Gear Queer Thread - /GQ/

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>>34609500
Next week I'm ordering a WASR from atlantic, 5 more steel mags, another type 81 chest rig, and another case of golden tiger.

Didnt see these mentioned in any of the pasties
so, can /gq/ recommend me a good set of shooting gloves that wont wear out in a year?

>>34609693
With heavy use all gloves will fail, funny enough though the gloves that held up the best for me was nomex flight gloves, the only time they got serious damage was being in the desert and baking in the sun, they hardened up. With a few washes they are back to normal. Shrunk only a little. Survived a few years.

>>34609625

What sidearm?

>>34609724
No the poster but looks like a sig p226 or a variant

>>34609724
>>34609764
P229
Not picking up another one considering it's the cost of everything else I just listed alone. I don't even carry it anymore unless I'm hiking, I prefer my P2000SK to cc.

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>op serious Viking 2 cancelled until another field can be found
>guardian centers literally a couple of hours from my house
>tfw probably can't go if I have to take more than a day off
>tfw can't try out this Gucci gear

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The steel debate is over, now the front plate only debate begins!
>>34609693
Nomex, leather driving gloves, Dye some deer skin working gloves into a color that isn't piss yellow.

>>34609693
Try growing a pair of balls and using your hands like a man. Grow some calluses, let that leather toughen up. Hope whatever gloves you choose match your purse, don't want your hands getting to rough for when you beat off your boyfriend.

Where is a good place to get reasonably priced plates, lvl 3/4?
Also is the Shellback Low Vis PC durable ?

>>34609948
kek, ive been bodybuilding for about 3 years now and my hands are tough as hell, however, i live in a very humid environment and i want to keep my AK's from rusting where i touch them alot.
>>34609896
>>34609718
Thanks guys, ill look into these. /gq/ is still a general worth lurking.

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>>34609625
Why are you getting another rifle when your gear is so minimalist as it is? Arming a significant other or friend? Also what WASR? Make sure to go talk to /akg/ because there are some crap AKs out there.

>>34609693
It is hard to get a good pair that isn't expensive.

>>34610015
Do you want ceramic level IVs? Why are you considering level III plates?

Shellback Tactical made a decent name for themselves with the original Banshee. Their website has been down or in a state of repair for the past three months or some shit, so that says a lot about how capable of a company they are. The newer Banshee isn't as highly regarded as the older one, and the 2.0 honestly looks a bit lame for the price. Old design, no special features really. They also are charging $200 now for the patriot, and just 4 months ago before they redid the website the patriot was $160? I hate companies that pull that shit.

The Low Vis carrier looks decent. Probably would work fine. Shellback isn't shit by any stretch. But consider the other slick options out there, Ferro Concepts etc.

>>34610120
New build WASR 10, they're pretty good quality IMO. AKG a few years ago suggested I get an NPAP, and now where am I?

Arming a family member or friend, whatever happens when SHTF I want to arm more than myself with gear more complex than "here's a mossberg gl".

It's basically everything I have now, but with a wasr instead of another npap.

>>34610120
>Do you want ceramic level IVs? Why are you considering level III plates?
I would prefer Ceramic IV, thanks on Ferro.

>>34609948
Yeah man, all you need is calluses to protect you from that hot barrel, sharp rock, or thorny plant! You go girl!
>>34610120
>Make sure to go talk to /akg/ because there are some crap AKs out there
>WASR
>The most common and recommended AK in /akg/, make sure to ask them for the millionth time about WASRs!
Phenomenal.

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>>34609500
describing all my gear purchases senpai

>>34609500
they gave this nigga a lot of celox

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>>34609693
outdoor research FR silencer gloves

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>>34610804
Not really tho when you think about it

>>34610873
I like this, not as much as glockass

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I have a med package inbound tomorrow, but only med gear queers will drool over it. So most of you wont.

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>>34610003
Is that the Border Patrol LBT overrun from Ebay?

>supreme
kek

>>34610922
Only because I could walk into any CVS or pharmacy and grab everything in a med kit for half the price and throw it in a pouch, side pocket of a backpack, etc.

In my opinion half the stuff in a med kit isn't needed anyway. Tweezers and needlenose, scissors, compression wrap, gauze, triple antibiotic ointment, alcohol swabs, and maybe some benadryl.

>>34610922
idk a pack of celox gauze, the celox applicator, what looks like a pack of celox granules, seems like a lot of shit that mostly all does the same stuff

where his tourniquet, chest seals, NPA, chest dart at

>>34610968
>Only because I could walk into any CVS or pharmacy and grab everything in a med kit for half the price and throw it in a pouch, side pocket of a backpack, etc.

>In my opinion half the stuff in a med kit isn't needed anyway. Tweezers and needlenose, scissors, compression wrap, gauze, triple antibiotic ointment, alcohol swabs, and maybe some benadryl.

is this bait?

>>34610935
>Border Patrol
>Mas Grey
Pick one

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Basically everything in my Amazon cart ever

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>>34611039

>>34610968
Well I have no idea what your taking about. You could make an IFAK at a CVS. But they dont have packages built for combat. IE. their gauze package will get ruined in about 2 seconds. I dont understand what you think you don't need in an IFAK either. The kit I showed is pretty much the known "minimum" with the exception of one or two things.

>>34611015
Yeah Idk where the NPA chest seals, etc. are. Who knows. Maybe the TQ was on an outside pouch or something. Yeah i agree that shit is missing. Either way, considering he got rekt, he needed that celox I guess. But yeah he should totally have that other shit. Didnt even notice that at first.

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>>34611051
Last one

>>34611074
>But they dont have packages built for combat. IE. their gauze package will get ruined in about 2 seconds
Throw it in a ziplock before you put it in whatever pouch or pocket if you're afraid of it getting wet. Otherwise I don't know what you're talking about.
>>34611015
>is this bait?
I think he means that's all you need, not that it isn't needed. Outside of maybe some gloves, celox and antibiotics this basically hits the nail on the head. His list is literally my hiking first aid kit without the celox.

>>34611278
>I think he means that's all you need, not that it isn't needed. Outside of maybe some gloves, celox and antibiotics this basically hits the nail on the head. His list is literally my hiking first aid kit without the celox.

it also has nothing useful to treat a chest wound that compromises airway.

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>>34610935

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So I have an autistic ghana rig I want to do.
I have a 6094 with a kangaroo pouch and I want flaps over it. So I want 3 of any basic flap that has male velcro on the back side and "pull" side and *IF* possible female velcro on the opposite side from the male velcro on the "mount" side.

So in the kangaroo from plate side to front side it goes female male mags female male. I'm trying to fit the mount side of the flaps between the female and male velcro of the kangaroo pouch wall and lbt insert thing.

Are there any cheaper pouches with removable pouches with really long velcro strips and if possible the female velcro on the oppostie side. If not I'd just have to sew it on but either way I checked out a lot of Eagle pouches and a lot of them aren't removable despite the fact I have Eagle (possibly Canadian ripoff) pouches with removable flaps but need them for something else.

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>>34611908
flap coming off

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>>34611916
flap.

>>34611293
>to treat a chest wound that compromises airway
It's a basic first aid kit for normies, I wouldn't know how to perform a tracheostomy, nor would I attempt one. I know CPR and basic first aid, which is all 95% of hikers and such know.

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>>34610571
Budget for plates?
Budget for carrier?

This is the best deal in legit level IV ceramics right now AFAIK. HESCO single curve 10x12"s around 8lbs per plate, $260 shipped:
http://www.gideontactical.com/store/product.aspx/productId/31390/Hesco-Level-IV-10-x-12-Stand-Alone-Armor-Plate-Single-Curve-NIJ-06

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Hol up, are Oakley SI Assault/Pilot gloves really one of the worst gloves on the market? I kinda want to buy a pair just for kicks, but I doubt the quality of their gloves because my Flexions fell apart after two months of use.

>>34612488
The carbon fiber knuckles are just fetish fuel.

what are some /k/ related haircuts?

>>34612744
Hime cut, naturally.

>>34612488
They're really stiff, I can't tell if I should've ordered a size up but that's stupid

Does anyone have a low profile 4 point harness for belts to recommend? Something like >>34612459
preferably on a budget.

>>34612744
just buzz it down to 1/8" every couple of weeks

>>34614095
yeah this length, every payday as a reminder. I've posted this before: keeps allergens off. i shave everything else because it makes bugs less difficult to find

i buzzed without the guard every Monday when i was active duty to keep NCOs away

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What cobra belt could you recommand (mostly as an inside battle belt, but could also be used as a civilian conceal-carry belt)?
It should have a thin enough male part for normal trousers loops, a D-ring (separate, not like the 5.11 climbing stuff), not be camo (for civilian use), and be rigid enough for holding a holster tightly

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>>34610922
>only med gear queers will drool over it
what did you get senpai?

don't tell me it's Naloxone

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>>34614081
ATS suspenders are $13 and I've been "using" mine for over a year.

Alice suspenders are also out there. Find someone who knows Alice gear, some suspenders after certain dates are more comfortable or something.

Yeah the plates I linked are going to be some of the cheapest legit ceramics out there right now. HESCO is the real deal.

>>34614480

you had me at $13, thanks bruh

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Does anyone have an opinion on a BaoFeng UV-5R as a starter radio?

https://www.amazon.com/BaoFeng-UV-5R-Dual-Radio-Black/dp/B007H4VT7A/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1500651478&sr=8-3&keywords=baofeng+uv5r

Anyone own a SA83 chest rig? How are they? I was gonna get a D3cr eventually but I want to grab something for the short term

>>34614557
i have two, they work, they are durable, i have used them over 2.5 miles, the good batteries can last days, they are fine in the rain.

it costs $20 dude just buy one.

literally the only downside is you have no one to talk to and thus no reason to use it and its not gucci so you cant brag about it.

i only get to use mine at /k/ meets and airshit games

>>34614480
Reeee, ejection port open.

Why would you put it on the ground if you're leaving that shit open?

>>34614581
Yeah, they're alright
But a d3 isn't that much more, why not just save up for like a week or two?

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>>34614581
i owned one and i traded it, i ordered one from the kommando store yesterday because they had a "serviceable " grade one that wasn't an autistically high price.

personally i prefer a type 81 chicom as far as comfort goes. the SADF chest rigs are made with a really rough nylon material that feels like sand paper on my skin and the shoulder padding is bulky and uncomfortable. I have found it to do the opposite of its intended purpose. On the other hand it can hold 9 AR mags and will basically hold any mag you want to put in it. I used mine a good bit, the guy i traded it to uses it alot and i have a bunch of buddies who have them.

they are great if you are getting them for cheap. they are not worth more then $50 at the most.

>>34614608
This is true, my only gripe with the D3 is that it only holds 4 mags. Is that enough? I think I'd like to roll with 6. How is the D3 plus flat pack setup?

>>34614623
Thanks for the breakdown man, I just want to have some gear just in case. So far all I have is my AR and 229, which still needs a holster.

>>34614641
There are tons of arguments about double stacking mags and shit, so I won't go into it, but if you want 2 more just through them on a belt.

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>>34614641
they have a velcro thing that adds two mags to the back of the d3. what i dont like is the new d3s have 4 pistol pouches and the removed the elastic bungie pocket.

but think of it like this. if you need 6+1 then you can wear two belt mounted and four in the chest rig or 6 in the rig with the velcro on deal.

>>34614643
yeah man if you just need a durable throw around rig for carrying mags and medical and water and shit the SA83 chest rig is fine. it has features that some people prefer to cheaper chest rigs like the chicom. I prefer how slim and simple the chicoms are. I can carry 8 mags in my type 81 chicom and i don't need to fuck around with other pouches. but the SADF rigs are nice and i enjoyed mine and i have had friends who only own it say that its working great for them.

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>>34614598
Rifle is also on fire.

>>34614682
Is double stacking mags on a chest rig or on the outside of a carrier really that bad?

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>>34614623
>I used mine a good bit
>i have a bunch of buddies

>>34614712
Really depends, for 99% of us, no. For real dudes, could be. The lower you can get to the ground the less likely you are to get shot. Also have to take into account the weight pulling down on the front vs the back. You want to keep things as balanced as you can.

>>34614724
i did use it and my friends are all from /k/ and airshit and highschool. i am not claiming to be some nonautist

>>34614700
I've seen the Velcro on thing, but that adds alot up front, putting two on the belt sounds solid and simple, should I invest in a battle belt for that or just throw them on my Cobra belt? Also, do you know of some good duty holsters for the 229? I don't have a light yet but I'll probably put one on because it seems like a good idea. Damn this gear shit adds up quick lol

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>>34614738
i'm just teasing takbir-anon

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>>34609693
depends on how hard you run your shit.
but I got with PU nylon gloves and welding driver gloves
https://www.amazon.com/SAFETY-9669M-Coated-Nylon-Glove/dp/B00O98LKA8/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1500651011&sr=8-5&keywords=pu+coated+gloves

https://www.weldingoutfitter.com/collections/revco-gloves/products/revco-17-top-grain-elkskin-elastic-wrist-drivers-style-gloves?variant=20410224454

>>34609896
ar500 will always be debated
because it's the optimal choice ;^)

>>34611908
AWS has some universal mag pouches if that's what you're asking for, they did the same thing with the velcro.

>>34614557
they're decent radios

>>34614581
what >>34614623 said

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>>34614765
there is a much cheaper and low profile way of carrying two mags.

i have a two of these
http://www.skdtac.com/Ready-Tactical-AR15-Mag-Pouch-p/rdt.110.htm

i bought them when they were on sale and i use an ares ageis ridged belt

>>34614786
:^)

Anyone here have an esee junglas? Do they carry it as part of their kit or would you rather have a hatchet?

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Hello /gq/, excuse the question from an ignorant normie, but what do you call this thing?

I'd like to purchase one but I have no idea what to search for.

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>>34614862
it's fuck huge, I would never carry it on my person. i have an esee 4 that i carry when i go backpacking and wear on my plate carrier.

the junglas is a like tripple thick machete. It's really good for what its for which is cutting brush in tropical rain forests. the ESEE school and their knives were designed for jungle shit. its really more of something you would strap tot he side of your pack. if i was in temperate woodland i would rather have an axe preferably a full sized axe. in the jungle a machete is better and the junglas is a heavy and short machete.

>>34614898
It's an admin pouch

https://www.uktactical.com/p-4476-warrior-large-admin-panel-with-pouch-coyote-tan.aspx

>>34614926
I've been looking at getting the 4, do you carry a folding saw or anything with it in case you have to process wood?

>>34614898

Admin pouch.

>>34614958
when i am backpacking i carry a esee 4, a bahco laplander folding saw, and sometimes a mid length hatchet

when i am car camping i bring a full sized axe instead of all that shit.

>>34614898
called an admin/annex pouch.

http://www.lapolicegear.com/tg-191086-annex-pouch.html

i got u nigga.

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i just bought what looks to be a brand new m17 gas mask with all of the shit for $25


>>34614999
nice digits

Is a plate carrier necessary or am I good with just a chest rig? I ask because I'm a poorfag ATM and don't have any gear yet

>>34614947
>>34614967
>>34614999
Thank you anons!

>>34615132
it's personal preference. if you don't think you are going to get shot at ever. then there isn't any point buying or wearing body armor. If you think you are gonna get shot at but want to trade the weight and mobility for some protection then sure.
most people have them because its cool and they can brag and show it off. There are people on these threads that think a plate carrier is a magic talisman that makes them immune to small arms fire. the reality is that you are just as likely to get shot in the face, guts, arms, legs,ect as you are right on the plates. And getting shot in the face or thigh with a rifle is going to be just as fucksville for you as taking a chest shot.
one argument is that is increases your chances of not dying in a home defense situation.

there is a lot of back and forth and it really comes down to what do you personally think you need for your situation and wh

How are g-codes duty holsters? Are there better ones out there?

>>34615179
and what you want because its fun and cool*

>>34615179
Thanks for the breakdown lad, I know they have PC mounted hydration carriers, how do people using just a rig carry hydration comfortably?

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>>34615229
camelbak

sometimes they have like integrated hydro carriers with chest rigs. like the haley d3cr has the flat pack that can hook into it and be the hydro carrier. I personally wear a chicom and either my alice pack (which has a fuck load of water in it) or a camel bak

>>34614712

I have a double mag carrier that carries 4 mags total, I'm thinking about using it on my belt rather than on my pc/chest rig. I've tried it out on the belt and it works great without getting in the way if I go prone.

Gotta figure out how to carry pistol mags now though.

What are some good "tactical"/ camping pants/shirts on a budget? No cryes for me just yet

>>34615520
5.11

>>34615182
I just got mine in last week. If you can stand the wait (mine was 9 weeks), its a nice holster. I feel like a safariland does the job just as well if not better and you can get it quicker. What sidearm?

>>34615591
229 legion, probably gonna throw a x300 on there because that seems to be the go to light

>>34615531
Are they alright for hot and cold weather?

>>34615531
Consider suicide

>>34615520
If you're already set on eventually owning cryes don't buy shit just to hold youraelf over. You're essentially throwing money away. Just save up a little bit longer.

>>34615520
Roman Kurmaz on FB.

Makes quality repro cryes

>>34615695
Aren't there two different versions? One is a bit cheaper if I recall, the g3's I think.

>>34615695
stop shilling

>>34615674
Buy shorts.
But most of their pants are designed around dress pants, not multicam tactitard $800 oper8r apparel.
So maybe not, but in all likely hood you'll be fine.
>>34615695
>have you ever been so gay that you combined the gayness of shilling and tripfagging?
>yes

>>34615706
There are the older gen ACs, can be had used for fairly inexpensive. The G3s are the newer gen and tend to be more expensive. There are others but they are way more expensive and I won't get into them.

>>34615695
>on a budget
>5.11
there's nothing wrong with that. they make good stuff.

>>34615666
Might have to go safariland or alien or someone else then. Not sure how if they offer a 229 with light.

>>34615792
>>511
>Will melt to you
>shitty stitching
>shitty velcro
>shitty almost haloween costume level polyester material
>>Crye
>Will not melt to you
>Wonderous Made in USA stitching
>beautiful golden velcro
>Glorious 50/50 nyco folded over 5000 times

Right. Totally.

>>34615839
In defense of anon you're also looking at a few hundred dollar price difference.

It's like comparing a Camry to a Lamborghini murcialago

>>34615856
there's a reason he didn't qoute or refer to the "on a budget" part: it doesn't fit his narrative.

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>>34615856
Like this guy will ever bring his overly expensive gucci cryes to the point of failure or getting any use of the no melt/drip feature lmao.

>>34614480
Gear noob here, just to be sure i understand everything is that suspenders + a "battle" belt + some molle accessories ?

>>34615835
>Safariland
Is there a "best" model, they have a metric shit ton lol

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>>34615916
You're 100% correct

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>>34615960
>going outside = hard use
wow so impressed

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If you were setting up a chest rig for light innawoods and range use would you go closed top or open top mag pouches?

I bought a Blue Force Gear Rackminus and I already own a ten speed triple shingle, but I'd really rather go with three Double M4 pouches. What would you go with?

>>34610873
Is that a woodland Partizan harness? Where the fuck did you get that?

>>34615953
The real trick is trying to use their holster locator to figure out what they make for what you have. Unless its a glock its a pain. As far as best, for what? You want a hood? Do you want a locking system with a thumb break?

Best is to just use the holster finder on the site and try to narrow down what actual options you have.

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>>34615999
You're going to have to keep goalposting son, I can shitpost all day

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who hard use here

>>34616078
I still have mud stains in my knee pads and 5.11 shorts from a two day pistol Memorial Day weekend where it rained for all of the class except about an hour the send day.
How do I get them out?

>>34616138
oxyclean

>>34616060
>>34616078
>>34616115
wow you rolled in the mud a bit! bbwars sure got tough lately!

>>34615743
When it comes to buying expensive pants and shirts like that, how many pairs do you buy? 2 or 3?

Wow you deployed in your pants and laid around a cop and sat in humvees a bit! War sure got tough lately!

>>34615520
Consider helikon tex. Their pants are pretty good and they also stock polycotton shirts now.
>>34615916
65% polyester can be sweaty (helikon uses 40 poly/60 cotton btw). Though I sure hope cryguy never had to test the melting part.

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>>34616060
>not 2010 version
;^)
enjoy your mass produced garbage

>>34616242
:( y u do dis to me

(((enjoy your pants tearing at the seams when you squat)))

Best battle belt for 2 gun comp.

Go.

>>34616259
I really want a pair of the modern Cryefire M81s in all honesty. The fabric was changed for a reason. Mine are already patchwork, which is cool in it's own way, but I would like to have some to actually wear.

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Updated a few things, re-located some items, upgraded to Gen 7 CAT.

>>34612459
Around 300 per plate, bout the same for carrier.

I've been looking at this carrier, haven't really found any reviews about it.
https://www.chasetactical.com/shop/warrior-assault-systems-covert-plate-carrier-mk1/
thanks for the plate link.

>>34612031
He means a sucking chest wound that would collapse a lung ie: gunshot or stab wound.

Just pack a space blanket with your shit and a roll of surgical tape.

>>34616570
Can you list out your shit? Sorry, just need to compare some stuff and see where I'm lacking.

>>34609693
I've had a pair of mechanix since I was 16 and I've used them in the field and ranges and stuff

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does my poorfag competition set counts?

>>34617567
you should paint your rifles lower

>>34617314 Sure thing. I change this around depending on new things I learn while training, or based on larp mission.

1st Line IFAK (Belt)
> Chest Seals
> Gauze
> Combat Gauze
> Gloves
> Sharpie
> Needle Decomp.
> NPA w/lube
> Sheers
> Duct Tape
> CAT TQ (On outside)

2nd Line (Chest Rig)
> Guaze
> CAT TQ
> Misc boo-boo/basic medications

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Rate my setup

>>34609500
I need a yoke for my belt, anyone recommend a decent brand. i would prefer it have be coyote but its not necessary.

ive checked out british tactical but im looking for something state sides. opinions?

>>34617784
no gun, no matching red lipstick not even trying to be a comy/10

>>34617399
Current-production Mechanix gloves suck.

Whats the difference between the Crye G3 and the Crye G3 All Weather ?

Is the all weather thicker or something? Like good to go in the snow? Or is the difference something else?

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Watch this. I'm going to trigger /GQ/ to the point of no return.

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>>34617857

>>34617878
OK, it's some Condor shit.
What do you want, a cookie?

>>34617857
>>34617878
i mean its better then going full geek and making a molle/pals chest rig purely out of duct tape... though someone should try that asap.

>>34617857
Is that the OPS Chest Rig?
Is it as shitty as /k/ says?

>>34617899
Nah. I just needed a (you)

>>34617911
It's condor shit. I just bought it for holding mags and nothing else.

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>>34617857
>>34617878
i see what you did there

>>34617935
That's basically what i want to do with my chest rig just hold 2 mags and a few light stuff so i'm thinking buying condor shouldn't be too bad since it won't be subjected to much force.

>>34617970
dont buy the one with elastic straps to hold mags in. its fucking annoying to get mags to go in feed lips down as they catch on the elastic,

>>34617986
I was think the OPS Chest Rig with Taco pouches

>>34617616
Thanks man, looks great. I think I've got the bare necessities but I'm considering a supplemental IFAK to cover down on some things I'm missing, mostly a big H-Bandage.

>>34617837
G3AW are made entirely out of durastretch tweave material, ie the fabric used on the knee stretch portions. I've worn a pair of RG ones for over two years now and they are good to go.

>>34617804
Yoke or Suspenders? Tactical Tailor and SORD make great yokes.

>>34617837
To answer your question more specifically though, they are softshells, but not shells. They WILL wet through very quickly in rain or snow unless they are brand new or you reapply DWR coating. If you don't, they still dry fairly quickly and wick sweat away better than 50/50 NYCO.

They allow a decent amount of airflow through, at least in my experience, but somehow they also stay pretty warm in the winter. I don't understand it myself. When Crye calls them "all weather" they mean it, I am perfectly fine wearing my pair in any season.

>>34618038
i have no experience with the ops rig. I like tocos, not everyone here does.

>>34618054
yoke im looking to mount a hydration pack on it.

>>34618100
Yeah, in addition to tactical tailor and SORD Tyr also makes a good yoke in the form of their COMA system.

I gotta be honest that's all I know of though, not many manufacturers bother with those kind of systems.

>>34618094
Thanks, it's a bit more clear now, would you say it's worth the 100$ more?

>>34618170
Yes, but only if you have another pair of pants to wear 90% of the time. They aren't fragile at all, but the more you wear them (and wash them) the more the DWR coating breaks down and the more the stretch fabric "piles" at the crotch. It's purely aesthetic, but kind of annoys me.

All pants will wear at the crotch but on a pair of 310$ pants you're a little more conscious of it

>>34618257
thanks i'll keep that in mind

>>34610003
>supreme
Faggot

I just got an MS2000 strobe, how do I attach velcro to the back of it? I'd like to mount it to a helmet.

For someone just getting into gear what should my priority be? Should I worry about buying shit in a certain order?

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>>34615925
ATS War Belt
ATS suspenders
Bunch of pouches and shit.

If I were to do it again I would have simply coughed up the dosh up front for the HSGI Sure Grip belt and suspenders.

>>34615960
Where is this?

>>34616012
My philosophy at this point is that there are fast mag pouches, and slow ones. Doesn't matter what kind of slow one, doesn't matter what kind of fast one. Comes down to personal preference. What does matter is your placement of fast vs. slow pouches, and how many of each.

>>34616710
Oh cool another slick option. Thanks for your link! Warrior Assault is good to go. There are other slicks out there of course though, and some carriers that aren't slick, but that aren't super heavy duty patrol. I just got a Velocity Systems LWPC, and there is the Jumpable of course as well.

Yeah those HESCOs are definitely a solid deal. I kinda wish I hadn't gotten my Armour Wears and instead gotten those. Would have saved $20, and gotten more legitimate plates. I guess I save 1.6lbs total and the Armour Wears are multi curve technically.

>>34618554
Mags, water, IFAK. Chest rig or belt, then carrier.
Sling and light obviously for weapon.

>>34618488
>Get Velcro square.
>Get Shoe Goo.
>Combine all items togther.

>>34618554
If you aren't military or LEO, this is all for imaginary operating autism, there is no "wrong" order. I'd lean towards getting a shooting belt first, because it holds your pistol and can holds the barebones of rifle and shotgun ammo. You can then jump off from there and keep the belt light while adding a chest rig, or you can turn the belt into an LBE with suspenders if you got a battle or pistol belt. A tactical belt has a place in all shooting setups.

>>34616383
I'll trade ya mine for ya Fleck cryes ;)
>>34618605
Khandahar province

No jk it's Four Peaks, Arizona.

>>34618627
Cool, could you recommend some good ones? I already have a Cobra belt to run through it

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>>34614623
>>34614738
Takbir

>>34611293
how is this useful to normies?

I'm under the assumption these kits are for shtf, in which case the golden hour doesn't apply and a sucking chest wound is gg because you'll only be prolonging the inevitable.

For .Mil or Leo, then they already have it supplied and have received the training so it's not even a conversation.

>>34609500

>drunk gear purchases edition

I bought a lensatic compass on eBay while drinking once. I don't regret that at all though.

>>34609693

I like hatch. This pair has lasted the longest of any glove I've tried, even around concertina wire and armored/tactical vehicles.

https://www.amazon.com/Hatch-HMG100FR-Fire-Resistant-MechanicS-Glove/dp/B0042E2VIE/ref=sr_1_36?ie=UTF8&qid=1500684742&sr=8-36&keywords=hatch+gloves

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>>34614557

They're fine.

I went all out and dropped $500 on some encrypted comms when I was hog hunting in Texas. The problem is, who the fuck are you going to talk to?

Just be sure to get a decent shoulder mic for the baofeng and you'll be gtg.

>>34614208
I've been using tactical tailor. I'm not autistic enough to use it for civvie shit, but I used it to securely hold an m9 in place with and without a holster during cc operations for 9 months daily in the sandbox. Still works great today.

>>34619056
Spot the guy who's never been to a public range.

>>34615520

Military surplus ACUs in OCP/multicam.

Ebay is your friend.

>>34619127

Were you also disappointed by how floppy the TT cobra belt was?

>>34614557
Yup. Haven't really used them as much more than a glorified walkie-talkie, but if you need to talk to someone that isn't too far away, they work well.
>>34614589
>2.5 miles
Good to know. I assumed it was 1 mile max.


Also, they're cheap enough that you can buy a second one, or a friend might buy one because they're so affordable. So finding someone to use them with might be as simple as having a friend and a couple extra bucks.

>>34614712
I have three singles on front and a 2x2 on the 2 o' clock (lefty) so it doesn't interfere with me getting low. However, I always hate reloading from it because the elastic of the double stack makes it hard to fit the empty back in.

Not an issue if you plan to just dump mags on the floor then go back for them later, but sometimes the enemy doesn't really give you an option and when you spent hours going through the armory to finally find 7 mags that are gen2 with the extra guide springs so they don't jam, then you really don't want to be throwing those away to play scavenger hunt in the armory.

This is mitigated if you 1. have a dump pouch, I never used one so idk if this is actually a solution
2. Don't use elastic double stack mag pouches but individual ones on top of each other 3. Don't give a fuck and have tons of magazines you can no questions asked get back and coc doesn't care if you lose them.

They usually get pissy because they think there's this chance you left a fully loaded magazine for kids to play with, kill themselves, and blame Americans.

>>34618820
is that you jones?

>>34619129
I never see people wearing plates at the range. It's not fudd, just older demographic of retired mil and Leo. No one is hip enough to wear them.

is it like a normal socially acceptable thing to wear plates at the range? I'm all for train as you fight, just, I couldn't respect myself for revealing my power level so obnoxiously.

>>34619291
i would never wear plates to a range first time, that said unless you care about being a dork for wearing more ppe. who gives a shit?

>>34618653
I agree with the anon you're replying to. However, my personal order would be:
Holster
Belt
Magazine holders/ pouches
Ifak- only reason this isn't first is I'm assuming you're at a public range (who will have medical supplies), or already have a 1st aid kit in your car/home range. If you don't have a first aid kit in your car, reevaluate your life prior to buying a gun.
electronic ear protection
Multitool
Fixed blade
Gucci light source
Chest rig OR Plate carrier w/ plates- extra Gucci points for putting the two together
Admin pouch (gotta store your high speed crayons and cigarettes)
At this point you're probably beyond normie status and want to go full gq, so get a high speed hydration system
Commo- lol we know you don't have friends
Glow sticks/ signalling devices to look high-speed with but never use. Because you're still trying to justify how expensive your Gucci light source was.
IIIA+ helmet
$200+ ear protection
Night vision, you're so deep now just drop 6k on it
IR strobe to put on helmet
IR weapon illuminator/lazoooor- bonus points if its not the 8k new civilian one but a liberated .Mil one
M1a1 sep2 Abrams OR ifv of Slavic origin if you're a poorfag
GoPro to record your antics

Your gq quest is now complete

>>34619477
I'd put multitool and Gucci light source at the top since they're incredibly useful IRL and not just for LARPing.

>>34619341
Someone who just wants to shoot his ccw, it's counter productive then for me to wear my plates.

Granted, I get plenty of training in them involuntarily, so I could see .civ wearing them to justify their purchase, better than just larping in the basement.

>>34619528
Yeah i started just viewing this as actually useful for the range then just went to memes after that.

>>34619272
You best be saving them shekels for MSW nigga.

>>34618605
Good to know Warrior A, is reputable enough to be known then, I've been leaning toward it for my needs if i pull it I'll drop my thoughts on it in another thread if I do. Thanks on the HESCO link too again. Ya'll take care.

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>>34619291
He isn't saying that plates are common to wear at the range, but rather that public ranges are so dangerous it makes plenty of sense and one would have plenty of reason to wear plates to the range.

>>34619477
Well shit at least someone is paying attention.
>extra gucci for putting the two together
Noice. Pic related. This was a huge priority of mine for my most recent gear purchase.

>>34619528
I just lost my Leatherman.

>>34619775
Yeah and if you want another carrier option check this out:
http://store.atarmor.com/product_p/lwpc.htm
I bought their last one in Multicam and I'm happy with it so far.

Also for the Anon who was wondering, ATarmor is good to go. Decent guys.

>>34620046
>Also for the Anon who was wondering, ATarmor is good to go. Decent guys.
Thanks

>>34611908
check spiritus systems their half flap/full flap might solve that issue

>>34620258
Holy shit this is almost exactly what I'm looking for. Gonna email them for better pictures / description. Thanks.

>>34610935
Anyone got the full pic of this?

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performed an autopsy. Some things are in the process of being replaced. Some things are being added. Ill do the pack set up sometime at a later date.

>>34609500
Why do I feel like that pic is from a dead/captured ruskie?

>>34620787
because it is from a dead ruskie

>>34620787
>suppressed AK74 that's been dragged through a Zenitco catalog
>maybe it's from a Russian

>>34619123
How do you draw mags with pistol in the way

>>34620732
>center bottom
Is that one of those "hold up, I'ma jam this fucking alien dick in your brain through your nose" things?

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>>34621100

They clear it fine, it's more rigid when there's a human inside the plate carrier, giving it more clearance than it appears sitting on the ground.

Also, that's not where the pistol is 95% of the time. I take the holster off and use the safariland holster when I have my battle belt on.

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>>34621141
Why not both?

>>34621141
What is the large pouch on the left side?

>>34621246

Old school GI IFAK.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Army-IFAK-Multi-Cam-/292161798204?hash=item440633403c:g:sTAAAOSwVJhZTgdv

Any suggestions for cleaning out a dump pouch? Things got a little messy this time (bad indian food I think) and the fabric still smells.

>>34621274

Oxyclean is the best detergent for organic material in fabric.

>>34621116
I thought it was a tactical butt plug.

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>>34609693

>gloves

>>34619528
What's a good light?

>>34617784
you look like a security guard from the game Space Station 13

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How's everyone doing

>>34621778
What chest rig and belt is that?

>>34614208
what the fuck is an inside battle belt

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British obviously

-Mk 7a helmet with some shit on it
-shit knife but does the job
-mechanix gloves

Belt was buckshee but it's desciple
Left to right
-warrior assault systems double mag pouches
-warrior strobe pouch
-warrior med utility pouch with speed loader in
-warrior lrg utility pouch with admin panel
-Desciple utility pouch
-pistol mag pouch
Don't know what the yoke is because that's buckshee too

>>34617599
>>34617567
This. Cerakote or at least rattlecan it a cool competition color, like metallic purple.

Been out of country the last couple months for work. Is there an archive of the GQ magazines?

>>34623235
Not sure, it was discussed that Gargantuanon might make a big imgur album out of them and now that kommandoblog is a thing that was mentioned as well. As far as I know nothing has happened with either option.

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Dunno which outfit i should choose while SHTF....since i live in an urban area maybe i should go with the AK? I mean...since i live in europe, terrorists will obviously choose an AK variant to conquer the citys.

>>34623287
What cou you source ammo for the most easily?

>>34622349
Rig is tac tailor MAV and belt is a surplus eagle industries belt that usmc issues out

>>34623600
can you*

>>34623600

the easiest way to get fresh ammo to the rifle/pistol is the belt....than the carrier.

>>34623612
No i mean what is the easiest ammo to find where you live

>>34623617

ah, ok.....well both are easy to find, and i have a sufficiant ammount of both of them stored. But since we are a nato state i think 5.56/223 would be easier to come buy in police stations or other shooters.

>>34619056
even in "shtf" situations you may be able to get medical treatment. think rioting, natural disasters, etc. these are relatively short duration events. Also unless the event that triggers SHTF is all the doctors in the US getting raptured, there will be people capable of treating injuries, they just won't be easy to find.

Is there a recommended list for first time gear buyers? I want to get setup with out breaking the bank (I'm working on getting in shape ATM so maybe I should hold off)

What do you guys carry on your kit in the way of knives/axes for camp tools?

>>34620737
Those black pens. Been out for 3 years, still find them in my stuff randomly.

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>>34621589
I'm incredibly pleased with my Surefire P2X Intellibeam.
The adaptive brightness works as advertised; the only problem I've had with it is that because of the way the adaptive brightness works, it drops to the lowest setting when it's pointed at a retroreflective surface like a road sign or yellow safety vest.
Other than that, it's basically magic and has never given me more or less light than I wanted.

>>34623743
just hold off until you're roughly the weight you want to be at

read the OP

>>34620737
what's the green box above the MS2000? also what's the orange and red box next to it?

>>34624317
green box is ear pro case. Other is maybe batteries?

>>34622492
Nice kit.

>>34623287
Use whichever has ammunition that will be easiest to find. After than then make range considerations as the AK has a red dot and the AR has a scope.

>>34621193
K.I.S.S.

>>34624055
Haha I knew someone would notice.

>>34624317
Yeah the green box is ear pro, and the orange red box is just batteries for the GPS and headlamp. Im gonna replace that with a waterproof battery case.

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So I have no issues shouldering a rifle normally. And I wear my plate carrier around the house a lot to get used to the weight and feeling.

But as soon as I try to shoulder a rifle and aim it and shit my arms feel very strained and exhausted. Do I just need to do it more to build up some strength, or is there something I'm not getting? I have shooters cut plates and the carrier is low profile in the shoulders.

>inb4 dyel

>>34625051
How tight are your shoulder straps? How is the arm/shoulder mobility with the carrier on. Other than you needing to hit the gym it is possible that when you raise your arm to shoulder the rifle you're cutting of circulation or pinching something.

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>>34625072

Straps are only tight enough to hold the carrier in the proper position. Range of movement in the carrier is good.

Maybe just running around the house in the carrier with the rifle is what I need to do.

>>34625051
Sounds like lifting more is the way to go. In addition if you even get cheap little 5 or 10 pound dumbbells you can do a little routine at home of slow overhead claps, front claps, and military press. Do 10 reps of each, rotate to the next exercise .Do as many sets as you care to. I usually do this as a cool down from actual lifting, and it's a good way to get nice and stretched.

>>34625097
Are you really happy with that floppy rigger belt for your inner? Happy with the pistol holster sitting so high? You may want to look into adjusting these both.

>>34625204

I'll probably start doing those exercises. Hopefully they will help.

And I'm getting a new belt setup soon. I had always planned to replace the riggers belt, but I'm at the point that I would rather get a new system set up at this point than anything else.

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>>34625225
Seriously though man, maybe move the straps inwards or outwards. Plus it always helps to be more fit.

And yeah I here you on the "whole new system" thing. I want to upgrade my battle belt to the HSGI Sure Grip, cobra inners, and suspenders with elastic. I was considering selling my ATS but I realized I should just keep it as a backup or spare. Gear resale is pretty abysmal.

>>34625279

You say that, but you can have my HSGI Sure grip for the low price of 30 schmeckles.

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>>34625296
What size? Multicam? In decent shape?
[email protected]

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>>34625321

Small, multicam, Worn around the house and at 1 match.

>>34625330
Small might be a bit smol for me. Let me research. Is it an actual HSGI sure grip? 3 rows molle? Hard plastic insert?
Why are you selling?

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>>34625370

It is a true to form HSGI sure grip, I ordered it from SKD Tactical around Thanksgiving last year. Has 3 rows of Molle and the plastic insert.

I am selling it because it's very hot in the summer, as well as adding bulk right below my plate carrier. I want to upgrade to a 2 piece belt system like the Ronin Senshi or something similar.

>>34625370
You can have my medium. 50 schmeckles, 80 if you want the super dank inner heavy duty corba belt. I don't like battle belts.

>>34625414
Thanks for offer, and you're asking a fair price but I probably won't be happy with the small.

>>34625422
Pics please AZ bro?
Multicam? Decent shape?
[email protected]

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>>34625422

Damn you for having a size more likely to fit a non-skellington.

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>>34625445

Seriously being a skellington sucks. I had to do this to hold down the back panel because I had to move the cummerbund way in to fit me.

>>34625447
Nice image. I'm sorry for you loss of gainz.

>>34614787
ifak you 2

>>34625445
Multicam. Depends on ehat you consider decent shape. Extenuating circumstances currently prevent me from posting a pic. Will email you with one when I can.

>>34625279
What holster for your Sig? What grips?

>>34625479
Hope you burned dem 550 cord ends.

Chest rig? Battle belt? Both?

>>34626519
Both

>>34626619
How do you set up a battle belt? Do you have to run your Cobra belt through the inside? What are some decently priced ones? Thinking I'd put a few extra mags and an ifak on it. Maybe a big knife or tomahawk for innawoods stuff

>>34626519

Belt first, chest rig later.

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>>34625989
Piece of shit Condor universal. I bought it for like $10 because I hadn't decided on a pistol yet. Once I settle on the Glock I'll probably get a Safariland.

P226 Extreme 9mm. Comes with those grips. Just sold the pistol a couple weeks ago for $200 net profit.

>>34626519
I am doing both.

>>34625718
Yeah I'll just wait to see some pictures.

>>34626704
Can you recommend some good ones? I already have a Cobra belt. Plain is cool but I don't mind paying extra for one that's already set up if those are a thing

>>34626733
Seems we took opposite roots, I started with a g19 then gave it to the gf when I got my 229.

>>34626483

I need to. I did that when I first got it and meant to clean it up.

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>>34626826

Crye
Tactical Tailor
HSGI
Brokos

I like the HSGI best due to the rubberized backing.

>>34627284
>I like the HSGI best due to the rubberized backing
You wouldn't if you ever wore the belt outside and moved around even a little in the sun

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>>34627401

I wore it on walking hog hunts in South Texas during the summer. It's fine.

>>34625717
y-you too

>>34615132
Yes it's necessary to wear a PC when you're probably going to get shot at, but whether it's necessary for you is yours to decide

>>34626519
what ever works for the situation at hand
gear is situational in and of itself

>>34615520
pretty much anything you can find at your local atwoods, or Cabelas

>>34616012
I prefer double mag flap pouches myself.

>>34616078
>>34616115
yo me home boy. still got speghetto stains on my kit

>>34616377
I dunno maybe one of those gay ass two gun belts

>>34616570
tell me the med kit package your getting nibba?!
>>34620732
>>34620737
also nice wingman and nav kit my dude.

>>34617857
>>34617878
my jpc2.0 is emersion you ain't got nothing on me.

>>34627463
damn dude you walk? i take my words back you're super hardcore

>>34627557
Thanks, I actually buy all the kit separate. I have a large supply of combat gauze, which is like the most expensive item, and I find that 'kits' usually get price things.

And in like 5 days im replacing the GPS, so ill post that here when I get that in.. gonna benice.

>>34627557
hate when i get pasta stains on my kit :(

>>34616259
Sounds like a good product

>>34616806
Tbh just pack an etool for that if you didn't bring a hospital

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>>34621274
watterhose + dial dishwashing soap + fresh air should solve the problem.

>>34621778
Pretty good

>>34624019
axe
esee 4 or leatherman wingman

>>34628298
>combat gauze
heard from some guys that hemostatic gauze/agents are a red cunt hair away from being pointless these days.

sweet you getting the garmin with the ballistics information?

>>34628402
the pockets will never the same

>>34617784
Prepare for justice/10

>>34628497
Interesting, Im not in a medical field, so I dont know the latest trends. I know hemostatic powder is pretty much no longer used, they were phasing that out when I came in. Anyway, ill look into it.

And Im getting the 601, so the one without the ballistics info. Its just too much more for the the applied ballistics program. I don't do longe range stuff atm so It isnt worth it for me. But the 601 is the same one, just without the program, so ill settle with that. Comes out the 27th if your interested

>>34628497
What's your preferred axe?

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Went on a short innawoods trip yesterday and this morning. Got rained on over night. Alice pack water proofing worked as intended.

Alice harness and ensemble w/ medium Alice pack no frame
May pick up a frame for this or move onto better packs

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>>34612744
There are four pretty popular ones with this board's users. I'll describe them briefly:

1. The Boot.
>usually self-inflicted, the boot involves the uniform shaving of the head with the same clippers the wearer uses to shave his sack and anus hair

2. The Bert.
>sometimes called a "high and tight", the sides and back of the head are shaved bald, and a small wisp of inch-long hair is left on the crown of the head, closely resembling the hairstyle of the character Bert from Sesame Street

3. The Military Discount.
>also referred to as an "AAFES", the military discount is a Bert with the bangs left as long as the wearer believes AR-670-1 permits them, but as he will soon be informed by the battalion CSM, he is wrong about that, and this haircut will also not in any way permit him to easily blend in at civilian nightclubs or colleges like he thinks it will, so that sucks even more, getting a haircut based on TWO (2) incorrect and idiotic presumptions

4. Not So Much Off the Fucking Back, Mom
>see: skeletor

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>>34628835
A piece of innawoodsing gear that got its first use: jetboil flash. The stack packs nicely into the cup for storage and fits nicely in a pouch on the Alice pack. Push button ignition. Boils water quickly. Sweet gear

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>>34628731
from the docs I've talked to a lot of the time stuffing the wound with any gauze is pants on head retarded, especially if you're deployed in some third world shithole.
you're basically, packing the patients wound with coagulants and bacteria deeper into the wound moreover is harder to clean out and will lead to infection.

when keeping the pressure on the wound with something like Israelis combat bandages keeps the wound sterile, well at least as sterile as you can in the field, and usually stops bleeding.
but one of the most important things about medical kits should be IMHO is getting your guy into the E.R. as fast as possible (preferably within the golden hour) and planning for an evac for the patient.

not to get too autistic
but pen flares, bright smoke grenades, and keeping your longitude and latitude on hand may save a buddies life when you need to call for a heli

>>34628832
basic bitch Husqvarna 26" Wooden Multi-Purpose Ax

but heard Gränsfors Bruks was the shit tho,and intend on trying it.

Anyone here own the Spiritus Micro flight half / full / whatever flap?

Could you take some pictures of it front and back? Thanks.

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>>34628941
>Not So Much Off the Fucking Back, Mom
>see: skeletor

>>34628941
>1. The Boot.
A good haircut; gives you a clean, professional look and you can do it yourself in like 10 minutes.

>>34629054
Thats a fair point, in all my training I was taught otherwise, but you make a solid argument. Def agree about getting the patient to next level care though. Even looking at most hiking injuries, its caused by peoples lack of Navigation and signaling and they succumb to their injuries. Interesting stuff.

Is your mbav water resistant? I see the water bubbling up on the chest part of it.

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>>34629108
>professional
Yeah, a professional faggot.

>>34629108
>being under 30
>shaving your head
>looking good
nah

>>34629151
speaking of hiking injuries/deaths, one of the weirder things I try to keep in my ifaks is an emergency blanket, to prevent the patient or myself from succumbing to hypothermia

Yeah, that mbav is pretty water resistant, I was out in a downpour with the thing on and it took something like 2hrs for it to start soaking through to the esapi.

>>34629108

Skin fade with #2 on top is fairly good, doesn't look /too/ military.

>>34628941
I rock the fuck out of my numboh 3.

>"is your hair within regs?"
>pulls out ar 670 "LENGTH NO LONGER THAN THE BROW"
>1sg still makes you get a hair cut and hazed for insubordination

>>34624019
Fallkniven F1 (I'm planning on upgrading to the DZ soon)
Silky Saw (any of the ones over 240 mm, depending on what pack I am using)

That can perform everything from making a fire to processing food, and doing all the other stuff you expect a knife to, if you know what you are doing. I also occasionally carry a Fallkniven A1 Pro, because I need to justify the purchase. Also, Carbon steel is aweful.

>>34629393
Thats pretty cool, yeah I actually just bought an emergency blanket from NAR for like 4 bucks. Added it to my pack. For sure awesome

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I got a new SADF chest rig. its better then the one i used to have. the shoulder pads don't have that fucking sand paper nylon on them.

>>34629924
Did you get it from the kommando store? How does it fit?

>>34630032
yeah i got both of them from the kommando store. It fits fine they are adjustable. I bought the last one that they had that was reasonably prices. with shipping i payed $50

>>34630046
Was it one of the unissued ones?
>Says $33. Something
>Add to cart
>$97.99
Fucking god damn

>>34626826
check out TYR tactical i run their belt and it works great

What kinda rig would you all recommend for someone with a shit back? I'm in the market for a rig and I'm limited by my own body.

>>34630164
webbing distributes the weight upon your hips and not your back

>>34630113
the only ones he still has are the higher grade ones that were like never issued
and come in the packaging the one i ordered was the last serviceable grade one they had

>>34630299
Well shit. Does he get them in pretty regularly? I'm hoping he gets more of the SA trousers too, I need some 30x30s

>>34630447
he got them a couple months maybe a year ago and he just recently got another shipment. you can email them and they lurk these threads.

>>34629054
>>34628731
nah mr scout rifle is all fucked up. latest CoTCCC guidance is still to pack wounds with hemostatic gauze or regular gauze if necessary. remember that if you have a pelvic GSW that necessitates gauze packing, it could be a matter of death in 30 seconds if you don't get to business and pack that shit. Infection can suck my dick, not bleeding cause my femoral is all fucked up is the priority. And an izzy bandage definitely won't put enough pressure on something like i described above

>>34630786
the main point of packing guaze is to apply more pressure on the wound.
hemostatic guaze are not going to do much if your femoral artery is severed.

the best thing you can do if that happens is trying to keep as much pressure on the wound as possible if you can get a tq over it that's great, and if you can start a blood transfusion if possible even better, but the main focus should be getting that guy to the doc as fast as possible.

but you're right if the wound is so high up the guys leg it's damn near in his torso and I can't get anything to work, I'd pack that wound as an attempt to get more pressure on the artery.

with all things it's situational.

>>34631251
>you're right if the wound is so high up the guys leg it's damn near in his torso and I can't get anything to work, I'd pack that wound as an attempt to get more pressure on the artery.
literally the whole point of wound packing, who even reads the CoTCCC slides. Obviously you don't need to pack small cuts, it's for massive hemorrhage

>>34628835
Get a frame, it makes it slightly better

>>34631251
also forgot to add that literally putting the TQ on in the case of a severed femoral artery (at the leg level and not at the groin) is priority number 1. Someone can bleed out in well under a minute from that, unless the medic is right there in the room you're not going to move a patient fast enough for it to matter.

>>34631340
pretty much

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Looking for a scaleable slick plate carrier.

Perroz designs LPSPC or Ferro Slickster?

Anyone here tried out the HTC low profile system? How was it? Was it worth the price?

>>34632363
I have the Slickster. I have yet to take it to a class, but it's pretty comfortable on me, and I'm about 20 pounds overweight, and the stitching seems pretty solid.
I did a little bit of research before I bought it and I saw no complaints at all.
And it has some features that many other slick carriers don't, like the six side pockets. So you can just wear it and have 4 mags, an IFAK, and comms, while still being really low profile.

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>>34632363
AVS

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>>34623287
jo brah is that a schmeisser?

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>>34614208
I have no idea what you are asking for here but High Threat Concealment makes a hybrid heavy duty belt that loops through the front two belt loops of your pants and widens out to 1.75" velcro lined to attach to a velcro underbelt for the rest of the way.

>>34634724
How's that system? Is it actually concealable?

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>>34626733
>Safariland
Git

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>>34633195
Couldn't you just buy the cumberbund and put that on any other slick carrier?

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>>34635827
what "arm brace" is that?

>>34634724

pls respond

>>34635218

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>>34635856
Its a Maxim CQB stock on a legally stamped lower

>>34635943
What's the point of these stocks? Isn't the whole setup actually heavier than a standard collapsible stock?

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>>34636062
>What's the point of these stocks?
Compact, snag free and looking cool (to some). The entire stock is 5.375" closed vs 8" for a standard M4 stock.
>>34636062
>Isn't the whole setup actually heavier than a standard collapsible stock?
Its 18.59oz vs 17oz for a m4 stock (incl buffer+tube) and also adds 2x QD points

I got a really good deal on mine, I would be hard pressed to pay the asking price of $350-$450 for one but it is a neato platform. If I wanted to get even more compact I could throw a 8" 300blk upper on the rifle and enjoy something ridiculously compact.

How autistic would it be to use nomex coveralls as part of my larping kit?

>>34636199
It'd be the fourth panel in a "how many layers of gear autism are you on" comic.

>>34636062
Its meant for when you need to store an ar in as absolutely littlest space as possible. It's like 20% smaller for 300% the cost but to some people its worth it.

I wouldn't consider it unless I was doing a 8" upper

>>34609500
Anybody hav a good recommendation for a dump pouch?

Which boots nike SFB's or Oakley assualt 2's?