Is it bad I'm starting to dislike my AR

>>34631111
> Disliking the most generic rifle in existence

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>>34631111
sounds like your mind is already made up

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>>34631111
I said it's "much weaker" than 7.62x39, which is probably an exaggeration but .30cal is definitely a hard hitter, moreso than .223 fo' sho'
>>34631119
>it's good because it's generic
Maybe that's why I don't like it, look at my autistic ak lol
>>34631122
Not fully, that's why I asked you guys to convince me otherwise

>>34631111
>I don't like vanilla, Honda civics/Toyota Camrys, or Walmart brand T-shirts/pants
>I don't like the same, easy, boring thing over and over again

Wow. Turns out that you're like literally everyone with less than a nice sized car payment and their entire family pride invested in an AR.

Now. Go get that SMLE, a battle rifle, and maybe a '74 and call it a day.
Also, don't bother wasting your cash on a Glock. It's the same problem as an AR, but pistol form.

>>34631147
Fuck glock, unless it's like a 42 or 43 and even then ehh
Battle rifle is out of my budget range.. for now
AK74 is interesting but money is an issue yes, unless I ditch either the SMLE or pistol
Sorry I'm just saying random things that don't really concern you but I like to type my thoughts to organize them

>>34631111
> It's much weaker compared to the .30 cal AK round

Sell the AK for a pistol, stop being a retard.

>>34631218
I corrected myself already friendo >>34631129

>>34631231
>but .30cal is definitely a hard hitter, moreso than .223 fo' sho'

7.62x39 isn't like your daddies .30-06 durr gun

>>34631129
What top cover is that on the ak top handguard?

I have an AR because i'm poor as fuck and it covers all my potential defensive needs, is easy to shoot effectively, and is cheap to shoot.

However once I get enough money that I can start buying guns "for the hell of it" it will probably sit in a safe and only be brought out to have something easy for friends to shoot on.

ARs are good for anything man sized (and unarmored) under 300 yards, which makes them excellent civillian defense rifles, but they are boring as fuck to shoot. You aren't alone.

>ARs are boring
it's because you built yours that way
get a belt fed conversion and a slide Fire stock

>>34631245
Fuck off retard, 7.62x39 is objectively more damaging to the human body than 5.56x45. I never implied an intermediate cartridge is anywhere near a full sized rifle cartridge.
>>34631265
Khyber customs cheese grater, I'm kinda so-so on it right now. Gun show had a nice stock combo for $100 but I decided against it. Gonna keep the cheese grater for now.
>>34631282
Yeah, and I haven't even shot mine a ton yet. From dry firing/tactical house roleplay I've learned I just don't dig the mechanics of the gun so much.

>>34631298
Slide fire is a meme, I can probably bump fire just as well but I've yet to try

>>34631111
An AR can fill any roll you want it too, desu. Although, a well rounded person will have a nice firearm selection that pleases them. I've always found lever guns to be a blast to shoot.

>>34631300
>Fuck off retard, 7.62x39 is objectively more damaging to the human body than 5.56x45.

Based on you looking at the cartridges side by side and thinking "yep, that one is bigger" and nothing else. If you like it that's fine but don't act like every is stuck using a specific ammo type

>>34631300
>>34631378


Not always.
Yes the 7.62 is bigger, but it can also sometimes just pass straight through targets without any deformation. The 556 is just as guilty.

However, the 556 is carrying much more energy because of its speed. If this round tumbled or fragments, its going to fuck alot more shit up.
This round becomes ridiculously fucked to be shot with if you start using soft point ammo.

I have also seen hollowpoint 7.62 tula pass through entire gel blocks without so much as even a warp.

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>>34631111
>Convince my that I shouldn't ditch this POS for a pistol, since I currently don't own one.- 16 posts and 1 image reply shown.

This nigga is talking about practicality of an AR.

This nigga doesn't even own a fucking pistol to carry.

>>34631649
>implying I'm old enough to CC or even buy a pistol from anyone that isn't a private seller
Maybe that's why I don't have a pistol, maybe because I'm 19, I don't know maybe

It's not weaker. Mk262 and 75gr OTM/77gr TAP is better than any 7.62x39 ammo in existence at, essentially, anything. You have two choices of x39 ammo, M43 and M67. Neither are particularly good.

I also don't see any point in selling a gun. Just save a little longer.

>>34631673
>Maybe that's why I don't have a pistol, maybe because I'm 19, I don't know maybe

Then you should stop wasting your time arguing over the practicality of an AR and an AK, spending that time finding what you want from a private seller. After that, you can actually practice shooting your pistol for the next two years and maybe not be a huge sarcastic faggot about it.

>>34631709
>implying I can buy ammo

>>34631300
>Fuck off retard, 7.62x39 is objectively more damaging to the human body than 5.56x45. I never implied an intermediate cartridge is anywhere near a full sized rifle cartridge.
"WRONG"

If I was captured by terrorists and they gave me a choice between getting shot with an M4 and getting shot with an AKM before they dumped me in an alley in any generic major American city, I'd pick the AK every time. You are just plain less likely to die.

>>34631743
Show the clerk a picture of a highpoint carbine.

Or get a buddy to do it, you do have friends, right?

>>34631743
>>implying I can buy ammo
... Yes?

>>34631751
And why do you say this?

Any evidence or reasoning in particular?

>>34631767
>>34631784
This isn't helpful, just convince me the AR is good and useful

>>34631743
I bought 9mm ammo for my P226 I bought as an 18 year old all day everyday. How about quit being a lazy fag?

Oh who am I kidding, you'll just be one of those fags that don't carry but are quick to point out their super duper truck gun that they'll have at a moment's notice.

>>34631799
It works and is light. You can make it do literally anything.

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>>34631111
>waste of quads
>mentioning henrichs

> le red it spacing

>>34631111
nice quads but shit bait.

eat shit desu

>>34631809
Ok
>>34631825
AK works and is light
>>34631840
>implying you wouldn't eat out his ass
And what the fuck is "reddit spacing" kill yourself for force meme-ing on nicely formatted posts
>>34631842
No

>>34631798
I said wrong for a reason:
http://www.rkba.org/research/fackler/wrong.html

It's proven by live tissue studies (anesthetized pigs) that 5.56 is more lethal than 7.62x39 at almost all ranges (there's a small window where the 5.56's enhanced wounding mechanisms have deteriorated, but the AK's inferior external ballistics hasn't yet ensured the 5.56 bullet has superior penetration without enhanced wounding mechanisms, but it happens at ranges where you're unlikely to score hits with either rifle).
>>34631799
What do you need a gun for?

Home defence? More effective than a pistol or AK, lighter than an AK, still should probably should use a handgun...
WROL fantasies?
Grow up, get a small handgun.

Deer hunting? The fragmenting of military ball at short range is a bad choice for hunting, but the deer is less likely to run and die were you can't find it, and if you're willing to pay for bonded premium bullets, choices like the 75 grain Scirocco give you better exterior ballistics and greater effective range than even commercial 7.62x39.

Fun at the range? Subjective, but both guns can be fed with cheap steel case for 23¢pr.

>>34631934
>wrol
>grow up
Fuck off statist

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>>34631902
wew, hows that teen angst you flaming fucking faggot?

>>34631945
A concealed handgun is worth more than a select fire military rifle in a failed state situation. Just ask people who have lived though these things, like FerFal.

>>34631953
So you say to grow up, then you tell me what would be more effective in a situation like this??

>>34631751
hydrostatic shock

AR-10 Owner, and also M-4 user in the military.

Personally i find the 556 AR platform to be underwhelming, and you cant really hunt with it.

My Sig 716 is a blast to fire, shoots accurately far as fuck, and if i hunt game, im not going to tear it up.

Also if you're in the "muh tyranny" crowd, most military ballistic plates and helmets are good for 556 rounds, not so much for 7.62/308. Helmets are bullshit for bullet stoppage.

>>34631972
He's right. People see a fancy long gun and they will kill you for it. You want something you can hide in a belt or pocket.

It's time to stop posting, I'm feeling embarrassed for you.

.30 be it intermediate or full power is more practical for a civilian.

If your problem just with caliber you could get .300BLK upper. Ammo is more expensive but you get better bullet selection than 7.62x39.

>>34631799
Sell it if you don't like it. Are you trying to make this thread a pity party for your poorly thought out purchases?

>>34631972
You need to grow up and realize that your toy soldier fantasy is absurd, when/if society falls, you'll be better served with a concealable weapon like a handgun.

There, that's the fully spoonfed parsing of what you are mad about.

>>34632303
>>34632308
Go to hell

>>34631111
>19
>blows money on basic bitch AR
>"I'm already bored of it"
Literally fuck off to >>>/toy/

>>34631129
That's an ugly AK, jesus, get rid of that fagpul garbage please.

>>34631111
It's one thing if you own a nice Russian or Chinese AK...but other than that I feel like they are completely overrated...yeah they go bang every time you pull the trigger, but w/e maintain your battle implement. The best AK is inferior to a mid range AR in every fucking way. A decent AR is a laser with zero recoil under 200 yards...and lets be honest, if you are shooting beyond that you are going to want something other than an AK or an AR.

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>>34632060
>and you cant really hunt with it.
That explains why it's used for hunting so often then right. Bull Elk aren't the only game one encounters

>>34632061
Or you know, they won't bothered taking a risk against an armed opponent unless they're the type that goes around killing EVERYONE in which case it won't matter if you have a Derringer or a LAW

>>34631902
>AK works and is light
No it isn't. I own one. it is not light.

>>34632060
>and you cant really hunt with it.
77gr TAP
You're welcome

>>34631111
You should dump it.

Get a concealable handgun and support gear for it.

Carrying a handgun regularly is far more important than a .223 carbine if you are preparedness-minded.

>>34631111
no shit do you want to trade? I've got a Polish AKMS and i've been wishing I got an AR-15 instead. Don't get me wrong, I love my AK and it's awesome but I wouldn't mind have something soft recoiling so I could keep it on target. Also the 5.56 round can penetrate level 3 armor. I have been considering using it as a deer rifle but it's bulky and heavy and I want something I can carry around all day.

I paid 800 for it and it has less than 300 rounds through it. I bought the Reid-aid as well. I think Reid is a fanboy and I think his opinions are legit.

I'm also worried that the AK will actually be less reliable than an AR because of the inrange tv mud test.

Let's go out and shoot and pull eachothers dicks.

>>34635824
I was drunk when I posted this. Let me Clarify:

>I would trade you my 800 AK
>I wish I had bought an AR
>Nonetheless, I love my AK
>AR rifles are cool because you can stay on target because of low recoil
>the ammo can penetrate ammo
>I've thought about using this as a deer rifle or as a hiking companion
>it's heavy
>Reid is a fan boy
>Reid is entitled to his opinions
>lets meetup and shoot eachothers rifles, if you are happy with mine and i'm happy with yours we can trade and both leave happy, otherwise no obligation to exchange guns or semen.

>>34635869
>>34631111
i'm clearly too drunk for this thread but no shit if you want to trade for a solid AKMS with under 300 rounds with a NDS-1P receiver then send an email to [email protected] and i'll give you my real email, location, etc and we will work something out. I would really like a solid AR-15.

>>34631111
Go play with it at the range.

>>34631378
Not him but objectively speaking most people would probably consider the 7.62x39 a slightly better cartridge for light skinned medium size game like humans. at least inside of 200yds or so. Ballistically it's very similar to the 30-30 which enjoys a better reputation as a game round than 5.56 for a reason. It's moving sufficiently fast to do the same rifle-y wounding stuff that 5.56 does but heavier. It's true that the difference in velocity means that a same weight bullet moving at 7.62x39 speeds and 5.56x45 speeds would give the 5.56 speed round more energy for expanding/fragmenting.

However, IRL 7.62 tends to be slightly more energetic at the muzzle(~2100 vs 1750j), and it's increased mass gives it an edge with both reliably penetrating a living target deeply and punching through light cover while remaining effective. Particularly cinder blocks, auto glass, and cars come to mind.

>>34631378
>>34631629
>>34631683
>>34631751
>>34631934
>ITT people who think that 7.62x39 is a weaker cartridge than 5.56x45 because they compare fragmenting/expanding 5.56 only to basic bitch ball 7.62x39

>>34631111

keep it around as a utility gun, you can do a LOT of shit with it and 5.56 isn't going to dissapear anytime soon

7.62x39 on the other hand...

>>34636136
I compare it to basic bitch x39 ball because that's all that exists, you sperg. Wake me up when 7.62x39 Hornady TAP is a thing.

>>34631673
I'm 19 too, I've bought two pistols and sold one. I CC a J-frame because your faggot ass wouldn't think that a 19 year old even could.

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>>34631111
>It's much weaker compared to the .30 cal AK round
>implying roughly 150-200 ft·lbf is that significant between 5.56x45 and 7.62x39
>implying you can't load either 6.5 Grendel, .308, 7.62x39, or even your own wild cat rounds like 6.5x45

Other than that, if you really feel like you don't want it, you can just give it to your dad or trade it in for a pistol. ARs are a dime a dozen and you could easily make your own.

>>34636340
>he doesn't reload 7.62 with 210 grain powder coated bullets
>>34636405
a 19 year old is pretty much the only person I can see CCing a Jframe.

>>34636439
Fuck yeah dude it's great. My buddy is a capacity fag with a double stack CZ and we rib the shit out of each other all day.

>>34634243
Neither are groundhogs

>>34635824
>>34635869
>>34636005
>giving out your email on an anonymous hacker site
Thanks for the offer but no thanks

>>34631129
>I said it's "much weaker" than 7.62x39, which is probably an exaggeration but .30cal is definitely a hard hitter, moreso than .223 fo' sho'
it's called 300 meme out you shitposting faggot

>>34636136
>they compare fragmenting/expanding 5.56 only to basic bitch ball 7.62x39
> military ball to military ball, commercial soft point to commercial soft point
5.56 still wins because of exterior ballistics and the ability to buy quality bonded soft points in bullet weights suitable for OALs that work well in mags.

Wouldn't an AR to a 74 variant be an easier comparison? Even the the AR probably wins because of parts and ammo availability

>>34636825
Even then*

>>34636340
No.

Wake me up when you leave the year 2003.

>>34636803
there are current 7.62x39mm loadings that perform adequately. Hornady SST would be a good example but IIRC there are others and more are likely to be introduced in the future. also 5.56 only has a real advantage post 250m or so, much further than typical SD shootings.