/akg/ AK General

>AK Buyer's Guide

http://pastebin.com/YdEkhdva

very ef-ay. are those actual issued bags or just bags that someone dyed?

>>34517474
>that gas tube
Mhhhmmmm

>>34517496
barrel looks pretty damn thin too

>>34517481
Romanian blue bags.
I just think they weren't the greatest at getting the color the same, batch to batch.

>>34517481
They're actual pouches, Romanian

I was wondering if you'd do anything for the thread # OP

What AK should I buy Chimps-sensei?

>>34517432

Makes sense. But functionally it should be a fine rifle, correct?

My other option at this point is a WASR, and I'd rather no Y/I stamp than no dimples, and apparently the Polish guns have a much better fit and finish.

>>34517535
yes

>>34517499
It loos like a Mak-90 that someone converted with an AKM FSB

>>34517547
I'd go ahead and get a Polish parts kit, FB radom barrel, Childers receiver with all the fixin's and build yourself as exact a rifle you can. The WBP new parts kits are "meh" at best.

>>34517517
>I was wondering if you'd do anything for the thread # OP
I was trying my hardest to find an out of focus/blurry pic of an AK by a lake, but no joy.
Can't believe we're at 350 already.
It's only been a year since I started the numbering.

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Who is this, has to be someone here.

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Y stamp maadi

>>34517574
>yes, it's only the memesters here and "internet virgins" that need to get laid more that hate that fuck

>>34517578
Does it have the I stamp on the other side?

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>>34517578
Pretty good trial run from my local builder in WA state. He built my FAL but this is the first time I've used him for AK work.

>>34517602
Did you just have him work on the gas block and FSB?

>>34517594
Yes

>>34517607
Yes, replaced with unfucked versions from an egyptian kit.

>>34517560
That'll be significantly pricier though, right?

>>34517637
>Yes
Post pics then

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>>34517548
Sasuga, Chimps-sensei. Your AK knowledge knows no bounds

>just sent payment for that pro+matech
Feelsgoodtbh

>>34517642
A bit, and you'll need to have some patience. If I were you, buying a parts kit build, I'd do the same. Otherwise just get a WASR for plinking.

>>34517637
>Yes, replaced with unfucked versions from an egyptian kit.
Nice. How much did it run you and who exactly did it.
>tfw no local AK builders so I don't have someone local to ship off my Bulgy AK parts kit off to.

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>>34517602
Who in WA? I eventually want to do the same for my Maadi and it'd be cool supporting a local guy as long as he's good

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>>34517644
Ok

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>>34517682
Blackwell Industries, in Renton

>>34517691
Good boy. Any plans on replacing the selector stop with the one from the parts kit and getting the selector markings done?

>>34517661
>do the same
and get the WBP build from Atlantic?
Or build the exact rifle I want?

>>34517699
>>34517682
How are the laws in WA as far as guns go? I thought you guys had universal background checks and some other stuff?

>>34517712
If the WBP rifle is exactly what you want, then get it. If you're like 90% of this board, then get the parts kit, etc

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>>34517715
Really good. We get it all except no transferable MG's. So you need an 07/02

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>>34517711
That's a bit too autistic for me. If I had lots of cash laying around and needed another project, maybe.

Still need to get receivers for my '86 krink and '70 ddr. Then file paperwork for the krink and an AMD length 7.62 sbr on childers receiver. So 3 more builds will keep me busy for a while. Then it's to find a new tula kit since I parted out the one chimps sold me.

>>34517737
>pronouncing it like "Oh-seven slash oh-two"
Hmmm

>>34517719
Okay, thanks! I'll think on it.

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>>34517813
>oh one oh seven
That's how it's said irl

How are those new Serbian BHOs from Apex for like 8 bucks a pop? Thinking about replacing all my range magpuls/US PALMs with them.

>>34517981
They're shit, just like the Croatian mags.

>>34518036
How so?

>>34517981
I'd avoid.
Too many people say they are out of spec and will not rock in.
Someone claimed this has been fixed, but I'd pass.

>>34518036
They're actually the same mags, just passed off as different.
>Just as some places claim they're "new production Yugo" mags

>>34518037
>out of spec
>poor quality control
Just check out Robski's video or the myriad of other videos addressing them.

>>34518058
I saw the Croatian one but no Serbian one on Robski's channel. I'm trying not to be spponfed but honestly I don't see anything on YouTube about these Serbian mags.

>>34518101
They're identical.

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I ordered an RPK sling for my girl. I shouldn't have but I am of weak will

What are some good heat-resistant polymer hand-guards?
I have some ak-102-style polymer hand-guards with a heat shield but they become incredibly hot to the touch after only about 60-80rds on a 7.62x39 AK.

>>34518301
>ak-102-style polymer hand-guards
Gloves

>>34518301
That's what gloves are for.
There's no such thing, and as long as they're not on fire you'll have to suck it up and deal.

>>34517637
Is there something wrong with the egyptian parts?

>>34518293
how do you like the POSP scope mount systen? im thinking of installing one on my SKS

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>>34518332
I like it a lot. I plan on adding multiple PSO's to my collection when I've got the money for it too
>still need to kms for not being able to buy the izzy one

>>34517578
What receiver is that?

>>34518345
Probably the one that came on the rifle?

>>34517678
Why would you build a bulgy kit, why not just buy an arsenal?

hows those chiappa 9mm aks?
saw 1 recently for like 400.
was way heavier than it prolly shoulda been but didnt seem any worse built than a IO in full fuckin-x39

Anyone know where I can buy a legitimate Izhevsk bayonet? Can't find anything on AK files atm

>>34517800
Where can I get a ddr kit?

>>34518360
Because I already have one. I wanted a fixed stock rifle that I could build as close to a military rifle as possible, ie Y/I stamps, Bulgarian military selector/markings, and not side mount.

>>34518367
Which Type?

>>34517719
Different anon. I really like authenticity, but I have never owned an AK before. Should I get a kit and have it built for my first rifle or should I just save my money and buy an arsenal slr 104?

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>>34518326
When it was imported, the bayonet lug was cut and the front sight was welded to a nut. When I removed the thread protector nut the retainer plunger was stuck inside the front sight post, so I said fuck it and got them both replaced with sexy ones.

>>34518345
Egyptian

>>34518378
Ak files or arms of america if they are still in stock.

>>34518351
Where I mean if you had it built, which receiver did you use? Most of the kits I see do not have kits.

>>34518467
First off, I'm not the owner of the rifle but reading his posts, he pretty clearly had a Maadi sporter that he used the parts of a Maadi parts kit to deban.

>>34518438
>Ak files or arms of america if they are still in
>stock.
Will check these out. Thanks.

>>34518434
First rifle should probably be a pre-built rifle imho.

>>34518516
>this
Then you delve into the autism build.

>>34518516
Thanks, thats what I've heard. Another question, is 5.45 a good caliber to get into AKs with? I love the look of the AK 74 rifles, but the 7n6 ammo getting b& has me a bit worried.

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>>34518539
iktf too well

>>34518564
5.45 is great. Same commercial availability as 7.62x39, just buy online. 7n6 has been banned 2014 and commercial made 5.45 has only gotten more available.

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>>34518584
great!! Should I get pic related or an slr104-34? I like both stocks, would it be easy to put a triangle stock on a 104-31 or vise versa?

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I've got an Arsenal 107R coming in Thursday as well as a cncwarrior 14LH to M24 adapter to put on an arsenal 74 style brake on it.

I assume the slots are for the detent pin, but what holds the brake on besides the threads? I'm worried that the brake will slowly walk itself out or not time correctly to allow the ports to do their job?

Sorry if this picture is for ants.

>>34518667
Where are you finding an SLR104-34? If it's the same price then I'd go with it since you can always get an Arsenal polymer stock later. The rear trunnion and pin are identical, both 4.5mm pins with the hinge/trunnion/stock mechanism function identical to the AKS-74.

>>34518720
The detent's are big enough to still stop the brake. It's a pain in the ass set up tbqh though, the adapter will want to rotate on it's own from the brake, the only way to really solve this is to figure out which detent is the tightest on your rifle, then mark it, then weld your 24mm brake onto the adapter with the tightest and the detent of the brake lining up completely.

>>34517474
Hey /akg/, I have decided that my first rifle will indeed be an AK variant. Congrats on convincing me the superiority of an AK compared to an AR. I am wondering if I should get a 7.62 (47) or a 5.45 (74). I understand 7.62 is much cheaper and easier to get, and I would like that heavy round in case I wish to go hunting, but is there a lot of difference in power with the 5.45? any help appreciated

>>34518746
I'm confused. How will the adapter rotate if the detent pin is in the slot? Sounds like a real pain in the ass.

I was hoping it would be a simple screw on job, but then I realized the brake had nothing to stop it from coming loose.

Also how will the detent pin be big enough to stop the brake, but still allow the brake to pass over them to fit flush against the FSB?

>>34518757

7.62 is best ak

>>34518757
get 5.45 and kill the taliban

So i've been obsessed with AK's lately and I was wondering if getting an n pap m92 pistol with the SB pistol brace and Krebs flash hider was worth it. I want an Sbr without the paperwork. Also can you fit a side mounted optics rail on them.

>>34518757
I started on 5.45 and have 0 ragrets. But I also got into it for like 1/5th the price most people would have to. Would honestly recc just buying both but start on 7.62 unless you can find a cheap 104fr

>>34518789
It will rotate because in order to put the brake on your have to push in the detent which makes the adapter want to move. The detent pin WILL stop the brake, the adapter will just want to move every time you push in the detent.

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Guys what is the deal with arsenal's "plum" furniture? It looks more brown. Did any countries use this plum for their army?

>>34518343
>Can't buy the cool Izhmash marked one
>Can afford to buy another PRO you're not gonna use
hmmmm

>>34518847
>can afford to flip something for quick $$$
>can't afford to tie up $400 in a collector item
Fiscal responsibility bro, I've been hella broke with lack of work lately and needing to buy a new car. Next week I'm talkin with my employer for more work so hopefully things will change for the better real quick

>>34518843
The Russians never made a plum polymer sidefolding stock. You're better off buying the first 104 you can find and a triangle folder, then the authentic plum furniture.

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>>34518843
Nope. It's just because people love their plum. I like the look tbqh, I regret not getting the plum model when I got my SLR-104FR

>>34518865
I'm just joshin u m8

>>34518876
I'm sensitive right now ok ;-;

It's like when I missed the Chinese PSOs a few months ago. Wasn't 100% sold on em since they only mount to chinese rails that don't exist tho

>>34518873

dat bayonet tho

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>>34518873
>I regret not getting the plum model

I regret not buying two 104s because I swap back and forth between wood and plum so often, but sometimes I want to 74m LARP too so.

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/akg/, redpill me on the INSAS. WTF is this thing?

>>34518893
Hmm?
>>34518901
I regret not getting one in 2011 for $800 or whatever, or buying a dozen at that price (if I could)

>>34518906
Horrible. Imagine the wartime issues of hand made German Volkssturm weapons, except 10x worse.

>Caved in and bought magazines for a gun I don't even have yet
No turning back now, AUG will be mine

>>34518893
6x5s a best, I need to sell all of my Bulgarian ones and just buy an Izhmash already

>>34518584
>>34518812

I want an slr 104, but can't afford one right now. Should I get a used tantal for $500 or save my money for the arsenal?

>>34518953
What kind of tantal?

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>>34518933
>6x5s a best
You misspelled 6x9-1, but at least the 6x5s are obtainable.

>>34518953
Save your money

>>34518962
Nah 6x5s are the most aesthetic bayonet

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>>34518962
>tfw was trying to source a 6x9-1 for a while
>tfw the new crackdowns make an already difficult item basically impossible

>>34518828
That makes more sense.

I also thought to put the brake on the adapter first but since it's left hand threads with a right threaded brake when I try to screw it on the brake will loosen up.

It'll be fun trying to get this to work. Maybe a crush washer will help keep the brake from turning?

>>34518987
If you find 2, I will personally go there and get them out.

>>34519044
Are you fucking illiterate? I've said this two or three times now, the brake WILL INTERACT WITH THE DETENT PIN. The problem is that the adapter will want to spin as you put the brake on.

>>34519079
I fell out of contact with the dude I buy stuff from. Last I heard is he wasn't willing to ship them himself but when importbro was still around at least, he was willing to look for one and then bounce it around in russia to someone who was willing to send it to me. Never got farther than that. And honestly seeing how there's never been any new pics of them I'm guessing they were scrapped along with some other things in the RATNIK and AK-74M upgrade programs, so it's entirely possible no one will ever see them

>>34519098
I wonder what happened to import-anon.
Last time I saw him in the thread it was still about those Yugo mags he was selling/sold to AIM.
>it's entirely possible no one will ever see them
Kampo still has a product page for them, but you're probably right.

>>34519181
Probably just moved on. Sucks cause he was cool to talk too

>>34519189
Maybe he'll pop back up when there's some neat stuff coming.
>with all the sanctions and other bullshit, probably not any time soon though.

>>34517481
> ef-ay

lol wut. Are you trying to say "effete?"

>>34517574
how 2 screenshot
how 2 clean monitor
how 2 kill self

Anyone have pictures of the selector markings on a Bulgarian AK-74?

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where can I get a quart of Rosneft or gazeprom motor oil to lube my ad's with.

>>34519261
Not him but >>>/fa/

>>34519320
>lube my ad's with
Just describe your item better and have good pics, it'll sell

>Both companies sanctioned
kek

what does the Russian army lube their weapons with, anyone have concrete evidence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNN0HyO3rM4&spfreload=10

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>>34519080
I meant the adapter you faggot. A crush washer to stop the adapter from turning while I screw on the brake.

Must you go full fucking sperg?

REEEEEEEE I HAD TO COMMENT ABOUT HOW MAD I AM REEEEEE

>>34519351
>Undertale
Gas yourself

>>34519357
>I meant the adapter you faggot
Which is why you said that... oh wait, you didn't. How about you fuck off then, I didn't even have to try to help you. kys

Any ak mag adapters that are pop in and not permanent?

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I just picked up 5 east german 74 bakes for $130 shipped, comes with a east german rain pouch. How'd I do guys? I don't see much east german stuff for sale so thought it was a good deal. 26 bucks a magazine, cheaper then I can find most 74 mags that are worth a damn.

>>34519320

>Not using ALG go juice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwKrgJ_CG0M&spfreload=10

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>>34519364
how would I even put a crush washer to stop the brake from turning? Fuck yourself

I mistakenly put brake and you sperged out.

I hope you have an overcharged round blow your AK to shit and permanently blind you or put a bolt carrier through your eye socket.

>>34519404
This is why this board is going to shit, fuck yourself faggot

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>>34519410

>>34519409
Yeah this board is going to shit because people don't like being insulted over a typo while having a polite conversation before one person sperged out over a misplaced word.

Better wear that eyepro.

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>>34519351

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>>34519550

>>34519550

Can someone translate these?

>>34519576
>not for internal use blyaaatt XD

>>34519550

interesting, thats the first I've ever heard or seen of the Russian militaries actual lubricant, if my translation is right it mentions it can stay the effects of corrosive ammo short term and is for cleaning and lubing.

>>34519576>>34519554
Maslo is oil/butter second word is rifle, something something weapons blurry af

>>34519550

is that a metal can?

>>34519550

If you own this item I'll give you $150 for it, let me know.

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>>34519550
>russian motor oil for ant cars

>>34519657

Will you take $150 shipped?

>>34519661
For what?
A picture I found on the internet?
>SOLD! to the retard with too much money.

>>34519665
in his defense, he did ask before if you own it.

>>34519676
>2 different posters
>I even mocked him for posting a thumbnail
pls go and stay go

>>34519681
it's not a thumbnail, it's just a small picture you retard. fucking summer.

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>>34519683

>>34519694
go to bed kid

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>>34519694
>>34519698
you 2 shut the fuck up back there or im pulling this thread over right here and beating your asses raw i swear to fuck

what mosquito spray do you guys use when you go to shoot in this shit ass swamp of summer?

>>34519709
Thanks for really ruining the thread.

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>>34519713
the cloud of fumes from us freebasing hoppes and my very toxic blood keeps them away
>>34519715
always a pleasure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvVEEPBDoio

>>34517474
just got a SAIGA and looking to convert it into a more "traditional" looking AK. how much of a nightmare am I heading into

>>34519715
I just came back after 36 years at /pol/ and this is the first post I saw, so I won't be back for another 63 decades.

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>>34519698

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Post AK

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>>34519709
Quit yelling Lady.
Have some Korobovs, they are relaxing.
>Unless you want to know how they work.

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>>34519729

I'm the faggot who wants that genuine slavaboo slippery fluid.

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>>34519729
k
>>34519730
i know how they work and it haunts me
goodnight

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>>34519730

my korobov aufbtomatt, holy shit

>>34519734
Best I can do for you.
Good luck

http://rpch.ru/en/catalog/rust-preventing-greases/gun-oil-rzh/

>>34519739

thats some dank ass shit.

>>34519744
And if it doesn't work out, allegedly AeroShell 18 is a reasonable facsimile of it.

http://www.theakforum.net/forums/14-general-discussion/71115-soviet-rifle-lubrication-almost-exact-substitute.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gpGqGHEr_8&spfreload=10

>>34519737
Your kind will be the first on the day of the rope
https://youtu.be/NBCGe9asUvs
Enjoy your decadence and attention whoring while it lasts.

Those push buttons on the side folding stocks, how hard should they be? I picked up an sbr draco with one today and the button wouldnt go in, I didnt try very hard but I couldnt get it in with the amount of effort I figured would be necessary. It had a faux suppressor pinned to make it legal.

Also, do you think its ok to buy an AK with the intention of swapping out some parts to make it function like an AK? It had a buffer pad and when I took it off the bolt got stuck back so I figured it would need a need hold carrier and maybe a recoil spring to function properly. For $650 it seemed constructed well enough despite that. I'm pretty tired, so this might be a bad idea but it appeals to me right now.

>>34519886
>sbr draco
>It had a faux suppressor pinned to make it legal.

>>34519886
Post a pic of this "draco"

>>34518906
Indian Poo. I wouldn't want a gun from a culture that still shits in the street.

>>34518865
What kind of work do you do? How old are you anyway?

>>34520081
A professional concert ticket scalper if I had to guess. Probably has an entire room full of SNES minis.

>>34520081
He works in an opium den

>>34518906
An AKM with the FCG and gas system from a FNC. Not a terrible design inherently but because of how terrible India is at manufacturing, most actual examples of the rifle are terrible in every regard.

>>34519391
Pretty decent. Even better if they aren't the ones century bubba'd to try and feed .223/5.56. (They should be functional in 5.45 regardless)

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Thinking about putting a SOB47 brace on this pistol but I might not like it. What do you guys think?

>>34520338
I think you made a horrible decision with that purchase.

>>34520348

400 rounds , FTF and FTE with the mags that came with it but actual beretta mags run flawless.

>>34520357
Still a horrible choice

>>34520366

Why is that? It's a pistol , that's going to have a brace on it , same mags as my actual pistol , and something that can be fed cheaply that's reliable.

>>34520386
Because no only is it ugly but it's worthless as anything but a plinker. It's barely even AK shaped and has proprietary everything.

>>34520396

Most fun things are proprietary. It's worth being a HD gun and for my wife to use as her go to rifle until I can shell out for a better PCC or just tax stamp this thing.

It's reliable , takes common mags , built like a Russian dirty whore. It works fine and I don't see rifle parts breaking from pistol ammo any time soon. Also it is built on a AKM receiver , handgaurd is odd because it has to hold the mag adapter in place. Sure when I have enough time might be able to widdle a wood handuard as a time killer.

>>34520449
>trusting your wife's life to lol9mm

>>34520449
Not the guy who is bashing it but im Interested in them becuase i love pcc stuff but god damn are they ugly.
Look forward to a better mag adapter

>>34520457

Least I have a wife. Anyways I think 147grn HST +P will work fine.

>>34520468
They are ugly , but as a PCC it runs great and it's compatible with my 92 so looks aside it works great. Also when I'm not working 60hr weeks I'm wanting to widdle a handgaurd to replace it , seems simple just a pain in the ass.

>>34520449
You gotta be kidding me. The most important part of feed reliability is the consistent positioning of the magazine. This depends on the handguard?

>>34520487
Look forward to seeing how it develops

>>34517547
Yes function wise it's ok if an AK doesn't have the y and i stampings for a third pin since most of us here will never own select fire weapons. It'll be fine anon.

>>34520449
>widdle
>>34520487
>widdle
It's whittle. Dumbass

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>>34520493

Yep. The handgaurd is a solid piece with small lugs closing the gap in the magwel with a hole to add the adapter. Also has one to work with glock mags.

>>34520502
Same just need a lot of time. Only thing that will be a pain in the ass is the cut out for the mag adapter.

>>34520506
Meh.

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>>34520545
>roll pins
Ew.

>>34520560
It doesn't have a gas system so those parts aren't actually under any stress

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>>34520589
Niether is the fsb on an ak. Still solid pin>roll pin.

>>34518809
Fun little gun, do it. As for side rail for price I don't know. Don't see why you couldn't, but not saying yes or no because I am not certain.

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>>34518809
I love my pap. You could install a side rail. But you. You personally would fuck that up so dont

>>34520628
AK74 has two solid roll pins because the pressure held inside the muzzle brake will try and rip the FSB off. An AKM only has one solid crosspin that holds it on the barrel. Because it's not under any forces other than potential impacts.

>>34520721
>solid roll pins
>An AKM only has one
Holy fuck kys you no guns underage faggot

>>34520731
I meant two solid cross pins. Simple mistake.

As for an AKM only having one cross pin, I'm correct.

>>34520721
You sound retarded.

>>34520739
Wtf is a cross pin ?

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>>34520739
>As for an AKM only having one cross pin
Hmm?

>>34520740
Ok

>>34520747
The directions of the pin and the barrel are perpendicular. I don't know if there's a more appropriate term. I call them cross pins because the pins rest across the barrel.

>>34520760
Only one of the pins actually goes across the barrel. The other simply keeps the detent from coming out.

Can anyone here reccomend some after market iron sights? I was gonna paint over my front sight post with some glowin the dark nail polish but I think I'll just go ahead and replace it with something entirely

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Only one of the pins actually intercepts the barrel.

AK74 and krink front sight bases require two pins because they're under much more force thanks to the muzzle device being attached directly to the FSB. I have heard of people actually launching FSBs like they're rifle grenades when test firing their AK74 build before pinning the FSB.

The gas block needs two solid pins because equal and opposite reactions. It's getting pushed forward as hard as the bolt carrier is getting pushed backwards which is pretty fucking hard.

>>34520774
>The other simply keeps the detent from coming out.
No?

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>>34520890
Yeah no they both contact the barrel.

>>34520975
>>34520959
Only on Chinese guns and some others. Probably had to do with some of them being spikers so they needed the extra support.

>>34519375
Not to my knowledge.

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>>34520996
The front contacts as well, just not as much as the rear.

>>34520996
Its a yugo barrel ....

>>34521029
This.

>>34520852
XS makes some, and I "think" trijicon and meprolight make some too. Never tried any of those though, do your research before you buy of course.

>>34520338
What pistol is that? Not the AK I mean.

>>34521140
Looks like a Beretta 92 series. Can't tell what exact model, most likely 92F or 92FS.

>>34518417
Similar to the one in the OP, a buddy of mine showed me his and I've been looking for one since

>>34521330
Pretty sure thats a romanian bayonet.

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>>34521535
Is this you chimps.?

>>34521574
When did Squid move to The Ukraine?

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>>34521585
I thought the same thing lol

>>34519044
I use the same style setup on my vepr, use blue or purple loctite between the adapter and the brake making sure the detents are lined up. After it cures install as normal.

Are vanilla AK sights hard to shoot with or do just really suck at shooting? I was told at 25 yards I should be putting holes through holes, but Im getting groupings 6 inches wide, at rest. Is there a chance my rifle is just broken?

>>34521785
Nah you suck . What rifle ?

>>34521835
WASR-10

>>34521785
If I can hit my 13in targets at 400 yards with them pretty reliably, you just need to git gud.
Also, ammo selection, especially in 762x39, can make a pretty big impact on accuracy. I'll only touch golden tiger personally.

>>34521785
Normally I would just say practice more but a 6 inch wide group at 25 yards is pretty damn bad. I'd say 90% of the time cases like these are caused by jerking the trigger. If you know what your sight alignment is supposed to look like then there shouldn't be much of a technique issue there. Just remember that for the most precision you should be focusing your eyeball on the front sight post. The rest is just alignment.

But it doesn't matter how long you spend aligning your sights if you fuck it all up by yanking the trigger. You have to make sure the sights stay aligned until the hammer has fallen. Otherwise you're just wasting your efforts.

Only other likely possibility I see is that there is something wrong with your gun, but for something to be that bad wrong, I'd imagine you'd be getting keyholes on your targets.

>>34521848
This was the last of my ammo, a mix of golden tiger and red army standard.

>>34521849
Sounds like it's just my aim. i've taken the rifle apart enough times to feel like I'd know if something were that wrong

>>34521871
I shouldmention that I was shooting at a small black dot I drew on the underside of a pizza box. Dot was pretty hard to see; still though that's aterrible grouping

>>34521871
Ammo will not affect accuracy by any significant amount at 25 yards. If you've played call of duty at any point in your life for more than 15 minutes you should know what your sights are supposed to look like. The rest is just technique.

>>34521871
Are you using a slant brake?
IDK how it relates to aks, but if totally fucked with accuracy on a vz2008 I used. Unbelievably different after being removed.
Trash that thing and try it again.

>>34521785
>25 yards I should be putting holes through holes, but Im getting groupings 6 inches wide, at rest

Do you have a sled or something?

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>>34521897
My guess is jerking the trigger.

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Acceptable group at 25yards.

>>34521901
I am, brake that came with the AK. Neverthought to take it off, I'll try that tho

>>34521916
no?

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>tfw contemplating selling my SGL to fund another rifle
I can't do it

>>34521937
Are you trying to shoot groups standing?

>>34521945
What rifle ??

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>>34521946
nah

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>>34521966
>using rocks as a backstop
Smart thinking anon.

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>>34521955
>lifted shifted higher than the ceiling
Actually already bought it just trying to consolidate my collection. One really can't just own own or 2 AKs it seems

>>34521966
Clear your rifle, get into position to shoot and dry fire a few times paying attention to your sights. They shouldn't move at all. Repeat this with a live round. Squeeze, don't pull the trigger. The shot should surprise you, so don't manhandle the rifle. It's not going anywhere.

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>>34521989
hey don't I know it. Corrected image

>>34522003
I'll give that a shot next time, thanks man

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>>34521966
Nice wood

AK triggers are generally pretty bad and take some discipline to use, try to work on some dry fire while focusing on keeping the sights aligned throughout the entire trigger pull, mix that with live fire. Also if you can't see the dot you drew then you're just shooting at nothing. I draw my dots about 1.5" with a sharpie and fill them in nice and dark.

>>34521989
I intentionally shoot rocks all the time

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>>34521966
I'm going to assume your issue is just your point of aim shifting slightly due to recoil. But that is assuming you have a basic understanding of how to pull a trigger and are not just jerking it every shot. Assuming the former, try holding your rifle down harder next time.

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>>34522019
Notice the pours on those rocks though? Asking for ricochet imo.

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>>34522019
Thanks senpai, I try.

I think this one came with a Tapco g2, but I've been planning on getting an AKT evenytually.

Speaking of wood, the problem with putting all that work into nice furniture makes me never want to acually use the rifle, and seriously bums me out when it suffers damage. Not sure how to get over that.

>>34522042
Funny story: in the same area where I was shooting, I got hit in the elbow by ricochet from shooting at an abandoned car wheel.

>>34522042
Probably not a good practice, as long as the shooter knows the risks and isn't putting anybody else in harm's way I don't see it as a big deal

>>34522058
Looks like IWD furniture

I am the same way, I'd recommend some polymer or BFPU wood for actual use

>>34522067
Good eye, that's exactly where it came from

I don't have the dosh to put out for a second set of furniture, I figure if the damage gets too bad I can always remove the shellac, resand the wood and start over

>>34522083
Maybe consider wrapping the wood with some of that cheap camo wrap they sell at sporting goods stores. It should only adhere to itself, iirc, so you can wrap the gun for fun, then pull it back off when you're done.

>>34521348
thanks famalam, I'll get looking

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>>34522145
that's a pretty good idea, that will stop most of it. Only problem is some of the damage is on the fore end of the lower hand guard, the shellac bubbles a little bit ;_;

also mfw I get weird looks at the gas station when I stop by for a drink and when I get back into my car I realize my earmuffs were still on my head

>>34521933
Not even close. They should be right on top of each other that close

>>34522264
Post your group?

>>34522321
I'm at work and don't have shot groups on phone. I can go in my car and shove a pen through a target a couple times.... next time I go with a kommando I'll send proofs

>>34521785
Picture of rifling please

>>34518843

Plum furniture is a marketing gimmick and placebo. The real Plum furniture that you always heard about was in fact black furniture that under certain lighting conditions appeared to be Plum in color. It is no longer made and is why you encounter some furniture called "true black."

>>34520545
I really want to modify one but would need a lathe for what'd want.

>>34522615
Nah dog. Plum furniture is actually plum colored. It's not black.

>>34522473
can't really get a good picture on my phone, sorry

>>34522694
You seem to be struggling here, let's just put this to rest and call it user error

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Sup /akg/

Just picked this up today. What are good places to buy ammo online?

>LGS has 20 rounds at $21
>inner jew won't let me fire muh new gun before work

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I forgot to mention to the guy I wanted the most khaki sling he had. I hope I don't get a really olive one

>>34522956
SGammo
Ammoseek

>>34522956
ammoseek
gunbot
wikiarms

SGammo

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Ah shit, finally bought my SLR 104fr from a dude I thought flaked on me.
Pic related

>>34522962
>>34522965
Cool, thanks.

And yeah I could've googled it but operative word was 'good', wanted to know what places you guys valued and all.

>>34522972
Golden Tiger
Silver Bear
Brown Bear
Wolf
Tula
Anything Slavic in origin basically

>>34522971
Gibs me the eotech pls

>>34522972
golden tiger

accept no substitutes

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>>34522962

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>>34522999
toplel

>>34522985
Doesn't come with an eotech. Just came witht the rifle, the mount, and I think a magazine. If it doesn't then this $28 plum magazine I bought back in 2015 will finally come into play.

Anyone have suggestions on how to keep a center support from rusting? I saw some reddish residue on mine that I don't think is rust since the gun is a brand-new build, but if there's something that people know works to prevent it from happening I'm all ears.

>>34523164
Coat that bitch with grease.

>>34523164
>center support
never even heard of that, what part is that/

>>34523398
The center rivet right behind the magazine, bridging the two sides of the receiver.

I just asked my builder what he thought; he said to just keep it coated in CLP or preservative oils, which is exactly what I had just finished doing when he messaged me back. Hopefully, that's all there is to it.

>>34523668
CLP is pretty magical shit desu

>>34523668
I use ballistol on my AKs and the oil creeps into the rivet holes. I haven't applied any for a pretty long time and it still creeps out to the receiver, mineral oil is pretty stable

>Found Blucarpet's YouTube channel
>More videos with Chimps in them
My folder of "The Faces of Chimps" will now grow even more.

>>34524126
Do you have an Arsenal? I'm trying to decide what CLP to use on my AKs that won't ruin my Russian finish when I go to clean it. I've got Break-Free, Ballistol, and M-Pro 7. M-Pro is my go-to lube oil, but I've had better luck actually *cleaning* things with Ballistol than with the others.

>>34524183
you keep me humble anon

>>34524196
I use Ballistol.

>>34524183
I'll sell you Chimps' leg hair for $200 and I'll include a written note for only $50 more

Your collection of Chimps' faces will never satisfy you unless you have some physical part of him too

>>34524427
I'll give you $1000 if you clone him for me so I can have a Chimps bf!

>>34524529
>tfw no kalashtism gf(male)

>>34524183
How many youtube channels do we have in /akg/?

>>34524529
No, in saving it in case Chimps does and his body is completely obliterated so I can have him cloned and then I'll have him read every single Chimps post in the archives so he will have the real Chimps' personality and then I'll have him returned home so I'll be the hero of his family for bringing him back

>>34524578
Only ones I know of with a worthwhile number of videos are Flandre, Zasta, and Chimps

>>34524725
Stupid phone auto correct
>I'm*
>dies*

>>34524725
This reminds me of a black mirror episode. My online footprint is pretty big. I wonder if a clone matched to my online behavior would be a better or worse person than me irl.

>>34524750
>I wonder if a clone matched to my online behavior would be a better or worse person than me irl.
Makes me sad wondering that for myself 2bh, online is more fun and has less worries than irl so my online self might actually be happier

>>34524725
What about your channel?

You guys are fucking weird, holy shit.

>>34524810
I hope you don't mean compared to /arg/ bruh.

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>>34524810
>

>>34524794
I only made my channel in the first place years ago to comment on stuff, the one video I made was only because I thought it'd be fun to do and frankly because I was just really excited to have taken the dive into the kit

>>34524750
Thanks, now I'm thinking about Hayley Atwell's tits again.

>>34524810
/akg/ is a cult, /arg/ is a daycare

Bout to buy 40 yugo war mags for 200$, wish me luck.

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>>34519729
muh PREBAN

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That's it, I'm fully switching to AK's. First AR I buy from someone instead of assembling my own and this shit happens.

I decided to quit on building my 74 because i'm lazy and just want to buy a factory one. Problem is i've already finished the receiver, easiest way to cut this bitch up so I can sell it as a parts kit?

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Sanitized Russian plum mag

Sanded through to see what I'm working with. Black paint over orange primer

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>>34526684
Soaked it in mineral spirits for hours and it didn't do shit

Broke out the agent orange

>>34526684
Yep, you can use citrus based stripper to get the paint off and get to the plum underneath but it's really dull and heavily sanded

>>34526709
Wew you posted before I could submit

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>>34526709
Agent orange puttin in werk

>>34526727
;)

>>34526775
Yeah that sucked, I had to use a plastic scraper to get it all off. I only ended up stripping two of mine because it was a PITA

You buy these for MSW? How much did you pay for them? I just sold a half dozen of them like two months ago, had I known you wanted some as beater mags I would have cut you a deal m8

>>34522956
Holy shit balls that's not 7.62x51 right?

So, I've googled and seen many various ways to clean the cosmoline and shavings out of my new WASR. What do you recommend /akg/? Also sidenote, does anyone else think that the sling that comes with the rifle is sized for a small African child?

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>>34526438
keymod strikes again

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>>34526832
Man I hate keymod so much. I only have the keymod because I got the AR pistol in a straight trade for a pretty well used Glock 30sf gen 3. Hated the Glock, will never buy one again.

Was planning on getting rid of the shitty 7.5" upper for a 10.5" anyway. So I'm gonna throw a cheap ass gas block on, sell it, and build a 10.5".

>>34526810
>Get a hose
>spray receiver clean
>dry
>???
>profit

>>34526832
i dont get it whats happening here other than empty rail space and flinching

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>>34526804
Yep, got these for MSW. Needed some mags I don't care about using. Paid $21.50/ea for 7 of them, including shipping. How much did you sell yours for?

I'm using a pot scraper with good success, I think I'll use a wire brush for the ribs on the front though.

FFL asked me what my occupation was seemingly as part of the transfer, weird. Have any WA anons done a transfer lately?

>>34526929
I sold 6 for $120 shipped so around the same you bought yours for. Had I sold them later or you been wanting some earlier I would have let you have them for $100 even

The plum is kinda ugly but they're still Russian great mags, they were my dedicated use and abuse mags for a couple of years. I only decided to get rid of them because I have tons of beater quality true blacks that I use instead because of my particular case of autism

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>>34526929
>tfw spent mag money on FAL receiver

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>>34526985
That makes me feel a lot better. I was imagining you telling me that you sold them for like $12/ea and that I got raped. Now I know somebody is probably itching to tell me that I'm just a chump for not finding ribbed plum 45 rounders for $6 each. But these were already in the country and available for a fair price.

I have a few unsanitary Russian plums I'll take, and I want to pic up a ribbed plum 45 rounder because I see those inserted in rifles in the pics from Ukraine all the time. AKS-74 with a plum 45 rounder is primo Ukraine aesthetic. Just gotta find a good deal on a beat up 45 rounder.

Some of them have these interesting silver ink stamps

>>34527003
If only it took G3 mags like your PTR you could buy dozens of them for $2 each. I have no idea how expensive FAL mags are. Probably not that bad..?

How much am I looking at paying for a SAM7SF?

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>>34527045
You can find them for about $25-30 depending on the condition/origin.

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Okay /akg/, spoonfeed me your top five magazines.

>>34527032
You're taking a 5.45 gun?

>>34527088
Well that's gonna suck but you'll make it back up on the blanks

>>34527123
I'm hoping my yokel will finish my 1987 AKS-74 kit in time for MSW, if not I'm planning on taking my SGL-31. If I absolutely can't find 5.45 blanks I'll take my SGL-21 but I really don't wanna do that

>>34527088
>tfw bought 4 for 35 a few months ago
Get some paratrooper ones, they're so fucking light it's insane

>>34527116
Shiny plum
103 ribbed
Izzy steel
RPK ribs
Glass filled bakes

>>34527003
You made the right choice

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>>34527032
I really want a plum 45 round mag but I want a super plum one like Daewoo's. The ones that are just kinda plum don't really interest me because they look close enough to black and I've already got some black ones

None of my sanitized mags had ink stamps that were legible like yours are, they were all smudgy and melty looking like they had been touched with paint thinner or something

Do you know the specific story behind these? Were they sanitized and then used in Bulgarian service or was it just to get them into the US or what? Seems like a lot of work to sand and paint mags when they've already got their own domestically made mags and could just use them as is without sanitizing them

>>34527116
1) True black
2) True black
3) True black
4) True black
5) True black

>>34527159
You have any trench art true blacks ?

>>34527159
>>34527159
>>34527159
>>34527159
>>34527159
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=416954

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>>34527116
Bakes
Bulgy Waffles
Magpul G3
Drums
Whatever the fuck these slab side 7.62 mags are

>>34527137
Good luck. The only place that makes blanks for 5.45 cost about a dollar a round. They make them for Hollywood movies.

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>>34527229
Saiga mag

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>>34527194
Only this one, I've got one other one with some very very light scratching of a single word like 3/4 of an inch long but it's so light that I've never been able to get it in a pic clear enough to even see it

>>34527199
WHY DO YOU HAVE TO SHOW ME THIS RIGHT NOW I NEED TO SAVE FOR AN AUG NOT AN R1 RIGHT NOW I DON'T NEED THIS DILEMMA IN MY LIFE RIGHT NOW

That's a really fantastic Rhodie rifle, but tb100%qh I'd prefer a proper South African R1 as original as I can get without any Rhodie stuff because I'm more interested in South African military stuff than Rhodesian stuff. Both are really cool but at heart I'm a Boerboo and Afrikanerboo

>>34527262
He can always just yell bang

>>34527137
http://www.selwayarmory.com/brown-bear-5-45x39-blank-polymer-coated-box-of-30.html

>>34527116
Aluminum waffles, plums

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>>34527282
>I NEED TO SAVE FOR AN AUG

I'm helping.

>>34527116
Shiny plum
Ribbed plum
5.45 bakelite
Aluminum waffle
Izzy steel

>>34527282
:^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I don't think there's many R1 kits out there that didn't hit Rhodesia with the way things went down, every R1 kit I've seen at least had some amount of Rhodie paint or mystery parts scattered within it

>>34527116
Aliminum waffles, 103s of either variety, Finnish waffles, ((10))s, and bakelites

>>34527159
I dunno if they were sanitized by Russia to disguise their origin or if they were sanitized by Bulgaria for the express purpose of importation into the US. The "made in Bulgaria" stickers (English alphabet) make me tend toward the latter. But that makes me wonder why they would even bother spraying these with primer before painting them.

>>34527295
yep, I was thinking about clearing them out but money is tight. I'm about to PayPal some guy $20 just to tell me what unit my M45 was issued to, if any. Hopefully I get something good that will increase its desirability.

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>>34527350
o fugg dat wasn't supposed to be there

I need my 17.2 so badly though so I can move on to 100 series AKs. A 105 with Zenit and a T1 sounds sex right now

New thread

>>34527364

>>34527364

>>34527364

wow ak files is cucked

>muh russia

>sanctions are good

>merican rifles are not exploding shit builds

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=312026&page=2