Gear Queer General /gq/

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First for summer PCU adventures

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>anon makes a 8/10 /gq/

just needed an edition

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There is absolutely nothing wrong with using steel plate if you get the anti-spalding rubberized coating. They have been shown to take 7 rounds to nearly the exact same spot before failing. A small increase to weight however you benefit from overall lower prices and significantly thinner plates.

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Not much of a gear queer, but a guy had a plate carrier, a bunch of pouches, some plates, and a bladder for $100, and I bought it as an impulse. I've been doing some reading, and I'm gathering that Condor is shit. I did some googling, and it looks like that's what I got. Posting here to get your guys' confirmation. I'm not going to be bummed out if it is a shit rig, because it's more for funsies, and I can always save up for a better one if I like the idea of having a plate carrier.

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>>34570740
Speaking of, were these chinaplates ever BTFO or verified?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Two-Pieces-Set-Alumina-PE-NIJ-IV-Bulletproof-Panel-Al2o3-NIJ-4-Stand-Alone-Ballistic-Panel/1511609999.html

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>>34570740
>inb4 A2 looses his fucking mind again

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>>34570757
its a condor for sure

they do work in a slight manner, the stitching tends to be shit and they fall apart quickly in serious use. They do hold armor though. just use it till it falls apart and save money for a better PC if you so choose to buy one. Just know that the condor you have is going to be really heavy, hot and not comfy at all

>>34570740

Stolen valor SAPIs are like $100 on Armslist/Craigslist/gun shows, there is no reason to compromise on steel plates.

>>34570780
Well I own these now so that is a pretty damn good reason. Even if I regretted my initial choice I would lose my fucking tits on reselling and buying again.

>>34570777
Don't worry. I'll get my $100 of use out of it. If anything, I'll know what I want out of my next carrier if I decide to invest.

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>>34570740
>upset that he bought steel because he didnt bother doing any research
arg laughs at you, we laugh at you
>significantly thinner plates
>has double stack tacos and a med pouch large enough for his Doritos
I hope spalding shoots off and cuts off your fingers so you cant post such dumb shit ever again
>>34570758
Not worth testing china plates since vendor will just dip out and create a new brand overnight. Would avoid.

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>>34570876

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>>34570876
should i buy a lvl 3+ ar500 helmet

youtube says i should

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>>34570876
>upset that he bought steel
Honestly, I don't mind too much either way. There are hundreds of reviews that say steel is just as good if not better. I had a handful of anons on a Icelandic rice pudding pen pal registry telling me either wise. In the end I still have plates that suit the need.

If I had to do it all over again maybe I'd get ceramic but I'm perfectly happy with the thinner more robust steel.

>>34570758
Yup. I made a post about this last thread.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=polenar+chinese+plate

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>>34570923
>more robust steel.
hahahah what is this dude even saying? You see this? This is your game over AR500 scrub

Also that is the least efficient use of space I've ever seen in an ifak

>>34570963
ar550 my dude

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>>34570976
>defeating AP 308 with anything but IV ceramics

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>>34570993
>defeating AP 308 with anything

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>>34570993
https://youtu.be/jB1uq1T9SHg?t=1m31s

>>34571003
Only if there was a NIJ rating designed to stop AP rifle threats. Hmmmmmmmmm, gets the noggin joggin
>>34571017
>reliable testing video from trustworthy manufacturer

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>>34570921
Just get a sohah Maritime cut off of ebay. Gargantuanon and I both have them and they are dank.

Also in for real tree "crye" meme

>>34571017

the fuck is going on with the impacts on that armor? it's like it's coming from inside

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>>34570740
Multi-curve level IV Large size SAPIS at my local show for like $150 per plate.

There is absolutely something wrong with being so defensive of your sub-par purchase, and being incapable of accepting that you might have might an ever so slight mistake.

Also your gay filename confirms how autistic you are.

>>34570757
Someones airshit rig. Don't put any more money into it.

>>34570758
For $233 you aren't getting that good of a deal. I just got some USA made Armour Wear level IV multi curve ceramics for $285 shipped. Those are also spooky light. I mean they might work well though.

>>34570801
My second set of ceramics just arrived last week and my second carrier arrives tomorrow. Don't be afraid to be wrong.

>>34570921
Link? What are the special threats?

>>34570923
>There are hundreds of reviews saying that steel is just as good if not better.
>I'm perfectly happy with the thinner more robust steel.
It isn't even your opinion of steel that bothers me, or your defending of it, but rather your completely self-unaware justification routine that you're jumping through right now.

>>34570976
Those rounds will go right through III+ steel plates of any type.


In for legit M18 smoke grenades fit quite well in Tactical Tailor Fight Light Smoke/Flash pouch.

Also in for Velocity Systems LWPC arrives tomorrow.

>>34571045
he is memeing. he posted the ukrop helmet I tested and he purchased.
>Gargantuanon and I both have them and they are dank.
Has to be terrible then

>>34570697
MFW I had one but my phone decided to be retarded so I had to restart and forgot it.

Inb4 >phoneposting
It's what's readily available to me at the moment.

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>>34570921

No. Ballistic helmets are dumb if you're not in a combat zone.

They're designed to protect you from frag/shrapnel. How often would you ever see that as a civilian?

It's not worth the weight penalty. A quality bump helmet is the way to go.

>yes, I have an ACH, but not for ballistic protection--because I got it fucking cheap.

>>34571029
>Only if there was a NIJ rating designed to stop AP rifle threats.

if only I were made of money

>>34570942
Oh nice. You have a pair?

>>34571088
>For $233 you aren't getting that good of a deal. I just got some USA made Armour Wear level IV multi curve ceramics for $285 shipped. Those are also spooky light. I mean they might work well though.
That is a good point. I really like ceramic+PE as a combo. I think my insta-buy trifecta would be cheap-ish, ceramic+PE, from a reliable manufacturer.

Also please stick this anon on the thirst list for m18 smokies.

>>34571113
Damn it you airshitter you took his bait
>They're designed to protect you from frag/shrapnel. How often would you ever see that as a civilian?
Pipebombs
>>34571073
Its the coating starting to fuck up a little bit due to the impact

>>34571017
Well shit. That was surprising.

I take back what I said.

>>34571129
>Pipebombs
Yeah don't forget about shrapnel from exploding propane tanks too you sperg.

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>>34571094
Its an American made CVC shell rated for 3a cut into a Maritime cut with all the opscore shit tacked on to it for a third of the price and the same ballistic capability. Lighter than an ACH too.

Not like youre gonna get shot in the head anyways.

>>34571113
>bump
Eww
>rails on full cut ACH
Double eww

>>34571151
How many retards stockpile "muh tannerite"? Dallas police shooting? Boston bombing shootouts?
>>34571119
>Also please stick this anon on the thirst list for m18 smokies.
Anon isnt allowed

>>34571119
Those china plates are pretty light though. And $233 is very cheap. It is cool that they're also level IV hybrid plates, as I haven't seen to many of those. Weird that Chinese plates are on the forefront with that sort of thing. I would be interested in seeing them tested against 30-06 AP like actual level IV are.

M18 update will be in a few weeks probably.

>>34571134

don't get hasty now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjZLZbViAvE

>>34571165
Ok I take back taking back what I said.

Must be the difference between the 30-06 black tip vs. the Israeli P80 black tip. Makes me want to get into reloading. Thanks for sharing Anon. /gq/ is the tits.

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>>34571165
wtf I hate steel now
>FN vs m2

>>34571200
>muh ceramic

what do you say about this poo's test?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53klUU-YuX0

>>34571195
Nice shorts :3

>>34571210
>AR500
>it fails
How could this happen?

>>34571160
And how many of those retards are going to end up throwing one where you plan to be wearing a fucking helmet? If you're trying to riot prep just say so already.

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>>34571195
>>34571211
So predictable.

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>>34571231
You're not my dad

>>34571228

what's a good brand for lv 4?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmy2ywMl5iI

>>34571231
I do it on purpose :3

>>34570780
>>34570876
>>34571088
>only tripfags dumb enough to take the bait

typical.

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>>34571251
Fuck you for stealing my OC

>>34571252
Paging Dr. Armorus (someone on the discord force him here, I know you can see this.

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>>34571210
Pretty sure level IV isn't supposed to do that.
Sketch.

>>34571252
Fuck makes me want to sell my Armour Wear plates. I hope the ones I have are better than those CF wrapped ones. Makes me want to get trauma pads.

>>34571276
>Fuck makes me want to sell my Armour Wear plates.

well it did work, just keep in mind you will be out of the fight no matter if you get hit with or without armor

>>34571271
"They can fuck off, I hope they die from spalling" -Armorus Maximus

>>34571252
Clearly, AR500 ++III++

Any well put together IV plate will perform fine.
>>34571276
>Makes me want to get trauma pads.
What do you expect getting shot to feel like?

>>34571252
Hesco at this point. I kinda want to flip my Armour Wears and get Hescos but it probably doesn't matter.

>>34571281
Of course, but out of the fight for a few minutes or out for months because of broken ribs? Internal bleeding from trauma? All things that might very well separate mediocre but legitimate level IV plates like Armour Wear from the higher end stuff like HESCO and HighCom.

>>34571284
Traumatic I assume

>>34571283
>spalding
ftfy

>>34571298
>All things that might very well separate mediocre but legitimate level IV plates like Armour Wear from the higher end stuff like HESCO and HighCom.
Its more the platform you are being shot at than anything.

>>34571298
>Of course, but out of the fight for a few minutes or out for months because of broken ribs? Internal bleeding from trauma?

I'll take injured and/or stuck in bed for a few weeks over dead all day. But I also believe in not getting shot in the first place.

Legit AP ammo will always be a danger to whatever armor you can wear.

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>>34565334
what rig?

>>34571377
Tactical Tailor MAV, they said so in this post >>34566904

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Peltor Rangeguard anon here again, thanks for the (you)s last thread. Florida anon my question to you is:
>>34564497
Amazon review says the following:
>Despite information saying these could not be used with the Peltor RangeGuard electronic earmuffs ( ), I had also seen information saying they could be used, so took a chance and ordered a set.

>The gel seals are mounted on plastic rings, with adhesive. The plastic rings they are mounted to are not compatible with the RangeGuard, However, the seals can be carefully peeled off the plastic ring. The same is true of the foam seals the RangeGuard has from the manufacturer. Simply carefully peel off each set of seals, and put the gel seals on the RangeGuard rings. I did it in less than 10 minutes.

Is this accurate?

Any good /qg/ youtubers out there?

I am buying used ear pro how should I clean it?

>>34571113
>frag/shrapnel
>How often would you ever see that as a civilian

Very often. Extremely often.

What are:
>pressure cooker bombs
>pipe bombs
>factory explosions
>car explosions
>your sylvia plath neighbor who blows up their house
>natural disasters
>civil unrest
>riots
>nigger lives matter
>niggers at all

And those aren't even bullets. What do you think happens to a bullet after it travels a long distance and loses most of its energy? A fairly slow moving metal object isn't shrapnel? If any of this shtf nonsense fantasy were even remotely close to happening in the US, it's going to be 99% overweight bubbas taking shots at several hundred yards which have a decent chance of being stopped- even if it's a direct hit, and more likely if it's a ricochet or anything.

Are you really trying to argue with cosplayers about what parts of their costume are more or less realistic

>>34571045
What a fucking faggot.

a2 is a fucking fbi informant

>>34571471
Garand Thumb

>>34572183
None of those things are even remotely common. And there are other things you can invest hundreds of dollars in that would be exponentially better help than a ballistic helmet

>>34572377
Any beside Daddy GT?

>>34570876
spalding

Spalling isn't a butler that shows up to help you dress, it's something that fucks your day up.

>>34571210
Won't steel plates fucking kill you?

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>>34572604
Yes, notice that on very few Armor tests they have anything above the plate, usually it's just on a torso with no head.

I've seen a few videos where guys did use a torso with a head attached and the spalling on steel armor goes directly up into the chin/neck

Would be a very bad day and almost impossible to fix.

It makes sense, because the bullet flattens out when it's stopps, and the fragments fly directly off the sides of the plate.

Most "Spall Liner" steel armor has is literally just truck bed liner.

>>34570605
Would it be a valid assertion that most civilians would be better served by Level 3A soft body armor vests than Lvl3/4 plates?

>>34571441
You can change the rings out. Just carefully remove the gel cups and foam cups and change out the plastic seals with each other.

>>34572411

brent0331

Tactical Rifleman

Polenar Tactical

>>34572656
>Would it be a valid assertion that most civilians would be better served by Level 3A soft body armor vests than Lvl3/4 plates?
Honestly I'm surprised that 3A doesn't get more love here. 95% of gun violence is handguns, and 3a soft plates are like 1.001lbs each.

>>34573064
Even as an urban-fag I still own hard plates. It's true that more crimes are currently committed with handguns (poor data collection at local levels make it unclear to what extent this extends to rifle-caliber pistols like dracos).

That being said your average anon is not buying armor to defend against "typical" violent crimes. In a mugging situation obviously your 3a is useless unless you really wear that shit daily. In a home defense situation either soft 3a or level III or IV hard plates will probably get the job done if you even have time to throw armor on.

In a more serious situation like rioting, societal collapse, etc there is no real reason to believe that criminals will just continue using pistols when there is less need to conceal their weapons, there is a greater need for firepower, and semi auto rifles are this common.

>>34571895
A lot. No joke, scrub it good.

Anyone have experience with the ATS Aegis V2? Seems like a good pick, very similar to the APC, but with padding. Good for noobs first pc?

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>>34573511
Cordan has one. He might be in /gq/ right now. I've had positive to lukewarm experiences with ATS. They're not top of the line but for the most part their stuff is good to go, and I expect the ATS Aegis V2 to be the same. Cordan likes his.

Thinking about buying this 22 lr semi-auto:
https://vildsvin.se/vapen/nya-vapen/mossberg-22-lr-702-semiauto/
and modding it with this kit
https://vildsvin.se/taktiskt-skytte/ar-15-set-till-mossberg-702/
I can probably get a drum mag as well. Is it a good idea or should I just get a 200 dollar regular rifle?

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>they took the poor quality bait meant for the A2 fish

wew lads

also i had a bump helmet, much prefer my Ukie noggin protec

>>34570803
Thats the mindset baby

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Anyone here multicam black?

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>>34573770
First as a joke but not tempted to get some actual G3's in MC Black

>>34573770
I know this is bait, BUT peep those spent 12gage shells and Zordins

>>34573770
Strongly consider suicide. Not because of the multicam black, but because you decided to do the cheapest fuckin shit possible and made your LBE multicam black as well.

>>34573770
BRUH not even a mcam black bdu

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>>34571346
You could peel and replace. I just made a V shaped cut in the hard plastic and it works fine.

>>34573846
>>34573843
>>34573856

Thanks guys, you two are a true pillar of the community

>>34573873
Truly a bottom of the barrel airsofter

>>34572656
Serious question, how much of spalling is mitigated by the fabric of the carrier? I see tests saying steel is gud or steel is shit because spall but its just the bare plate which is entirely unrealistic

>>34573770
You look like you came straight out of a modern warfare title.

>>34573770
>shotgun placard
>no shotgun
>does that shit flip?
KYS

>>34573945
Post PEQ.
Post black MCs.

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>>34574016
:thinking:

>>34573979
Serious answer, the effect might be mitigated, but rule of thumb if it's going high enough velocity to mess you up it's fairly reasonable to assume it's going fast enough to puncture a carrier

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>>34573770
Bruh you is about 56" tall

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>>34573873
Thank you for the compliment
>>34574016
I hope your not the same person as >>34573770 cuz #1 look at the fucking peq like wtf is that orange button and it didn't even come with replica stickers and #2 tat ain't even an Mcam black bdu just a shitty JPC knock off and helmet cover

>>34573555
Cool, I'll give it a go then. Thanks friend!

>>34573784
I like your kit. Is this an old loadout of yours?

>>34574166
Yeah you're likely to be happy!

Okay mailman. Where is this LWPC...

>>34573979
High velocity metal fragments would go right through a carrier lol

>>34573020
Can you elaborate what you mean by plastic seals? I don't have my earpro with me right now and I've never taken them apart anyways.

>>34574316
Nice OC, the greyscale pics were(are?) cool but it doesn't show off that sexy
R A G N A R G R E E N

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>>34573770
Everything about this airshit loadout is awful. KMS urself

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>>34574451
Thanks, the color is kinda fucked due to lighting but heres another

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>>34574318
that's a top belt kit right there

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Friendly reminder we are two weeks away.. the true gear queers will know.

>>34574538
that's cool as shit what's the battery life on such technology?

>>34574545
48 Hours in GPS mode
a week in watch mode
Probably like 24 hours in Applied Ballistics if you get that one

Takes 2 AAA batteries

>>34574395
The plastic pieces that pop out with the foam cups. They told them in place.

>>34574538
What gps?

>>34574573
600 dollars seems like a bit much, but I'll probably snag myself one in do time

>>34574590
>>34574582

Foretrex 601/701

You can get the 601 which is the same thing minus the applied ballistics program, and its 250.

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>>34574573
>an extra $350 for them to put the ballistics calculator software on the thing
fucking hell

>>34574615
but the ballistic program is the whole reason I'd get it over my current 401

>>34574622
Yeah, Idk about that shit. Im just gonna get the 601. 250 is fair. But I guess if I was the DOD or a long range shooter, it might be nice to have. My guess is they had a high price, because its a collab of sorts with Applied Ballistics and the 701's will likely get a government contract of sorts. So it benefits them to up the price. I agree its stupid though.

>>34574634
I recommend to people to get the 401, which is awesome and more affordable than ever. But for gear queers its nice and new. But there is def. some new features that are worth it IMO. It will be more durable, longer battery life, night vision compatible, supports GPS, Glonass, Galileo, better screen res.

--

I wouldnt really recommend to someone who has a 401 already to upgrade to it, but if your in the market for a GPS, and you dont have a 401 already. This is a step up. As someone who has used the 401 a lot, and has multiple garmins, I look forward to getting this and letting you guys know how it goes.

>>34574538
The emoji movie?

>>34574699
wish it would do some range finding too, like some James bond laser watch and gives distance

>>34574699
how long did you say the wait time was for your TYR belt again? I ordered mine about a month ago and still nothing

>But I guess if I was the DOD or a long range shooter
thats why its bothering me, I am just starting to get into long range shooting and would love the 701. I think im going to just go with a 601, the applied ballistics app for phones is $30 and I just cant bring myself to pay them an extra $350 to flash the app onto the thing.

>>34574743
iirc 5-6 weeks. I ordered a small though and I know that they dont make those a lot. I think id give it two more weeks, they shipped pretty quick once I received my notification that it shipped.

Yeah, the 701 would be nice. Shame its priced for contracts and not really individual pricing. If it was something reasonable like 50-100$ more, id pick it up. If your long range shooting at a range though the app is the way to go, since you wont have to worry about breaking your phone on a hajji hut or someshit.

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Does anyone have any experience with the Peltor A-Bravo bump helmet? It's really cheap, $59 for a base one and $75 for a tricked out, super tactical yadda yadda yadda one is kinda suspicious. I intend to use it for mounting night vision, earpro, light and protecting my noggin from getting hurt. Is it going to work for that, or is it better to save up and pay the crazy $270 for an Ops-Core BUMP or a Team Wendy Exfil LTP?

Inb4 people rant about how TW funded hillary etc etc.

Can anyone recommend a 50L to 65L pack with molle, and a rifle holder? I'm looking for a fall and winter, hiking and hunting pack.

>Buy some howard leight impact sport based on an old suggestion somewhere on /k/
>Testing them out
>When on, the headphones add static noise to a quiet room
>Getting a couple of random noise blips from nearby wireless devices
Did I get a defective pair? Do I send them back for a replacement or get something entirely different? Maybe I need to test them in a properly noisy environment.

>>34575838
those noises are normal for howard leights

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>>34575838
My Howard Leights pick up all sorts of electronic noise. They did shit all for shielding.

Still waiting for the industry to release a decent pair of electronic ears for around $100 that work with radios (Howard Leights don't really since they cut out the mic ambient input if you're using the 3.5mm jack), and that don't have shit squealing like the Howard Leights.

>>34575637
Team Wendy?

>>34575890
So just poor shielding/grounding?
It was picking up a usb charger's noise as ear-rape static in the battery ear, but it stopped that once I unplugged the usb cable on that device.

>>34575917
>TW?
It's just what I heard waaaay back in an old thread. Have no idea if it's even true. But I figured someone would rant about it.

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>>34575093
I have one, its not bad. They are just hard to find because they arent exactly coolguy anymore
>>34575941
Yeah teamwendy is team hilary;

http://soldiersystems.net/2016/06/12/team-wendy-issues-statement-regarding-secretary-clintons-visit/

If bump helmets are non-ballistic anyway what's the point in going legit over an airsoft one?

>>34576146
Years ago I asked squid the same question and his answer was something along the lines of "so the airsoft shroud doesnt fall off and your NOD ends up in the dirt"

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Alright, so I'm this guy from yesterday. I was planning on hiking around (mucking) in a marsh today, and I did NOT wear my shorts, and boy am I glad I didn't. I was pushing through tall grass for about half an hour along the banks, and my pants were soaked, and it was a fairly dry day. Also, had I not been wearing pants all kinds of shit would have gotten into my boots including water.

Shorts are not okay for anything except range memeing or possibly innadesert where there are no low lying bushes or cactii. I'll stick to pants.

>>34574615
That sounds like a great deal, I'll probably pick one up.

>>34576111
Can't I get them off of the protec site though?

>>34576282
I ordered one from them in 2014? maybe 2015 or about. Still waiting for that one.

>>34576111
stop with this fucking meme already, they said repeatedly that they didn't endorse her at all she was just visiting their huge joint manufacturing plant

hilarious how geartards are smart enough to put together live saving equipment kits but stupid enough to believe dumb facebook memes

>>34576302
From here? http://www.protechelmet.com/products.asp?cat=14
Have you tried calling them or something?

>>34576323
>stop with this fucking meme already, they said repeatedly that they didn't endorse her at all she was just visiting their huge joint manufacturing plant
What do you think I linked you retard
>>34576324
>From here?
Yep

>>34576342
Fuck. Seems I gotta get the $150 ACH that mu buddy sells and cut it up then.

>>34575918
Possibly poor shielding as I get feedback and noise when out in the middle of fucking nowhere as well.

>>34576111
Okay Team Wendy and Troy are off the list.

>>34576146
Same build quality argument that surrounded most legit vs. airshit considerations.

>>34576219
I like wearing shorts when camping or hiking, but definitely not for operating, and especially not for going off of trail. A good pair of pants will breath decently enough, and the comfort of being a bit cooler is not worth the increased exposure to bugs, and little miscellaneous cuts and scrapes.

Militaries don't like rolled sleeves for a reason. Same reason they don't like shorts.

Plate carrier has been out for delivery for 6 hours now... Where is the mailman.

>>34575918
Sorry meant poor grounding.

An Team Wendy back on the okay to buy list. Troy still not allowed.

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>>34571113
>They're designed to protect you from frag/shrapnel

Having shot an 80 dollar, used Polish kevlar helmet over 40 times with 9mm, .40 SW, and .45ACP without anything going through, I can definitively say that this is a lie. Frag rated helmets are designed to protect from frag, IIIA helmets are designed to protect from IIIA threats.

>>34576538
That's a wz.93. We tested them out at my unit after we got wz. 2000 delivered to us, and shot it with 9mm WIST-94. Let 9mm through no problem, I don't know how it held up for 40 shots supposedly. You must've been lucky.

>>34573678
You have always seemed like one of the few GQs who goes outside often. I'd like to see a representative photo similar to this, but with your current gear.

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I've been looking for a while now but can't seem to find anything, anybody know what boots these are?

>>34576632
Adidas Yeezy boost 350s in Pirate black

>>34576616
>You have always seemed like one of the few GQs who goes outside often
Have you seen this nigga?

>>34576632
Krispi Sahara?

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>>34576648

>>34576663
I don't think so. I remember there was a thread about this a while back and I think they were lowcut boots.

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>>34576582
Maybe something with the ammo? I was just using cheap range ammo and hollow points.

Here is the inside of the helmet after shooting. There is some deformation, but it wouldnt be enough to kill you.

>>34576755
Polish 9mm is FMJ (obvious), but apart from that I can't really say too much about the amount of powder, velocity, weight etc. as we're not told about it. It is hot compared to German 9mm though.

How much could I get for a PASGT helmet that looks barely used and has a woodland camo cover?

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Holster finally came in. Its nice, I'll have to take it to the woods to see how well it works. Is the 6094 cut for just sapis or do nominal 10 x 12s work?

>>34576999
10x12 should work no problem.

>>34576999
Small/Medium SAPI sized carriers should fit smaller 10x12"s that have actual dimensions of around 9.5x11.5"

If it is a true 10x12" plate you might have a hard time squeezing it into a small/medium SAPI sized carrier. Some people on here have had that experience. At the same time you might be able to get it in. 10x12" seem to be kinda a toss up that may or may not fit well or not so well in either small/medium or large/XL SAPI sized carriers.

Sorry for the absolutely useless info. To be 100% sure you're going to want to actually test it if you can, or get the information from someone else.

>>34576952
I personally wouldn't pay more than $100.

Do you guys put plates in your backpack for added protection

>>34577049
>gecko45

>>34576999
>>34577048
usually a medium 6094 has a bit of extra space so most 10x12 plates will fit

>>34577091
>>34577033
>>34576999
Yes Anon is right 6094 is definitely more forgiving, should fit anything but the most horrendously oversized 10x12"s just fine.

It does depend on the carrier, and the 10x12". What 10x12"s are you looking at?

Anybody do a "GTFO" kit? Like something prepared that you can toss into a truck bed on short notice? Bigger than a personal rucksack kit, but for when you can't bunker down at your home for whatever reason? I've had one through several iterations because I live in a tornado and flood (yay me) prone area and always live in worry of having to hop in my truck and go.

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>>34575093
Save your sheckles and buy a slav shit clone like me

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what /gq/s everyday boot/shoe? i'd prefer black or a nice dark brown

these pants are comfy btw

>>34577244
Not happening mayne, I've got enough experience with slav armor.

>>34577281
im a normie/basic-bitch who wears converse or stan smiths

>>34577244
god it even looks thick as fuck in that picture

>>34577281
Shilling for Krispi Sahars worn under the pants or Lowa Zephyr. I wear both of these pretty much daily (Kripis when it's warm, Lowas when it's colder) and they're breddy gud and they don't stand out.

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>>34577302
i dislike both of those greatly but thanks anyways. i normally roll with romeos but they dont go with everything.

>>34577330
>Lowa Zephyr
looking for something a little lower profile but thanks.

>>34577244
tempting

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>>34577299
A2Grip, myself, FriendlyAnon shot the shit out of one of them. I would buy it. Definitely seems IIIA to me. The only really incapacitating shot was the 00 buckshot, and maybe the .357 buffalo bore, but that was in terms of deformation. It didn't penetrate until we started using rifles.
There is a little write up in the Garg's /GQ/ magazine.

Reee mailman still hasn't brought me my carrier.

>>34577374
>not wearing U L T R A B O O S T S

>>34577400
idk this meme

>>34577281
ASOLO boots are just insanely tough.

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>>34577281
Levis boots, i need to fix the sole because its pretty much flat now but they are pretty comfy

>>34577395
Can you possibly link it/show me pics? You guys might've bought new helmets or something, as these are really disliked in the polish military because of ballistic tests. They're never called IIIA in Poland, more like frag helmets.

>>34577413
ill look into them thanks

>>34577421
2hipster

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going with these. thanks gq.

>>34577496
idk if trolling but i wouldn't do it and i own a pair

>>34577517
why

>>34577530
lugs are grippy in soft terrain but there's not enough surface contact for grip on polished concrete and wet surfaces.

i would buy salomon xa pro 3d, i guess

idk my next boot purchase might be Akus

>>34577555
>salomon xa pro 3d
those look good.

>>34577422
I don't have them sorry man. If you see GargantuAnon ask him.

I'm not NIJ testing scientist but It honestly seemed like IIIA. Might have just been confirmation bias though.

>>34577496
Friend of A2 had those on the other day. Seemed pretty gucci.

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What is /k/'s preferred bandana?

What is /k/'s preferred 1980s music whilst wearing /k/'s preferred bandana while performing /k/ approved room clearing drills in their /k/ approved briefs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP84FlOYpPk

>>34577244
God it's such poorfag bait garbage

>>34577602
You should use /k/ms preferred gun and fucking kill yourself

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>>34576708
Looks like an old school hiker boot like a Merrell Wilderness, or euro equivalent.

>>34577602
kys

>>34577422
the ukranian one

I have a multicam TAP vest with minimal use, how much should I sell it for?

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>>34571045
for the love of God, get a subdued flag already!

>>34577299
>>34577319
>>34577379
>>34577671
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXnCBrV61uc

Dont just take anon's word for it, watch this

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>>34578147
never

Where can I get an ir american flag in multicam?

>>34578214
How about it weighs as much as an ACH, is stupid thick, and the shitty suspension probably kicks it back so that 1inch bfd becomes a 3 pound one inch punch flying towards your head rapidly.

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>>34577783
Oh shit looks like it. Thank you my man

>>34577033
>>34577048
>>34577091
>>34577123
Thank you. I was looking at a number of companies. Maybe armour wear, though someone wasn't happy with them. Trying to keep my options open.

Looking for a low vis plate carrier that can accept level 4 plates. will a tag havoc work?

>>34578263
>and the shitty suspension
Its a 1:1 patent infringement clone of the Team Wendy CAM FIT system

>>34578361
Wow that is cheap.

>>34578241
Patch of whole flag?

What size plate carrier will fit me? I wear a xxl shirt and I am 225 pounds 6 foot tall

>>34578241
http://www.optactical.com/flagpatches.html

>>34578428
Patch

>>34578428
Cheap how? What about an eagle lvac

>>34578445
I would go SAPI Large or XL for you.

>>34578460
That should be easy to find. OPTac should have something.

>>34578483
https://www.cryeprecision.com/ProductDetail/blc04202xl0_jumpable-plate-carrier-jpc
So this in xl should fit me?

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>>34577281
Ignore anyone suggesting anything but Norwegian M77 combat boots.

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Any recommendations to upgrade or rearrange? I have a glock bag that I have a 2.5 litter bladder for hydration and a basic g17 gen 3

>>34578621
Is that pouch next to your holster a med pouch?

>>34578647
Yes

>>34578621
I think overall its fine, but a few upgrades id make... (not a criticism just you asked)

- An IFAK that is a tear away. I spent many years with a non tear away ifak and im glad i upgraded.

- Might as well replace the closed AR mag pouch with another taco or open pouch. Just for fluidity. If I were you id consider replacing it with one of the tacos on the belt. Since you don't have suspenders I usually dont recommend two AR mags on the belt.

-Add a TQ to the belt, if its not in the IFAK. The belt is perfect as a way to have the minimum supplies, if you have to drop your chest rig or PC.

-A sling

-Adjust the belt to the perfect area, and secure the excess straps better. Ive used that buckle before and it works well, but It still can have movement. Not much you can, but it is what it is.

- Ditch the grenade pouch and add an admin pouch. You can do far more with nav gear, note taking gear, and a radio, than you can do with one grenade.

Just my 2 cents. Overall not really bad. Just giving some ideas.

Is the rats tq any good?

>>34578831
Its the hipoint of the TQ world. 5/10 bait

>>34578847
Not even highpoint. Highpoints work. rat TQs are utter garbo

Where would one go to find rigs built for taller gents? Am 6'6 but all of my height is in my torso and the standard plates and rigs come down to about mid stomach on me.

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>>34578955
That's sort of intentional-- it allows you to still have full range of motion.

>>34578902
Pretty much

>>34578955
Not sure what you mean? If your talking about chest rigs, there is a reason they are called chest rigs. They arent meant to be belly rigs. They arent supposed to be on your upper pec. But either way, I know most rigs ive tried on have a ton of fabric to adjust with.
Also you can buy S M L plate carriers? And plate carriers arent supposed to protect your groin. So im not sure what you mean.

I think they probably fit you fine, and your over estimating the protection of what a PC is supposed to give you. Most people over size them, and they are doing it wrong. Someone will post the infographic and show whats its supposed to cover.

>>34578982
>>34578981
Looking for something that would fit further down and end closer to the hip, was looking at 10x14 plates for better coverage area

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>>34578559
Yeah the XL carrier will definitely fit. Are you basically fat? Or just very muscular? I'm going off of the XXL shirt you wear. I am 6 foot and 200lbs, and I wear medium or large shirts. XL SAPI in a large/XL carrier was too big for me.

>>34578621
Rotate your image first of all. Solid setup.


>>34578831
No.


Velocity Systems LWPC came. Pretty happy with it.

>>34579100
pics

>>34579148
Patience Leaf!

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>>34573511

I like mine a lot. Very comfortable padding. I had to do a hack to the cummerbund to make it fit me but I'm a hungry hungry skellington. Comes with the Mayflower APC style quick clips and the hook and loop to match if you are into that. The shoulders make it easy to route hydration tubes.

If there was 1 downside, it's that while it is capable of taking side plates, it doesn't fit the soft inserts I rat fucked.

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Anyone have any experience with any of the different models of Splav kneepads? I'm ordering some stuff from Russia, and I can pick up a pair pretty cheaply as part of the order.

>>34579275
The only kneepads worth a shit are either arcteryx or built in (Crye, soft inserts,etc)

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>>34579300
agreed

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>>34579222
Wut is rat fucked?

>>34579275
They get recommended by the slavaboos, and I think they look kinda cool. No actual experience though.


Bunch of initial impressions of the shit I ordered during the 4th of July sales incoming. Haven't operated in any of it yet, but I should be this coming weekend.

Okay so first up is the HSGI AO Small chest rig. This is a swift clip compatible molle panel chest rig with velcro on the rear and 6 side release buckles total, two on top and two on each side.

It is quite well thought out. What I like most is that is that the panel has a sort of interior pouch that one could use to stuff the velcro cover panel when you're actually interfacing with a carrier. The chest rig straps could also go in there during a pinch. nice touch. Has a drag handle, and build quality seems solid. Definitely has inspired me to eventually replace my ATS war belt with the HSGI sure grip. HSGI calls this an 8 molle column panel, but if you're running Fight Light Malice clips you could utilize it as a 10 molle column panel because there are the corresponding loops on either side for two extra columns.

On the chest rig so far I've got the Tactical Tailor canteen pouch. I took this off of my war belt because it was a little hard to use behind the back. Should perform better up front now. Kinda overbuilt, the ATS small upright GP pouches make better Nalgene pouches. I've also got the Tactical Tailor Fight Light smoke pouch. This pouch also seems solid, much less overbuilt than the other Tactical Tailor non Fight Light stuff I've got. Fits a genuine M18 smoke perfectly. I've also got a double stack ATS mag shingle. This shingle is pretty light, durable, and I've used it a bit on my battle belt. Doesn't leave much to be desired except sometimes getting mags in can take a second, and it certainly isn't optimized for speed reloads.

Currently still have 4 columns of molle free. Looking for recommendations for what else to put on the chest rig. Mags?

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>>34579408
>Wut is rat fucked?
Taking the best parts of a MRE or rig and leaving all the shit

>that photo
It looks really good, im impressed

>Looking for recommendations for what else to put on the chest rig. Mags?
Nalgenes
>>34579377
BUT DUDE SQUATNIK PADS ARE ONLY $30 VS $59 FOR ARCTERYX!!!!!

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>>34579435
b-b-but anon told me real operators don't wear arc'teryx!!1

>>34579408
Ah, thanks anyway. I think I'm just gonna go for it. I mean, for $20 it can't be a terrible decision, right? Worst comes to worst, they look cool.

>>34579435
>>34579481
sigh

>>34579520
>Worst comes to worst, they look cool.
Ask Nick about his knees after the last airshitterwest event

>>34579526
Actually, that is a good idea. Maybe the airshitters would know, thanks.

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>>34579435
This fucking image still makes me lol.

>Impressed
for $69 so am I. Comes with straps, and HSGI build quality is good to go. I might buy a second to keep as a spare for when I eventually do an AR10 rig.
>Who cares you can't afford it anyway and tomorrow you'll be asking about something else.

I was thinking another double stack ATS mag pouch for 4 rifle mags total, and then maybe Another smoke pouch? Or a micro IFAK so that the chest rig can act as a standalone rig by itself if need be.

Where is Giddy? I want him to tell me if my plates give enough coverage. I took a picture just for him.

I also got a Velocity Systems Lightweight Plate Carrier. I got it in small/medium with large cummerbund on clearance from ATArmor for $135 shipped. I think I got their last Multicam one because I don't see any more. For Anon who was asking about ATArmor, they are most certainly good to go. I pestered them about shipping since they were taking a while (they're in the middle of relocating), and they were responsive by email right away. Little handwritten thank you note with the invoice. Would order from them again, except their inventory is kinda thin.

The LWPC is definitely lightweight. Much lighter than my previous 6094 AWS OCPC. I look forward to seeing how it holds up because you can definitely tell that it is 500D. Design is nice. Holds my Armour Wear 10x12" plates decently well, but the plates are a bit "short", still not too much slop in the plate pouch. Hook and loop is quality, genuine multicam, stitching looks solid with double stitching and reinforced stitching in several key places. I was worried about the shoulder pads as they don't look substantial, but they seem like they will be fine. I imagine Medium SAPIs would fit in here like a glove. My only complaints are that my 10x12" Armour Wears (Actually baby 9.5x11.25") don't fit quite as tight as I'd like, and the shoulder pads aren't removable unless you cut them.

>>34579585
>for $69 so am I
I meant the photo, that rig looks like shit
>Where is Giddy? I want him to tell me if my plates give enough coverage. I took a picture just for him.
He was in arg earlier
>Armour Wears (Actually baby 9.5x11.25") don't fit quite as tight as I'd like
Get some tax return soft armor and throw it in there

>>34571441
>>34573864
I would recommend cutting the hard plastic before removing the cups them selves.

Whats a good camo for appalachian mountains virginia besides multicam tropic

>>34579823
Fleckmeme and m81 woodland

>>34579837
Those camos dont have much for plate carriers and chest rigs

>>34579868
In that case go with flat OD green with the camo of your choice underneath

>>34579868
m81 woodland can be found, you can also do OD pouches on it if it bothers you

>>34579882
Link me some woodland plate carriers then

>>34579880
I am an austist my camo needs to be the same or it will trigger me

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>>34579868
DC3R comes in woodland.
Legit Flecktarn gear is out there, just kinda hard to find.

>>34579692
>Tax return soft armor
Is there any real benefit to putting that behind level IV standalone ceramics? How heavy are they? About how much is the cost?


Here is the HSGI AO chest rig mounted on the LWPC. Clips together quite securely, plus there is the massive hook and loop panel underneath.

Just need to finish the chest rig.

>>34579910
Damn shame. best of luck m8

>>34579913
Yeah but good woodland combat shirts are like $500.

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>>34579899
http://lbtinc.com/6094c
http://www.beezcombatsystems.com/BCS-Plate-Carrier-Cumber-BCS-PC-C.htm
http://www.ronintactics.com/store/p54/Ronin_Assaulter_Lite_%28AL%29.html
>>34579928
Have one made to fit or get a beyond A-9
>>34579913
>Is there any real benefit to putting that behind level IV standalone ceramics?
Cant hurt
>How heavy are they?
Light, remind me and ill pull the one I have in my carrier
>About how much is the cost?
$99 for new, $cheap for tax return

>>34579928
https://beyondclothing.com/collections/a9-uniforms/products/a9-mission-shirt?variant=34457115469
180 bucks

>>34579928
Get digi flora

>>34579928
Why bother with combat shirts when you can get a whole set of good woodland BDUs for like $50?
Also listen to A2 and get the Ronin Tactics Woodland Carrier. Only $215. That is solid.

You could come in with all your soft gear for under $350 easily.

>>34579950
Definitely doesn't hurt. If they aren't too heavy or expensive, might be neat.

>>34579962
Digi flora looks good I will get it

>>34579913

Is there any real benefit to putting that behind level IV standalone ceramics? How heavy are they? About how much is the cost?

soft armor prices vary greatly, the benefit is added ballistic protection in some cases where you have less coverage with amall plates, also you get somjem impact reduction becasue it helps to distribute the impact force if you get hit. beyond that,its am meme some units in the military use. The added weight might not be great too, unless you are using it to cover less critical areas not covered by small plates

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>>34575917
The peltor rangemasters have a 3.5mm port you can use, it works well with the baofeng.

>>34580016
why not get a moisture wicking tshirt and sew woodland cammo sleeves onto it, probably cost ya 50$

>>34579823
Here is some Flecktarn stuff. The link is to a PC, but there is other stuff on the website too, including TACO-style mag pouches, all in Flecktarn, or 5FT as they call it.

https://www.zentauron.de/en/plate-carrier/334-plate-carrier-vulcan.html

>>34580037
classic raid mod there

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>>34580019
well that settles that I guess.

>>34580023
I can probably get some back of the truck specials being so close to so many bases. I've got 10x12"s that I guess are a little small, more than anything they just have a little bit of room inside the carrier. I haven't run around yet in it though so I don't know the extent of the issue.

>>34580034
Do they automatically switch between ambient mics and 3.5mm input? Thanks for advice.

>>34580037
Because unless you actually know how to sew that could come out like shit. Not a terrible idea though.

>>34580060
That is pretty neat. There definitely is some legit Fleck stuff out there since Fleck is still in use.

>>34580019
grey-shop.ru
Best place to buy digi flora

>>34580109
There is also Lindnerhof Taktik, if you thought Crye was overpriced.

https://www.hqg.de/hqg/en/shop/Tactical-Gear/Categories/Pouches/Ammunition-Pouches/Multi+Caliber+Pouch+HL+II/?card=14146

>>34579585
What is the point of having that massive molle panel at the bottom? Isn't that where the mag pouches should go?

>>34580135
>Part Taco
>Part shingle
>Laser cut molle
>Fleck
>All sexy

Pretty expensive though. Neat.

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>>34580157
The massive velcro panel?

It is so you can swap front panels on and off easily, or integrate chest rigs like the Mayflower or the DC3R.

>>34580173
If velcro is the only thing holding onto the panel (which will hold even hevier things), that doesn't sound secure at all.

>>34580178
theres 4 buckles that attach as well

>>34580178
Look at the pictures Anon. There are 6 side release buckles as well. I'll be running around and shooting in it next week so I'll report back. But don't believe me, the swiftclip and hook/loop panel has been around for a minute now and actual operators like it.

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>>34580109
I think they both play at once but Ill try and check this weekend.

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>>34576616
like dis?

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Anyone here have the crye JPC? What are your experiences with it?

>>34580291
Go find Dan. He might be in /arg/. He likes his. CRYE is obviously good to go.

>>34580224
Interesting. I'm tired of my squealing Howard Leights.

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>>34580291
Anyone here have sharp stick? What are your experiences with it?

>>34579954
>new beyond combat shirt
>good
uhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>34580359
You look like Garand Thumb.

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T-2000

>>34580384
That's the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me.

>>34580359
>>34580398
Git

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>>34580398
You gonna go kill some darkies with that rifle boyh?

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>>34580408
Can't claim GQ all for yourself..

>>34580423
Just kangz

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>>34580423
I suppose now is a good time to stop lurking.

>>34580398
But like a more Jewish GT.

>>34580448
What is going on here?

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>>34580366
Sharp stick bad, Grock brand Grock or wide stick better. Sharp stick only snap. Use hunting proven tech.

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>>34580490
>But like a more Jewish GT.
He is the true israelite unlike you
>>34580448
>dat glass
thicccc

>>34580490
Looks like he tried to take apart his $700 russian helmet and broke the glass

>>34580504
>paying $700 for one
Maybe if you like getting shafted by protoslavs

>>34580510
nights of vodka and borscht...brings me back

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>>34580486
Shiiiiieeeet, nice FNC, autosear? how well do those grenades launch with 5.56 blanks?

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>>34580490
Stupid nose....

Had to see what was inside.

>>34580501
Too thicc 4 u.

>>34580504
>>34580510
Pppff I give you good deal $3500 shipped
http://www.depotmilitary.com/index.php?id=51

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>>34580562
Im just fucking around. I pulled it off facebook for my "want" folder.

the guy has some cool shit.

>>34580577
Nigga needs to spend his budget on some carpet

>>34580576
The contents of that dresser are far more interesting than the helmets atop

>>34580576
>just ruined a $3500 helmet, irreparably

welp, that sucks for you

>>34580501
What cut are those plates?
Why so many chem lights?
Where is his water?

>>34580448
Wow that shit is thick.

>>34580636
>What cut are those plates?
Something gucci
>Why so many chem lights?
Implying
>Where is his water?
In the pack I would assume.

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>>34580609
Shhhh

>>34580613
Was broken when I got it, I'll sell it to you for 1k good deal much rare.

>>34571210
This meme shit just got destroyed lol. Dragon skin confirmed best technology.

>>34574573

>>34574573

Nty, going with a foretrex 401. For the money why not go with say, a Silencerco Radius?

Also

>G-Shock or F-11W for time

>>34579377
That's matt fuckin best

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>>34579837
This desu

>>34581314
Do you have a JPC? If so, how is it?

>>34581347
I've owned 3. Not the greatest ever, nowhere near the worst. The comfort leaves something to be desired however they offer great benifits in weight savings and size. They are 'minimalist' carriers by nature however you should have no problem building them into a sufficient fighting system.

>>34581370
Basically they're aight. Not great. Not bad.

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>>34577413
Make sure you oil the 520GVs
And the GTX blow out, had 2 pair

>>34581314
Arent those expensive as fuck. I am only looking to spend $600 for a combat shirt, pants, and a plate carrier.

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>>34579795
So you're saying cutting the plastic shell to make removing the inner rings easier is a better solution?

Or are you saying cutting the shell seems like a better solution than peeling the different cups off the plastic rings?

Pic very related.Please be patient, I have autism.

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So, when they say 'bump helmet', would just any bike helmet from Walmart do, or should I shell for one of the more expensive 'operator' type helmets?

I mean, you can just *buy* rails, and I've got plenty of camouflage fabric to turn into a cover.

>>34582265
Get one from an airshit website for $50.

>>34582265
i mean the real important thing a helmet can mount is a NVD, so figure that out first if you ever think you might want NODs

>>34582287
I hope you realize those are chink reproductions that are not ANZI rated and if you fall on them you will crack ya damn head open.

>>34580788
Because the Silencerco Radius is a range finder? Its a completely different product? And the time reference is really just to show prolonged battery life. Its highly un likely that youd use the GPS mode for 48 hrs straight too. But 48 hours of GPS usage can last a week if you only use a few hours a day. So its just a reference. Personally yeah I use a separate watch for time.

I recommend the 401 for the price, but if you have extra dosh and your a gq the extra features are worth the 100$ price increase.

>>34578214
who is that spic that shoots?

>>34580651
I think that's just some BPRE cosplay?

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Airshit to the max sorry

>>34581314
beautiful

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>ywn have qt gear gf
why live

>>34584438
I've always seen it titled with black powder, red earth, or whatever that graphic novel was called

>>34570876
What if I purposely chose steel train a la crossfit faggot? Need dat weight and drop resistance.

>>34580636
those plates are velocity system's special threat ULV plates

they were issued to state dept. contractors in Iraq