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An AK builder is going to let me rummage around in his "spare parts and bits/bobs" box to even out a trade we're doing.

I've never built shit in my life, anything in particular I should look for that would be useful to the average pleb?

Not looking for building tools or anything.
What are some easily identifiable things I could grab that it would be good to have as backup parts for my SAR and WASR?

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>>34399530
In. Again. dunno what happened to the old (new) thread

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Would an air hammer drive this in the rest of the way or would it just mushroom the head worse than it already is

>>34399530
what happened to the other thread

>My VEPR-12 shipped today

So I was planning on putting a US palm grip onto it, but it seems they've been out of production for a few years. What's the next most A E S T H E T I C AK grip a guy could purchase?

Also, I decided to go with a fixed stock M4 adapter instead of folding. I've had a folding stock before and never used it.

>>34399563
>>34399568
I goofed up forgetting the subject field so I baleeted it

http://pastebin.com/YdEkhdva

>>34399565
just grab the end real tight and pull it out

>>34399565
Why don't you take a reamer and ream the holes to size?

>>34399565
You could take the pin out and round the other end a bit then use grease to get it to go.

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Got a cardboard Spongebob toy today

Oh wait its a box, what's inside?

>>34399530
What's the best stamped 7.62 AK pistol? Will eventually have brace. Looked at Arsenal, but looks like all their pistols are milled receivers.

>>34399620
dildos

>>34399620
Personal lubricant?

>>34399620
well you ARE in the AK thread so i'm gonna go with a dragon dildo

>>34399603
Well I went to the reamer store but unfortunately they were all out of reamers

>>34399606
That's the plan for now, just gotta buy a new punch first

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>>34399620
The seller mixed up my tracking number with someone else's because the one I was given and had been checking isn't even the same one on the box, so I've been bitching about it and bitching about FedEx sending my stuff out east for no reason

>>34399565
Did you try moving the stock around while driving the pin?

>>34399700
Ye

>>34399530
>vepr 308 just arrived at LGS
>ordered 6 20-rd magazines from csspecs and 2 extra 5 rounders from kvar
>but the only 10-rd mag I got is the single one that comes with the gun

I see 10 rounders for $60 online, seems to be one of the last places that have them in stock. If you were me, would you buy some? Or is that a ripoff?

what's the best ak74 under $750? sar-2?

>>34399680
No need to be a snarky asshole.

Anyone use a SRVV Tacc Tube?

>>34399530
>In for new SLR-107-11
>Got it brand new in box for $900 even

Now to finish building my Russian AK kit and AMD-65 and I can go back to still spending money on more AK's

>>34399755

5.45 is not a good round, nor could you pick a worse time to buy a 5.45 gun.

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>>34399692
It sits like a half inch offset to the left and has a much larger field of view than the Obzor, however it has a teeny tiny amount of zoom (like maybe 1.1x if even that) that makes shooting with both eyes open a little goofy as the difference in zoom is so slight that my eyes are working overtime to focus. Both eyes open makes my left eye a little blurry, not sure if that's something I'll get used to or not. That's something that the Obzor does not have, however the Rakurs' glass is clear instead of purple (which the Obzor's purple doesn't bug me at all but some people don't like it)

>>34399730
>would you buy some?

They're made by molot, who is now included in sanctions. What's in the country, molot wise, is all that's (legally) coming in. If you want a stable of factory mags, buy them now.

>>34399845
5.45 is a fantastic round... in the Russian military loadings we're never going to get.

>>34399845
5.45 is great
>>34399890
you can still find 7n6 spam cans for not too much over new production

>>34399845
>5.45 is not a good round
Oh?

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>>34399909
>you can still find 7n6 spam cans for not too much over new production
Why though? The 60 grain stuff(golden tiger excluded) has huge air gaps in the front and yaws like mad with none of the cleanup.

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>>34399850
The reticle is a nice German post and is much bigger than the Obzor's reticle. The Rakurs also sits lower than the Obzor on the rifle. It's still a chin weld but not as much of a chin weld. The tritium on this one is still nice and bright too, since I bought it used I have no idea when it was manufactured so I'm not sure how long into the ~10 year lifespan of the tritium the optic is at

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>>34399755
Yeah most likely gonna be an SAR-2 unless you can find someone with a Saiga who doesn't know it's worth. I have an SAR-2 and it's been a great rifle.

>>34399755
Most definitely.

>>34399845
Bullshit.
It's basically the exact same as 5.56 but with a cooler looking rifle.

>>34399890
>>34399909
>Worst time to get into 5.45
>Ammo around 20 cents per round and not going up
Sure, it's not the 15 cents per round 5.45 we had a couple years ago, but it's still the equivalent of 5.56 at 2/3 the price.

If you're scared of a Russian import ban that's not going to happen unless we go to war with them.

>>34399758
Sorry, pretty frustrated

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>>34399996
>Sure, it's not the 15 cents per round 5.45 we had a couple years ago
m8, you were getting ripped off at 15c/r
I remember paying a little over 10c/r after shipping on my first order from sportsmans guide, unfortunately it's not on my account record any more.
11c/r before shipping was the norm for my other crates though.

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>>34399961
It is slightly heavier than the Obzor though. I've got to get used to it being slightly lower on the rifle as I'm so used to where the stock should be when using the Obzor

>>34400038
Sure, it used to be amazing wonderfully cheap ammo.

Now it's a 5.56 equivalent that can still be had for 10-20 cents per round cheaper.
Still a very good deal for what it is.

>>34399909
7n6 uses an unhardened steel penetrator. They changed this in the late 80s and have come out with three different improved projectiles since.

Furthermore, pretty much every commercial 60gr 5.45 loading tumbles reliably, as does GT.

Does anyone know of any facebook groups where pictures of Russian forces in the field are posted often? I want up to date pictures of Russian gear posted regularly

>>34400384
>>>34398173

>Government agents justifying browsing 4chan at work

>>34400421
I just want cool pics without sifting through google images for new pics or waiting for someone else to post them here.

>>34400392
Get on the Central Texas AK group and trade me some 5.45 for my nugget.

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>>34400446
I am lacking that 5.45 juice myself. I am under 2k and need to start finding those ammo deals. If something pops up I will hit you on on FB. It doesn't happen often but a few times a year larger ammo lots come up.

There were a few sets of ammo on TGT and arms list in the last month if I remember right. Otherwise SGammo =(

>>34400494
I want to zenit the front half of my slr107fr. Is it worth the money and dremel time?

>>34399565
Try putting them in the freezer and applying grease.

>>34400621
As some who just zenitfagged his slr104, it's a lot of work but not too difficult.
Go slow and check often. You have to take out a lot of material in block that lock in the trunnion, I chose to take the material off the top so that the bottom fits square. I also had to take off material from my handguard retention plate, and the block that locks into the plate.
Also it seems like the aluminum they used is softer and the finish isnt as durable as american made mil spec rails.
Looks cool as fuck though. Just saving for one of these
>>34400589

>AKS74u
>AKS74 x2
>RPK74
>M64 RPK
>M64 fixed stock
>AIMS-74 clone
>Draco
>M92
>Vepr IV
>PSL
>Vepr 12
>WASR underfolder
>Tabuk Sniper
>M76

What should I get next? I am thinking a M95 fixed stock.

>>34400621
Exactly what the other anon said. I was lucky and bought it with the Zenitco installed and modified. Very light weight!

>>34400741
forgot

>Polytec Spiker

>>34400695
>>34400621

I literally just got a block of wood and a mallet and forced it in. It deformed the aluminum to my front trunnion perfectly.

>>34400695
You'll love it. Make sure you try out the more focused illuminator lens and really dial it all the way down :^)

>>34400811
am I the only one who thinks veprs are ugly as fuck? Literally looks like a hunting gun.

>>34400830
I'm the opposite, I think standard wood VEPRs look the best, second only to VEPR Supers.

>>34400797
There may be different specs on the Slrs? I tried the drunken Russian with a hammer method, there's no way it would have fit. That shit would have been like Shorty Mac on a 5 year old. I probably took at least a quarter inch of material off and still had to hammer it in.
And my only problem is, when I get a Perst, all my AR's will get incredible penis envy that they don't also get uncucked IR devices.

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>>34400830

>am I the only one who thinks veprs are ugly as fuck?

yes

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>>34400741
you should get some reason
use your shit instead of collecting it
>2-3 rifles, the ones that work best for you, use them, create something special, pass them to your kids when you get old, etc etc

>>34400863
As much as it pains me to admit it, my AR rifles (only 2, one in 556 and one in 308) are much more usable than my AKs.

I get ARs to "use" and I like to collect AKs

>>34400853
Just swap it back and forth. The best part about having a slaved laser is that you can just zero off your optic in daytime and it's good enough.

>>34400741
>Tabuk Sniper
Pls gibe.

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>>34400979
Honestly it's not my favorite.

M76 I like a lot more.

>>34401035
Does it have Arabic markings?

>>34401055
Yes, Two Rivers did an amazing job on it, it just is kind of meh to me since it wasnt a kit built. I mostly have a hard on for kit builds.

>>34401020
Gross.

>>34401073
How much would you want for it/got an account on the akfiles?

>>34401124
Yea ive had one on there since 2008ish. And I dont really plan on selling it. I just got it in like March or April.

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>>34401174
Gotcha.

>>34401190
If you want one they sell them through their distributor for like $1980. It comes with a reproduction owners manual, it's all in Arabic but it's kinda neat.

>>34401091
=)

>>34400741
Just so you know the meet has been moved to Sunday, July 23rd. You may still be in Nihon then but just letting you know.

>>34401335
Hmm. I get back the 21st. I may try to make it depending on how fucking tired I am.

>tfw landing in Baltimore and then driving back to Greensboro

Is it weird that I'm setting aside money for the return of the 107fr and 104fr? I've already got one of each, but I want two. I thought about a 107r but that fucking 90 degree gas block stopped the sale every time I went to add to cart.

There's nothing on the market that makes me want to buy anymore. Just ammo really. Even the plentiful mags are starting to dry up.

>>34401432
Get into parts kits. They are way more fun.

>tfw scored slr107cr last year for 700

>>34401449
Nice, I just sold one for $1400

>>34400741
Galil

>>34401432
whats wrong with 90 degree gas block

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I GOT IT

>>34401410
Well it's gonna be another decent drive down to Shelby for you to come so I don't blame you if you skip out but we'd be happy to have you, just let us know.

>>34401715
Fuck that looks just as good as I hoped it would. Nice work.

Let's see a left side view with the stock folded.

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>>34398284
fellow alaska fag?

>>34401737
Hold on I'm violating 9**r

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>>34401715
You're missing the hole!!!!! gross

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>>34401789
totally get it bro, most of these guys around here are LITERALLY playing with fire posting their noncompliant rifles. If you're as deep in the game as me no way do you take the chance. I keep documentation of the origins of all my AK parts including high-res photos of the US markings on a flash drive in my asshole at all times.

>>34401808
what is the function of the hole, anyway?

>>34401850
Bullet to fold the stock, they used to not really have a lever on the other side.

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>>34401808
I know it actually makes me sad. But I don't trust myself enough to make that hole with a cordless drill, lol. I'll let the builder work it out. It sucks though

Wish I had a slant brake to put on it for lols but the only one I own is at JBI with my kit. The 68 I still haven't sold is a muzzle nut.

>>34399530
Is the barrel full of mud? Where can i get the clips to stick extra bullets to my gun?

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>>34400017
Yeah, pretty nerve-wracking when you're about to fuck up your gun.

>>34401995
Sometimes you just gotta take a breather and come back to it fresh

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>>34401949
That is lovely and now I'm asshurt that someone told me it couldn't be done so I didn't buy a vepr.

>>34401949
When are you sending it off to the guncuck?

>>34402092
I wasn't certain it would work myself, but the trunnion installed is identical to the loose one I have, except for one small notch

>>34402392
Early next year hopefully

>>34402409
So you'll have it by 2021. Nice.

>>34402467
Get fucking hype

>>34399565
I'd get the proper pin punch, remove that pin and replace it. Beating a mushroomed pin into a hole is begging to get it stuck.

If your new pin doesn't fit, you can chuck it in an electric drill then polish it down (do the whole length) with emery cloth or even sand paper.

You can use nylon strapping tape as backing to turn any sandpaper you have into a tough polishing strip.

>>34402492
I've learned to just forget about them and the wait doesn't kill. I never buy the 2-3 months lead

>>34399680
>Well I went to the reamer store but unfortunately they were all out of reamers

I buy reamers online as needed, but rather than fucking with the parts it's much easier to polish the pin.

Grease won't cure the mushroomed pin. Use a new straight pin or remove the mushroom. Resist the urge to nigger the job.

>>34402409
>I wasn't certain it would work myself

When I asked I was told that it would absolutely not work at all and I wasn't about to spend over a grand to fuck around with it and realize I should have bought the fixed stock and had it converted instead. I'm happy you got it to work though. I'll experience RPK ownership through you.

Having said that, all of you guys talking about getting kits built made me really want to buy a few myself, so now I have that to look forward to.

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Rate (this is the before pic of a before and after which should be done by next week)

>>34402603
Shit /10

>>34402603
I actually think the tapco saw grips are pretty decent grips, everything else is garbage though desu

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>>34402536
True wisdom. I was planning on trying to turn down the pin once I got it out. I used the cut off end of the broken punch with some vise grips to knock it back out. I ended up using a different pin rather than that mushroomed one and evidently the other pin was a smaller diameter and it went in a lot easier. I have used the cordless drill lathe method before with good results.

>>34402559
It all worked out fortunately, I was looking for any way to get it done that didn't involve me waiting for a reaming bit to ship, impatient yes.

>>34402556
I'm hoping JBI was bullshitting me because 6 months is already a long lead time for a builder. I'm 2 months deep now.

>>34402590
>and realize I should have bought the fixed stock and had it converted instead.
This was my original plan all the way up to clicking add to cart. Rolled the dice and it worked out for me.

>>34402603
Just learn to be happy with it yourself, you've been seeking validation for that thing nonstop, it's good you're excited about it but you don't need our aapproval.

>>34402693
Wasn't bullshitting*

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>>34402693
>Just learn to be happy with it yourself, you've been seeking validation for that thing nonstop, it's good you're excited about it but you don't need our aapproval

Sounds like he would make an excellent tripfag

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>>34402726
What are you implying

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>>34402693
I'm 2 months in my aims

>>34402641
Ik
>>34402659
They're so uncomfortable though
>>34402693
I'm not really "seeking" approval, I'm just bored (plus it's my first ak)

>>34402833
what is it exactly? I can't read the side of it from your picture. I'll never understand why people put magpul and tapco furniture shit on their AKs

>>34402843
The gun or tapco? It's a 1976 WASR with tapco
And magpul is good mate

>>34402879
magpul is good for ARs, but damn ugly on AKs imo. If you want to fix it, put a slant brake and a romy stock set, +1 if it has the dong. Just my opinion but I think others would agree your rifle would be 10x better looking that way.

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Just picked up this Vepr
Bought it from a friend for bout 700 shipped

It's basically brand new
Now what scope do I get

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>>34402603

>>34402898
I already bought a magpul zhukov, it looks like the AK-12 stock and the only good looking AK magpul furniture IMO (fuck the handguard I went with wood)
>Romy
I looked it up, what the fuck is wrong with you
>>34402911
Holy shit lol

>>34402929
what do you mean the fuck is wrong with you retard? what do you have against Romanian wood on a Romanian rifle? fucking bubbas infesting akg

>>34402900
Congrats on a steal of a price! Currently selling for around double on GB!

Look into an RS Regulate mount with a PA micro dot and call it a great day!

>>34402948
It doesn't matter if the stock is romanian, it looks like shit and probably doesn't do too great unless you're like sweeping rooms or as a truck gun
How am I gonna hit shit at 300 yards with that?
Also define "bubba"

>>34402970
my bad I forgot magpul adds +5 accuracy to your assault rifle. Romy wood is only good for short range combat, I should've known that. you're a real idiot. Good luck hitting 300 yards with iron sights when you've just bought your first gun.

>>34402957
Selling for profit is illegal

>>34402991
I knew all my russian laminate and triangles were trash this whole time. I'm throwing them out right now and getting that +5 accuracy with an RAS magpuled the fuck out

>>34403023
what were you thinking ya dingus, plastic is the only choice for long range shooting. russian or romy wood is only good for beating heads in cause you won't be able to shoot anything with it on your rifle.

>>34402991
What exactly makes magpul a bad product? I only bought a stop and pistol grip, the latter I have a wood replacement if necessary. And I bought a side rail dumbfuck

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>>34403071
congrats on your utg pro. it's totally gonna work great on it. and I never said it is, I like their AR magazines. But they're not the best for AK products. Surplus and ruskie shit is pretty much the way to go.

>>34403038
Holy, why wasn't I told about this. So many embarrassing trips to the range, I just cant

>>34403089
Don't forget the amazon milspec scope to go with it

>>34403005
Fucking your mother isn't.

>>34403038
>>34403114
Mag pul also looks more natural on an ak. You just reap the benefits from how fluid the rifle becomes.

And I thought my ak was better than the magpuled ones at the range. I've been wrong the whole time and had a rifle that won't function properly

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>>34403162
just look how awful this shit looks, I bet it's not even polymer, I bet it weighs you down like an extra couple ounces. Pee yew.

>spray Barricade around optic rail
>use canned air to push it further through crevices
>wipe away excess that comes out other side
>repeat

Is there any better way for me to ensure the unfinished area behind my optic rail is protected from rust, short of removing it, refinishing the receiver, and riveting it back in place? I feel like this might already be overkill but if there's any better way to buy myself peace of mind I'm all ears.

>>34403246
Cat milk.

>>34403194
If you had magpul you could've put the forward angle on it

Anyone know where I can score some nice wood 74 furniture that doesn't cost a gorillian dollars?

Don't see any for sale on akfiles. I need that sweet, sweet palm swell handguard and those sexy lightening cuts.

There's a VEPR in 7.62x54R for sale near me. Should I buy it before the price goes through the roof?

>>34403489
got anything specific in mind? like you want it russian specifically taken off a 74? cause you can buy 47 wood and fit it on a 74.

>>34403529
gotta tell us how much it is first b4 we can say its a good deal or not

>>34403542
About $1k.

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I went through the pastebin, but didn't see anything referencing this.

Where can I find Russian optics? Surplus or new doesn't much matter.

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>>34403532

Just average 74 style furniture with the palm swell and lightening cuts in the stock.

I'm trading for a Arsenal SLR107R soon and hate the black poly furniture that comes on them and while I love plum it just doesn't look right with bakelite mags.

>>34403597
Ebay, forums, Kalinka

>>34403597
Kalinka, AKfiles, and Atlantic Firearms.

You'll find them cheaper on AKfiles for sure by $100 or more than the other two so make an account there now so it can be approved later on and you can post on the forums.

>>34399850
Correction to this, i was wrong about its zoom. It appears to have a slight negative zoom, things are ever so slightly smaller/farther away when looking through it, like maybe 0.9x or 0.95x. Not enough to be that big of a deal but enough to confuse your brain when shooting with both eyes open

Also someone please buy that $250 PK-AS on the files, that's a really good price and I really want it but I need to get my kit built and can't afford to keep dropping ~$300 on optics. Plus I've only got one gun with a side rail so I can't even use more than one at a time

>>34403543
>about
OK man. If it's less than 1300 I would, if more then no.

Looking at getting an ak as my second gun. I looked in the pastebin and decided on either a Serb NPAP or a WASR from Atlantic firearms.

these are my final two options and was wondering on what you all might pick or recommend.

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>>34403885
get the wasr.

Don't bother with yugos unless you can find an opap. The wasr will take most akm furniture and has a bayo lug and a chrome lined barrel.

You can make a pap look okay, but it's more trouble than its worth.

Here's a pic of my old opap with a manticore arms triangle stock, Stormwerkz side folding hinge, and an adaptor block that I can't remember who made, but it wasn't Ace.

>>34403885
Go with the WASR.
I love my Yugos but they are kind of a snowflake when it comes to furniture and optic mount selection.

>>34403939
>an adaptor block that I can't remember who made
Krebs?

>>34403957
That's the one. Has a lot more mounting positions than the ACE adaptor block.

Also Yugos don't use AK style side rails. It's svd or something. I never found out for sure.

>>34399996

>5.45 the same as 5.56

if by worse in everyway you are correct, especially with the junk 5.45 underloaded commercial ammo.

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>>34404055
>It's svd or something. I never found out for sure
It's an M21 rail.
Closest match is the SVD rail, but I believe there is a slight difference.
I just went with a RS Regulate 307 mount but there are some other options out there for a more combloc look.

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=186767

>>34404086
Even the cheapest underloaded commercial 5.45 tumbles reliably, and does so more quickly in soft tissue than 5.56 yaws, fragments, or expands if you're shooting SP or HP.

If you want to see some really effective shit, go look at what the new production 7.62x39 8m3 does to flesh.

>>34400854
Wrong

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My newest

>>34400830
I may only own 3 veprs with the rpk style furniture, and the tube/clubfoot folder stocks, but I think the sporters both look and feel really good.

>>34405349
Who made the wood?

>>34405371
Do your Veprs have painted bolts? Mine is just parked. Also has a spring loaded firing pin.

>>34405349
>ordered from Khyber customs
>tfw they accidentally sent me a battlefield pickup lower handguard
>tfw they're going to send some pics and let me pick out a replacement today
Nicest people ever, wish I had heard of it them earlier

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>>34405407
Can't say for sure on all of them, but the vepr12 and 1v for sure do not have painted bolts based on pictures I'm finding.
I can't remember what my fime group 20.5" 308 has, but it's basically a clone of yours other than barrel length.
Here's my 1v rpk and ak-74.

>>34405373
Ironwood. Matt's a nice guy, I sent him an email after seeing elsewhere online that they were making FM AK furniture and even though it's not on his site he let me order some.

>>34405492
They're a great company, honestly. 10/10 have recommended to all my friends.

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>>34405528
here's the vepr12

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/akg/ I'm an AK virgin who has put together a few AR15s and am now considering building an AMD65 on a Childers polish 80% receiver

Does anybody have any experience with the kits from Classic Firearms? Also, any experience converting it to a fixed stock? Would I just need a different rear trunnion?

One more question, anyone know where to get a top half handguard? Pic related

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>>34399530
Here's another pic of that guy with his AK

>>34405588
Do you have AK building tools? If not just stop where you are. Building an AK is not like Assembling an AR.

Shit quality but vid shows an AR vs an AK and the tools involved.

>>34405588
>kits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qII--gVF03M

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>>34405785

I have sourced a drill press and a place to rent a welder. I am still researching how difficult this is but really want to challenge myself

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>>34405788

Thanks man. I'm about to drive into the mountains but I'll watch this soon.

>>34405902
Since your just going to weld why don't you save yourself the trouble and just do a screw build. They'll both most likely kaboom anyways

>>34405588
>>34405588
Here's a solid link for some custom amd parts you will definitely want
http://www.amd65tech.com/expertise.html

>>34405902
Someone posted a pic of a kaboomed weld build just a day or two ago. Why waste your money and risk your own wellbeing?

>>34406198
>>34405971

Don't you need to spot weld the rails to complete a receiver?

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>>34406198
>>34406277
I saved it because I thought it was hilarous

>>34406318
See this, Chimps and True Black Anon? This is what will happen to your kits if you let that yokel build them.

>>34406277
Poster said drill press +welder.
Nothing about hydraulic press/jigs. Do the math

>>34406379
That was my rationale

>>34406354
Lel

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>>34406318
4 small spot welds
where you need a 1 cm pin and welds
the part with the most stress and the only part that need to be decently put together
seriously put it together better and learn to weld

Should I get one of those '88 kits and a Bulgarian barrel or just buy a sgl31? I really want a fixed stock 74.

>>34406415
That's a tough one

>>34406354
Duh didn't you know the BR in BR7.62 stands for Blown Receiver??

>>34406415
If you get one of those kits you're looking at $650 for the kit, $250 for the barrel, ~$750-$1000 in build costs, and depending on your receiver anywhere from like $100-$200 (if you're going to have one of these kits built you might as well go all out on the receiver and have a proper clone build). You're gonna be spending about $500 more on the kit build than you would on a used SGL

You'd be better off with an SGL if you're not wanting a clone build, or even better just convert a Saiga if you want the cheapest

>>34406379

I was the guy asking about building. I admit I'm just beginning to learn what all this entails. Do you not need to weld the rails if you use a press and flat?

>>34406447
Or if you really want a kit build instead of a complete rifle for whatever reason and don't care about much Russian you can find Bulgarian 74 kits for fairly cheap and build costs on those would only be like $400ish

>>34406447
The build costs won't be nearly that high if you get somebody to do the regular method of just drilling the dimples out and welding them back up

>>34406493
True but from what I've read it'll still be $100 to $200 more than just normal pinned components

But again it all comes back to if you're wanting to have one of these $650 kits built why not go all the way and have it built correctly? If you're not gonna want to do it correctly just get a cheaper Bulgarian kit and save money

>>34406415
Whenever in doubt just get the factory rifle

is there any way to tell what kind of stock this is/which country it was made

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-420-UNKNOWN-COMPOSITE-RIFLE-STOCK-10-3-8/282386970970?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3D226ac1af648c48f6a24933efd428cdd6%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D152602950304

>>34406678
Might be Russian, based on the "M" stamp. One of the pics makes it look like a very, very dark plum, and the lightening cut indicates it's an AK-74 stock. If it's not Russian, then it's probably Bulgarian.

>>34405051
That coat deserves a well dressed Maadi at the minimum

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I have a maintenance question.
Is there a specific cleaning kit for AKs? I recently aquired a Zastava M92 and I want to clean it.
Also
The button/pin that holds the gas tube cover is stuck is there a special tool I can use?
Pic related.

>>34406849
its not like a krinkov where the pin pivots with the dust cover, you'll need to smack that fucker in with a hammer and punch to get your handguard off

>>34406849
Use some CLP/Break Free and what the anon above suggested.

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>>34406849
Why the do you need to remove it ?

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>>34406849
The pin on mine is the same way, I generally use a punch to knock it in.

>>34406871
>>34406893
Thanks
>>34406907
Idk to clean it /look at it and stuff

>>34406415
Rguns is selling '88 kit builds for $1100 on GB. US made barrel though. I was going to get one for the fuck of it but found an SLR107f I'm going to pick up tomorrow.

>>34406941
No matter what I end up with, it's going to have a proper chf chromed barrel. Thanks for the heads up though. Enjoy your new raifu.

>>34406893
How many people got asshurt when you posted that you swapped your vepr for that 105 clone on reddit?

>>34407015
Yup, I hope you find what you want. I gave up looking for a decent 74 until the 104s come back.

picked up a full auto hammer to replace the tapco g2.

problem.

unless I hold the trigger pulled. which holds the hammer down even further. the bolt carrier will not go forward.

some neat new pics of russian special forces operating in here. seems like a lot of them are still using 7.62x39 ak's. anyone know what kinda stuff they would still use those for?

https://twitter.com/warsmonitoring/status/879676577436622849

>>34407330
7.62 is more common in that region. Their targets have a lot of cover.

>>34407305
Did you put in in an AK-74 or other wise non-AKM?

>>34407344
*it in

>>34407033
A few did, nothing makes me happier than internet folk upset about something they don't even own.

But muh VEPR will be worth so much money! That was the consensus. Just shot the 105 clone today and it was a great decision for me.

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>>34407354
Care to explain this?

>>34407344
74

>>34407330
I'll venture a guess. "Shooting" seems reasonable.

>>34407361
That would explain it. I had the same problem. Is the hammer an AKM/AK-47 hammer? The only way you might be able to get it to fit is to take a rasp or rotary tool and smooth out the surface of the hammer face, which will defeat the point of using a surplus hammer anyway since it will get dinged to heck.

>>34407330
It's almost like all the forces they're working with use 7.62x39 AK's or something!

>>34407360
Says everything right there.

>>34407413
does the russian government not give them any ammo once they get over there or something?

Who makes a hammer that works with the tapco g2 trigger and in a bulgarian 74, that won't peen the bolt carrier like the tapco g2 hammer?

how hard is it to reprofile the the g2 hammer? my LGS wants $25 to do the machining.

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>>34407416
You never actually rationalized how the Midwest industries Gen 2 is copying the RS regulate? It just sounds like you have some sort of vested interest in RS Regulate or some personal beef with Midwest industries.

>>34406447
>>34406461
>>34406522
Did you ever send your kit in?

>>34407433
No. If they have to get ammo off dead bodies it's gonna be 7.62x39.

>>34407433
Of course they do but the ability to use the same gear, mags, etc when shit gets serious is an added benefit. Turn this into anti-Russian meme posting all you want but our own government tried the same stuff in Iraq and Afghanistan, although due to the fact that we don't issue AK's or train on them much, they tried to make due with 7.62x39 AR abortions that never made it past a trial and by the time they had anything that was semi-notshit, most of the Iraqi forces and half the Afghani forces were using old hand me down M16A2's and stuff.

>>34407467
Plus if they have to go in. They can deny they went in.

>>34407457
Well if you don't see it then that is on you. I'm not here to draw the similarities to convince you to see.

Fuck MI. RS is a better quality product. No more invested personally than my experiences with both companies. MI made and makes good gear I can't deny that.

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>>34407459
No, I sold something to pay for it then used half of that money on dumb stuff like 9x39 mags and Rakurs. I'm about $300 shy of how much I'll need for the build, but I've got around $70 of stuff for sale on the Files, $200 of stuff on eBay, and I might be selling my Makarov this weekend for another $350 so I hope to have the kit sent in next week or so

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>>34399530
is it a retarded idea to put a new arsenal bolt carrier group in a wasr with 1000+ rounds through it?

>>34407597
Yes, what would even incline you to do that

>>34407597
Is your WASR broken or something?

>>34407597
Oh wait

Are you the cursed anon

>>34407614
the carrier tail is mushrooming.

is the head spacing going to blow it up?

>>34407628
Just dremel it down to size if it gets to the point where it starts hanging up. You should be able to use any given bolt carrier and it work, but you can't replace bolts and just assume headspace is correct.

>>34407628
>the carrier tail is mushrooming.

That happens

Get a new recoil spring

>>34407637
None of my AKs have any more mushrooming than what is barely able to be felt with a fingernail

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>>34407653

>>34407660
Point being it doesn't happen, you're doing it wrong

Has anyone thought about possibly trying to use one of those echo binary trigger systems or something similar with an RPK semi variant with a drum mag to get a somewhat legal area of denial gun (given cost of full auto LMG)

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>>34407667
>Point being it doesn't happen

>>34407628
>the carrier tail is mushrooming.

>>34407667
>you're doing it wrong


>None of my AKs have any mushrooming
ditto

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Guis with mushroom tail u gotta get a wolf power spring and a Justin McCormick trigger system

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ДTК-3 came in today, looking forward to seeing how the ДTК-1's bigger brother fares at the range tomorrow.

The fucker weighs 7.9oz, so if nothing else then the weight will mitigate recoil.

>>34407704
Happen no, caused yes. If you think like an adult this will be a lot easier

>>34407354
>muh VEPR will be worth so much money!

Maybe if it sits oiled in a box in the back of a dry safe for 20 or 30 years. Maybe.

>>34407532
What does Rakurs translate to?

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>>34407740
>Happen no, caused yes.

You can cause something to happen and mushrooming can occur without user error.


>If you think like an adult this will be a lot easier
I refuse.

>>34407753
According to google translate, Rakurs (Paкypc) translates to foreshortening or angle. Obzor (Oбзop) translates to overview and Kashtan (Кaштaн) translates to chestnut. It's kind of funny how Rakurs and Obzor translate to things relating to eyes and scopes, but Kashtan is chestnut.

>>34405603
Who is he? legit interested.

>>34407628
get the g2 out of your wasr and get a romanian surplus trigger group

>>34407867
https://www.apexgunparts.com/ak-semi-auto-trigger-pack-w-hammer-new-romanian.html

this?

>>34407910
Using a romanian trigger will prevent mushrooming on your bolt carrier.
People say mushrooming is either caused by the hammer being harder than the bolt carrier, or the geometry of the trigger being all fucked up.
I don't know which one is true, but you can solve both potential issues with a surplus hammer connected to your rifle's country.

>>34407940
My AK74 was built from bulgarian parts kit.

anyone know where to get a bulgarian hammer?

flandre never got mine from the parts get back to me.

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>>34407748
Exactly and mean while I will shoot the 105clone until I find another rifle I want more. I don't get safe queen rifles. A friend has a $4,000 MK18 build and he shoots it and treats it like a rifle, no babying or being afraid or cosmetic damage.

To each their own.

>>34408010
Camo paint that shit man

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>>34408010
Since you left the riser on your PT-1 I take it you'll be adding an optic?

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>>34408037
Eh it will leave it like it is, it doesn't cause me seizures like it does the internet. No reason to spend more money, it functions just as I want it to.

>>34408083
I need to pick up the other screw attachment. It did not come with unfortunately. But yes the plan is to throw my T-1 and 3x onto the 105clone. RS Regulate side rail with full picatinny attachment to house them.

I turned the riser around to allow proper viewing of the irons.

>>34408168
You should try one of the new MI side rails, I heard they were pretty good.

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>>34408168
Enjoy, I love this stock.

You'll still be able to collapse it over the RS mount too, which is often overlooked.

>>34408225
das it

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very old pic of my slr-104fr. I currently have a steel triangle folder , wooden bulgarian hand guards, and a PA 5x prism.

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>>34408211
No thanks I am set with the RS.

>>34408257
So far I am totally convinced about the stock. I never understood the hype before laying hands on it. You are correct it fits perfectly over the RS with folded which is another selling point for the RS for me.

Nice photo!

>>34408225
Looking good brother! Enjoy that VEPR! It was much heavier than I expected, super nice build however!

>>34408225
Up till just now, I was thinking that project was done on a 308 gun.
IDK how I got that in my head.
Looks great though.

Alright /akg/, got some questions for y'all. I just got a set of new Bakelite furniture, and I don't want to put it on either of my two current AKs, a WASR with perfect red wood and an Arsenal SLR-107FR.

Should I get a Draco or similar AK pistol to SBR, and if so which one, or should I just wait and focus on getting a VERP 12 before they're all expensive as fuck? Or, dumbest option, could I get one of those Chiappa/Charles Daly AK-9s and SBR it with regular AK furniture?

>>34408257
>>34408342
I had no idea about that, now I really want one. I don't even have an RS mount or any western optics for my AK, but being able to close the stock while using the side rail would be awesome

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>>34408342
Another thing you may notice... for AK reloads I like to pull the rifle back and tuck the stock under my arm. The PT-1 is so nice and thin, you can really pinch it in there and manage any front-heaviness rather easily. That's probably less of an issue for a 104/105, although I'm sure your full-length rails adds some weight up front.

Without the riser the cheekweld is perfect for irons and cowitnessed red dots, but little rubber strip that goes in place of the riser is kinda flimsy.

vzbro, if you're in here did you buy your vz with the side rail or did you have it installed? I'm thinking about adding one to mine because I don't have any side rails on any of my 7.62x39 guns and I like my vz the most. If I do though I'd have to source one of those fancy shell deflectors or have one made or something which will be a pain

>>34399575
Anybody have an answer for this? Looking for an aesthetic grip like the us palm since they're out of production.

There are airsoft ones available but I doubt they'd survive a vepr 12

>>34408571
M O L O T

http://armsofamerica.com/original-russian-molot-grip.aspx

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>>34408620
I don't actually like the molot grip that much. Does it come with a grip screw?


Also, why did us palm stop making their awesome grips but kept making their ugly mags?

>1st mag came in today
>holy duck this thing is massive
Is a vepr 12 drum worth the $90 for the meme?

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>>34408469
I had mine installed after I'd bought it. I had a local smith put it on, but it was some oddball tap he needed to match the screw that came with it. He said it was super easy other than that.
Finding a shell deflector is the biggest pain in the arse about it, and you have to grind a little bit off the mount half of the scope to make it fit between the actual scope and mount.

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>>34408469
You can kindof see here that the deflector goes between the two pieces of the scope so it's held on by the scope screws.
That's why a little bit of filing is involved.

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anyway to tell which country this stock is from? i just bought it for 25 bucks

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>>34408805

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>>34408656
>Is a vepr 12 drum worth the $90 for the meme?
Sure.
They're fun, but don't hold any ideas about them being very rugged.
If you drop it on hard ground, it will break off a tab or 2 on the rear cover.
It's not detrimental to function, but it is a poor choice in design.

Also note that some 2 3/4 shells will not feed depending on the crimp used.
There's a tiny ledge right under the feed tower that causes them to hang up.
I've thought about rounding it off with a file to get it to work with any crimp, but I've been lazy.

>>34408819
From the earlier pictures I would venture to guess Russian or Bulgarian because of the silver stamp up front, and because the buttplate is held in by flathead screws.

>>34408819
>>34408805
Looks Russian. Did you realize the frontmost part of the stock was cut off when you bought it? It will probably still work though.

>>34407597
That's not even a whole lot of rounds.
What's wrong?

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>>34408852
thanks
>>34408862
i thought it looked weird actually but i just figured that's how it was supposed to be because why would someone cut that part off. hopefully it still works

>>34408849
They just seem ungodly huge. Isn't there a 20rd drum? Could a saiga drum be modified to work? I know saiga stick mags can.
So far the only mags I'll have are the Molot 5rd, two CSSPEC 10rds, and the SGM 12 round.

>>34407529
There is literally nothing in common with these two mounting systems but the fact that they both have some degrees of modularity.

>>34408905
>They just seem ungodly huge.
They are, but it's not that bad
>Isn't there a 20rd drum?
MaxRounds makes a 20 rounder.
It's ~$600.
>Could a saiga drum be modified to work? I know saiga stick mags can.
I don't think so, and I'm pretty sure Saiga mags can't be made to work in a Vepr unless you remove the magwell.
Vepr 12 mags can work in a Saiga though if it's got the magwell (Saiga 12 030)

>>34409013
I've seen people cut the mag catch off the saiga mags and make them work. At least some specific brand of stick mag. BHO wont work.

>$600
Good fuck

>>34408439
>less
Yeah the stock it really a wonderful and highly adjustable platform and I am digging it thus far. Have you tried reversing the cheek riser?

It allows for perfect irons use also, not able to try red dot co-witness but It looks like it would be also.

>>34409062
I just ditched it to save weight, the rifle it's on >>34408083 is plenty heavy as it is. I hope to get my hands on an 1P87 soon, in which case I will probably put the riser on again.

>>34409094
Cheers I find the rifle to be lighter than I would have initially expected. I may ditch the full rail system in time, especially if I just use the RS combo. No need for extra rail weight.

Grinding my g2 hammer on my lawn tool sharpening stone

>>34405297

this 5.56 especially m885 is shit

>>34408083
Who makes that FH?

Got a friend selling an NDM-86, anyone baller enough to buy it?

It comes with 16x mags, 1 crate of surplus 54r, and the velvet lined case with all extras included.

>>34409784
Tell your friend I will suck his peepee seven times for his NDM

>>34409819
It's an incredible rifle, I was able to shoot it once and that satisfies me. $8,000+ package deal.

Lots of BJ's and he has an SO. You best be darn good ol boy.

>>34409836
Post pictures please.

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>>34409549
It's the Armacon VOLK.

>>34409784
I might consider it as long as his wife isn't in the hospital.

Izzy grip mold numbers 1/1 and 1/2 came off the line in the same time period, right?

>>34410030
Depends, they used the same mold numbers on matte and shiny grips.

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Hello. I am lost.
Where the hell is the battle rifle thread?

>>34410201
Shiny in this case for both. I'm eyeing a 1/1 that's got some nice flecks but I don't know if it's earlier production than the 1/2. Could've sworn they came off the same tree based on the numbering but I'm not certain.

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My LGS has this VEPR in 7.62 for 800, should I go for it? Or get an arsenal SLR 107-11 for 900? I'd rather have the features of the arsenal but considering the VEPR for a short term investment to resell. The clerk doesn't think much of them tho and is trying to sell the arsenal

>>34410430
I'd just get the SLR

>>34410430
SLR my dude

>>34410430
Tough call, is probably just camp out for a FR

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>>34409881
Need to find better.

>>34409927
His lady is fine, just summer time blues.

>>34410661
FR?

Even if the SLR is better would the VEPR make me some dough?

>>34410726
Maybe like $500 in like half a decade and only if you kept it NIB

>posts an "I'll take it"
>doesn't follow up with a PM

>>34410734
Theres VEPRS on gun broker for like 1400 so you think no ones gonna buy them?

>>34410754
Do you still like that zenit shit? Isn't it a bit heavy?

>>34410786
High prices will peak in the next few weeks most likely

>>34410788
It's not at heavy as you would expect, at least not for me.

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>>34410868
>It's not at heavy as you would expect, at least not for me.
But vince, you're such a big guy. I mean, that prostitute wanting to suck and fuck your cock mmmhhh so much XD

>>34410940
One day you will get laid. ;)

>>34411125
The fact that that is your only recourse, and always seems to be, gives me a mighty chuckle.

>>34411125
Go home David.

>>34411136
We all laugh together then. =) A joyous circle jerk!
>>34411194
=P

Some cool aks
https://videos.funker530.com/bitmotive/public/funker530/v1.0/videos/funker530/27782ad98f5cb8f682e14eade16df2ff/854x480.mp4

how do i put the gastube retention metal peice back on a slr104fr correctly?

>>34411296
Just push it on

>>34411318
lever wont close with it on

is there anywhere i can buy a polymer ak handguard for like $32 or less? it's all i have in my paypal

>>34411318
>>34411325
nvm got it,
also is a SLR104-31 with 2 mags for $850 decent?
how i do

>>34411350
A 104fr for $850? Absolutely. Was someone selling it to get out of 5.45 or what?

>>34411350
Good

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>>34411389
>>34411390
local guy, rifle looks good overall he threw in a triangle folder and a poly folder stock, but he used brake cleaner on the arsenal bolt and now its all parked, gray like a vepr.

>also the mag release takes 30lbs to release

>>34411330
I have a set of kvar ones. If you want

>>34411596
how much

>>34411684
$23 shipped sound good?

>>34411908
sure

>>34411955
You have a burner email? If you get the funds transferred tonight I'll have it shipped tomorrow, Monday latest. I'll send pics of course. What ak are they going on?

>>34412023
[email protected]. just a wasr

>>34412065
I was about to say seriously but that is an actual email service

>>34412126
yeah some dude from /g/ started it i think