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>>34966181
Old thread:
>>34942857

First gun show of the season Sunday. Bretty excited and I got a whole pile of cash to blow

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>>34966267
Tell us what you're looking for, son.

>>34966348
Gee Bill! How come your mom lets you have two Schmidt-Rubins?

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>>34966181
I only have two Turk guns.

Making payments on this Schoenauer though.

>>34966464
Rotary mags are my fetish.

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>>34966446
I got the K31 first when I was 16, but needed a LONG rifle so I got the 96/11 last year.

>>34966482
How much did the 96/11 cost? I know K31 prices keep going up, so I can't imagine how much the older stuff goes for.

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This is as close to Turkish as I got

>>34966552
Nice choice. I'm looking at getting a Rasheed.

>>34966544
I'm pretty sure you can find the older rifles somewhat cheaper than the K31s, it seems they are a lot less desirable to people for some reason. I see G1911s and 96/11s go for ~$300 pretty regularly.

>>34966644
Really?! Huh, I'll have to look into it.

>>34966348
K31, mKIII ross, g98 or 88, vz98, smle,m95 and a handful of other shit

>>34966688
>Ross
Good luck.

>>34966698
Ikr

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>>34966181
My Frommer Stop gets to my FFL tomorrow (hopefully), I can't wait to play with it. Pic related is about half of the milsurp pistols at the gun shop where I bought it. Notice the mannlicher m1901. It was pristine, looked like it had been made yesterday.

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>>34966552
Fuck you, sell me that. My Rasheed needs a big brother.

>>34966572
>Nice choice. I'm looking at getting a Rasheed.
Get one and never look back!

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>>34966181
>Post underrated Turkshit edition too.

Turked bolt, so its seen Ottoman service. That counts, right?

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>>34966181
I-I can still shoot good I swear.

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with matching bolt i might add.

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>>34966181
Last week, I picked up this Swede 1894 Mauser that was sacrificed to the Demons of Importation and gave it a new home

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>>34966972
Frommer Stop is love, Frommer Stop is life

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>gun show starts Saturday
>need to help my sister move her stuff from her old apartment
Well, this is what I get for not scheduling.
Not that I really know what to get.

Going to a fun show this weekend, probably only going to have $300-400 on me. Kinda hoping I won't find anything that makes me want to spend it.

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>>34967292
I'm mirrin' that bayonet. And congrats on owning like the only Turk rifle stateside that has a matching bolt. What year is your reworked 1893 and when was it manufactured? Mine was made in 1894 and reworked in 1934.

>>34967317
I don't see the brazed on barrel extension, so that's a good thing.

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>>34966472
They are mighty sexy.

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>>34967687
No idea when it was made. The terrorist script is worn off too badly. It was reworked in 1935 though.

Bayo sadly is short pattern. I couldn't find a sword.

>see on-m76b with rings on ebay for $330
>wait a few days
>it's now $300
>wait a little bit
>offer $280
>he accepts

holy shit boys I guess I'm doing this sniper project after all

>>34966446
I only see one

>>34968139
get out of this thread bubba

>>34968286
no

>>34966267
>>34967377
>>34967482
Oregon?

>>34968296

I'm the last guy, yes, Hillsboro on Saturday.

>>34968293
you're not welcome here

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>>34968303
I'll be there, I won't probably won't make an attempt to establish contact but know that somewhere on that crowd your friend lurks.

>>34968325

...you looking to sell that? Because one of the few things that might entice money out of me ATM would be an M44.

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>>34968139

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>tfw when you have to save your money instead of buying a mint M1917

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>>34968337
I just bought it though, like a few months ago.
I do hope you find one there at a reasonable price.

>>34968356

I did actually, but the seller didn't show up, then he asked for my phone number and didn't call me.

>>34968306
>>34968340
fight me

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>>34968378
That's rough buddy

>Buy custom built AR used for good price
>It has basically everything I would have put if one as to build one myself
>But a few mags and some ammo
>Despite how nice it is still don't enjoy it as much as my slavshit surplus guns

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What is it about pre-1900 Mausers that makes them so damn sexy?

I need a bayonet for this Chilean.

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>>34967370
>>34966972
I love my Stop. It's in amazing condition, minus the missing ejector) and cracked extractor (probably from the lack of ejector).

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>>34970087
My extractor broke, but a friend told me about Jack First gun parts. They've got newly made extractors for $50 and it's so, so worth it

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Just mounted my mosin on the wall, only gun I've got up at school so far

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>>34970230
Reeeee phone posting messing up my orientation

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http://www.gunbroker.com/Item/685192485

I am about to bid on this FR8. There is no pictures of the bore and I asked the seller to show me the rifling and I got "my camera is not that good, rifling is pristine" I hate ordering funs online.

Any reason to not believe him? Considering the outside finish seems fine could the barrel be shot out? Thanks.

>>34970004
A local gun shop has a Chilean. How is ammo cost with those? Maybe I'll go look at it.

>>34970259
>Any reason to not believe him?
Because they're trying to sell an item.


Hes probably right though. They got new barrels and .308 isn't corrosive or a barrel burner.


Tell the fag to get a better camera before posting more garbage though. Phone posters are literally cancerous

>>34966719
>Explosive pricing
I hope you know how to fix the extractor (I think) issues

>>34966972
>Not a Steyr Hahn
>Not a Gasser Revolver
9mm Steyr is actually kind of common for what it is.

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>>34970273
It depends. Mine is in the original 7mm. Some of them were re-barreled to 7.62 NATO in the early 50's (7.62 should be stamped on the reciever). 7mm is kinda expensive though, like .50-.75 cents a shot for commercial loads.

>>34970274
Thanks anon, just nervous as this is my first time using gunbroker. Wish me luck

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>>34970274
>.308 isn't corrosive
Au contraire.

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>>34966544
I'm the anon you replied to: I payed like 310 back in October of 2016.

Bear in mind, these older guns are a lot different than a K31, they're thinner and have a much more old world feel to them.

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>>34970004
I dunno but I do have to agree with you about the sexiness.

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Fun fact, for those unaware. The 1889 Mauser and 1891 Mauser are not interchangeable.

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>>34971303
Like the parts or what? I is confuse.

>>34971348
Pretty much everything. I mean, maybe the bolt release and ejector are interchangeable, but the mags, actions, and furniture obviously aren't. I say this because many people group them together as the same action and they aren't. The 1891 has better lug and extractor placement, and the cocking piece is noticeably different. If I weren't at work I'd put up some pictures to illustrate the difference better.

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Thank the /k/ube for the CMP.

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>>34971375
Mausers are a spectrum.

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>>34970500
Its really not fair to hold Spanish ammunition to french standards is it?


You have to be a special breed to to making corrosive ammunition that late int he game.

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>>34972167
I need a Swede.

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>>34972317
You feel the need?

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>>34972401

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>>34972401
Indeed. I have much need for some sort of Swede.

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Just traded my 42 nugget, hi point carbine, and SD9VE for this M48b along with 125 rounds of Hugo and Romanian ammo on stripper clips

>how did I do

>>34972631

Nooooot great. That's probably worth $500 with the ammo. Combine the nugget and carbine and you're already close to $500.

So the other guy got the better end of that deal value-wise. But the important thing is how much you wanted the Yugo.

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post swedes

>>34972455
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>>34972703
I fell in love with it and I didnt really need the other guns. He didn't normally take SD9s anyways because they're nigger guns but he made an exception

>>34972771

Well it's not a terrible deal, but you probably could have haggled him to keep the pistol or the Hi-Point and sell them somewhere else.

>>34972779
BTW this was a local gun shop not some armslist fag

>>34967377
That's a big cock

>>34972731
I would, but I've saving up for something else far rarer and a Ljungman would put too big a dent into that. So it'll have to be a 96 or a 38 (or a 94 if I can find one cheap).

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:). Best one.

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>>34972631
Well, Mosins are getting close to $250 now and your carbine was probably about the same so you got shafted. I paid $250 in January for mine and you can still get them for ~$300 online regularly

>>34972631
Family member just found one of these for $100 at a thrift store, or something similar

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>>34968378
That sounds awful.
Well, if I ever need to sell it I'll know where to ask.

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>>34966181

not all 'surp but the majority of it is. The rifle cut off at the bottom is just a beat to shit type 53

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What you guys think?

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Cont.

You got yourself a czech manufactured Rifle, not to bad.

Nah not really they annexed it after all

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbrojovka_Brno

>>34973453
I'm not a Dwemer so I have no interest in their arcane tools.

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I'm hungry, what should I eat?

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>>34973471
Mine's better nerd
Also fix your mosin

>>34973532
>He doesnt know about the illusive mountain carbine

>>34973532

Yep, you're right.

Mountain Carbine.

>>34966972
wtf is that pose

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>>34973453
>>34973471
BRNO-fist.

>>34973543
>what should I eat?
Cheese.

>>34973543
A bullet.

How much do m44's go for nowadays anyway? I thought I paid too much for mine a few years ago but now it looks like the price went up even more. I feel a strange urge to sell it and buy a m1903 Springfield now that 7.62x54r isn't very cheap anymore~

>>34973745
About $300 to $350 from what I've seen.

>>34973745
>>34973796
Got mine for 260.

>>34973796
>>34973837
Cool, good info. I can't understand why people would pay over 300 for a nugget now that the days of cheap spam cans are behind us.

>>34973909
Ammo reminds me.
I ordered a Lee reloading kit, what powder, primer and bullets would I need to reload 7.62x54r?

>>34973961
IMR 3031, 4895, or 4064 are my personal favorites. Some people insist that you should only use .310 bullets but I've had no problems using regular .308 diameter bullets. Large rifle primers obviously, I like CCI 200s because they're supposedly the hardest civilian primers available (not an issue in x54r guns but I reload other calibers).

>>34974043
Thanks, I appreciate the help.

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>>34972713
I come here pretty much exclusively to post the Swede anymore.

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>>34974093
No problem. There are a fuck ton of loads out there so don't be too afraid to experiment. Just pay attention to what you're doing and start any new load at 10% less than what is called for.

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>>34974138

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>>34974138
I'm stripping my m96 to give it a scrub, but I can't get that handguard off. Is it possible to remove it without knocking the rear sight off?

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>>34973909
I got mine for 200 burgerbucks last year.

>>34971723
Congrats. Post more pics, and tell us more about her.

>>34975139
Hmm. The only thing holding it down should be the barrel band and the ring at the rear, so you should just be able to lift it off from the front with the barrel band removed. You shouldn't have to do anything with the sight besides lift it like you already have.

Could it just be stuck on with old oil or grease gunk? I had a bitch of a time getting my rear barrel band off the other night for that reason, but afterwards it just came off easily.

>>34975319
I think it's just stuck. I can get it to lift from the front but the back on the receiver has little give. Any suggestions on how to cut the grease?

>>34975483
Maybe turn a hairdryer on it to soften it up a little? If its just grease it shouldn't be that strong if a bind at all. Maybe some of the more experienced tinkerers here can chime in?

The only other thing I can think of is that someone glued it down for some godawful reason, but that seems really unlikely.

>>34973909

Because the folding bayonet is the tits. Also because I eventually want a complete set of WW2 rifles, and the M44 is a WW2 rifle.

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>>34975139
Mine is like that stuck too. I didn't bother fixing it last time I had it apart, so I can't help you there anyway.

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Billy what is that in the upper left corner?

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>>34967370
>>34970087
IT FINALLY GOT HERE! It is 1918 manufactured and has Hungarian military acceptance marks

>>34976212
Pic related is the marks

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>>34976229
Forgot pic

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Are we still doing shitty pictures?

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>>34973909
I paid over $300 for each of the mosins.

>>34976188
Fuck if I know, but I think it might be a pressure test rifle.

>>34976384
Now here's a man who likes wood.

>>34976188
Hey. Why does skeltal have the new c&r shirt?

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How are the IMA 1853 Enfields, I'm wanting to get into antique milsurp

>>34976467
Why don't you?

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>>34975572
>>34975139

I think I'm going to leave it. It'll make cleaning the barrel more of a chore, but it's not worth fucking something up to save some effort.

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>>34972631
is this a joke? you traded 3 guns worth a collective $600 minimum for a rifle worth $250 and $50 worth of ammo. you did great anon

>>34976473
Everything i've seen says the older they are, the worse condition they are. Expect to buy an extra parts gun and to do a lot of stock repairs.

>>34976487
When is Martini-Henry episode? Plz

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>>34976212
Mmm I'm fuckin' jelly.

>>34976487
Too fat

>>34976487
Pls respond to my email about 7.65 frommer data

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>>34976212
>>34976283
Nice one anon.

Milsurp handguns are severely underrepresented in these threads.

>>34976587
>>34976713
Hopefully I can shoot it this Sunday or Monday. I've got the ammo, but my knees all screwed up, so I might not get to

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Going to a gun show with about 500 tables and about 500 bucks worth of saved up cash. Wish me luck.

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>>34976212
>>34976283
Looks fucking nice m8. Good job.

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>>34972713
Post frogs

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My Ishapore 2a1 is having problems ejecting rounds and just falling from the bolt back into the magazing instead of being ejected. What do?

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>>34966472

>>34966972
nice get. they are picky with ammo, need hot rounds to cycle the action, but the extractors are weak and will break with hot rounds.

I use light loads and hand cycle it like a single action.

How to avoid slam fires with SKS? It hasn't happened yet but now I'm absolutely terrified it might for some reason.

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>>34973043
they are nice. i only slightly regret over paying for mine.

>>34976188
Lebel converted for grenade launching / line throwing

>>34976963
Yeah, I've heard they like to break extractors, so I've looked into buying another one. The ammo I got is ppu so hopefully it will cycle. If not, I reload, so I'm sure I can build up a load to find the minimum power to cycle.

>Ok next paycheck I'll finally buy that rifle I want
>Check gunbroker
>End up buying bunch of milsurp
>This has been the case for the last two months

SOMEONE GET ME OUT OF THIS CYCLE.

>>34976986

https://murraysguns.com/sks-firing-pins/

>>34976986

Take the bolt apart and clean it.

>>34977054
Just do what I do and not make enough money to buy anything nice. It feels pretty bad, especially when I find a really good deal but it's just out of my comfortable price range.

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>>34976487
Cause I'm fat

>>34976487
Because last email said they wouldn't be printed until next month. I bought all four you damn beard elf, you can't guilt trip me

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>>34976883
Oh, are you the 3rd Lebel owner here?

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>>34976883

Anyone else feel a rifle isn't complete without a sling? And for milsurp leather is the most aesthetic

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Look how much goop i found in this m95. this is madness

>>34977912

Lubed for your butthole.

>>34977853

I dunno. I have slings on a couple of my guns and I generally find them underwhelming. Obviously a sling is a necessity for ACTIVE use, but for plinking or picture taking I think they just get in the way.

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>>34976904
Check the lips of your magazine.

>>34976904
common issue, mine does that too. the thing to understand is they eject with the left lip of the magazine. mine is a bit worn and i suppose yours is too. you can try bending it up a bit thats what i did to mine but i havent tested it out yet to see if the problem is fixed

A question. For a M93 Spanish Mauser, would an 8mm conversion be a possible hazard? I know US loads for 8mm are actually weaker than 7mm, but I'm just being doubly cautious. My uncle is sending me a only slightly sporterized 1907 made one and he says it's 8mm and I'd read there had been some conversions, but I don't have the rifle in hand yet so I don't know if it really is a conversion or not.

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>>34978401
Spain did convert a small number of M1893 rifles to 8x57 when they switched to 8x57 in 1943. Also the Turks converted the majority of their M1893 rifles to 8x57 and they work fine. The M93 action is plenty strong, it just doesn't have the gas-handling safety features of the M98.

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>>34977912
Boy it's been a long time since I took my M95 apart.

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>>34978455
Ahh, thank you. I'd just done some reading about some dumb ass bubbas that had done random rechamberings and the actions aren't up to the task of handling things like 7.62 NATO and 30-06. Along with the domestic made rifles having heat treating problems compared to the German and Belgian made batches. And now Shitty cell pic of the receiver!

>>34978488

In a week or so I'm gonna have a day where I take all my funs apart and clean them. I've got over 20 now and most of them haven't been maintenanced yet.

>>34978488
I have a M95 question, maybe you can help? If there isn't an "H" or an "S" on the barrel shank area, is it safe to say the rifle is still in 8x50 Mannlicher, rather than 8x56? The rifle in question is in really nice condition, so I seriously doubt it could have simply worn off.

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>>34979220
>If there isn't an "H" or an "S" on the barrel shank area, is it safe to say the rifle is still in 8x50 Mannlicher, rather than 8x56?
Probably hasn't been converted. A chamber cast would confirm.

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Alright /k/omrades, I need some advice. There's a local estate sale coming up, and they have a Mosin with some VERY early features. No sling slots in the stock, sling swivel on the magazine, and no handguard. Most importantly, it has the original finger rest (like pic related). That feature was dropped in 1893 (less than a full year into Mosin Nagant production)! It also has WWI German capture markings on the stock. Unfortunately, the rifle is not at all matching - the receiver and bolt are the only matching pieces, and they're from 1913.

Given this information, it would seem that an extremely early Mosin was captured on the Eastern front, recaptured or returned to the Russians, and was then cannibalized. Old stock/magazine/barrel bands, new receiver bolt.

Should I bid on it, /k/? On one hand, the apparent history is really cool, and the finger rest is collectible in and of itself. On the other hand, the rifle looks a bit ratty (metal finish is spotty, tough not rusty, and the wood finish was probably lightly sanded at some point and looks then).

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>>34979345
Mosin in question

(1/?)

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>>34979355
German capture marks and the finger rest.

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>>34979359
Worn finish on the barrel and missing the nose cap, I think?

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>>34979367
Even if it is a anachronic mess, the markings are nice.

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It's got a recoil lug, so the stock went through at least one upgrade.

I'd bid a couple hundred on it.

>>34979375
>It's got a recoil lug, so the stock went through at least one upgrade.
Good catch, I missed that.

From what I can find, it looks like the nose caps never really changed, so I don't have to hunt down a 1890s Mosin part, which is nice.

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>>34979398
>so I don't have to hunt down a 1890s Mosin part, which is nice.
I don't think you need to bother; looks like the very tip of the stock which the metal endcap covers is just gone.

>>34979422
Oh. I see what you mean. I don't think I realized the M91's nose area necked down twice.

I hope it was at least a clean cut, and not rough, unfinished wood up there. D: There aren't any pictures from the muzzle.

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Morning everyone.

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>>34979713
No u

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>>34979713
>he hasn't been shitposting since 2AM
Just finished eating lunch desu. Now gotta run some errands in my "afternoon".

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>>34979713

>dat flame birch
>wartime stock

nice tovarish, I'm glad that one didnt get blown to bits and covered in mongol guts by a kraut 88.

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>>34979345
>Should I bid on it, /k/?
Entirely up to you, but it'd be a cool thing to have and may be very valuable. Mosins retaining early features can fetch a good price.

>>34979940

>$9000 nugget
>Not even a first year production rifle

Why? you could buy a rifle with significant papered historical provenance or a much, much earlier gun for that kind of money.

>>34979957
Well for starters that was a Ka3, or Cossack marked Mosin. That alone raises the value exponentially.

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>>34979917
Yeah its all matching (including the bayonet), except the butt-plate. It was my first milsurp.

>>34979975

But is that really worth a $8500 premium?I mean it's cool, don't get me wrong. But you could buy a lot of gun with $9000. There's been M1's that have been documented to specific battles in the pacific that have sold for almost half of that.

>>34979975
>>34980033

Also forgot to mention that I found a Mosin with the Dragoon bow and arrow on it at a Fleetfarm in the mix with all the other mosins years ago. Wasn't that early, I believe it was a 1925r and was rebuilt but still, I guess I fucked up if I couldve got thousands of dollars for it.

>>34980033
Up to you. I personally wouldn't have bought it but I can see why someone else might. It's a historical one of a kind.

My Mosin buttplate has one screw that refuses to come out, I soaked it overnight in penetrating oil but to no avail. Screw is stripped ever so slightly on the one side so that the bit will not stay in the slot. I was thinking I would buy one of those screw extractors and drill it out but maybe someone here has a good idea.

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>>34980070

>>34980080

Well, if youre not worried about harming the finish around the hole a little bit, you could try using white vinegar to dissolve the rust. or use kroil. White vinegar is cheaper but it litterally eats rust away. I got a mosin from a friend who fired about 100 rounds of the corrosive ammo through it once and never cleaned the bolt. Needless to say, the firing pin looked like complete ass but after 2 or 3 days of soaking in white vinegar, it looked brand new other than the pits left behind by the rust. It will also parkerize the metal to a dark grey too if left in the solution for longer periods of time.

>>34980110
This also eats the blueing.

>>34980080
Use a dremel to cut another notch at 90 degrees to the original one...then use a phillips bit to remove it.

>>34979345
>Should I bid on it, /k/?
Why do people ask such stupid questions?
If you get a good deal on it, you can at least sell it for more than you paid.
>>34979940
I'm pretty sure I know the previous owner of that gun. She had a pretty good Cossack collection and posted them all on gunboards.

>>34980177
Yeah. Shame he had to sell them all for divorce recently. I almost bought his Cavalry carbine, but was too slow.

>>34980110
Trying to do as little damage as possible since it is all matching numbers, even though it is just a nugget

>>34980176
This seems like a good idea, it is about time I replace my broken dremel anyway. Would it be best to cut off the tip of the philips bit to lay flush in the grooves?

There is also these things: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000H6PM32/
But I have no experience with using them and I am worried I would make it worse.

>>34966972
You in Lexington bud? Is that classic arms & archery?

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>tfw my new 1903a3 will be here Wednesday

I traded a mismatched Russian M44, a mismatched Vz24, and 325 8mm projectiles for it.

Does anyone have a good link or can you tell me where on an SKS needs to be lubricated and with what?

I know how to field strip and remove the rifle from the stock but I've never seen any articles that say what parts need lubrication. I know the firing pin needs to be totally dry and the channel kept free of any obstructions but what about say the piston, piston extension and return spring, etc?

Does the piston or extension and return spring need to be lubricated?

How about the bolt? Lithium grease or just a good oil?

I mainly use 3 in 1 machine oil for lubricant but are there parts on the SKS that should use a grease?

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>>34970259
>have the winning bid on this gun
>400 bucks, good price
>10 minutes left I'm so excited
>immediately 5 bids take it up to 425, its gonna be 500 after shipping and FFL
I give up

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>just realized its range day
>realized that my backyard is a range.

Living in the country is the best.

>>34980298
just douse it in the blood of your enemies and she'll be good, why else do you think they would include a bayonet

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A beautiful day to take your guns out to the range in PA.

After putting 100 rounds of Malaysian 7.62 through my FR-8, It has grown on me.

>>34980437
>why else do you think they would include a bayonet

Skin walkers

Hi /kunts/ my dad gave me his 1913 marked Gew98 yesterday. I really like it but it's kinda long for my hunting needs so I think I'm gonna cut it down and tap the receiver for a scope. 8mm is a helluva deer round and I'd love to give this old gun a new life.

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I see we have a (you) farmer. Best pack up and head for a different thread though champ, especially with that weak ass bait.

>>34980853
Dear lord man. Do NOT Sporterize something of that age and build! Putting a scope on is one thing, but cutting down the stock and barrel is practically a crime. If you do anything buy a stock that you can customize or cut down and keep the original.

>>34980896
Wow that's nice looking

What kind?

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>>34966181
Why Bubba?

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/681718932

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>>34980940
>replying to really horseshit bait

Damn, I can't wait for my uncle's M93 to get here. Get a good look at it and take pics. It's been sporterized as far as putting a peep sight on it an a butt pad, but that seems to be about it. And honestly I can't complain about a peep sight due to being left handed and having a shitty left eye. Plus not having to deal with 300m base sights.

>>34981015
>>34981015
>>34981015
TL;DR: sell my Kar98K for something more fun and useful, or hold onto it until it becomes extremely valuable (God knows when)

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>>34980958
It's my Mas 36. I just got lucky and managed to take a decent picture for once.

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Just got done shooting these in our back yard. Lots of fun with my dad trying to hit milk cartons and Tea jugs at 100-300 yards. Got some with both the Chilean and the M48. My dad really liked the Chilean.

We're not regular shooters, so we didn't hit as many as I wanted, but it was fun, that's what counts right?

>>34981021
oh also pls no bully for being annoying/naïve, sorry I post my guns a lot

>>34980281
It is indeed. I'm not from there, but I was in town fi r the longrifle show. I loved that store. There was another antique gun store just down the street by a taco bell as well that I can't remember the name of

>>34981021
Do what you want

>>34981021
I'll give you $350 for it

I went to the gun show, I didn't see a lot that I could buy.

>>34980398

>yfw you're living with your parents until you're done with College 2: Electric Boogaloo
>yfw your mom is a stupid cunt who whines when you shoot even though you're on 5 acres and you're shooting away from the house

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>>34981418
Where?

>>34981493
Hillsboro or

>>34981021

It's really your decision. None of the shit you're talking about buying is likely to go up in price, but the guns probably will. So if you sell either of them now and decide you want one later then you'll have to pay more for them.

Personally I have all my modern purchases on hold while I buy milsurp, but that's my choice, you may feel differently.

>>34981507

Just got back as well. Not a lot there for me either, I vaguely considered lowballing the guy with the butchered Berthier, but most of it was stuff I either already have or am not looking for.

>>34981521
Yeah, I saw that one too, I was thinking about it, but I don't know much about berthiers.
Did you get anything at all though, I just got a Swiss Army knife as a keychain.

>>34981570

Nah, I'm trying to save for a new phone and then next year a new(er) car, so I'm trying to avoid too many frivolous purchases.

The Berthier was an M16, you can tell by the high-capacity assault magazine. But I didn't know if they'd cut the barrel down or not. If it just needed a new stock then that would be one thing, but I wouldn't want to need to try and source a new barrel too.

I'm interested in an SKS or a Springfield '03, but the '03s were starting too high and the SKS isn't high enough on my list to be spending $400+ on ATM.

>>34981194
Yeah classic arms is my favourite shop. That other one is ran by a bunch of uptight shitheads. I don't live in lex, I live over in bourbon county.

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How'd I do, /k/? LGS impulse buy.

>>34981915
If you're into hand loading and can get your hands on enough brass, yeah.

>>34981957
I've almost got my bench set up. Just need to set aside a weekend sometime and get ahold of the dies. Brass is no problem as of five minutes ago.

>>34981984
I challenge thee to make a six hundred yard shot! Or at least watch the video from Iraqvet8888 on taking those kinds of shots with one. Was fun.

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Muh ww2 pistol collection

>>34982062

Someday I'll run low on rifles that I want and start buying pistols.

>>34982062
You sure that C96 is dated to that Era?

>>34981915
If its as nice as it looks in that one pic, you did damn well. (provided its an authentic Martini, not a third world copy)

>>34982121
Luger and c96 are both ww1

Would an arsenal rechambered m93 Spanish, be marked as such? And where would the remark be?

>>34976963

What is that bottom gun? It looks badass.

>>34982291

1941 Johnson, about 10k used by the Marines in WW2. Johnson tried to get it accepted as a substitute standard for the Garand but it didn't work out.

would you rather have a very slightly numbers matching sanded austrian m95 or an import marked one?

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>>34982351
I'll take import-marked over sanded if given the option. My M.95 is not import-marked, has matching (probably Bulgarian force-matched) serials, but I wish bubba hadn't sanded the stock long ago.

>>34982351

I assume you mean very slightly sanded. I'd probably take the sanded one because then it'll probably look nicer and if someone gives me shit I can just say that it came that way.

>>34982351
Take the mark

always take a mark over any form of bubba or sporterizing. Unless you are willing and able to unfuck it yourself.

My M95 came with a mark, but it also came with a free bayonet so i was happy/

>>34979359
>>34979355
its an M91 made in tula, 1913 rebarreled on 1891 or 1892 (check tang) receiver. stocks been sanded, original varnish stripped, missing cap, wrong cleaning rod

i dont know, its neat and definitely more unusual than the common refurb 91/30 but not really collector grade, i probably wouldnt give more than $450 but i also dont really like mosins anyway.

actually now that i look at it again, it looks like a 91/30 stock >>34979422
>>34979367
notice its missing the recess that anon posted on his for the barrel band

check for import marks, maybe its a ww2 bringback?

>>34980853

my gramps gave me a neat jap ww2 bolt rifle that has a folding stock, im going to set it up similarly for hog hunting. the folding stock will make it easy to stow on the ATV and with the forend chopped down you wont even notice the burris red dot on the side mount weaver rail my gunsmith just installed

>>34982464

Dude, you should totally pull off the folding stock and put an M4 stock on it.

>>34980853
My uncle gave me his old Martini Henry he got some some kid during his travels in South Africa. Kid said it was passed down to him from his great great great grandfather. It was pretty long so I cut it down a bit and converted it to 308. Dropped it in this sweet archangel stock. Gonna take it out soon and bag some deer later.

>>34982121
The Chinese used the C96 (and local copies) heavily. So while that particular C96 may not be from the era, it was definitely a WW2 pistol.

>>34982448
>rebarreled on 1891 or 1892 (check tang) receiver
There's nothing in Anon's pictures to indicated that the receiver is older than the barrel.
>it looks like a 91/30 stock
With no sling slots or band spring slots it's definitely not a 91/30 stock or even a Dragoon stock. It's also too long to be a 91/30 stock.
>its missing the recess that anon posted on his for the barrel band
The step down in the stock is there; you can see the metal pin in the stock >>34979367 just forward of the step to keep the barrel band from sliding forward when it's tightened. It's just missing the very tip that goes inside the endcap.

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>>34982495
my uncle works at nintendo and when he was in russia for business the CEO of a graphic art company gave him this mosin nunchucks that stalin personallly made from lenin and trotskys hunting rifles

>>34979229
>Unconevrted M95
Anon you may have a unicorn on your hands

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>>34982517
>unconverted
I wish.

M.95 that remain in 8x50R are hardly rare though, merely uncommon.

8x56 isnt exactly cheap. how bad is 8x50?

>>34982541
Way fucking worse. At least 8×56 is still made.

>>34981021
How much are you selling the k98 for?
Also how much of a hassle is it to get a garand through the CMP?

>>34976963
Henlo rich boi
Helllo u STINKY RICH BOY
go eat a diamond ugly

>>34982546
.321" projectiles are way more common than .329", and you can make brass from x54R.

>>34982512

>Obrez nunchucks

My diiiiiiiick.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/686942946

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/686326777

>tfw got one for like $900 a couple of months ago

>>34982552
>Also how much of a hassle is it to get a garand through the CMP?
considering the alternative its about 1 day of your time getting shit together and mailing out the forms. The rest is waiting

Youre about 10 years too late though. There are still great Garands at CMP, but no where near the supply theyve had in the past.

>>34982541
Cheap as shit. You just have to make it yourself because no one else does.

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>>34982574
In the time it took you to type this post you could have educated yourself, but instead you chose to look the fool.

>>34982508
the finger rest was only made on mosins in 1891 and 1892, so the trigger guard/magazine components are either not original to the rifle or the receiver was rebarreled at an arsenal

you can clearly see in his pic the stock is missing the recess for the barrel band, and the "metal pin" you refer to is actually the hole for the nosecap screw

see the step in wood level where it gets skinny for the nosecap? on his the nosecap would cover that entire skinny part, where the M91 stock has an inch or so of the same diamter wood before the band and retaining metal pin area

good point about the sling slots. maybe its a finnish stock. i dont know, maybe its a M91 stock with rare features

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>>34982605
>>34982508

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Do you guys store your surp ammo in boxes or do you load them onto their >clips and store them that way? or just loose in a can or something.

Every surp I have is clip fed and the boxes/cans are taking up lots of space. Kind of want to just load everything at store it that way.

>>34982593
>I made a mistake on the internet

Oh no.

>>34982568
>http://www.gunbroker.com/item/686942946
nobody is going to bid on those overpriced auctions dude. fudds list their shit for $1,000 over market value all the time on gunbroker because they think their printed copy of blue book of guns is the ultimate authority on value

ljungmans can be had for $800-$1200 all day

>>34982643
those are the first ones ive even seen on gunbroker in a long while. They dont come up all that "often"

>>34982589
clearly not what I meant

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>>34977853
>Anyone else feel a rifle isn't complete without a sling? And for milsurp leather is the most aesthetic

Absolutely. I only have them on for M U H A E S T E I C S but its a necessity. Im not opposed to webbing, though. With some of the older ones the leather slings just dont really exist anymore. For example I have a reproduction leather sling on my GEW88/05 because good luck finding a piece of 127 year old leather that isnt garbage.

Need to snag one for my 1917 still.

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>>34982605
>the trigger guard/magazine components are either not original to the rifle or the receiver was rebarreled at an arsenal
They are not an integral part of the receiver; you can mount that triggerguard to any Mosin receiver made from 1891 to 1961. Far more likely that a rifle from 1913 was fitted with a stock from 1892 than that a receiver from 1892 was fitted with a barrel from 1913 but somehow not fitted with the sling slot upgrades or had the finger rest removed and the slot for it filled in.
>where the M91 stock has an inch or so of the same diamter wood before the band
No it does not; the end of the M91 stock steps down twice; once for the upper barrel band to abut against and once again to fit into the endcap.

>>34982635
Glad you learned your lesson.

>>34980853
Nice! My grandpa recently gave me the gun he brought back from WW2. I'm not sure what it is, it's kind of ugly and the magazine is on the left side for some reason. It's not too bad but seems like it's gonna be too heavy for hunting season. I'm gonna shorten the barrel and get rid of the big heavy wood on the front. I'm also gonna weld a picatany rail on the top so I can mount my favorite NcStar scope. Any tips /k/?

>>34982699

Chop the back of the stock off and put an M4 stock on it, that way you can shorten it more when you need to.

>>34982628
Clips in boxes

>>34982699
Sandblast the finish off and give it a chromed neon pink finish in case your gf wants to shoot it broh.

>>34982683

I'm considering taking the sling off my K31 because of how stiff it is.

>>34982683
What's that on the top right? Looks like an SKS but the bayonet cutout on the handguard is something I have never seen before.
Also what's the one below that?
Nice surps bro.

>>34982735
CZ-52
Could be a 52-57, but those are prooty hard to come by. You wanna buy mine? It's a bit more beat up, but shoots great.

>>34982735

Top right is Cz 52, Czech gun, has a side-folding bayonet too. Uses a round that's between the 7.62x54R and the 7.62x39.

No idea what the other one is.

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>>34982062
>nambu beside the grenade

>>34982643
uh did I fuck up not buying one for $500 three months ago?
I was buying my arisaka from the same guy selling it and didn't want to drop even more cash

>>34982780

If you want one then yes you did. If you don't want one then you kinda did.

>>34982671
It's just a bit of humor chief. Seriously though, it's pretty easy to make. Just form the cases from either x54r or 8x56r. >>34982745
How much you want for it?

>>34982735
That's a Spanish FR-8

>>34982793
I don't really have any interest in Swedish rifles. I'm more into Japanese and German stuff so I guess it's not too much of a loss. 6.5x55 isn't cheap to shoot up in Canada either, it's about $2 a round.

>>34982821
the canadian gun market is different than the us one. I imagine 500 was a good deal still though.

>>34982809
Not a whole lot, I got it for 500, but the ammo I got didn't work so great (so I'll throw a couple dozen rounds in free) and I don't feel like setting up to reload it. Pitch me a number. Mechanically flawless, but the stock is beat up, bayonet loose. Pics in a minute. (Cleaning it now, as it happens.)

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Ignore this

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>>34982780
>did i fuck up not buying something for 1/3rd its resellable value aside from the fact its incredibly badass and supremely built
you done fucked up son

>>34982692
>No it does not; the end of the M91 stock steps down twice; once for the upper barrel band to abut against and once again to fit into the endcap.
jesus fucking christ dude thats exactly what im saying. look at his own picture again, there is no step for the barrel band

here let me show you with ms paint.

anon's rifle on top, M91 on bottom. you can CLEARLY see they are not the same stock

>91/30 laminate, still in cosmo, with all accessories
>$210 shipped to me cuz C&R

Is it worth it?

>>34983049
I mean I guess so. Its a pos gun though.

>>34983049
>>34983049
is it your first mosin? if i didnt have one yet i would jump on that. what is your collection so far

>>34983049

Yes.

>>34982970
>there is no step for the barrel band
Yes there is. Note that the step down for the endcap involves a reduction in diameter from both the top and the bottom of the stock, but the step down for the barrel band comes only from the underside of the stock; there is no reduction from the upper side.

Furthermore, after the step down for the upper barrel band the cleaning rod still touches the underside of the stock, but after the step down for the endcap it doesn't contact the stock any longer, as you can see in your own pic there's space visible between the cleaning rod and the underside of the tip of the stock.

Conclusion: the very tip of the stock which fits into the endcap has been removed, either broken or cut off (possibly combination of both).

>>34983067
I don't have one anymore. Had a 91/30 and sold it to a friend because I just picked up a nice M39 and he wanted a Mosin. I have an M44, too. I have 35ish firearms in my collection.

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>>34976212
Congrats bro! .32 has become my absolute favorite caliber to shoot thanks to this little thing.

May you not scratch it when taking it apart like I did mine

>>34983094

I'll take your M44 for $215 and then you'll be ahead in the deal.

>>34983113
Wow thanks, friend!!

I actually just traded my more beat up mismatch M44 the other day, but I'm not letting go of my nice, matching one. If i couldn't get it traded I was gonna offer it up here for $225 shipped.

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Since we're talking about relatively obscure and very pleasant to shoot .32s...

>>34983131

Damn, I'd totally have taken that.

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>>34983137
I like the way you think

>>34983094
meh, you already have an M44 which is the most fun and practical of the cheap refurb mosin world. id just spend the $200 towards something you dont have yet. is your collection mostly C&R? do you have any mausers? would you realistically shoot your 91/30 over your M44? i too had a 91/30 that i sold because i had a M38 and M44, along with finnish M39s. get yourself a PU 91/30 instead. however i sold it for $100 and now they go for $200ish so if you are collecting as an investment i think they could still be a decent buy at $200

>>34982872
I'll give you tree fitty-400

would really like an m95 long rifle

>>34983821
Wouldn't we all?

>>34983821
Get in line

A long rifle would be awesome, but I'd have nowhere to store it. Luckily the M93 I'm getting seems to be a short rifle. Measuring at about 48 inches give or take.

>>34983094
Honestly, if you want a 91/30 again. 200 for a laminated stock ain't back. I got a 1926 made dragoon conversion for only 300 back in May. Refurb admittedly, but still.

>>34983902
*Ain't bad

>>34983821
Saw one at a gunshow a few months back. I had recently bought an M95 so im out of the market for one. But it was only 250, but pretty heavily bitched up. still. Theyre out there

>>34983994
if you passed on a m95 long rifle for $250usd you are a fool. you could have made a lot of money selling that fast

>>34983902
Where the fuck were you people when I had mosins to sell

>>34984029
>you could have made a lot of money selling that fast
Im collecting surp that I want, no hording surp to sell. Of course this makes me a massive faggot. but lube me up i dont care

>>34981671
Uptight, really? Seemed nice enough to me, they have super weird hours and we called and they let us come in and look around. I could see how they'd be super snooty though. Classic arms was real nice, and the guy helping was nice talking to him and he told me some war stories from nam. If I lived nearby, id spend way too much money there.
>>34983096
Did you scratch it while taking the barrel out? Because that seat in front of the hammer makes me nervous
>>34983137
>>34983154
They're beautiful

New thread
>>34984913

>>34983406
That's just about what I'm asking for it. Fair price, given the condition.

>>34971375
>>34971303
That's interesting, I thought they were. I have a gorgeous 1891 Argentine that I love to death

>>34972797
>trading with a gun store
Correct me if I'm wrong since I have never attempted this, but this seems like a good way to get ripped off. Stores won't take your offerings at a fair price because they need to resell it; you should sell to stores if you need money quickly and don't have time for a private sale.

How much would the M48 have cost you in cash?

>>34982495
I'll be honest, a 308 Martini sounds awesome

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Copped at a gun show for $200 today. Perfect bore. Spanish 1916 mauser in .308

>>34984100
Without money.

>>34985636
The one near pittsburgh?

>>34985636
Be careful

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Should I restore her?

>>34985790
Nope, indianapolis

>>34986023
y

>>34985547

About $400ish.