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More To The Fucking Point: Jocelyn wanted to not make it mtfg's business but kiwi went ahead and fucking did, and just talked shit, called Jocelyn ugly, all while acting like her pretty princess points are maxed the fuck out and she's an innocent little flower.
I was asking about the potential I had a few nights ago, and I finally got those pics that some people requested
This was my face
and body (kinda nsfw)
How long do you think it'll be until I pass?
Do you think I have the ability to actually be a qt at some point?
I wasn't able to get measurements but the pictures show it
oh by the way nice job on that landing strip fam
How am I gonna get some if I don't want to go to the store while I don't pass because I'll look like shit
This week I finally mustered up the courage to go to a youth trans meetup in sf and fucking was told at the desk it was on hiatus for a few weeks.
At least it's temporary, and there's probably other meetups too, but I walked out of there with the worst panic attack ugh
I just don't know... The anger, sadness, and self-hate isn't going to go away. Eventually, that little voice that says "maybe you can make it, just keeping holding on" will stop, and then I just don't know..
if you have to ask a crazy group of strangers to help you make a major life decision based mostly on your current looks,
you fucked in the head son
being qt is always nice, but there's a lot more work to pass as fulltime fem
and gid is a major component, otherwise why would you choose to part of one of the most hated groups in life?
Do you have a job? have you been to uni? Do you have any hobbies or interests
because personally what keeps me going is the idea of doing something I love for the rest of my life.
I've been in this situation before, and it really comes down to motivation, a drive to prove that my identity isn't based just on whats between my legs, but what I do.
Idk find something you want to do
yeah, its about the only thing that I try to use as a "life raft".i actually really pour myself into my work. It also serves as my best distraction. I'm a grad student, and work as an researcher. But the inescapable feeling that I've never be happy, or even remotely comfortable.. So I work until I'm exhausted everyday, but i cant keep running forever..
Well for me My whole aim at work right now is to save enough money to get surgery (FFS, then maybe SRS in the future) , it's what gets me through the days
There is something about your face that reads male to me right now, but very femboy male. You'll easily pass with no make up after hrt and you could probably pass now with make up.
Yeah but you grow it by putting scrambled eggs in the ground you nerd.
Also good morning! I drank like, a bottle of wine last night. whatd I miss?
Drama is dumb. I didn't get that drunk, so no hangover to speak of really. I told my gf that I wanted to marry her, but she told me that I'm too young to know what I want and that I haven't really lived enough of my life because I only went fulltime a year ago.
I mean she's totally right but idk, it was kinda upsetting to hear that. No one takes me seriously because they think I'm a stupid kid.
I get that all the time, people like to feel superior and age is an easy target.
Just wait it out...
You have massive potential, get grillpills plox
Also, kinda qt already
>Dude who gives a shit how other people interpret fiction
People who claim to "tear down gender roles" by reinforcing them are obnoxious fucks what's not to get mad about?
And it's not just them it's the army of straight men that try to force me to go along with it. Typical women with their straight/bi male drones.
>finally get to sleep in
>wake up naturally at 6am any way
Well fuck you too body.
I didn't know people do this.
I'm French. You know there's such thing as International English right? And clapistanese is just a dialect spoken by ~300 million, maybe like a third or a quarter of the people who actually use English.
>People who claim to "tear down gender roles"
Ah I see, you seem to have confused trans women with pandemisexual trans* dimensional otterkin. An easy mistake to make.
>"you have 64 messages"
>all of 'em dudes wanting to initiate contact
>some really cute ones included
>"bb I want to worship your feet"
>immediately turned on
That boy found my soft spot.
Why do so many transwomen have such a problem acknowledging that as children they weren't as disadvantaged as transmen? Even as teens transwomen had it easier especially the ones who were "straight". You can't change the fact that once upon you were a straight teenage boy basking in your privileges.
>implying it was bait
Please look what happened when they revealed the new Link for the new Zelda game. Everyone was going "OH EM GEE SO TOTALLY TRANS!"
We can't have cute male characters anymore without you twats shitting up the place.
>transmen as children are able to act masc because society doesnt hate it
>as a child i acted femme and got stabbed, beaten and repeated murder attempts
Really not seeing these priviledges tbh
What the fuck are you talking about? Ftm's were never forced to woman up, they could literally dress any way they wan't and no one gave them shit because no one ever gives girls shit about what they wear.
Mtf's like me though had it rough as fuck. The beatings, the bullying, having to literally hide myself from everyone and everything I loved or else they would have threw me to the wolves. Having to work like a slave just to be seen as manly enough not to catch a beating.
You are full of shit, being mtf is hell and its always been hell.
Your experience is not that of Caitlyn Jenners or say a transwoman I know who was your average straight white male up until a few years ago. She now goes on about how tough her childhood was when she's full of shit and her mom has called her out on it before stating she never made her do anything she didn't want or keeping her from liking things she liked.
>most trans women are millionaire olympians before they transition
Well all I know is every typical american girl is spoiled fucking rotton as a teen. They can literally do whatever they want. If they want to shave their head and work out then they are called empowered, if they dress in pink all day they are empowered, if they drink at a party under age they are empowered, they got away with all sorts of bullshit like "well son see she is allowed to do [insert everything] because girls mature faster then boys." I had to put up with that shit all day.
I was fucking ridiculed for listening to rock and having long hair back in the day
Funny enough, most of them actually look and act like me 10 years ago now...
Is there anything as hilarious as a transgirl who gets mad that her boyfriend dumped her because she came out as trans? Like what the fuck do you expect to happen? That he'll go "Baby I'll love you no matter what?" Get real.
>Is there some backstory to this?
Posts on tumblr whining how someone is "transphobic" for not staying with a trans person even if the gender they're transitioning to isn't what they're attracted to. Also posts similar to that about asexuals. People don't realize that nobody has to stay with them and it's hilarious.
>the bondage one
b-but it's more fun if they have to pee??
>the threesome one
wtf that just means you weren't doing it with the right people
>the dom/sub one
yeah okay this is just drawn by a complete loser tbh
I feel like I need to respond to this in the more current thread too
she was telling me what happened because she found it mindblowingly hot, not because she was upset
I wasn't getting off on her having a 'traumatic experience' or whatever
like I said, degenerate, not autistic
>god I want to be throat fucked so bad
Asked this before, no response.
What's the consensus on Alldaychemist's mones? I've heard sketchy things about their spiro in particular.
not pirate it I mean just link to whatever site she uses
jesus christ I was just posting about a deranged sexual fantasy that happened to come true for someone else I know, it wasn't meant to be a major thing
I only brought up the porn thing because you were bitching it wasn't real
talk about drama over nothing... and they call me autistic...
oh my god if I was making something up why wouldn't I just say "gee I wish this would happen to me" or even "lol guiz this happened to me", why would I say it happened to a friend? you're literally making a conversation out of bugger all
EVERYBODY POST VOICE
About a year ago I heard some people say they got bad batches from ADC. Combine that with India's medicine adulteration problem and yeah... don't want my T to spike.
Relevant to me cause no prescription insurance rn.
>EVERYBODY POST VOICE
Well alright then.
A lot of people whisper, do you normally do this or is it just for recordings? I wasn't able to talk to anyone until I was able to make my voice louder, and now I have a difficult time bringing it down which is something I should practice.
I can't talk loudly in a fem voice.
Just can't get it to a higher volume on my own.
That's why I use my male voice at work and pretend to be mute in public.
yeah it took me a while to get it loud but interacting with so many old people at work, and being in a loud cafe at the time I didn't have much of a choice but to learn to speak up.
You called yourself autistic and I just acknowledged it...
I was being sarcastic when I wrote the auts post responding to the lewd stuff but you can't sense sarcasm which is exactly what I find the most autistic about you, no offense I have the auts too.
You're a laff, it's fun having you here
>A guy's warm hug would be nice
tfw haven't been hugged since I was a child by anyone, let alone a big manly guy
I want to be engulfed by him and carried into a giant lump of pillows and bed sheets and just stare at the wall together
>all the shitposters come back with trips now like nothing ever happened
Sounds qt anonette. Don't despair, you'll find a qt guy to hug the shit out of you eventually.
Though I doubt you'd just stare at the wall together :p
Well, my dev friend is just recovering from a hang over.
There's a big keynote later today but it sounds like cushy feels stuff and we wanna skip it.
He wants to head back pretty soon but if we can meet up he's willing to wait a bit.
Yeah I figured, then he'd want to be leaving the whole time while I was there any way and it just wouldn't be fun... Here's to another reason that I'm depressed about not living in the city any more.
>hey anon what are these messages about you stalking trannies on the internet doing on your computer?
>i-is this really what you dropped out of school for anon..
>you said you were job hunting still
>whats this.. r9k? oh my god..
Good morning! How's mtfg doing today?
Who virgin here?
Its an assumption, I know plenty of people that did the hellish night shift thing.
Oh and as for party, every party but the conservatives are pro lgbt.
Anyone who is not Conservative is the best option for trans issues.
Given the time zone you mentioned it's a toss up which party that means. BC projections are pretty all over the map right now
That sounds like a lot of fun, I'm jealous ^^
I'm just having a lazy day, having thanksgiving dinner with my family this evening.
The niqab issue is a smokescreen put up by harper's conservatives to distract from the real issue: their terrible record with the economy. Look up party platforms to get a real idea of who you want to vote for, this niqab business is harper being openly racist to divide voters.
There's still trans issues at the federal level though.
Conservatives do seem to want to kill healthcare funding in general, and were the one party against expanding anti-discrimination to trans people.
What ever happened to that trans rights bill? It got passed and sent to the senate and I never heard about it again :/
(Oh and some conservative MPs voted for it, notably John Baird, but I've heard rumors that he's gay)
And now it's dead in the water because parliament got dissolved? (.__. )
At the very least our protections are probably there anyways due to court rulings. Ontario and BC specifically tend to have very pro trans courts whenever anyone makes human rights complaints, then they set precedents that other provinces follow.
Yeah, that varies from province to province though. In Alberta things are still pretty backwards, and I'm sure the maritimes aren't great either.
That's sad ;~; idk the conservative party in Canada is sort of complicated because it's a mishmash of the old Progressive Conservative party and the bible thumping neoconservative Reform party. It's easy to tell what slant a candidate has, Baird was definitely PC, Harper is a former Reform party member.
That's very kind of you.
IHP is so shit.
Hiya Chelsea how's it going?
Politics in Canada at the moment are really sad, I love this country but it doesn't feel like many of the candidates represent the will of the people. I'd say most Canadians are pretty accepting of other races, why is open islamophobia part of this campaign?
no i actually am not
i said some bad stuff to people a few times (called people creeps and was kinda mean to kayla when she was on one of her rampages instead of just ignoring it), even though it was justified imo people like kit have never done anything like that!!
i totally appreciate it though, im glad you think that anon!!
Thanksgiving is celebrated in maple moose land?! Dude wat lmao I never knew that! So do y'all like, drink syrup and share hockey stories together? ;3
Well those aren't huge obsticles if you're willing to put in the effort! V necks and nexklaces are your best friend since they draw the eyes away from the shoulders (therea also plenty of cute broad shouldered ciafirls too! U gotta own that looj girl!) and makeup is our cheatsheet to being pretty (hormones will soften your face and make it a bit more feminine after 6ish months too) we can pile it on till it cakes our face so don't give up!
I only use Nair to get rid of my body hair rbh fam. It really depends on how sensitive your skin is to the stuff. If you REALLY wanna know test it out on a small area there to see.
I don't think I'm passable tbh fam
>tfw about to out myself to people that I'm stealth to on Facebook
Happy national coming out day?
Honestly, you aren't passable now, but you don't have a lot of super masculine features. Generally people with round faces and softer features like you turn out OK.
I'm not sure how brave it is, I assume I'm stealth, but maybe people I've met in the past few years actually have just been very nice about it.
I doubt it's going to be anything spectacular, most of my friends list already knows given most of my friends are people I knew from high school.
well i mean of course not now
but I don't know if I'll be good after HRT
i have a pretty stocky build, I'm losing weight right now but i also have a generally pretty large frame, but that can be worked around -- i guess the big hard part is the face
it doesn't matter, though, I'll end up transitioning regardless and sooner the better. I'm 18 now so it's not TOO late but it will be soon
Let's get this out of the way.
>I wouldn't have come out at all, people are mostly shit and all sympathy is artificial so starting over in a new city would be the best option 80%
>the cowboys are playing the patriots today
>no bf to cuddle me and tell me its going to be okay as i cry in my cowboys jersey about us losing by 45 points
>start hrt tomorrow
Here's how it will go for 99% of the people who are supportive of you:
>really supportive and want to hang out doing girl things
>firends start slowly talking behind your back
>people begin to think it's weirder and weirder
>start getting invited to less and less things
>break down one night and no one's there to help you
>everyone's suddenly got someplace else to be
>left friendless and damaged
>will have trust issues for all future relationships
It's better to just cut the ties when the timing is right. That way you can pretend that it might have been different. It's also easier to rebuild an old relationship when you've been living 3 years as a girl compared to the messy transition phase of your life.
nope, i live in northeast dallas. i go to UTD..
Yeeeah forget that that's why only like ONE of my friends know I'm trans. All the others have no idea and I don't intend on telling them any time soon. I'll just be androgynous around them tbh
Greetings MTFriends, what occurs?
You might want to change that given it sounds like you just had a particularly shitty time
>really supportive and want to hang out doing girl things
>firends start slowly talking behind your back
>a handful of people start to think it's weirder and weirder
>have a falling out with those people that have issues with it
>left with a small handful of friends that will wait on the sidelines while you're in the messy shithole that first year transition is, and offer support when it's needed
>reconnect with the people who actually cared enough to stay in touch, remain friends for a long time
At least that's how it played out for me, I lost friends, but the ones that mattered stuck with me.
Engineering? I can't imagine why anyone would go to the most expensive state school in Texas if it wasn't for engineering.
nope. i am an emerging media and communications/arts & technology double major.
i chose utd because the campus is nice, its a very good school, and my apartment is near the campus.
my stepdad is very wealthy so he helps me out a bit.
no i just have had a maki folder for a long time and i sometimes post from it.
Ah cool, I guess it's a good school if you can afford it. I went to A&M and ended up getting a lmao degree but I got a decent career path out of it so it all ended up well.
Only a bad thing if you're white. You should at least save a few sperms so you can get a qt blonde haired blue eyed girl pregnant when you settle for being a transbian.
>tfw nervous that a noticeable number of people might unfriend me
>will probably get like none to a ton of likes, likely all from girls that heard about me previously from rumours
>wary about the few that might want to start shit on my FB, saying something like "are you sure you really want this?" or "no fucking way"
>step out of the shower
>get my closest shave yet
>pull some hair across my forehead to simulate bangs
>tfw i can kind of see myself making it in the future maybe
>post in passing thread a few days ago
>check it again today
>gee anon you're so attractive as a guy
>don't you know how hot you already are?
>dang what a waste
>people will never say this about me as a girl
kill me please
>my dissertation is based around a survey
>my degree relies on the general public cooperating with me
>including in rough urban areas and asshole rural areas
>during the spring months
>when I will have been self-medding for over 3 months and will very likely have breasts as well as talking like and having the body language of a spazzy sperg
for fuck's sake, I make a sincere observation on my appearance and get shit on for 'making rape jokes', and now people pull shit like this? really???
i was told that by a friend of mine
she's a very conservative catholic and bless her heart for trying her best to save my eternal soul but I don't think she understands
Ur criticisms of me are always msconceptions and assumptions? You literally are so disconnected from the world, you have no idea about me at all and you don't care to. We actually probably agree about a bunch of stuff but you can't see past the story you've made up for me.
Even people that develop fast don't have boobs at 3 months. It's just plain too little time for anything to happen, HRT can be pretty dramatic, but it's not magic.
Why are you even making that jump? I said you're being awful, and you give me something convoluted about agreeing on a bunch of stuff and me not wanting to know your story? I don't have the slightest clue who you are .__.
What is thus, transpassing? I'm not bullying anyone. I don't think a lot of people get hugboxed, but Angie is narcissistic and sensitive and her friends have her swimming in an echo chamber.
I feel like a deviant just for cooking this
hey, i can talk to you about this over skype if you'd prefer but did canada pay for your surgery? i might be moving to montreal next year and i want to daydream about having a vag
You are also moving to montreal next year?
its the middle of the afternoon
Alberta is OK, at least there's jobs, but it feels like a cultural wasteland compared to Ontario and Quebec ;~;
:O what will you send? What can I send in return from redneckmonton? We have beef and cowboys but I don't know if I can mail a cowboy.
I too refuse to believe timezones exist.
>ate a weed cookie and accidentally my fingers on a cigarette ;_;
after speaking to my Canadian anon friend she assures me that the best thing about montreal is montreal itself so I will just mail you a ticket to come vist me
OH and bring some cowboys ><
>can only score 3 points against the dallas hospital beds
Yesss, I've been there twice and I absolutely love it. You may not even have to send a ticket, I'd probably end up coming of my own accord at some point just because Montreal is awesome
I'm still working on how to bring cowboys, but I'm thinking of using a box, a stick, some string, and a Ford F-150 to trap a few.
Teach me how 2 chill? ;~;
Where are you getting food? How fucked are you?
FIRST LET ME HOPE OUT THE MOTHERFUCKIN PORSCHE---
nah okay, basically, take deep breaths
and just be kool
pretend you're a cat tbh
idk if thats chill
just tell me fam
i want some fast food rn
but i eat fast food periodically
come over and i'll take you to in-n-out
it is right now
well if you dont know then it can't be that bad! I hope everything works out for you though anna !
btw you play music right? I-I play music sometimes aswell mb we can be friends sometime ._.