/ftmg/ - female to male general

Starting the long trip up to my college tomorrow (FL to NH). Kinda nervous since it's my first time away from home, but the good thing is, I'll be able to be more myself up there without having to worry about any parental backlash. The college I'm going to is super liberal with tiny classes, so letting profs know what to call me should be easy (hopefully). Also hoping to find a qt bf to cuddle and watch the Simpsons with in my dorm.
Anyone else going to college as a freshman? What are you excited (or worried) about?

Who is the swolest ftm here?

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>>6781433
Me. I can do 300 pullups. With my tail.
U mirin?

>>6780181
>going all the way to NH

Nigga if you would've went to ucf we could've hit it up

>>6780158

thanks...

>>6780158
>>Some info: >http://helpfultransinfo.tumblr.com/tags/

I finally looked at this and I clicked on comparisons
>tfw some people can grow facial hair only after a few months of T
>you barely can grow any despite being on it for over 2 years and having normal testosterone levels according to doc
Never fails to get me depressed.

>>6781433
I kinda have some muscle

>>6782235
Post

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>>6782314
boi

>>6782410
Nice face. Now post the muscle.

>>6782493
go fuck yourself. they're just miniature muscles.

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>>6782493
This is him

>>6782525
maybe some day anon, just not today.

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>>6782497
Mini muscle become big muscle by lifting heavy things and putting them back down. Many many times.

>>6782531
I'll just keep with cardio until I start T, lifting my art equipment is enough for now desu

>>6780181
i'm starting at a big public college in the fall--it's a good school by west coast standards and in a big city that i love, but the whole city thing is kind of what's making me a little nervous...not even because of being trans (it's probably one of the best places in the us to be trans), just i'm used to driving everywhere and having zero available public transportation, much less anywhere within walking distance, and i'm kind of lowkey agoraphobic anyway. but maybe this will help me get over it.

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Daily reminder that you are all awesome.

And happy birthday to shamanboy.

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>tfw its your birthday, too
Where are my presents, assholes?

>>6781433
I'm starting to lift, mostly so I can counter against my babyface. Nothing worth noting, yet.

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>>6783178
Oh fine

>>6781433
Im the strongest, but alas im fat

Detrans shebro again.

The worst part of not transitioning is losing my sex drive. I had it only while I was on testosterone, and have literally not had an orgasm since I stopped.

Feels bad. Feels so bad I want to give up all this radical correctness about how to handle gender shit, and just transition again so I can have a sex drive.

I literally cried over this yesterday.

>>6783415
Why did you detransition?

>>6783415
how deep is your voice in hertz?
did you do mtf voice training or just rolling with deep man voice?

>>6783515
I realized that I do not feel like a man. I feel like a female person who is not identified with traditional womanhood. But because I do not believe in brain sex, and am generally very gender-critical, identifying as non-binary does not really work for me. I am working on reclaiming a space for very gender non-conforming wimmin to just be respected as people.

Also, T is expensive.

>>6783517
NOt sure of the hertz, but I was told I am a baritone. I keep rolling with it, and have a lot of fun singing old cowboy songs. My voice is deeper than my boyfriend's, and he is into it.

Also, I can tell that I have not posted here in forever, because I keep being surprised by not having to do a captcha.

>>6783535
I hope it is cool that I post here by the way. I am trying to quit tumblr, and I realized that I stopped posting here like right as I started T, so I never got the chance to talk about that much.

>>6782583
I was in a similar situation as you when I started college (I'm starting my 2nd year now) and you'll get used to it. It's actually so nice having places be in walking distance

>>6783535
how can you be gender-critical but still believe trans people exist? i thought that term was basically a synonym for TERF, but you don't really seem like one

>>6783918
Yeah, I am not sure what to call myself. I agree with a lot of rad fem politics, but with a huge side of being pro people-doing-what-they-want-with-their-bodies.

So, to address what you said. Of course I think trans people exist, in that there are female people who pass and live like male people within a society's gender roles, and vice versa. People who have surgeries and hormone replacements and literally make their body more like the opposite sex exist. BUt there is NOTHING more essentially male about that female person pre-transition in comparison to a"cis" girl. I see a world where identifying as a "cis" girl means identifying with the terrible porn-culture Society wants of GIrls which is a flaming sack of shit, so of course no one identifies as "cis".

I just come to transition from a different perspective. I see it (in my case) as a coping mechanism for how shitty the world is to gnc girls, and ones with ADHD. I am working on other ways of coping now.

BUt just because it did not work for me does not mean it would not work for some people. COping is coping, ya know. I do not aim to get anyone to detransition, I just want to let people who might be like me know that people like them exist.

got my first shot of nebido today guys

>>6782870

shamanboy? thanks...

>>6783178

happy birthday... how'd you spend yours?

>>6784220
>>6782870

unless you mean... >>6783178

fuck if i know... i'm drunk and high i've had jager and weed all day

>>6784300

+ i figured cuz someone here called me merlin you meant mean but then it occured to me that merlin is a wizard not a shaman...

>>6784659

me* not mean... my bad...

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>>6780158
>moonshine
HELL YEAHHHH ITS MY THREAD

I HAVE THE POWER OF GOD

>>6783215
tfw no thingy

>>6783985
stop typing like THis

>>6784749
Sorry, the shift button on my tiny chromebook sticks and I generally do not give a shit.
YOu should see my chat conversations, they are nigh on unreadable.

>>6784749
Also, way to not engage with the content.

>>6783415
So two weeks ago I missed one day of t gel though sheer absent mindedness, and the next day I felt horribly dysphoric. It was a stark reminder of how much more comfortable in my body testosterone has made me. Which leads me to my question. How did you feel on testosterone as opposed to off?
I'm asking also because you say you don't believe in "brain sex" and I'm like 60% on what you probably mean by that, but it makes me wonder if your experience with hormones isn't as night and day as mine is.
>>6783985
>BUt there is NOTHING more essentially male about that female person pre-transition in comparison to a"cis" girl.
Ok, I read the thread. Leaving a lot undefined, but if we assume the above is true, then ask why people transition, doesn't that leave us with one answer - that transition is a strategy for coping with a hostile society? You say that that covers your case, but what about mine? Coping strategy transition doesn't ring true for me at all. My whole life I experienced very little pressure to conform and discrimination because I was gender nonconforming, and I'm not an oblivious person. I Know about society. Living as a gnc girl is absolutely tenable over here. But for me, life was still like a pressure cooker and getting on testosterone relieved so much of it. Where do I fit in? Or perhaps, what is dysphoria?
More than anything still, I'm curious about your answer to the very first question, to compare hormonal experiences. If you can't be fucked with the rest of this post I don't blame you. I'm going to sleep so I might not be back to engage.

>>6785157
I fucked my paragraphs, sorry.

>>6785157
I'm not the person you're replying to I just had a similar experience with going on and off testosterone as you and wanted to share + compare it a bit. I'm not on the gel (too expensive) but I'm on a testosterone cream and because of miscommunication and my doctor being shitty I ended up going off of T for about a week and it was one of the worst experiences I've ever had.

T helps me a lot with my depression, so going off of it made my mood tank horribly. I remember being at work and feeling so bad that I moved noticeably slower. I can't remember feeling too dysphoric, probably because I was getting hit so hard by depression, but I would keep having these meltdowns where I'd keep thinking that I wouldn't be able to get back on T. I was also super irritable. Little things would piss me off and I was incredibly unpleasant to be around.

>>6785157
It is complicated, and I wish I knew the answer.

I felt very good on testosterone. Not having to deal with my menstrual cycle throw my emotions everywhere was a god send.

But it is true that I did not feel much of the sort of "finally right"ness that I hear people mention sometimes. I just liked the affects more than I felt I "needed" them. I felt clear-headed most days. I did have a few instances of reacting to feelings with like full day panic attacks instead of my usual depression. This was very concerning for me, and happened when I had just recently upped my testosterone dose.

Before I started to question things more, I also saw myself as not very pressured into femininity. But when I started passing regularly and easily as male, I noticed a difference in how I was treated, and it started to become clear the ways in which my life had been made subtly difficult, no matter how well I thought things had been before.

This also came with a LOT of internal introspection, and I think parts of that were not easy for me to accomplish before I had been transitioning and gotten to a place of feeling good enough about myself that I had the emotional distance to really examine this shit.

I am not sure why transition works long term for some people and not others, but I would definitely like to know. I do not think it is a difference in what kind of dysphoria is felt.

>>6783985
i think that's fair--i can get on board with the whole, gender is a social construct (even a harmful one; though that doesn't make it less "real"), gender is performative, there is no male or female brain thing.

but, the fact is that some people feel an intense need to change their physical sex characteristics. maybe it's not biological, but if so, how do you explain people who want to transition even if it will make their situation worse in every way, or that there are super femme trans men who take hormones but still wear makeup/enjoy feminine things, or any similar situations?

also, you say that about pre-transition "female" trans men, but do you consider post-transition/passing trans men to actually be men? i'm mostly just asking this because i almost wrote out a whole argument about it but realized it might have been completely pointless. if you don't want to get into a whole debate, that's fine, i just enjoy talking about these things.

>>6785286
>do you consider post-transition/passing trans men to actually be men?

No, but I hold a very general view of "men" as "Adult human (XY) male." This does not mean I am going to do something like disrespect pronouns or out somebody or anything, I am not I even very good at figuring out the sex of strangers. I think trans inclusive language is good, but that in some situations people who are exceptions know how they are exceptions and can figure it out. (ie "pregnant person.")

I think that trans men can do just about any part of performing social masculinity, and soak up all that conditional male privilege and be potentially shitty misogynists though. Part of what did not work out for me about transition is that I do not enjoy performing masculinity at all, I just want to look the part. When people compliment me at work and say that "I'm the man," instead of feeling happy and acknowledged, I just get terrified that they are going to find me out, and that was a lot of stress, and it felt faked.

I had been very socially dysphoric (wondering who the hell people were talking about when they said "she," stuff like that), but after basically becoming an agoraphobe and only talking to people who respect me, I realized that a lot of it was connected to people who read me as female expecting me to be like other Girls.

I did not get feminine presenting trans men when I was trans, so I have no hope of getting that now. I think that hormonal transition can work well for some people with a specific issue, but that treating not fitting with your assigned gender role, or even wanting to look more like the other sex being treated as evidence of "actually" being that sex is unhealthy in the long run for GNC kids, and trans people giving setting themselves up for disappointment on what transitioning will be like.

But if you want to be a hairy passing female who uses male pronouns and have a mastectomy because you hate your chest, I support that and long for it.

>>6785344
Your views are similar to mine, though I'm more agnostic about a root biological cause for my dysphoria than I am sure that there's no such thing. Sure as fuck doesn't help my crippling dysphoria though to tell myself that it's totally fine to be GNC, I keep getting close to an heroing over my hatred for my body and I always seriously considering transitioning anyway every 6 months or so when it flares up again. Hopefully I'll be hit by a car soon and finally know peace.

>look at mtfg
>tripfags posting "cute anime" and XD nomsense
>look at ftmg
>well thought out, nuanced, unemotional discussion of societal issues

looks like the trans meme is real

>>6783535
Lay off the TERF shit. You'll feel better. There is no cure for dysphoria but to transition.

>>6785417
That sucks. I know this is going to sound really fucking stupid, but like every person I know who detransitioned after having terrible dysphoria said that YOGA was instrumental in their new body-peace-sullshit.

I fucking hate being the person suggesting yoga, but getting more physical helped my grounding in my body more than testosterone, but testosterone also helped a bunch.

And as for being dysphoria-agnostic, while I am a stark atheist on the subject; I am also a stark atheist in real life.

>>6785449
I worry that you are right. The good news is that transition will always be available for me later if this "TERF shit" does not work out.

>>6785431
it's all weird how they're into role playing and lewding each other in text

but I stop by here b/c you guys seem cool

>>6785431
>look at ftmg
Almost as thought men are more rational and less emotional than women...

>>6785586
I think it is because males are crazy, honestly.

Men and women should just swap gender roles.

>small town
>no friends
>try to use okcupid to meet people
>can't bring myself to message anyone because I'm a 2/10 assburger and there's no reason anyone would ever want to respond to or hang out with me
>the people that are ugly enough to be on my level are rednecks with biblical references all over their profiles

I'm so fucking lonely I'm going insane. A human being isn't meant to live like this. I don't know what to do.

>>6785708
>occultic stuff
what do you mean?

>>6785461
>The good news is that transition will always be available for me later if this "TERF shit" does not work out

I've been delaying transition because of this, thankfully T will work on me at any age. Feels bad though lately because I keep getting older. I've missed out on having a 20+ years of my life as a boy and then a man, and the longer the wait the more I'm going to miss out on.

>>6785676
Can you move? Life is 200% better for gaymos in a city.

>>6784220
Happy bday, from S
Haven't been able to text, hopefully you remember me, but if not it's okay still hope your day was good

>>6785344
>>do you consider post-transition/passing trans men to actually be men?
>No, but I hold a very general view of "men" as "Adult human (XY) male."
Dishwasher anon, sadly I have lost all respect for this current you. That said, I hope you find your way out of this self-hate TERF thought politics and actually read up on the sex and gender dimorphic parts of the brain as it relates to actual transsexuals.

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>>6784220
>>6784300
Nah I meant you. Shaman title are belong to you brother.
But happy birthday to >>6783178 as well.

>>6783178
How old?
Babyface can come from water retention or too high bodyfat % too. Have you tried cutting salt and potassium from your diet to see if it works? Or if you're a bit chubby I recommend losing weight. Lifting will give you muscle, but doesn't necessarily cut fat (although it will help distribute it better).

>>6780181
Wait wait wait
If you're still here..
Which college in NH?

Are there any ftms who do the super repression thing that trans women do when they become hypermasc and fit, but become really girly and femme? And if so, do you have any pics or before/after?

>>6786510
Yeah, it's actually quite common too. Thankfully I have no pics of that dreadful time.

>>6786510
I meant to post as anon, sorry ;~;

>>6782410
>less muscle than me
Damn Elliot Rodger-chan

Female to fitmale thread when? I think a lot of us need to put on some muscle.

>>6785676

i can't meet friends through shit like that, they either wanna fuck or jump into some way too serious relationship automatically... there's better ways to meet people, just wander around outside or find stuff in your area that interests you where you're likely to meet people...

idk... i've met people just walking around and like smoking by the river...

>>6785885

thanks... and yeah i remember you, how have you been? i haven't texted just cuz i know you've got shit going on and didn't wanna bother you or lock you into having to have a conversation you know? but i don't typically forget people who i've spoke to, especially not one on one...

it was good actually i spent a good chunk of it drinking jager and smoking weed then doing this:

https://vid.me/KJEG

my mother called and put my niece on the phone, she's talking so well now she actually was able to say "happy birthday" when my mother told her too... we're seeing her saturday though...

then my s/o brought me home food from his job (it was weird getting food from somewhere outside of the house that i've eaten at before and have it be cooked by him anyway), and we had a nice night chilling by the river and whatnot... he was a little upset that my presents didn't get here on time, but that was completely my fault (i lost our card in an atm and then he had to cancel it, and then the people at the bank found it in the atm right after) so i told him not to worry about it... and late presents are always nice too

didn't do anything out of the ordinary really, but physically i couldn't have managed it anyway...


>>6786232

i don't get it, but alright then... i had a feeling lol i've been called a lot of odd things like that... though that one in particular is funny for reasons i don't feel like getting into, maybe one day

>>6786548

i used to have muscle, but i've lost a ton of it being sick and can't actually work out anymore... there's a point with working out where it'd actually make me sicker and my body just straight up couldn't handle it... it's pretty miserable, but yeah...

>>6783985
>YES I'M A FEMINIST
>I ALSO BELIEVE THE MOST SHAMEFUL THING YOU CAN BE IS A CIS GIRL

Are you seriously a feminist who hates women, wtf is wrong with you? I'm redpilled as fuck and even I don't believe this bullshit.

>>6786741

eh... i wouldn't even bother engaging in that if i were you, there's a lot of logic gaps and flaws in all of it, but they're also convinced their opinion is truth which translates into "not worth it"

>>6786764

+ though i can tell that's not exactly what they meant by that... they're talking about gender stereotypes and the idea of what a cis woman is supposed to be i guess... since apparently the fact that women are varied and different and often don't fit that is news or whatever...

>>6786548
I have strength training classes that I signed up for so I can get swole ;-;

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>>6786510
yup I was super femme for a while in high school. Got to college and overcompensated into trying to be really masc which soooo didn't work because I'm really not a masculine guy haha.

Pics are me Junior year of high school vs me a week ago (2nd year of college)

>>6786741
I do not hate women. I hate how women are treated, and I think that a lot of feminity practises (most beauty stuff) is a scam to waste women's time and money and keep them oppressed.

I think women who participate are not bad, but more misled, or just used to it because society, even though it is awful.

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>>6787586
>tfw not sure if meme or not

So after repressing myself for a while I've pretty much come to terms that I'm a trans man. I live with shitty parents who would almost certainly hurt me if I came out to them, and I don't know if I can get out any time soon. what do I do

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>>6786510
I kept long hair until high school or so, I don't think that was trying to be very girly, actually I tried to be girly harder for like 2 months in high school when I had short hair already (wore skirts and shiet) but I don't have any pictures.
I got a pic from middle school though, with long hair, and my overbite was worse at that time lol wouldn't fug

>>6786510
I kept my long hair for a long ass time and started with makeup in high school(somewhat to hide my acne, mostly because my mom and friends told me to start wearing it so I could be a "real girl"). I started wearing more feminine things that my mother picked out for me instead of the usual jeans/hoodie to school so people would quit poking fun at me for wearing the same shit every day, and I distinctly remember a friend of mine saying "wow (birth name), you're dressed like a real girl today!"

Don't have any pictures, though. I'm gross and avoid taking them.

>>6787863
not a meme buddy

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>>6787868
My advice: prison hardcore mode. Get hold of as much info about transitioning as possible, start saving up money, hatch a plan on how to make everything happen when you finally get financially independent and move out.
Don't tell them until you're out and away from their reach, and use this time to plan everything to perfection. Can't stress the money saving bit enough. Hide money in matress if you need to. Shit will get expensive, both living and transitioning, so get ahead on it.

>>6787924
Not that anon but boy, you do have meme glasses for sure. The SJW ones

>>6787953
this
also purple hair

>mfw went to the school and got to choose what bathrooms I want to use
>mfw I can change in the males locker rooms

living the life here dudes

>>6788018
>tfw look like a guy so you just go to the male bathrooms without telling anybody you're ftm

> tfw i like to wear a little bit of nude lipstick to cover up my lips because i hate how big they are
does this make me any less of a man? i feel like it does.

>>6788018
>>6788032

i try like hell to avoid using public bathrooms, but when i do i just use whichever one is cleaner... that's all i actually give a shit about when it comes to a public bathroom anyway...

>>6788059
if i'm the only one in there, i don't feel too bad about using a women's washroom. if there are a lot of people in there though i feel like i'm being invasive of their privacy though.

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>>6788032
>tfw looking too androgynous for female bathrooms and male bathrooms both
>tfw having to use the one for disabled people
>tfw the actual disabled people at work hates me for this.

>>6788032
I just had to tell the principal and the teachers, otherwise I pas pretty good desu.

>>6788059
I always use the male bathroom when anywhere thats not home.

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>>6786510
I go through cycles of being super femme and super masc. I'm way the fuck more comfortable being masculine though, I think for now I'm just gonna settle into the dyke role until I can get surgery sorted (I really want top surgery before hormones).

Pic related is an old pre-t before and after.

>>6788078
wew lad you look cool as a dude but as a grill you looked good too, nice boobs
also cool cap

>>6788064

eh can't say i see it as invasive regardless, i wouldn't think anything of it if i seen someone of either gender go into either bathroom if the other one was gross... and i think it's weird that people see it as a big deal...

but anyway i care more about having an internal meltdown and possibly an external one in somewhere filthy than i do about anything else...

though i prefer bathrooms to be empty cuz i hate people watching me wash my hands and not touch door handles and whatnot... people really fucking examine that shit

>>6788076

i just honestly don't really give a shit... worst case scenario is some people feel pretty sure i'm a cis girl...and that's better than the alternative i don't really care what people i don't know think when they see me anyway...

>>6788153
>>6788076

+ or pretty sure i'm a transgirl... i've gotten that before too... but either way there's worse shit for people to think, and it's worth it considering the alternative...

you're talking to someone who once got so sick in a movie theatre i was sitting on the bathroom floor throwing up and couldn't get up cuz of the amount of pain i was in... like i went to the hospital that night and shit... and the worst part of that night was honestly sitting on that floor the entire time wondering when they last mopped it, and whether or not they did a good job...

>>6786510
i did a little bit, i decided that maybe i just hated my body because i was fat (even though i was in a healthy weight range) and tried to wear skirts and shit that emphasized my hips, also obnoxious pastel colors were really in at the time. and i wore makeup for a time even though i hated it because i was kind of desperate for male attention. but it didn't take long to realize none of it suited me at all, and i was much more comfortable dressing androgynous.

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>>6788078
Cute and melancholic

>>6787885
Cheeky fucker

>>6787586
Cuddlebunny

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>>6788078
....cute

>>6788049
eh, i still wear foundation sometimes to cover up the skin damage on my face or my horrific dark circles. though i'm also 100% closeted.

it's basically just subtle face paint, no one can tell and if it helps you relieve dysphoria then that's what's important.

>>6785274
>I hold a very general view of "men" as "Adult human (XY) male."
That's not a very general view, that's a definition with little to no utility other than denying trans people their identity. Sharper minds have deconstructed the chromosome angle better than I could, you should look it up.

>do just about any part of performing social masculinity, and soak up all that conditional male privilege and be potentially shitty misogynists
I'm reading between the lines, but I get this sense that you think hormones and male passing is born out of/leads to a "Fuck you, got mine" mentality.

>I did not get feminine presenting trans men [before], so I have no hope of getting that now.
So this is interesting. What doesn't add up?
>hormonal transition can work well for people with a specific issue
What issue?
>treating not fitting with your assigned gender role, or wanting to look more like the other sex being treated as evidence of "actually" being that sex is unhealthy for GNC kids
IMO insisting I be a normal non-conforming girl and accusing me of giving in to the patriarchy when I expressed trans feelings was pretty harmful. I spent my childhood in a spiralling depression, almost completely avoidable had the adults around me set aside their ideology and taken me seriously as a person.
>trans people setting themselves up for disappointment
Most trans people do extensive research. Or are you thinking of something in particular?

What bothers me is your apparent dismissal of a biological cause and only accepting the idea of transition as a social escape. If we're indeed experiencing the same dysphoria, consider what you're projecting onto me, on top of what I have told you about me.
Had I had no dysphoria I could have lived well as a gnc woman in my country. Reread that until you believe me for a minute.
You're polite, but you are nevertheless shitting on people's lived experiences here, tossing out puzzle pieces that don't fit.

>>6787708
>I hate how women are treated?
By who exactly? Can't be the judicial system, which punishes women far less than it does men for the same crimes.
>I think women who participate are not bad, but more misled, or just used to it because society, even though it is awful.
Holy shit, I bet you literally think all these women are brainwashed into doing this stuff by the mysterious "patriarchy." They couldn't possibly really be into that stuff, could they? No, they surely can't make their own decisions and are just being guided by the omnipresent invisible guiding hand of the patriarchy.
Why? Because you think it's an oppressive scam, a waste of time and money, and that is a FACT!

When did these threads get such an influx of SJW cultists?

>>6788089
I actually lost that hat, I'm really upset about it. I don't have the money for a new one. Such is life.

>>6788176
>Cheeky fucker
>tfw kinda accurate
Gotta overcompensate for girly looks

>>6783985
>BUt there is NOTHING more essentially male about that female person pre-transition in comparison to a"cis" girl.
>more essentially male
>female to male
>to male
>>6785344
>male privilege
this isn't Saudi Arabia
>"i'm not like the other girls desu~"
>trans people setting themselves up for disappointment
obviously you're referring to yourself here
sounds like feminist theory has given you autism and PTSD

>>6788197
i suppose you're right. i just naturally end up questioning every little thing i do as being unmasculine due to dysphroia. even if it has nothing to do with gender in the first place. i have a lot of trouble not putting myself for being unmasculine or having girly hobbies.

>>6788049
Nah. Although applying makeup is seen as feminine behavior, there's plenty of guys who do it along with grooming their entire bodies to what I'd consider an excessive extent. But it's also normal behavior for a lot of young men in my city.

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>>6788236
You pass though. At least in the pic you posted.

>>6788261
Same here. I've even gotten to the poing i sleep with a pillow between my legs 'cause sleeping with them while they're touching 'is too femme'.

>>6788333
Nice trips. Also yeah, most of the time, friends always make fun of me saying I look like a middle schooler though ;_; especially those who don't know I'm ftm, lol

>>6788333
You can still pass and look feminine to some extent. See: Femboys Article

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>>6788363
Looking young isn't a bad thing especially as you get older. So long as you look masc you're safe.

>>6788368
But it's different for bio males though. They have to repair trest damage while we can start on the blank slate of estrogen. Or nah?

>>6784220
Went to a cat cafe, cool as shit. Hanged out with the familia, too, nothing special really.

>>6786232
Eighteen.
I'm already down a bit by around 50lbs, but I still look 12, so I'm hoping muscle will show I'm a bit older.

>>6786510
I never did, but I did try to push myself into the tomboy shit, rather than transitioning, for a while.

>>6788437
I guess. The girl who has a crush on me and whom I plan to ask out looks young af too so we're a good match, looking like two teenagers. heh
My facial structure is girly, I got twinky build and about 5'7 height so I'll never get manly but it works, I suppose. Maybe when more facial hair comes along I'll pass all the time.

>>6788437
>But it's different for bio males though. They have to repair trest damage while we can start on the blank slate of estrogen. Or nah?
It can come out looking very similar. Given proper grooming/presentation.

>>6788078
Dang

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>>6788507
>18
How does coming of age feel? Congrats on the weightloss my dude.
Muscle will definetly help. The vascularity gains alone will do loads of differense.

>>6788529
If you're twinky putting on muscle will masc you up more. Will also impress the qt. Easier to get than to wait for hair gains imo.

>>6788562
But transguys try to look more male while femboys try to look fem or andro. Even if the builds can be similar most of us try to counteract it and masc up. Still not getting the comparison.

>>6788674
Actually I got some facial hair already (visible on the picture under the chin a bit I guess) so I'm hoping more will come soon, but ya I could use some muscle. I keep telling myself that but I just don't have the willpower to start eating more/healthier I guess. Sigh

>>6788049

nothing wrong with that... some guys wear makeup, no big deal... it's not my thing, but i don't see why that would change anything

>>6788507

are cats just out or what in those? like fur getting all in your food and shit?

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>>6786510
Not in personality, but in looks yes. Pic related is me before and after.

>>6789134
You're pretty cute yo

>>6789141
thanks, I was just endlessly grateful that I passed irl despite being pre-T

>>6789073
i've been to a cat cafe in toronto. they have a separate area where the cats are

also thank you! yeah, i guess makeup isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things.

>>6789199
You're not even on mones? Damn son. You've got good bone structure.

>>6784093
Congrats

>>6789249
Got my first injection yesterday lol, so I can finally say I'm on mones now, but yeah definitely not when that picture was taken, no.

>>6789234

well that's not as bad as it could be at least... though the workers and people walk back and forth between the areas i imagine... in which case cat is being tracked everywhere and there's probably still a good chance of there being fur in the food... couldn't eat at one...

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>>6789296
>>6784093
Oops, didn't see that. Congratulations are in order!

>>6789296
You'll have to show us another pic in a month or so. I'd love to see your progress. I thought I had pretty manly looks before starting and felt blessed with my genetics, which was also a reason for starting T later than most guys these days, but now that I look at those older pics, I see andro-femme at best.

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/ftmg/ movie night when?
>pic probably unrelated

>>6789273
>>6789352
Cheers m80s

>>6789359
I feel the same way about older pictures of myself, when I first started dressing masculine and "trying" to pass, I thought I looked really boyish and masc lol. Looking back I looked so feminine lol, like not even a dykey girl, just a girl with short hair lol. Even that pic on the right is more femme than I am now, in terms of styling. The slightly longer hair was making me feel dysphoric and paranoid though, so I don't really miss the pretty-boy look.

>>6789434

make it happen...

>>6789359
>>6789436
I passed as male, never called she but I did have a more feminine face than I realized at the time. Now that I've been on T for half a year I can see how feminine my faced looked before. I still have a ways to go though, I still have some feminine features.

Also I got my endo to up my dose to stop my period :^)

>>6789483
Yeah at this point I pass most of the time but when I start speaking usually people try to subtly shift back to she/girl etc. But voice is generally the first thing to go on T so I'm hoping that little problem will be fixed up sooner rather than later. Can't wait for T to help with some of this baby fat on my face either.

I'm lucky that my period is only every 2 months (if it decides to come at all), I get the feeling it'll stop pretty quickly for me because of that. Idk though. Not a doctor.

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>>6789465
>>6789434
Method: Download the movie locally, then sync start through irc chat or discord maybe. Is there a better way?

Need:
A movie
A time&date

What's a good movie to riff on, or should we watch something actually good

>mfw I have no images

>>6789521

idk never done it... and i have unlimited free time so i don't really care when, that'd be up to other people who are interested...

the only bad movie i can think of is one i wouldn't tell anyone to watch ever cuz it's fucking horrible (the begotten) ... good movies are fine too though...

someone tried to start movie nights a long time ago... it only happened once though... i can't remember all the movies i was only around for a boy and his dog but there were 2 others...

>>6789199
You're not even on T yet in that pic? Im super happy for you, but I also hate you a little because I'm a petty cunt.

>>6789521
could make fun of one of those shit movies about trans guys that are all "I used to be jennifer and now im.... johnifer"

>>6789647

those exist? probably no worse than most lgbt movies i imagine... those either suck or are miserable... never anything in between, and even the miserable ones are sorta... there's better miserable movies...

>>6789693
yeah it's all that stuff written by people who aren't trans, acted by people who aren't trans. so overwrought

>>6789703
oh eh... i never watch that kinda shit... lgbt movies aren't really about anything i'd typically watch so they never interest me... they're not usually ever just movies where someone happens to be lgbt, they're always centered around that instead and i think that's kinda annoying...

>>6789772

+ i also don't assume a movie would be better if lgbt writers or actors were involved... they'd still probably be equally not interesting to me

>>6789775

+ i just figure there aren't really many trans movies at all

>>6789789
There aren't and a lot of them are "waaaaaah being trans is HORRIBLE all the time" and nothing else

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>>6789555
Summer would have been ideal, huh.

Well, there's still the weekend with all the shut-ins ITT.

/Would/ y'all come to movie night? Ok, but would you come if you weren't expected to do more than lurk?

Need suggestions for time zone/hours, or suggestions on how to organize this. Gather some movies and timezones in straw polls?

Suggest movies and times, boys.

Some stuff off the top of my head:
Troll Hunter (a found footage style suspense flick I guess?)
Mortal Kombat (it's bonkers)
The Raid (we overcompensating. nonstop violence w/ good good choreography)

>>6789647
>johnifer
cracked me up
>>6789703
I refuse to be rused into watching boys don't cry.

>tfw the tradition of good posters got killed by Y2K

>>6789789
There aren't especially not for trans men. The closest I've ever found was that one short movie called Emile I think? It was a French short about a teenaged trans dude still living at home. That was what got me thinking that I might be trans, actually.

>>6789134
Cute guy.

>>6789873
>tfw Hockeybot never called you a cute guy

>>6789911
My opinions aren't important. Im sure you're cute too though.

>>6789945
I AM cute, thanks very much.

Your opinion is important to me ;_;

>>6789693
>>6789647
there's the one about the trans dude who was murdered in the 90s...though maybe it's in bad taste to make fun of it since it was based off a real person

>>6789800
i'd at least lurk and make a few comments here and there. west coast, but i have infinite free time anyway

john carpenter type horror movies are always good group watches, how about the thing or reanimator?

Never posted in /lgbt/ but would I still fit in here if im a femboy?
I'm probably never gonna go on T because i have just enough T in my system to look andro but I def wanna chop off my useless titties.

>>6789794

yeah nah... fuck that

>>6789800

master of the flying guillotine

>>6789801

never heard of it... i can typically handle watching shorts though... cuz they're not long enough to get too sick of

>>6790020

the one with hilary swank? nah... i don't like looking at her, and that's just trans misery shit... i never saw all of the movie, but i know about the shit it was based on

>>6790057

i'd watch the reanimator again its been a while... i haven't seen the thing since i was like 4 or so, don't remember it... there's also dead alive as far as bad horror movies go...

>>6790161

whatever makes you happy...

>>6790161
+ no one's gonna care what you are, and you'll fit in well enough if you talk...

>>6790011
Let hockey see

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>tfw to qt ftm to cuddle with

>>6790230
That's good. Sorry. Got kind of anxious when all the posts i skimmed thru were about getting ripped.

>want to take my grandpa's middle name when I legally change my shit because it's unique to the family and p cool
>sends me transphobic memes in his deluge of conservapolitics and Trump support emails that he spams his contacts with
....SO HOW'D YOU GUYS PICK MIDDLE NAMES, CAUSE I GOTTA FIGURE SOMETHING ELSE OUT.

>>6790243

eh... if it makes you feel any better i have long hair and love flowers...

>>6789800
>>6790210
+ total recall (the original), sympathy for mr vengeance, the wickerman (nick cage one not the original)

>>6790210
>master of the flying guillotine
I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT THE FUCK THAT WAS CALLED, THANK YOU!

I only saw a clip as a preview at Alamo Drafthouse but I've been wanting to watch it with the roomie, shit looked ridic and also badass.

>>6790290
>the wickerman (nick cage one not the original)

This fucking classic.

>>6790236
I'd only cuddle with an ftm after they've wrestled me into submission.

>Two and a Half Men apparently had an episode with a trans guy
>IT WAS WELL DONE (for what it was)
I'm using this to explain to my relatives and at least start a dialogue. Thoughts?

Season 1 episode 16 "An old flame with a new wick"

>>6790944
I remember that episode. He says his balls are made of Teflon iirc. It would probably help break the ice if nothing else.

>>6790161
I'm a andro/fem (cis) guy who comes here to see the masc side of the trans coin

Okay so let's say gay marriage isn't legal and I have sex with an transboy and then his vajj still works and we use it.

Could the kid legally stay with us and would the US allow us to raise him?

>>6790257
Why do you need a middle name?

>>6789134
You look better as a boy

And you still looked attractive as a grill

>>6791134
>still

>>6791134
>dual modes
anyone here able to pass as both?

>>6789873
ty ty
>>6791134
>You look better as a boy
That's the best thing people can say desu, thanks.

>>6789604
Yeah I'm lucky in that respect. Unlucky in that I have naturally wide hips though, so don't feel too bad.

>>6790944
I just watched it after seeing your post, and you're right it was fairly well done. Some good jokes in there, even if it was a bit hacky especially with the "man trapped in a woman's body" line.
But I say give it a watch with them, it might be fun.

>>6788078

How the fuck do you natty pass this well as both sexes? It's not even that you're just androgynous, you look legit 100% male and 100% female depending on the photo.

>>6789134
Doubling down on >>6792191

I fucking hate you people. I mean that in the best possible way and wish you nothing but the best of course, but sheesh.

>>6789521

She's The Man, of course.

>>6791117
You don't have to get married to have a kid.

>>6792191
Why wouldn't he? It's obviously easy to pass as a female with a female body while you're still living as one. And you can basically sit back and let testosterone do all the work for you when it comes to passing as male.

>>6791117

You don't need to marry anyone to raise your own kid.

>>6792213
>Why wouldn't he? It's obviously easy to pass as a female with a female body while you're still living as one. And you can basically sit back and let testosterone do all the work for you when it comes to passing as male.

But he's not even on T yet is my point, unless I've read it wrong.

>>6792191
>>6792202
You know that when it comes to pictures, a lot of it depends on the angle and lighting? I'm neither of those guys, but one of the pictures of the first guy, and the picture of the second guy, notice there's a similar angle. If I take picture at this angle (from above, side of face) I also look manlier than a more neutral shot

>>6792229
Oh you're totally right, he's not on T yet. I just failed to read the post properly.
But passing pre-T is a bit hit and miss really. Even if you pass visually as a 13yo boy there's always gonna be the voice to give you away, and that's if your body passes too.
The two guys quoted recently both have good faces for passing without T. Strong noses and jawlines, and nothing really feminine about their dress/presentation to off-set the dude-vibe.
Although I don't think it's actually that difficult for most bio females to pass as young boys, given they're slim enough or dress well enough to hide any curves.

>>6792274
This also rings very true. And you can be sure people posting pics are posting their better pictures. It reminds me of some gay blog I stumbled upon a while ago, and one of the posts was photos of this guy's face (he wasn't trans) from various different angles to show how those angles accentuated his face to make him look more masculine or feminine, entirely dependant on the angle of the photograph.
So there's definitely that to keep in mind with these photos. It's just one angle of a person and it also doesn't account for their mannerisms, voice, or personality etc., all important factors for passing.

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>>6792332
Yup, there's also a thing about your left side of face always looking better + your expressions, which on selfies can be easily adjusted just like the angle and lighting. Pic related. And I posted a front shot earlier, too: >>6787885

Btw how photos translate to real life is always a question I ask myself, I guess they'll never be a solid representation of a person due to being a flat and still picture.
>tfw know girls who look completely different on photos than irl

>glance in mirror while changing
>who's that dyke in my bathroom
>oh wait, yeah

>trying to judge how I disguise the figure
>hips and stuff not noticeable from higher vantage point
>well I'm short so everyone's at a higher vantage point
>but at any distance, yep, still there

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I don't know if I should feel bad or not that I've just been sitting here and drawing almost 12 hours now with no sleep.

>>6792332
I really know what you mean with the angles making your face pass or not. I used to do that shit when I was more insecure about my appearance than I am now pic related was and still is kinda my favorite pic of my face just because of the angle and the lighting making me look more masc. (passgen said I didn't pass though lmfao)

>>6792403
Im 5'5'', imagining your about the same probably.
I suggest wearing more fitting or one size up male tshirts or button ups (NOT FUCKING PLAID) and well fitting but not skinny jeans. worked for me. Also try really hard to find a haircut that fits your face in a masculine way.
make sure the shirts go over your hips btw

>>6792396

Are you pursing your lips or do they just look like that?

>>6792409
I think in many trans people case with pictures it's always a hit or miss. One person is going to clock you right away, another one will not doubt you're male/female. Like >>6792332 said important factors of passing are also voice, mannerism, personality, posture, all that stuff.
>tfw one time a girl saw pictures of me before meeting me and she clocked me, but after she met me she wasn't sure anymore and assumed I'm a cis dude until I told her the truth
>>6792426
Don't know if I exactly get what you mean, but they do look weird, my dad also has weird lips and I took after him.

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>>6792396
I actually think your right side, the pic on the left, looks better out of the two there, heh. But there's also something about portraits of people, shown to them as if they were a mirror, being more attractive than if they were flipped the actual correct way around, due to being so used to seeing your face like that.
>Btw how photos translate to real life is always a question I ask myself, I guess they'll never be a solid representation of a person due to being a flat and still picture.
Depending on the lens, a camera can give you an extreme distortion of reality.
Pic very related.

>>6792409
What have you been drawing? Why do all the FtMs draw including myself?
Also, I've seen pics of you before. I think you pass best with the shorter hair, but that's a nice pic and I like your taste in chunky headphones.

>>6792452
>I think in many trans people case with pictures it's always a hit or miss
>One person is going to clock you right away, another one will not doubt you're male/female.
Generally if people are posting pictures within the context of passing, or some kind of transgender discussion, then the viewer is probably going to be much more discerning of subtle hints of masculinity/femininity than the viewer who has no transgender context to go along with the picture.

>>6792628
The pic on the left is "my" left side actually, the moles are on "my" right, the pic is just mirrored since it's a selfie. I mean "your" left usually looks better, if ya get what I mean cause sides can get confusing l-lol. The front shot was in the mirror but I flipped it for better comparison so it's my "actual" face
And yeah guess lenses also change a lot.

Speaking of drawing, I also do draw, and yeah noticed plenty of ftms do. Maybe 'cause it makes a nice escapism hobby?

>>6792628
working on anatomy and drawabox, just finished a portrait right now. wish my camera wasnt so shit so I could show you

Hi, ftmg, sorry for interrupting. I'm just a butchy cis woman.

How differently do people treat you when you present as male, compared to when they thought you were female? Not how did they react when you transitionned, more like, what're the general differences in attitude towards guys and towards girls? I'm asking there because I presume most of you have seen both sides of the fence. I keep reading "bluh bluh being a woman is the hardest" on the tumblr side of things and "bluh bluh woman is easy mode" on the 4chan side of things, when I just have the impression both sides assume infantilizing women and over-demanding from men is the most natural thing in the world.

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>>6792425
I'm in 5'1" hell, my friend. I should buy some new clothes but man, I am bad at it. I'm just glad it's summer because it's easier to find men's shorts that fit than jeans and shit.

>>6792698
I was treated like a man in a wig because I legit looked like it, so I didn't have any friends or whatever. Now I have a lot of friends and people treat me like a normal human though that may just be because the lace I now live at is a friendly environment. I don't really remember because I kinda blocked those early years off.

>>6792710
try getting shirts a size bigger and wearing well fit but not tight pants.

>>6792710
fuck sorry, didn't realize you were the same person didn't mean to repeat myself. still tho, do that thing I just said.

>tfw /femgen/ is only for twinky femboys instead of feminine guys in general
>they probably think trans guys are 'cheaters' anyway

>>6792698
Hard to say. Of course it is easier to have men interested in you as a OK looking woman that to have girls interested in you as a girly but still somewhat OK guy, so I believe girls have it easier when it comes to dating because I had men interested in me despite me not being interested at all + I was a gloomy type.
On general attitude there's many other factors. Getting masculine looks and ability to function as a guy made me more extroverted, outspoken and confident. I got plenty of friends and flirt with girls now as opposed to before, but it has a lot to do with how I wasn't fun person to be around before, it isn't exactly tied to the gender, more to the fact I can "bee muhself" now

>>6790257
Don't worry. My father's ordered me to stop using the family surname.

is Buck Angel the only ftm pornstar? not really into the daddy thing.

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>>6792829
Of course not. There's a few famous ones, namely Kipp Slinger, Dicky Johnson, Syd St. Vincent, Chance Armstrong, and my personal favourite Viktor Belmont. Pic related. I think these guys are all from the Bonus Hole Boys company, though I'm sure there's others.
FtM as a porn genre seems to really be coming into its own in the last 5 years huh? I'm certain there will only be more of this in the future too.

>>6792191
>>6792202
maybe some troll used pic of different sex fraternal twins

>>6792953
awesome, thanks.

i'm bi so i like all types, there's a plethora of dickgirls but the other end of the scale seems really lacking which is a shame.

>>6792698

Being a man is way easier but being a woman in my family was horrible. They kept on trying to make me shave my legs, grow my hair, r otherwise act girlier than I wanted. Alas I come off as a very fem guy so I was screwed either way.

>>6789789

I can name over a dozen. Probably two dozen.

>>6789801

Romeos also exists.

>>6792698
Pretty sure the "women is easy mode" meme comes from direct opposition to the premise that women are actually oppressed in western societies. And it's pretty factual in that sense when you see that women are going to college and graduating more than boys now, getting better grades, and earning more than males the same age as them. Not to mention things like custody, abortion rights, and how they are charged less for the same crimes as men.

But to get back to your question, I didn't live so much as an adult woman but I'll try to contrast what I remember from back then to what I experience since transitioning/passing.
>More aggression directed towards me from guys I don't know. This is literal angry strangers on the street either glaring or talking shit.
>More violence directed towards me. Been in a few situations that would have escalated into a fight if it wasn't diffused, although there wouldn't have been a fight if I were still a woman since it's not socially acceptable to hit women.
>Hit on a lot less, and exclusively by gay/bi men.

>>6792661
>I also do draw, and yeah noticed plenty of ftms do. Maybe 'cause it makes a nice escapism hobby?
I reckon that's part of it, although it's something I've always done from being a small child, so I'm not so sure. I read something a while ago that suggests females might have a propensity for art/drawing, but I got no sources on that at the moment so it may as well be a crazy fringe theory. After all, all the masters who painted fine art way back when we're pretty much all dudes, were they not?

Also what do you like drawing?

>>6792680
I'd like to see if you can sort out a good shot at some point, but no worries. Sounds like you're practising though? Trying to improve your abilities or just enjoy the exercises?
Personally I find those line exercises, or "redraw X shape 100 times" to be extremely boring. But I do love figure and gesture drawing for learning anatomy and such.

>>6793124
>>6789801
I saw Romeos too! And a short on youtube about two FtM Londoners who started seeing each other, but neither knew that the other was FtM. Without spoilers, it was disappointing.
There's also a short youtube series about FtMs called Brothers, too.

Anyone got any more?

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>>6793267
There's plenty of dude artists, yep. In the history it may be due to lack of gender equality, but even nowadays. On another note, girls really like when the guy is some kind of an artist, I noticed. Though I think music players are more popular than those who just draw.
>Also what do you like drawing?
Mostly animu stuff t b h famalam, though sometimes I like to try to paint some background for all these animu characters. Pic related
I got a thing for making /comfy/ drawings with couples.

As for ftms in movies/TV shows, gotta look through the "list of transgender characters in film and television" on wikipedia kek. It's mostly transwomen, as expected. I suppose transmen are boring.
I'd love to see some normal guy character in some action/adventure TV show to turn out to be ftm, and him be like, who cares what I have in my pants, we gotta save the world
Would be cool

>>6790257
honestly I'm probably not gonna have a middle name when I change my name legally

>>6793267
>Speaking of drawing, I also do draw, and yeah noticed plenty of ftms do. Maybe 'cause it makes a nice escapism hobby?

Yeah I've noticed a lot of trans/gay people are artists of some kind. I'm in art school and just about every other person is gay or trans. Probably a good dose of escapism and it's the sort of hobby you can have that doesn't require being around people

>>6793327
>gender inequality affecting men
Go back to /pol/ shitlord.

>>6793327
>I'd love to see some normal guy character in some action/adventure TV show to turn out to be ftm, and him be like, who cares what I have in my pants, we gotta save the world

i've had a story in my head for a long time now that features a male character with an ftm bodytype. though he isn't transgender. it's a low fantasy setting where there's a place where women were being born less and less and natural selection/magic produced males with the equipment to bear children.

it actually started out as Star Wars fanfiction, he gets cryo-frozen for a long ass time and the galaxy develops without him really getting a handle on what technology existed way back when. i think that's more of what i find interesting, less the dysphoria or transition and more just that alienation. creating a human character who is an alien among aliens. seeing him navigate relationships with other guys, treading into romance when even his body might be strange to some of the aliens out there.

>>6793703
I meant there's more of artist guys in the history due to gender inequality at the time. No idea what's so /pol/ about that

>>6793703
>can't even mention men without some feminist nut responding to a point that wasn't even made

Any bros in Pittsburgh? I need a work out/hiking buddy.

>>6793183

Cismale here, very interesting post. TERFs always talk about women becoming ftm to escape male violence, but like I suspected being "male" can make a woman more vunerable to violence and aggression, just of a different sort.

Even your comment about being stared at and shit talked to can be contrasted with feminists whining about men staring at them and making lewd comments or giving feedback on appearances. The grass is greener on the other side because its growing in a pile of shit.

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>>6792191
It's makeup and angles mostly, to be honest. I don't usually pass as a guy day-to-day.

>>6793267

I can't think of any others specifically about ftm characters off the back of my head but I know movies exist. Not as many as mtf characters but they do.

I finished Bambi and it was good. The movie is better though and, dang, the book is bitter. Bambi is really angry and he's a loner, deadbeat dad as well.

>>6790161

Tbqh, /ftmg/ is not the manliest general out there in the first place. I'm quite fem myself but I don't like looking skinny and cutesy. I could buy a Hello Kitty hoodie but I don't wanna look loke a girl. Thus, /femgen/ wouldn't accept me because I wanna be a bearmode and am not borderline-nonbinary.

>>6794265
You got great hair

>>6794265
You do not have big hips

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>>6794373
Not anymore, unfortunately. I buzzed it all off, I can't tell if I like it or not. It'll grow back though.

>>6794607
I just take good pictures. Pic related is what I actually look like (I've posted these before). Goddamn hourglass and giant tits.

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>>6794607
>tfw i like guys with big hips anyway

>>6794753
It's a little bit because I'm chubby, but my hips are super wide. There's almost no give to the widest part of my thighs, right below my pelvis. I'm so fucked. But at least I have a good face for this, I guess.

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>>6793267
decided to take a pic despite shitty camera. It looks a lot better in real life desu.

>>6794819
aesthetic

>>6794819
Fuck you, man. That's amazing. And here I was like "oh yes I can draw some things, I am a very good draw-er"

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>>6794819
fuck lips in general tbqh pham

>>6794824
that just says I love penis btw
>>6794827
well I do plan on doing art as a job.

also made this before computer went to the shitter

>>6781433
Squat 3 pl8
Bench 125 lbs
OHP 120 lbs
Deadlift 3 pl8

5'4" just shy of 5"
145 pounds

It's a hobby.

Mostly my legs are just German speed cyclist tier

>>6794833
Don't define the top lip with a solid line.

Pro tips

Did you use a reference
Did you draw a bunch of skulls and skinless faces to get the structure down first.
Do you care about anatomy.

These are essential things.

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>>6794852
yes
yes
and yes

I accidently made too heavy a line on the lip so it looks weird as fuck. I have a few pages dedicated to just jaws actually and old sketchpads full of lips. I know how to draw lips but in my sleep deprived state I fucked up completely. heres the ref if you want to know.

>>6794867
Whelp just keep it up I guess. You definitely need to work on your structure and planning. Try more pen work so you keep forcing yourself to make well thought out lines with every stroke.

Keep filling up sketch pads with structural anatomy and gesture work. Every day you can fit in at least an hour of that. Try thick charcoal in your warm up or quick sketches. Helps with decisive strokes and line weight.

This is ok for a first year student.

I've done illustration for years and tried to do it professionally before switching careers to geology. Still draw in my (very sparse) free time.

>>6794033
also, there's a higher chance of facing violence if you're trans ESPECIALLY if you don't pass

>>6794753
relatively speaking you're hips aren't too bad. You've got the tiny waist but that's easier to hide with clothes and pics

>>6795156
Yeah, they always look huge when I wear loose fitting shirts though. But if I don't wear loose fitting shirts, then my chest sticks out.

Such is life. Haaahahaha kill me.

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Looking for bf that's into tiny greasy semi passing mtfs

>>6795333
too bad i'm an ugly fat guy

>>6795333
I'll be ur bf

>>6789647
Not the person you were talking to but funny thing is, my old name was Jennifer and now some of my friends call me John.

>>6792698
I work in hospitality and catering and have done since before when I presented as female, and I work in a lot of different venues so see a lot of different people each shift.

Firstly I would say that the majority of people don't particularly treat me any differently, however most of the difference in treatment comes from men.

As a girl, men would tend to baby me a little a bit? Well in my view they did, but they were probably just trying to be nice. That's probably the main difference that I noticed; men being generally softer to me. It's not that they're rude now, they're just polite and friendly in a different way. Whereas before they were softer in the way they talked or offered help, now they're just plain friendly.

>>6791244
Yeah, as of now. I look pretty androgynous and am read as a young boy but if I were to tell someone I'm a girl, they'd believe me too (in some cases maybe not as easily but after a minute of reassuring it'd probably be fine).

>>6795333
How tall are you?

>>6795333
w2c shirt?

>>6792698
I'm pretty early on in my transition and currently pass as a young boy so I don't think I can give an entire answer, but here goes.

Back when people saw me as a girl, I was definitely treated in a more fragile way by guys (even though I didn't act that way at all). Ever notice how guys seem a little bit on edge and not really completely themselves when there's a girl in the group? That thing where you can tell they're holding back because they don't want to weird you out or something. I had that a lot and it pissed me off, to be honest.

Now, I don't know about other guys since my experience with this seems to be entirely different, but ever since I started passing, I became a lot more popular. Before, pretty much nobody was interested in me. A few straight guys (and by a few, I honestly mean that) but that's it. Now I get a lot of girls after me. The community I hang around seems to often have queer people so I end up with a lot of bi/pan girls that like me but there's also been a straight girl or two. It was really weird, literally the moment I started passing it's like I suddenly became attractive. Guys don't bother me now.

What other guys say about aggression is definitely true. People are less afraid to show aggression towards me (even though I look young). In the past, people would be afraid to even show any sign of it. I'm also expected to be more dominant, especially around girls. Before, I was expected to be submissive. Very submissive.

Don't know if I forgot anything but that pretty much sums it up.

>listening to delicious 70s music
>all those fab afros
>my afro is crappy and poorly kept

I wish I could have a perfectly puffy fro but that requires actually combing my hair frequently. I'm too lazy to take care of my hair but I hate short hair. I tried cornrows and it feels like torture.

>>6795581
>Ever notice how guys seem a little bit on edge and not really completely themselves when there's a girl in the group? That thing where you can tell they're holding back because they don't want to weird you out or something. I had that a lot and it pissed me off, to be honest.

i'm a cis guy who was more or less raised by women so i don't have this problem. but even i see it in other men all the time and it bugs the shit out of me.

>>6795642
Well, to be entirely honest with you, I do it a bit too. But that's because I don't hang around girls who are cool with that kind of stuff. When I hang around girls, they generally don't even swear and really are weirded out by some things. I hold back (or not) depending on the person, really. With guys I don't do it quite as much but generally the guys I hang around are not weirded out by the shit I say. On the odd occasion I do come across it, I hold back then too. Unless I'm in a group where most people don't care. Then I just do whatever I want, unless I'm trying to make a good impression which really doesn't happen often.

>>6795681
>Unless I'm in a group where most people don't care. Then I just do whatever I want, unless I'm trying to make a good impression which really doesn't happen often.

i just do that all the time. in highschool i hung out with the most laidback group of chicks (and people in general really) because of it.

For those of you on T:

Were/are you on a low/med/high dose?
How fast did changes (in general) start happening?
When did you first notice any voice changes?
How long for fat redistribution to start?

And lastly, a lot of guys say their skin got oilier and they had more acne but in my case I'm getting less of that now. Anyone else had that happen or at least know why?

>>6795842
I'm on the starting dose (can't remember exactly how much) I've been on it for almost 6 months. I'm just gonna list all the changes I've had so far cause idk what all you wanna know

-increased sex drive pretty much immediately, balanced out by being on zoloft which killed my sex drive
-increased body hair. not cis guy level but noticeably increased from my practically nonexistent hair. Also have a tiny shitty teen mustache now.
-Increased muscle mass almost immediately before I even started hitting the gym
-periods seem to have stopped! this is recent

all in all it was gradual, but changes were immediate. Voice change has been really minor but happened around 3-4 months I think. It's not very deep but it's starting to get androgynous sounding according to others. I don't hear it though. I have noticed in the last month that I'm losing my upper range. Voice cracks all over the place

Fat redistribution is practically nonexistent. Gained some in my midsection but haven't lost my hips or thighs (will probably take a while, I've got big hips) I can post pics of me before and after T.

Also I'm doubling my dose soon!

>>6795507
5'3 110lbs
Skype is shlooppp
Just let me know where you're from
>>6795561
Trying to remember the name of the place..

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>>6795842
>Were/are you on a low/med/high dose?
I'm on a low-ish dose since my T was high

>How fast did changes (in general) start happening?
See pic related. Downstairs growth happened in the first month though

>When did you first notice any voice changes?
Got raspy around month 2 and dropped gradually like all the men in my family

>How long for fat redistribution to start?
See pic

>And lastly, a lot of guys say their skin got oilier and they had more acne but in my case I'm getting less of that now. Anyone else had that happen or at least know why?
I used to have really bad cystic acne (thanks hypothyroidism) but now I only have very minor acne where my facial hair is growing. I'm also actually taking pride in my appearance now and putting effort into hygiene. Personally I also think my higher T levels were making it an issue with an estrogen driven system and now that it's testosterone driven everything is more in balance...

>>6795942
>>6795842
same person on the response, I haven't had too bad of acne? about as bad as when I went through puberty the first time. I have had a lot of acne on my breasts though which is really annoying. Even got a sebaceous cyst on the underside of one breast. may be from binding tho idk

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>>6795842

Been on T for 1 year.

Fat redistribution for me seems either nonexistent, or very small. My shoulders and chest are bigger but only after i started seriously working them out.

My acne is terrible. Face is oily. Most of my facial acne is ingrown hairs, but they can get pretty gross and embarrassing. Most of my acne is on my back and shoulders. It's really bad. The binder in the shitty michigan humid heat makes it worse. I'm so far from getting top surgery, but i yearn for it so goddamn badly. Im thinking of buying that one acne prescription cream, even though it's $125 because its not covered.

>>6796397
hey have you had problems with cysts and such on your breasts from binding in the humidity? I live in minnesota without central air and it's been awful lately. ended up with a sebaceous cyst

Confused girl(?) needing help here.
>feel like I would be happier if I were a boy. Don't feel trans, just want to have been born a dude
>first sex dream was from male perspective
>imagine self in male role in sex fantasies
>always felt more comfortable playing male characters in make-believe as a kid, d&d when older
>wants a dick, fetish for dick growth
>uncomfortable with intimacy in past relationships
but at the same time
>not repulsed by own vagina or boobs
>enjoy cute clothing/dressing up
this has been going on for awhile (realized about three years ago), part of me wants to put off dealing with it until technology gets a bit more advanced (i want a real dick with real balls god damnit) and the idea of taking the leap and transitioning is terrifying (what if I'm wrong?), are these common trans feelings or am I just a confused grill?

>>6796529
No, but my chest is pretty small. The biggest pimples i get are on my back and shoulders. Don't know if they were considered cysts. I wash a lot so usually i can keep them down to just tiny red bumps. Feels gross though. So far it's the worst part of transitioning for me.

>>6795842
>Were/are you on a low/med/high dose?
Low dose for 2 years, upped to medium last month 'cause not satisfying changes
>How fast did changes (in general) start happening?
Changes started almost right away, but then it felt like it stopped happening...
>When did you first notice any voice changes?
Like I said almost right away. Feels like voice is the only thing my body got right after getting some T
>How long for fat redistribution to start?
I didn't notice much fat redistribution, maybe because I don't have much fat, but my waist got wider really quick. I exercised a bit too and got wider shoulders. When I compare old pics with recent ones it seems like my face lost a little bit of babyfat but it still has too much lol

>>6794265

Pls teach me dudmode makeup

>>6798006
Not him but I don't recommend make-up, girls can say you got one on your face right away, not to mention it's visible to everybody if you overdo it and do stuff like putting shadows on your cheeks to pretend you got strong cheekbones

Unless it's just for pics

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>>>/an/2194261
>>>/an/2195781

>>6798315
Cat Strapon 2016

>tfw you're the one guy who would go to a metal concert in a button down

I don't like tees so solid button-downs and turtlenecks are the most 'casual' I go.

>>6796855
>Don't feel trans, just want to have been born a dude
I'm curious what you think being trans feels like, because that's a self-contradictory sentence.

>not repulsed by own vagina or boobs
You *do not* feel repulsed, but how *do* you feel about these parts of your body and your body in general?
>uncomfortable with intimacy in past relationships
Is this connected to above?

How do you feel about the idea of going on testosterone? What changes would you want? What changes would you rather avoid? Why?

>enjoy cute clothing/dressing up
This is almost irrelevant imo. If it gives my opinion more validity, I hate cute clothing and girly shit, but I think almost all humans like seeing themselves looking fancy or achieving an aesthetic in some way. Imo fronting all manly all the time is why so many cis guys are so fucking mad about everything.

The first batch of greentext is pretty standard trans male fare.

>>6792711
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>>6795465
>>6795581
Thank you for your answers, guys. It seems men are treated hm... more frankly by people? Be it in a positive or negative/violent way?

>>6796855
>feel like I would be happier if I were a boy. Don't feel trans, just want to have been born a dude
You're not alone in that. I don't feel dysphoric either, just that, well, as a woman :
>PMS is a pain
>Physical strength is a joke
>Baby-carrying is useless if you hate babies
>Boobs & stairs.
>Expected to shave your legs if you wear anything shorter than full pants.
>Getting talked over is annoying (sure that happens with guys too, but I'm pretty sure my squeaky voice has some part in it).
Objectively, if you're not attached to a specific anatomy setup, being a dude sounds a better deal.

Off I go. Sorry.

>>6796855
I see a lot of myself back when I was in denial here. Not sure what you mean by "feeling trans", I don't think a lot of people actually feel trans. I don't, I just feel like a guy, for example. And to be entirely honest with you, I despise the trans label (when used for me, I don't care if other people identify themselves as trans).

>uncomfortable with intimacy in past relationships
>not repulsed by own vagina or boobs
I used to think that too but I later realized I was very repulsed by it and just somehow repressed those feelings. I ignored them and tricked myself into thinking I had no discomfort even though I obviously did. Intimacy in relationships was a no-go for me and I feared (and was disgusted by) the idea of some guy sticking his dick in me (which I guess could happen too if you've been raped or something but I haven't, I have no reason to be disgusted by/fear that).

>enjoy cute clothing/dressing up
Personally I enjoy cute clothing and dressing up too. Used to do it more often before I came out, now I just do it in my own private time and don't leave my room with it. I honestly doubt this would mean you're not trans since there are cis people who just like crossdressing and that doesn't mean that suddenly they (in the case of a man) feel like a woman, want to be one and are suddenly a trans woman. I guess some people would argue with me on this opinion though since there's a lot of transtrenders who claim to be ftm and then wear dresses and makeup and shit. That's bullshit though, you can tell they have no dysphoria or anything whatsoever.
Now if you asked me why I like to wear cute clothing sometimes, I don't think I'd really be able to answer you. I don't feel like a girl, I don't want to be one, I just like putting it on. More than I like dressing up myself, I like dressing up pretty girls though.

>>6796855

Seconding pretty much all of this and piggybacking.
I don't have a dick growth fetish, but I can't imagine my female body being involved in sex. I'm mad into girls, but functionally asexual cause of this.
I'm not repulsed by my v's existence but I pretty much ignore it and never want it interfered with in any way. Outside of that, I don't really notice it. And as much as I wish I had a dick for sex, I don't exactly feel its absence if I'm just chilling, other than a weird platonic shot of yearning if I see a guy casually touch his chest/crotch.

Before puberty, I was briefly convinced I had internal testes after seeing and vaguely comprehending an intersex story on TV. But at the same time, I was a dumb kid, I also thought that getting horny made me masc because "only boys get horny, right?" I was still playing with dolls and dressing up like Pocahontas and shit.
Early 20s, I kinda made an effort to 'grow up'. Got /fit/ and /fa/ and shit and honestly just kinda forgot about it at all for a few years. Lifting made me happy as FUCK, and I got comfortable dressing my body up femmy, so like, just self esteem issues? Still hung up about sex/touching though.
Mid 20s now, just feels a bit late to be thinking about this again after 'time off'.

I wouldn't say I've been particularly distressed by my sex past the puberty horror show. Maybe 'uncomfortable'? I thought I'd get over it by coming out as a dyke, then I thought I'd get over it with general female appreciation. But now I've done that, and it's not that I want to be straight or look down on women. But maybe trans is just the next refutation in line and the 'problem' is just life/me.
It's not like pain, it simply is. It's not something I can see killing myself over, and I've done puberty already, like what more can my body possibly do to me?

In any case, I've started lifting again, maybe if I stick with it and accept sexual dysfunction it'll be fine. It's not like I can ever grow a real dick anyway.

>>6798736
This is literally me. Though I think the only reason why I'm not as repulsed by my boobs as other guys is because mine are so small that I don't suffocate or discomfort myself to bind. I just put on a binder which feels like a fitted shirt and forget I have boobs most of the time, especially cause I view myself so distinctly as a guy. Like before T, I thought I had a naturally deep voice and lol no not even close.
I've never considered my vagina as some source of baby-making, but as a source of pleasure. I've been masturbating since before I knew it to be a sexual activity. However, I still would never want a dick there and I have no trauma to validate that sentiment either.

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>>6798569
I used to wear mostly button-ups but nowadays I hate them. I only wear one when I'm in need of looking less casual.
It's much harder to look good in it for me than in a well-fitted t-shirt (I like the ones with button neck the most) though a good tie makes button-ups look better but again - it only works for weddings etc.
Favourite kind of clothing is def pic related though. I look pretty manly in these + I have them in solid color so with chinos, simple leather shoes and leather belt they're good for something like a date but at the same time I don't look like a try-hard

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>>6798831
Found a better example, one of mine's looks exactly like that, recommended. Goes well with jeans or even shorts too t b h

Have any of you guys applied for a name and gender change in Michigan? I tried looking it up and one site says "an applicant must submit a petition to the court" and okay I am already lost. Do I just google "courthouse near me", drive there, walk in and find someone who looks employed there, and tell them I wanna change my name? Also how do I keep the matter private and unpublished?
My doctor has asked me if I'll get surgery and financially no plans are set but would that impact changing my gender marker too? I have gotten weird looks when someone checks my license (I get carded often) despite in my photo I've always presented as boy but now I definitely look like a cis dude who has no place having "f' and "female name" on his license.

>>6798720
For positives there's a longer life, and estrogen seems to aid empathy a lot which is not to be underestimated.

>Getting talked over is annoying (sure that happens with guys too, but I'm pretty sure my squeaky voice has some part in it).
I hated this so much and I'd regularly get into spats over it. I always make an effort in groups to help pass the word over to the chronically interrupted.

>>6794033
>but like I suspected being "male" can make a woman more vulnerable to violence and aggression
No shit Sherlock, because men by default are more at risk for violent crimes.
>>6795136
Doesn't this depend on the type of trans though? FtM who don't pass are just seen as butch women. And as we already know, women as a "minority group" are more protected.

>>6795842
Started on a high dose, now on a medium dose.
I began noticing changes in the first month, mainly the voice and more body/facial hair.
Voice probably started getting a croaky feeling in about a week, more or less, and just gradually got lower and lower over the months.
Fat redistribution and body shape changes were noticeable around 5 months I think.

It was a bit hard trying to remember all this shit. I really should have kept some kind of transition record other than dated recordings of my voice which I only go back to do when I forget how long I've been on T.

hi im looking for a bf

>>6799285
Go to the bf store

>>6795842
I'm on starting dose of 100mg/weekly.

Dick growth a few days in.
First voice changes 2 weeks in (this is very early) but still changing.
Acne and facial hair 2 months in. I had a light moustache pre-T and it's a bit darker plus I have some beard hairs.
No fat redistribution as of 3 months.

>>6798977
I haven't in Michigan but I'm familiar with the overall process. Looks like you can go here:
>http://michiganlegalhelp.org/self-help-tools/individual-rights/i-want-change-my-name
And use the DIY form. For reason you can put "common use" or "personal" and ask to have the publication waived for personal safety reasons. They tell you where and how to submit it. Usually name changes are handled by probate court.

After you get the legal name change you MUST change/update Social Security which involves bringing the legal name change to your Social Security office.

For gender change it looks like you need your birth certificate changed, which a letter/affidavit from your doctor will get you, see:
>http://www.transequality.org/documents/state/michigan

>>6799438
>100mg/week
That is a very high dose. What's your delivery method?

>>6799285
>>6799331

Boys'R'Us has a steady supply of boys

Straight cis male with a massive cock here.

Just lurking and listening. Hoping to use what I'm learning here to absolutely destroy the warm tight holes of some innocent reversetraps and leave them exhausted smiling dripping from orgasm and cum filled. Bonus points if they have major bottom dysphoria.

>>6798977
Where are you in michigan?

Last time i was looking into it, i found a .pdf form you're supposed to fill out, make a copy of, and mail that copy to the nearest courthouse. The other copy has to be mailed with a set of your fingerprints to the FBI. I never mailed it but it sounds like a pain in the ass. And i hope the part about publishing it in a newspaper isn't required.

>>6799476
Subq. I inject 1 mL of 200mg/ml every other week.

>>6799534
gay

>>6799534
>straight cis male
What are you doing here? Are you a fag so closeted you're still in denial even on /lgbt/ board?

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>>6799624

>Are you a fag so closeted you're still in denial even on /lgbt/ board?

>>6799438
Damn, how is that a starting dose? I'm on 125mg once every 3 weeks.

>>6799656
What ester + which ROA?

Had to go to the doctor yesterday for a sinus infection and ended up walking out with a prescription for klonopin and a referral to a psychiatrist.. Shit man I didn't realize my anxiety was bad enough to need to go through that process again. It's kinda stupid that I feel disappointed in myself that I haven't exactly gotten "better" and freaked out I might have to do this the rest of my life :/

Not to mention I lost my ref letter from because of moving and have to deal with that shit again.. I'm pretty done with this week tbhh

New mega-survey here:
https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/YGTXSVZ

>>6799701
Not sure what you mean but it's a half thingy of sustanon (so 0.5ml) if that helps.

Is 'Jace' a snowflake name? I'm always anxious about the stereotype of trans dudes picking 'snowflake-y' names.

>>6799835

What's wrong with something like Johnathan, man. Seriously. Jace is an uncommon name and I've personally never met a Jace in my entire life. It's the kind of name I'd expect on a shitty 90s teen soap opera.

Why do you think it's a good name? What's wrong with David or Eric or James or Michael or something else traditional and reliably masculine.

>>6799835
Cringe

>>6799594
Nah

>>6799624
I'm actually comfortable enough in my own sexuality to visit a "fag" board.
What about you?
Are you comfortable enough in your own sexuality to let a straight guy pound your holes till you have multiple creamy orgasms?

Or are you is your masculinity so fragile that it's threatened by a cis het man with a large meaty dick fucking you like a whore?

>>6799835

Also to answer your question, I guess if I met an FtM who called himself Jace I'd probably think he browses Tumblr and is a transtrender, so I guess to answer your question: yes.

Keep names simple, masculine and to the point. Shitty names like Jace or Kaiden or some shit just flags you up and brings undue attention, particularly to your gender if you're mid-transition.

Think on it like this: what names do your grandparents commonly know.

>>6799865
>>6799868
>>6799876
Got it. I had a more normal name picked out (Caleb, what my parents were gonna name me if I were born a dude) but then I met a dude who ruined the name for me. Trying to figure out an alternative.

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>>6799915

>>6799938
Never watched W.I.T.C.H. Is that character really such a big deal? Another name I really like is Jacob (which was huge the year I was born), but it's my brother's middle name.

>MTFs are stereotypically either programmers or prostitutes
Is there an archetypal FTM profession?

Yo I'm dysphoric af right now because I'm on my period i guess??? anyone got any advice? I also have big breasts so that doesn't help at all eugh,,

>>6799869

As a straightish guy im far more attracted to mtfs with a benis then ftms, I wonder who's gayer?

>>6800056

Why don't women especially non transtioned ftms just use birth control and call it a day?

>>6800059
Gay-er then what?
Well, you have fun figuring out where you fit on that straight gay scale that people love to post so much.

I'll just sit here with a semi learning about reverse traps.

>>6800064
Not the person you're talking to but birth control is not for everyone. I tried it a while back and it was the most horrible experience I've ever had. I was crying practically all day (for literally no reason at all) even if I tried my hardest not to and felt pretty suicidal most of the time. A lot of people can't use birth control due to health risks too because they do give you a higher chance for blood clots and what not so if you've had problems or are at risk then you really shouldn't try it. I also know people whose period/cramps/PMS/whatever got worse from it and apparently it made one other person I know feel really nauseous all the time. There's just a shitton of possible side effects that not everyone wants to or can deal with.

>>6800064

So birth control gets rid of periods? Sorry I don't understand your comment, ngl im a retard.

>>6800064
Because taking ladypills gives dysphoria too, and a daily reminder at that

>>6800081
If you take it non-stop it can

>>6799983
construction or truck driving or something, probably

though there's a lot in tech fields too i think

>>6800080

Oh damn? really? I'm already suicidal so i guest birth control is out of the question.

>>6800084
And yeah that makes sense too. I don't need even more dysphoria than I already have.

>>6800090
Well, I do know trans guys who have good experiences with it, I guess it just depends on the person.

>>6800103
yeah true. but do I really want to risk the huge chance of having really bad suicidal thoughts and possibly acting on them? Not really. up to more ideas though!!

>>6800090
Drugs are not the answer. Find a meaning to your life and while struggling to achieve your goals you will find happiness.

>>6800113
How old are you? Do you have a loving familly or friends? Do you have any hope for the future?

>>6798006
Sorry it wasn't dude mode makeup, I only look feminine with makeup on. I mean, I do look like a girl, but with enough posturing and masculine presentation i get gendered correctly sometimes.

If you're interested though, spectredeflector on tumblr does dude makeup tutorials, I don't know his YouTube channel name though.

>>6800115
I'm underage, I will say that (i'm not like a fucking 12 year old though.) My family is kind've supportive of me? but not really. I have a boyfriend who loves me a lot. As for hope for the future? not much. Just a feeling i'm going to be homeless and alone, really.

>>6800126
Why would you be homeless if your parents care about you? So you are like 16.

You need to understand that it is extremely hard for a parent to support such a drastic change. Taking hormones makes you infertile and makes you grow breasts.

>>6800139
>Taking hormones makes you grow breasts
Not that person but what?

>>6800139
lol i think you're concern trolling in the wrong thread dude

>>6800152
yeah that doesnt make sense to me either??? Testosterone is a masculine hormone right? shouldnt it decrease the chance of breast growth and increase muscle and hair growth? correct me if im wrong.

>>6800161
I am not trolling.

>>6800152
WOOPS i missread the thread. Sup guys.
I am really sorry

>>6800169
>not trolling
>talking about hormones will make you grow breasts in an ftm thread
yeah okay buddy

>>6799983
I do programming and art, a lot of other ftms seem to do art so I guess it'd be an ftm stereotype to do art.

>>6800176
Its okay!! We all make mistakes when reading you know?

>>6800169
>A person who posts on a blog thread, in the guise of "concern," to disrupt dialogue or undermine morale by pointing out that posters and/or the site may be getting themselves in trouble, usually with an authority or power. They point out problems that don't really exist. The intent is to derail, stifle, control, the dialogue. It is viewed as insincere and condescending.

>>6800073

I was wondering who is gayer, guy who likes ftms with vag vs guy who likes mtf with penis.

>>6800090

FTM dysphoria is worse than I thought. Even taking pills triggers dysphoria? Shieeeeet

>>6799835

Jace? Is that an European name? 'Never heard of it.

>>6800273

Some guys get dysphoric easily. Personally, I don't feel dysphoria towards my reproductive system. I've even thought about pregnancy but I can't do natural birth; I'm too wimpy for pain.

>>6799983
Gender studies or lit majors, XL hoodies and substance abuse

My diet went to crap in under 3 days. What joy.

>>6800064

>women
>especially ftm

Your wording probably annoys anons here.

>>6799976

In the cartoons he is.

>>6800139
This is ftmg not mtfg. Testosterone doesn't make you infertile and it actually reduces breast tissue

>tfw you could have transitioned as early as age 14 if you hadn't been a wuss and stayed in the closet

Haha... Hah...


>>6800321

Does estrogen make trans women infertile?

That reminds me, I don't watch I Am Jazz but I saw some tv guide summaries for it and wtf is surgery to stop puberty? I thought trans teens omly needed hormone blockers.

>>6800337
tfw you came out at 11 and are just now (supposed to be) getting on T

>>6800337
Yeah, I'm pretty sure puberty blockers are the only things that stop/delay puberty.

And estrogen doesn't make trans women infertile, it's the anti-androgens like spiro or cypro. Not all of them do make you infertile though.