/meg/ - Military Enlistment General

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MARINES

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>mon visage quand

Are there any 34xx support jobs in Marsoc?

On a scale from 1-10, with 10 being the worst, how bad is officer life in each branch?

>Filling out SF86
>Employment section
>Remember I worked at McDick's a few years ago for a couple months
>Don't remember timeframe specifics
>Just remember being fired because one manager (assistant?) liked me and the other fucking hated him and me by extension
>Was unable to get my schedule from them, other shenanigans
>No contacts whatsoever who can verify I worked there at whenever this was, (maybe 3 years ago?)

Should I just leave it off?

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>>35154840
There's strong and then there's taking a shot of whiskey when I get home because I'm realizing I'm joining the army for the same reasons as my grandfather when he was my age and I'm more then likely going to fuck my life up like he did and be as miserable as he is at the end of it all

>>35154914
>implying you had a future in the first place

>>35154886
nigger i told you last thread
just write down the name of someone who knew you while you worked there and list the business phone number

>>35154925
>implying any of us do in the end

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Redpill me on the ranger regiment

>>35154883
this is a very broad question seeing as there are a variety of different officer jobs in each branch which all have different qualities of life.

example: in just the navy the difference between a pilot's life and a nuc. officer is huge

>>35154970
>nigger I told you last time
>implying niggers remember what you told them last time

what are the jobs to allow you to complete college courses while working again?

>SWOs eat their young

WHAT DID HE MEAN BY THIS

>>35154974
Operators who don't get the recognition they deserve because their name isn't in all capitals like SEAL or MARSOC.

>>35155001
Godfather was ranger
Can confirm he hates his life just as much as any other army boy

How does one get into 160th SOAR and how challenging is it? There's very little info compared to seals and other sof.

>>35154883
As an o-2 medical officer, former e-5 68w it's pretty cush. I just did a direct commission so no rotc or ocs. We have an o-5 as the OIC of our clinic who's pretty chill and the and with the officer BAH it's pretty comfy living

>>35154996
Any of them. The real rub is having the free time to actually do it.

>>35155010
I hate my Life and im not enlisted....
Will I hate It more if I joined the army?

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How realistic of a plan is it to go corpsman/SARC for 4-8 years, then go NROTC and return as an intel officer?

>>35155123
Yes except now you'll have to wear a uniform that you fucking hate, you'll probably go and buy a mustang with a v6 in it like every other E-2. If your really "lucky" like my godfather was you'll come home to a bunch of liberal pussies telling you that you are a child killer and a genocidal maniac because they saw your dog tags and ranger t-shirt, when all you were trying to do was go grocery shopping with your 8 year old kid who looks up to you like superman. But hey that was his experience and what is looking to be like it'll be mine as well. If you go I hope yours is a lot better.

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>>35154974
>>35155001
So how exactly how much do they operate these days?

Mostly just raids and such in Syria, Afghanistan, etc? Or is there something else they're currently busy with?

>>35154840
>>35153207
I got one my first 2 years out. Didnt get one 3rd year and going into 4th year.

Do you think recruiters ever get sad at the idea that some of the people they have recruited probably won't come back alive?

>>35154868
They survived average Americans right?
Ya that is complete garbage.

>>35155514
except they will. The chances of dying even infantry is very very low.
>>35155189
thats a stars need to align type of plan dude. Its probably best you buckle down and chose 1 route and stick to it.

>>35155052
Not entry level

>>35155529
>The chances of dying even infantry is very very low.
Haven't like 50,000 people died in Iraq and Afghanistan? I know the war has been going on for 15+ years, but that's still a lot of people per year.

Well I just got fucked, job draft was today and my recruiter said 8/9 of the jobs are gone, with the only remaining one being Airborbe comms and electrical systems, 1a331.
Anyone have any experience with this job? I'm debating taking it vs. waiting another month for next draft, or just got no Navy.

NFO vs SWO vs Supply Chain Officer

pros and cons?

seems like NFO is the most exciting/dangerous, SCO is the safest/most boring, and SWO is the average middleground in most aspects

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>>35154998
NNNFHHHGHH

>>35155551
Not even close.
>U.S. Military killed 7,008
Way more wounded though. But even still thats very low especially considering we killed easily over a million sand nigs in total.
Its also crazy low when you compare that number to other wars.

>>35155551
>50,000
Not even close wtf. 4,500 in both wars.

>>35155566
Go navy you idiot. We tell you people to avoid the AF and marines for a reason.
What job are you actually looking at doing?
>>35155567
Supply and SWO are about the same in terms of safety. Tehres no reason you should die. But yes supply is insanely boring. SWO is generic catch all but its a great job desu. Very easy imo.

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Almost everyone I meet tells me not to join the Army. Why is this? What is so wrong with the Army?

>>35155680
civilians are stupid and think joining the army means youre gonna get sent to vietnam

>tfw was a retarded piece of shit and decided to major in History
>tfw it was way too late for me to change it to something useful before I realized I was a retarded piece of shit
>GPA not high enough to realistically have a chance to commission
>Want to join the Army, and have always wanted to be a medic since I was little
>Don't have the schooling to do anything in the medical field when I get out, making that MOS useless for me when I get out
>Got an 84 on the practice ASVAB, which can give me pretty much any MOS, but none of the useful ones sound enticing to me
Am I a retarded fuck for doing this, or is this at least decently common?

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>>35155680
Bro i saw saving private Ryan don't do it

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>>35154840
Is it better to go the Seal route or Rangers?

I've heard Seals don't get much action and are overrated

>>35155761
what's your gpa

>>35155789
2.9, a couple of required math courses absolutely fucked me.

>>35155680
I'm a poolie, but I assume it has to do with

>youll be doing janitorial work
>you have fasfa right now, and minmaxing private industries is better than army careers

That said if you aren't going to kick ass in college then you'd may as well join the military before getting education.

>>35155795
can you retake them at a community college and get a 4.0?

>>35155795
2.8 is navy min

>>35155761
>>Want to join the Army, and have always wanted to be a medic since I was little
so whats stoping you?

>>35155802
>can you retake them at a community college and get a 4.0?
I go to Texas A&M, and they don't count community college credits towards your GPA. They just accept the credit.

>>35155795
Isnt 2.5 the minimum to commision?

>>35155819
Nothing's stopping me from doing that, I just don't know if it's retarded to do if I won't be able to do anything medical as a civilian, and getting an MOS that can give me a better career when I get out is a smarter thing to do.

>>35155824
yeah

if he kills his OAR, gets good letters of rec, and writes a good personal statement he has a decent shot

or he could just go marines and be super fit

>>35155828
Why cant you just go back to school when yo get out using the gi bill?

>>35155824
It's the minimum to send a packet in, but it's not realistically going to get you accepted.

>>35155831
If he wants to be a medic, he should just commision to the army and do 18X and train to be a medic in q course.

>>35155836
I've thought about it, but I don't want to get a Masters in History, since the degree is already pointless, and I don't want to completely restart and get a new major.

>>35155867
>I don't want to completely restart and get a new major.
you wont have to. If you go the medical route in the mil surerly the training will transfer to an extent or at the very worst give you some credits. Or you may love it and stay in for 20.

>>35155877
>or at the very worst give you some credits
Does it work that way? And will there be additionally schooling the Army provides that I could take, outside of the GI Bill?

>>35155910
>And will there be additionally schooling the Army provides
For army realated shit sure. But you can use TA to take college classes while in.
Or to maximize your schooling go 18x and hope you get 18D. The medical pipeline is at least a year itself.

>>35155620
I had mostly intel/cyber, he booked me for the airborne comms and electrical systems, the more I look at it, it checks a lot of boxes that I wanted. TS clearance, flying 1-2 days a week, TDY and flight pay, and relaxed environment when on ground. Being TS and flight certified also makes it easier to transition into other fields if I want.

>>35155620
Wait why do you tell people to avoid AF?

>>35155680
Eveybody thinks AF is smart and easy branch (only the latter is true). And everybody thinks Marines are supersoldiers.

Army is fine, just pick a good job you'll get some skills and fulfillment from.

>>35155761
A bachelor's will let you join as an E-4 if you enlist. If you go medic you'll be stuck there anyway.

>>35155947
well if you like the job then go for it i suppose.
>>35155948
Job selection is sketchy.
Slow advancement
Small bonuses
Filled with women and beta males
Most SJW branch easily
Not as much action and adventure as the other branches

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Might enlist in the Marine Corps since the recruiter says I have a good and easy shot at getting MOS 3381.
Only reason I'm considering this is because I have nowhere to go in life at the moment so I figured this would help give me a kick out the door to get me moving at whatever comes afterwards.

Does anyone have any idea on how someone can store some stuff away before they sign on the dotted line?
I have a bunch of old family pictures, ashes in urns, and old family heirloom jewelry that I couldn't bear to throw away or sell. I don't have any living family left and no friends that can hold onto it for me, so what should I do?
Security deposit box at my bank won't work because I can't hold onto the key, storage units here can't work either because I'm not allowed to pay 48+ months in advance, and I'm kind of out of options after that.
I don't want my family who have unfortunately all passed away at my young age of 23 to be forgotten... I want my future family of my own, god willing, to be able to see the faces of the people who raised me.
Any ideas on how I should go about this?

>>35155980
Is pay dependent on both rank and MOS in the Army, or just rank?

>>35156042
you can set up auto-pay on storage units

>>35156042
You get 10 days of leave after boot camp. You only need to pay for 4 months in advance, and then go collect it and store in barracks room.

I highly doubt you couldn't find a place to take 4 months in advance.

>>35156138
Oh, and yes you can hold onto key. You put your personal belongings in a box at beginning of boot camp (such as civilian clothing), get it after you graduate.

Have the key in pocket of jeans. So you could do the bank also.

>>35156042
Thats real fucking sad m8

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>>35155189
>>35155529
So is it possible to enlist in one field/MOS area, then commission in a totally different one?

>>35156049
Your base pay is dependent on your pay grade.
You can get additional pays based off your mos and situation.
>>35156042
>I'm not allowed to pay 48+ months in advance
Why the hell would you need to pay 4 years in advance???? Get the damn unit and then you can go back at some point easily. Or pay online.

>>35156042
Why the hell do you want to be a chef?

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how well off will I be if I try to become a 19k? tanks give me such massive fucking erections

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Please post

>your age and desperation level when you enlisted/commisioned
>your branch and mos
>your thoughts about your mos
>your ambition for private/military industries, how your experience changed your goals

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>>35156042
i want to do this too, but for my manga collection

>>35156042
Speak to the recruiter. You should be able to keep it in storage and then pick it up when you finish training.

>>35155750
This, my parents genuinely believe I'm going into trench warfare if I even go air force lmao

>>35156276
>72. I wasn't desperate at all, it was a family tradition and far more common back then.
>British Army
>No such thing, but I'm glad with where my career went.
>Worked for them for years. You don't want to end up there, or view the military as a springboard into private sector work. It very rarely ends up that way.

On the last point, forget about it. I worked for numerous ones and although I enjoyed myself, and due to prior experiences had a lot of autonomy, it's not a career you should aim for. Lean toward the academic side of it if you are set on it, but the military is far much more fun. Contracting is dull.

>>35154840
Give it to me straight y'all, what's the likelihood of me getting a milk allergy waiver to go marines or army?

>>35156589
If you just can't drink milk, join, say nothing, and don't drink milk.

If you can't eat anything that contains milk product, zero percent.

>>35155123
Yes, lots more.

>>35154974
You'll have the body of a 65 year old by the time you're 30

I got diagnosed with ptsd a few years ago after almost dying in accident. Went to a psychiatrist/therapist, got some pills for a while, did some talking, and I am 100% great now. No problems.

Want to join air force or coast guard. I am guessing this would disqualify me, yes? If so should I just keep my mouth shut about it?

>>35156675
>If so should I just keep my mouth shut about it?
You got it.
Tell no one, not even yourself. Just forget that it ever happened.

>>35156702
Ok. One last question before I start wiping my mind from it - If I never say I went to treatment about it they will never get the doctor's records. The only regular doctor I go to knows nothing about it either. At MEPS they don't pull my medical information, or the recruiter doesn't or whatever, from my insurance or some magic medical database do they?

(And I realize how dumb that sounds after typing it out)

>>35156778
If your job choice requires a clearance they'll get hold of it. I know there are experts on here who'll say otherwise, but if they're interested they'll find out.

Despite that, have a good think about what you're doing. There's a reason they ask you that, and it's not because they hate people with it. There is the very real chance that you will have to do something under immense pressure, involving the lives and health of other people. You might be a great guy, and I'm sure you are, but do you really want to drop other people in the shit?

PTSD is a horrible thing and has all sorts of repercussions. Think very carefully about what you're lying about.

>>35156662
I went to college for one year I smoked a quarter ounce a week. I didn't really have stoner friends I was just a fucking bum and was always high/drunk or on something else.

Nobody knows my "stoner friends" I only remember half of their names. It's not going to come up.

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>>35156778
they're in this thread right now and watching you

shoulda deleted your cookies

>>35156778
>>35156798

This. Already broken people lying their way into the military is a large part of the reason there's so much suicide among veterans and service members.

>>35156836

>Lying about something that might ruin your career because you're a low-quality human being.

Understandable, some people are just shit, but these qualities usually shine through with time.

>Lying about something that won't even disqualify you.

Completely retarded, probably too dumb to actually serve in any useful aspect.

>>35156798
You've give me much to think about. Thank you. I wouldn't be considering this if I knew I haven't greatly matured and overcome what I went through, but I would never want this to affect someone else.

>>35156847
Oh no!! Deleting my hard drive after posting.

>>35156853
Well shit. Broken was a pretty good adjective to describe how I was at the time. I really don't want it ruin someone else.

I'm in college and thinking of national guard. What are the pros/cons of this if anyone here has done it before?

>>35156853
>This. Already broken people lying their way into the military is a large part of the reason there's so much suicide among veterans and service members.
this is 100% untrue you idiot. People commit suicide due to PTSD.

>>35156778
>>35156798
It's not just clearance level jobs, they often stumble upon fraudulent enlistments at random. MEPS will have no way of knowing but when you start DEP and fill out your EQIP you are releasing the right to conceal you medical history, criminal history and such.

I would say if you go in and have an otherwise clean sheet at MEPS, don't ever show signs of a problem through bootcamp, and aren't otherwise a suspicious candidate for some reason. Then you will have a very very low chance of getting found out. But if u have like 3 other waivers or a long medical sheet they will pull everything. Basically it's worth the dice roll I'm currently doing the same thing with my ADHD. Wishing us both luck.

>>35156956

Pros - Possibly more money for school, depending on your state, as well as some pay and maybe a little work experience.

Cons - Likely to delay your graduation by pulling you out of class for training. Your obligation will also probably be longer than you will be in college, so you have to consider the impact of being in the guard on future employers. You're also unlikely to be able to go active later.

>>35157025

Bruh, anon up there is already diagnosed with PTSD and wants to lie about it in order to get in. How well do you think he's gonna do if he grabs another healthy dose of mental trauma in the military?

>>35156869
Well to be fair I was already done with my recruiter and MEPS at the time and my recruiter advised me to lie about it there. So rather than put anything conflicting anywhere else I stuck to it. Because tho I may have BEEN a shitty fuckup I really am a lot better, eating well, exercising a lot, getting sleep. It's something that is behind me and is buried in the past with no way for it to come to light. Sorry if me lying hurt your damn feelings but I'm going to be just fine and you can go fuck yourself you prick.

>>35157064
Im not saying he should lie.
Im fighting against your statement that the reason suicide is so high is because people lie to get in. maybe in some cases, but the vast majority of suicides are due to what they experience while in not due to prior conditions.

>>35157084

>Feels bad, gets mad.

Confirmed that you're the latter. You aren't an amoral fuck, you're just stupid. Have fun stacking up those lies for your entire career, and knowing that you're doing it all for no reason.

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Can I get a quick rundown of the US Air Force in terms of enlisting?

>>35157025
>>35157064
He must just be slow he said it was 100% untrue then basically agreed with you outright.

>>35156880
Consider Reserve service. If you try it out and it isn't for you, it's no harm done. If you do like it, you can get on tours. It's at your own pace. I'm not saying they'll be looser with the medical stuff, but it's a much smoother transition.

>>35157117
That statement is 100% unture.
>Already broken people lying their way into the military is a large part of the reason there's so much suicide among veterans and service members.
>a large part
That is 100% untrue
Its an insanely minimal part. Take some time to think about what im saying.

>>35157109
I don't have to be Amoral to lie, I find it unimportant and irrelevant. Don't see what my views would have to do with anything tho. Sorry I don't masturbate to Glory Honor Integrity Justice Honesty Duty. I mean fuck off im doing my time, getting some money, learning some stuff and leaving. You can think I'm a "bad dude" because lying is a big no no in the Bible but you can shove it up your ass because I don't really care.
>stacking all the lies? You mean I just never have to admit to smoking weed

>>35157155
Well I might agree with you for past generations who caught in a lot of wars and actually dealt with some tragic shit. But you don't think in today's military if we could revive all the people who committed suicide and go back into their heads at MEPS that they would be more likely to have preexisting issues? Anxiety, ADHD, past depression, PTSD, bipolar disorder, past counseling, addictions. I think he has a fair point, the military on its own can be tough and since plenty of people lie at medical every year wouldn't it be more likely that a good chunck of the ones who couldn't take it were really prior risks that lied while getting in.

Is PJ school the easiest of all the SOF?

>>35157215
>and actually dealt with some tragic shit
?????????????
Are you seriously implying what happened in GWOT wasnt tragic?????
I seriously cant believe how stupid what you just said is.

>>35155106
How many hours a week do People in the navy on a boat normally work?
10 hours 7 days a week?

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>>35156956
Typing from my dorm right now.

Pros: Most states will give you 50-100% off tuition if you go to a state school. If you sign for 6 years, you get a GI Bill. Not great money, but cash is cash. You could also apply for an ROTC scholarship if you wanna go an officer route while still in school. I personally advise against it, but it's neither here nor there.

You'll also get some credits transferred over depending on your MOS and your major. And if you live on campus, you have an excuse to peacock with that uniform when you go to drill, and show all the girls how "cut" you are from doing 42 pushups in basic.

Cons - What >>35157043 said. I'll have drill conflict with class on occasion, but professors are pretty forgiving. You can sign a 3 year contract to check it out, but be warned that you won't get a GI bill then (unless you end up deploying).

Which 35x MOS is the one that gets drive around in plain clothes doing spooky shit? How much of a choice of MOS do you get if you go for a commission? I want to do spooky shit after I graduate from college, but it doesn't seem worth it if I have to go in as enlisted to do it.

>>35157279

Your daily reminder that the vast majority of PTSD and suicide is among non-combat veterans.

>>35157287
It depends. Shitty answer but true.
In general, in port you work a normal 5 days a week. 7-3+. Some jobs stay later than others. You also have duty where you are stuck onboard for 24hrs and stand watchs. How many duty sections your ship is in depends. We were in 6.
>>35157323
Data please, cite a source.

>>35157300

>Which 35x MOS is the one that gets drive around in plain clothes doing spooky shit?

35L would probably be closest, although there's neat assignments for pretty much every 35-series that can land you in civvies.

>How much of a choice of MOS do you get if you go for a commission?

You compete with every other officer candidate in your class for the available slots.

>I want to do spooky shit after I graduate from college,

Intern at an agency and then go work for the government, there's absolutely no reason to join the military if you don't want to.

>>35157349
>Intern at an agency and then go work for the government, there's absolutely no reason to join the military if you don't want to.
That's easier said than done. It's competitive enough to go for a normal job, let alone working for an alphabet agency. They all see military experience as a plus. I wouldn't mind being in the military, but I wouldn't want to be enlisted.

>>35157279
I see I hit a sore spot, that's my bad dude ofc it's tragic. But what I'm saying is when our grandparents were in they all saw combat.

Now you can basically eliminate navy/airfoce/coast from seeing real combat. And even marines and army are anything happen in very small percentages compared to the whole.

All of that aside your dismissing the real point say there are 100 marines sent in to a village. Said village begins attacking them for no reason and they slaughter their ways out. Let's just say all 100 survived, and over the next 10 years, 5 committed suicide. So of that 5% what do you think the overlap would be with the 10-15% of people lying about serious stuff to MEPS would be. Honestly I wouldn't be shocked if 100% of them had past conditions, for you to say that a "large part" is unrealistic is just ignorant. Or to pretend our generation has seen even a 1/10 what past military generations have had to go through and on a much smaller scale.

Genuinely sorry if u served recently in some part of GWOT and it was tough. I don't doubt it and it's definitely hard shit, but it's really got little to do with the base of this argument.

>>35156258
Not that anon but from what I've been told it's one of the few unsung MOS's that actually transfer over to civilian life extremely easily. Plus there's literally always openings for it because "nobody joins the Marines to be a chef," to quote a friend of mine who enlisted. My father told me that unfortunately they're looked down upon in the Corps.

>>35157347

http://taskandpurpose.com/truth-22-veteran-suicides-day/
>Between 2001 and 2009, there were 1650 deployed veterans and 7703 non-deployed veteran deaths. Of those, 351 were suicides among deployed veterans and 1517 were suicides among non-deployed veterans.

>While veterans have a suicide rate 50% higher than those who did not serve in the military, the rate of suicide was, as the LA Times reported, “…slightly higher among veterans who never deployed to Afghanistan or Iraq, suggesting that the causes extend beyond the trauma of war.”

>>35157408

>It's competitive enough to go for a normal job, let alone working for an alphabet agency

This is a meme. I've worked at an alphabet agency. They hire a fuckton of recent college grads.

Wanna know a secret? Government pay is kinda shitty. The people who end up at agencies often aren't the ones who are the best at what they do, they're the ones who really wanted to work for the government. Those who are the best at what they do can make much more money elsewhere.

If you think you have to enlist to get a federal job and you haven't actually tried to apply for any internships, you're just deluding yourself.

>>35157347
http://popularmilitary.com/study-finds-non-combat-vets-more-likely-to-commit-suicide/
Shitty mil blog but has real sources
https://www.militarytimes.com/pay-benefits/military-benefits/health-care/2015/04/01/study-no-link-between-combat-deployment-and-suicides/
Harder evidence easy to follow very broad scale test sample

>>35157279
Is this a meme I'm unaware of?

>>35157416
Youre clearly a reasonable person but youre very wrong.
People who were over tehre saw some horrible things. Not to mention the anxiety effect. Can you imagine how terrifying it is to ride around not knowing when an IED is going to blow up? That constant stress and fear?
I think in terms of scale the things the people was are the same across generations. You gotta realize how small the war was in comparison to ww2 for example. So proportionally i think its the same. And as far as pre-existing conditions goes i would need to see data proving otherwise. Most people who commit suicede or suffer from PTSD said the flshbacks and nightmares and stress from what thevye seen drove them to it. Now maybe they were more pre-disposed to it than others perhaps, but again id need to see data.
>>35157468
>>35157431
I think this goes with what i said above, maybe thoe people are simply more pre-disposed to dealing with stress and anxiety poorly. It doesnt mean they lied about their condition cause they simply may not have known.
Also war still clearly has an effect cause most mil members never see war, so whenyou compare the numbers in terms of % not gross total the suicide % is still higher among war seeing troops.
>>35157495
What do you mean?

Will I be able to investigate at all as a Security Forces Officer with a CJ degree or is that requirement on the recruiting page a load a shit?

Being a cop for the military sounds fun, but being a gate guard does not. I know OSI exists but it seems pretty competitive and I want to see if SF officer is any good as a backup

>>35157593
Look into that army counter terrosim detective or whatever its called. looks solid from what i seen i just cant remember the MOS.

>>35155750
>>35155766
>>35155802
Funny enough, I get told this most often by OTHER ARMY VETS! Is the Army just one big pity party or what?

>>35157631
CID you mean? Yeah I've been looking at that as well but I'm looking to see how other jobs and branches compare. I think Marines and Navy both have civilian only investigative positions so Air Force is really the only other thing I want to look at

>>35157538
Its simple to know it also has to do with career. If your dad is a poverty stricken loser and your only option is his exact career choice then youd be sad.

Can you do PA school through the Army? I know they have PA's there, but do they offer school for it too?

So, do we have a tier list for spec-ops yet?

>>35157725
Clearly theres lots of factors that go into it no one is denying that. My point is jsut that if you see your ebst friend get hit by in IED than burn to death that probably isnt going to help.

>>35157113
Navy is slightly better just in terms of job competition, and specialty jobs in other branches can be better if you get them. Marines have a lot of airfield jobs and so forth.

>>35157459
I applied for internships for the summer after my sophomore year and I didn't have any success, maybe I was just too young and had no experience on my resume. I mean obviously working something like HR for the FBI is going to be less competitive than working HR at a Fortune 500, but I'm not applying for HR. I want to do something like the CIA Clandestine Services, something that doesn't exactly have a private analogue.

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How does becoming a Ranger go for a 68W? Thinking of enlisting after college and would actually like to operate and be spooky. This makes me sound retarded, I do agree, but its something I've wanted since I was young. (Or at least I think I want).

>>35157764
>im a COD kid
>>35157716
ya CID was what i meant. I dont know enough about the AF to help

>>35157787
Almost positive you go thorugh the 68W pipeline like normal than you go to RASP after that.

Is it true that marines always set their sights to the furthest setting they're allowed so the bullets go farther?

>>35157823
No, but I remember reading that Africans do literally do that.

>>35157823
Reminds me of the Chinese boxers.

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>>35157823
This is what happens when you have daily Marines bashing threads. People end up believing the Marines are literal fucking retards.

>>35155853
you can't just fucking pick 18D during q course. Whatever they deem you best at, and whatever they need most, that's your MOS.

>>35157857
>People end up believing the Marines are literal fucking retards.
Maybe it's because Marines are literal fucking retards.

>>35157764
When you compare Spec Ops, you're comparing a hammer, a boxcutter, a screwdriver, and a wrench all to one another.

They all have different objectives and goals. There is no "tier."

>>35156636
How true is this? How do some make it into their late 30s and 40s doing this are those the ones with good genetics and the body was able to handle the stress?

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>>35157857
>>35157870
Reposting from last thread because it bears repeating:

What civilians think Marines are:
>Hardcore Army, toughest of the tough, can beat anybody, doesn't afraid of anything, don't mess with THE MARINES!

What Marines actually are:
>Young adults with something to prove who have the mentality of 8 year olds and a genuine belief that they can stand toe to toe with Tier-1 operators. The Navy, rightfully, uses them as people to do their dirty work for them so the guys and gals with actual brains can get things done. SOF guys patronize them because they're the equivalent of a little kid trying one their dad's business suit, thinking they're one of them, and it's just so darn precious. Everything they do has been made obsolete by the mass production of air planes and helicopters, meaning amphibious assaults are effectively useless, and their unwillingness to compromise MUH CORPS makes them incredibly frustrating to work with, because their entire metric for "how should this be done?" is almost always answered by "the way Gunny says so/the way the guy before you did it."

So what are they left with? Spiffy uniforms and a massive inferiority complex, so now they have to plaster the Eagle, Globe, and Anchor on everything they own and end every conversation with "Semper Fi."

>>35157857
>People end up believing the Marines are literal fucking retards.
I can't even begin to tell you how real and true this is. Made a lot of brothers that I would call family, but goddamn they are dumb as hell.

>>35157867
except 18D is the hardest and most in demand, so chances are if you want it theyll give it to you

>>35157788
Thanks anyway.

Does anyone else know anything about Security Forces and Officers besides the badge swiping and door guarding?

>>35154840
Oh wow that was my post

>>35157911
My pog radar is going off

>>35157959
Lots of self-hatred and insecurity

>>35157911
They won't even be able to brag about the uniforms once the Army gets pink and greens back.

>>35157911
>>35158027
I absolutely hate this fucking uniform nonsense so much. Literally no one cares about fucking uniforms. Youre going to only wear it 3 times a damn year and the times you do are going to be a huge pain in the ass.

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>>35154840
How likely am i to get my medical waiver denied if i tell my recruiter? I hear about people waiting months for their waiver to get approved, only for it to come back denied. I'm afraid that will happen to me.

>>35158017
There's nothing 'elite' about being a Marine. They make great infantrymen, but so do the Army. Difference being that the Army can actually keep their people.

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>>35157857

>>35158048
It matters to marines, which should tell you something about them right there.

>>35158090
but it actually doesnt, only cod kids who havent even joined yet gossip about it

>>35158048
>>35158090
We had a Marine Lieutenant a few threads ago, and he actually brought up the uniform as one of the selling points for why he joined.

>>35158108
exactly, idiots care about it before they join.

>tfw just learned I could get discharged due to ssi
>already passed meps
>getting all sorts of mixed messages based on what I should do
Fuck it hurts, but I feel like if I come out I wint get waived.

God its those stupid mental disorders that arent even real. I didnt realize they would fuck me over this hard.

>>35158056
It would help if you said what for dumb dumb, and also what branch you are trying to join matters a little

>>35157787
Join the discord and let's talk. I'm getting ready for 68w Opt 40 once I graduate too

>>35158147
Sorry, i have hypothyroidism and i want to be a CTI in the navy.

>>35158140
What do you have? Is ssi an abriviation of something I'm completely unaware of.

>>35157127
Thanks, I am looking at the reserves for both those branches.

>>35157064
To be fair, I think I have become much more resilient after getting a ptsd diagnosis and then overcoming it. I do appreciate the concern though and wouldn't be seriously considering this if I thought it would be an issue.

>>35157215
That's a valid point. I really do envy guys who have had a totally 100% stable mind and haven't had issues there. It just sucks to get thrown in with schizos, personality disorders, etc.

>>35158169
Social security income for mental "disability". Every penny went to my parents too. Even a military lawyer I talked to says I may or may not be fucked.

>>35158157
Will do, give me a sec

>>35158167
Hm haven't heard of hypothyroidism before but from my very brief google findings it doesn't look like something MEPS would have a shot at catching onto. That being said this means if you wanted to lie about it and pretend you didn't have have it (or even just didn't know you had it) then you will get in.

If you can get through bootcamp and into active duty station and go to their medical they would have you treated rather than discharged.

Lastly idk if it hurts and stuff, I really still don't have any grasp of what it is other than a hypo active thyroid but; if it's going to be a problem in bootcamp being off medication (if you are on any) or with pain in PT. Then I would advise trying to get it waived prior. It isn't listed as an automatic disqualifier I don't think.

Anyways good luck however you chose to go at it.

>>35158198
Hmm that's a tough one. Wait so did your parents who're you out as a tard to steal money from the government?

Well whatever happened I looked it up and ssi isn't good to have for any branch, and being that they have your social written on every piece of paper about you in 20 diffent places, I think it will be caught on to. Did you DEP in yet and do the oath/mock swear in shit?

>>35158195
Having a rock solid stable mind either means you have probably gone through some issues in the past, or you are too stupid to understand a need to have any problems with anything. I'm the first, with enough nihilism, drug abuse, selfishness, loss, and trauma eventually you just get over everything and realize life can be shitty but just move on. I've watched a friend die (not in service) but after a few years it doesn't make me feel sad anymore just lucky.

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The sad thing is that Marines really haven't aged well with the times. Technology just happened to evolve out of their favor. They don't really do anything that can't be done by other branches now. I mean hell, the Army has been good at amphibious landings since World War II, so why do we even have them anymore?

>>35158157
currently stuck in boots if you're still here.

>>35158237
Thanks for responding man. Hypothyroidism makes it so my thyroid is underactive, and doesn't produce as much hormones as it should, like testosterone, estrogen, etc. It's not life threatening or anything, i'll just get really tired and start gaining weight if i don't take my pill semi-regularly.

I assume since the job i want doesn't involve going out in the field everyday, that my condition wouldn't be a problem.

I never know what to believe. Everyone I speak to IRL tells me the air force is great

But when I Google it everyone says its shit

I don't know what to do. I don't want to be in my late 20s early 30s and earning below average.

I want something that will give me a great pay after I leave.

I'm the fat body working on getting in better shape for the army. Can someone redpill me on 11x? What are the pros and cons of it over 0300? I'm pretty much just going to join whichever can take me faster unless one is worth the longer wait.

>>35158531
>I want something that will give me a great pay after I leave.
if youre elaving in 4 it almost doesnt matter. Career wise its far more important. Job selection is more important.

>>35158550
I plan on staying until I am 26, therefore 8 years.

>>35158270
Yes ive sworn in and passed meps, ship out in early november.

Itll completely DQ me if they find the records, so should I just take it in the ass in the off chance they mess up paperwork?

>>35158590
Why exactly 8 years? and what job nigga

>>35158642
Because I want to get good at a trade and then live the rest of my 20s happy with money, a wife and a white Chihuahua and perhaps a malamute or husky.

I also want a home gym and large garden with a trampoline.

But yeah, what I'm asking is, what trade should I take up?

Is engineering a bad idea in the armed forces?

>>35158658
So you havent actually looked at specific jobs yet just general fields? There is no "engineering", you wont get a degree if thats what yore implying.
If teh Navy there are engineering type jobs that work on the ships engines but thats far from being an actual engineer.

>>35158694
I've been looking for the past 8 months, I just have no idea what will get me what I want in life.

In the RAF I'm under the assumption they give you a University grant for trades such as Aviation engineering / technician

I wanted to do weapons technician personally
I've only been told its shit though. Is it? I have no way of knowing.

>>35158610
Umm fuck man honestly if I was you personally I wouldn't bring it back up. But if I was me and I was advising you as you; I think you maybe should try to tell someone about it.

I lied about some serious medical stuff but they aren't as likely to find that so I'm just keeping my mouth shut. But even I'm kind of pissing myself, and you they are much more likely to find and could find years into your career.

Do what you want but if you have any bonuses throw them in the bank for a while, because if they catch it and kick you, you will be responsible to repay them all of it.

Good luck buddy, hope I didn't spook you out more.

>>35158742
Dude yuo arent american? I got no fucking clue how ither countries branches work dude.

>>35158781
8 months of research and I don't even know how my own countries military works.

>>35158801
eventually youre gonna have to take a leap of faith then dude. Find specific forums for your own countries military dude. probably a better resource than 4chan.

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>>35154840

I want to try out for BUD/S when I commission into the Navy.

Problem is, I wear glasses.Is the the Navy often willing to pay for Lasik, or will I be stuck paying out of pocket for it personally?

>>35158410
If you have to take medication it will be a serious problem.

>>35159027
They will pay for corrective surgery but it probably wont be Lasik. It will be PRK, and a version at least 6 years behind the civilian market.

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>>35159486
Well that's stupid. I'd understand if i was going O311 or 11b, my condition could be a problem. But all i want is a comfy CTI desk job.

>>35159531
As long as my peepers work then I'm game.

>>35158341
Marines work well being attached to the Navy, which is exactly why they are.

Keep in mind, in the Navy, 95% of rates are non-combat and you just do basic marksman quals and nothing else

>>35159811
Keep in mind the navy doesn't do shit in terms of combat deployments so there's still no point for them. They just leach onto the boast work 6 hours a day tops, fill up the gyms, congest the berthings, and play cards for edible crayons.

An e1 in the navy is more useful on a ship than any marine on board.

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>>35160307
>>35159811
>"Elite fighting force"
>relies upon another branch for almost everything that makes them effective

>>35158948
Wht did he mean by this

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How effective is this workout?

>>35160307
This post is confusing as fuck. Are you shitting on the navy or marines?

>>35160501
Complete nonsense. They dont do that shit.
Whats your current fitness level? Give me hard data.

>>35160520
He's shitting on Marines because they're useless and take up space.

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When it comes to joining the Marines or the Army, which would be the better all-around decision as my Plan B if the Navy doesn't work out?

I like maritime operations, so Marines would fill that niche, but if everyone in these threads is constantly shitting on them then it's probably for a good reason.

>>35155761
The military has a program for enlisted only that is called the Enlisted to Medical Degree Preparatory Program at the Uniform Services Academy. After a few years in a medical enlisted MOS you could get paid to take the college classes required for med school, then apply to med school after a year or so.

I am a history major myself and currently applying for OCS, but if my GPA was below the OCS cutoff I would consider this program since it is exclusivity for enlisted.

https://www.usuhs.edu/emdp2

>>35160937
>if the Navy doesn't work out?
Why wouldnt it?
Btw you dont know what you like cause you havent done any operations yet.

>>35160987
>Btw you dont know what you like cause you havent done any operations yet.
Very true. I'll rescind that statement.

>Why wouldn't it?
I'm trying to earn a commission, and I've got the grades for it, but I've always been raised to function under the motto of "If you don't have a Plan B, you don't have a plan at all."

>>35161010
Well u get where youre coming from i suppose.
You trying to be a SWO?

>>35161051
Yeah.

>>35161085
Well bank on SWO, its a good job. and yes avoid the marines like the plague.

>>35161130
Will do. Thank you!

>>35161148
i dont think SWOs have any influence about their first duty station, but if you do try desperately to get either a cruiser or a destroyer.

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>>35154840
is joining Rangers worth it?

My weak points are
>right knee: injured while squatting 5 years ago, very likely tore some ligaments and did nothing but walking for months accompanied by popping noises with every step. Now only hurts when used with improper form.
>right shoulder: subluxed 2 years ago, 95% function back no pain or weakness
>probably mild IBS, when I need to go I need to fucking "go" and there's no stopping it
>become a miserable mess when I get sick
>most of my daily fuckups are from lack of attention to detail and forgetfulness
My strong points are
>otherwise physically fit
>drive to see things through to their finish regardless of inconvenience
>enjoy working with other people to accomplish a goal
>don't bitch about much
>willingness to put up with bullshit if I know there's a payoff
Am I salvageable?

>>35161276
Absolutely. SOF guys are set for life when they get out. Just keep in mind that Rangers are sadly one of the more overlooked SOF groups (which is ironic since they're the oldest).

>>35154840
Is 5'7" too short for Rangers? Is it too short in general?

>>35161316
No. IIRC 4'8 is the lowest.

>>35161303
>SOF guys are set for life when they get out.
???

>>35161303

>set for life

What did he mean by this?

>>35161361
Publish a book. The public eats that shit up.

>>35160937
Army gives you a lot more options for jobs, can guarantee your job specifically while Marines can guarantee your field only, plus stuff like enlistment bonuses.

>>35161385
That's true. And assuming I wanted to audition for Spec. Ops., I hear they have much better capabilities since those units actually get financed.

>>35161303
Why have the been overlook?

The only reason I'm considering joining is because they get more action/missions than Navy Seals. Plus you get the opportunity to join Delta Force

>>35154840
Best jobs in the navy?

>>35161472
>Best foods in the world?
>Best women in the world?
>Best cars in the world?
Wow its like its subjective!!!

>>35161543
That doesn't answer my question.

>>35161472
Anything below deck

That's where you can play the most grab-ass without getting caught

>>35161543
The implication behind my statement is that I want your opinion.
I guess you are a marine or something.

>>35161417
Due to their nature. They're a raid force, so they're not quite as surgical as other elite units, and they've performed duties similar to conventional infantry forces during these past few years which results in a lot of people (incorrectly) thinking that they're not SOF.

>>35161557
>>35161574
>replying to the same guy twice

Can you be more butthurt?

>>35161472
69D deck swabber

>>35161582
I responded and then realized I had to put it into laymans terms, its hard talking to potatoes when you are used to normal people.

>>35161574
Yes you idiot my opinion is subjective as well. its the same thing you idiot.
>>35161603
read above, i need to know what you think is "best". Its completely different than what i do. For example if i fucking love cooking and you absolutely hate it, then how is it helpful for me to tell you to become a cook???
In other words again you absolute dumbass, tell us what you are looking to get out of the navy experience and then i can recommend something for a mouth breather like yourself.

>>35161624
How is aviation mechanic?
How are the jobs on the flight deck?
Are there naval aviation pilots?

>>35161663
>How are the jobs on the flight deck?
Like being a slave but worse. yes im serious.
>How is aviation mechanic?
Most aircraft maintenance type jobs are easy from what ive heard. You usually word at some random airfield and its pretty chill.
>Are there naval aviation pilots?
Not sure i get what youre asking. Im assuming you dont know that the vast majority of pilots on carriers are navy pilots? Cause they are. You definitely need a degree for that though.
Also when you grow up, you need to be able to admit youre wrong and apologize. Especially since im spoon feeding your ass.

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>>35161345
>4'8"
I guess Frodo did something else with his life after leaving the Shire.

>>35161729
i seriously cannot believe someone actually typed this and thought it was funny

>>35161748
manlet detected

>>35161697
I've let it go, why cant you?
thanks for the info.

>>35161762
You let go that you were wrong? Wow how gracious. Anyway, if you got more questions about specific fields or jobs go ahead.

>>35161779
What was I wrong about? The implications behind what I said?
When you ask a normal person hat they think is best they normally give you their subjective view and the deductive reasoning behind it, which was what i was betting on.
I cannot apologize I will not apologize i've done nothing wrong.

>>35161806
>When you ask a normal person hat they think is best they normally give you their subjective view and the deductive reasoning behind it
And? again thats pointless. Again lets pretend, im a cook, im a cook because i love cooking. Go become a cook. How much did that help you? None. It makes way more sense for you to say something like I love aircraft and want to work on them, is this a good area of work in the navy? And then we can go from there. I realize at 18 you think youre smart and always right but when you grow up youll realize that isnt true. And if you arent 18 and still think that way then thats just sad.

>>35161847
Its not pointless to me if that is the exact information I am asking for.

>>35160520
>>35160535
Yes I was trying to shit on the marines, couple missed commas and a few words that didn't autocorrect. My bad.

>>35161969
>>35161969
I realize youre asking it, im still saying you dont realize its stupid. Lets pretend i gave you that cook scenario and you never posted about air jobs. How would me telling you to be a cook have helped you?

>>35161297
My weak points:
>bunch of whiny bitchy old injuries that aren't affecting me and I have no need to disclose even on an anonymous forum for any reason whatsoever.

My strong points:
>don't bitch about much

Other remarks:
>oxymoron with slight mental retardation

>>35161582
Your still a dummy

>>35158531
Being in the Air Force is shit to people whose only reference points are Air Force or Civilian life. Ask someone who was in the Army or Marines and later transferred to Air Force what it's like, and they'll tell you it's amazing (in comparison to their last branch).

>>35162010
Fuck you bitch I bet you like goat asshole

>>35161990
Because I have an extremely minimal amount of information on the military.
Its easier to ask whats a not shit job then go off that baseline.

>>35158344
Ye, what's your name?

>>35162104
>I have an extremely minimal amount of information on the military
you should have opened with that you tard. With that being said you still most likely have thinsg that you like. Engines? Computers? Working with hands? medical? Get it?

>>35161472
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3EojLucN9w

>>35162205
This is so horrible its sad. AW and corpsman are great but those idiots said LS for fucks sake. Thats easily one of the worst.

>>35162122
Again the question I opened up with heavily implies I dont know much about the military.
Its not my fault your brain doesnt process past the literal.
>>35162205
Thanks

How good or bad is navy CTM? Any skiils that will transfer to the civilian sector?

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Non stem major (economics) with a 2.8 GPA from a accredited public university (big 10) looking to enlist in the navy. No other certifications to my name. The goal is naval aviator and I hope to be a pilot after the service, or work as an intelligence specialist with computers and then work in an intelligence agency after.

I believe e-3 is what I'd enlist into with the degree now. Assuming ocs doesn't work out, I'd try to become an officer after enlisting. Is this stupid? I've been job searching since I graduated this past May and don't believe I'll find a job anymore

>be me
>be officer cadet for the Argentine army, 4th para
>my fucking CO makes me rush to base at 3:45 in the morning to FILL A STUPID REQ FORM FOR A HELMET

why is the closest feeling to being a 3rd. class LT with incompetent COs having glass shards shoved up your relapsed ass. why is nobody COMPETENT

>>35162587
Not stupid, but make sure you choose a good rate.
>>35162402
I dont know if its great but it certainly is not bad.

>>35162650
On rate, you mean a position right? Any recommendations for these paths and/or in general? I'm gonna be speaking with a recruiter soon but I feel like they're out to fuck me. I've looked on the official Navy website pages too. Is that all there is to it?

>>35162071
Your such a joke kid... it's hilarious.

>>35162807
Navy recruiter probably won't try to fuck you, they save the cook jobs for really stupid people. You will probably do great on the ASVAB (military apptitude test) and get a choice at whatever rate you want (rate is job/mos in navy/coastguard). Some of the more technical rates are a bit undermanned because they need a pretty high ASVAB but most higher scorers head to the Air Force and Coast Guard. So these spots if you want them you would probably get e3 enlistment head to school for a short time after boot, and graduate A School at e4.

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I have a really good job opportunity, a job i would work the rest of my life. But then I won't get to push back the menace in the Rangers. I can run 2 miles in 14 min and do 70 pushups already. AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

>>35161748
I seriously cannot believe you typed that out and thought anyone gave a shit

>>35156007
>filled with women
lolno

I'm 31. I was prescribed ritalin for add in gradeschool. Took it for less than six months. I had an iep that I never utilized. I did well in school. I haven't taken the ASVAB. It wasn't required.

How fucked are my enlistment chances?

>>35163945
What's an iep

>>35163945
>>35164064
Nvm I looked it up. No big deal at all there, also since you haven't been on ADD meds for over 7 years you could probably get it waived quite easily. Or you could try to sneak it by if you don't want to be held up (cuz ur already kinda old). But realistically it should be very hard for you.

>>35164064
Like a 504 plan. Supposed to help kids in school do better through individualized rule bending. More time on tests, that kind of shit.

>>35164087
Good to know, thanks.

>>35164107
The end of that was a typo I feel like a douche. Meant *shouldnt* be very hard. If you can meet all the physical test requirements and head down today you could probably ship with 3-4 months

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>>35157911
>mfw their brainlet argument is to call you a POG

>>35163818
The AF is compared to other branches

>>35156007

>Job selection is sketchy
Compared to what, the Marines? lolno

>Slow advancement
Compared to the Army maybe.

>Small bonuses
Only for enlistment and re-enlistment because they don't need them.

>Filled with women and beta males
It's virtually all men and there are way more weebs in the Navy.

>Most SJW branch
It's filled with fucking Christian fundies.

>Not as much action and adventure as the other branches
Oh yeah, because the muhreens are totally playing CoD in real life.

Jesus fucking Christ the salt on you people still mad you didn't go Air Force.

>>35164183
Figured you had meant 'shouldn't'. Thanks for the input!

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>>35164380
>Compared to what, the Marines? lolno
lol yes, in the navy and army you lock in your exact job. You dont do that selection field crap.
>Compared to the Army maybe.
Compared to both army and navy
>Only for enlistment and re-enlistment because they don't need them.
What does this mean? You dont need free money???
>Filled with women and beta males
The AF has the most women of any branch you moron
>It's filled with fucking Christian fundies.
You know what a SARC in the AF is right? I rest my case
>Oh yeah, because the muhreens are totally playing CoD in real life.
Not sure why youre coping so hard. But everyone knows the Navy still deploys and has the most adventure. And as far as army goes they deploy more than AF as well and actually get their hands dirty in comparison to the AF.

>Jesus fucking Christ the salt on you people still mad you didn't go Air Force.
I went NAVY and dont regret it a minute. Its better than the AF in everyway possible. Try and disprove what i said faggot. Btw my asvab was a 95 and I made E-5 in 3 years so please eat my shit when you try and call me stupid or bitter or some nonsense. Deployed twice and saw more countries than you can name. Im going to get a pub sub atm and when i return i hope to see some cope reply by you so i can shit on you again.

Is it true that Officers have 1 shot and 1 shot only at BUD/S?

>>35164447

You can lock in your job in the AF if it's a critically manned field and get a bonus. Not quite an Army level bonus, but a bonus.
>most women of any branch
1/5 enlisted instead of 1/16. Whoa! Suge a huge ratio.
>SARC
Every branch operates under the same set of mandates.
>Navy still deploys and has the most adventure
I didn't know that a Seabee who spends three years down in Gulfport had more adventure than a Loadmaster routinely flying from Incirlik to Rammstein to Lakenheath. Whoa.

>>35164249
>all of my friends in the Navy are 10+ year vets
>all of my friends in the Marine Corps got out in 4 or less

Really causes those synapses to fire up

>>35162610
>Serving in the 3rd world
Thats pretty lame anon

Was shipping 9/11 with a course start date of 9/22 for OSUT. We got directly hit by the hurricane, and my ship date got moved to next week because traveling was impossible. How will they handle me when I get there? Will it be the same class but I'll have a late start?

>>35164557
>You can lock in your job in the AF if it's a critically manned field and get a bonus. Not quite an Army level bonus, but a bonus.
Ok, got for critically manned. But army and navy do all jobs. So you lose.
>1/5 enlisted instead of 1/16. Whoa! Suge a huge ratio.
So i was right and you were wrong? ok just checking.
>Every branch operates under the same set of mandates.
Cope
>I didn't know that a Seabee who spends three years down in Gulfport had more adventure than a Loadmaster routinely flying from Incirlik to Rammstein to Lakenheath.
On average you brain dead turd. Ships deploy all the time and believe it or not most people in the fucking navy are on ships on the ocean. maybe you've herad of it? Whoa

>>35165053

>most people in the fucking navy are on ships on the ocean

God I wish that this were true.

>>35165068
You arent? rate?

What's the difference between reserves and ng? Is there anyway to become sf in ng if there are no units in your state?

I can do a pretty damn good amount of sit ups and push ups but for whatever reason I can't seem to build up my run endurance well. How fucked would I be in army basic?

From the time to shipping out of MEPS, how long will i have to wait until i can play my guitar again? I'll be enlisting soon and worried about not playing guitar for a while. I literally play hours a day everyday.

>>35165304
Reserves are federal, NG are state organizations that can be called up for state emergencies or "federalized" for war. If you want to be SF, look at other states since you aren't restricted to your home state.

>>35165810
you literally dont belong in the military

How does one become a pog in jsoc

>>35165966
Explain. I'm not going to cry myself asleep at night because I can't play for a few months.

>>35165995
>I'm not going to cry myself asleep at night because I can't play for a few months
ok so then who cares. Youll play when you play you autist.
It could easily be a full year. lets say you go to boot, then a short A school, then the ship/unit you get assigned to is already on deployement or about to go. Then it could easily be a very long time.

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>>35165966
golly, anons decision is final, time to quit

>>35165966
>hobby is drawing
>literally just need pencil and paper
Sorry cucks

Redpill me on the AFROTC
>Currently in 2nd year of community college for an engineering degree
>Decide I want to go to a 4 year now, w/the AFRTOC
Is such a thing even possible? Will I end up a transportation specialist it something?

>>35166020
Well I'm 17C. I have about a year long AIT and then I doubt I'll deploy somewhere other than like Maryland or Virginia lol.

I figured AIT I could start playing again no problem, right? Isn't BCT the only time you have no freedom?

>>35166168
>I figured AIT I could start playing again no problem, right?
ya that should be correct.

what if I just join my local army/militia. i have a really good job but want to train too

>>35166168
What are the requirements to be a 17C? Have you gone through the enlistment process, or were you just promised a 17C job?

>>35166488
It's entry level, there are no requirements. You sign up like any other army MOS.

>>35166500
Thanks, I've been seeing conflicting information online about how to join as a 17C

>>35166488
I had the job locked in. I had a ship date and all. Then I got dq'd for acne. So now I'm waiting for it to open again.

>>35166525
>Then I got dq'd for acne
???
Wtf is this real?

>>35166598
Yes, you can get DQ'd for most visible medical conditions.

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I've been a bodybuilder for about 5 years. I'm in the gym almost daily, for at least 2 hours at a time.

I've been looking into Special Operations Forces, SEALs in particular, and I'm wondering if I will have to completely change my workouts to be able to pass BUD/S. Is this the case?

>>35167090
start running and swiming

>>35167127
Done and done.

Does this mean I need to stop lifting heavy weights?

>>35167090
This >>35167127
Cardio is paramount and work on those sitios,pullups and pushups instead of free weights.

>>35167140
It means calisthenics, running, and endurance are prized over literally everything else

>>35167090
>>35167140
Listen you BB clown, gimme some hard data.
height?
weight?
DL?
Squat?
Bench?
Pullups?
Shit like that. I need to knoww hat im working with. And btw if youre a BB style lifter you most likely have no clue what youre doing.

>>35167166
Okay, can do.

>>35167195
best thing to do is look into documentaries, youtube, and forums on what goes on during indoc weeks and training.
>>35167170
honestly 3 mile run time, 1500m swim, and pull ups are more important. those being the minimums

>>35167221
Yeah, I've watched the Class 234 documentary a plethora of times. I know those guys knock out push-ups like crazy. I'll dig around and find some of the preliminary exercises for those testing to get into BUD/S and jot down some notes.

>>35167221
>honestly 3 mile run time, 1500m swim, and pull ups are more important. those being the minimums
Compound lifts are based on overall strength which will serve you very very well. No one is saying running isnt important, infact its probably most important. Im simply asking what his strength level is actually at. Having a very strong back and legs will help greatly when moving with those damn rubber boats and rucking. Having strong shoulders will help with log PT immensely.

What does it take to fail being admitted to the memerines

>>35166598
Yep. Passed everything at MEPS with flying colors, 83 on asvab, college credit, in good shape, doctor took one look at my face and gave me PDQ

>>35167292
Literally what. Am I being memed

>>35167292
>>35166902
That's retarded.

>>35167295
>>35167296
Not him, but I've heard of people being dropped before for extreme acne and eczema.

>>35167292
>was gonna be a seal
>what happened?
>I had a whitehead

>>35167315
>>35167296
>>35167295
cystic acne can turn into a pretty serious condition, lots of people have been turned away for it

>>35167331
Not just pimples or two. Lots of guys and girls break out during boot camp because of the sweat/mud/lack of cleanliness routine.

But cystic acne is a whole 'nother ballgame from just regular pimples.

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>>35167345
This. I have cystic acne. it doesn't affect me so I'm pissed I got denied but it is admittedly worse than regular acne.

>>35167379
>>35167378
>>35167345
Accutane?
I used to have horrible acne as a teenager but took accutane for a time and ive never had problems since then.

Why do recruiters work so hard to get literally anyone into the military if MEPS is just going to dq everyone for the dumbest shit?

>>35167424
Cast a wide net and you're bound to catch at least some fish.

>>35167424
Because they have quotas to fill its their job and if they dont do It they look bad un frontal of their superiors.

>>35167390
I'd rather not get liver cancer and go bald. Plus you have to get a waiver to join if you've used accutane I think.

I've been on medication for a couple months now and I'll be heading down to Meps to try again in a month.

>>35167424
My recruiter actually called MEPS and sent them pictures of my acne. They said it's probably fine and to come down anyways. zl

lying cunts wasted 2 days of my life

>>35167471
>I'd rather not get liver cancer and go bald
complete nonsense dude. Taking it was the best desision of my life.
>Plus you have to get a waiver to join if you've used accutane I think.
Lol you would actually tell the truth at meps?

>>35167488
You need a prescription for it. Are you telling me they wouldn't find out?

>>35167488
>Trying to help
Kek dude just leave him be with his pizza face.
Must suck with the ladies baka

>>35167539
>wouldn't find out
No. They wouldnt
>ask me how I know

>>35167539
haha same >>35167544
you virgins are so naive. How many items do we gotta tell you people there is no huge medical database. it doesnt exist. They only know what you admit to.
>>35167542
ya having bad acnce is a nightmare. I used to have it horribly on my face back and shoulders. 6+ months of accutane and i was smooth as a babys ass. Lips are still kinda dry though but well worth it long term.

>>35167542
There's a reason I'm a grown man and a KHHV

>>35167566
honestly it wasnt until just now that I had realized I was on accutane, my flight medical was nearly 8 years after I had taken it as a young teen

>>35167639
>KHHV
JUST

>>35167701
were you >>35167471

>>35156042
3381 kek

>>35167786
no

>>35167801
>Food service especialist
Kek indeed

>>35167786
No? The liver cancer/ balding thing is just a meme that affects weak shitlords with poor genetics

>>35167830
>Hes a KHHV
You might just be talking to one of those shitlords

>>35167830
I know that thats my point. You didnt even realize you had taken it and were afraid to was what i was assuming.
>>35167859
???
Im pro accutane, i think that guy against it is>>35167818

how to beat shin splints before BCT

>>35168033
google it

>>35168151
I did. I'm asking for any personal experiences. Maybe somethings worked better than others for the people here.

>>35168344
>>35168344

NEW THREAD

>>35168344
>>35168344

>>35168191
>>35168033
by already being used to running