830518
i drink until it all goes away.
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>>6830517
cuddle me fampai
offer ends in a week
>>6830518
you don't sleep
you try and you fail like me
i woke up
and just started crying again
i give up desu
just gonna wait for nipponfaye to get online from briitland to chat
maybe then ill sleep who knows
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>>6830519
that makes your waist look creepy, not sure how it looks with clothes on.
i lost a bit of weight after starting smoking again and I actually dislike how anna I look, I really need to quit even if just to look less skelly.
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>>6830523
Hey, how are you doing? I've been away fro a while, did you start hrt already? how's that working?
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>>6830520
Most of them are dudebros so nope
>>6830526
Ill book plane tickets then
Gonna cuddle you softly
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>>6830528
I'm on Cypro now, and I have progy on my shelf, but... there's a few complications. Namely that I'll need an appointment for a prescription before I can start taking it without getting kicked out of the house, which I wouldn't survive, considering I'm having to pay for medication, and have no income at all, let alone one that is stable.
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>>6830530
just cypro and P? you know E is the vital part, right?
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>>6830532
Progynova is E.

Though I wouldn't mind getting progesterone, it sounds fun.
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>>6830522
That would help a little bit.
>>6830521
i got the tear wiping thing down
>>6830524
its like
stuffy really
not pain
>>6830525
i wish
i think im gonna do a xanx
>>6830523
gonna go water too, i gotta take my hormones
>>6830526
>you don't sleep
>you try and you fail like me
i hope xanax can help with that otherwise im not getting to sleep for a long fucking time tonight
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My gay buddy is the only one I can talk about boys with
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>>6830534
>i gotta take my hormones
SHIT I KNEW I WAS FORGETTING TO DO SOMETHING THIS MORNING!
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>>6830529
if that's what you want.
i don't mind
^^
>>6830534
i slept for like
2 hours
woke up and started bawling my eyes out
every single dream is the fucking same
every single night the same fucking dream
i don't know how much longer I can take this
i need benzos to sleep again i think
im gonna ask my doctor about it
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>>6830533
I somehow read it as a cute way of saying progesterone. How long are you planning to go with just AA?

>>6830534
>its like
>stuffy really
>not pain
drink some tea, sugar is good for you.
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>>6830534
Hope you get some sleep and wake up feeling great~
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>>6830518
Just drink until you black out
>>6830507
Pink
>>6830502
We will be seeing more of these
>>6830500
Womb
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>>6830534
Wanna talk about it champ?
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>>6830523
Hello!
>>6830534
I'll second water
I tend to find that when I have trouble sleeping being slightly warmer than usual helps a bit
Cuddling sounds pretty great too though I'm guessing it's not an option
>>
tfw realize that I have to choose between being ugly and possibly not passing and questioning my gender and possibly strongly regretting not transitioning now

tfw might just be a crazy degenerate and be imagining everything
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>>6830543
i fucked things up with the best friend i've ever had over the course of the past few months
and now i have to say goodbye to her for a while because she justifiably needs space from me
it hurts
a lot
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>>6830539
Ah...


Well it can take around 6 months to get an appointment with the endo, but fortunately I know him

Unfortunately I think he's going to stop me until I get my diabetes back under control.

So I could be waiting 3 months, I could be waiting a few years.

At least I don't have as much test in my system now....

>>6830545
Hi, hello, salutations!
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>>6830538
Imma hold you and tell you how everything is gonna be fine
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>>6830546
being a degenerate isn't a real issue.
If you're one then just accept it and move on with the rest of your life, if you don't like the idea of being one then you aren't one.
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>>6830547
Are we talking about Portland or Chicago here?
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>>6830549
i
i wish reality were like that
i don''t think
things are gonna be fine
i'm so terrified
i don't know
ahh im sorry..
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>>6830548
Remember flannel's horror story about what years without sex hormones does.
On the other hand, I don't know, I would 100% chose to be misserable without T than misserable with it.
You should really get your diabetes in check, as just a basic health thing. Would it really take that long to get back on track? Why did you fuck it up so hard in the first place if that's the case?
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>>6830552
Portland.
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>>6830546
i personally would much prefer the first outcome than the second. it really doesn't get better with age.
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>>6830553
No dont apologize
I really wish i knew how to make you feel better
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>>6830548
Why is it out of control, if I may ask?
>>6830557
Anyone care to tell that tale? I know osteoporosis can happen but that's about it
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>>6830523
what is that pic of
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>>6830550
Degenerate is a poor word choice
What if I'm making up dysphoria now that I'm considering transitioning
For some reason it's only now that I'm actually admitting I might be trans that I'm straight up shaken by being too masculine to ever really pass, whereas before it was only a little weird but I didn't let it get to me

What if I'm just being crazy and not "really trans"
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>>6830102
Huhu, hows everyone?
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>>6830548
if you tell him you're self medding and not stopping he should support you. it should be way to dangerous to let you go on your own while your diabetes is out of control.
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>>6830561
she wasn't allowed to take E because she was a teen and Australia is weird. After starting she realized that she was able to be happy and was numb for years without realizing.
Sexual hormones stabilize your mood and are important for a lot of secondary things too besides forming bones.
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>>6830560
i apologize because i feel like i've wronged you by being a potential stresser or causing you to care about my existence even if in the slightest
its okay i
i don't think i can feel better without drugs now
i just
i don't know im so fucking terrified of everything, and how i have an effect on people. it sucks so much that people care about me why can ti just disappear and
idk
surprised you can even slightly put up with me
>>6830566
usual.
you?
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>>6830559
Yeah but
No offense
Not many people here are satisfied with themselves even after transitioning, so what if I end up miserable either way
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>>6830565
there's no fake dysphoria, I can't even imagine how that would work like.
some people get that idea from not feeling it 24/7 (even though no issue is present every single second of your life) or because they didn't feel it as children (even though you didn't have any motive to feel less feminin before a certain point).
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>>6830570
>Not many people here are satisfied with themselves even after transitioning
Not many active posters are finished transitioning.
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>>6830558
Well I dont really know what to tell you.
You knew there were questions before heading there but once you were there you seemed to be fine. I dont really know any of the details beyond you two breaking it off.

You need space just as much as her so give yourself some time and dont do anything that would push her away any more. Transgirls be crazy yo.

My advice and or calming words cease to be good after 3 am.
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>>6830527
The brace is something I'll have to wear again, though. I have a bad case of kyphosis I can't leave unchecked or I'm going to end up a real hunchback.
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>>6830570
not a lot of cis people are satisfied with themselves, I'd say very few 4channers are.
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>>6830569
P gud. I think i noticed some changes from E i hadnt before, but maybe im still seeing just placebos.
But it makes me happy(er).
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>>6830558
WAIT WHAT
You moved to Portland? How are you dealing with that? How did you manage to find a house? How is that working?
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>>6830557
>>6830561

That's a surprisingly easy question to answer.

Firstly though, the prozac seems to counter the T supression really well in terms of depression, but... well. If it does come down to it I'll start taking the progy and to hell with the consequences

I would honestly like to fix my beetus though. Partly because it'll help with my diet, and help me stop snacking all the time. Which also answers that second part of why I fucked it up.

Needless to say, I feel like a fucking moron for doing it, but I messed it up in part because I wanted to kill myself and damage my body. I was not sane in the slightest, and didn't have access to anti-anxietals. In any case I messed it up, and then it formed into a vicious cycle.

>>6830563
Look up slugbox's tumbler.
I think It's aweful slug monster?
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>>6830579
hey thats good
glad you can feel better
maybe some day i can follow in suit
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>>6830141
Could be more fucked

6'2
Fat

Wide shoulders
large ribcage
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>>6830569
You shouldnt worry about others as much as you do
Youll just feel worse if you keep thinking youre affecting people negativly
Your a great person and you deserve to be cared for, never forget that
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>>6830570
What Grace said, plus... well, 4chan is not exactly the happiest place in general. I mean, what kinda people sit infront of the PC all day? Yeah.

>>6830582
Isla tell me whats wrong? :(
Anything i can do to make you feel better?
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>>6830568
Interesting... I guess between my low mood pre-everything and the low blockers-only duration I wouldn't have noticed something like that
>>6830570
I'm not satisfied with myself, but transitioning was a step in the right direction for sure, at least for me
>>6830581
That's really bad... but I'm glad you're trying to fix things now
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>>6830575
I could tell you if you got yer ass on Steam, mum.
But yeah
I probably do need space
It fucking hurts though
It really, really hurts.
It's hard to live without your best friend, your big sister, the girl you've relied on so much and talked to so much.
>>6830580
I didn't move there. I took a trip there.
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>>6830577
>>6830574
I guess
I have a trans friend who has/had body dysmorphic disorder despite transitioning young and passing and being cute and she was tormented by her own self perception
I'm not even going to come out as good as her if I transition, so where does that leave me
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>>6830581
It's not a matter of depression as much as emotionless, because you are missing the part that makes your emotions work. Just like teenagers get terribly emotional because they have too much hormones, having none leaves your body with no fuel to create them.
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>>6830141
not even bad
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>>6830588
It's a matter of making things better more than good or right.
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>>6830584
i really don't feel great
at all
lemme try and explain
if i focus on my emotions and focus on my feelings i only get sadder and sadder infinitely, its a cycle that never ends. Whenever I make an effort to live for myself and think about myself it always goes over poorly. I'm not worth it to myself.
>>6830585
eh lots of things
and
nope
sorry
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>>6830141
>Chest: 37.5
>Hip: 42
you're okay, stop complaining.
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>>6830587
Probably shouldnt have gotten into a more physical relationship with someone you look up to so much and stayed just friends instead.
Not trying to be mean just you know.. advice.
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>>6830586
Well, I'm not going to claim that I'm working hard on it.

Part of the problem is I formed a habit of eating in response to stress, and with the environment that I'm in...

Yeah. It won't be easy.

>>6830589
Not a new thing for me.

I don't think I went through a moody teenager phase. I just shrunk back into my shell and went full robot.

I had to re-learn appropriate responses because I never learned what was okay and what wasn't during those years.

Needless to say, I still mess them up from time to time.

Still, I'm used to not feeling anything. And while it sucks, I think I prefer it to constant rage and fear.
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>>6830598
The teen anger anecdotes you've told us make you sound like you had a pretty hormonal youth.
I'm glad you're taking steps into both transitioning and fixing your life. I hope you can get your body in a better place and find a way to become more independent so you can do things your way.
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>>6830593
Cryptic as usual. :/

Well if theres ever anything i can do for you then im here, just ask, okay?

Also, i feel you, i've felt the same, especially with everyone telling me whatever ill touch will be a failure. But thats not true! Find something to focus on you enjoy, even if you think it'll go badly, and if it does, who cares, you can just try again.
The result doesnt matter if you have fun doing it.
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>>6830596
Yeahh, that's something I'm kind of learning now. I understand an old piece of advice I got years ago, never date my best friend.
Idk though, my feelings are a weird and change often. Sometimes I thought she was the best person I could ever date, sometimes I thought differently. Idk. Hormones, inexperience, maybe even mental illness idfk. I'm just messed up.
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>>6830593
I wish i could somehow make you feel better
Just hang in there
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>>6830601
To be honest, those are the few times I wasn't in autopilot, coasting along and missing days from my memory.

The few times I came out of that mode, I was... different I guess.

Maybe it's because fucking with your blood sugars messes up your development.

Doesn't stop it though.
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>>6830604
We're all messed up. You're going to be fine. Get some sleep or something.
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>>6830598
Sorry for butting in, but i just wanna say you're not alone with this, im just the same.
Even now, on E i dont feel much emotion at all, which is pretty dissapointing because i hoped for E to make me more lively.
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>>6830613
Yeah, I need to head to sleep, I have another sleep deprived 12-10 ahead of me tomorrow, and it's already 330 am.
Hopefully .25mg xanax will help take the edge off and let me sleep, might take the other half if i need it.
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>>6830602
sorry i don't
wanna talk about my problems
in detail
they make people sad
and also
i have something to focus on
problem is
it makes me sad as fuck every single time it comes into my mind
like the past three nights i've had the same dream exactly and its been terrible.
i want it to stop and i want it to go away but it doesn't. i just wake up and start bawling my eyes out
breathing hurts now and
i cant bring myself to smile even artificially
my eyes are always extremely fucking red from the crying and i am just
a fucking bitch with life
>>6830606
i guess just
talking kinda helps me a little bit i think
thank you for uhh talking to me
i think
im bad at communicating i apologize.
but yeah thank you for talking to me even if its just a little bit.
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>>6830598
Obviously finding a replacement habit sounds good but I don't have much advice on that subject, sadly
>>6830604
>never date my best friend
>tfw you're doing this now
Is it really so bad?
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I don't allow myself to cry. I don't know how to break that cycle. Maybe I'll visit the beach.

Even if I wanted to be worth rubies, sapphires, and gold, no one is going to ever think I'm thst pretty. I mean it's 2016 and I'm a peasant house cat degenerate shut in NEET.... But like... I have big dreams of being a rock star, you know.


Very frustrating.


I don't feel mediocre. I'm just settling for mediocrity. Why? Why don't i snap out of this black spell? I'm smart enough to play blue. Shout outs super smash Bros games, and magic the gathering
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>>6830619
Good night Grace. I better not see you posting here in an hour.
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>>6830618
I get the feeling that that's clinical depression for you.

Prozac helps, somewhat.

Dealing with what caused the regression in the first place is more effective though.

Being able to scream my lungs out about it to my therapist allowed me to let loose in other aspects.

I'm still a batshit crazy basket case though. Can't deny that.
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>>6830623
Smoking.

Smoking helps.

I tossed out my cigs last week though to get clean. I hate feeling like my lungs are on fire and my nose is desesitised.
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>>6830621
There you go apologizing again hahah
Well talking helps me to so im happy i could talk to you
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>>6830621
I wish my soul could be closer. I have a talent of mending or at least helping. It's because I'm a native American.
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dunno why but i suddenly got hair inspiration while seeing myself in the bathroom mirror
i kinda like this look, i think im gonna use it at work
>>6830625
hopefully not
thank you K.
>>6830623
>Is it really so bad?
I mean if things go south you hurt your best friend.
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>>6830621
I understand, but you said you need help, and that requires you to talk with people about your problems, wheter it makes them sad or not. Let them help you.

And if what you focus your thoughts on makes you sad, i dont think you're focusing on the right things. Dont dwell in misery, do something that´'ll take your mind of it for a while.
For me, personally, blasting my brains out with loud music and dancing to it works well, im sure theres something that works for you.
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>>6830632
Clean your room senpai
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>>6830639
She never does...
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>>6830628
It'd probably be good to find a better replacement habit
It's good that you're quitting though, I've heard smoking makes E less effective too, though I don't have anything to back that up
>>6830632
That is a very good point... I didn't mean for this to happen, though, so I guess I'll just have to do my best
I appreciate the insight
>>
>>6830632
are you a hoarder?
seriously how do you move in your room?
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>>6830629
well
at least you're getting something out of it
im glad^^
>>6830634
i try to focus on other things
but when i listen to music or play video games
something will always remind me no matter what
i want to escape
i want to get away
all i have for that is drugs
i need some...
good thing i have some arriving in a few days
but
i dont wanna burden others with my problems i need to avoid that
>>6830630
ehh?
i'm sorry but i'm not sure what you mean
you are good with helping others because you are native American?
well
yeah thats what you said damn im dumb
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>>6830642
I would take up some more hobbies but I have enough of them.
I just don't get left alone to tend to them enough.

I might start streaming soon though.

By which I mean tommorow...

maybe...
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>>6830641
The last time I hung out with another transgirl she actually got mad at me for cleaning her room.
I wonder if Grace will be the same way when I go up there and clean that place up.
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>>6830649
I'm usually OCD about tidying everywhere except my own room. I don't know why but I just can't care about where I sleep...
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>>6830639
>>6830641
>>6830643
Shhhhh
>>6830642
Yeah, I mean
It might not turn out terrible
Especially if you two can be really mature about things
I'm confident things will recover between my best friend and I but
It'll take time
And it hurts knowing I hurt her.
>>6830649
I'm working on cleaning it up!
I'm planning out some new shelves I want put up over my desk so I can better organize my weaboo figures
>>
>>6830626
Yeah, im diagnosed with chronic depression.
Seems like every doc i ever have been to thinks im functioning enough to not need antidepressiva though. Honestly, i loathe the mental health department, they dont care about wheter you are happy or not, they just care about wheter you are able to work or not.

I honestly thought and still think i've that from my gender dysphoria, but if it doesnt resolve... i dont know where it could possibly come from. I have large holes in my memories, maybe its something i've buried too deep to dig out.

At the same time, if thats so, im not sure wheter i even want to dig it out, because it must've been something big right? Dealing with all the pain i've presumably buried back then, all at once. Im not sure i could do that.

>>6830632
Lots of stuff in your room fampai.

Are these... paintings? Some stryofoam boxes (please please please tell me that aint old food), a ...umbrella? Do i spot a anime figurine box?
Its interresting to try and find out someones hobbies based on the stuff they own.

>>6830644
Hmm... well then i dont know what to do, i know literally nothing about your problems. But im not your psych anyway, its probably for the best if you talk with him about this.

Its perfectly fine to lean on your friends though, friends are here to help each other, they too want you to be happy and for that they'll be glad to bear a bit of your burden.
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>>6830665
my psych
well
october 29th is the nearest available appointment.
with how healthcare works its
unfortunate
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>>6830665
No old food, don't worry! It's mostly just anime figure clutter, lots of boxes from those laying around because I use them to store and transport the figures when I'm not displaying them.
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>>6830661
Why arent you asleep.
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im sleepy so i think the xanax is work-
>>6830673
IM LITERALLY SAYING GOODNIGHT
anyway
xanax is working im sleepy goodnight everyone <3
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hi i woke up
>>6830675
share some xan
>>
Should I visit the school psychiatrist about my desire to die.
>>
>>6830665
The problem I had was with my family...

I'm still working through it.

I didn't know I had that problem though until my therapist drew it out from me like blood from a stone.
>>
>>6830680
maybe
>>
YAY!

I KILLED THE THREAD!!!

>>6830684
or not...
>>
>>6830678
hey me too
morning
well an hour ago
>>
>>6830669
Why so late? I've a appintment roughly every 2 weeks, but well, now theres a break since he meant i should let the mones settle in and see how i do on them.
I feel dumb for agreeing, theres more stuff than ever i want to talk about. Bluh.

>>6830670
Ohhh. Figurine collections are neat, though i wouldnt buy one of my own: My anime levels aint high enough to buy these pricy mofos haha

>>6830681
Uwa that sounds painful.
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>>6830686
twinzies ^^
>>
>>6830690
Worth it thought. I shouted my lungs raw at him for 15 minutes and then spent the rest of the session in a tense ball crying like I hadn't done in years.

The rest of the week I was completely drained, but after that it felt much easier to talk about things.
>>
>>6830690
because health care is garbage.
it sucks so bad.
i don't even know what to do
>>6830691
yuh
>>
>>6830684
More qualified person, also what is the worst that can happen?
>>
>>6830648
I like watching streams, I'll probably be out tomorrow though
>>6830661
I'm not usually too mature... but I'm trying
It is putting a lot of emotional eggs in one basket...
I'm glad your situation can be salvaged, I hope it doesn't take too much time
>>6830675
G'night
>>
>>6830685
maybe
>>6830697
uh they might be legally bound to like
tell ur parents or smthing idk
>>
>>6830698
Well, it'll probably be in the evening.

And I'll suck like no one you've ever seen.
>>
>>6830488
nice
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>>6830699
It would make things more intresting.
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I played too much piano and now my hands hurt even typing this on my phone. This is really bad. :(

I attack my keyboard like Calvin from Calvin & Hobbs, or a jungle hunter killing a wild beast with knives (my fingers)....
Im so terribly scared I'll never be half talented enough to cut it making music people enjoy or thst I enjoy.

I enjoy it, I'm just frustrated how slow I improve. It's annoying. I should be amazing. It is amazing in my head, but I don't know how to externalize.
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Good edition
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>>6830707
I think it's gross and unfair to Trans lesbians.
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>>6830708
fuck trans lesbians :)
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>>6830184
Hey, bordy just says to me that he was going to respond to you but then he got nervous and closed thread. So on his behalf

Hello his day was good
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>>6830178
Hi birdo
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>>6830710
Says trips gaysex and faggot :l
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>>6830713
What are you implying here?
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>>6830715

>>6830710
>>6830707
>>6830708

>>6830303
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>>6830227
>Autism is a meme
are you sure...

>>6830270
>>6830330
lol drop him

>>6830604
>tfw been in a weird quasi-relationship thing with my best friend of 11 years for the past few years now
>tfw we're way closer than we were before and she's been my main source of emotional support throughout transition
>tfw you bought her her dream birthday present two years ago and watched her cry and tell me she loves me (still one of the top 5 moments of my life to date)

idk grace I think it depends on the temperament of the people involved as much as anything else
>>
>tfw starting counselling in 5 days
fuck
idek where to start
like if they ask "so what's the problem?" what the fuck do I even say? any ideas? should I just show them some of the meme pics of me from this place and let them figure out the rest???
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>>6830711
<3.
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>>6830720
Create a list and give it to them
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>>6830720
best idea >>6830724
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>>6830724
a list of WHAT though
I'm so disconnected from my own emotions and issues I don't even know what my problem is, just that it's there
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Lol my psych basically said I have no options
Same with my school counselor
Save me, child protection services
I also have my appoibtkebt tomorrow to check levels n stuff
How are you though, /mtfg/?
Everything A-OK?
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>>6830729
I watched some documentaries about different mental illnesses and some were basically describing me and to others I couldn't relate at all. Maybe try that?

>>6830726
> only reply with an idea
> it's the best idea
Surprise :D
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>>6830732
wow that's bullshit, hopefully CPS will be able to do something about it

I'm shitty btw
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>>6830734
Well it is the best idea though!
I've done it with therapists in the past.
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so the ambulance fee was $3.5k
the hospital fee was $5k
my bank account is d r a i n e d
>>6830732
oh this reminds me i need my panels done
i've had so much blood drawn recently especially with the overdose i would have had them somehow evaluated by now
but nope
need to still do that
goddamn
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>>6830732
Run away again.
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>>6830732
The most important thing for now is sticking with transition. The system is ridiculous but hopefully the moment you hit 16 a lot more services will be opened up to you. You're a very good girl for sticking with this.

I've got laser today, I came out to my mum last weekend idk if you saw me mention it before? My doctor gave me my new fit note (which the job centre has to accept a new one every 4 weeks for me to keep getting welfare) but it has my old address on still because the new one isn't processed yet; I can only hope they accept it...
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>>6830701
By the evening I'll be at Bexe's, I'll try to pop in here an see if you're up to anything
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>>6830734
but pretty much ALL of them describe me

>>6830738
>taken to hospital in ambulance because of overdose the other week
>didn't have to pay a penny, they even paid for my taxi home
stop being so american D:
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>>6830741
I probably won't drop a link here.

I might do it in the discord though.
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>>6830738
You just had $8.5k floating around your bank account?
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Have my shitty boynode school photooo

>>6830735
Hopefully
What's wrong Em?
Please don't obsess over skull ;-;
>>6830738
Ahh sorry about your bank account
>>6830739
Dw I'm never living there again
>>6830740
Yyp definitely sticking to transition
And 16 will open up so many doors for me
My psych said it gives me more rights then becoming an adult does under my conditions
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>>6830738
>so the ambulance fee was $3.5k
>the hospital fee was $5k
...
Jesus Christ what the fuck.
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>>6830737
Are they shocked when you bring several papers of issues to the session?

>>6830745
Don't write the illness down but the symptoms that you can relate to.
If they all fit, then write them all down.
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>>6830751
>>6830738
JFC
This exact thing cost me €200
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>>6830745
mm i think its appropriate
it was a nice hospital
the people treated me nice too.
>>6830748
i had $9k left
thats it
>>6830750
lol its okay
w/e
no money is whatever
its more my recurring dreams and my mom being devastated that really upsets me.
dreams are extremely shitty desu
>>6830751
: )
its my own fault
i got myself into the situation
i paid the price for it
as far as money goes and emotional consequences
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>>6830750
I hate my appearance is basically what's wrong desu
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>>6830738
Thanks Obama am i rite?
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>>6830752
Surprised I guess.
They're not used to people being prepared
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>>6830751
ikr that's like the cost of brow shave or jaw surgery wtf
land of the fucking free aye

>>6830750
You have a good attitude, you'll go far. <3
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>>6830754
It was your fault no doubt, but the price you paid for it is ridiculous, sounds way too much for what it was.
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>>6830754
appropriate?? I went to one of the top hospitals in the entire country and got free lunch too senpai

how can americans seriously defend their healthcare system...
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>>6830762
This.
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>>6830756
actually it is obamacare that has direct relation to this since prices raised to keep doctors properly motivated and paid.
and hospitals accept less insurances
since they didn't accept my insurance
since my other insurance dropped me when I got put in the hospital :D
mental one at least
>>6830762
because I think people like me who do something stupid and overdose to try and kill themselves should have to pay a price for it.
especially me.
>>6830761
eh
they had to give me a lot of medicine and i was on a consistent iv giving me this painful medicine for like 4 hours straight
it wasn't fun
i would post labels of it and pricing but
well
gore
:|
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Good night friends.
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>>6830768
Sleep well Chara^^
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>>6830768
good nighto
>>
Welp, time to wash dishes.
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>>6830777
When do you sleep?
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>>6830786
What is this "sleep" of which you speak?
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>>6830786
I don't. I haven't slept in about 43 hours now.
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>>6830791
go to sleep silly girl
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>>6830797
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>>6830798
I understand like... early last year when I was super sad I spent four days straight playing minecraft on the /mtfg/ server and recently I stayed up watching all of Stranger Things in one sitting...
its just a recommendation
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>>6830750
>be 15 on hrt
>skull shape still gets fucked by t
Fuuuug
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>>6830801
Ikr
Fucking kill me
>>
>ran out of benzos at a time when a doctors appointment was more than a month away
feels bad
desu
sleeping is so impossible when i have the same recurring nightmare
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>>6830804
Why are you so bad at everything? If you really wanted to kill yourself you'd just do it instead of making half-assed attempts for attention
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>>6830797
Can't, probably in about 19 hours though. Or a few more accounting for chara
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Oh shut up already Sarah.
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>>6830805
hi sarah or riz
how u?
>>
Good morning everyone!
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>>6830808
i've gradually been starting to feel like 'Sarah :3' is even worse at understanding human emotions than Chara is
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>>6830806
:(
just go to bed after you close please
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>>6830811
hhi
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>>6830814
i will

well, maybe an hour or two after accounting for chara, which is a bad idea because i need to be rested for tomorrow but i'm just being realistic here

i have a problem
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>>6830806
Wait... why would you do this to yourself? Take a sleep break, unless the need for you to be awake right now is truly dire.
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>>6830801
>tfw skull shape gets fucked before T even happened
fug ;-;
>>
i fell asleep crying. i woke up and started crying, now i'm crying again.

sorry for tmi, but i need to resolve aloud i need better fucking drugs (again)
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>>6830813
lol
also
can't understand simple body functions
thinks people with arthritis just can't walk in general
its not like its crippling pain
i can walk but with painkillers
>>6830824
that ain't tmi dw
>>
France, putting the coke in Coke.
http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/a-massive-amount-of-cocaine-was-found-at-a-french-cocacola-plant
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>>6830824
Oh. That really sucks.

I'm sorry, Lithuanian. It doesn't seem like anyone has recommended good psychiatrists in the local community, so I guess it's back to getting randoms and hoping for the best.
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>>6830819
kinda can't

i have to finish the backlog of dishes from when i got beat up and shit lol, i didn't want to make the other dude take care of double the dishes just because i got hurt

and if i go to sleep i know i'll sleep at least 5 hours given how long i've been up, which is way too long. 5 hours is too long that is lol

>>6830825
she can dish it, but she sure can't take it

oh wait, she isn't very good at dishing it either
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>>6830832
Wait, you were beaten up at work? What the fuck?
>>
What mental changes am I suppose to be getting on HRT? so far I feel worse about myself and I can cry now
>>
i wanna take a bath!!

>>6830832
true lol.
>>6830835
you're also supposed to lose sight of value in your own life
and desperately rely on others to make your miserable existence a shred better before realizing that you are a shallow piece of shit.
at least
thats my experience
>>
>>6830835
six months and same
things only get worse
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>>6830832
wasn't that like a couple weeks ago you go beat up
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You are all awesome and I hope you have a nice day!
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>>6830842
cute pupperoos
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>>6830838
i just took a bath earlier =w=
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>>6830838
>>6830839
So I'm fucked?
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>>6830460
That's why the most static, hard bones on our body (teeth) are not affected by extended pressure. Wew
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>>6830847
how long are you on?
supposedly it gets better after the year mark
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>>6830834
ye

search posts by quid with the word choked and you should find the thread

>>6830840
yeah, nine or ten days I think

hurt just to breathe for the first few days, then for a couple days after that it still hurt too much do any physical labor besides just making food and shit, then i spent like a day being a lazy asshole, and now i've been washing dishes over the night for the past few days
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>>6830844
Jealous as heck!!
>>6830847
yeah
life and existence is fucked
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>>6830843
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>>6830853
1 month spiro and E for 13 days

>>6830859
;~;
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>>6830859
i luv baths
>>
Good morning MTFG. Just got back from the dentist's. What'd I miss?
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>>6830861
You're in for a wild ride.
>>
Had a dream last night that i was living n my own in an odd apartment complex. The landlord was a kinda weird old lady. I had gotten a job and moved out. And i was my normal usual tranny self. There was a girl who lived next door to me and she was very sweet. We would talk a lot and she always happened to be around whenever i was around. I think we had this mutual "we like eachother" vibe, where things arent awkward. You're just confident that you both like eachother and you can take things at your own pace. It was really pleasant. But i also think she saw me as a boy, which sucked. I didn't really mind at the time though.
And then i woke up and realized it was all a pleasant dream, which itself was distressing because I'm not living on my own and I'm not having a very comfy romance.
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>>6830860
aw the dogger was all like
>hey it okay
>hey look you'll be okay
>wait, no why are you hitting urself, stop that
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>>6830867
Autism service dogs are incredible.
>>
>>6830865
shit
does it get better?
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>>6830860
>>6830860
awww
the puppy is so sweet ><
>>6830861
it is eternal conflict between your thoughts and desires.
i wish you luck
>>6830862
i like
realalllyyyyyyyyyy i wanna take one
>>6830863
me sad posting
uhhh
sarah flipping shit
akaka saying good morning
not much really
>>6830866
that is an interesting dream
sorry that she saw you as a boy
i have those dreams all the time and they suck
its interesting since not passing doesnt make me wanna die
but those dreams make me wanna like
go away
>>6830870
they had one for a kid that i was rooming next to at the mental hospital a few months back
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Thinking of getting my hair tumblred like this. Bad idea or terrible idea?
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>>6830873
TERRIBAD
>>6830871
no
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>>6830862
take a bath with mommy
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>>6830870
I've heard of prostitutes hired to service the handicapped, but dogs? Do they remove all their teeth or something?
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>>6830872
Hm :/
I hope you feel better soon, and that Sarah stops doing that.
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>>6830871
Apparently it does. Like I said about a year.
But if you're anything like me, things are going to keep getting worse, like a lot worse, for a while
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>>6830872
>>6830876
;_;

>>6830880
fuck, I hope it gets better soon :c
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>>6830879
lol i left the server because i was just being shitty.
im always sad and just
annoy people
>>
>>6830873
Really really bad idea.
>>6830872
I actually just want to go back to the drem now. This suuuucks.
>>6830878
Ru retrded
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>>6830878
Oh my fucking god I hate you so much.
You're not funny.
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>>6830881
I hope it does too
For both of us
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>>6830886
thanks, you too
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>>6830878
can you just knot?
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>>6830883
i wish i had good dreams
>>6830881
don't worry
let drugs take you through sadness
>>
>>6830893
I have no drugs
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>>6830894
buy em
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>>6830882
Thats not true Isla.
I mean, yeah you've been upset a lot but so have most people. Its not a bad thing to talk about it if you are upset.

And you don't annoy people. You aren't annoying Isla :c
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>>6830895
I don't have any means
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>>6830877
o-okay mommy
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>>6830896
nah i upset a lot of people
>>6830898
do camshows
i did them when i was 15 and 16 for people
if you're desperate enough i mean
tough i wasn't allowed to keep the money
>>
>>6830882
i think it's mostly anons who say you annoy them isn't it

which means it's pretty worthless since it could just be one person
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>>6830906
/pat pat
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>>6830909
I mean, who do you upset? Sarah? Most people aren't annoyed or upset or w/e by you.
>>
>>6830915
oa couple of people
not name droppping
>>6830910
is quite a few peoples
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>>6830917
I'd be pretty surprised if you upset many people. Dm me on discord?

I think most people are more worried than anything Isla.
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Mtfg what haircare products do you use?

I finally did the splurge and got me a better conditioner. Hope it holds what it and its price promises >w>
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Good morning you crazy nut bags
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>>6830920
eh
if they're worried nothing i can do
if you want but im like
kinda just sitting here.
being kinda happy cuz nipponfaye
but then kinda sad cuz other reasons
>>6830924
https://www.brazilianblowout.com/products-acai-anti-frizz/
i like this one^^
>>
>>6830927
Hm... well, you shouldn't give people's opinions too much weight, I really do think most people don't find you annoying.

I'm really glad that Faye is able to make you feel a bit happier, it sucks to see you so upset :/
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>>6830927
Oh how is it?
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>>6830932
eh its okay
others opinions are all i have
my opinions are real bad so i have to use others
thank you though
shes super nice
>>6830934
i think its the best for my hair
it makes it softer
>>
>>6830924
I use like
>glycerol + coco oil shampoo
>moisture conditioner

and hair oil before shampoo and leave-in conditioner / heat-protector before blowdrying

tho I don't know how good my hair quality is even with these

>>6830926
hi non
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>>6830939
Hm, well still, just don't pay too much attention to people I guess ^^
>shes super nice
Yeah, she's pretty awesome :3
>>
>>6830941
yeah
we're gonna skype later hopefully and make awkward jokes and stuff
should be nice
>>
>>6830942
Thats good ^^
I hope you two enjoy <3
>>
>>6830924
I hate my hair.
>>6830878
What comedy school did you go to?
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>>6830924
I've been trying out these lately and they're surprisingly good for a cheap meme product...
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>>6830948
All French people are born with an offensive sense of off-colour humour.
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Never forget youre all wonderfull and i love you all
>>
>>6830948
Ah. Whats wrong with your hair?

>>6830950
Never heard of these before desu. But its for dry hair, so these probably would leave my hair as greaseball hah. Ill pass. :p
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>>6830953
Thanks Hanna <3
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>tfw i like andro/boyish looks
>tfw when i wear them i get super anxious about looking andro/boyish
womp womp
>>
>>6830953
Aww...
Love you too <3
>>
>>6830957
ufufu have you read arte?
>>
>>6830955
>>6830959
Group hug
>>
>>6830963
*huuuug*
<3
>>
>>6830939
My penis is hurting for you bby, why you playing so hard to get? When you know you want a strong man who lifts by your side, to be there so your delicious milky skin can have someone sturdy to cling to.

Come blow me a kiss.
>>
>>6830957
Worried that if you go too boyish you're going to end up looking like a man?
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>>6830957
Wear this, then you'll feel girly and secure :^)
>>
>>6830965
i like this meme
>>6830963
<3
>>
>>6830961
no?

>>6830967
duh

>>6830968
blleeeaaagghh
>>
>>6830954
My hair was always pretty dry and has become even more so on HRT. I was told that it was getting oily only because the shampoo for greasy hair I was using was too irritating for my scalp. A bit counterintuitive, but that hairdresser was right. My hair has looked a lot healthier after switching to dry hair products...
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>>6830970
>blleeeaaagghh
I intentionally tried to find some kinda sissy bullshit clothing but I haven't saved any pics like that apparently.. I kinda like that dress a bit desu
>>
okay
so rather than Chaturbate, I think what I'm gonna do is just direct the chasers who always PM me on Kageshi to my Amazon wishlist of kinky things and get them to buy me stuff to use on skype for them
I need more kink stuff but I'm too poor, this seems like a decent solution

when I've got all that stuff then I'll just direct people to my gofundme for donations

y/n?
>>
>>6830971
Counter inutive?
Not sure if i got this right, you have dry hair and used shampoo for greasy hair (aka shampoo that dries your hair out to combat excess grease)? No wonder it was awful for you.
>>
>>6830970
>no?
ok! I liked it.
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>>6830954
>too short
>grows upwards so doesn't cover man features
>pain to comb out
>need to cornrow it for it to grow
>if i throw in the towel and straighten it this may damage it
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Whopp time for a shower to try that new product out.
>>
>>6830978
My parents used to buy the shampoo I used so they picked the greasy hair stuff because my hair was bad, and it just kept making it worse. Learned quite a few things when I started making my own care choices in high school...
>>
>>6830984
Oh ouch. Typical afro hair.
I dont know how to deal with that kinda hair but i think its probably for the best if you just grow it out and ocassionally wash it and otherwise leave it alone.
>>
>>6830957
unsolicited as always i kno, but pls keep ur long hair. (you don't look too boyish with short hair, but that isn't what's important here)
>>
>>6830957
post fit
>>
>>6830983
idek what it is anon

>>6830973
its no good anon sorry ;_;
>>
>>6830969
It's not a meme... it's the same guy that was "chasing" you for like a week plus... cis girls don't play so hard to get you know.

How would your mom react if you brought home a black bf?
>>
>>6830998
>cis girls don't play so hard to get you know.
KEK
>>
>>6830998
cis girls are sluts
>>
>>6830998
>>6831003
Have you people literally never ventured outside your bedrooms?

Do your weary resigned mothers slip you energy bars and ramen through a mail slot in your door?
>>
>>6830984
Get an afrocomb, also put in extensions. I heard they help your hair grow. And by extensions I don't mean a weave, plait or twist the hair into your hair at the root.
>>
>>6830998
>cis girls don't play so hard to get you know
sorry, this just needed another (You)

I'm literally still laughing, my stomach is starting to hurt
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>>6830997
>idek what it is anon
it's about a noble girl that decides to join a renaissance workshop to make it on her own, and she has a hot master
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so i'm not crying like an idiot anymore--but now i have to go out, and the sun is out there
>>
>>6831008
I have used extensions with the cornrow.
I have many afrocombs.
>>
>>6830997
>its no good anon sorry ;_;
wai?
>>
>>6831001
>>6831003
>>6831006
The ones I talked to probably liked me somewhat, when they not interested they laugh it off and put me down soft.

Cripple chan is almost aggressively fearful and just runs away.
>>
>>6831006
I'm late but...
>repressed
>dadless
>whiner
>DeathGrip Fans
>total mess
>computer "wiz"
>underachieving 23 year old
>poor posture skyrim mod downloaders
>fantasizes about creating some artistic masterpiece and getting money and pussy as a result, at which point their lives will finally take off
>ironic steam profile comment copy-pasters
>fantasizes about being dead and everyone being sad about it
>newegg.com custom PC builders
>confused high schoolers that find nietzsche (RAND THO)while trying to get out of an existential crisis
>kids that got really mad whenever the class laughed at a bad joke
>embarrassing teenage memories shower-reminiscers
>Berserk fans
>chronic idlers

I'm kind of a loser.
>>
>>6831010
The you edition was last thread.
>>
>>6831006
>a jew encouraging race mixing
at this rate you are going to wear off your fingerprints
>>
>>6831018
Ok, new line of questioning

Have you ever hit on a girl on the internet before?

Because when real life isn't involved they'll typically be a lot more honest.

I mean, Isla's a dirty racist, but like that really has nothing to do with it

>laugh it off and put me down soft

more like "ok if i'm nice he'll leave me alone"

>>6831019
that's ok, me too

>>6831021
What's that got to do with what I said tho
>>
Hello friend$! That feel when you've been taking care of your skin seriously for the first time ever and it finally starts to have results.

>maybe the is hope
>>
>>6831019
Not a loser just edgy.
>>6831024
Is Isla actually racist? I've only herd her say she wasn't attracted to black people which isn't racist.
>>
>>6831022
Do you people just pre-write posts to reply to me with?

Like seriously, there used to be a train of thought you could follow. Now most of these posts literally make no sense whatsoever and have no relation to the post they're replying to.

I mean, aside from one of the people I was replying to was black but ???? like that's literally the only connection I can think of lmao

how are you getting this lazy seriously

the hateanons before I left went for months without running out of ideas, like shit
>>
>>6831026
Tbqh how am I edgy? I act aloof and ironic 99% of the time. Not saying it's better... I'm just not Reaper-san.
>>
>>6831029
Aloof is edgy.
And
>Ayn Rand
Say no more f.am
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>>6831027
you're clearly a white genocide promoting, Holocaust lying, shekel-stealing, tranny and faggot encouraging kike
: ^)
>>
>>6831031
I was in high school. Also Rand gets way more shit than she deserves and it's 99% reactionary to how conservative retards misinterpret it.

Ayn Rand was essentially mad the world was unfair. Which most decent people are.
>>
I noticed that ever since I adopted new tactics against the /pol/ invaders here they've slinked off. I declare victory.
>>
>>6831026
i believe she acknowledges it as irrational but is racist due to past trauma, idk for sure tho

>>6831035
shit

what are you some psychic DEMON??

how the fuck did you-

*runs*
>>
I should just not bother going, I'm a gross hon with a gross hon body and no dress in the world will make me look nice
>>
Isla is ded.
>>
>>6831046
no
>>
>>6831040
I guess this was the Battle for Cable Street 2: Electric Boogaloo
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>tfw you realize that half of your problems and much of your depression could be solved if you were short
>>
>>6831044
Sheen, get the dress and have a good time. :)
>>
>>6831038
>Entire shtick was hating welfare
>Lived off welfare
There is nothing edgier than her except maybe nihilism and Shadow the Hedgehog
>>6831043
Well whatever, she's cordial to me.
>>6831048
>tfw my uncle (by marriage) looks like Oswald Mosley
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Pls r8 I'm now I look like a period viking long ship but I've always felt more like a jet ski. Is there any hope?
>>
>>6831032
>plus size
This cancer needs to end, stop promoting fatties.
>>
>>6831054
Kek.
>>
>>6831058
don't be mean to sheen she is trying to lose weight
>>
how fucking hard can it be to get into a mental hospital?
a 7 hour ordeal later and all I get is "soz brah ask someone else"

I'm half tempted to stop taking my meds and run around naked screaming about aliens
at least then I couldn't NOT get committed
>>
>>6831058
Ugly hon afraid to go outside criticizing anyone...
>>
>>6831044
Sheen, bb. Get your dress(es), put on a smile, and dance the night away. You'll look fine, and a little confidence will make you look even better.
>>
>>6831062
>>6831065
It wasn't aimed at her, it was aimed at the website for promoting fat acceptance with sugar-coated terms such as plus size. I am fat myself you know...
>>
>>6831064
you would probably just get arrested and held in jail overnight or something
>>
>>6831038
w8

rand was mad the world was unfair

so she wanted to make it more unfair

and made this her entire political philosophy

then renounced this and wanted stuff to be fair at the end of her life

i dunno pally the lady is sounding pretty batshit crazy to me

>>6831054
oh yeah, to be sure

idk if it even really counts as racist
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Bed now
hopefully I don't wake up
bye
>>
>>6831067
>Internalizing fat hate.

U shud b proud of who u r
>>
>>6830750
Holy shit that looks just like my old school uniform.
>>
>>6831071
>i dunno pally the lady is sounding pretty batshit crazy to me
jews do have a lot of mental problems what with being so incestuous
>>
>>6831066
Hi Akaka
>>6831073
Why does nobody understand me here? My line on obesity is that society should stop shaming people for it but at the same time it should not be encouraged. Why is this so hard to understand? Assholes here laugh at Sheen's weight, I'm sympathetic and offer helpful dieting advice because I've been there myself, yet after all this I'm the one accused of hating overweight people?
>>
>>6831071
In her mind she was always advocating unfairness. You have to realize get mindset comes out of being a disenfranchised prussian aristocrat. When the commies took everything from her family that skewed everything she believed after.

She 100% believed the world was 10% hardworking superstars who carried the leeching 90%. If you accept this as a base premise her logic is more understandable. Wrong, but understandable.

Honestly I think Rand is very valuable add entry level philosophy because there is plenty of value in her ideals while also having much to disagree about. And philosophy is largely the art of disagreement.

If I taught a philosophy 101 course I'd start with Rand because believe it or not most 99% of high schoolers don't understand that everything in a book is not 100% fact. You can learn from everything even if you disagree with it.
>>
>>6831080
i've slept with jews. i don't see the incest. shiksa life is p ok
>>
>>6831086
She was always advocating >fairness

Typo
>>6831083
I was being like... reeeeeeeaaalllly sarcastic.
>>
>>6831073
Theres no being proud of being fat desu.

Sorry but thats really one thing i cannot accept and respect. Do some sport, adjust your diet. Its not /that/ hard.
Sure theres quite a bit of effort invovled which may be hard to get used to if before you were mostly sitting around and eating chips all day but seriously.

...Speaking of which, i put on some weight, REEEEE. Need to exercise more.
>>
>>6831037
I like the second dress too. More "extravagant". Enjoy the party!
>>
way to kill the thread sheen
>>
Do I have to pull a Michael Jackson to get cripple chan? That silky pale skin cannot go to waste. She needs breeding asap.
>>
>>6831115
Why are you blaming sheen?
>>
>>6831115
Leave her alone.
>>6831116
My mum thinks MJ was trans. Thoughts? I did legit think he was a woman when I first saw him in 1998.
>>
>>6830750
My penis in you when? I like girls who have kinks. You like dressing up as a student huh?
I can play your professor ;)
>>
>>6831080
good job, you're doing better, you actually read the post before you trolled away

>>6831086
i mean, sure, but that's because she was a spoiled brat who suddenly had it all taken away, and thought daddy's business meant she was entitled to stuff

coming from a childhood where i could have been spoiled as fuck but my parents kept me grounded, i don't really have sympathy

i never finished Atlas Shrugged but I got a decent way in a few years back before I decided I would rather hammer nails into my skull, and it didn't seem hugely enriching, but i dunno, the mind-numbing boredom of making myself read the tosh might have stopped me from being able to appreciate whatever vestiges of quality philosophy might have been in there
>>
>>6831121
i guess in the parlance of our times, he would be put under femboy? femman?
>>
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I just want a home
Spending these like two weeks with friends family has been so nice
Everyone's kind and making jokes and
Theres like dinners where everyone has fun and its so relaxing
Why can't I just have something like this
>>
>>6831127
>good job, you're doing better, you actually read the post before you trolled away
I aim to please my greatest ally
>>
>>6830751
I'm so glad I'm not American.
>>
>>6831130
He was flamboyant, not trans.
>>
>>6831132
w-wha desu
>>
>>6831048
>Tfw labour immigration policies ethnically cleansed cable street anyway so Mosley still won
>>
>>6831138
femboyant? and pee-wee herman has a vagina and is a college ftm.
>>
>>6831144
Mosley won nothing, the Jews simply moved to Stamford Hill.
>>
>>6831144
>this is what fascists actually believe
>>
>>6831148
He was originally a member of the Labour Party, there's more to the grand game than party politics and fleeting trends such as fascism. Deportation still counts as a form of ethnic cleansing.
>>
>>6831131
soon, child
>>
>>6831152
Mosley was a member of the Labour Party.
>>
>>6830998
>How would your mom react if you brought home a black bf?
sucide :)
wait no that would be me nvm
>>6831131
i really wonder what it would be like.
it sounds nice
>>
>>6831158
Yes. who left because he became a fascist.
>>
>>6831125
Wew
No thanks desu anon
>>6831157
I hope so
>>6831160
It sounds really nice ;~;
>>
i am literally
too white
like
im looking at my legs
and they
reflect light
and my arms too
why am i so white
>>
>>6831170
it does
it sucks that i will never have a childhood that doesn't involve beating and rape.
>>
>>6831163
Mussolini started his political career as a socialist. Remember that Ortega was a CIA stooge. The war to end all wars wasn't good enough for the elite, so they had another and carved Europe up with communism, Fascism, and capitalism and forced us into half a century of fear.
>>
>>6831083
Hi Shakira!
>>
also
don't shave with a dull razor
you will regret it.
>>
>>6831192
did this yesterday
I do regret it
>>
>>6831155
>>6831163
Yeah that's a weird one. He just got salty that they didn't like his ideas (which were actually quite liberal) so he threw a tantrum and went full /pol/
>>
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>tfw mom rightfully yelled at me for being a spoiled brat.

>>6831172
desu thats literally perfect. Reflective vampire skin: Aestetic and helps your safety at night!
>>
>>6831178
I hate conspiracy theorists so much. Which is more likely, some small bunch of people meticulously plan every aspect of world politics or people just get individual ideas and fall out over it? Illuminati is basically the modern god; this all knowing and all controlling power that people who can't handle the randomness of the world use as an explanation for everything from the cold war to earthquakes
>>
>>6831202
it really isn't
>>6831194
its not pain its just
it took over an hour
>>
>>6830985
>frizzy & dry hair

Ehhh... not what i was expecting desu. Smells gud tho.
>>
>>6831213
>when you run the razor over about a foot of surface and it removes 4 hairs
I understand this 2 much
>>
tfw can't wear crop tops because i have discoloration on my stomach
its so fucking stupid
>>6831219
this is worst feel ever.
>>
>>6831222
I know this fucking feel, I have discoloration and stretch marks everywhere. Can't ever wear tube tops
>>
>>6831206
If Illuminati don't exist, how do you explain Belgium, though? Even the most abject randomness cannot create such an aberration...

http://youtu.be/Ptm3CQLz7-o
>>
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I hate my nose and jaw soo much
You think the bank will let me borrow money for ffs?
>>
>>6831222
>>6831230
Dermablend. It's designed to hide that kind of stuff...
>>
>>6831018
>Cripple Chan
Hahaha
>>
>>6831244
Wow that was unwatchable. didn't they get visited by ayys in 1989? Maybe that is the explanation for that video.
>>6831248
Cool I'll google this
>>6831247
Yeah if your credit is good, personal improvement loan. Mine is not.
>>
>>6831026
>I don't like you because you're black.

That's is racist tho.
>>
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some1 spar me in brawlhalla
pls
>>
>>6831131
iktf ;-; my family don't even try to eat together anymore because it always escalates into shouting and sometimes physical abuse and my dad chasing my mum around the house
>>
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don't forget to practice your voice today
>>
>>6831274
>tfw you havent practiced your voice for 3 months
>>
>>6831274
BUT I DID
>>
>>6831026
i'm scared of black people due to personal experience.
its not lie I *WANT* to dislike anyone
i can be friends with anyone
but sexual attraction is just
physically impossible.
in a sexual manner i just
can't
no matter how hard i try
even asians.
just
its difficult
hmm
>>6831256
I have arthritis and use a wheelchair so someone saidonce
"bed-chan more like cripple-chan"
so i uhh
kindasorta changed
>>6831280
like at all??
howwww
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>>6831280
get on the ball
you're 3 months behind
>>6831282
good girl
*headpats*
>>
>>6831274
oh oops.
>>
>>6831283
well ive used my new voice just not tried to improve it
>>
>>6831285
im the pencil
>>
>>6831290
im the duckface
>>
>>6831293
that's a cute face
>>
>>6831290
That doesn't make sense
>>
>>6831289
ohhh
o:
aww
>>
Halp mtfg! I am no longer deriving joy from shitposting.

Has this happened to anyone before? What can I do?
What should I do?

>Inb4 kys/sudoku
>>
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>>6831294
you're a cute face
>>
>>6831298
Start trolling?
>>
>>6831296
why not
>>6831301
how to get a transbian gf
>>
kiwi and pookie are really cute together
>>
>>6831304
What's the diff between trolling/shitposting?
>>
>>6831294
I'm going to rape you
>>
>>6831274
thank you kiwi-chan
>>
>>6831307
How can you be a pencil
>>
>>6831308
>Third party encouraging transbian coupling on mtfg
Please no, this ends bad

Although the drama resulting from fallout is Q U A L I T Y. Ummmmmm carry on then.
>>
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>>6831310
that's for my bf to do srry
>>6831308
k-kiwi is really cute
>>6831315
I'm not
I'm a crayon
>>
~ w
kee
~ e
>>
>>6831307
b pookie
or b kiwi
>>6831308
you're cute anon
>>6831310
i won't allow that
>>6831311
do itashimashite quid-chan
>>
>>6831317
That doesn't make sense
>>
>>6831320
Yes, it does
>>6831319
im pookie
>>
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>>6831307
Flirt with everyone in the thread until eventually you meet with one and yuri with them.
Source: I'm a chaser
>>
>>6831315
>How can you be a pencil
I thought it was a fouble entendre that she wanted to put her erect GT under her nose in a sexual manner.

Transbians are degenerate like that.
>>
>>6831323
do not do this it is regret desu
>>
>>6831323
hugg elann
>>
>>6831321
No, it doesn't, you can't be a crayon
>>
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>>6831321
and im ur bf and ur gf
>>6831323
i just asked pookie to be my gf
and she said yes
>>
>>6831323
>Elana caught the transbian

For real? You prefer that to a delicious musky veiny cock?
>>
>>6831324
wtf nose fucking
ur kinky baka
>>6831323
ok thnx
>>6831329
Yes, I can.
Actually, I'm a cute crayon
>>6831330
its me ur brother
>>
>>6831332
no you're not
>>
>>6831324
Why wouldn't pookie just say my junk is that pencil
>>
>>6831323
BETRAYED

>>6831326
i-it'll totally turn out ok for me because i did it slightly different than that though...

r-right?
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=jL6lnV4n7qQ

oh boy
>>
>>6831333
how do u kno
>>6831336
my pencil is junk
>>
>>6831339
cus i'm your mommi
>>
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>>6831326
No regrets here

>>6831328
hugg anon

>>6831330
Grats n stuff

>>6831331
I never said I preferred it

>>6831337
Accept me as I am quiddd
>>
>>6831337
no you dumbass, she'll break your heart, and then molest and kill you
>>
hey what's up sluts, what's going on in here?
>>
>>6831332

>you're a cute crayon

What does this even mean
>>
>>6830109
>tfw work computer doesn't have a ban on 4chan anymore

hmm..
>>
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>>6831341
ok mommy
>>6831342
r u gay now elanna
>>6831345
don't call me that
ill cut u
>>6831346
>pic
>>
>>6831342
i-i guess ;_;
>>
>>6831337
who knows
good luck
>>6831342
>no regrets
#rare
#historical
>>
>>6831274
>practicing voice
What is the point if hormones did nothing to your appearance?
>>
i want to kiss shakira
>>
>>6831348
Is your name crayon now
>>
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>>6831348
Not really, still mostly lean towards guys and I guess have a few exceptions. I'm only meme gay.

>>6831350
*chases u*
>>
>>6831361
can i be ur execption
>>
>>6831358
The singer or the trop
>>
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>>6831348
luv ya lil sis
>>6831355
voice makes you pass
>>
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>>6831360
mostly
>>6831361
o
we're same den
>>6831368
winkyface
>>
>>6831361
>meme gay
do you mean Bi
>>
>>6831371
pro geji
>>
>>6831367
trop
>>
>>6831368
Observe as the rapist tries to save face and back away after getting turned down
>>
>>6831376
PORGENGI
>>
>>6831361
>I'm only meme gay
are there any positive role models representing transbians?
>>
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>>6831381
lmao
>>6831383
pro gf
>>
>>6831379
I don't know why my phone did that
>>
>>6831358
T-thanks!!
>>
>>6831384
elanna
>>
>>6831332
I didn't even know there was a proper name for putting an erect GT under someone's nose!

WTF Hentai-chan?

>>6831336
Because it's part of the mental games transvians play in order to increase their degeneracy.

>>6831342
>Don't prefer one over the other.
Fair enough, I guess choosing one road does actually limit my degeneracy. Thank you Elanna sensei for showung me the way.
>>
anyone looking for a bf?
>>
>>6831366
I already kind of have an exception tho ;-;

>>6831371
Kewl

>>6831375
Sure, I guess. It really is pretty rare for me to be into a girl though.

>>6831384
Idk, I sure hope nobody actually thinks I'm transbian though, for that reason and more.

>>6831393
I didn't say that either
>>
>>6831395
only if the bf is a girl
>>
Now whoever that thing save can do the thing
>>
>>6831384
I'm a transbian and positive role model
>>
>>6831384
julia serano
>>
>>6831404
>>6831404
>>6831404
404 newthread not found
>>
>>6831397
>Didn't say one thing or the other
Zen riddles are hard Sensei :(
>>
>>6831309
Trolling is malicous, shitposting is useless and memey.
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