/ftmg/ - old man edition

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>>6622601
I could see myself as the Six Flags guy

How many of you guys have experiences with discrimination or hate crimes?

>>6622430
I can't even pinpoint how I contracted it. I had the vaccine done as a kid but apparently there's a 2 percent fail rate. I'm itchy as fuck senpai :(

>>6623560
be careful senpai, that shits a lot worse when you're older.

>>6623492
Eh not really. The worst things that have ever happened to me has been family saying some awful shit about/to me when I first came out. I guess after that? I was called a faggot by some drunk guys outside a bar while I was jogging one time. NBD really, people aren't into hate crimes here. They just get into angry drunk fights with each other.
But actually a lot of employers now ask on their application forms if you are male, female, or transgender/some other option. And the employers I have told about it have all been cool, either politely asking me questions or not bringing it up at all.

(semi unrelated) I'm looking forward to getting a passport so I don't have to out myself to employers every time I go for an interview...

>be gay ftm
>tell guy you're interested in him
>he says, "sorry but I only like vaginas"
How do you respond?

>>6623848
tell him he's in luck, cuz you have one.

>>6623848
introduce him to Chris Chan

i don't see myself getting particularly old honestly... like i just don't think it'll happen... and i'm ok with that, i've seen the worst bits of old age with my grandparents growing up, and i fully believe in euthanasia as a result...

but at any rate the plan (and i've been telling my s/o this for years at this point) is to just start taking heroin all the time at 50 cuz fuck it, and hopefully i'll just od before i get much older than that... with chronic illness and shit i'm not looking at a decent life much further in the future than that anyway...

>>6621459

oh ok, i wasn't sure... i'm bad at keeping in touch sometimes, sorry about that...

>>6624031
Its ok, so am i. if you still got my number you can text anytime.

>>6623848
Are you talking to straight men? because that's pretty doomed to fail

>>6624258
It was hypothetical so whichever i guess

>>6624050

lost it when i got a new number... there's so many more people here i hate the idea of giving info out... you have a skype?

>>6624389
Ohh lol I thought you miswrote something like "I only like penis" from other gay men. I've been dismissed by too many gay men now because of this and other ruder things have been said.

;_;

>>6624777
>and other ruder things have been said.
>other
Stop whining dude. why shouldn't gay men be allowed to have a penis preference? If a cis guy was blotched down there he probably would have lucked out too.

>>6624818
>why shouldn't gay men be allowed to have a penis preference?
He didn't say anything against this, what the hell are you on about. He didn't even bitch about it and we're currently in /ftmgen/ where ftms post ftm relevant shit including qqing about bagina consequences.

>>6624818
Found the gaygen shitposter

>>6624876
He says it's rude to say "I only like penis". It's a sexual preference, not rude in the slightest. It's not the gay guys fault that op is born with the wrong junk and also not his responsibility to fuck that junk. Grow up dude.

>>6625001
*obligation not responsibility

>>6625001
I don't mean it's that rude to say 'I like penis' but I've had gay men reject me and be like "I would never date a trans man because vaginas are fucking nasty, no hard feelings tho" and other disrespectful shit... I understand that people have preferences because I have preferences too but there's a difference between letting someone know a relationship won't work and being a raging asshole.

I know gay people don't understand, which I don't even know why you're in our general getting all defensive for no reason, but yeah, it feels terrible when someone rejects you because of your genitals and tells you that you are disgusting and they would never consider a relationship.

>>6625039
I'm ftm too, that's why I'm in the general. So people are a bit rude? Are you new to the dating scene? It has nothing to do with you being trans, that's just how the game works. If that is the worst you've experienced it's really not that bad. Imagine if a cis girl said something similar to a cis guy (well I find fat/muscles/ginger hair/gaming/whatever disgusting so no. teehee) nobody would even notice. A girl telling a guy no because he has a small cock is also not unusual, even if it is a bit direct. Those guys are just being direct. We are essentially bonus hole dicklets, and for most gay guys no-cock is a no go. Welcome to the other side, senpai.

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>>6624777

i've had gay guys ask me out, and be really accepting and cool with my situation... really respectful too... are you upfront about shit or do you spring it on them? cuz i mean... if you're not upfront you gotta expect that not everyone is gonna be cool with it...

unrelated: this happened today... mr spock flew outside, couldn't find him for a bit then i heard him calling to us and gypsy (we were whistling to him, and she was whistling with us cuz that's what they do...) and followed it 'til i found him chilling in a tree right out front... brought rocket over in their cage and put a spare open cage by the tree with some food in it, he chilled for a bit singing in the tree and being all happy and shit then jumped in his cage... took a pic when i realized all we could do was wait... unfortunately it came out shitty but eh... doesn't matter he's back in the house now and everything worked out

>>6625098
No. When you turn someone down, you don't act like that. If a cis guy said that to another cis guy, he'd still be an asshole.

>hey, I really like you
>sorry, I don't think it'd work out/I'm just not into you that way/etc

If they ask why, just deflect. "There just wasn't a spark" or whatever. Or just gradually stop talking to them, even/especially if they're being all clingy about it.

You don't tell someone "oh it's because you're a fat piece of shit and I think you're disgusting." Or "your dick looks like a broken thumb and makes me want to vomit," so you wouldn't say "your vagina is disgusting." That just makes you an asshole.

>>6625236
>That just makes you an asshole.
Yes.. Geesh you're a protected little fairy flake aren't you.

>>6625236
>"your vagina is disgusting."
Didn't he say vaginas in general are disgusting? Nothing to do with yours particularly. It's like saying "No, I find fat disgusting" to a fat guy rather than saying "No, you are a disgusting fat fuck". Very different.

>>6625277

eh either way it isn't polite... shit happens and it's not worth getting hung up about, but that doesn't mean that's how someone should speak to people... you'd talk to someone like that? cuz when i turn people down i try to be nice about it so they don't feel bad...

>>6625244

are you used to people treating you like shit or something? cuz i mean... that's not a normal way to say you aren't interested... worst i've ever gotten was someone asking me out then telling me they need monogamy and can't be in a relationship where they aren't the only one after we've gotten to know each other better...

i'm not saying it's worth being crushed by, but that's not exactly cool to do to someone either...

Does your sense of smell change on T? I've never met any cis guys with a decent sense of smell.

>>6625363
I think it got slightly worse, but it was never keen.

Any rhode island guys?

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>>6624688
I dont have skype. I have this cat.

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>>6625674
And this cat

>>6625674

i used to know this guy who had a cat like that named charlie chaplin... he was this autistic guy who was obsessed with movies, he was cool but we just kinda lost touch...

>>6625684

i just have 3 birds... my dog was happier at my mom's house with my little bro's dog and hers + i gave my cat to my niece cuz they got really close... which is fine, i'm better at taking care of birds...

our roommate and his gf have 7 dogs between them though and they switch them around all the time... there's one that's cute as hell i'll have to take a pic of her, she's got 3 legs cuz someone shot her and looks kinda like a fox... she's pretty scared of people, but she'll come over to me and let me pet her and shit... my roommate said i'm the only person other than him and his gf that she'll go over to, she's generally scared of people... like she's a little afraid of my s/o unless he's giving her food

>>6625726
I like birds a lot, but i cant socialise that much to own one. I need too much alone time. It would be bad for both me and the bird.

My insurance will pay for my top surgery but I have no idea how I'm gonna pay for a hotel near the hospital and to board my dog while I recover.

>>6625779
Where do you live?

>>6625792
Southwest FL. My surgeon is in Miami. The drive is only 3 hours but I've heard that riding in a car while you've just had surgery is really uncomfortable and the surgeon might require that I stay in town until my post op appt.

>>6622693
But Anon, she identifies as female now

I can see myself having a fucking jungle of a garden and doing tarot card readings for my (adoptive) grandkids, all while obnoxiously answering questions about the brain that they never asked. I'm gonna make the best goddamn curry a white guy ever did though.

>>6625768

yeah nah they're not good if you need a lot of alone time or don't have plenty of free time... i think they're easy to deal with though cuz gypsy will just chill on my shoulder when i go out with her, and they all are pretty content to just chill and sing along with me when i play guitar and fly around and shit... like it feels like less effort than cats or dogs even though i'm spending a lot of time with them... and when i go out they have each other

i do like borrowing my roommate's dog though, the one i renamed django (he answers to it now, and my roommate's gf just officially adopted him) and taking him to the river... there's eagles and shit there gypsy would be terrified if i tried to take her... but i can't deal with all the fur and how big they are...

lol totally forgot about our fish though, we still have our betta...

>>6625966
What the fuck that's awesome. I wanna be your friend.

>>6625966

you do tarot readings? this chick i dated gave me one she wrote down when she did my chart (she wanted to do it... idk some shit about her not thinking i seemed like my sign or some shit... i've actually had a few chicks ask and then draw out my entire chart and give me some long detailed shit about it... she said something different than the other chicks but whatever... all redheads too though come to think of it... that's weird) anyway a lot of shit was going on and she never told me what any of it meant... still have it somewhere, but idk how to read it...

it's less interesting than the serial killer looking scrapbook thing i got from a different chick... which also had some astrology shit in it come to think of it

>>6626054

+ either a lot of chicks take astrology really serious or i just find the ones that do...

>>6626054
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How do you find these people brooklyn

>>6626034
Thanks! I am always down to make new friends

>>6626054
Right now I mostly just read for myself and will occasionally ask my deck after my friends and roommates. A couple friends of mine actually helped figure out my star chart too, because I never really connected with my sign either. I could direct you to the website my friends sent me, if you like. There's some shit about signs canceling each other out or whatever -- I never really got that. Tbh I find astrology kinda interesting for fun, but it's the one part of witchcraft I really can't take seriously, probably because I'm in school for neuroscience and when I work with crystals and sigils I can at least tell myself I'm benefiting from psychosomatic effects.

>>6625779
>>6625860
You lucky fucker. Who is it? Garramone?

Also if you have a friend drive with you and drive you home it would probably be fine. Three hours away is still pretty close. Granted it might be nice to stay and have a little mini-vacation since insurance is covering it. Who's your provider?

>>6626066

they find me... i'm honestly fairly shy so i just kinda end up with people in my life... and idk... like how i used to live with a guy who thought he was a prophet... but the pagan chick was actually the ex with the kids who were brother-cousins who cheated on her fiance with me and then left him... no idea what happened to her, last time i heard from her she was talking about suicide, taking a lot of uppers and telling me she loved me and would find me again no matter what... and then she called valentine's day after that a few times, her phone wasn't working and i missed her last call... disappeared after that...

awful in bed, but she was a lot of fun and well... there's a long crazy story about that relationship, but that's... well... a long crazy story


>>6626088

i've honestly never given a shit about connecting with my chart cuz i don't take that sorta thing serious (when i said as much to my ex she said back "why would when you're born be insignificant and meaningless?"), but my ex did and initially she tried to guess and got it wrong... then she did that...

fuck if i get any of it though, i've had chicks explain it in great detail and i just kinda let them cuz it makes them happy...

my ex was really into crystals and shit too, i imagine that's some sorta placebo effect type shit if anything... depending... she did some crazy ritual shit too, taught me third eye meditation... but yeah... long stories and shit... i have a lot of questions for the right person one day pretty much... but eh whatever

how long you been into that? my ex was 10 years in when i met her, and the first actual pagan i'd ever met...

>>6625684
please post more cat

>>6626143
Yeah, I'm right there with you on the astrology shit. It's like "cool, interesting perspective", but do I actually put any stock into it? Definitely not.

The most ritualistic shit I do is burn some candles and plant matter, purify a crystal with rainwater or poke at some dirt to kind of tie myself to the earth, but nothing too out there. I'm shit at meditation because I have ADHD that I've never been treated for. I really enjoy drawing sigils though. I like design, so it's a lot of fun coming up with symbols to express ideas.

I only started practicing seriously recently, but I've been occasionally dabbling in it for years; couldn't really give you an exact number, desu. Wouldn't call myself pagan though. Spirits? To some degree, absolutely! Gods? Can't do it.

>>6626146
I agree, especially good camera cat.

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>>6626146
>>6626302
not hockeybot, but here is one of my cats. His name is Leeroy.

>>6626318
Leeroy is beautiful and looks like he would feel good to pet. Please post your other cat(s).

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>>6626234

i used to be able to meditate better, haven't been able to since some shit happened that fucked all that up... but she did shit like what you're talking about and then like these other rituals... idk the one in particular that i remember her doing had like a dagger and a 7 day candle and all this other shit... past life ritual...

she prayed to greek/roman gods... cuz of some shit that happened and dreams she had and such, she used to tell me if i ever prayed to anyone it should be dionysus... said that was just "right"

found that shit kinda funny...

unrelated: my fortune cookie at this really shit chinese food place i've ended up at is empty (surprise going to the movies with our friend and his gf and one of their friends) i don't even know what movie i'm seeing...

>>6626429

+ apparently the cookies are also terrible, but idk i'm allergic to them so yeah...

>>6626441
i love the taste of those things desu

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>>6626378
Leeroy is very soft and I love him. This is my cat Lily. I'll post my third cat momentarily.

>>6626429
Dang, that really sucks about the meditation dude. Sounds like your ex was into some pretty intense stuff. One of my friends is into the whole past lives thing too. I'm still getting used to the idea of there being an afterlife, period. I know a lot of people are super into Greek/Roman gods. While I don't believe in gods as actual gods, I do tend toward Norse themes, personally.

I guess your shitty fortune cookie is telling you to make your own fortune; and ain't that just the most believable fortune of all? I hope that whatever movie you guys end up seeing, it's a good one!

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>>6626378
This is a snapchat of my cat Tango. She's 15 years old and tiny.

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>>6626572
>>6626605
More Leeroy for good measure. When you pick him up, he stretches his arms over your shoulders so it's like he's hugging you.

>>6625528
Me
Sure do love living in the worst state

>>6626095
It's Salgado. Garramone still doesn't take insurance. :(

Medicare. My mom will drive me then. I'll be all high on painkillers so I'll probably sleep the whole time.

>>6625110
I'm glad you got your bird back safe and sound!

>>6626605
Omg do you have anymore of Tango? I love her

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>>6626851
For you, anon, always. Here is a personal favourite that my sister sent to me while I was at university recently

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>>6626872
>>6626903
She's beautiful and amazing thank you

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>>6626926
You're welcome, anon!

>>6626919
She's precious. I wish I lived with cats still. I have a real soft spot for black cats, so thank you for posting Lily too.

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>>6626941
Anytime! Have some more

I have a soft spot for black cats as well. It's really cute; when Lily got spayed and her belly was shaved, the white patch on her stomach was actually in the shape of a smiley face. I'm currently living away from home, so I am deprived of cats as well. Went to a cat cafe in my city yesterday though, so I got some cuddles in.

>>6626998
Woah, are her eyes blue? I've never seen a black cat with blue eyes! My own had green eyes. That's all I've ever seen on a black cat

>>6626794
That's cool I didn't know medicare would cover top-surgery. Post picks after for us please, you can use imgur and delete it after so it isn't archived if that's your preference. I don't see a lot for salgado on transbucket for top surgery but he has some pretty awesome looking phallo results.

I'm also a floridafag I'm super glad I asked all I ever hear about is Garramone and Alexander. Have fun, I can't wait personally for actually being able to go to the beach for the first time since I was a little kid and actually being able to see the sun on my back and not having to wear a nasty t-shirt in the water.

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>>6627032
Nah, hers are green as well. I'm afraid it's just the lighting. She reminds me of Toothless from HTTYD though.

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We have pretty kitties, anon(s)

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>>6627247

Lol you need to stop collecting cats before you become a lonely old cat man

>>6627056
Black cats are my favorite though, they're so cute. I used to have one but she died years ago. Now all I have is this big ball of fluff

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>>6626686
But it's so tiny and New England.

I dunno, I only lived there briefly for fifth and sixth grade, but I remember it pretty fondly.

I now live in Texas, where everything is hot and conservative but at least the food's pretty awesome and you can find decent music not -too- far away.
>>6627323
Heck yeah black cats. I also have a super gregarious ginger.

>>6627323
also those are great feets fyi.

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>>6627323
I am so sorry about your old black cat. Your current big ball of fluff is beautiful and I want to touch the toe beans.

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We posting our cats now?

>>6627667
Your cat is so beautiful. Can you please post more?

>>6626460

these weren't the usual kind... they were in weird packaging and smelt like coconut... everyone i was with said they were weird, so i figure it's true considering...

>>6626572

yeah, i've gotten a bit better with it, but nowhere near where i was... and it's taken a long time...

she was yeah... she was really into that kinda thing, she had learned from this woman she met while she was at work... the chick walked in and told her she knew what she needed, and told her to meet her... and she did, and that was like her coven leader and shit after that...

i honestly don't know much about greek/roman gods, or norse ones... like we had conversations, but i mostly just... well honestly there'd be a point where i stopped listening to what she was saying and just think she had a cute voice or that i felt like getting laid or that i was too high and/or drunk to even... i was taking quite a few benzos at the time, and well weed and drinking and sometimes muscle relaxers to go with the drinking and vicodin sometimes... so i forgot plenty of shit as well...

the movie wasn't great...but eh it was whatever... comfortable theatre, and the way we were seated my s/o and i could comfortably hold hands and cuddle a bit... so that was fine... they reserve seats there, so we ended up sitting away from everyone cuz we bought tickets late... our friend's gf chose it... yeah it's the most believable fortune i suppose... assuming it's even possible to do that... create your own fortune i mean... otherwise it's about as good as the rest of them

>>6626810

me too, at first i wasn't worried cuz while he's never gotten out before i've had birds that did and gypsy has, and they've always come back... but he took a bit to respond... we just stayed outside gardening and whistling and shit and eventually he answered... he looked happy as fuck too, he was just chilling in a tree relaxing on one leg, closing his eyes every time there was a breeze and shit...

>>6627986
Take your time with it. If meditation causes you stress or anxiety, there's no need to push yourself. After all, it's supposed to be relaxing.

Huh. I wouldn't want to have a coven. Apparently there are covens in my city, but my other friends who are into witchy shit aren't into being in a coven either. We're just content being friends who sometimes do witchy shit and talk about it.

I've always been a bit of a mythology nerd. I guess since I was never raised religious, I was curious about all the ancient ones. It's not everyone's thing though, either in an academic sense or a belief sense.

Sucks that the movie was kinda lame. Sounds like you got to have some nice bonding time with your s/o though, so there's a bonus!

>>6627053
I'm definitely gonna post pics. I couldn't find much either but I'm sure he'll show me some pics at the consult.

I can't wait to fish and swim with my shirt off. Binders suck in this heat.

What would a "male enhancement" pill do? Would they cause any physiological changes? It doesn't sound very likely desu

I want to have a packer stp but they're so expensive. I'm a cosplayer so I've even considered making one but I'm not sure what materials to use. Doesn't have to be super realistic but the only homemade one I've heard about is the medicine spoon one and that looks so shitty. Any advice fellas?

>>6625236
Ok so instead of "you're fat and disgusting" it's telling a fat guy "no thanks, fat guys are disgusting." It's the same fucking thing.

>>6628024

oh it's not that it causes anxiety or stress... it's hard to explain really, but it's not that... i've spent the last 3 years working on it, so it's not like there's been a rush, but it's not really an emotion based thing...

hers was just that woman and that woman's daughter... it wasn't like some big thing, but she took shit really serious and they practiced together... it wasn't a big group though

my mother bought me greek and roman mytholoy books as a kid cuz my dad's mother had been obsessed with that and died around when my mom found out she was having me... it was her way of trying to make me have a sense of closeness to her or something i guess... lol but my mom did it mostly cuz she dreamt about my grandmother throughout the pregnancy telling her it'd be ok and so on... i honestly don't think she would've bothered otherwise cuz she didn't with my little bro... but anyway a handful of stories when you're a kid isn't much and all that... i was raised catholic, my mom claims to believe, but if you get her to explain her personal beliefs they have fuckall to do with the bible (asking my mother to explain the bible is usually kinda funny honestly) so with her it was more about tradition... but my father took (or takes? idk honestly... i've been too old for him to force me to go to church for a long time and we never really spoke so... no idea) it all very seriously... church every weekend, sticking my brothers and i in ccd every sunday (fucking horrible shit, extra school and mandatory church that just eats up sunday) so from that + i was put into catholic school cuz my parents thought it'd keep me out of trouble cuz i was always in trouble... and when you're 12 and suddenly being harassed constantly by other students and teachers for not believing in god and jesus you learn about it quick to defend your pov... that lasted from 7th-the beginning of 10th when i got kicked out of my hs... so i've read the bible and all that shit

>>6629076
Get some pliable rubber and cut it into shape? I've managed to get by being creative with socks and stuff like that.

>>6628024
>>6629537

and like i've read a lot of buddhist philosophy, but while i find religion interesting that was never really on my radar... and for some reason i find the idea of studying pagan religions more daunting than anything...

i actually find religion fascinating, which is one of the reasons why i was alright with my ex talking about it so much... like i said though she was the first pagan i ever actually interacted with...

eh i figured it wasn't gonna be my thing, i would've went with star trek but i don't really mind watching something i'm not into in most cases... we saw our friend though, and it's been a little while so that was cool... he's where we used to live and trapped kinda cuz his license is suspended from the dui he just got outta jail for... my s/o and i were originally just gonna have dinner together and then go to the river so we would've had bonding time either way...

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>tfw no cat
I make friends with the neighbourhood cats, the ones that will talk to me anyway. This is my favourite, I call him Clark.

>>6629837
My name isn't Clark. Please don't call me that.

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>>6629837

eh owning cats kinda sucks, cleaning up after them and having a litterbox in your house and whatnot... not really a fan, i think they're cute... but they mostly just want attention when they want food and shit and i find that sorta annoying... i prefer kittens they're more interesting, but even then...

my roommate feeds these two cats he calls maddie and amber... no pics of them, but here's gypsy squeezing herself between her playground and the window screen (we took part of an old cage and put it in the window with a bunch of toys and perches stuck to it so they can talk to wild birds and shit...)

>>6629939

+ her nails are way too long, she's going to the vet tomorrow for a check up and a nail clipping...

>>6629901
Considering what I name other cats, you got off easy.

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>>6627710
He is a lardy fat ass, but yes.
Here's one with my other cat in the bg. It flips the image n i dunno how to change it sry.

>>6627323
I want to be a lonely old cat man

>>6629978

mine does too... take a screenshot of it the right way up then post that... otherwise everything is sideways

your cat looks like the cat i had as a kid... he was cool but he was always out of it from his epilepsy meds, and got a little weird after his dog best friend died... like he had been playful and lively, and then just kinda started hiding on top of the kitchen cabinets a lot

how much does body hair matter when passing? I have fair hair thats incredibly sparse, hell, i dont even grow armpit hair. My father isnt that hairy but i feel like my amount is unnatural, even for a woman.

>>6630194
0% impact on passing
i know asian guys with less body hair than i had when i was 12. i've hooked up with plenty of twinks that shave all their body hair off religiously. not all men are hairy.

>>6630368
im not asian though, and i dont look like ive shaved. i look like a prepubescent boy whos getting his first scraggly underarm hairs. Except im 20, i have never seen a dude my age lift up his arm and have 3 strands of fine blond hair in his pits.

does anyone have experiences with the simultaneous use of Cymbalta (duloxetine) and T? just got prescribed the former today by my psychiatrist who wasnt aware of any interactions. The info sheet says to "consult your doctor if you're on other medication that may cause liver failure". Will I die?

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>>6630002
Oh yeah? He is skittish AF. Semi feral. Spends most of his time in or on the cupboards or under the sink, but when he wants attention, he's the absolute most lovable thing.
>pic related, on the cupboards

>>6630618
Idk man I'm not a medical professional, why the fuck didn't you ask your psychiatrist? I mean it will probably be okay but you're risking your health.

>>6629537
>>6629600
Ahhh I see. No worries, mate!

Pff pretty small. But still. I am in no way serious enough to actually organize/be part of a coven. I like doing tarot readings and drawing sigils on myself, but anything more is pretty sporadic.

That's kinda cool that your mom did that for you. Love her reason for it, lmao. I didn't have much to do with my father either, growing up. He had mental health shit going on and it was just a bad time. My mom had a shitty history with catholicism (her mother was hardcore and made them go constantly, so my mom just ended up hating it), so she never took me or my sister to church. I'm not even sure if we're baptized.

There are a lot of things I like about Buddhist philosophy, and even with paganism I like the idea that, if gods were to exist, they'd be flawed assholes.

Glad you got to see your friend! Hope he's doing well, all things considered!

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>>6629837
>>6630619
>>6629978
I love them all

>>6629939
I also love your bird

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This slug looks like a bun

I'm considering doing camming. Is there a demand for ftms?

>>6630829
she wasnt sure of the complications - she checked the info and it didnt forbid steroids so she went ahead and prescribed it. i'll probably ask my gender clinic too.

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>>6631455
Why would you do that

>>6631617
You slut

>>6630619

yeah... mine wasn't skittish, he'd greet me when i came home and sleep on my legs... he could be a pissy asshole sometimes though... but he also did shit like just sit and chill, but he'd clean himself immediately after being pet...

i have pics of him somewhere... we haven't completely unpacked though

>>6631007

what exactly is a sigil? draw it on yourself for what?

i'd tell you that missed out, but you didn't really... the architecture and art in catholic churches is cool, and the ritualistic aspects of shit are interesting in a morbid sorta way but eh...

lol my mom is ridiculous with that story... she tells it all the time... she takes shit like that seriously though... my parents are married and shit still, but my dad is an abusive asshole and whatnot...

yeah there's a lot of buddhist ideas i like, and eh christian/jewish/muslim god is a flawed asshole... just look at the book of job

>>6631026

she'd love you too... she loves everyone, even strangers...

I dont have my own cat but this is a cat I was living with for a while earlier in the summer. Her name is Ireland and she was very playful and affectionate.

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>>6632165
Ugh. So apparently I can't upload pictures from my phone. Whatever. Here's the picture I meant to submit.

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>>6632181
Here's another one. There was also a time when I was watching a show on netflix in my bed and she crawled up and laid down on my back, with her face right next to mine, it was AMAZING.

>catposting
I'm clearly the only one who can't stand this shit

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>>6632281
We'll aren't you the life of the party

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>>6632287
post dogs

>>6632281

eh i'm not really a fan of cats, but i like looking at pics of shit in people's lives when i talk to them... so i don't mind it... but if you've got something better then talk about it...

i've got fuckall right now personally... i've spent all day smoking weed trying to deal with tons of pain and being tired and playing guitar and with my birds pretty much...

our friend stopped by, but he's passing out on the couch... roommate's out, my s/o and i realized he reminds us of roger from american dad... like a lot really... easier to live with

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>>6632312

Pupper

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>>6632312

this is sid... lives at my mom's house, but i picked and named him years ago... he saved my s/o and i from a bear once while we were smoking in the woods, he's the only reason we noticed it circling and moving toward us...

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>>6632312
Do animu doggos count?

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>>6632312
Doge dilevered
I just found out my dad and my grandmother is planning an intervention. They think I'm roiding. Mood swings and muscle bulk, so I guess they're not wrong. Not on T yet though.

>>6632372
*are
fuck grammar

>>6632372
>>6632377

Wrestle them WWE style when they try to sit you down and talk about your problems

>>6632350
what a qt hero

>>6632372
How are you getting mood swings and muscle bulk with no T familia?

>>6632388
Already have, with my dad at least. One of the reasons why they suspect I'm roiding.

>>6632402
I lift heavy things and put them back down.

>>6632425
do female bodies put on muscle bulk? Is that even possible?

>>6632435
I do, I've always put on muscle easy. But most females have problems with it yeah.

>>6632425

Did you lay the smackdown?

>>6632467
wtf is a smackdown?

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>>6632312
This is Yoshi. Her hobbies include barking, throwing food and observing wildlife.

>>6632485

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK5O-tCFw8o

>>6632495
kek

>>6632513

This also counts as a smackdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4Qj0EeY8ac

>>6632435

they do yeah... i used to be able to build muscle easy enough (not like my s/o but eh...) when i could work out and shit... lost a bunch of muscle being sick, and can't put it back on... now my weight just kinda goes from my normal usual weight to dropping down a bit when i get sick... though i just kinda lost weight out of nowhere, makes no sense since i'm pretty sure i eat more than everyone i'm around...

>>6632687

+ normally it's only when i'm can't keep down solid food sick that i just start dropping weight... back to the doctor soon anyway, apparently i live there now every time i've been there i've had to come back in a couple of weeks...

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>>6631893
A sigil is basically a symbol created from a word or phrase, using the letters. Some people chop out the vowels. I use Anglo Saxon runes for mine, pic related. The words you use are what you want, but it's not like a wish. For example, some people may use the phrase "I am confident." I like to use single words, but that's just my preference. The ones pictured are "confidence" on top and "protection" below. Some people will write their sigils on a piece of paper and burn them, others will carve it into a piece of wood or stone. I like inking them onto my skin. Intent is important as well.

Ahh she's big on the idea of prophetic dreams and shit? Ugh, sorry about your dad. I hope you aren't living with them, for your own sake.

Yeah, he's an asshole for sure.. but he's supposed to be perfection, and perception is key.

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Loving all these dogs. Lily, Tango, and Leeroy's person here. I have a dog as well. His name is Noah. Pic related.

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I'm having a quiet breakdown rn

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All this catposting....
I guess you can say it's a gen for men with pussies

>feel generally dysphoric for being horribly weak and out of shape
>try lifting, feel acutely dysphoric for being so weak that I can only lift X lbs
>don't show visible progress even after weeks of effort, constantly want to kill self in gym
>stop lifting
>cycle continues to infinity

is there a fix for this besides starting T

>>6634698
It's normal for any guy to feel like shit if he's weak. Get back to it and follow a good program. You will get stronger if you stick to it. Another option is bodyweight exercises. You can do those at home and be less embarrassed

how the fuck do i even go about transitioning?? Like how do i get HRT, how do i start seeing a therapist? Im an ausfag if thats relevant

>>6634764
Thanks. I tried bodyweight and it did help out a lot, but I wasn't really seeing any gainz on them and gave up.

>>6634788
Yeah. I'm overweight (30% BF) so I don't want to bulk, which is admittedly my problem because how can I expect to put on muscle while I'm cutting but Christ it fucking sucks. I'm doing linear PPL right now and not consciously restricting my diet, in the past I've tried SL and carefully maintaining1200 calories (I'm 5' so that's actually a pretty reasonable number). Did lose quite a bit of weight that way to be fair but always ended up quitting.

You guys are right though, I should just really stick with it. Will have to start working after some point.

>>6635035
I'm a freedomfag so I don't know Aus specific, but generally you look up gender therapists in your area, see one, and then talk to them about writing you a letter for HRT. If they follow the WPATH standards of care they'll want to to see you for a long time before they write a letter. Once you have it you go to any endocrinologist for a T script and get a bunch of bloodwork done and start injecting it.

The alternative to that is looking for an informed consent clinic that will give you a T letter just by you walking in and really asking and signing a bunch of paperwork. You can then take that letter to a doctor for a T prescription.

In general you want the therapy if you can afford it, even if you're 100% trutrans transitioning is an extremely stressful process.

>>6630618
The thing is with liver enzymes and medications is that body chemistry and metabolic balance is different for each individual. Some people can put a lot of stress on their liver and be fine, while other people might not be. Personally, I try not to drink more than a few drinks or take medications that are known to cause liver failure in some people (such as acetaminophen)


Also-- your life is not mine so i can't tell you what's the best option for you, but i've been suicidally depressed most of my life. You're probably pretty desperate if you're taking a psych drug, but most of the commonly prescribed drugs for SPECIFICALLY depression and anxiety are not statistically effective. < http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/the-psychiatric-drug-crisis > This is not a conspiracy, I do believe that people with certain mental health conditions can benefit from medication-- such as bipolar people. There is still known foundational flaw and systematic corruption within psychiatry.

Things I have found effective (some of which are illegal): microdosing lsd (one of the most heavily studied substances on the planet desu), meditation, intense exercise, CBD extracts. For anxiety: kava, breathing exercises, listening to nature sound samples, self massage, stretching. Good luck 2 you 4 ever

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guys how do i become the tall, floppy-haired, cutie that ive always wanted to be?

>>6634698

eh at least you can lift... and you'll only get stronger... shit i have days now where a gallon of water is too much for me, and i can't even think about lifting... but you can at least improve from where you're at, and no one starts lifting and is super strong...

and you can't give up, if you actually want muscle and shit you gotta make working out a normal part of your life... not something you do for a couple of weeks or until you get the results you want and then quit... cuz that's not how shit works, so even if you don't see results when you want to see them you just keep doing it and eventually you'll be stronger and see better results... and then you know... just keep working at it to not lose those results...

it's a commitment... and even with t it's still a commitment

>>6635111

why do you keep quitting?

>>6635357

kava works for you? i use it when i'm out of drugs and alcohol and really not in the mood to be sober (sometimes i like being sober... like when i've been high or drunk to the point where that feels normal and being sober feels new, altered, and different then it can be a good time... but usually eh), but i think it's mostly weak and disappointing... even the stronger extracts... it like just takes a bit of the edge off, but not enough really...

any tips for dealing with bottom dysphoria? i can usually deal ok, but this week it's been bad and today was the first time i couldn't look down at myself in the shower without feeling nauseous...

>>6635949

i just don't think about anything... do as little thinking as possible, and it's fine... and showers are good for that actually, you can focus on the water hitting your skin and what that feels like and then it's easy to not think cuz that's just a constant... works ok for physical pain sometimes too...

there's also the smoking weed in the shower option... give you something to do just you know be careful not to wet everything... showering normally kills my high a bit if i'm high to begin with, but if i get high during then it stays... haven't done that in a long time though...

but the less you think the better you'll feel

>>6636057

gives* my bad

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watching dogs for my roommate and his gf at one of their other houses...

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>>6636965
+

>>6635666
>kava works
Yes. Kava works really well for me. People I know who have done benzos say it doesn't work for them-- but apparently benzos alter the same part of the brain in different ways. This is why it's not recommended to take benzos and kava within one month of each other. Kava isn't noticeably mind altering, but studies prove that it is significantly more effective for treating anxiety than placebo. My doctor has debated, more effective than benzos because it relieves physical stress while not clouding judgement--unlike most other psychotropic drugs. It changes your mindset and perception in a very specific yet indescribable way, it works better if you partake in exercise after you take it. It can also make colors brighter, increases visual attention, can improve memory in some people.

One person has died from long term overuse of kava-- taking more than five doses on the daily in combination with alcohol. However, kava>alcohol in terms of liver toxicity and risk, at a normal dose you should experience no negative effects, even if taken daily. Although, personally, I wouldn't unless I really had to. I take kava for panic attacks after i've exhausted all possibilities or if I have to go to work. Also, you're not supposed to take kava with any other prescribed psychiatric medication, or alcohol. Kava is also not addictive, so it an ideal alternative to cigarette addiction. Many of my friends have weaned themselves off cigarettes with kava and then weaned themselves off of kava when they can deal with it. Some of them still take kava every so often if they feel cigarette pangs.

(Source: my naturopath)

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Hi guys, I'm having a fucking crisis. I just turned 18. My family has tried to bring it up whether or not I'm trans when I was a kid, in middle school, a teen etc., and tries to act 'supportive' despite how much I refute that Idea. I always say no but now I'm not sure myself. I'm almost completely sure I AM trans in fact, but the idea is fucking terrifying and I'm scared to deal with it. I feel like I've been repressing since junior high when I had my first boyfriend, and he flipped out on me for asking how he felt if I was trans.

I've met some transguys at my uni and other places lately that are totally happy. They pass, they seem to enjoy life. It scares me because my reasons for repressing are because I assumed I could never be happy trans. But lately all I can think about is how much more comfortable I'd be with every aspect of my life if i was and it makes me horribly depressed.

Everything about this scares me and I don't want to feel like this. Even though everyone I know would be supportive, the whole idea is daunting and scary and I feel really frozen. Yet it feels like something I can't put off any longer as well. How do I fix this?

>>6637145

i've taken it a lot, not always around when i've taken benzos, it just doesn't do much for me and isn't worthwhile in my experience... i keep taking it wishing it was better but it's not

i know about it and all that, i research everything i take, i just don't find it very effective

as far as legal shit goes i can only recommend kratom...

>>6637156

you eventually get over it in your own way, at your own pace... what else?

>>6637182
Get over being trans? because that's what i want to do. i don't want to have a desire to be a guy anymore but unless I'm looking in the mirror
that's all I see myself as anymore.

>>6636965
This looks incredibly cozy. Do you get to go fishing??

>>6637182
+ or you don't... really though that's just personal shit you gotta deal with and there's no real advice other than "think about it and reflect" that you can get...

it's a daunting thing, what you feel is normal... proceed however you'd like, you'll deal with the results of your choice in the future regardless... but ultimately this is just all about you

>>6637189

yeah a transguy is gonna tell you that being trans is something you get over... that's logically sound...

i was talking about you getting over your desire to repress this... that's on you to do... and no one else can tell you how, cuz that's a personal thing...

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>>6637214
Ok yes that was a stupid assumption. I guess it's mostly just that everything that comes with being trans seems scary. like coming out and going to a therapist and transitioning and all that. Now that I'm thinking about it seriously it seems like it's going to be incredibly difficult. Thank you for your advice anyway.

>>6637214

+ nah... no fishing, i go on fishing trips but i'm vegan and my s/o is vegetarian so there's no sense in us doing that... if i was with someone who ate fish i would... we are gonna grab one of the canoes and go out in it later though, smoke in the middle of the lake... but i was just chilling with my guitar and bird out there high as fuck...

>>6637241

i get you, like i said it's daunting... but i mean... ok... if you had cancer or some other shit wrong with you, you'd deal with it and get it treated? why is this different?

and it doesn't go away... i've been in a lot of bad situations and bad circumstances... and haven't been able to get shit treated and i can honestly tell you this doesn't go away or get easier... shit i tried to hang myself once mostly over it... did the repression thing at one point hardcore cuz i could tell other people knew and i didn't want them thinking it... and that made me more miserable...

but like... the thing is sometimes you gotta make stupid mistakes to learn shit like that for yourself... and if you aren't ready then you're gonna make mistakes 'til you are...

regardless it's not the end of the world though...

burd
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1469597225823.webm

Ugh guys it looks like my insurance is going to cover some of my top surgery but it sounds like it's still going to be only like 2k less than if I was paying out of pocket : / I haven't made a consulation with the surgeon I'm thinking with yet though, it still looks like I'm going to need more money.

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My voice isnt great even though im on T. Would anyone listen to a vocaroo of my voice and help me out? What should i say?

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guess the canoe thing isn't happening, we smoked a joint and then it started pouring...

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>>6637738

+

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>>6637753

+ this house has a great ceiling in the living room... but the furniture is arranged like a crazy person decorated so it sorta just looks like something out of a survival horror game...

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>>6637759

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>cats
>not having dogs and being loved unconditionally

>>6637759
DOGE
It looks really pretty up there desu

>>6637739
Im in bby, hit me up!

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>>6637803

this one has 3 legs (they have 7 dogs), it is nice here... beautiful place... started reading a man without a country cuz it's here and a vonnegut book i've never read and i'm gonna get drunk... not a canoe but eh we're gonna be coming back here anyway

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Why are boyish girls the best thing in the world, /ftmg/? I have an unhealthy obsession with tomboys (if that's the right word to describe them.)

>>6638223
Look up chie satonaka, top waifu

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>>6638381
Chie's alright but I actually prefer Naoto.

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Why do FTMs still act like girls?

>>6638688
Because they ARE girls? Their hormones are still female.

>>6638696
Chromosomes

>>6638688

why do i still feel not drunk or high enough after half a bottle of wine and 2 joints? there's a lot of mysterious shit in the world...

>>6638770
because you don't know how to hit the joint, duh! I keep it until I blow out nothing but air.

>>6638829

nah... i've been smoking nearly every day all day for years, i know how to hit a joint... i need either a new strain or a tolerance break probably...

>>6637241
hey, at least you know trans guys in real life and your family is supportive. i'm in pretty much the same place as you, though i've gotten a lot more sure of the fact that i am actually trans in the last few months. the best advice i've received is basically just take small steps at first, and don't worry about telling anyone or coming out. just do what feels comfortable, and when you start hormones, you don't have to tell anyone right away; you can start with a low dose and even if you decide to stop it's not a big deal.

>>6637734
Go for it. Just talk about your day or whatever.

>>6637241
as a post-transition trans guy: if you have resources available to you, transitioning is really not THAT bad. it's certainly not as bad as living the rest of your life with dysphoria, that's for sure.

>>6638863
Knowing what I know about you, I'd say tolerance break, buddy

>>6638863

+ now that i think about it its been like 8 years at this point... crazy shit... i only remember the exact length of time cuz the first time i smoked was the day before my bday... so i remember it... when shit happens around a holiday or significant day... i'm better at remembering it... like i'm lucky my s/o and i got together on halloween otherwise i probably wouldn't remember it ever... took opiates, benzos, and drank for years before that...

>>6638950

probably i hate those... means i gotta drink more to balance shit out... it's probably too soon for codeine to be worthwhile too which is what i've got... i'm gonna try switching strains before i give up entirely for a bit i guess...

>>6638941
Thanks. Im nervous.

>>6639016
Whatever you gotta do, man. Just stay safe. You're probably one of the only reasons I still come on 4chan lol

>no homo

>>6639024

what's there to be nervous about?

>>6639024
It's all good. We're anonymous, remember? ;)

>>6638770
>>6638829
>>6638863

Smoke weed everyday....

I'd like to become quiet and wise, at peace. I can't stand those old fuckers that won't stop bitching.

Fit, too. Hopefully not balding.

>>6639072

i'm a lot safer about shit than i used to be... so no worries... but yeah i'm not up for spending any significant amount of time sober right now, or even like a couple of days to be honest

good to know someone appreciates my word vomit

How long have you guys been on T?
Overall are you happy with your results?
What do you like?
What don't you like?

>>6638996
You find that smoking helps with your voice?

Does for me -- I notice when there's crap in my lungs I can go deeper.

>>6639163

with singing or speaking? cuz i don't really do anything consciously while speaking or singing and i've never noticed honestly... but i also have a perpetually sore throat cuz of health issues and such too, so i imagine i wouldn't really be able to tell... but i don't listen to my voice other than when i criticize my guitar skills (cuz i sing when i play)... and well recently that time i told my friend i was pretty sure my accent wasn't that heavy on certain words... then i realized it kinda is...

but like... i'd have to consciously think about it to notice, or actively be aware while i'm speaking or singing... and that's really unlike me...

>>6625684
I normally lurk but I just want to say that is one pretty ass kitty.

>>6639248

+ i smoke so often, it'd be hard to tell anyway... and i smoke cigarettes on/off + weed and have for a long time...

>>6639158
>How long have you guys been on T?
2.5 years

>Overall are you happy with your results?
yeah

>What do you like?
about T? everything. i especially love my body hair, my facial hair, the way T bulked out my upper body, and the changes to my face.

>What don't you like?
about T? nothing. i guess being more sweaty in general is annoying.

>>6639158
5-6 months on T.
I'm pretty happy about things.
My favorite part is I'm less depressed. I don't feel coated in the same layer of wrongness. I also like the body hair which I didn't expect to like.
I can't think of anything I dislike.

>>6639158
>How long have you guys been on T?
Like 2years now.
>Overall are you happy with your results?
I'm relatively happy yes.
>What do you like?
Lost weight, gained muscle mass, upper body strength, BEARD, and body hair in general is quite nice. Also the veins and visible muscle definition.
>What don't you like?
Sweating, acne which got worse (but I'm treating it now) and I also developed more acanthosis nigricans which are blotches of darker pigment on your skin (I'm white) which I only had a little of it pre-T. That's the worst though.

>>6639158
2 ish years on t. I'm very happy with pretty much everything, I haven't experienced anything negative except my hairline went a little further back. I had pretty bad acne before and I don't think it's gotten worse, it's actually gotten better but that's because I'm in my 20's now so my hormones are more stable and t has helped me stress out less.

I started working out a few months ago and even though I'm super dyel compared to males I gained a lot of muscle and I love the way my body shape is turning out, it would be perfect if I didn't have breasts. I'm getting that fixed soon hopefully, finally.

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Looking back at old pictures and reflecting on how people treated me, I was pretty attractive when I was still living as a woman. I'm pretty far in my transition and I don't regret making the leap but I know that I will never be as attractive by masculine standards as I was by feminine standards.

I'm too short, my face is too round, and I'm having a hard time going to the gym and building muscle because I work 6 days a week on top of having an inflammatory joint disorder.

I know it's shallow, at least I pass really well but it bothers me a lot.

Especially now that I'm single. I haven't been single in a decade.

Any other FtManons deal with the fall from being cute asf to being below average? How do you cope?

>>6642030
I never really considered myself to be attractive as a woman. I mean, I knew I wasn't dog ugly but I feel more attractive now, as a man.
I'm quite a few years into passing and transition too, but I never really find myself looking back, either to memories or photos. Probably because there isn't much of either.
You probably just need a cuddle desu.

>>6632312
post more of this cute gril

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>>6642085
It's strange because when I look back at old photos, they don't feel like 'me.'

Or if I do have some connection to them, it's several times removed, like it was a video game character I played or a past life or some shit.

But I can acknowledge that aesthetically, I was appealing. Now I'm just a manlet.

Idk man, ever since my fiance split with me I've been really fucked up over this.

Looking back, he kind of treated me like I was gross too. Gave me lots of excuses about not being intimate with me, claiming it had nothing to do with me being trans.

Now he seems to be with some cis dude. IDK man.

The only dude that has really been serious about flirting with me is a NEET who I suspect has a weird Mpreg fetish.

>>6642191
Pre transition photos are the same for me too. It doesn't feel like I'm looking at a picture of myself despite how simultaneously familiar it is. It is kind of like a "past life" I suppose.
But anyway, nothing wrong with being a manlet. You can still be short and appealing, it's just in different ways now.
It sounds like you had a lot of problems in your relationship which have fucked with your self-esteem though. Your ex treating you that way is all on him too - it's not a reflection of your actual value.
>Now he seems to be with some cis dude. IDK man.
I can see how that could play into your self-esteem issues and be upsetting, it's basically what we all want to be... But again, it's not a reflection on you. And assuming your boyfriend was gay, it's likely that he'd go for a cis man - there aren't exactly a lot of gay ftms in the first place. What are the chances he'd find two in a row?
>The only dude that has really been serious about flirting with me is a NEET who I suspect has a weird Mpreg fetish.
Where did you find him? What makes you suspect?
Personally I doubt I'd consider him a viable option if these were the words I would use to describe him.

There's plenty of fish in the sea though mate. If I weren't dating someone myself I'd probably try to snap up a transman partner, heh.

>tfw no FtMs in my life
Where do I find you people so I can bro down?

>>6639158
>How long have you guys been on T?
about 8-9 years
>Overall are you happy with your results?
yes
>What do you like?
That I'm perceived as male by everyone. My beard is also finally starting to be ok but still lacking on the cheeks, maybe it'll be full enough in few years to grow a nice looking full beard.
>What don't you like?
Even though I started T when I was 18-20 it didnt do much for me physically. It didnt change my face to more masculine aside from being able to grow an ok beard or my body. I could probably have a nice masculine body now but I'm just too fucking lazy to work out so I'm just skinnyfat. But the worst thing is the fact that I started balding rapidly after few years and now I have to shave my head to completely because I've balded so badly.

>How long have you guys been on T?
3 months
>Overall are you happy with your results?
Very happy so far
>What do you like?
My deeper voice and increased body hair, muscle gains.
>What don't you like?
Increase in appetite. I'm so hungry all the time now.

>>6637156
>It scares me because my reasons for repressing are because I assumed I could never be happy trans. But lately all I can think about is how much more comfortable I'd be with every aspect of my life if i was and it makes me horribly depressed.
Went through the exact same thing man, can't really give you advice because I'm not starting T/transitioning until a month or so's time, fucking scared out of my mind though desu

Successfully self injected today for the first time-- by closing my eyes.

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>>6642137
Good taste senpai

>>6643651
Pussy

>>6643089
>But the worst thing is the fact that I started balding rapidly after few years and now I have to shave my head to completely because I've balded so badly.
This is why I'm pursuing finasteride and minoxidil with my doctor right now. My hairline is thinning after a couple of years and I want it back.

I don't know what I find more irritating, ftms picking stupid names with made up spellings, like Ayydens, or ftms who pick ridiculous "classic" names like Jasper or Tobias.

>>6643963
It must be stressful to care that much about how other people live their lives...

>>6644012
You're right, guess I should just sit around in this boring thread making reactive statements like you then.

>>6643963
>list of certified non-trender ftm names:
>John
>Peter
>Richard
>Dad Jr

>>6644037
Anything in the top 15-20 most popular boys names for your country is safe 2bh

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>>6644040
>yfw aiden, jacob, michael are all in the top 15 for boys names in the US, oliver is in the top 20

>>6644175

in the year you were born

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Does anyone ever get over voice dysphoria?
I'm pre-t and have been told i have a deep voice for a girl but it bugs the ever living shit out of me at times to the point that there are days i dont want to talk to people...

>>6644232

i'm the same way... i really hate my voice, and don't like using or hearing it... but i just try to ignore it and force myself to deal with discomfort cuz it's what i've got right now... i imagine the only way to get over it is to treat it, otherwise you're just kinda stuck with it and it isn't changing so it can't exactly get better or some shit...

>>6644244
Glad to hear im not the only one.
Treat it? How so? You mean deal with it?

>>6644262

i mean go on t... dealing with something isn't treating it, it's just living with it as best as you can...

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>>6639158
https://youtu.be/QnoH9lx2S2E

I did a video for this.

>>6643671
OH, yes. ! Tru
It's weird how i've slit my wrists from elbow to palm with no problem, but I couldn't bring myself to sticking a needle in my muscle...
The thing that tripped me out the most I guess was the thought of putting something in my body through a hole I was creating-- I just couldn't imagine it. My brain kept reading the situation like it was some kind of impossible geometry. I also thought you had to stab it hard, which made it more psychologically perverse. Happy I watched a gif of someone doing it after freaking out for 10 minutes. Will probably get over this weirdness pretty quickly. This was shot ##2

>>6644277
Right...that flew way over my head..

>>6644300
>thought you had to stab it hard, which made it more psychologically perverse.
>watched a gif of someone doing it after freaking out for 10 minutes
i thought a nurse usually shows you how to do this shit first? how did you ever get your hands on a needle without knowing such basic shit?

>>6644312
Haha. They did but ye know. I wasn't really there mentally, it was 120 outside the day of my appt and the clinic was like 70 degrees so the sudden temperature change sort of shocked my body. Also threw up shortly after, I think-- because of the temp--not the T.

I am also an idiot.

>>6644287
>those soulless eyes

I think you just need to speak less nasally? Your voice sounds pretty non trans to me.

>>6644232
I don't get it... isn't having a deep voice a good thing

I had a deepish voice for a girl pre-t and now ot's even deeper its one of the things I like the most about myself

>>6644305

it's whatever... i thought maybe i said it stupid and needed to clarify... been really sick today + i've had weed and codeine throughout the day ... the codeine wore off, but i smoked again just before + not a lot of sleep...

>>6644375

deep for a girl isn't the same as having a guy's voice... just saying, it's no different than how some transguys with small chests are more comfortable than others...

in my case it's more just that... i could be worse off i suppose... idk i wouldn't say my voice was deep, but i've heard higher...

i just would say that's one of the worst for me, so i get having a hard time with it... for me though, i just personally deal with it by forcing myself through shit that makes me uncomfortable and ignoring my feelings cuz wtf else do you do 'til you can get shit treated? well that + drugs and alcohol, but my point was just... it doesn't get any easier you just try to not let it control you 'til you're in a better position to deal with it...

i've had a lot of people tell me they like my voice, which i find sorta depressing...

>>6644346
Thanks. I seem to sound more nasally when i speak in english. I dont know how to stop that. And those are the lifeless eyes of someone who is heavily sleepy all day, every day.

>>6644705
>>6644375

+ though i also have a hard time believing anyone actually likes it... i only notice all the flaws...

idk, i suppose that could be a me issue... same way people telling me they find me attractive kinda makes me feel like they're lying to be polite or some shit... i always feel that way about compliments

>>6644287
How old are you? Your voice sounds fine and I'd never clock you based on it.

>>6623492
I had a guy call me a candyass before (like from his car window). People refusing to call me by my chosen name because "this is hard on me 2 :(". Wanted to get my chosen name on a name tag at work and have people call me a guy; never happened.

>>6644715
>I seem to sound more nasally when i speak in english.
What other languages do you speak?

>>6643727
I would too if I was starting out now, but back then the doctors in my country didnt even seem to know about that stuff... they just talked about rogaine mostly and how the treatment will be really expensive etc. Things have changed since then.

>>6645045
27. sweet.

>>6645140
just german.

>>6645654
Don't blame the gays, girl on girl action in anime is largely there for the straight male audience.

>>6644287

i wouldn't really say you have the trans voice thing going on... i think you might just be self conscious...

>>6646485
thanks brooklyn.

I think my therapist ragequit on me. He kept trying to get me to go to lgbt/trans meetups and i kept refusing. politely. I told him i hate talking to people. Anyway he said, "well you definitely are a guy with that attitude. Youre very stubborn about this. Call me when you want to take this seriously"

Its been 4 months and hes ignored my email and text. I dont want to call because i think id rather see a different therapist after that.

>>6646564
Well shit, if that's how he ends client relationships he sounds like he's got his own issues 2bh

>>6646564
>He kept trying to get me to go to lgbt/trans meetups
Do what I do and use this thread as proof of your involvement with the 'community'

>Yeah doc, I regularly communicate with other trans guys and get plenty of support and socialisation through it
>Where are they? Oh, we meet up online mostly
>Pretty great, get a global perspective, different cultures
>Oh and they are brutally honest and open
Profit

>>6646589
I told him that. He wants me to meet people in person.

>>6646564

np

that's a stupid reason to get pissy with someone, you're def better off finding someone else... though like>>6646589
said this probably counts as interaction...

oh btw... i just thought about this the other day while i was playing guitar... i downtuned to learn a few songs in the right key a while back... and i'm lazy so i haven't bothered with returning to standard tuning... but anyway find songs with downtuning and you might have an easier time with singing lower and higher notes...

>>6646607

nevermind what i said then...

anyway shit tuned half a step to a whole step down... in that range, would probably be good for you to practice singing...

off the top of my head a lot of nirvana songs use that sorta tuning... jimi hendrix did frequently as well... metal songs actually too the guitar is tuned a half step down cuz it makes the strings looser so you get more movement

but yeah find bands and songs where downtuning is used and try singing those...

>>6646622

+ penny royal tea is one : https://vid.me/no5J

vocaroo doesn't work right for me either...i haven't heard the original song in forever (i don't care for trying to learn songs that i hear often or have heard recently... and when i try to learn a song i prefer fucking around with it based on recordings of myself... then when i think i've got it close enough i'll listen to the original, not before that) or anyone even covering it... so it's all kinds of wrong i'm sure, but i've been working on trying to figure it out for a little less than a week on/off... i know there's an intro, but i've been trying to piece that together from memory and figure out the strumming, left the intro out just now cuz i'm not sober enough for that kinda co-ordination... but yeah... i realized while fucking around a while back that am and g are the verse chords for it (in that order)... then i tried to get the chorus and could only get the first 2 chords (c and d) had to look up the 3rd (ab) but eh... i also can't remember the order of the lyrics and even if i could manage to remember it i'd probably end up messing it up anyway

+ i smoked a little while ago and had wine for breakfast so... yeah... but this is an example of a song that's normally in a lower key

that's gypsy and the budgies in the background...

>>6644175
...Michael isn't a bad name is it?

>>6647449
It's fine. Don't worry.

>>6647550
Thank you

>>6644705
Its all good man I've been out of it lately and just don't catch things either.

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>>6644375
Not him but the one with the original question about the voice dysphoria.

There are times that i love how deep my voice is. But its deep for a girl. A coworker had a not so deep voice byt it was clearly male still. So i just hope to the gods that the same thing happens to me as it did with you, where ut only gets deeper with T.

What sucks is I can't go on T til i move out of my parent's house (they rent me a room for cheap). They have already shown disgust at trans people on news and media.

>>6646972
I like it.

>>6647449
Mine is thomas. Average names are good.

>>6647655
It could be your intonations making you sound female. Try practicing talking like your favorite male actors and see if it makes a differense.

>>6647707
Didn't think about that, thanks.
>>6647668
Thats what i picked for myself. Girlfriend hates it tho lol

>>6644232
yeah i actually noticed recently that i talk in a very quiet monotone voice with a ton of vocal fry
and i always thought that was my natural voice,,

but when i put emotion into my voice, i sound like a female,
so i have to chose between sounding like a girl, or sounding drugged

>>6647707
How do you talk in male intonations vs female?

>>6647829
A lot of women spin words upwards at the end while men spin them downwards (if that makes sense), but it also depends on dialects. Think of faggy voices in cis males. That's usually a female speech pattern.

Is Maxwell a name that will get me clocked? Trying to pick a name that's at least semi-common.

>>6647829
>>6647862
males don't spin it very much at all, and if they do it's downwards
they sound mostly monotone
place emphasis with volume rather than pitch changes
voice is hard, don't listen to the memes about T magically fixing your voice
t. an mtf who has done all the opposite way

>>6647908
How posh is your face/voice?
I'd have to see you to tell you if you're a Maxwell.
Also realize people will just call you Max, if you think anyone but your close friends aren't going to shorten your name you're in for a fun time.

>>6647862
So in this vid >>6644287, how are my intonations?

>>6647908

makes me think of this song:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VFwt97z_S0U

and also you'd have to really look like a maxwell + it's a little odd... but i've met people named max before... idk i wouldn't really think too much on anyone else's name desu... i'd just be like "ok whatever" and then probably forget it, you're probably overthinking it

>>6647618

well it's more that i care a bit about whether or not i'm making sense than anything... something going on or just kinda out of it?

>>6647668

thanks...

>>6647968
Monotone and you spin downwards. You don't sound like you're trans, you sound cis. Congrats.

>>6648063
>Monotone
I'm a Cissie with an expressive voice, end this meme.

>>6648112
if you're gay it doesn't count

Anyone got the mtf vs ftm on hrt comparison drawing?
A hon on years of hrt and surgery vs a handsome ftm on weeks of hrt

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>>6648540

>>6648032
Well theres always something going on. Still don't know how to tell my parents vut when i do it will be when I'm out of the house. Like i mentioned before, trans people disgust them particularly my mom..

>>6649178
Sorry about the grammar. My pc kicked the bucket so I've been using my tablet or phone.

>>6647908
Max wouldn't but Maxwell is just so over the top like stupid FtM names like Narcissa

keep it simple, stupid

>>6649178

oh didn't realize that was you sorry... yeah you need to get out of there first, is the rent really much cheaper than renting a room somewhere?

>>6649183

it's cool, i don't really care much about grammar on 4chan... not like it matters much... i only ever use my phone

>>6649186
>FtM names like Narcissa

I think your brain farted when you were being an asshole right there, buddy.

>>6649339
stop using a typo to defend shit names, Aidyn

>>6649352
Why do you insist on being a bad person? Really, haven't you considered that overall you and other people wouldn't be better off if you weren't pointlessly hateful of people?

>>6649339
>>6649365
i know this is a /lgbt/ board but this still isn't tumblr, faggot

>>6649375
Why are you dodging the question?

>>6649383
implying it's the same anon

>>6649383
>bad person

that anon asked if their name would be too obviously something they chose themselves instead of something they were born named, i just answered

again this isn't tumblr, if you're looking for a hugbox go there faggot

Although I present in a very masculine way (I pass when people glance at me, or when I don't speak) I'm read as female by everyone still. As such, people treat me as female. Although this bothers me, and I would prefer to be treated as male, on some level I'm scared I won't be able to form the same kind of casual/banter-filled relationships/acquaintances that I have now. I feel like other men only indulge me because they think I'm a girl, and that once they see me as a guy, they won't bother to talk to me at all. On some level I'm also worried that I only know how to joke like a girl would.

tl;dr I'm worried I won't be able to form normal male-male friendships post transition.

>>6649413
Perhaps a better way to put it would be that I'm worried normal male-male friendships won't be as fulfilling as my current male friendships are, because I feel like males currently only find me funny/entertaining because they think I'm a girl. I'm being paranoid as fuck about this, I think.

>>6649295
Thats ok. Yea $320 for a room with a restroom and utilities. Im in Southern cali. Other rooms in my area are 450 plus in an area where i wont get stabbed.

The difference isnt much but i was in between jobs since we had just moved. Not until 2 weeks ago i got something stable with 40 hrs. Me and my gf are now looking for places together. We found a 1 bedroom place for $550. Im just hoping they take our cat. Its super cheap in area thats ok. Cheap apartments like that are usually in high crime areas. Atleast its not as expensive as Los Angeles.

>>6649430
My male friends respect me a lot more after they realised my transition was serious.

>>6649485

but if you lived after getting stabbed it might be a cool story later on...

cats can be hard to move with, not as hard as dogs... does cali have laws the way nyc does (or used to, idk if it's changed by now or not) where if you sneak a pet in and it goes unnoticed for x amount of time you can keep it? cuz there's always that option... or the you might not get caught thing...

i had my niece's cat in an apartment that didn't allow pets for a bit... when i was living with the alcoholic chick who was kinda crazy and her bf who thought he was a prophet (couldn't understand a word he said 'til i got used to him... then sometimes i'd have to translate for people) had a rabbit there too, and they had turtles... the landlords didn't notice, so it didn't make a difference... the reason we moved was cuz the situation went to hell after we told the alcoholic we wouldn't date her if her relationship with the "prophet" didn't work out... but in the months we were there it wasn't a big deal that the pets were there... and that definitely would've continued cuz those landlords didn't actually look in the apartment ever and didn't live that close by

>>6649562
Bro I wish I were moe

>tfw ftm fetish

>>6649654
>I wish I were moe
but you can be!

>>6649817
Yeah, just buy a run-down shack and serve liquor while hating yourself.

my shoulders are only 13", am i fucked bros?

I have something to confess. I, a MtF, browse this thread because I find people going through the opposite process for the opposite reasons interesting. On a level, I find it incomprehensible because like, I can't see why you'd ever want to be a guy, but I guess that's how the whole trans thing works.

I like seeing how you guys act in contrast to say, myself or other transwomen going through the reverse process.

Does anyone know if it's possible to get an emergency refill of an American T prescription in Canada? I'm close to freaking out because I idiotically left behind my T and needles and do 50mgs (.25mL of 200mg/mL) subQ weekly and I've never missed by more than a few hours.

Any advice or knowledge? The Internet is telling me I need a co-sign but that seems to be for transferring to here instead of an emergency, and the pharmacy doesn't open for another 9 hours.

Please help ;_;

>>6649625
Lol it really would ve a cool story. I'd be showing everyone i could my scar.

>>6650069
And yea its hard to move with a pet and i dont think cali has a law like that.
Thats one crazy alcoholic man. Shit must have sucked hard.

lads whats with all the shitty bait ftm threads

>>6649861
i'll be your bf

>>6649932
I'm an ftm that browses mtf threads and I don't really know why, I guess same reason as you but opposite

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new thread boys

>>6650998
>>6650998
>>6650998

>>6650069

i imagine that'd depend on where the scar is... i think i only have one friend who was stabbed, and that wasn't like a bad neighborhood situation it was an ex gf who did it...

>>6650086

i would double check the laws, though even if there isn't one it might not be too bad... part of the reason i got gypsy was actually to have an easier time moving with a pet... people don't usually mind birds as much as cats and dogs + green cheeks are pretty quiet so the noise issue wouldn't be one (we were initially considering a sun or jenday conure and those are loud + i can't imagine budgies getting noticed so i don't count them) like even in stores and stuff... gypsy's chilled at the table in restaurants and eaten with us and only gotten a "what a cute bird" from the people working there, whereas like walking a dog is more limiting + pet bans tend to be cat and dog specific in places and you can usually talk a bird into a living situation... though i did talk a no pets allowed apartment into being cool with my s/o's pug so sometimes you can negotiate that... and cats are usually easier than dogs so you might have a shot... $550 is amazingly cheap... there's nothing like that where i am, and in brooklyn that's like... you can't even find a room for that much usually and studios are usually like 1200+ (more in the neighborhood i'm from) and one bedrooms are well over that... even in places you might get stabbed you'd probably have a hard time getting much cheaper... especially with like real estate neighborhood shit... like parts of bushwick are "east williamsburg" to jack prices up, greenwood heights is "south park slope" to do the same... though greenwood heights and bushwick aren't that bad... it's more like brownsville, east ny that you'll get murdered in...in most cases... but like i've been in the park (one i've slept in) when someone got hit with a bat then killed with a machete in the spot i almost smoked in and shit and that was a good neighborhood

>>6649924
Completely and utterly. Unless you also have a tiny head

Testosterone seems to have made my keratosis pilaris worse. Has this happened to anyone else?

Anyone else has dreams about people misgendering you (like, a close friend randomly calling you with your old name)? Makes me feel as bad as it would irl in the dreams, and I feel terrible when I wake up.
The weird thing is, they started pretty suddenly. I didn't have dreams like that too often, I started passing let's say 1,5 year ago, and then dreams reflected the reality and I wasn't misgendered.
It is true I've gotten misgendered quite a few times lately though, for whatever reason, plus I got told stuff like "I wasn't sure if you're a guy or a girl at first, but then you said something and I was like, yeah that must be a guy" by people who met me (or somebody else told me they thought I'm gay at first, but that wasn't a big deal, I guess I do look like a faget, I just explain I'm not gay and it doesn't even make me feel bad or anything). Sure makes me wonder how many people who meet me take me for a girl. It's frustrating, after so much time the only thing that makes me pass is still my voice?

>>6623848
show him your boipussy