AR Thread - /arg/ - AR General

>tfw Colorado people are terrorists and don't deserve guns

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>>34426606
In

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100% clone correct

>be Burt
>fuck up constantly

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>>34426606
Nice save Burto

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>Be Burt
>be pretty great guy

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UBR Gen2. Still need to put the MK14 on.

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>>34426606
Burt stop fucking up, goddamn.

>>34426632
Whats the AFG on the top gun?

>>34426669

>some random summer trip asking stupid questions.

I can't wait for summer to end.

>>34426645
Take your shit outside and redo the picture.

>>34426685
It never ends

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>>34426629
>>34426655
I broke a second tine and again have to wait for glue before painting.

It never fucking ends.

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Just got back from the range and on the last mag the disconnector stopped letting go of the hammer. Couldnt figure out what was wrong so I took out the FCG and a fucking primer fell out, anyone else have this happen? gun works fine now

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>>34426669
(((Fab Defense))) PTK VTS combo with paracord wrapped around it. It was pretty comfortable, but I like stubby VFGs now.

>>34426700
At least you didn't cry at the range when I called your trigger shit. Fucking Laruefags.

>>34426742
G triggers and LaRue triggers are about the same. I got both, G breaks a touch cleaner, dillo dust trigger has a comfy as fuck shoe

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>>34426742
I'm secure in my knowledge of the product enough to know that something is/was wrong with yours. I hope Larue will take care of the issue for you, but their return window is very short. I think it's 12 days.

>>34426606
anybody have experience with tombstone tactical? They have Ruger AR's for 485. I've only ordered through buds or classic.

>>34426787
Use grabagun
http://grabagun.com/search/?q=ruger%20ar%20556

Can I build a sub moa AR-10?

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Mein raifu's first taste of innawoods.

>>34426838
Yes.

>>34426685
Okay summer anon.

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I think you gentlemen are fully aware of what time it is.

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>>34426627
I want to make this.
Is the difference between 10.5" or a 11.5" barrel that noticeable ?

>>34426903
Its 17:44

>>34426606
Burt>>34426783

>>34426759
>>34426784
No the fag told me it's "the best precision trigger in the world."

Yea it's ok for 100 bucks and better than milspec, but far from the best. There are better triggers out there that come without the pretentiousness and the faggot fanboys.

He mumbled something and waddled away. I'm glad I bought it so I could have an informed opinion, but I'll offload it as soon as I can.

>>34426925
Ar Gold>GNM>Wilson

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>>34426903
Happy 4th weekend Cordan.

>>34426918
The main thing is that M193 will frag out to maybe 50-75 yards out of an 11.5" but won't frag point blank out of a 10.3"

>>34426925
Once you get into nice triggers it's all fanboism and pretensions though. I've got four pretty sweet aftermarket triggers. The dillo dust one is the least nice on the break, but that shoe....

If fanboyism is something you hate, your going to encounter it with essentially everything you purchase that others can see for the rest of your life

>>34426925

>but I'll offload it as soon as I can.

Want to trade for some MBUS pro buis?

>>34426606
Has /arg/ got anything during the various 4th of July sales? I picked up a 13" Mk 8 handguard for $220 the day the sale started and some g10 grips for muh Hi-Power.

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>>34426814
was gonna order through them or tombstone so thanks for the superior option anon.

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I'm so shit at remembering to take pics

2gun was good af

>>34426606
What barrel

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>>34426923

Also yes.

>>34426966

And you as well my dude.

>>34426999
Grabagun generally has the lowest, or close to the lowest prices. They are also great to deal with.

>>34426700
Don't use pine, retard.

>>34426950
Yup

>>34426966
Does it really matter? Use mk262
>implying you'll be shooting anyone anyways

>>34426784
Where to get a mckay lower like that?
I like how smooth-sided it looks, but I can't find them for sale/in stock anywhere

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>>34426925
Agree to disagree.

Without hyperbole or loyalty, I'd take a $99 MBT over a $300 Geissele.

And did in fact. Twice.

I hate Larue mounts, Larue prices and I hate Mark Larue as a person, but the trigger is truly excellent. That it costs less than Geissele's cheapest offering, and less even than a Ruger trigger, is astounding.

The staging wall is better on an MBT than anything else.
The break is better on an MBT than anything else.
The bet pull weight, pretravel and overtravel are debatable for different shooting applications, but I rank those features lower than the break and the wall. For an everyday rifle, nothing beats the MBT*.

Plus only Larue blanchard grinds their triggers and actually machines every single surface out of a block of tool steel, rather than merely casting a lump of pig iron and machining ONLY the sear surface then having the balls to charge $300 for 1/100th the work done.

*imo gfy smd

>>34426976
This is true most of the time on forums because people think $200+ is a lot to spend on a trigger, but I'm being serious in my opinion and recommendation.

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>>34427022
It's not pine, it's probably beech or birch.

>>34427060
From McKay. They do batches, call and ask when the next one is due. Protip tho: they are A2 lowers with metal machined off into A1 profile, but they cost nearly as much as Nodaks which are actually FORGED as A1 lowers from the start (pic related). tl;dr Nodak > McKay

>>34427085
Your rifles, by and large, ride to the higher end of someone looking at a price: performance value. The MBT is a natural choice for someone like yourself.

There are better triggers, but only minute improvements for the extra cost. The materials and manufacturing in the MBT are really nice.

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>>34427085

As a whore who likes single stage triggers a lot.

How am I going to like a MBT or a SSA?

Assuming I don't just pay for the GuysnamedLee single stage.

>>34427149
Depends on how much you don't like them. I have single and double stage. For me, a good trigger is a good trigger. But thats me.

>>34427050
>Does it really matter?
I don't know, does it?

>“The world's stable now. People are happy; they get what they want, and they never want what they can't get. They're well off; they're safe; they're never ill; they're not afraid of death; they're blissfully ignorant of passion and old age; they're plagued with no mothers or fathers; they've got no wives, or children, or lovers to feel strongly about; they're so conditioned that they practically can't help behaving as they ought to behave. And if anything should go wrong, there's soma.”

Fucker getting pretty heavy handed towards the end.

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>>34427143
Yes, I value good value, but when it comes to triggers money is no object. We're just having difficulty with definition of "best" I think.

To me, the "best" is a solid staging wall and an absolutely crisp break. The MBT has that, Geisseles do not. Geissele staging walls feel mushy to me, and the break is softer, not as hard and instant as an MBT. I don't care about overtravel at all, I don't care about pretravel because that's just a safety feature, and ideal pull weight for me is 4 pounds on a """"""""""""combat"""""""""""" rifle, which the MBT nails to the ounce. If I were shooting precision, I'd want the same features but with a lower trigger weight so that's why I tried a $350 G Hi Speed. I am disappointed in it. It's deffo nice, and the break is crisp, but not as crisp as a $99 MBT and the Hi Speed's staging wall is barely there. I feel endangered with my finger on the trigger.

So I would say that there aren't any triggers "better" than the MBT at any cost. But if you value features that I don't value, then there would certainly be "better" triggers for you.

I've tried Larue MBT, Geissele SSA, Geissele SSA-E, Geissele G2S, Geissele Hi Speed, ALG ACT, ALG QMS, Rock River National Match 2 Stage tuned by White Oak, Ruger Elite and lots of GI.

I haven't tried AR Gold, Jard, Jewell, CMC, TriggerTech or anything else not listed, so there may well be some competition in the pack but because I don't have personal experience with them I won't condemn them. I have very high expectation of TriggerTech based on my Remington 700 triggers though, those are so excellent that they might be called "perfect."

>>34427149
I can't say, I don't like single stage so the only AR single stages I've used are GI-type. I think in the case of a single stage trigger, Geissele would probably be an excellent bet, or maybe one of the drop-ins I mentioned above like AR Gold, CMC or Jewell.

PLEASE LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE IF YOU LIKE MY NOVELS

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>>34426606
Niggers

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>>34427257
Did you hit your head again

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btw Armory Racks has free shipping this weekend with code USA-FREE-SHIP-FORUM

They are a super excellent way to efficiently organize pistols on a shelf.

>>34427326
Ah yes, for my 100000 pistols

>>34426701
Pretty common from my understanding

>>34427356
>not having 1000+ pistols

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>>34426966
So is this fragmentation caused by the round impacting the target to causing it to un-form? Or is it more relevant to velocity of the round from a shorter barrel?

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>>34427356
Nigga even if you got like 5 these things are great. Shipping is usually almost as much as one rack would cost but not this weekend! yw

If you have a small safe and are struggling trying to get a bunch of pistols on one rack, Armory Racks could be the solvo.

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>>34427391
>>34427379
I only have 1

>>34427421
What is it?

>>34427431
guess

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>>34427421
Gib him the best home he can has

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>>34427439
Are they paying you in baconators?

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>>34426606
So has everyone went out and bought their very own thermal drift optics now that Greeneye Tactical btfo Aimpoint and Trijicon?

>>34427421
Im only 19 and I have 5 pistols. You must be a poor fag

>>34427439
lol

>>34427447
Yes

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>>34427456
EXPS3-2?

>>34427436
Glock 40 problem solver

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>>34427450
And?

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>>34427445

>>34427450
If you don't own a home and a car you're poor

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>>34427450
Post you're guns

>>34427477
Ok let me dig everything out of the safe give me 15-20 minutes.

>>34427491
Hell yeah let's see your collection
Got any cool stuff?

>>34427495
I got grandpas collection of civil war guns. I dont have much tacticool shit.

>>34426606
>mismatching wood
does this trigger anyone else?

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How's everyone's sunday

>>34427534
Not great, I'm remembering why I stopped visiting my family and im regretting seeing them for the first time in 10 years.

>>34427544
You got an AR right?

>>34427544
That sucks f a m

>>34426918

What's under the cord? just the gas tube and barrel?

>>34427534
Pretty good bought some parts for my first AR build. Now I just need a BCG, charging handle, and front sight.

>>34427475
What if I don't own the home because I'm hundreds of thousands in debt bc of the home I'm living in?

>>34427534
Trying to decide what I want to buy next. I fucking worry myself to death over this shit.

>inb4 lasers

>>34427588
>hundreds of thousands in debt
Are you Giddy from the future?

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>>34427386
Tendency for the round to fragment or yaw inside of the target depends on the construction of the bullet itself and the velocity with which it impacts.

Typical M193 doesn't "reliably" (ambiguous statistical term) fragment below about 2700 impact fps, and a 10.3" doesn't produce M193 muzzle velocities in excess of this 2700 fps mark.

>>34427445
Mein Seids

>>34427450
>I'm only x ages and have y. You must be a z
Spoken like a true x year old.

>>34427477
What is on top?
What optic is that?
Acog so far back on AUG is aesthetic.

>>34427495
So friendly. So fresh.

>>34427509
BTFO

>>34427534
Literary.

>>34427553
Yes

>>34427566
Yeah it is. I'm the only kid out of 7 to not end up on drugs / welfare and my mother is certifiably mentally ill and my dad doesn't stand up for himself

>>34427597
No, because my debt is at like 4% as opposed to 34%. Plus I could still go thousands more into debt if I wanted bc my credit score isn't hovering around the 400 mark

>>34427450
>he only had 5 pistols when he was 19
Slither away poorfag

>>34427572
What do you have so far?

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>>34427598
Top is a PTR with a PA 1-6x, that was my first rifle. And I know about the AUG/Acog I think it looks awesome.

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>spend 600+ dollars on an optic
>can't use it when theres a lightsource behind you

Thanks aimpoint

>>34427637
hey
put your face up to it

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>>34427629
How do you like ptr?
I'd like to pick one up.

>>34427646
I think it's rad, I've had mine since before it became a meme, very satisfying rifle to shoot.

>>34427626
Upper, rail, lower without a grip and stock.

>>34427660
I mean what specifically do you have. Is it poorfag or Gucci?

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>>34427637
B T F O

>>34427261
If you hate your NM, ditch it for an AR Gold. I thought NM could be adjusted from every aspect, pretravel, break, over travel etc.?

>>34427688
So how do you like the Eotech?

>>34427681
Its mid range priced stuff. Only poor fag thing is the anderson lower since I am only 20 and had to buy it from a private seller.

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>>34427646
F
A
L

>>34427637
Seriously? The PA micro is perfectly operational like that.

>>34427705
The upper and rail is aero, lpk is anderson, trigger is alg.

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>>34427637
Lol wut?

I don't have those problems with mine.

Sig 550 master race. The only other rifle that competes with it is the kalashnikov. Go kill yourselves you burger loving armalite fags.

>>34427747
Let's see your sig

>>34427386
Where did you get this info from and is there more of it?

>>34427752
You realize this is bait, right?

>>34427744
You managed to make an ugliest Block even uglier.

>>34427744
What stock?

>>34427762
Nothing is bait though

>>34427762
FA always takes the bait

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>>34427692
I LOVE my NM, but it has no adjustment at all.

Great break on it.

>>34427569
idk probably a circular hand guard. It is an image board I posted an image in a reply to the one I want to build

>>34427785
There's a non zero chance he's swiss or some bullshit

>>34427772
Vltor emod

>>34427744
Nice rifle. Push the PRO back in the mount a hair.

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>tfw you can't be gucci anymore because Surefire stopped making their weaponlights in tan

>>34426918
A cute, A CUTE!

>>34427821
Cerakote that shit

>>34427796

Get an A1 upper and pistol grip and usgi mags and you're 200% gucci

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>>34427598
>Tendency for the round to fragment or yaw inside of the target depends...
So it doesnt really matter if i have no intentions to reach round yaw limits, an the usage of fragmentation is over used for the round just
deforming then.
>>34427755
there is probably more, i dont remember where i found it.

>>34427791
You said you were disappointed if I read correctly.

>Geissele Automatics currently offers three large pin Hi-Speed trigger products. These adjustable triggers are specially designed for competition, hunting, tactical, and military use, where both accuracy and robustness are critical. As an adjustable trigger, the first and second stage weight distribution, as well as, total pull weight, over-travel, and sear engagement are all to be tuned to the shooters preference.
Did you get the wrong version? Or the older ones weren't adjustable?

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>>34427835

Gotta have those logos dude

Granted my rifle is all black save for the Geissele rail which is DDC. Might look good with the black light.

>>34427842
Unless you plan on stacking bodies all day it's literally a non-issue and he's been sperging about it for weeks

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>>34427765
I've a special eye for things like that.

Should I mount my T1 closer or further from my eye?

https://www.rainierarms.com/cmt-tact-uhpr-mod-2-handguard/
Is this a mistake?

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>>34427646
Go for it. They're a lot of fun.

>>34427907
All the way at the end of the rail

>>34427935
What if I have a monolithic top rail?

>>34427921
Not for $188 just get a guyslee

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>>34427933
Stop being a bad influence

>>34427940
Barrel clamp rail right behind muzzle, mount T1 to that

>>34426918
Yes, and it sucks

>>34426966
Anything besides mk262 in a sbr is practice use only

>>34427637
>Spend 400 on Trijicon reflex
>Can't use it shooting from shade into light
Thanks Trijicon

>>34427842
>an the usage of fragmentation is over used for >the round just
>deforming then.
Seriously what did you mean by this?

>>34427866
I bring it up when people explicitly ask about the differences between a 10.3" and an 11.5"
There really aren't that many differences other than the M193 frag velocity threshold difference.
Interesting definition of sperging you've got there friendo.

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So I got this for $50. Gonna try and make something in the style of the xm177e2.

Yes, I know it won't be an exact clone, don't really care.

Can anyone tell me where I can find a grey charging handle, a milspec A2 sight assembly, and a CAR stock assembly?

>>34427945
It said $0...

>>34427983

And a grey stripped lower to match the upper I guess

>>34427907
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-CVj3Ku2XwY
Over dust cover like Larry Snickers said.

>>34427986
When you add it to cart it is 188

>>34427986
Read the page dummy

Anyone here use the sightmark wolverine

>>34427907
As far forward as you can go but staying on the upper receiver

>>34428038
No, no one here uses sightmark and nether should you

>>34428039
>dogma
So if i have a monolithic upper, just fucking shove my red dot right by the muzzle? Where does the madness end?

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>>34428057
But then how would I get a cool tape-switch light/laser combo like this?

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what do you guys think about 22 conversion kits? cmmg specifically.
do they work?
part of me wants it the other half says just buy a model 60 but i already have a model 60.

>>34428096
Fuck that. Just buy a dedicated .22 upper and put it on.

>>34428057
Why? It has good reviews

>>34428104
thats not going to happen.
anybody with actual experience with conversions?

>>34428070
No, get a gooseneck rail that extends past your muzzle and put it on that.

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first time AR guy here

I just got a stag arms model 3, never been fired in a trade with a guy

it feels like the handguard should be longer for my arms to have a comfortable grip, but I have no idea what handguard to get or how to put it on

>>34428057
Mine gun came with a sightmark ultra something another, it's not THAT bad

>>34428070

Go no further than the bolt head in the closed position.

>>34428153
Would you buy it though?

>>34428178
ehh for the price it wouldn't be a bad option if I was on a budget, i mean 3 different sights, brightnesses, "nightvision", laser on the side. Not bad for $150

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>>34427947
sent them vids I keep watching my rifle reload on the last stage because I like it so much. Now I need to work on malfunction clearing and being aware of the state my pistol is in

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>>34428235
>>34428235
>I keep watching my rifle reload on the last stage because I like it so much
sounds like things went well

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>>34428254
Yea really satisfied with my pistol progress but there are always areas to improve. Helps that everyone is pretty normal

>>34427839
probably gona be an A2 or chopped down carry handle.
>>34427866
cool thanks
>>34427978
what did he mean by this?
That the round will deform upon impact. I understand fragmentation causes the round to disintegrate more than a pistol round or soft slug mushrooming.
>>34427954
ok
>>34427823
Would you like a carrot?

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>>34428267
Nice choice of weapon platform

>>34427954
Why mk262 and not m855a1?

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>>34428296

We M&P whores now?

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>>34428411
Nah son

>>34428378
>why not 5.5moa rounds?
Gee

>>34428426
What is that ugly trash, looks ancient. Get with the times, needs a light and laser

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>>34428075
Get a PEQ15 and a TAPS dual pressure switch

>>34428447
Picatinny adapter on order.

>>34428254
It was great, other than a rifle fumble here and there. I fucked the entire first stage just to get a sight in too

Pistols were like 10x better other than one hilarious incident with the other anon, prolly the best part

>>34428235
Nice, I'll send /akg/ anon his and make my webms tomorrow. I just wanna lay down and mobileshitpost t b h

When does that thing end so you can fuck around on the gallery?

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>>34428411
Can I play?

>>34428106
So does Barska. Those are normie reviewers. Not operator reviewers. You gotta be ready to go fight the Taliban with your gear or you are a poorfag who needs to khs

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>>34428440
I-its n-not that bad

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>>34427534
Good. Finally ordered a real scope so I am pretty excite.

>>34428469

Double stack or go home.

>>34428378
mk262 has acceptable terminal ballistics from short barrels, many other rounds do not

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>>34428493
;_;

>>34428502
And its not 5.5moa

>>34428426
neat
>>34428411
after macs test and failures to feed and slide not locking back consistently, i dont have any confidence in my m&p9

>>34428426
>smoking

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>>34428531
Of course

>>34428526
Have you ever had those problems with your gun?

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>>34428526

The test is designed to destroy handguns. Just like the InRange mud test.

Turns out that almost all firearms break when you fill them with gritty shit.

If you want something that will never let you down, get a nice sword.

>>34428546
nice cancer sticks

>>34428519
Also that

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i didn't go to the range

>>34428569
The Andalusian bulls are overrated.
The diggers though.....

>>34428467
I will be doing it all summer. Might be able to when classes start back up but it depends on how long the drive is to Gainesville from the match. By the time I get done I can usually barely keep my eyes open on the road back.

>>34426960
That's really interesting about the PPX, it sounds exactly like the HK LEM trigger which I love on hammer fired guns. How's the reset? Is it made in Ulm?
>I haven't heard of peening on the PPS
There was talk of damage to the breech face on the PPS (may have only been the M2) caused by some part of the trigger assembly. Good to hear yours hasn't given you any issue.

>>34428573
What does moa stand for?

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Dank or nah?

>>34428579
How much spic dick would I have to suck for that acog?

>>34428621
Soon

>>34428621
7/10 would be 10/10 if the rail was black

Eotech 512 for 320 y/n

>>34428621
hate that stock wtf even is that

>>34428638
I'm drunk disregard this post

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>>34428634
Depends on how good you are

>>34428620
Men obturating assholes.

>>34428634
acogs are worth less than your dignity anon

>>34428650
Thats not a stock dumdum

>>34428644
>>34428650
It's a "brace." Not my rifle. Pic stolen from barfcom. But it's a rare ar15 that looks good with that Meprosight that's not IDF kiss or tavor.

>>34428658
But Im a trap

>>34428672
sure you are

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>>34428634
$5 a suck, just take a trip to texas and you'll have the money in no time.

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>>34428607
>~200 miles
That's gonna suck even more than it already does. I think I'm only doing ~90 and I already hate that
>phone won't give me high enough res either to capture my beatiful outfit

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What's the barrel length on these MCX rifles? Thinking about doing this with a 13.7/14.5 AR and a Maxim Defense CQB Stock

>>34428708
Manlet

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>>34428621
Could be improved

M&P 15 or Ruger AR556 for a beginning AR? 4th of July sales are going on so I wanna give ARs a shot. Most gun forums I browse say that they're pretty much the same and I should just get what ever is cheaper, but I wanna hear your guys' opinions too.

>>34428714
Looks like 12.5

>>34428708
Yea what I will need to do is chug a bunch of caffeine and sugar before each drive back.

>>34428727
M&P, ruger a shit

>>34428714
>carrier position on the right guy
Bongstan police confirmed for airsofters

>>34428727
Ruger isnt milspec get m&p

>>34428743
Neither is the M&P Sport

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>>34428736
I would say ask Burt but he already let you down once with Wendy's

>>34428718
Am actually a trap don't tell anyone

>>34428755
Its more milspec than the ruger

>>34428645
EXPS3-0

>>34428777
What exactly about the Ruger makes it less milspec than something without a forward assist?

>>34428788
Sport 2 has a forward assist.

>>34428788
Proprietary barrel nut and fsb

>>34428788
The sport 2 has a FA dumbass

>>34428799
>>34428803
>>34428805
Damn well in that case it actually is.

>>34428739
>>34428743
>>34428755
>>34428777
>>34428799
>>34428803
Ruger has proprietary shit? Well fuck that I'll get the M&P then. Thanks guys.

>>34428795
any light suggestions? I have a tlr1 laying around but I feel like it's not a great rifle light.

I'm going to buy a suppressor. In two years when I'm finally approved by ATF, how do I be not-Giddy and avoid baffle strikes?

>>34428832
It's not that great of a handgun light either

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>>34428727
Neither.
Build.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O16JP0YRKv4

>>34428620
minute of angle

>>34428815
Shit my local police use the M&P 15 sport 2 so if they are good enough cops than its good enough for that anons first AR.

>>34428841
there are tools to check the alignment, and don't remove/reattach at random like he did/does

>>34428846
>advises building
>posts the ugliest ar on the general
Not making a strong case imho

>>34428846
Not everyone is here is 21 and older so we all cant build.

>>34428842
I got it for free, friend of mine works for streamlight.

>>34428869
Lucky fuck how much you want for it?

>>34428858
How am I going to remember this two years from now

>>34428827
If you are 21 just buy a complete upper and lower so you can get what you want.

>>34428846
I'm just looking in to see if I really like ARs. If I do, I'll start dolling it up or making a full build later on. I'm more used to playing with milsurp, but ARs are so cheap right now I see no reason not to buy one.

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>>34428842
>it's not that great of a handgun light


Also how good is Fiocchi 5.56? It's what I used to lay down some groups with the BA barrel today. Seemed to be hangin about 1.5-2MOA but I'm not at all a good group shooter, did get one a pair that were more like 1-1.25 but I'm not sure if that was luck or not. Did 5 groups of 5

>>34428887
Write it down

>>34428881
if I sold it probably like 80 bucks, but I'm probably gonna keep it in my extra parts bin, I'm sure I'll use it at some point. It's not the HL either

>>34428902
Groups is for bench builds and boring old fudds dont worry about it

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>>34428846
PPU confirmed for milspec

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>>34428864
See:
>>34428889

>>34428895
What is your budget? I guarantee you can do a budget build within your budget that will be better than the Ruger or the M&P.
Low end prebuilds are less respectable than even a botched budget build. At least the botched budget build was man enough to try.

>>34428856
Yeah back in my days of poorfaggery the only M&P Sport didn't have an FA or dust cover.

If it does than I'd recommend it

>>34428928
cant buy a lower under 21yo you stupid faggot

>>34428858
>don't remove/reattach at random like he did/does
then what's the point of qd?

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What handguard is this?

>>34428915
Yea I know, but I still like to know what my guns are capable of and would like to get better at it anyways. Probably never will cause my hands shake a bit, prolly some early onset parkinsons from my retardation idk. Did manage a ~2.5 moa 5 shot group out of the FAL with shitty Israeli surplus tho, but it was also the only group I shot

>>34428933
>He can't get around this

Don't you have friends? Family even?

>>34428951
>recommending a straw purchase
Have fun in jail

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>>34428917
>PPU confirmed for flipspec
FTFY

>>34428933
Buy a completed lower then. Plenty of LGS have them with standard M4 stocks for around $150.
Or venerate your father and maybe he can buy a stripped lower for you.

>>34428951
im not that anon hes talking too. just tired of retards giving out false info. pound sand.

>>34428832
For cheap get a protac 2, for best get a surefire m600, for medium get arisaka 600

>>34428928
I guess my budget is around $700ish. I'm over 21 so I guess ordering a lower isn't an issue, I've just never done business ordering over FFL or anything like that.

>>34428965
>Buy a completed lower
you cant do that under 21yo. you need to seriously do a lot more research on literally everything gun related. you are a dumbass.

>>34428969
>m600
m300

>>34428964
You don't have any friends who are into ARs?

>>34428964
>Thinking that what Dan is describing constitutes and legitimate straw purchase.
Legitimate gifts don't constitute straw purchases. So what if you show your gratitude for the gift by grabbing dinner with your buddy or uncle.

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Given your best estimates, including ammo.

How much have you sunk into your AR hobby?

>>34428964
Not a straw purchase if its a gift. Why are you trips so retarded.

>>34426638
Which optic is that? Crossfire II? If it is do you like it? Looking to pick one up.

>>34428997
Or you could gift them the price of the lower

>>34428997
>>34429006
>anon can't buy the lower himself
>"you don't have anyone else who can do it?"
>"HURR THAT'S NOT A STRAW PURCHASE"
Trip and fall down the stairs pls

>>34429003
$1100 myself including 1500 rounds of ammo.

>>34427408
faggot AR is back

>>34429036
YOU RETARDED NIGGER IF ITS A GIFT THEN IT IS NOT A STRAW PURCASE.

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>>34428933
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>>34428984
You seem really fucking hostile dude. This hobby is supposed to be fun. Chill out.

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>>34429041

>he thinks it left

faggot anon is back

>>34429041
But thats not WGWS

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>>34428988
I do but it doesn't matter since I can buy my own lowers

>>34429058
>mr atf it was a gift!
>and i just gifted him the exact cost of the lower back for unrelated reasons!

>>34429059
wgws is a complete idiot. hes dumb and poor too.

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so salty in here

>>34428973
>Budget of $700
>Over 21
Build or slap receivers together:
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-chf-mid-length-rifle-kit.html
Grab a lower locally. Better than either the Ruger or the M&P.

>>34428984
Oh man you're a genius. So glad we have you around anon so all the 18-21 Anons on here without dad's can know that there best option is to buy an M&P or a Ruger 556.

>>34429068
Yeah but maybe give them an extra $20 to be nice

>>34429080
we spicy general

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>>34428945
Samson MRF-C

Its a very good quad, but a bit dated and heavy. Uses a standard barrel nut.

>>34429080
>salt rifle general
>is salty
Checks out

>>34429088
Or just buy one private sale and keep your doggo safe another day

>>34429083
>im so stupid i dont know common knowledge
>im so poor i own hardened arms parts
>im so dumb i give out false info
>im so gay i ask the same questions every day
t. wgws

>>34429083
My dad died when I was younger so I had my mom buy my lower.

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>>34429036
Don't you have some boots to lick?

>>34429023
I don't know man, I'm pretty sure the ATF is going to kill your mom and dog if you do stuff like that.

>>34429069
>How tasty

>>34429120
>>34429109
It was a joke

>>34429068
Well no I mean not every under 21 gets their lower thru a straw purchase. If friends and family know you want one, and gift one to you then there's absolutely no problem.

How do you think I built mine at 19 and have 3 pistols.

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>>34429068
it's legal to have someone gift you a lower, paying for it is what makes it a straw purchase akshully

>>34429156
>receiving a gift from anyone other than a family member when you're under 21
reported to atf

>>34429156
Daddies money. Thats how you did it Chad.

>>34429169
>his dad didn't give him guns as a kid

Damn you had a shit family.

>>34429120
>"there's literally no difference between explaining a law and approving of it"
t. WhatCopyright

>>34429161
He said get someone to buy it for him tho, not gift it to him

>>34429187
No he made me buy my own gats Chad.

>>34429208
So he made you pay him for guns you couldn't buy yourself?

>>34429222
No chad I started buying guns through private sellers at the age of 11 with my own money.

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>>34428986
Depends on the application really. I think the m300 is more aesthetic, but it depends what you are trying to do.

>>34429240
>zip ties

>>34429003
Probably close to 10k

>>34429003
ARs only? Probably $1200

>>34429248
Not just any ol cheap zip ties. Those my friend are Ty Rap zip ties.

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>>34429248
What's wrong with zipties?

At younger than 21 you don't need an AR, you need to be focused on things like getting a job, building core savings so you dont live paycheck to paycheck, getting a vehicle and moving out of your parents' house. Or finishing college if you fell for that meme. Ar can come later once you're a productive citizen

>34429276
>need

>>34429284
>being this young
>muh yous

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>>34429276
But Im under 21 and have 2 ARs and one is waiting to be SBR'd and I still live comfy.>>34429276

>34429295
>it's impossible to afford a gun on top of other things
>imposing arbitrary restrictions on firearms because """need"""
I want commies to leave

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>>34427016
thanks friend

I ordered a Geissle MK8 15in because it was $200 shipped. Am I gucci yet?

>>34428579
It would look nice with a killflash