/ftmg/ - female to male general

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>>6802574

Accepted for men, sure, but it might make your problem worse as expanded ears stay expanded after you remove the stud. It's like covering a shit tattoo with another. Doesn't really remove the problem, just covering it. Also it is very dependent on fashion, becoming cringe worthy after a while (if you are ready to carry it for life then it doesn't matter but people change and all that).

Isn't it possible to have a small cosmetic repair where they close the original hole or make it less visible?

This is going to sound dumb, but how the hell do you make friends as an adult?
I just moved into a tiny 1 bedroom apartment a new city where I know no one, and I realized that literally every friend I've made up until now was someone I met at school or university. None of my new coworkers are going to be good friends, I can tell that much now.
Being trans and gay really doesn't help.

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>>6802715
Oh sorry, didn't realize you wrote plugs not expanding stuff. Guess that works too, but I would still look into ear repair stuff in case it isn't expensive. It will look better than having anything in your ears, cause it gives a bit of a tumblr wibe, at least to me. Depends on your style and taste I suppose.

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>>6802734
My tip, since your workplace is a no-go... join hobby/interest clubs or start some sport like climbing/martial art/whatever. You will meet people there, and if they seem interesting you can ask them to do something else, like movie night, hiking, gaming, whatever you're interested in.
The trick is to get into a situation where you meet new people and socialize.
Is there a way to meet people through people you already know? People are a lot more likely to approve of people their friends approve of.

>>6802742

Nah, like I don't like the holes but if i can't see them there's no problem, I've already tried putting an earring through it and it doesn't look bigger, so I doubt that wearing them will make it worse, I don't think the problem is that extreme to have surgery idk, as for the tumblr thing that's why I was asking, so many lesbians and trans kids that look like girls wear them that I'm not sure if they're masculine enough, but I don't think I have really strong social dysphoria so I don't mind if people think I'm a lesbian or something (grew up telling myself to not let people define me, it's settled in my mind now I guess) Thanks anyway.

Can you do the thing?

>>6803101
is this a benis joke

>>6803111
I dont know, is it?
>>6803113
reported and hidden

>>6803120
If it is who was phone

>>6803133
dog

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>>6803178
snek

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>>6803201
SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE

>>6803226
BADGER BADGER BADGER BADGER

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>>6803239
seel

slang word for tiny penis X2

i clicked on the thread to read the op comic but holy shit you guys are a lot nicer than lesgen lmao

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i'm growing an adam's apple
my neck is a lot different
little things sneak up on me with testosterone
how about you ftmg?

>>6802783
I've had stretched ears for a couple years and in my experience it doesn't detract from passing at all as long as you keep the jewellery plain and non-dangly. I know of ear repair surgeries for stretched ears but I'm not aware of any for normal earring sizes.

As for choosing jewellery try looking around at other men your age, the ones that wear the kind of fashion you do/aspire to and see what they wear in their ears if anything. It may well depend on your locality but my instincts say plain, non-flashy studs are your best bet.

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>>6803523
You look comfy. Are you comfy?

I'm curing plums in port wine as part of a duck recipe I'm trying out. Am also smoking my pipe and being comfy. Life is good.

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>>6803574

>>6801983
I'm on a half dose for now, it's supposed to go up later but yeah, a lot of people complain that their levels drop too much in the last week before their injection. I feel like the doses here are just stupidly low and they don't do shit about it.

Yeah, you don't even have the opportunity of getting subcut here but luckily the nurse I go to knows how to do IM. I had to be rushed to hospital for something else a few times where they certainly did not know how to do IM, hurt like hell, and now a part of my butt is permanently slightly numb and hurts a bit when I apply pressure.

Pretty sure IM absorption is different from subcut but I know even less about this shit than you so I could very well be completely wrong. But since it's injected into fat vs muscle it sounds pretty logical that IM would be faster than subcut.

>>6803523
you look ripped and strong aiden!

peace my bro,
brad

people are literally animals, you people live in a delusional fake reality.
It's prerfectly ok to dress and act however you want butjust know only scientifically minded people are really human.
If you have a narrative based beliefsystem you are a primititve savage no matter how passive you are.
You literally just make up stories about yourself and pretend they're real for attention and self esteem.
You realise we evolved from cavemen and apes right? Life is pointless and everyone dies.
It's completely ok to say you're an attack helicopter, due to free speech, but if you actually believe it you're nuts.

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>>6803767
Here's your (reee)

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>>6803831

reeeEE

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>>6803842
Shush

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>>6803856

Come here and shush me, faget

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>>6803862
U da faget

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>>6803869

Action behind the words or you're a pussy on top of being a faggot

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>>6803887
I like pussy

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>>6803906

You are what you eat

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>>6803909
Damn strait

>trans artists
>draws themselves as a 5'9 perfectly passing hunk

I want more cute 5'3 nerds.

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>>6803924
H-hi

>>6803924
I'm 5'1 if that's good enough

Femgen is only for femboys so I can't ask them but... Anyone here have experiences with crossdressing in public?

Technically I'm nonbinary so it isn't really crossdressing but I want to present as male, not nonbinary or female. Tbqh if I go on T, I'd probably turn into a fuzzy big guy with a beard. Like a bear but not tall. But I want to wear cute clothes still. And it just so happens 90% of cute clothes are female geared. I however am terrified of going out in drag in boymode and people judging me or worse.

>>6803939
I have a fetish for bears in drag. Pls post pics.

>>6803939
I used to, but when I do it I pass 100% as a girl so can't give you tips on that. I know a few guys who don't pass entirely (but pretty close in my opinion) but they hang around weebs and shit when they do it and they don't really judge. Apparently one of them got asked at a train station for a picture but that's pretty much it.

>>6803924
I always draw myself as a tiny noodle person. I'm not harboring any delusions here.

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>>6803939

>Technically I'm nonbinary so it isn't really crossdressing but I want to present as male

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Why Is ftm so gay?

>>6804008

Sexy men

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>>6803924
I dunno if I draw myself that manly

I don't want to troll, but I'd like to ask how many people here have had PCOS before transition, and if you think that having PCOS is related to being FtM.

I'm just projecting, but I know a few girls with PCOS, and know a few FtMs, but I find strange that 90% of the FtMs I know have had PCOS.

>>6804048
>>6803924
> tfw 6'3"
> tfw mtf

When will body change become available?

>>6804218
I had it. My parents made me go on birth control + Spiro because they thought maybe the high testosterone was making me feel masculine. Fucking idiots.

>>6804218
Don't remember where I read it but there were a few articles that said the rate of PCOS in trans guys is much higher than in cis women, they think it has to do with the amount of androgens in the womb during development fucking things up or something.

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>>6804218
I think maybe having PCOS helps some transguys go through with transitioning because they already have male features on their body. It seems more attainable somehow? If you're born with insane birthing hips and doubleDs the idea of becoming the man you feel you are might seem insane, but If you already have male fat distribution and a semi-beard? Idk. Personally I think a lot of people stay in the closet suffering or kill themselves without ever saying they are trans because of the stigma surrounding it, so there is a lot of transpeople unaccounted for in statistics. PCOS might just give them a push to go through with it thereby bumping the stat numbers, because I know all the girls I know with PCOS are suffering deeply but If I had been born with the same I think I would love it and would have transitioned earlier.

>>6804048
Are you the scary redhaired guy?

I know this is a gross question, but how do I clean smegma? The angle is really difficult, I'm so sensitive that being touched directly hurts, and shit get embedded in the hood and I can't get it out.

>>6804218
Not sure about the poly part but I had a cyst on my ovary that was so bad I became overwhelmed with relief when doctors said they might have to remove the ovary and I begged them to take out everything. They didn't, especially cause my mom wouldn't allow it. I wanted so bad to tell them I was a guy and to help me, that this was THE chance I needed to correct my body.

As for pcos, I wonder now if my girlfriend identifies as genderfluid because she has masculinization effects, though I don't really know if she has pcos.

>>6804457
Soak yourself in a bathtub and jack off.

>>6804457

Warm water and time, senpai

>>6804218
I suspect I had it, but was never tested.

>>6803523
More gym and less food, senpai

>>6804225

Tall women are cool. No one respects short guys,

>>6804855
Don't fall for the manlet meme. Men need to prove themselves to become something, and it's easy to blaim for physical deficiencies when they don't make it.

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>>6803226

>>6804447
I'm not scary ;-; guess my hair is kinda ginger-ish though but I think it's more blonde than red. Not sure if you're thinking of the right guy.

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In case Hipsterdaddy is still around, your tip with lingonberries worked a charm. I got my hands on some and made a mild brew on it (lower alcohol% than beer) as a tester, and it was great. Has to use loads of grapes as a fermentation backup but the taste was really balanced, tart and complex. Drank it all though, so pissed off my head at the moment. Cheers m8.

>>6804855
Tall women don't pass. Even if they are cis.

>>6804925
^this. Why do men need to prove themselves constantly? You are who you are.

>>6805338
You the cheeky fucker?

>>6805472
did someone summon me?

>>6805469
Not the person you were talking to but it doesn't always have to be that way. It's just society that forces guys to prove themselves (which obviously does mean most men do feel that pressure but it's not everyone). When I'm just one on one with some of my friends, they feel no need whatsoever to prove themselves and just act however they want, whether it's socially accepted as "manly" or not. Heck, I have friends who actually admit that they cry because they don't feel good or cry when watching sad shows.

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>>6805489
Kek. Nah pupper. I was talking about pic related. But hello to you too.

I love you guys!! Even though you're not the same people from a while a go. Some of you ate and it is still the comfiest. Fuck irl support ftmg for life

Side note who else day drinking sides >>6805455 possumbro an me?

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>>6805558
>I love you guys!!
>dead silence
Here's one from me bro. Cheers.

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>tfw no qt ftm bf

>tfw closeted biscum
How do you find a pre-op FtM?
It would be a transition for me, too, if my girlfriend became a boyfriend. But atleast there are no intimidating dicks involved except mine.

>>6805558
Me~ I'm an alcoholic though so I don't think I count

>>6805472
Yea I'm the cheeky fucker
I'm not redhaired, am I
(actually one friend constantly makes fun of me saying I'm a ginger, also because some of my body/facial hair looks kinda red)

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I don't know if any of you remember or care. But I've been depressed about my dog i had to give away. The lady i gave her to got rid of her the day after. And i never found out what happened to my dog Kiwi. The lady said i lied to her but i didnt. She said she would find her a good home. But somehow i doubt she cared.

I risked being a creep by stopping by her house on tuesday. I knocked but she didn't answer so i left a note under her doormat that was impossible to miss. Haven't heard anything so I'm guessing she got angry or creeped out and i won't hear anything about my dog. It's out of my hands but it kills me. I'm sorry i gave you to a crappy owner, Kiwi. I almost think i should get therapy for this because it brings me to tears. I rehomed her 2 YEARS AGO.

>>6804218
I Suspected i had PCOS, but the results came back negative. But I used to only get my period every three months, so there was definitely some hormone problem going on

>>6806355
at least she had time with you, a lot of animals starve on the streets, get hit by cars, etc.

animals owned by caring people have an insanely good quality of life in general compared to how they would fair on their own. and you did all you can do, that's all that can really be asked.

>>6804218

Pre-everything pussy and I've never had it, kind of agree with >>6804279
I wouldn't want it, but if I did have it then I think going all the way would be relatively easier, vs doing something so drastic when my life outside of this is relatively comfortable, creating a greater sense of risk. If that makes sense.

>>6806355
I'd keep pressing the issue until she gives in. A dog is a lifelong friend. What did she even say you lied about...? What a cunt.

>>6806355
I'm glad that you followed it up, man. I'm really sorry it didn't lead anywhere. But you tried for Kiwi's sake. That matters.

The following is kind of fucked up but I want it off my chest too. A guy I know was basically the lady in your scenario. He got a scaredy dog from an owner who couldn't keep her, and the dog ran away within a month. This fucking guy took weeks before he bothered to put up missing posters for her (I don't think he actually even did it, tbqh, when I offered to help he had suddenly done all of it) and when the previous owner was asking about her he lied to them and played it off to me and other coworkers like it was a hilarious joke that the owner even cared what became of their fucking friend.

I can't even look that guy in the eye anymore, I just find him so disgusting.

Dogs are friends and innocents, and it's normal to feel badly when someone treats your friend like garbage. I'm mad on your behalf and also sorry.

>>6806382
Thanks. You aren't wrong. I miss her being here.

>>6806457
I'm afraid she might freak out at me or call the cops or something. She lives alone and just seems like a weird girl.

She didn't tell me at first, but i caught her craigslist ad about Kiwi. She said Kiwi bit her daughter and had fleas. She had no fleas, i promise that. I told her Kiwi was always good with kids coming up to her, but never lived with any. I'm guessing she lied because she wasn't ready for a dog. Because i told her if there were issues to contact me FIRST. if Kiwi did bite, i assume her daughter may have tugged her ears or something kids do, but I'm 99% sure she just wanted her gone.

I want to try talking to her again but im so socially nervous normally, and don't want her to flip out. Plus im afraid i might yell at her.

>>6806488
That guy sounds like a jackass. I hope the dog found a home. And thanks. I hate being a downer but my friends irl aren't good people to talk to when I'm upset. Ive been writing songs/poems to help myself a little.

>>6805558
I'm changing it up with night smoking.

>/ftcomfy/

>>6806557

I don't know how Craigslist works but is there no way to find out through the site who she sold the dog to? Surely they'd have a paper trail. But you probably can't access it unless you're the buyer/seller.

It's really weird that she won't just tell you who she gave it to.

>>6807037
It is weird.

I don't think they would tell me because of a violation of privacy.

>>6807156
She doesn't have any reason to call the police on you. And even if she did, most of the ones I've met would be sympathetic about you trying to find your dog.

Dude, this is the sickest shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxM_6wQGmSk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx9XBGHce_U

Second link is almost wanky slow mo but it's shot so beautifully i can't give a fuck

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>booty

DAE feel like they have to be bi or only pursue other bi people because expecting a straight woman or gay man to be sexually interested in me feels hypocritical

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>>6808550
>Benis

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>>6808672
no, booty desu

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>>6808690
k

Guys, I told my therapist that I tried to kill myself. Will it prevent me getting hrt? I know some people get put on hold if they're emotionally unstable. Anyone have experience with it? How badly did I fuck up?

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>tfw your period ends

I'm happy mine only last 3 days usually

>>6809311
tfw yours lasts 7-8 days

>>6809320

Beat it up

I had the most screwy nightmare tonight. Like most of the world flooded so humans were an endangered species. The birds overtook everything. They were talking and they didn't care for humans. But I pulled a sob story and made some of them cry.

...Uh huh. That would make a decent book but it was a horrid nightmare. It was more of an existential one than a straight up horror one. I thought my family was dead (they turned up right before I woke up) and my life was forever ruined due to the flood. We had to survive on stealing from a grocery store. It was frightening. It started out as a normal nightmare of me writing a story in school then switched to birds ruling the world.

Is there a way to make yourself have pleasant dreams? Most of the dreams I remember are nightmares of some sort.

>>6805469

Some tall women look masculine but that's okay. Nothing wrong with that.

>>6804218

Yes. No.

>>6809311

2 days heavy, 1-3 days of "wear a pad just so my underwear doesn't stain but barely notice it" master race.

Maybe kinda evened out by the fact that those two days feel like my internal organs are drowning in phantom diarrhoea. And the fact that before and during my period I'm an anxious mess, and I always forget it's coming so I'm every time it's on it's way I'm just in fucking existential crisis mode of "everything sucks, hate life, want to die, noodle legs, sissy shit, broken spine, wheelchair future- oh wait, nevermind, everything hasn't rapidly fallen apart for no reason, it's just that thing that happens every single month."

>>6809273
didn't prevent the other 49% of trans people who've attempted suicide from getting it

>>6809359
>birds ruling the world.
If you're from the UK, it's probably subconscious paranoia about dem feminazis, nyuk nyuk.

>Most of the dreams I remember are nightmares of some sort.
Same here, I fucking hate it. Don't try lucid dreaming, that's all I can say.

>>6809359
I heard that sleeping in a cold place makes you have bad dreams but I think it's bullshit. Not sure how else to have pleasant dreams. I personally don't really want pleasant ones - I'm perfectly fine with all the fucked up shit that happens in mine. I never remember pleasant dreams either, there's always gore and death in them and I'm often in some kind of dangerous or scary situation. Other than the scary situations I like it though, dreams without that would be boring.

>>6809311
I haven't had a period for three years. Still pre-T so no idea why.

>>6809412

I know you shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth, but you should probably see a doctor, famalam. That can be a symptom of some shit.

>>6809429
Probably should, but that's a dysphoria roller coaster right there. I'd rather spend my time pretending downstairs don't exist.

>>6809412

I was similar. It was PCOS.

>>6809456
If it's PCOS shouldn't I be entitled to a beard, or at least some fuzz? Dammit, I want a refund.

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How does HRT make you feel versus pre-mones?

>>6809527
Calmer, definitely calmer. Because I know that eventually T will work its magic and I won't be read as neutral/female anymore and people won't ask me or demand to touch my chest to find out. And the voice drop will mean I don't have to be so careful about talking either.

>>6809547
>and people won't ask me or demand to touch my chest to find out.
wtf, stop hanging out with degenerates

>>6809569
I don't even hang out with them so often because I'm such a recluse but yeah when you're among a bunch of drunk weebs at night, there's a chance weird shit will happen. I don't mind people asking me what I am so much but demanding to touch me is just weird.

>>6809527
A bit less in touch with my own emotions, like I have to expend energy to understand why I feel a certain way about difficult topics whereas before I could just follow the trail as easy as riding a bike down a slope. It's not uphill now, but I have to tread.
That said I've teared up at cute animal videos (not even the heart rending stuff, just dogs being goofy and sweet) which is not a thing I experienced before.
I'm more socially confident and less anxious though I'm still anxious. I laugh a lot more. I have more energy to spend with/on other people. I love all living beings more than I did. Everything seems brighter and more alive. It's subtle but it touches everything, so sum it's huge.
I feel like pre-t i was hunkered down in survival mode and that I'm just now seeing the world from my actual baseline.

>>6809577
It's not just weird, it's crossing a line that's extremely telling of someone's social sensibilities.

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Any natural ways to increase testosterone levels? I've heard eating testies help.

>>6810655
this is mtf shit but i remember there being an infograph with good food to eat for a more feminine body with foods to avoid, if you can find that maybe just swap it around

i imagine you can probably find similar info for ftms with google

>>6810655
>>6810678
No, that's a myth. Sadly.

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>>6810678
Yeah, but most of that stuff is meant to lower testosterone in biomales. It probably won't work on biofemales. Like eating meat/eggs increases testosterone in men, but it doesn't do the same with women. If anything, eating iron rich foods helps estrogen production.
From what I get eating low-carb helps maintain muscle while burning off more fat, which helps to look more androgynous but not necessarily more male.

>>6810727
Ah fuck. Really? How about lowering estrogen? Any way to do that?

>>6804279

PCOS doesn't work like that. I have it but I'm still shapely and I probably have D cups. It gave me high levels of natural testosterone but that only made me hairy.

>>6809311
fuck you mine fucking started yesterday and its worse than usual pain-wise. why can't I just be a normal man.

How do I flirt with a cute trans guy? Is it rude or patronizing to compliment masculine characteristics?

>>6811503
It's rude and patronizing to see transguys as women, use female pronouns and describing them in feminized manners. Avoid that and you'll be fine.

>>6811503
just give them a vial of T and some needles and guaranteed dates.

>>6811503
I actually like when friends go "wow, you got facial hair" or say I have really deep voice t b h but compliments on different things are cool too, like some people who thought I'm cis called me a "pretty boy" and each time it made my day. Or compliments on my hair are cool too even though I got girly hairstyle

I think aside of personality ones the compliment that got me the most was the deep voice one (girl said she was surprised seeing this voice belongs to me because apparently it sounds very manly and I'm small and feminine) - it's because I never liked my voice and never got complimented on it. The standard tactic with complimenting on something unusual always works and if you pick something masculine it should be perfect for making ftm dude's day (and making him think fondly of you)

>>6811503
Just don't compliment out of pity and you'll probably be fine.

I get pissy when people initiate a conversation about my results from HRT but thats just me. I prefer to be treated like i was a cis man.

FL to NH anon here. Struggling a lot with making new friends... My dysphoria has been at an all time high and it's keeping me from talking to people or even going outside my dorm. There's a few transguys here who I want to befriend but they're so charismatic and pass well, I'm super intimidated and a tad bit jealous. Other than that, I'm enjoying the weather up here. Much better than the scorching hell hole that is Florida. Also planning on seeing a therapist and getting fit at the gym here, hopin that will clear up some of my low self esteem.
I think an anon asked in the last thread, I'm going to the art college in Manchester.

>>6812220
I'm glad you like NH. Try to break out of your shell and meet some new people. Being charismatic is a skill like any other in that you need practice to be good but it can be learned. Good luck anon ;)

Some good news over in >>6812842

>>6813541
Nice. Swimming is pretty bold too, considering how exposed his body becomes to scrutiny.

>>6803924
But I am 5'9", and with abs for that matter.

Now if I drew myself as a standard dude rather than an androgynous freak, that would be another matter.

>coming to term with being a dude (holy shit) and picking names
>have childhood oc that i used to play while playing pretend
>realize character's name (Nathan/Nate) was pretty popular the year i was born
>don't know anyone w/ name, feels right
>nagging guilt over naming self after childhood oc
A-am i a terrible person, /lgbt/? The character was basically a self insert anyway, so it's not like I'm really naming myself after him or anything...

Okay, I hate the pronoun shit because of snowflakes, but it's a fact that I don't wanna be called "she" after I look more like a guy... So I was wondering at what point should I start telling people to call me he?

I've been on T for 7 months, and look like a guy in every way except for my completely unbind-able DDs. those come off in december.

>>6810765
Lowering your bodyfat percentage helps a bit, but the only thing that'll actually get you male levels of T is an actual T prescription.

>>6810904
Huh. I'm incredibly hairy but I always assumed that it was something besides T since I'm also so curvy. How did you figure out that you had PCOS?

>>6813541
I wonder if he wears a packer while he's swimming. Theoretically it would slow him down for the same reasons that swimmers shave all their body hair off, extra friction, but I can't imagine not feeling dysphoric as fuck in a speedo without one.

>>6813944
I'm pre-everything so not a great judge, but my plan would be to just not say anything and wait for people to start correcting themselves. It's basically impossible to not pass after you've been on T long enough so I feel like people would feel awkward and switch after I was on it for awhile. If that wasn't happening though I'd tell them after my voice dropped.

>>6814214
I'm thinking more family-wise.

>>6813904

No one has to know, go for it, n8 is a gr8 name

>>6813944
Are they really unbindable / impossible to hide somehow?
I started using right pronouns like a month after starting T, my voice dropped so even if my face was girly when I said something people would correct themselves. I'm flat tho

>>6814560
I have the tri-top binder from underworks, and the best it possibly does it bring me to a small C.

>>6813904
>nagging guilt over naming self after childhood oc
I wouldn't feel guilty for a second, the thought wouldn't even strike me. I think it's cool that you found a name you already have a connection with.

>tfw youve found a name you love
>tfw you know so many people with that name
>tfw you feel weird now about the name

>>6814971
Iktf. The douchelets I have known in my life have killed several names for me.

>>6813944
I started using he pronouns after I started binding and looking guyish (which was a mistake, but still). I think you can start asking people to switch over now.

>>6815153
>>6814225
Hahaaaa just kidding, didn't see that. If you don't have to, why would you literally ever tell your family?

>>6815155
I disowned my parents, but other people may well have a salvageable relationship, or at least they want to try and see.

>>6802564
The random straight cis guy who wants to fuck the shit out of early transition pre-op ftms here.

Just went searching for amature ftms. Found some unbelievably hot vids founds some right monsters that made me question if I should continue to see FtMs as fuckable or not...
Then I saw something that I try not to find.

A post op FtM with full bottom surgery. He was sewn shut and had the fake testicles put in and the full clit release and. It looked fucking heart breaking. They were pawing at their shut hole while running a vibrator over their new dick and desperately trying to cum and I just felt both sad and like I wish I had fucked their brains out before he had the surgery.

>>6815204
Please leave.

>>6815155
I'm completely out to my entire family, and that's not the problem, my mom was just wondering when she should start referring to me as "he" in conversations.

>>6815209
Right now? Yesterday? Seven months, or a year ago? What goalposts are you really looking for? If people around you are actually ready and willing, count your blessings, familia.

>>6815209
Oh. If you have a good relationship with them and you look like a dude, why not? Take advantage of your loving family, senpai. I mean, if you want to wait until you get top surgery then that's up to you, but I wouldn't stress about it too much.

>>6815209
Anytime is a good moment with your familia if they're OK with your decision, the earlier the better t b h since it'll take a while until they get used to it

Is it, in any way whatsoever, a good idea to transition if I'm more androgynous than exactly male? Fuck, I know how you feel about special snowflakes but goddamn. I definitely want mastectomy, I can tell you that much, but I'm starting to have doubts not only because of social implications (esp in a closed minded countryside area) but also because of my appearance. I hate all the curves I have and have been gaining and my voice and whatnot but I'm scared T will completely annihilate me and masculinize me too much and you know how goddamn irreversible T is.

>>6802564
You guys ever get the feeling that breast removal is pushed by people who make money on it?
That they go out of their way to make you hate your body to fill their coffers?

>>6815305
What changes are you worried about? Low dose is a thing, but it's not perfect. There are also SARMs that are less androgenic, or just finasteride, but you're on your own with that.

>>6815323
No, but I think you should leave, mr. Concern.

>>6815204
lol

>tfw you hate ftms and cis women
>tfw you don't hate men and trannies
what's wrong with me?

cis guy, for reference

>>6815205
Why?

>>6815490
Nobody gives a shit about your fetish
Kys

>>6815323
No more than any other surgery. If there were no FtM mastectomies I'd just take a knife and cut the retarded pieces of shit off myself, before killing myself in such a way that my body would be practically annihilated and no one would mourn me as a random grill.

I couldn't even be """"lesbian"""" because I kept thinking of how attractive any woman, cis or trans, would be without those disgusting bags of tissue strapped onto their pecs.

If you think this is caused by "le Dr. Shekelbergs and Big Surgery making our wimminz hate their bodies" meme, you just might be more autistic than I am.

>>6815305
I'm the agender anon from a couple of threads back. Being socially agender is impractical, but being read as male is a lot better than being read as female to me.

That's part of the reason I want top surgery before I go on T, although that may not be possible. I have huge top dysphoria, milder for pretty much everything else. You could always stay at a low dose indefinitely, which is something I'm considering. you should start low and stay low for a while anyways for best voice results, which is something that's really important to me.

>>6815323
No. Large breasts are pushed: breast augmentation, push up bras, boob contouring, etc etc.

Besides, the people who do top surgery usually do tons of other types of plastic surgeries which tend to be more expensive.

>>6803998

As another anon mentioned, it's impractical to live as nonbinary. Maybe when I'm old it'll be okay but right now we live in a male-female society. I can't see stand living as female so living as male is my go-to. It's dysphoria inducing too but I can ignore it much more easily.

>>6815860
"nonbinary" isn't a thing, you can still be a male even if you don't want to perfectly conform to male gender roles. No cis male even wants to perfectly conform to male gender roles. Male gender roles are insane.

>>6815889
My dysphoria manifests in a way that I wish I had no primary or secondary sex characteristics. I want to be completely genderless and androgynous. Obviously impossible to achieve, and male is closer than female, but it's not about gender roles. I have no social dysphoria and honestly wish I could keep being treated like a pretty girl, because this is life on easy mode.

>>6815323
Not at all. I think that viewpoint is kinda crazy desu.

>>6815889

I don't give a ceap about gender roles. Heck, I write a lot of femboy characters and butch female characters. It's not about gender roles anymore than being ftm is.

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>>6815912
>male is closer than female
>I have no social dysphoria and honestly wish I could keep being treated like a pretty girl

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>>6815912

>that whole post

Also I'm sure there is a surgery where they scoop your goop out, tie it up and leave you with a urethra. We already know mastectomies are a thing too. Your secondary-sex free life isn't that much of a wetdream.

The rest of your post is carcinogenic though.

>>6815809
>thinking of how attractive any woman, cis or trans, would be without those disgusting bags of tissue strapped onto their pecs.
Huh. I keep compulsively visualising giving myself and others mastectomies, in this very clay figure way. Intrusive thoughts, like, though it hasn't really bothered me.

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>>6816050
>giving myself and others mastectomies, in this very clay figure way
Like so?

>>6816059
Damn!
Almost, but actually more like www.instagram.com/sand.isfying
except with modelling clay.
It's cool to know I'm not the only one to have these daydreams.

>>6802564
>Weird habits edition
>>6816050
>>6816059
>>6816091
Accidentally veered onto topic

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U think my skelly is ok?
sfw amirite? ;)

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>>6816367
U think I will pass based on these pics alone?

>>6816372
>>6816367
You have a decent starting point, I don't see why you wouldn't.

>>6816367
>>6816372
>shoulders wider than hips
you'll be fine my man

>>6814971
>be me
>Have pretty unique name, never know or hear of anyone who has my birth name
>Around the same time I choose an equally hipster male name that no one really uses, my birth name starts to become super popular and every other little girl has this name, new female AI or whatever also named my birthname

I'm a fashionable trendsetter what can I say

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>fishing pole got messed up
>feel emasculated
>mfw damn pole was a penis substitute all along
How many of you guys do this? I don't act like some insecure macho faggot, but I like to be the provider, and I hate when other people, especially guys, plays the protective role or tries to be the big spender.

>>6816367
>>6816372
You pass better than most of /fit/. Seconding the shoulder thing. Upper body work will accentuate it more. Recommend it.

Still no luck on finding my dog. I'm gonna put a letter in the mailbox of the church nearby and beg politely for help. Kind of hope the woman goes there. Going to give her the same letter. I hate feeling like a creep leaving her notes but she may be my only chance. I wish she could at least tell me the truth, then she could tell me to fuck off. Not like i actually want to talk to her.

>>6816367
Nice twink butt/10
I'm sure plenty of dudes would want to fuck you, if you're into that

>claim to be transitioning from female to male
>get the most feminine short haircut possible

?????????????????????????

>>6815930

*crap

>>6815305

If you have dysphoria, get the surgery. Simple. You don't need to have breasts if you don't want them. I have even heard of butch women getting top surgery.

>>6816637

I wish I could get a cute haircut but afros only come in one type pretty much. Some guys are just into more androgynous or feminine style.

>>6816631
Do you have pet registrationwhere you live? Here all dogs have to be registered to an owner, and if you have the dogs ID then you can track it if you have probable cause or something like that.

>>6816668
Afro hair genes have the most insane variations. what are you talking about?

>>6816367
>>6816372

Wide shoulders and comparably narrow hips. If you wanna thicken out your waist, do some deadlifts. They thicken your core nicely and help broaden your shoulders too.

>>6816668
You're hung up on your fro, bro. I kinda wanna see it. (but up front it's not a fair trade, I'm not posting mine.)

>>6816704
>inb4 snap city

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hey lads, this is really off topic and has nothing to do with anything but I know some of you associate me with an angry person but irl I'm actually a huge softy and care more about other people and keeping them near to me rather than caring about myself. I actually never really had friends up until the 8th grade when I stopped hiding myself in a tiny box as much. I'm just aftraid of showing anger to people so I occasionally need a place to rant. continue on with your daily program now.

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>>6816788
Not sure if trolling but if it's you can you draw me a possum pls? Will repay with bellyrubs.
Also, not perceiving you as aggro. No worries, benisbro.

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>>6816826
ohs hit

>>6816729

4 MORE SCOOPS

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>>6816914
Awesome!
"ebin bellyrubs"

>>6816947

REE

Cis guy here
I'm on TRT because I discovered that my body produced zero testosterone at all
Like I have a FtM friend who isn't on the T yet and he's got a more fucking masculilne body than me
I'm on week 7 and things are... mostly the same. I got an extra inch added onto my baby dick and I'm super horny and hungry all the time. That's all that's changed
When did TRT start having a major physical change on you? When can I expect leg hair, voice drop, etc

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>>6816975
No bellyrubs for loud faggots

>>6817013

I don't want belly rubs from smelly gaped anuses like yourself

>>6817010
Post bb dick pls

I don't know whats going on anymore

>>6817010
HRT*? I'm not on T yet just wanted to correct you like a faggot

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>>6817023
Rude. Apologize pls.

>>6817044

I'll apologise when you stop being such a FAGGOT

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>>6817050
U d faggot

>>6817076

u

>>6817026
I'm 19 mods and this is pic if self this is not cp no ban pls
https://m.imgur.com/Acef8sI
If you'd believe it it was half that size mid July before I started
>>6817029
Is there a difference? HRT is for any hormones and TRT is for specifically testosterone yes?

>>6817099

Dude. I'm sorry.

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>>6817080
no u

>>6817102
doc says T will give me normal dick eventually. but yeah it sucks ass

>>6817099
It just looks funny. Bigger than mine tbqh i thibk and im cismale.

>>6817010
Welcome to the club, familia.
I began getting small changes almost immediately but it took three months before other people really noticed, and by six months I had some scruff and body hair, plus a distinctly male voice.

Plus huge, muscly thighs. Fucking tree trunks. I haven't even earned them, and funnily enough they do not help me pass.

>>6817131
Cis male here

Test makes your dick bigger?

>>6817117
At least you'll grow, dude. Go powerbottom mode in the mean time.

>>6817126
It's also relevant to say I had surgery on my dick at age 5 because I had a small tumor grow in my urethra. It was horrible. Now it looks like a frankenweenie. Especially from the underside.
I feel sorry for you then dude. How big are you? Because at this point I measure 2' or 2.5' if I measure generously.
>>6817131
That's a helpful reply thank you
I just want the changes now.
I was hoping to be masculine by the time the school year started but it took forever to see the endocrinologist
I guess I should be more masculine by the time next semester starts which is good
I'm a fucking sophmore in college and people think I'm a high schooler touring the school or a lesbian
>>6817139
Yes it happens to every male between ages 10-15. It's called puberty. The t shots are going to make me go through that (however late it may be).
>>6817145
Yeah I'm excited about that. I am a bottom I think but I also want to try topping too and I'm just scared that if I try to get some fuck then I'll just be laughed at.

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>>6817010

>>6817201
Thanks man
>tfw October 14th is likely the earliest to expect any changes

>>6817240

Put it in the calendar, senpai. It's the day you became a man(lier?)

>>6817201
Ymmv. My clit grew three days on T and I'm already gaining muscle 3 months in.

>>6810754
Yeah do t follow the trap guide anyhow. Jist go full hrt.

>>6816367
>>6816372
>lurking straight guy who's been waiting for this
Good good.
Totally pass
>fapfapfapfapfap
You should post a front shot...for reasons
>FAPFAPFAP

>>6817310
Are you underage or intellectually stunted, because it's one of the two

>>6817310
why the fuck do you cisstraights feel the need to tell everyone your gender everywhere you go?

>>6817099
well we are relacing estrogen with testosterone while you are replacing the ever growing void with testosterone you were supposed to naturally have :^)

>>6817693
It's the mtfs false flagging. But than again they are straight men so...idk...

>>6817427
if that were the case, they'd be a tranny.

TMI

I was jerking off and afterwards I smelled cum on my fingers?? Like actual male semen. Can T do this or am I losing my mind?

>>6817310
>You should post a front shot...for reasons
Blue board, but I might start camming. Lurk this gen for another month and I might eventually post a link.

>>6816704
>deadlifts
Protein powder purchased

>>6816633
Yeah, I love getting dicked. I have a boyfriend but he told me not to send him nudes at work ;__;

>>6816413
>I don't see why you wouldn't
I look very young in the face, although T is slowly fixing this. 38 days.

>>6817723
That is most definitely a thing, yes.

>>6817707
>But than again they are straight men
#nuclearshotsfired
#holocaustburn

>>6817099
Is that a meta? If not, what the fuck, I'm incredibly, incredibly goddamn jealous.

>>6816367
>>6816372
hot twink mode

would bf & let my bp be destroyed by/5

>>6817790
Wait no it turns out I'm an idiot and apparently can't delete posts on mobile, missed the bit where he said he was cis.

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>>6816372
>tfw this literally looks like my body
>tfw mtf 14 months on hrt

>>6817819
Workout and you won't be so skinny.

on a scale of 1 to 10 how bad was your pain after double incision top surgery?

>>6817819
Cute twink bf noticed

>>6816631
You could try sticking something up on Craigslist, or any lost and found type notice boards in your area. Might be someone out there with more info for you.

>>6817819
>crying about looking like a pre-T trans man

fuckin wat, don't you want to be a woman?

Do any of you take sustanon? If so, how bad is the pain? I'm on a half dose and it's certainly not pleasant. Second shot so far and it hurts the same as my first shot. Have had a few other injections in my butt so I'm not entirely new to it. Any hope of it getting better as time goes on?

>>6817819
That body type looks pretty androgynous, you can rock it gurl.

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Shitposting is now in session, boys

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>>6820833
I need cheering up. Tell a story.

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>>6820880

Once upon a time a qt piglet wore little botties and ran around in the mud.

When that piggy grew up he was humanely slaughtered and butchered. It's bacon was cooked deliciously and put in my sammige and I ate it and lived happily ever after. The end.

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>>6820893
Bacon is disgusting. What's wrong with you?

>>6820893
I can't stand the taste of pork, no idea what appeals to others about it.

>>6814202
Not the same anon you were replying to, but I was diagnosed by my doctor after some blood tests results came back and showed my testosterone levels were about double what they were supposed to be for a normal female. They just confirmed what I had always suspected, due to symptoms such as being very hirsute and clitromegaly.
It's entirely possible to still have large breasts and/or a womanly figure even if you have PCOS, however. PCOS doesn't mean you stop developing female features, it just means you also have high levels of male hormones too.
But there's quite a few types of PCOS, and obesity and insulin-reistsance are also other common symptoms that go along with PCOS types too.
>>6804218
There is a study on it, somewhere, showing around 60%, maybe more, of FtMs had PCOS. And there may even be more studies out by now - but there's definitely some correlation between FtMs and PCOS.
>>6804279
>If you're born with insane birthing hips and doubleDs the idea of becoming the man you feel you are might seem insane, but If you already have male fat distribution and a semi-beard? Idk.
I would just like to reiterate this:
>It's entirely possible to still have large breasts and/or a womanly figure even if you have PCOS, however. PCOS doesn't mean you stop developing female features, it just means you also have high levels of male hormones too.

>>6820893
absolutelyharam.jpg

>>6821045
Do you have a good link to the different types of PCOS? What kind do you have?

Does a male version of PCOS exist? Like men having high levels of estrogen?

>>6820914
>>6820917
65% of Americans would support bacon becoming the national food. What's wrong with YOU?

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The (((MODERN MALE))).

>>6821105
>65% of Americans
nuff said

>>6821105
Thank god I'm not from USA.

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>mfw I forgot my packer on the washing machine in the broad daylight and some repairmen came to change my shower doors

Good thing I'll probably never see those people again

>>6821097
There's loads of sites, really. Here's one I was looking at recently: http://natural-fertility-info.com/types-of-pcos.html
Insulin resistance PCOS seems to be the most common for women, I have PCOS with no insulin resistance issues thankfully, so I suppose it would be type 4/Idiopathic Hirsuitism.
>Does a male version of PCOS exist? Like men having high levels of estrogen?
Funny you should say that, as male relatives of PCOS women can actually have similar symptoms to them. You might also want to read a couple of articles which I just found after considering your question: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306987706007754
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15209536
Although, I have never come across a specific, named disorder where men naturally have too much oestrogen. Usually I only hear about male oestrogen in relation to say, gynecomastia/male breast growth, which can be caused by having too much testosterone that excess is converted into oestrogen, or too low T levels to balance out the E to begin with.

But I'm no doctor

>>6821112
TL;DR
Is that your drawing or something?

>>6821250
No, it is drawn by )))a man((( who can't keep getting away with it.

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>>6821205

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>>6821250
I'll give ya a hint.

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>>6821268
If that's the case, I'd make an actual effort to read it, but it's being spammed with no context in other threads too.

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>>6821268
>>6821297

My niggest of niggers

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>>6821297
It is the case.
https://www.reddit.com/r/milliondollarextreme/comments/3h8rfx/did_mdesam_really_make_this_ive_seen_it_posted/cu5kct8


MAGA.

>>6821235
Thanks. I'll check it out.

mtfg is always going on about
>>6819895

so let's do the same. Are there any cis males that you "could be trans"/look trans or whatever?

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>>6822233

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>>6822233
Dub dubs checked

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>>6822233
Ooops. Meant dubs and trips.

>>6817201
Good example of YMMV.
Periods stopped immediately.
Facial hair started immediately (though I was already pretty hairy to begin with)
Muscle mass started like a month in (I was already a lifter beforehand)
Still no noticeable clitoral enlargement after 8 months. and my hairline is already started to recede a bit on the top corners

How do you guys with coping with waiting for top surgery? I'm ony like 1.5k away from having enough money but it's still going to be another 5+ months but all I can do is think about is having it and actually being able to be comfortable in my body. It's constantly on my mind and even if I try to distract myself I always keep going back to thinking how I will never truely be able to enjoy my life until I get it. I can't live or be happy when I'm being chocked by a binder but going without one makes me want to kill myself even more. I'm obsessing over top surgery and it's the only thing I care about right now and I can't stop thinking about it because the thought of it is the only thing keeping me from offing myself right now.

>>6820236
You might be doing it wrong, nicking a nerve or something. When I first started my shots, i would almost always nick a nerve and the pain would shoot down my leg, until they retaught me the right way to do it. All you should feel is a slight burning when you're actually injecting the sustanon.

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>>6822233
Varg is love. Varg is life.

>>6822436
I'm not doing them, I'm having an experienced nurse do them. Definitely no nerves are being hit since the shot itself doesn't hurt, it's only a few hours afterwards that it gets sore. Had really bad experiences with the non-t-related injections though, apparently that nurse had no fucking clue what part of my ass the needle goes in. Hurt like hell during the injection, then was very numb and painful for a week, then it slowly got less but here I am, months later, still with a little bit of numbness and pain.

>>6822374
I'm in the same grind. Binding over six years now. I hate it, but more than that I'm so tired of it.

Lacking the last third to make surgery work.

I'm thinking of taking up a loan since while I'm poor I've learned to be frugal and know my budget intimately. It makes me nervous though, because it's money and I've never done it and I don't know how.

>>6822461
You're talking about two different shot experiences right?, and you do switch back to talking about the testosterone one in the last sentence?

>>6822461
What dosage are you on? Where are you getting the injections? I give myself injections on the thigh, and the whole thigh gets pretty sensitive for a few days. like the whole thing is bruised, especially since they upped my dosage.

>>6822510
Yeah, two different shot experiences. First two sentences are about T, last two are about other injections in my butt.

>>6822532
125mg/3weeks, if I remember correctly. It's a half ampoule. Yeah, feels like a bruise for me too, just a bad one. I get it at the doc that prescribed it, she has a nurse there who does injections 3x per week (for trans guys), she's been doing that for years. Injections going in (or out) never hurt, as I said, the area just gets sore after a few hours.

>>6822550
I'm at 150mg/2weeks. To answer your first post higher up, The pain doesn't get worse than with lower injections, just lingers longer, like a few days.

>>6822532
>feels like a bruise
>>6822550

that's because it is basically a bruise.

a bruise is when blood and plasma leak into the surrounding tissues.
in the same mammer, your injections are forcing fluid into intercellular matrices damaging them.

it will take several days for your body to heal.

>>6822583
I meant it as in, after I get an injection in, for example, 3 months, will the pain be less and stick around for less long than now? The pain lingers for a few days for me now anyways.

>>6822602
Nah, it stays pretty much the same, but you get used to it. the only thing that will be more painful is the burning during injection, because the dose will probably be higher.

>>6822772
Didn't really notice any burning during injection to be honest. Yeah, my dose will be doubled in a few weeks. I'm supposed to switch over to nebido but I'm not so sure I want to, any chance you might have any experience with that one too?

>>6822374
I mostly just drink a lot and pretend I'm ok with looking like a bulldyke.

I want top surgery before I start testosterone, but I don't know if I'm gonna hold out. My tits are almost unbindable and its hot and humid here. Plus the only thing keeping me from dying is the fact that they're perky and don't touch me when I'm not wearing my binder, I don't know what I'd do if I could feel them flopping around all the time.

>>6822947
If you know you want T I wouldn't wait to do it. You won't get to a place where your tits dangle and if they're no good anyway trying to keep them beautiful until they leave... well I guess if it helps how you cope with them, but while I briefly thought it, I didn't think it made for a compelling argument against T and I haven't looked back. Though I'll be 1.5 years on T before top surgery I wish I had started sooner. That's me though.

>>6823305
Have you SEEN pre-top surgery photos? They make me sick to my stomach that I might look like that.

But yeah I definitely want testosterone and you're right... I feel like I'm trying to convince myself not to do it though. My mom is gonna be so disappointed. What if my brothers never let me see my nieces and nephews again? What if I start looking too manly for my supportive, but still lesbian girlfriend?

Honestly that last ones scares me more than anything. I can't lose her. I want to marry her, I don't know what I'd do without her.

>>6823369
Not the person you're replying to. My family is supportive but I'm in a pretty similar situation relationship wise. I have a straight boyfriend though. Scared of losing him too, hopefully we'll get through it. He says he's trying to be open minded but there's no way he'd be attracted to a masculine man. I guess we'll see how stuff goes, so far I'm a few weeks on T. I'd be pretty devastated if I lost him though.

another dream where pumping grants me a real dick

thanks for taunting me brain

at least pumping is still pretty fun i guess

>>6822947
>my tits are almost unbindable
>don't touch me
You and I have a very different idea of what an unbindable size is, clearly.

>>6823662
I mean, there's still a noticeable lump when I bind. Enough that it looks like tits. They're just perky enough that there's minimal boob to chest contact. I could post pics later if you want I guess?

>go onto /toy/ for the toys-to-life gens
>suddenly notice fashion dolls, dollhouses, and stuffed animals gens
>must... resist... temptation to collect

._.

If I was cis it'd be quirky and cute to collect that stuff at my age.

mde is so played out its embarrassing watching people discover something I was already over 2 years ago

>>6823739
>If I was cis it'd be quirky and cute to collect that stuff at my age.
That is simply not the case, collections like that are always, always weird, not everything is about your transgenderism.

>t. cisgendered man

>>6824038
you didn't have to sign that post, it was pretty obvious

>>6824058
I should have also mentioned that I actually have weird collections so I do know what I'm talking about.

>>6823739
Hi oryx

>>6823662
Im a cisgendered muscular bi man tbqh...be my bf.

>tfw work tomorrow
>tfw when chugging your eighth beer
>tfw no comfy Brooklyn posts

What a confusing night

>>6825074
What exactly about that post elicited this response?

>>6825524
Because I saw your picture last thread and I think you're a really cute boy tbqh... also you have a good personality from what I've seen tbqh...

>>6825576
Unfortunately I have a gf :^)

>>6825638
Mmmkay just know that im always lurking tbqh and if you ever need a cute bi guy thats muscular funny cute and confident ill be around tbqh...

>>6824038
>tfw I have a male BJD to live vicariously though

>>6825681
I collect BJDs, though I started collecting them after I had already transitioned and I only collect female dolls. I don't give a fuck if it's a female dominated hobby, though dolfie dreams are more male oriented anyway I think. All dem hentai dolls.

>>6822830
no sorry, I was on sustanon, and switched to delatestryl

>>6825711
I tend to assume every Dollfie Dream posted online has had a dick rubbed on her face. Creepy as hell. I think that's why I only have my boy, naturally less creepy and I don't have much of an interest in female fashion anyway.

I haven't even gotten my doll out in ages, feels bad but I can't afford to do anything for him right now. NEET life driving me crazy.

>>6823369
>Have you SEEN pre-top surgery photos? They make me sick to my stomach that I might look like that.
Yes, faM, I have. I chose that. Sorry you feel that way.

Any guys in the UK know of a list of top surgeons operating in the UK, under the NHS?
I may be able to have surgery in the next year or two through the NHS, which would mean possibly choosing my own UK surgeon. I'm just having a lot of trouble finding surgeons who actually produce ... good results.
I'm also tossing around the idea of just ... taking out a credit card or loan and using it to fund a trip to a surgeon in America.

>>6822374
Maaan. I've been binding for years and years too, and I'm really sick of it. I just want these things gone. In the meantime, imagining how great it's going to be to finally have a flat chest after surgery helps to make it sting less. No more binding, can go shirtless in the summer, go swimming in public again... I'm waiting for all of this.

Looking at the catalog I think the new janitors burned out already. It's mostly trash and bait.

>>6825950
This entire board is a joke, there's so much garbage. At least we can have one good gen.

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>>6822233

>>6825666
Go away, maki

>>6825723
I mean, it's going to happen anyways I guess, I'm not gonna stop binding. I just feel so sick when I think about them in general. I wish I had money.

>>6826238
Rock and a hard place, isn't it. I wish I had money too.

>>6826225
>>6825666
Satan trips confirms. Maki pls go.

>>6824038

They're only weird when you're like 40.

>>6826641
It's weird and creepy dude.

>>6825161

sorry... haven't really been around, idk... haven't really been feeling much like talking to people... just need alone time and to clear my head ... so just a lot of this: https://vid.me/Kg0H fucking around with melancholy man by the moody blues... and just... there's gonna be a storm today so i'm all twitchy and stuck in bed and sick as fuck, on the bright side i'm high that's always nice

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>tfw plagued by purposelessness, failure, self-hatred and fear of death
>start army application
>no idea how they'd take the trans thing
>tfw all over again

MTV Classic keeps on giving early 2000s music videos which only makes me notice even more than before how much I hate late 90s through mid 2000s fashion. I never understood the whole "oversized shirts and low-riding jeans" fad amongst black and latino guys, and I'm both of those. It just looks stupid and it's not even sexy. Wouldn't it be sexier to wear tight clothes that show off your body?

Men's fashion is pretty crappy tbqh. I just stick with casual prep style.

>>6826765

>fear death
>enter the army

Why? What position are you looking for?

I don't know how it is in your country but iirc trans men are only allowed in the American military if they have bottom surgery.

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>>6826727

+ have a pic of gypsy from the other day when we were chilling in a public garden...

>>6826655
seconded, and i love dolls and figurines and shit

>>6826794
It's more the prospect of waking up dead one day, especially leaving behind this shitty life I've lead so far. A relative of mine died of a brain aneurysm out of nowhere and it scares the shit outta me. A military death is my own fault and dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.

I'm going for British army, which has a really terrible LGBT section on its site.

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>>6826807

+ i thought this was pretty funny... i found it trying to find out more about dogwood berries, they're edible and we have a ton growing by the house...

>>6826808

they just collect dust though... and sit there

>>6826765
>tfw tranny
>tfw 21 and still living the NEET life
>tfw the question of when you're going to an hero regularly occurs to you
still wouldn't join the army
>>6826816
>waking up dead
well lucky for you you won't actually one day wake up to realise you're dead and that you died peacefully in your sleep or whatever
>A relative of mine died of a brain aneurysm out of nowhere and it scares the shit outta me
statistically that sort of thing is really unlikely though, right? less so if you're still young. even if it's a family thing, you're probs only slightly more at risk.

i don't understand why a fear of death would propel you to put yourself in statistically more dangerous situations

any position in particular you're gunning for?

>>6826879

you don't understand someone wanting to have a bit of a choice in their death? everyone dies, being afraid of how it might happen and being comfortable with the idea of it happening some way that you chose makes sense to me... idk... i don't find it strange that he feels that way...

>>6826891

Not that anon, but at my age I don't go around contemplating my inevitable demise. I already had an existential crisis at age 18 and all it did was give me tension headaches. I just hope, like many people, that I die at age 90 surrounded by family. Not alone with my pets because that's scary (plus I'm rather rehome them before I die because I do not trust my family with pets), not asleep because that doesn't sound peaceful at all, preferably at home.

How much do jobs care about appearance? I've been trying to get a job but my parents are giving me trouble. They say no one will hire me unless I shave, cut my hair short, and cut my sideburns. I'm pre-everything and this is annoying. I don't get these stupid double standards. If I was a guy they wouldn't complain about my body hair or hairstyle but since I'm not living as male...

>>6826950

i don't spend much time thinking about my own death, but if given the choice i'd want to kill myself personally... no set age or anything, just when it feels like time then that seems preferable to me... i think everyone's got an idea of what they'd prefer, personally even if i was physically fit i wouldn't be looking to join the army... but i guess i get his mentality cuz i've seen my s/o where he is, and idk that i'd call it an existential crisis, but depression yeah... depression and feeling unfulfilled and dispassionate... it happens, and with the military... he might find what he's looking for, and if he doesn't then he might just die in a way he chooses... seems like it could be win/win if it's what he wants

>>6826983
Cis guys are also required to shave, keep their hair presentable, and not look like a homeless person when applying for a job.

>>6826983

my brother has had jobs where they have facial hair restrictions... one was moustache only... and unless you're amazingly talented looking presentable matters when you go for a job, but what the fuck do i know? i've only had a "real job" for a year and that was years ago and the time i spent at 2 jobs added together...

>>6826983
Post a pic if that's ok, even of just the hair? Looking presentable can be hard, women can get away with way more in certain situations, but it depends. Also, where do you live?

>>6826538
>>6826225
Don't know who that is

Hey lads, I don't know where else to go for this but I'm troubled. It's embarrassing and I'm tired of it bugging me. Sorry to be a downer.
My boyfriend, who is also ftm, won't touch me back after sexual stuff. He's fine with me getting him off, but after he won't touch me back at all. Will barely even cuddle me. I've tried talking with him about it, I need to be touched too- but he seemed to avoid what I said. It happened again today, and it's hurting me in multiple ways. Making me feel worthless. What do I even say or do at this point?

>>6822233
Aziz Ansari.

>>6827082
maybe he gets dysphoric seeing the similarities between your body and his own, i know i've encountered similar feelings before

you'll probably have to be outright and explain how you're feeling about it and let him know it's alright to express his feelings on the matter even if he feels ashamed/guilty/uncomfortable letting it out. where you take it from there i guess you gotta work out between you

>>6827082

if i wanted to stay with him i'd tell him i loved him and wanted a relationship, but that i had sexual needs too and if he's uncomfortable or unwilling to satisfy them it'd be unfair unless i could fuck other people... and i'd leave it he wasn't willing to either try or let me have sex with people outside the relationship...

>>6827156

if*

>>6827156

+ a relationship is more than just sex sure, but it isn't worth never being touched or fulfilled sexually... especially if the other person is being selfish about it, i mean... you're getting him off and then getting nothing in return ever, that's only gonna breed resentment and insecurity... neither of which are promising longterm

>>6826983
Don't know how your facial hair looks exactly, but if you're pre-T, I doubt it looks presentable enough to go to a job interview. Guys need to take care of their facial hair to not look like a homeless guy, or if they can't grow much in the first place, if gives virgin stache feel and it's better shaved.

Falling for cis gay guys only into cis gay guys makes wonders for your dysphoria. Specially when you hear that literally everybody in this goddamn world - even MtFs - have a chance with them as long as they have no tits and a dick... Ahhhh. So good.

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>>6826879
I'm not exactly putting myself in the line of fire as cannon fodder, I'm not stupid. I'm qualified enough that I could get a logistics or communications position though I saw a listing for tank crew which would be pretty dope. Even if that turns out to be suicide by war, that is true an hero. Also any natural death for me is a roll of the dice, nearly no blood family history and my non-blood relatives have been struck down with all manners of things so it doesn't inspire confidence.

>>6827000
You've pretty much nailed it there. Of all the places depression could drive me, the military isn't so bad. Better than a rooftop I think. Did your s/o deal with it or did it just pass?

>>6826950
Honestly, I don't see myself living to old age. Sounds like spending a long time waiting to die. I'm 22 and already been doing a lot of that. Started hating birthdays at around 16 because it reminded me of my own mortality.


This discussion is even more depressing than the ones we usually get here and that's saying something. My bad.

>>6827814
Not who you're talking to but I feel ya on the family thing. Half of my family is shrouded in mystery (literally, nobody knows who they even are, where to find them or if they're still alive) and the other half has all kinds of weird shit.

>>6827814

shit in our lives changed, and he doesn't feel depressed the ways he did... and well he never actually joined, partially cuz i wasn't ok with it... it's not something i would want in a relationship you know? i mean... i would've stayed regardless and he knew it though so idk... but yeah it never happened and now shit's changed and he's happier and he's working towards achieving something doing shit he enjoys so now he doesn't want that

you might not always feel the way you do now, it works for some people, and it's worth it to them...

my older bro's friend really benefitted a lot from joining the navy... he's got a wife and kids and shit now he's traveled a lot... and his family life was shit, he fucking came to live in my house all the time to get away from his mom cuz she was worse than my dad... and yeah... he wasn't getting out of there otherwise, not by himself anyway...which is what he wanted

as for the mortality shit... idk... my birthday doesn't make me think about mortality, i mean... there's fucking 3 year olds who run out into the street and get hit by cars, and people who live long lives and smoke and drink the entire time... people have fucking strokes, get into horrific accidents, survive all kinds of fucked up shit while others die falling down stairs... at all ages, at all times... right now there's probably a ton of shit that could potentially kill you, or not... you just never know

best thing to do about it is figure out what you value and stop worrying so much about it, just fill your life with shit you care about and enjoy cuz what the fuck else is there?

and if you think you need to go to war to figure out the value of your own life then shit... maybe you do

the one thing i will say about the military though is that unless you really believe in what you're fighting for, and giving your life for... giving it away for someone else is sorta... well it's sad don't you think?

>>6828209

+ i also think maybe you should consider the possibility of what going to war and surviving might be like for you... like really think about surviving it rather than just dying... the shit you can survive is more important than what kills you, considering you gotta actually live with it... so there's that too...

>tfw you AMAB but feel like a FTM who wants to detransition

Anyone here a lanky goddess willing to trade bodies? 6', 20" shoulder, 28" hips, nice benis here