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/mtfg/ - Male to Female general - Arrakis edition

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Fear is the mind killer.

▶ Informed consent providers:https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Forward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Clinics.pdf
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What is your favourite movie /mtfg/?
I need something to watch
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first for shitpostan
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>>6190551
God

>tfw I went to cd because I heard it would help me with trans stuff
>tfw the 420 culture turned me into a minor druggie.

I only do soft shit like lsd, mdma, weed and stuff. I haven't even touched those in awhile.

>>6190559
Daww, when I get my phone back I will text you :3

>>6190570
>tfw I don't like ciswomen so I don't have to put up with feminist bull shit.

The only cis-girl Iike happens to be autistic and related to me. She is pretty anti feminism as well.
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nth for i'm a nonpassing megahon with a lopped off penis.
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>>6190576
Thanks Moap. How are you today?
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>>6190576
i want to suck some feminine penis
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>>6190584
M E A N
G I R L S
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>>6190584
End of Evangelion
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>>6190596
has an anime ever made you cry?
I cried watching a gundam episode once and i was so ashamed i cried about crying.
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>>6190594
You can't be tru-trans if you don't love Mean Girls.
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>>6190584
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wh2b1eZFUM

>>6190596
is it just me or is this particularly a favourite among trannies
is it just because so many of us are into anime? I'm aware it's regarded as a classic franchise in those circles
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>>6190584
Dark City
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>tfw wearing the comfy outfit I bought and watching tv while having dinner
P good day
>>6190591
Don't we all
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>>6190601
Ive cried to multiple NGE scenes at different times. Toradora made me cry a few times, Wolf children made me cry.
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>>6190584
God Fellas

Gone with the wind

kill bill (if you want to see a strong womyn)

2001 a space odyssey( I flipped my shit watching it on acid)

Ben Hurr

Fantasia(also watched on acid and sober very great movie)

Lawrence of Arabia
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soagetti
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>>6190601
I cry often watching Haibane Renmei, did during A Wind Called Amnesia, and also at a few points in Princess Tutu. The theme to Macross Plus always did it to me, too, even if the show had no such effect.
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>>6190567
>Transwomen aren't men
You're delusional.
>it is a scientifically disproven falsehood.
Now this schlock I need evidence for.
>Plus women's spaces don't exist
You're a ignorant man with no real respect for the sex that makes up the other half of the population.
>>6190570
As someone who's not very politically active you'll be pleased to know I've had absolutely no influence on any currently existing legal policies and thus have had no real effect on what your poor idea of "women's liberation" is. Also for the record:
>anti-choice
Not true.
>traditional gender-role-enforcing hate groups.
Also not true, I don't believe in gender roles and believe people are free to live as "femininely" or as "masculinely"(concepts I don't believe in) as they want.
>>6190593
I believe people can identify as one sex or the other. I personally experience physical dysphoria. Gender still isn't real, it's just made up oppressive ideas.
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>>6190604
oo, i can watch this.
Cheers robin <3
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>>6190604
I think you're seeing patterns where none exist, NGE is popular on 4chan and in the anime genre in general. Its also just sort of the best anime ever made, its a masterpiece. Though I guess most of us can relate the daddy issues Asuka and Shinji have.
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>>6190603
I haven't seen it
is it good?
should I stop shitposting to watch it?
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>>6190605
ooh Red you might like >>6190604 link related
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I'm out to my parents who picked out a name we like, a month on hrt, been growing my hair out for 7 months and using more feminine mannerisms.
Despite this, I'm still birth name and he/him because siblings and it's probably too early for them psychologically.

But I was talking to Mom alone and she told me "yes ma'am" then looked at me like she had just said something offensive and apologized. Of course I smiled at her and told her it's fine.

Fucking walking on clouds.
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>>6190584
shawshank redemption
the part where brooks hangs himself speaks to me
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>>6190584
I think it's Jacob's Ladder. I don't know that I can ever bear to watch it again, but it's still lodged in my heart.
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>>6190584
Fifth Element nigga
>tfw will never multi pass
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>>6190619
Fuck off to terfgen, god, you morons already have your own thread to be autistic about trannies.
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>>6190622
fair
I'm still waiting for the much-discussed-but-little-progress Anno-directed sequel to Miyazaki's "Nausicaa Of The Valley Of The Wind" based on the way more fucked-up second half of the manga. If the famous stuff from NGE is anything to go by it's no wonder why he's been chosen for the task.
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>tfw you finally reach the end of the thread to see that a new one was made
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>tfw dont know anything, who to trust or believe
I don't know anymore, /mtfg/, I dunno.
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>>6190626
I love Brazil.
Fine taste Robin :3
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>>6190584
synechdoque new york
i came out of it thinking Kauffman might be trans, at the very least he would really get us
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>>6190635
I frequent /mtfg/ and I never plan to leave. Deal, dudebro.
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>>6190619
>You're delusional.
Nice refutation!
>Now this schlock I need evidence for.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-there-something-unique-about-the-transgender-brain/
>You're a ignorant man with no real respect for the sex that makes up the other half of the population.
>Ad hominem
At least address the substance of what I said instead of pointing fingers at me and namecalling.
I have plenty of respect for women, trans and cis, but I have no respect for harmful and inaccurate ideas, nor for those that perpetrate them.
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>>6190619
Also daily reminder that segregated restrooms only exist because 19th century liberal professionals were booty bothered about the fact that there were women entering their fields.

And gender =/= gender roles you dumb fuck.
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>>6190619
Chaser here. Shut up before I make you shut up. Fucking pedophile
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>>6190643
:D do you like Gilliam's other movies? it's so hard finding people who like surreal stuff :P
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>>6190637

>way more fucked-up second half of the manga

wait
you mean there's more manga than movie?
shiet.
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>>6190576
Shai'hulud
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>>6190612
i'm 2 except I smell like taylor swift perfume all day every day
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>>6190590
Im doing pretty good, had a lazy day. Doing the dishes now before I smoke another bowl and play some warthunder. Driving down to my parents house with my boyfriend tommorow, my birthday is on sunday and then we're driving back up on monday.

>>6190624
Probably, it's a pretty fucking amazing movie.
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>>6190628
I have been on hrt for over five years and out to my parents for over four.

They still call me my boy name a lot. I mean they use the right pronouns in public and name in public, but when it is at home or with family they slip up a lot, but never in public. I don't care though. It is part of my not giving fuck attitude about gender shit.

Quite honestly I am gender queer, well I just don't give a fuck. Yeah most of the shit I do and how I act would be considered feminine, but I am my own person and do whatever I like. Fuck gender norms yo

I still want a pussy though.

>>6190647
/mtfg/ comes in waves for me. I will take months off then come back for a few days and after I had my fill I leave.

>>6190648
Don't fight with trolls, it means they win.
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>>6190647
Neck yourself.
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I'm 25 just starting HRT. That feel when figured out my problems too late. My entire life has been as a lie and fiction in my head.
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>>6190647
This is why I hate fat people
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>check the last thread
>I have the most posts of any trip
I'm not TRYING to spam the thread I swear
it just kind of happens :/
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>>6190663
Don't need to remind me.
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>>6190663
>Don't fight with trolls, it means they win.
This is retarded, melly.

>>6190663
>t. hon
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>>6190656
Have you drank the waters of life? Can you see the inner path?
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>replying to the TERF troll
C'mon y'all
>>6190612
>tfw 6
A-at least I can cook a good meal
>>6190663
I know I don't m8
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>>6190628
>I'm still birth name and he/him because siblings and it's probably too early for them psychologically.
I don't get this idea, too early for them psychologically to... what? Experience reality, not misgender you? Are they gonna keep calling you anon instead of anonette when you're wearing dresses and makeup?
Still, congrats on getting ma'am'd, that's a great feel ^-^
>>6190629
Lmao you're so funny/gloomy sheen~
>>6190642
You can trust and believe me! What's wrong Grace?
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just remember when you look at every cute passable trans women that has ever been, none of them were trip fags. only hons trip fag. just remember when you look at every cute passable trans women that has ever been, none of them were trip fags. only hons trip fag. just remember when you look at every cute passable trans women that has ever been, none of them were trip fags. only hons trip fag. just remember when you look at every cute passable trans women that has ever been, none of them were trip fags. only hons trip fag. just remember when you look at every cute passable trans women that has ever been, none of them were trip fags. only hons trip fag. just remember when you look at every cute passable trans women that has ever been, none of them were trip fags. only hons trip fag.
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>>6190662
I started at 19 and I don't pass. Don't worry hon it will be fine, but at least your bell went off hon.

Just read this hon

https://tgchatroom.com/wiki/index.php/So_You_Want_To_Be_a_T-Girl_%28Chapter_1%29


>>6190663
well I don't pass at least but I am okay with that.
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>>6190675
>You can trust and believe me!
Who? Nicenon?
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Being a neet with no friends sucks. How am I supposed to get a drug hookup? I dont know anyone.
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>>6190601
>Gundam
WHICH ONE WHICH ONE
huge /m/ bitch here although my catalogue isn't that extensive.

I cried with every single episode of "Ore Monogatari!!" because their love was just too cute to tolerate. I want a man that I could only describe as tsugoi.
For depression tears I'm more of a manga girl. Couldn't finish Wondering Son because of the feels, Homunculus had a few body blows that I couldn't stand.

>>6190603
I'd say that this is a forced asumption but the evidence backs it up.

>>6190609
The only thing that made me cry in Toradora is how the best girl who did everything to be as good as she could be had to give up love so others didn't give up love. She behave too much like the most worthy girl for a secondary character.
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>literally naked dancing to marvin gaye
>drinking a 2 liter of rootbeer and talking to friends on fb etc
>rootbeer overflows and spills out all over my chin, on my lips, down my chest, tits, belly, gt
>mfw i really liked it

what the fuck is wrong with me tonight lmao
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>>6190642
What's going on Grace?
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>>6190680
Take some control of your life learn to buy online.
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>>6190678
when are you going to turn that gun on yourself
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TFW posted on gaygen with pic without knowing it was gaygen.

#almost being implicated in a murder case because lying snitches be hating on how gangster you are.
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>>6190678
>I don't pass
brown Kayla
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ok.
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>>6190584
I know I have shit taste but cloud atlas
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>>6190685
I want drugs now not in a couple days.
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>>6190666
Excellent. We have broken you.
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>>6190637
I really hate Anno the same way I hate Red.
He has so much potential, everything he does is, if not perfect, filled with perfect and unique decisitions. Even his live action movies are great. He just doesn't want to do his fucking job.
Similar to how Red could pass perfectly if she just decided to do it once and for all.

>>6190642
what now, grace? you seemed okay in the last thread but never mentioned what had made you sad enough to break your hiatus.
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>>6190692
ok
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>>6190665
I forgive you <3
>>6190666
>devil's trips
Are you okay Grace? Something seems really wrong, and this is ominous ;~;
>>6190679
Yes, is me v.v
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>>6190653
didn't you know? It's also very beautiful, so much that it couldn't be animated.
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Why is the creepy tw-erf wannabe still posting?
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>>6190642
Believe in me who believes in you, Gracie.
I was having a bleh day the other day and you were a fucking star in this thread shining your light on all of us and making us all feel better.

You can't accept defeat because that's not an option. Woman up and push through. When things get dark use the stars to guide you. When even the stars refuse to shine stay the course, you beautiful creature. Even if you don't understand how you're going to do what you need to do now doesn't mean you can't get it done. You just have to keep moving in the right direction until you find your path again.
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umm....
do y'all think that if I wear a sports bra and went to a boys bathroom people wouldn't mind....
ever since I've been getting gendered feminine by strangers I've been using the women's room...but now I want to fit in as a guy
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>>6190663
>>6190677

>tfw just an ugly man
all i want to do is post with my fellow shemen in dresses, why can't you just let me be happy?

>>6190692

rollin for ufufu
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Ok
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>>6190682
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>>6190703
because they gave up on transitioning and trolling the general is all they have left... spooky... ;~;
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>>6190584
oh and Oppenheimer's diptych The Act Of Killing / The Look Of Silence too, aka the two greatest documentaries ever made to date

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_cXCOBcH5c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA_ZHAs4M9k

oh and on a lighter note, Princess Mononoke
>that opening theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XOV2L-eM38


>>6190644
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this
he seems to have some very conflicted feelings about emasculation at least
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>>6190706
wow u got her
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>>6190662
You might pass, you might not. As I see it it's better if you try than if you just kill yourself or become one of those trying to push the pride of repression.
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>>6190702

I dunno, I just figured that the movie would cover the entire manga.
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>>6190692
what was I thinking dressing like that lol
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>tfw ur bell goes off
Teehee~~
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>>6190666
you got gendered the very first time you went out with make up and an andro hair cut, you really don't need to work up the depression angle to fit in.
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>>6190706
you're pretty edie
I've been watching mskeup tutorials to get as pretty as you!!!
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hey mtfg, whos the prettiest trans girl you know?
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>>6190705
your continued idiocy will never cease to amaze me. how did you manage to get this far in life? some miracle no doubt.
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>>6190700
>>6190697
>>6190683
>>6190696
It was my own friends actually lol. I think I need to go lay down and rethink a bunch of things.
>>6190704
I
dont know
I keep getting told I've changed
some people say its good
some people are telling me its bad
I dont know
like
I'm just
a shitty person I guess
I never wanted to hurt anyone
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>>6190692
REEEEE USE MORE RECENT PICTURE/NAME
yeah, I know this exactly the reaction you're looking for, still, fucking do it
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>>6190692
>tfw not on the roulette
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>>6190719
ME
DEFINITELY ME
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>>6190703
People kept responding for a bit. I think that's dying down, at least.

Strange seeing you posting again. How have you been?
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>>6190705
I go to the mens room with my tits poking out
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>>6190720
I just want to feel like a boy!
I feel scared and like I'm invading when I use the women's room....
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>>6190584
Whiplash
>>6190721
Stay strong
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>>6190688
>10-22
>Turn on self

I might have more luck using a nail gun lol

But wait

I bet you are a

>noguns


>>6190692
Litterally getting too old to know who most of these trips are

I give it about one more day before I fuck off of mtfg for another month.

>>6190690
I am a fucking hon god damn it hon.

I go around looking like a 1950s house wife and I have the dinner ready or else my no existent husband will beat me like he should.

>>6190716
HON DIDN'T YOU BELL GO OFF

TIME TO TRANSITION HON BECAUSE DON'T YOU WANT TO WEAR PANTYHOSE HON?
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>>6190726
u go to the mens room with ur beard shadow
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>>6190717
that's what people seem to want
me to just be shy and depressed and hopeless
i dont know
maybe i got ahead of myself
or too arrogant or something
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>>6190721
>listening to people who try to keep you down because they're most likely jealous of you.
You should know better Grace.
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>>6190731
>don't you want to wear pantyhose
Pulling them on over my erection is so hard ;_;
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>>6190734
but saying they're jealous makes me arrogant and means im too full of myself
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Welp, I'm guess I'm gonna stick with the whole HRT "femboy" thing for now as it doesn't pose a problem with my ideology/current situation, but just know /mtfg/, that even though you consider me a troll I'm a regular anon who you've likely had a regular ass conversation with at some point and you'll always have to deal with me.
I also trip-fag on occasion.
>>6190661
>>6190664
;^)
>>6190648
>Nice refutation!
Thanks.
>http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-there-something-unique-about-the-transgender-brain/
I don't care about some slight differences in the brain, as for the most part the it's not all that sexually dimorphic, for the most part it's a mix of traits considered more male and more female http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/11/brains-men-and-women-aren-t-really-different-study-finds
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>>6190708

pardon me miss cock

>>6190711

that's cause ufufu is my frand and frands stick together desu

>>6190718

you're already pretty bb. makeup is super fun tho.
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>>6190705
As much as I want to be, I'm really not comfortable with that, it feels like you're repressing. Not like I have any place to be comfortable or not about what you do with your own life, but... I don't want repression to make you make a serious mistake.
I know you're you and you know better than me, but it just feels wrong to give advice on how to undo something I want to progress towards, I guess.

>>6190721
>I'm just
>a shitty person I guess
This is objectively, disgustingly false. What happened with your friends that's making you like this, if you don't mind me asking, and I hope you feel better after another rest...
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>>6190731
I bet I own more guns than you do and why don't you go ahead and put a .22 round in your brain and tell me you wont be dead. Idiot.
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>>6190725
Uh oh, did I leave in a shit fit?

I'm good, tho. You?
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>>6190734
>>6190733
why did these get deleted?
am i gonna get banned now too?
>>6190741
>This is objectively, disgustingly false. What happened with your friends that's making you like this, if you don't mind me asking, and I hope you feel better after another rest...
Idk a lot has happened with them i don't wanna get into too much detail here
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>>6190721
grace you seem like a nice person to me....
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>>6190721
I always look for your name in these threads, Gracie.

Well yours and Kayla's... but Kayla's out of morbid curiosity about what she's going to say next.

Are you talking about physical changes? How could you give up on that now? You're at a discouraging point; tough it out longer. Even if you don't think things will get better hold out a little hope.
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>>6190652
I like brazil, the fisher king and 12 monkeys
I haven't seen his other movies, except for monty python and the holy grail.
John Cleese absolutely has hated Gilliam the entire time they've known each other in the way only a British man can hate one of his oldest friends, but admits Gilliam is a genius and is the main reason why Holy Grail feels rooted in the time period it's set in due to Gilliams ability to paint with a camera.
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>>6190738
Well looks like you fell for their plan. Enjoy being depressed so you don't come off being happy or positive. Wouldnt want to offend anyone.
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>>6190669
>This is retarded, melly.
but true
you're not gonna make them change their minds or anything, they don't even fully believe ehat they're saying.

>>6190692
am I supposed to roll to look like one or to date one? I don't think I could do a lot in bed...

>>6190713
Miyazaki kept working on the manga and decided to do all the things he knew he couldn't achieve in animation. It's like the watchmen of fantasy manga.
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According to the show I'm watching on the history channel, the Nazis went to Antarctica and found technologically advanced cities under the ice
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>>6190741
I'm not repressing anything!
I feel happier this way!
I promise :3
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>tfw find out I'm not actully transgender
>try on dress and makeup
>"wow I look stupid"
>burst out laughing at my face
>tfw dysphoria wasn't actually dysphoria but an overwhelming curiosity to crossdress that was underwhelming
>feel completely relived now and confident in my identity
Ahh. Free at last. So long suckers!
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>>6190756

little known fact, i used to live in those cities thousands of years ago.
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>>6190760
I'm coming with you.
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this thread would be a lot more interesting it was only 3year + transitioned girls and no baby trannies
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>>6190754
i really dont
i dont wanna hurt anyone anymore
ive done that too much lately
i might just remove everyone and hide idk
>>6190751
really?
what if you're just that shitposter that likes messing iwth me?
>>6190748
i try bu tim a stupid person too
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>>6190692
ROLLING!
Who do I fap to tonight?
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>>6190761
Lmao. That explains a lot!!
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>>6190742
I only own two guns the rest are my fathers. He has like 400 or something.

Picture related

Although I don't want to an hero and even if I did I wouldn't use a gun so regressives can't use my death to ban guns.

>>6190737
>>6190756
seems legit agp hon

But seriously what the fuck happened to the history channel?

>>6190760
pls teach me your ways
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>>6190756
>the history channel
it's like a parody of itself these days
what happened lol
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>>6190763
i havent seen this meme in a bit glad to see its alive and well
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>>6190763

so literally like...me, phien, and..............
..............
...................
who else?

>>6190768

doesn't it tho? ;-; those were the good old days
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>>6190766
I'm not that person. I'm Breana.
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>>6190739
Minor differences in a brain have a huge impact on the psyche, that's why drugs both recreational and prescription work are as intense as they are. Regardless of if you think it's significant or not, cis female brains and cis male brains have consistent differences, and trans women's brains fall into the cis female range, not the cis male range. i.e. transwomen have girl brains, not guy brains, so unless it's the ovaries and nothing else that makes a woman a woman, gender exists. It exists in the physical differences between the male-gendered brain and the female-gendered brain.
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>>6190763
i-i'm almost at 2 years ;_;
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>>6190763
S T E W I N G A N D B R E W I N G S T E W I N G A N D B R E W I N G S T E W I N G A N D B R E W I N G S T E W I N G A N D B R E W I N G S T E W I N G A N D B R E W I N G S T E W I N G A N D B R E W I N G S T E W I N G A N D B R E W I N G S T E W I N G A N D B R E W I N G S T E W I N G A N D B R E W I N G S T E W I N G A N D B R E W I N G S T E W I N G A N D B R E W I N G S T E W I N G A N D B R E W I N G S T E W I N G A N D B R E W I N G S T E W I N G A N D B R E W I N G S T E W I N G A N D B R E W I N G S T E W I N G A N D B R E W I N G S T E W I N G A N D B R E W I N G
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>>6190681
Mobile Suit Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket
A stream site was playing the episodes as like a weekly thing and i thought, yeah sure- give this anime thing a try.

There was a part where I just lost control of my face and just started sobbing. I guess i wont give it up unless you've seen it but yeah. :[ I was having a great time watching and since made an effort to watch more. I'll give those you've mentioned a try, i'm real entry level to all things japanese culture but i'm trying all sorts of things now.

Sort of working up to changing my life by doing as many things I havent done as possible.
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>>6190721
You'll be alright.

It's not that you've "changed", it's that your new social context enables and promotes the visibility of characteristics that were previously disfavored and dismissed. Similarly, through the lens of gender, people interpret phenomena differently.

You are still you, but the "you" in their minds is butting up against other conceptual elements it never used to when filtering their perceptions. You do not live to make them comfortable. They will adapt.
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>>6190775
i get to stay, yay!

>>6190763
let's make it five to see some real changes around here
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>>6190759
If you're sure... then I don't know, maybe you'd be okay in the guy's room, it's rare in my experience for guys to give a shit who's in their bathroom.
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>>6190787

if it was five it would literally be like..................
me. who tf else is there anymore?
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>>6190786
i guess that's a good point..
i dont know, i dont wanna change much from that girl people have liked so much, ive been happy that way.
>>6190777
Breana. I remember the name but I can't remember where we talked shoot.
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>>6190769
melly please shoot your big gun inside my mouth :3333
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>>6190762
Now let's go be men and never speak of this again.

>>6190769
I dunno. I'm just magic
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>>6190767
Oh shit, she has actual porn on her twitter account.
I don't even have to use my imagination.
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>>6190733
dont let mtfg keep you from being happy

dont let anyone do that to you

you're a great person, and people do change, but thats natural- anyone who complains about that doesnt like you, they like who they thought you were, so fuck them
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>>6190753
Pretty much. Gilliam is the unparalleled master of the imagination in film as far as I'm concerned. I wish he had more luck financing his movies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIM3xCzfgns
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>THIS EXCEEDING TRIFLING WITLING,
>CONSIDERING RANTING CRITICIZING CONCERNING ADOPTING FITTING WORDING >BEING EXHIBITING TRANSCENDING LEARNING,
>WAS DISPLAYING, NOTWITHSTANDING RIDICULING,
>SURPASSING BOASTING SWELLING REASONING,
>RESPECTING CORRECTING ERRING WRITING
>TOUCHING DETECTING DECEIVING ARGUING DURING DEBATING
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>>6190793
for 5+ I can think of: ufufu, elanna, eleri, lithuanian, circe, me
you know it would be a good mtfg because that's like half canadian
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>>6190720
I kek'd a little, felt fine knowing Red can deal with attacks

>>6190705
why would you show your bra in the bathroom? do you pee with your boobs?

>>6190706
>all i want to do is post with my fellow shemen in dresses, why can't you just let me be happy?
why do you have to be so mature, Edie? you make us all look bad. go and rage at baseless attacks and say wrong things or people will hate you!

>>6190710
I've only seen TAoK and I loved it. It's sort of funny that he brings up the trials for state terrorism in my country as a sad thing.

And besides the trans aspect Synechdoque is just such a perfect movie. That breakfast scene in which every frame has a later date is just magic.

>>6190733
maybe a little bit arrogant, you did spam facepics for a couple of days.
still, depressed people attack those they love as a way to attack themselves. don't change for us.

>>6190721
People have a set image of who you are that is not related to who you are. It's normal to lose and win friends through life, overthinking it will only hurt you.

>>6190724
love that pic, source?
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>>6190798
hi gemmmmmm~!
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Where do you see yourself in 3 years mtfg?

for me, have my own apartment and be into my career as a stable functional adult woman. (and finally be qt)

Are you hopeful for the future?
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>>6190759
Just use the disableds if you're not sure, Red, it's what I do!

>>6190763
you know I'm actually curious to get to know samsa now, after all I've heard about her
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it's time for one lucky trip to go to bridal camp!
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>>6190795
i hate to break it to you red, but I am not very big

nsfw

http://i.imgur.com/Vs6avF8.jpg

Everyone I have ever been with told me it was the smallest they have ever been with.
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>>6190794
Just vague indecisiveness. I posted a wall of text about not wanting to fail my parents who were so supportive of my transition.
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so apparently now you can only post itt if you've been transitioned for 5 years or more.
and since ufufu and kuroneko and everyone else from the old days is gone....
welcome to edie general. are you as excited as i am?

>>6190803

i don't think elanna is 5+ years, and circe definitely isn't. the others don't post anymore really.

>>6190804

;_; i'm sorry...
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>>6190800
for some reason i pictured eminem rapping this

>>6190807
hey
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>>6190804
I need to hide my boyboobs....
Y'all say mean things that make me frustrated tho sometimes. I try to be nice to people tho!!!
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>>6190817
elanna started 2010, circe started late 2009, lithuanian is literally in this thread, ufufu was posting earlier today, eleri is around still but not very active
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idk
it was just hard having a friend tell me it's a shame that ive changed
i guess like
im sorry?
if you dont like me anymore feel free to leave
but then im being kinda cocky and too confident or something still..
>>6190798
>>6190804
>maybe a little bit arrogant, you did spam facepics for a couple of days.
Well, people were responding positively and I was really happy about my new girlclothes and the makeup/hair stuff I had done yesterday so I wanted to show off a little bit
>still, depressed people attack those they love as a way to attack themselves. don't change for us.
please stop attacking me then it hurts and makes me depressed too ;_;
>People have a set image of who you are that is not related to who you are. It's normal to lose and win friends through life, overthinking it will only hurt you.
I guess so, it';s just not something I'm really used to, I never really had many friends before..
>>6190815
did we talk here?
>>6190809
>Where do you see yourself in 3 years mtfg?
No idea.
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>>6190814
what am I looking at here.
Is this foie gras?
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>>6190817
3 years but if you add my wartime to that then I break the cut off

Unless you have something against sacrificing for your country
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>>6190814
o-o-oh!
We can find a way to have fun someway!!!
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>>6190814
yuck
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>>6190746
I don't know. I haven't seen you here in months, though.

Glad things are fine. I'm just finishing packing for a tiny in-town move. Extra stresses keep getting added, but at core all is looking way up.
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>>6190817
elanna's 6 iirc.
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>>6190817
pretty excited senpai
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>>6190814
W-what is that? It looks like a tumour
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>>6190809
living in a comfy apartment on my own, stable job in my field as a girl, bf (lol who am I kidding), group of friends to socialize with
>>6190812
Me pls
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>>6190814
Lol
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>>6190804
it's from how I met your mother
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>>6190825

did elanna start in 2010 tho? i thought it was 2012 or later.
circe didn't start late 2009 at all, and she hasn't even been identifying as a woman for awhile.
ufufu posts a bit one or two days every handful of months. and who tf is lithuanian?
imagine if that was this thread. we'd be the slowest and most boring general on this board.

>>6190829

i love a man in uniform

>>6190835

i always thought she was like 2012 or later. i'm happy now, i love her. so it'll just be her and i mainly posting here.
i could talk to elanna all day i guess

>>6190837

L M A O
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>>6190839
that's almost the same as me. stability is a big one tho. I gotta have that
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>>6190809
Dead
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>>6190811
it ain't worth getting to know samsa, no good can come from doing that
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>>6190809
Standing on top of a table rocking out to sick tunes
with real friends
the freedom to do what i want without worrying about people thinking "what th efuck he isnt supposed to be interested in doing that"
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>>6190658
ugh, but I'm also watching nge... I meant to marathon it all afternoon, but shitposting and readign subs is hard so I'm only on ep 6
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>>6190826
We talked here. It's cute you remembered the name but not that it was a transwoman's name from mtfg. I feel strangely appreciated that my name wasn't compartmentalized under "trannies from mtfg" and instead you thought you met me in person or something.
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>>6190809
>Where do you see yourself in 3 years mtfg?
Hopefully in burgerland.

>>6190814
kek
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>>6190809

Moved into the city
Working in a recording studio, or failing that, recording local bands somehow and working at a grocery store or something
In a band that plays on weekends
Fulltime girlmode
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>>6190846
I cant believe you're replying to me I thought you hated me for some (unknown) reason
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>>6190843
I am 100% on elanna and like 80% on when circe started hrt because it was the only poster starting the same year as me I think?

I am so game for driving this general as possibly the only qualified currently active anon.
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Is the new doom game out and Any good and can I play it with a 560ti

t. Tranny who doesn't rly vidya
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>>6190798
Hi gem. How are you?

>>6190809
Buying a house with a man (or woman) I'm keen on settling down and raising a family with, working my butt off to make extra cash so at least one of us (hopefully me) can be pretty much a full-time parent for their first 7ish years.
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>>6190658
btw, if there's any episode where they show the parallel between shinji and gendo, it's probably 6
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>>6190862
Circe has been on hormones for 5 years
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>>6190849
>not watching dubs WITH subs :^)
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wait so when we say transition are we talking about fulltime or hormones????
because I've barely been on hormones for a month lol
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>>6190865
the singleplayer's supposed to be good and apparently a 560ti can probably handle it
what's your CPU though?
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>>6190859
I hate everyone.

You're not that bad though except for the emoticons.
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>>6190809
Fulltime female
Back on my career path
Leaving my parent's basement for good this time and either living alone or with a cool roommate.
Have more (read: some) sexual experience
Being even more of a frugal motherfucker
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>>6190809
Seattle, producing music or doing software stuff. It's a super-chill city, even if it wasn't conveniently also trans-friendly.
>>
how do i know if im repressing
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>>6190865

>560ti

I read this and thought of a calculator
what's wrong with me
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>>6190866
Im tired

>>6190809
Im hopeful ill have figured out what i want to do with my life that im actually capable of
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>tfw your terrible
>tfw you make people cry
>tfw you are starting to disassociate as you just get hammered to much
>tfw you need to go out and burn a little bit
>tfw you just want someone to treat you well and to see the care in their eyes
>>6190843
Yah I guess I am a man
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>>6190862

>tfw me and elanna staring at each other talking all day while anons posts here and there

i don't like this. i hope phien is 5+ years ;_;

>>6190871

i feel like she's a tad diff tho since she wasn't even identifying as a woman that entire time, her hrt dose is literally 2mg of estrogen, and she's intersex lol
i don't want only ppl who have been transitioned for 5 years to post here. that would be so fucking boring.
everyone cool who has been transitioning for that long isn't active here anymore.
like no maddie or cyba or faye or pan etc???? get rid of robin and kayla, maybe, but otherwise?? what would this general even be?
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>>6190884

Living in a place where it rains a lot sounds kinda nice.
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>>6190880
Uhhh idk I think it's a i5 5600 or something?? I can't remember
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>>6190877
transition is hormones and whatever else you need, fulltime is when you're permanently in girlmode, and drop boymode forever.
>>6190882
<3 u~
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>>6190897
phien isn't
wait until you find out about the possibility of awkward tension since i'm elanna's ex
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>>6190894
>tfw you just want someone to treat you well and to see the care in their eyes

now I'm crying. I feel you. I really do.
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>>6190634
the only right answer
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>>6190894

babe ur as much of a man as i am. you're the one talking about pre-transition when you were in uniform.
i wasn't being serious ;-;

>>6190904

WHAT THE FUCK LMAO
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>>6190899
yeah you should be good
worst case scenario you can steam-refund it and buy a bunch of shitty otome vns
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>>6190809
Hoping I can actually hone my musical abilities to the point they're worth listening too. Thinking of going to college for music theory even tho it can't make me any money. Also I'm kinda embarassed to say it but I'm hoping I'll be with my gf long term and maybe marry her some day.
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>>6190897
I can't wait to be 5 years into transition
>passing voice
>facial surgery
>vagina
I'll finally have a remotely normal life and hopefully babies
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>>6190731
>I go around looking like a 1950s house wife and I have the dinner ready or else my no existent husband will beat me like he should.
living the dream

>>6190753
>John Cleese
he hates everything about everything, his commentary tracks make it sounds as if Holly Grail were the worst movie ever

>>6190756
>>6190769
You mean
>History
no place for channel anymore, and I say no place for history either but that's the pronoun the chose.

>>6190760
see you next week

>>6190783
I really hated WitP
It's about a boy in switzerland that helps the nazis, seeing it tied to a franchise born from a man who had to live WW2 as a child made it feel terribly wrong.
I was happy that bad things happened to him.

>>6190812
Did you save that pic when I posted it or did you make it?

>>6190814
that isn't your butt, why would anyone care?

>>6190823
if you want to hide them why would you go to the bathroom in a sports bra?

>>6190826
>eople were responding positively and I was really happy about my new girlclothes and the makeup/hair stuff I had done yesterday so I wanted to show off a little bit
I didn't mean to imply you were showing off or anything, arrogant was a strong word. People can be envious of a lot of things, and seeing you take compliments and be happy hurt them, so they hurt back. Still, you got less than 1% of what Edie or Red have to deal with, so... be happy? I don't know...

>please stop attacking me then it hurts and makes me depressed too ;_;
but that's the point, if you make someone else misserable you feel less miserable. it works even better if you like them because you hurt yourself in the process.
just talking about general depression, so far I've only attacked like three anons for unrelated reassons since I came back

>>6190842
thanks, I still have most seasons to watch.

>>6190855
you're moving to the states? any particular reasson?
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>>6190885
I don't know Red, from what you've been saying the reason you're not comfortable calling yourself a girl is because you have a penis, but that's like, most of the girls here. If a surgeon offered you srs and ffs tomorrow, would you take it? Afterwards, would you still consider yourself a femboy?
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>>6190900
Some crazy fuckers go full time female without hormones even though they just look like boys in drag to everyone around them. There's still some developed countries or doctors that want a year of you living a miserable life of a full-time crossdresser for a year before they considering giving you the opportunity to buy spironolactone and their favorite shitty estrogen cream they give to all their hons.
>>
>>6190907
shh don't worry, this is going to be amazing
>>
are you guys more like traps or futas?
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>>6190912
If i got srs and ffs, I could feel comfortable being a woman.
But for now, I'm a femboy
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>>6190919
I identify as a princess
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>>6190919
I'm dfc so I'll go with trap.
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>>6190896
Are those really your shoulders? You have good genes.
In the end it's all about you. Do you think that you'll be able to be happy living as a woman? Do you think that being dead is better than living as a man? Do you really have that much to lose? I mean, you mainly work as a designer, right? You'll interact with progressive people, or at least people that want to feel like that, and your portfolio will be the same. It's not as if it will make you start from zero.

Alternativamente podés venir a argentina y hacer todo legal, pero el panorama laboral está haciendose mierda mes a mes. Probablemente cerremos el año con un millon de despidos...
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>>6190919
I think I'm more like a futa, now, but with trap-sized penis and prepubescent girl boobs.

A lot of variety to be found, here.
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Well my mom and her bf had a fight over me because of the bathroom shit on the news and the fact he has a 29 year old daughter who he would "shoot me" to protect from me seeing her in the womens bathroom.

real nice mom, way to pick winners
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>>6190914
>Some crazy fuckers go full time female without hormones
ayyyyyy I did this desu

>that want a year
pffft a year is for casuals
try two

ps I just posted this reaction for the sunnies / smug part, I'm like 99% hetero
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>>6190911
>you're moving to the states? any particular reasson?
I would wish to at least. Where I'm now is beyond depressing trans/weather/job/social life-wise so I really just want to get somewhere else. States don't seem like a bad option assuming I can find a job or somehow afford school there. Not 100% set on the country but there aren't really that many great options out there language and trans-right wise.

>>6190919
Trap probably, I'd need a more feminine body to be a futa. Not really going to trap anyone being 6' and all but still lol
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>>6190678
That seems written by a 15 year old with too much to prove to me and HIMself. I took it all with a grain of salt. Seems like bullshit from a poor writer who can't organize thoughts properly.

4/10 too edgy.
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>>6190843
I started 2010

>>6190897
*stares and blinks*
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>>6190940
Her bf is one of those? How?
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>>6190940
>america
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>>6190809
decomposing
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>>6190914
This is why selfmed is a blessing from God. Or capitalism, but God supports capitalism so it's the same thing.
>>6190919
Given only those two options, I'm not sure. We're girls with dicks that we never wanted, so I guess futas minus the desire to buttfug men.
>>6190925
If that's what you feel is right for you, then that's that. Maybe you should hold off on going to the men's room though, you're going to be a woman in the future, right? No need to go through the change over and over again, right?
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>>6190596
remembering eva to me is like having vietnam flashbacks that aren't mine
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>>6190940
she got him to spite you
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>>6190948
she met him in church last year

I want out of california so bad
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>>6190945
more like someone transitioning pre internet and pre any protection law. it's hard to buy hormones when they can legally fire you for being trans.
I like to see it as a historical piece, like the accounts of literally drinking horse piss.
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>>6190940
Don't you concealed carry anyway? Shoot her first, it'd make for great news.
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>>6190964
>literally drinking horse piss
that's pretty metal desu
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>>6190956
seconding
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>>6190961
Where in Cali are you? Cause i'm moving to L.A in two years, and I want to know what its like.
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>>6190584
Oldboy
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>>6190960
no, now she feels like she doesn't want to live with him but I don't want to live with her anymore because I will never grow up with her babying me
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yo
what if a doctor took like
the vagina and the egg things from a ded woman
and put it inside a mtf

wont that make it so you dont have to take estrogenic pills
but like if that mtf became a pregnant
would that child be the mtf's or the dead womans?

- DUDE'd hard
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>>6190961
I wish you a lot of distance from the pathetic throwback your mom is shagging. I can't believe he would say that shit knowing about you.
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what's something cute or funny i could watch to cheer myself up?
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>>6190971
when you gotta have your estrogen you gotta have it, am i rite?

>>6190975
what did you think of the other two Vengance movies?
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>>6190970
does Cali have stand your ground laws?
claim he was threatening you so you defended yourself
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so some of you think I look okay apparently
each of you

post one cis woman you think I look comparable to
doesn't have to be famous people
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>>6190980
Mean Girls is my go to cheer up movie. It's on netflix too
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>>6190980
Steven Universe made me smile a LOT.
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Why is looking at your own face so weird?
It's like I can't see what I look like even though its in front of me.
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>>6190980
Great film called candyman
give that a watch
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>>6190928
same
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>>6190980
If you like animu watch Ore Monogatari. It's about a horribly manly dude convinced no one will love him and a delicate moe girl who finds him incredible. I cried smiling with how pure their love was almost every episode. It's not harem and it's not a will-they-won't-they. They get a relationship quite quickly and all the conflicts stem from how much they love each other.
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>>6190979
he doesn't know about me, it was all anecdotal. They saw it on the news, he mentioned me as an example if I was trans and then mom got upset because she knows, and they fought. But then mom tried to pin it all on me and say that she can't date because "what if they find out about you?"
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>>6190986
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>>6190994
elsa is a queen
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>>6190980
I find cute stuff just makes me more dysphoric because then I'm even more hyperaware I'm a ugly steve-buscemi-meets-travolta-looking dude in his 20s with little bitch-tits trying to act cutesy and girly and shit
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>>6190971
>tfw no premarin
I want to see what it's like to literally shoot blood clots out of my legs
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>>6190999
idgi, I'm not fat?
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>>6190998
I'm so glad you're getting out of there. She clearly loves you, but she is not mature enough at all to be your parent, right now.
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>>6190982
Mr. Vengeance was interesting but really slow and overall nothing too special, but Park Chan-wook didn't have too much experience with such a tense film style so eh whatever
Lady Vengeance was pretty fantastic overall, I guess in general his films are pretty hit or miss
>>6190971
is that surprising? on OKCupid I see girls that have horses for boyfriends all the time

maybe some are kinky
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>>6190994
>tfw you're the elsa in your sisterhood cus you're the frigid bitch
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>>6190992
pls help
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>>6191002
>trying to act cutesy and girly and shit
then why don't you act like the woman the age you are?
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>>6191007
not for burger norms perhaps
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>>6190980
I like to watch nature documentaries when I'm feeling down like BBC life and stuff. Nature can be so pretty
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>>6190937
:) Quien sabe. Tal vez nos conozcamos alla.

gracias.
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>>6190992
>>6191013
because you have certain spots you focus on and you are unable to see your face like you see others.
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>>6191006
I've got some cypro to spare. If we get a good supply of ethinyl estradiol, we should have you shooting blood clots fucking everywhere.

Or let's not because I like you...
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>mfw on my way to kiss qt3.14 rn

Also Portland has a ton of hobos.
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>tfw you get delusional and think you could pass if you lost weight and got a haircut
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>>6191017
I'm from the uk dumbass

>>6191016
I try to
but also I'm just a man with a mental illness (gender dysphoria) on female hormone pills so it's not that easy to emulate
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>>6191019
I try to promote all the happyness that is lacking in my own life, so when I die at least I tried to help someone else in the way :^)
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>>6191027
>lose weight to try and thin out torso as much as possible
>face becomes even more manly and jaw more pronounced
obese andro blob mode here I come
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>>6191029
masallah, broth- sister!
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btw is it reeeeeally that weird to have gone fulltime before hrt?

I mean I knew a lot of people here went full hermit mode and hid while waiting for hormones to work but is there anyone else here who did it the other way around?
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>>6191020
I don't know what spots I even focus on because I forget my face when I leave the mirror.
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fuck this, I'm off to bed.

Don't forget about me bitches.
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>>6190999
that's a tough one...
>shoulders less than three times the head
>normal hair line
>not violent make up
I'm gonna say ugly cis. Do I win?
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>>6191037
literally who
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>>6191001
I'm a failed elsa desu

I wish I had a sister like anna

>>6191012
same
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>>6191037
forget about who?

did anyone else hear something?
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>>6191036
that's also very common in human beings
your sense of body position doesn't go exactly like your eyes would percieve it, consider people with phantom limbs.
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>>6191035
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>6191034
ayy السلام عليكم، أخي
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>>6191033
Fat on my chin/jaw makes those features look worse and they're probably my worst features on my face and being overweight is disgusting and makes my confidence worse than it already is.

Other stuff could be worse.
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>>6191024
At least I'll die doing what I loved, cramming hormones into my veins
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>>6191025
>you and me tonight
!!
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>>6191049
same desu
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>>6191035

>mfw 4-5 years pre-HRT
i've been full time for a long time and only really been on HRT the last like 14 months.
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>>6191053
>>6191025
are you both driving to meet each other in the middle of the road an kiss under the rains?
please say yes
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>>6191049
honestly sometimes I feel like my transition was so ezmode it makes even me angry :/
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>>6191027
Might not be wrong. I mean, I did.
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>reading all those replies

you are a diverse bunch of girls lol. its cool i get to associate with so many diff types of ppl. I wanna meet up and hang out with a bunch of ya now
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>>6191056
that's because you have a tiny jaw and regardless of whether you passed, you looked feminine rather than honnish
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>>6191056
Hi, Dollface. I've never seen both at the same time, but you really should talk with Edie when she comes back, you'd make great friends.
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>>6191052
Refused.

I just want to be friends and cuddle with you one day. Corpses can't even cuddle back!
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>>6191056
wow I knew you went fulltime a bit before but I didn't know by that much

>>6191069
seconded
dollface and edie seem like they were separated at birth desu
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>tfw you haven't been to a straight club in like 3 years

I'm going to be a boy tonight familia
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>>6191062
wut? I am surprised you are not taking the dollface,ufufu,rawr,angie,maddie,faye,everyother passer method of being full time and shitting on people like me.
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>>6191076
wait what
what about edie?
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>>6191025
you better visit tranny meme house sometime this week while you're down here
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>>6191065
I'll be a wealthy con-goer one day.

Maybe I'll make a KH II Tifa outfit. Her character design was so cool for that game.
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>>6191063
I hope so!
Looked more feminine at 3 months hrt when I wasn't this overweight and disgusting tbhon and if my face goes back to that or even better then I might have a chance.
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>>6191056
>>6191035
heres me 2 months before hrt
I didn't really like when people gendered me masculine 50% of the time
I tried to tell others that I was now a woman, but that was a dumb idea
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>>6190809
In 3 years I would like to be starting a master's degree, be living on my own, be in a loving long term relationship and not be so prone to depression.

I'm hopeful that I'll achieve that.

>>6191071
Alriiiight fine don't kill me.

I'm sure I'll enjoy cuddling more when I'm not a corpse
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>>6191076
what happens when boys hit on you?
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>tfw only your voice passes
>going to a hearing to get legal marker changed in a week

wish me luck mtfg, hope my judge doesn't have a stick up their ass
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>>6191066

i don't have a tiny jaw at all.

>>6191069
>>6191075

edie and dollface are two very diff people, desu....
and ya. i mean i transitioned very publically as well, but idk. i wasn't really ready for hrt until last year.

>>6191080

>what about edie?
the eternal question. lmao

>>6191086

how long ago was that now?
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>>6191085
Give it a shot yo, better than doing nothing.
>>6191097
are you two okay??
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wew i came out to my drinking friends and it was way less stressful than I though it would be. vodka is so great
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>>6191097
20 months I reackon
>>
What's it take to get hormones legally? Is it some kind of lengthy process? Is it expensive?
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>>6190898
Iktf! It sounds lovely as hell.
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>>6190978
Your body would reject them, foreign tissue. If they could be grown from your own stem cells, that'd be different, but I don't know how you could trick the body into growing ovaries that sustained themselves as ovaries without changing the genome so much that you'd have the same issue.
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>>6191101

idk really, but she just wants to go have fun. that's not a bad thing IMO and she should be allowed to do so.
i'm trying not to talk about it regardless because i don't want her to feel any worse than she already does.

>>6191103

did you spill your tranny T yet?

>>6191105

i forget that you're as young as you are. what were you like before you got on mones?
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>>6191101
I am giving it a shot, just hope it works out and I can deal with this waiting.
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>>6191047
>>6191042
>>6191031

When I die from the hon disease, you girls are going to inherit my shitposting empire.

Sleeping pill make your magic

>>6191090
http://youtu.be/V_cpAS2zugU

Literally what boys? As if!
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>>6191103
any greentext key moments to share?
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>>6191118
well i hope things go well between you two, y'all are some of my favorites here so id hate to see either hurt
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>>6191125
yeah time to go to bed and cry
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>>6191053
>>6191057
We are meeting at a bus stop at midnight and walking back to the hotel.
>>6191082
I hope so! Maybe maddie will come too.
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>>6191125
You seem cool and I like you and I'm happy some ppl make it and are OK. Idk I feel like being trans sucks and transitioning is hard no matter who you are, even if some folks have it better than others
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>>6191125
You take a dump on a bowl of potable water while children in africa and the middle east don't have anything to drink. You can feel bad about literally everything in your life, I still like you, flannel
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>>6191093
Good Luck! >~<
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>>6191133
I don't want to make people sad ;_;
now I'm sad
>>
a moment of silence for repressors who didnt learn about being trans until it was too late
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>>6191132

i appreciate that, but honestly, you never have to worry about me. i'm always okay.
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>>6191118
I was pretty feminine I suppose. My high school years I grew up to be an annoying faggy boy who liked crossdressing and looking like a girl. I'd hook up with rando guys in public highschools (had a bad experience dating in my Catholic school) which while it was a lot of affection, also led to my rape
Pic is me like 1 month before hormones
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>>6191125
pic related, flannel's transition story. :3

Ok now I go! CUL8R bitches.
>sass being literally like herpes and never going away
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>>6191118
yeah. I had kinda spilled my gender insecurities like 2 years ago to 1 of my friends but I decided to come out to all of them today. feels good to get off my chest

>>6191124
not really, I mean I tried to come out to them when we went to Canada and when they all passed out I tried to get my own hotel room at 5 in the morning because I was so uncomfortable with everything (including the fact I was sleeping on the floor)
>>
>>6191145
Who are you? Where are you going, didn't you just get here?
>>
>>6191140
some of us like having happy people around.

>>6191141
you should step up your game and move until you reach acceptance. now I just feel I have a few projects I want to finish and after I'm done leaving something behind I can kill myself without regrets.
>>
>>6191112
Depends on the country. In most, a GP can prescribe them if you manage to smooth talk them into doing it. Otherwise, you'll probably have to deal with endocrinologists and gatekeeping shrinks which can be a long and harrowing process, or even a dead end.
In any case, once you get a script, it will come cheaper than the grey market. Depending on your health insurance, it can even be free. I'll readily admit I took the first route: self-medding, convincing a GP it would be safer if they just prescribed it to me since there was no way I'd stop taking HRT, conveniently forgot to mention to them that those medications weren't covered for trans health so I get them for free as if I were a menopaused woman with hirsutism.
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>>6191143
I'm always okay sounds like I'm always not okay.

>>6191144
you are one of those who really look better after transitioning...
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>>6191134
This is adorable
>>6191082
I'm super jelly now
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>>6191134
she said she would so if she doesnt ill be kinda sad :(
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>>6191151
What about informed consent, how does that work?
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>>6191152
I thought I looked pretty cute...kinda masculine features though
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>>6191145
herpes is probably better to look at though
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>>6190975
fuck yes my favorite movie too
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>>6191153
go have fun in yourclub and leave your girlfriend with us,
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>>6191079
you could pass too if you learned how to makeup and got over your fear of dressing in public

I go out with makeup on and in girl clothes and I'm the biggest hon in the thread
stop caring about what strangers think
I feel like shit a lot of the time when I go out not because I look like shit, which I do nearly all the time, but because I get envious of women who are a) actual women b) not disgusting freaks like me c) they're all incredibly beautiful, well dressed, carefree
I'm none of those, you and everyone in these threads qualify for a) and b) and some strive to attain c)
you have to work twice as hard as a cis woman to have half of what they have
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>when you have to go shopping before you meet up with ur long distance gf and the drugstore only has really terrible lube choices
>>6191155
OMG of course we are going to hang out!!
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>>6191159
Just like Grace your features really look "right" after hormones, as males you both looked kind of weird. Not ugly or something like that, but it just works better with E.
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>>6191165
to be fair dressing in public is pretty awkward, you have to get there naked in the first place and all that...
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>>6191166
Wow buying that had to be awkward
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>>6191035
Not full time, but I was already out back in high school. I could have easily gone full time at any time even before HRT since I passed anyway, but I lacked the energy to maintain a proper presentation or even to keep taking meds on a schedule because of other issues. Burnt my last match on that transition, really. Thankfully, it was enough to start the fire.
>>
>>6191166
why did you buy both??
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>>6191172
dressing female you pedantic ass
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>>6191178
One of them's obviously not lube...
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>>6191166
man maddie i know i congratulate you a lot but i really want to genuinely congratulate you this time on your new gf, i really like you both and i think you both deserve to have such a cool new gf
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>>6191144

:( i'm sorry red. do you feel like things have improved now that you've been on hrt and stuff?

>>6191146

what did they sayyyyyyy?

>>6191152

that's another way to look at it. lol
i can take care of myself just fine tho, i've been doing it for a long long time.
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>>6191174
>Burnt my last match on that transition, really. Thankfully, it was enough to start the fire.
I really like you, CFH. Do you anon most of the time?

>>6191179
it was a joke you autistic gift from god.
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>>6191169
Yeah, but Grace has only been on hormones for a few months?
I've been on them for like 16 months?
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>making people sad

What? No! Fuck it flannel. I told my stupid sob story and only Evitanon payed attention to it, and then I felt like a million bucks, because...Nobody cares!

And you're out in the world and kicking ass and if someomes being whiny about it...fuck it!

Even of your transition story was "easy" it's yours. So yeah...keep on kicking ass.

>>6191143
>I'll always be alright

And you madame, are fucking awesome. Your zen is what I aspire to.

Why the fuck is my sleeping pill not working.

Ok so yeah, I'll try to go to sleep now. Please stop posting interesting stuff.
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>>6191158
Not familiar with it, really, that process doesn't exist in my country.
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>>6191182
>man maddie
Accurate
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>>6191186
And you look more femenine than her, it's not a competition or anything. I meant it more in terms of presentation.
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>>6191145
I don't pass anywhere near as well as I made it sound and I'm certainly not beautiful
I'm just lucky enough to live in a pretty liberal place
I pass to maybe 50% of people and I guess the rest are too polite to call me 'he'

I think I'm gonna stop tripping for a while
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>>6191187
>Evitanon
I'm peronist enough to smile at that
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>>6191172
I remember stripping on stage in front of a few hundred students one drunken night. Never saw that many jaws drop at once and I'm sure I made a lot of guys question their orientation. Well, I was young, and that's enough of an excuse for me.
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I went shopping
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>>6191197
you're you, flannel. some girls will be a bit jelly, you have to accept it, but at least I like you as the namelesstrip you are and I enjoy identifying your posts.
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>>6191184
>it was a joke you autistic gift from god.
well I'm not in the mood, take the piss out of someone else for a change
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>>6191203
sweet haul, any special plans for that pepper or just cooking?
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>>6191184
Nope. Actually, I never drop the trip on this board. Probably would on /int/ if I still spent time there but I almost never post outside of /lgbt/ these days.
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>>6191203
those aren't dragon dildos.

>>6191211
I know faceless anons look alike, but I'm here just to protect love and civility.
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>>6190811

this: >>6190847


lol. u dont wanna get to know that fucking insane cringey person
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>>6191199
U know I know it ;)

>>6191197
No, stahp. U cool dudette..sorely missed if you stop tripping.

Well I give up on trying to sleep. Fuck that.

>>6191166
>no condoms
Don't get your girflrien pregnants!
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>>6191203
Why do you need so many spatulas?
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summer time in the deep south is hell m8s =,= its like 90° IN THE HOUSE

I wish I could sleep in my freezer
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>>6191183
they were pretty accepting about it I think, all but one are bi or gay in some capacity, the worst part was honestly forcing myself to say it. Although one of them was like "wow that's so great, you're stunning and brave" etc, and I really don't want to like praised like that, I just wanna be normal
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>>6191153
what happens when you go out and you see a cute boy kissing a cute girl and rubbing his stubble against his face
PLOT TWIST U R THE CUTE GIRL
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>>6191218
one for each plastic spoon, duh
don't you /kosher/ at all?
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I'm bawling my eyes out like a retard right now and I have places to be in like 20 minutes
;_;

why is everyone here so nice?
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>>6191219
>deep south
39º you mean
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waiting to get started on hormones is killing me, I have my next appointment on the 17th and I have no idea how long from then it'll take

someone put me out of my fucking misery pls
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>>6191226
No I don't, unless it's kosher dill pickles.
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>>6191203
>no pokeballs

But what if a shiny cockroach crawls out from under that mess? :3
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>>6191219
thought A/C was mandatory in the south
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alright. i'm looking into some transgender resources.
under trans specific resources, does "HRT" mean that they prescribe the treatment or simply supply it?

in any case, i'm feeling really good about taking action on this. i'm an american, god damn it, i need to show some backbone
>>
>>6191228
because when you've been hurt you try not to hurt other.
or you try really hard, depending on the case.
>>
>>6191228
because we all struggle with life in the same way as each other. we know each other's pain, there's camaraderie here. even if some anons are bullies
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>>6191216
[worst trip] is only worst trip because samsa barely ever came here lol, she would blow anyone else out of the water
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>>6191234
you're not supposed to mix utensils for kosher food, I only know that and that you need a certified cow killing rabbi to kill a cow.
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>>6191187

honestly, possible rant incoming, but i've been a taoist for the last 10 years, and it's basically made me who i am now.
i don't really believe that i have the ability to change what the world has in store for me. it's not really my place to change it, either.
i only have the ability to go with the ebb and flow of it, and with time. that's what allowed me to transition so early, and what brought me into camming, and what is continuing to allow me to be successful with it. it's also what has allowed me to meet so many amazing people, and to have so many friends who care about me. it's not really zen so much as....being honest with myself, and being present in the moment (which can be very hard for me still at times.) why should i feel sorry for myself because of anything i deem bad that happens to me? i have first world problems and most, and am incredibly fortunate. occasional superficial fights, or people's opinions of me are not real problems. i thank the heavens each and every day that i'm not homeless, or dying of HIV, or dead like so many of our sisters. it could be so much worse.
>>
>>6191228
It's not usually that nice here, guess you're just really likable ;3
>>6191231
selfmed
>>6191239
I think it's prescription if it's a doctor, it's generally pharmacies that carry the actual drugs. And yes, good girl, go get what you need!
>>
>>6191239
At the very least it means they prescribe it. Everywhere with drugs can supply it given a prescription, that's not a special distinction.
>>
>>6191231
dw anon ur not in it alone. I'm waiting on my cypro and progynova to come in the mail and all I have in the mean time is shitty spiro that super fucks up my mood.
>>
>>6191228
because you're nice, hugs 4 (You)
>>
>>6191249
I don't know how to self med, I'm also poor as fuck and doing it through legal methods will allow me to skirt most of the costs coz australian healthcare
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>>6191221
If Ur the cute girl, then who was watch?

>>6191228
>having to be somewhere
Are you going to flaunt your non NEET lifestyle with us, missy?
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>>6191153
faye pls

you vastly underestimate how much id love to see you again
>>
>>6191247
do you think it might have something to do with interacting with trannies irl?
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>>6191249
from what i can gather, the entries that i'm looking @ are probably clinics
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>>6191183
I feel more confident. And more dysphoric.
>>6191194
She's really pretty tho. Who know how she'll look at 16 months
>>
>>6191241
>there's camaraderie here. even if some anons are bullies*
*as long as you are pretty or pass
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whats it like to have a bf? im kinda done with girls for a while
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>>6191264
sheen you're honestly one of my favorite people here, I wish you wouldn't self bully so much ;_:
>>
>>6191256
Does Australia have informed consent, or does that country lack the concept behind it? I wouldn't be surprised if it's the latter.
>>6191262
They probs just prescribe then :3
>>6191267
I also appreciate sheen v.v
>>
>>6191259
go to sleep already jesus
>>
>>6191266
w-what about asami?
>>
>>6190612
They see me rollin'
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>>6191263
I really worry more about her patching up things with friends or at least knowing how to take and leave good and bad friends respectively.
I also worry about you and your issues identifying as male or female. I sincerely hope you find a point that works both with your general feelings and your life. Maybe also get a job, missy.
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>>6191268
also appreciate sheen
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>>6191268
What's informed consent, I am not a clever person
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>>6191261

what, me feeling fortunate?

>>6191263

why more dysphoric?

>>6191266

wait what about asami?
boyfriends are really supportive, honestly. there's good and bad things about them.
it's similar to dating women i think? but i think women have a diff way of communicating.
we're more like MEMEMEMEME, and men aren't.
>>
>>6191264
Passing and being beautiful aren't safeguards against bullying here, lots of envy and rancor going on. Just take it for what it's worth: just a good laugh.
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>tfw I just came hard while imaging myself as faye being fucked by edie.
I may spend too much time here.
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>>6191279
>Passing and being beautiful aren't safeguards against bullying here
How do you know?
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>>6191264
not particularly, it just happens that a lot of girls who don't pass are extremely resentful and nothing you say to them seems to reach them. after a certain point it becomes even painful to remember they exist.
this includes girls who actually could and do pass, but are impposible to stand.

>>6191270
shhh, don't pour salt on the wound.
>>
>>6191280
pretty sure that's how we all masturbate, don't worry about it anon
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what should i do?
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>>6191270
>>6191278

didn't work out. its partially why im so done with girls rn. I wanna try dating a boy for once. but I don't want use like grindr/tindr for sluts

ik ik im too picky .-.
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>>6191278
>what, me feeling fortunate?
no, a more accepting view on life and distinguishing big from slow problems.
>>
how do I deal with being a scrawny wimpy guy who's actually a scrawny wimpy girl that also wants to beat up every person I see
>>
>>6191266
what do you mean by "whats it like"?
I've never had a gf but bf is great, he's very caring and lets me hug him a lot
>>
>>6191277
based on my understanding,
it's probably most like a waiver w/ mandatory education about what may happen w/ your body
>>
>>6191277
when you can just sign some paperwork and have a conversation about how you're sure you're trans and give your "informed consent" and get hrt within one or two visits instead of having to wait months/years

>>6190612
also roll

>>6191280
ahahahahahahaha
>>
>>6191278
Women aren't necessarily as self-centered as MEMEME, but definitely personal, not just MEs but WEs and YOUs too. Guys are more into a neutral, third person style of communication and I really can't get into it.
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>>6191285
Order a pizza
>>
>>6191281
Because Angie.
>>
>>6191266
it's like a gf but with a big ol willy and better taste in video-games

you have to cook though
>>
>>6191283
sry :c <3
>>
>>6191299
>you have to cook though
you say that as if that's a bad thing
>tfw wifey material
>>
>>6191266
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19BkbXMpN00
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>>6191285
Well, first of all I second >>6191297
But the best way to stop being weak is adding more experiences to your life.

>>6191289
the last part is just the T talking
the first part would be hrt and general training
>>
>spilling beans to people that aren't even physically here

WHAT THE FUCK AM I DOING ALCOHOL HAS RUINED ME
>>
>>6191297
I rly wanna order a pizza right now but I don't think I could finish it all by myself
>>
>>6191289
Kickboxing. Worked out well from some scrawny wimpy cis female friends of mine.
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>>6191292
Well, I've been to a youth psych over here and she recommended me to an LGBT friendly GP which now wrote a really nice letter (legitimately teared up reading it, it was super sweet) to a sexual health clinic trans expert person thingo which I'm seeing on the 17th.

All this happened in 3ish months, so I'm hoping I don't have to wait much longer, I'm starting to get old and I'm scared I left it too late ;-;
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>>6191310
wait, your drinking buddies were imaginary friends? that sounds extremely less brave.
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>>6191290
its kinda hard to explain really idk at all how boys are to date I repressed too much and never even allowed myself to think about them growing up :/

>>6191299
well the cooking part is fine that's my profession lol

>>6191308
lmao you bitch xD
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>>6191291
some of the changes that occur, when they do occur, are partially irreversible. so yea, you'd better be sure
>>
>>6191318
>:P
>>
>>6191311
you can save some and have assure breakfast and/or lunch. it's the best part of ordering pizza.
>>
>>6191317
no they're very much real, then I decided to say it in a group chat of other real life friends who are a college sstill
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>>6191318
>its kinda hard to explain really idk at all how boys are to date I repressed too much and never even allowed myself to think about them growing up :/
ahhh
well idk, it's easier said than done but you can learn to open up to those feelings and explore your sexuality a bit more. if you're afraid of awkwardness because of not being early in transition or anything maybe a ldr would be best?
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>>6191247
>taoist
You're shitting me..(my only tattoo)
Having now way as a way, having no limitation as the limit.

I meant zen as a state of mind, and you my dear are on the path.

>>6191269
Ur not the boss of me :p
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>>6191311
Iawt (I agree with this)
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>>6191286
I dont know of many guys that arent gay that want to hook up with someone who straight up just looks like a black dude
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>>6191318
>idk at all how boys are to date
whenever I date a girl I just want her to be genuine & easy going
so find some boy that doesn't ask you to change and'll remain caring/loyal
don't change yourself too much specifically for a boy you like since that's generally a huge turn-off and just winds up hurting you both overall

all the same you're pretty cute and seem nice so you should be aight
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>>6191280
>>6191284

l m a o

>>6191285

go to bed

>>6191286

oooh. well, i'm sorry to hear that, korra. :(
ummmmmm.... online dating helps. honestly though i prefer meeting men organically these days.

>>6191294

idk, that's just been my experience, i suppose.

>>6191330

sass first class you are the greatest of the mafia, i tell u what ;-;

>>6191288

oh! not really. when i was young i was very angry at the world, and very selfish. i was an incredibly mean, and horrible person. some might say i'm still like that.
i was reading shonen jump (an issue i had stolen from a grocer t b h) and saw the taoism symbols in the shaman king chapter, and then looked it up.
after i read the tao te ching a lot of stuff in my life just sort of clicked. i stopped fighting so hard against myself, and everything else. i just started doing the things that made me happy. it wasn't until i started transitioning, and dated/broke up with my last long-term boyfriend though that i remembered lao tzu's teachings, and started to be able to help those who were also conducive to my happiness. i didn't really interact with any trannies irl until....2013? though i will admit that seeing some of my sisters lives, and hearing their stories made me understand how much worse it could be for me. this world wasn't made for us, that's for sure.
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WHAT HAVE I DONE I DON'T WANT THIS CAITYLN JENNER TIER SHIT, I JUST WANT TO BE A GIRL I DONT WANT YOUR PRAISE OR SYMPATHY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe
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>>6191328
>last

oh fuck no. that's completely off the table. but it's not really me exploring anything i def like boys I just have 0 XP with em
>>
>>6191313
That sounds really promising! You're visiting the expert on the 17th you said? Are they a therapist or a doctor? That's just 3 days, figure out what questions you want to ask and find out more, they sound like they'd definitely know the best/fastest routes. Even if it's a brief visit, plenty to find out. That letter sounds like you're highly recommended as not-fake-trans :3
>>
>45 minutes till I get to see my qt3.14
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>>6190612
rooooooooooool
>>
>>6191213
I was out

>>6191215
Feel free to send me some

>>6191218
Because the faggots i live with don't clean, and I'm gonna make breakfast in the morning

>>6191236
I'll probs kms desu senpai
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>>6191340
i can't go to bed
there's too much on my mind
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>>6191340
>shaman king helped a life
that makes me happy
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>>6191347
>qt3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375
i love that meme. please make sure it doesn't go anywhere
>>
>>6191341
try explaining that to them when you're sobber, ideally they'll understand
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>>6191333
>>6191336
yeahhhh according to mtfg I'm not attractive at all so this might prove to be difficult.

its just like idk where to meet boys irl .-.

>>6191340
pls I'm so fed up with online or ldr I'm sticking to strictly in person sry
>>
>>6191355
Thank you for helping my OCD...2 digits do not make a π you need 6 as the minimum.
>>
i really don't get ldr, what's the point?

>>6191358
when people told you how you look it was based on how you'd look in a dress right now, i'm sure dudes will have different opinions.
>>
>>6191358
grindr. its honestly your only hope at this point in time. just pretend you're a gay boy like red.
>>
>>6191284
I masterbate to forced fem erotic lit like god intended
>>
>>6191360
>when people told you how you look it was based on how you'd look in a dress right now, i'm sure dudes will have different opinions.
this doesnt make any sense at all.
>>
>>6191360
Like actual LDR where you have a connection in person and then have to be apart, or internet LDR where you never meet the person and declare that you're dating?
>>
>>6191358
a gay bar
>>
who here thinks james marsters could had transitiones into a cute girl?
>>
>>6191359
Just write it qt180°... At least it's exact.
>>
>>6191364
I sort of get the first one, my issue is with the second one.
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>>6191366
probably
>>
>tfw i literally can't remember my last boyfriends name
we only dated like 2 months but it's weirding me out that i can't remember his name AHAHAH. DOES ANYONE HERE REMEMBER IT??

>>6191351

what are you thinking about?

>>6191353

literally lol
ty shonen jump and my single mom who couldn't afford to buy me tons of stuff that made me resort to petty theft

>>6191358

how about bars?
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>>6191360
wat? I don't even own any girl clothes besides cosplays

>>6191365
o. looks like it's be alone for a while. out here that's a 100% chance to get a disease.
>>
>>6191370
Because most of the people doing the second one have no dating experience and don't know what they're doing.
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>>6191362
Please force fem me! Make me a girl faye!
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>>6191372
i can't talk about it on here unfortunately
it's just a lot of things i'd have to talk about privately
>>
>>6191372
his name was jack
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>>6191366
Most likely.
>>
>>6191368
qt(
>>
>>6191375
what do you get from it? it's like having a not so present friend and maybe someone camming for you...

>>6191379
It's me, right? I know it's about me. You can say it to my face! I'm not afraid!
No, maybe, better no, don't say it. I couldn't take it. Please.
>>
>>6191358
if you wanna real, genuine relationship not centered on sex/physical attraction an LDR is probably your best shot unless you can be really patient
and if you're really completely against that idea, just use the time you're single to get things to a point where you're happy, that way you can have a more fulfilling relationship when the time comes.
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>>6191370
Sometimes you just happen to be like 5000 miles away from everyone. What a silly coincidence :I
It's kind of a waste of time unless you have some sort of solid plan set up to make it work though. I know some people who have met each other online with huge distance and made it work irl after the fact but it's certainly a huge challenge.
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>>6191379

o-oh...well... idk :c
i'm sorry i suppose

>>6191380

i ended up going through my facebook block list to figure it out lmao
i can't believe i'm getting to that point where i don't remember my ex's names. it's weird, famalam.
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>>6191356
ideally they leave my house before I wake up and never talk to me again
>>
>>6191390
>i can't believe i'm getting to that point where i don't remember my ex's names.

i remember and dwell on all 3 of my ex's names

kill me
>>
statistically speaking, what are the chances of health complications due to hrt?
>>
>>6191355
>>6191368

You made me do this, you made me call the π wiZards

http://youtu.be/BDMBtQjS1bQ
>>
>>6191383
Well a LDR is better than nothing. I mean I wouldn't seek one out, but if you really like someone its like to have those feeling reciprocated, even if you never end up meeting irl
>>
>>6191362
>tfw ywn force fem faye until she looks like a modern day princess
I never asked for this feel
>>
I am fuckin lit

>>6191401
iktf
>>
>>6191395
pretty low
>>
>tfw beatport charges extra for lossless
>>
>>6191395
Depends on how you're doing it I guess. Most people have different dosages and different levels of complication monitoring so it's really hard to average the numbers.

>>6191399
This is true as well. If your real life is extremely lonely and unfulfilling having someone who's always there for you online can help you to get by. Certainly a different type of relationship but sometimes things just don't work out in life how you'd wish
>>
>image limit reached

trannies, roll out
>>6176805
>>6176805
>>6176805
>>
>>6191407
no
>>
>>6191362
*waves her hands around casting a spell that forces Faye to wear a dress and makeup then kiss boys*
>>
>>6191414
>>6191414
>>6191414

real new thread
>>
>>6191363
people were telling her if she was beautiful, not handsome.
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