Eternal Milsurp thread

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>>34237574

Soft head mallet

>>34237606
I tried whacking it with a hammer with a towel as a buffer

>>34237613
Rubber mallet

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>>34237760
I'm gonna put a few boxes of ammo through it. That's ought to loosen things up

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>>34237929

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>>34237574
Get that stock fixed

While applying pressure to the capture spring (you do know there's a capture spring, right?) stick a flathead screwdriver in between the rear of the band and the nose of the stock. Twist back and forth carefully to inch the barrel band off until it can be removed by hand. Alternate from one side of the band to the other if concerned about damage to the stock or band finishes and it continues to be stubborn after breaking loose.

>>34238033
I don't want to gouge the wood, the capture spring ( I assume this is the thing you press down on to take the front band off, normally being easy) seems to be depressed even when the hole is lined up with the nub. Ill give it a shot though

>>34237558
Get a clamp and some padding, and clamp that forward band spring all the way down. Next you just have to do the brute work of hitting it with a punch and mallet.

Make sure the rifle isn't hot or humid, because the small amount of wood that the forward band contacts can be seized by the wood swelling onto it.

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I finally got number 2 on my list yesterday.

>>34237558
I'm waiting for my background check delay to end for the Yugo K98k I bought today. It was only 240 after tax.

Has a G33/40 Mountain Carbine bolt. Will post pics when I get it if the thread is still up.

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>>34237574
You bidding on that one?

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>>34237558
It's missing my new Enfield.

>>34238242
Ooh, nice deal

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Just bought pic related. This gun looks cool as hell and I love milsurp rifles.

>>34238481
>buy it now
>700 dollarydoos
Jesus Christ, anon. You couldn't wait and bid?

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>>34237558
Try lightly dropping the stock on a work bench. Impact can loosen rusted or seized parts.

>>34238504

I've bid on 5 Hakim rifles. The lowest winning bid was $675 and the highest was $706. I figured some asshole would outbid me if I tried so I just thought I'd buy the damn thing then.

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>>34238481
$700 is at the high end of the price range imo, but the gun is so fucking rad I wouldn't really care. Mine shoots quarter sized 5 shot groups at 100 yards and is just too fun

>>34238531
I need to check our local shop, they had one in 8mm mauser so I looked at it, then put it back...

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I hit the area with a heat gun. Running some ammo will heat it up and loosen it, too.

>>34238104
On my spic mauser, the spring lever things were so full of gunk that the only way I could depress them was to put a c-clamp on there. Maybe try that if that's the problem? I also did some other things that it hurts to remember. Had to get a little medieval.

>>34238442
cute little waifu

>>34238543

I've visited a couple of pawn shops and my local cabelas. Every milsurp is too expensive here in Maine.

>>34238442
nope thats my replacement from Classic Firearms, I had customer service pick me out a more reasonable condition rifle on account of my paying for the hand select. He even sent pictures and is keeping it by his desk for me.

I don't know why everyone calls them Jews, they did their best to rectify the situation.

>>34238632
Their prices, combined with how they grade their guns. They're jews.

>>34238538

Does the Hakim have a bayonet that can be attached to them? I saw some on GB but I don't know if they actually are for them.

>>34238655
290 for a easily fixable stock M39 isn't too terrible, if your looking for a better deal hit up gun shows, its fun to haggle. I got my Czech Mauser for 243 dollars.

>>34237558
MN anons, look
>>34236736

>>34238680
Yes, it's similar to the Swedish Mauser bayonet.

They are not interchangeable.

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>>34238242
I don't even like the mk3 and that makes me jealous.

>>34238253
Just curious, how can you tell its a Mountain Carbine bolt.

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>>34238481

Watch that action, otherwise I hope you don't need your thumbs

>>34238025
It was already fixed by the Finns, My 'smith said if it doesn't move its fine, if it does drop it by.

>>34237574
Fuck man, i just ordered a standard vkt w crack and im nervous although i havn't seen many examples of a terribly bad one

>>34238785
It's curved, not bent, and is hollow.

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>>34238632
Oh that's right. There is one that looks a lot like it on Gunbroker right now.
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/651493573
>>34238504
Why wait if you have the money?

>>34238836
If you aren't happy then hit up CS, squeaky wheel gets the grease.

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>>34237558
break out the angle grinder and vise grips and get that bitch off pussy

>>34238862
>http://www.gunbroker.com/item/651493573
Pretty, but mines an SK.Y ;)

>>34238836
same, but personally I don't really care about a crack unless it's fuck huge. Cracks give character imo

>>34238862
What the hell, I got one from Classic that looks alot like that one and it didnt sell for $800? how much is this shit worth?

>>34238602

Can confirm, I used a c-clamp on my yugo with some padding

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>>34238924
Potentially a lot.

Wish I had 1800 to drop. If any of you are near San Diego https://www.armslist.com/posts/6685929/san-diego-california-antiques-for-sale--tokarev-svt--40-7-62x54r--soviet-m1-garand-

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>>34238531
lulz you paid more for a hakim then I did for my FN49 top kek.

Mausers are superior in every way against Mosins, debate me.

@34239610
there's nothing wring with either, Please don't argue in this thread

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$220 for this nugget. It'd be my first nugget. Should I purchase?

>>34239646
arguing is fun
>>34239656
with how prices are $220 isn't bad at all, i'd ask $200 and he'd probably take it. If it comes with the extras its a good deal. Check for pitting and all the usual milsurp shit.

>>34239656
yes

>>34239610
WELL THEN WHY DID THEY LOSE THE WAR TO MOSINS

CHECKMATE WHERABOO

>>34238822
It's gunna move bruh, I guarantee it

>>34239170
>grey carpet
the greyness is spreading

>>34239721
you got me, mosins win. good debate.

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I bought an M44 a couple weeks ago, but I didn't share it because I was afraid of getting bullied.
Please refrain from doing so.

>>34238450
Holy shit is that an Arisaka in that group there?

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>>34238242
11$ bucks cheaper then my Enfield with 10+ stock repairs.

nice steal dude

>>34239767
nice toes loser. other then that I love shooting me a short mosin, too much fun... you'll like it.

>>34239767
Shoot it, its fun as fuck

>>34238242
>mk 111
didn't know they made so many variations

>>34239767
I'll bully you for that fuckin' toe, not your gun. Post arsenal/year toefag.

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>>34239170
Hey m8 the previous thread died before I got back to it, thanks for responding to me about the 1895

>>34239747
That's beige

>>34239794
Why must you do this to me?
>>34239794
>>34239798
I did shoot it, I expected harder recoil but it feels fine.
>>34239851
Ishvek, it says 1944 on the receiver.
I would take more pictures, but I can't keep rifles in the dorms and my home is 4 hours away.

>>34239499

They're two different guns. I've been watching the prices for a Hakim for a month or two and they always get up to the $700 area.

>>34237558
use a C clamp with electrical tape over the metal parts that pinch, compress the retention spring in front of the band, then use a brass punch with a heavy mallet. wood, rubber, or rawhide

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>>34239610
Mosin has better sights. Mosin can access the magazine easier.
>>34239656
Hard deal to beat these days. I'd go for it, if you want a Mosin.
>>34239747
>>34239882
Looks cream to me.
>>34239877
No problem boss.

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>>34239774
Yep, 1940-1942 production Type 99.

>>34239610
91/30 sights are vastly superior to German Mauser sights

>>34240063
Not him, but I actually like K98k sights, but no other Mauser sights. The K98k has a deeper notch and a narrower post, and I think it's a clear enough sight picture.

I like them better than my Mk III's sights, but my M91 Mosin or Type 99 are my favorites.

>>34240063
fair point, I never knew if they were superior but i've always had an easier time with the sights of the mosin then the kar98k sights. I replaced the kar98 sights with a mojo sight so guess I just forgot about the shit sights.

What do you guys think a sealed from the arsenal M7 bayonet is worth

>>34240163
about $20

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>>34240036
If you post a pic of it like this I can give you a better estimate of the date. PS, no Type 99 short rifle was built in 1940.

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>>34239792
Here's hoping I didn't get fleeced. Money order goes out tomorrow, should have the gun by Monday

>>34240304
Looking at the K31s wants me to get one, but then I think of getting a Mas 36. oh woe is me

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>>34240318
The Mas is a better rifle.

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>>34240284
Sure thing man, here:

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>>34240318
Porque no los dos?

>>34240375
19 years old, minimum wage can only get you so far in the gun world

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How much should I offer for this?

Says the bore is good.

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>>34240389
I feel you bro, I can only afford the cheaper guns unless I save up for an absurd amount of time.

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>>34240374
That's a 20th series by Kokura Arsenal. Their very first series they made. Yours would have been made around late 1941.

It's early enough it would have been matched with an assembly number on certain smaller parts like the extractor.

>>34240451
Only time i've spent over 500 for a gun was on my Garand, every other guns pretty darn cheap.

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>>34240495
The most I've ever spent was about $500 on a Century Arms GP 1975 about 6 years ago when I knew nothing about AK's and wanted that particular gun because of the pretty wood foregrip.

>>34240488
Thanks! I figured it was a quite early one cos it's definitely pretty good quality finishing wise and has provisions for all the goodies (mine didn't come with any though).

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1943 Tula M91/30. Took it to the range for the first time today, first time I've ever shot a milsurp rifle. My shoulder is sore but that was fun as fuck. Need to get used to the sights, though I was getting pretty consistent hits on some clay targets by the end of the session. Loving my nugget though.

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>buy Milsurp I want
>Milsurp you've been hunting for awhile becomes available as soon as you win the bid

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My wallet cant handle all my surp and the ones I want

im scared

These threads are getting busy. Nice to see new guns in here even if they are nugget tier

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>>34240529
I spent $200 on my wasr 10/63, bought it from a friend who inherited multiple. was my first gun and got me started on guns, I love it.

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>>34240550
Mosins are so damn fun to shoot. Do you have the bayonet for yours? I always stab the targets to finish off my shooting, just to make my Mosin feel better about herself.

>>34240569
Oh I love mine as well, even with the spotty reputation, I have yet to have a single problem with mine. If I had known more about AK's back then, I probably would have just bough a different AK is all.

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>>34240706
Yep, came with the bayo, oil, pouches, cleaning kit. All matching components too.

I want to stab shit with the bayo but there were lots of people at the range and didn't want to look weird/wait for cold range again. Will definitely have some fun with it next time I'm innawoods though.

I did put the bayo back on in march when I was leaving and heard a fudd audibly 'whoa' behind me.

>>34237558
Is approx $450 a good price for a Sverige Mauser (it's really fucking long if that helps you pin down which model it is)? The stock isn't cracked, the inside looked clean af, bolt turned well and the wood looked fine and it didn't reek of cosmoline/feel sticky.

How bad are the costs for 6.5x55? I'm in no position to do reloading as I have no experience with it.

>>34240403
IS THAT A FUCKING BERTHIER???!!

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>>34240766
That's the good part about living in the country with my family: we can do pretty much whatever we want.
>pic related

>>34240805
>$450 a good price for a Sverige Mauser

And to think Sweaty Ben is trying to jew off cracked shit tier M96s for 700 bucks.

450 is pretty decent for an 1896 Swedish Mauser.

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My Finn

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>>34241020

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>>34240994
Yeah, the more I watch, the more I realize that I will probably never buy from Classic again. One 1895 is all I got from them.

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>>34241041

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>>34241056
Sorry for the over share of pics. How hard would it be to fix the stock crack?

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I asked this in the last thread before it died, but I'll ask again here. Anyone have a favorite load for 8mm Mauser? I've ordered a bunch of 198 grain FMJBT bullets, and now I need to decide on the powder.

I saw one vote for IMR4064 from /k/aptbilly in the last thread. Any particular reason? I'll admit to a fair amount of ignorance about why you would choose one powder over another. I understand different powders have different burn rates and pressure curves, but how do you determine which one would work best for your rifle?

>>34241052
I only follow them because they may have reasonable milsurp again...someday. I got my Schmidt Rubin 1896/11 for 300, and that's all I've gotten from them.

I toy with the idea of rolling the dice on an M39 from them, but I already have a Finnish M1891, so motivation for another Mosin is pretty low.

>>34241134
Yeah I check whenever I see they have new stuff in stock to see if they are good deals, but otherwise no, I'm mostly turned off from them now.

>>34240994
What about $549 for a Polish Nugget Carbine (WWII). The bolt cycling was god-like, stick wasn't cracked, wasn't greasy or reek of cosmoline (I've heard of the infamous hot Mosin ooze).

>>34241181
are you located in Georgia? just a random question

>>34241208
Fl...
GO GATORS DAWGS ARE A GARBAGE CAN TEAM.

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>>34241083
>Any particular reason?
It's a powder I have for a lot of other milsurp loads. That's the biggest reason. 4895 or 3031 will work just fine too, though I'd have to look up load data for those powders. I don't shoot enough to test for peak performance, nor do I particularly care to achieve it. I just like plinking and so I develope my loads to be cheap and still reasonably accurate. Also I try to keep them on the lower ends of the pressure curve to extend brass life, again to keep costs down.

I think with the 198gr bullets you want to use a 46gr charge of 4064 will be pretty close to the WW2 military loading.

>>34240925
kek

any advice on cleaning after firing corrosive ammo? I have a spam can coming in the mail.

>>34241461
50/50 mix of water and Ballistol, then regular cleaning with regular stuff.

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Got this last week. Not milsurp, but it's from the Aepartment of Corrections so it's prisonsurp.

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>>34241405
Where are you getting your load data? The only reference book I have is the Lee "Modern Reloading" book that came with my press. It lists 44.5 grains as the "Never Exceed" load for 4064 and a 200 grain bullet. But as I understand it, SAAMI specs (which I assume they're using) for 8mm are pretty anemic compared to the military specs (though I don't know exact numbers for the WWII loading).

I currently use 3031 in my .303 loads, so I'm interested to see if I could get extra use out of it for 8mm, even though 3031 seems to be a pretty dirty powder. It's not listed in my reference book for 8mm, though.

>>34238836

Mine has a small crack in front of the magazine well, relax, you'll probably be fine.

>>34239767

I want an M44, I have a 91/59, but I want a folding bayonet.

>>34239656

If you don't give me their contact info so I can.

>>34240495

My highest was $750 for an 1873 Trapdoor. I'll probably beat it in a month or two when I get a Garand.

Local shop has a vz24 in beat up condition with almost no bluing. bore looked dirty but strong. 225 bucks. Calicuck. Very tempted.

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snagged this for 160 20 mins ago

feels good mayne

>>34241797

I'd offer them 200 and take it if they accepted personally.

What do you think about Venezuelan FN 49s?

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>>34237558
My first fun got it for my 21st birthday its a 1916 k11 . Shot 60 rounds of gp11 through it so far

>>34241745
My friends dad ODed on heroin and he knew I like "those old type of guns" and asked if I wanted to come see some of his dads guns (they needed money for his funeral, not shitty people, just middleclass americans having a tough time). He had 4 or 5 milsurps and I ended up buying his m44 for $150 and a really bubbad krag for like $290 or somthing. I think i got a great deal on the m44, it was refinished but not really bubbad up and I think it looks good. 1945 izhevs and all matching with 70%ish blueing and bore was exelent. Moral of the story? Try to od your friends dad on heroin and buy his old mil surps.

>>34242724
I feel bad for the guy, I do, but >refinished
No thanks

>>34242675
damn, thats a nice first gun.

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>>34242735
Heres only pic I have, I have the bayonet its just not on.

>>34240805
its average or slightly less than average depending on condition. i see them from $350-700, condition is everything. noob buyers dont understand this and are the reason the market is fucked right now

i wouldnt recommend 6.5 if you dont reload and plan to shoot regularly. if you only take it out once or twice a year its not a big deal, your gunshops probably wont have it in stock and you will need to order it online, theres a handful of manufacturers, its not a very popular round in america

>>34240851
Yes

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>>34241704
>Where are you getting your load data?
I have 3 different manuals (my favorite is Speer 14) and i also look online at various forums. Rarely will you find two loads the same between different sources, hence the advice of dropping a load by 10% on your first try being prudent. Buy a few reloading manuals and look around online. Then compare what you find and look for big discrepancies.
>>34242163
I think I want one.
>>34242735
Eh, it depends. Sometimes that's the only way to get something. My Gew98 is refinished. Not happy about it but it's a 1906 Mauser too.

>>34242801
Oh bubba no....

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ive got this 1cm tall M39 front blade and peep rear if anyone is interested

i was thinking $25

>go to local gun store
>these guys stock nothing but AR's, Glocks, and the typical Fudd blasters
>by some bizarre miracle there's a Yugo M48 Mauser on the rack
>they have no idea what it is, and they think it's broken because "it won't chamber anything we've got"
>manage to buy it for $200

I think I did pretty good. It's got a shiny bore, zero pitting, all the bluing is intact, and the stock has basically zero dings/dents in it. The only issue is the bolt is an M24/47 bolt (straight bolt instead of curved), but it functions correctly in terms of headspace.

I'll take pictures of it later when I'm not busy. If I can find a stripped curved bolt, I guess I'll replace it.

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Replacement stock for this old girl shows up tomorrow, can't wait for it.

>>34244278
yugo?

>>34244320
1938 K98. It was given to me by a friend. It was a WWII bring back rifle.

>>34244333
What happened to the stock?

>>34237558
I'm just starting to get into guns and I have a great love of history. What's the best milsurp to get on the lower end of the price spectrum?

>>34244347
The owner before my friend sporterized the rifle back in the 50's, however they made no modifications to the rifle, just replaced the stock with a sporter stock. I can only imagine that the OG stock is beyond long gone. Every serialized part on the rifle matches, and it has a boatload of Waffen stamps all over it.

>>34244376

>Mosin (M91/30 or M44 variations from other countries) = $250-$300
>Yugo Mauser (M24/47 or M48) = $300
>Russian/Yugo K98 = $500 or so
>Proper K98 = $600 or so
>Rubin Swiss Magic = $400 or so

Among others. There's also "milsurp" like the SKS for example which can be VERY affordable for a nice semi-auto 7.62x39. You can still get a Chinese military marked SKS for around $300.

>>34244383
Still going end up with a nice rifle there. I've got one with everything matching aside the bolt.

>>34244391
>proper k98
> $600

Not habnening too many wehraboos

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>>34244406
Pic related is the sporter stock that the gun arrived to me with. It has two massive cracks running fully through the sides of the magazine well. I was given the rifle totally for free, and the only cost I have in it is the new stock that I ordered, which was about $275 with shipping.

>>34244419

Yeah, the prices are definitely going up. I mean, unless you're a diehard wehraboo, the Yugo Mausers are 99% identical and considerably cheaper.

>>34244427
Damn that's pretty pricey for a stock. Not a rc right?

>>34244427

>$275 for a stock

Holy shit.

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>>34241804
When I got my first Mosin in 2012 I remember buying a crate and getting it shipped to my house for like $130. I thought that the UPS guy was gonna have a stroke carrying it to my house. Those were the days.

>>34244391
What about pistols?

>>34244544
For all practical purposes the only pistols you can get for much under a grand is slav shit and webleys

>>34244493
>>34244512
http://www.stewartsmilitaryantiques.com/k98-mauser-stocks-accessories-german-wwii-laminate-k98-mauser-stock-waa26-flat-butt-plate-60218.41319.24.military-antiques


I bought this stock but with a cupped buttplate and in pristine condition. This rifle is one that is going to be with me until I die, so I wanted to make it something for me to truly enjoy. To clarify, the stock was $245, and the shipping was $30.

>>34244569
Wew.

That's a lot of money for a foreign marked stock. I've seen them at guns shows for like $250 ish for originals. Hope you didn't rush into it or you got a lot of money

>>34244569

>tfw bought a Yugo M48 stock with handguard and all the metal for $30 here a week or so ago

Granted it's a Yugo and not a German K98, but there's a BIG difference between $30 and $275.

>>34244645
I did some digging before I purchased. The only money that I have in the rifle right now is the stock. I'm not swimming in cash but I'm not a poorfag either. I want a dependable, great shooting rifle. The stock I ordered was a German production, Norwegian capture stock with all numbers on the stock matching. The one I linked on their site is considerably worse than the one I am getting. I live in an area where none of my local shops have spare parts, or stocks for surplus guns, and the closest gun show is 4+ hours away. It was pricey, but I'll have a rifle that is worth more than what I have in it all said and done.

>>34244695
Fair enough. Probably worth close to 800 bucks

>>34244661
Samefag as >>34244569
My dad bought a Yugo about a month ago for $200 bucks, and he is ecstatic with his purchase. Between him and I we've owned about 20 surplus guns over the years.

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>>34244196
You got a great deal anon, M48s go for about #350 and above now. for $200 that's a complete steal.

>>34241495
Alternatively you can just use boiling water to clean the barrel and other parts, but what the other anon said is also true.

>>34245019
>>34241461

I personally use Windex with ammonia in it at the range, then boiling water at home (with usual cleaning after). The Windex is probably just bullshit, but my dad taught me it as a kid, so it's stuck as a habit.

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Went to get a copy of my ffl for an GB win and my local store has a great looking longbranch No4 for $399 I'm gonna try and talk them out of it Thursday

I found a Mexican Mauser 93 for what seems to be a reasonable price.
How should I approach the situation?

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>>34245920
>I found a Mexican Mauser 93 for what seems to be a reasonable price.
>How should I approach the situation?
You're sure it's a Mexican Model 1893/95? They're super-rare compared to the later M1902 and M1910. What's the condition of the rifle, and what's the price?

>>34245945
>Mexican Mauser model 93 in 7mm Mauser caliber. This is a full length rifle, dated 1931. The rifle itself shows hard use. It has a matching bolt.
Is their description, they're asking 249 for it.

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>>34244963

>>34246017
This is a blue board, you know.

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>>34245969
>Mexican Mauser model 93 in 7mm Mauser caliber. This is a full length rifle, dated 1931.
Mexican Mausers being made in 1931 were M98-pattern Model 1910s. If it's an M93 dated 1931 it's probably Spanish. If the crest says "Fabrica de Armas Oviedo" with a crown it's Spanish.

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>>34246089
This is image they used, they didn't show a crest.

>>34246117
That's a Mexican Model 1910. What do they want for it?

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>>34246017

>>34244196

Gun show nearby was like that, except for a single Mosin and an SVT. I ALMOST made an offer on the SVT.

>>34244376

In addition to the other post, there's a fair amount of off-brand Mausers like Turkish Mausers that you can get for less, around $200-300.

You can also pick up a T53, which is a Chinese M44 Mosin, for less than $300 pretty easily if you look around.

>>34244544

You can get a Nagant revolver for $325 from rguns still, Yugo Tokarevs are still around at reasonablish prices. Pistols generally cost more though because they didn't make as many of them, generally only officers, rear-line troops and commandos got them.

>>34245866

Nice. That's how I got my Lithgow 1941.

>>34246127

He said they were asking $249.

>>34246127
249.
I don't know what they charge for shipping.

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>>34237558
>found an M95 on gunbroker and decided to christen my C&R license with it
>fucking fudds and postal money order
>send it and go on with my day
>get home
>look closer at the stamps
>it was a set my dad bought me becasue it was civil war related
>sent a money order with a massive stamp of the scene of the surrender at Appomattox courthouse to Missouri
P-please tell me he's not going to piss on my rifle.

>>34246224
A money order is the most secure way to make payment other than a credit card

>>34244391
>Implying this is a 2014 roleplaying thread

>>34246332

Don't crush my dreams, anon. I'm still collecting things, and I can't bear the thought of $1,000+ milsurp rifles being the norm.

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>>34246147
>He said they were asking $249.
I 'derped.

>>34246196
>249.
Do eet.

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>>34246417
You got it boss.
I may be a poorfag, but fuck it's father's day and my dad always told me about my great grandfather's mauser rifle.
Should I ask to see more pics, what's my next course of action?

>>34239499
How much did you get yours for and when? The stock on yours looks nicer than mine tho.

>>34239499
His Hakim wasn't built by Century tho.

>>34246454
>Should I ask to see more pics,
Always. Find out what parts are matching, and what the internal condition is.
>what's my next course of action?
If you decide to purchase it, you contact the seller and arrange a form of payment. Credit Card works best and is the most secure on your end. Then you find a Federal Firearms Licensee near you willing to do the transfer, and have them send the seller (via e-mail, fax, or snail mail) a signed copy of their FFL. They will be the shipping address for the seller, and you'll be the billing address. Make sure to have the seller send you and the FFL the shipping information so you can track the rifle en route. Once the rifle arrives at your FFL you will go there, complete ATF Form 4473, pay a fee to the FFL for using their services (shop around a bit to see what various people charge), and then you take possession of the rifle.

>>34246901
Thanks for the help, I appreciate it.

>>34246454

To add to

>>34246901

The lowest I've seen FFL service going for is $20, it goes up to retarded highs. If your closest place goes for $30 or under then call it good.

>>34247017
I know a place that does it for 20.
But shit, I don't have a credit card, nor am I near the place.
I've got 4 days 'till I get back home.
And I don't know what more to ask, other than the crest and bore, is there anything else I should be looking for?

>>34247031
How many parts are matching, and always ask about stock condition. Worst thing is to get a rifle in that looked fine them BAM giant crack

Hey guys, I've got a friend looking to sell me a Carcano in 6.5 for $150. I'm not concerned about the price, he needs the money, but is it a good rifle? Anything I should look out for? The only surplus I have is a mosin so far.

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>>34247247
>but is it a good rifle?
It's OK, not great.
>Anything I should look out for?
Matching serial numbers, date/factory of manufacture, what model it is, if it's been refinished.

>>34247247

Carcanos are probably the best rifle that Italy could produce at the time. Which means they're second-class at best from everything I've heard about them. I don't have my own, yet, but I haven't seen anyone claim they are great guns.

Good enough to kill JFK though.

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>>34247247
They're fun rifles and that's a pretty good price if it isn't sporterized. But they require clips and ammo is difficult to come by and expensive when you do.

>>34247294
>>34247297
>>34247300
Gotcha, thanks guys. I'm doing it more to help him out, but I just love long guns.

>>34247328

I mean, I'm >>34247297 but I'm still gonna buy at least one, and probably more, of them, and if you decide not to, then let me know and I'll take it for that much unless it's totally chopped up.

>>34238025
Can you explain what's wrong with the stock? Viewing it on my phone, I don't see any visible cracks

>>34238836
I got an excellent cracked. You'll be fine. Mine has a crack near the butt of the stock but it's not bad at all. Took me a couple days to even notice it

Sweaty ben has more k98s

>>34247617

Only a handful of very expensive ones. They'll sell out in 5 minutes or less.

>>34247617
Why do people keep falling for the jew?

>>34247102
Hello, I am contacting you to ask about the >Mauser 93 you are selling.
>I’d like to know the condition of the bore and stock, if there are any cracks in it.
>Also, could you tell me how many parts are matching?
How's that?
Not to autsitic, is it?

>>34247820

That's not autistic, posting it here is autistic. :P

>>34247884
I'm sorry, I've just never done this before and don't want to fuck anything up.
Buying online, I mean.

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>>34247820
That's fine

>>34247300
>ammo is expensive and hard to come buy
>Cabelas stocks 6.5 Carcano at ~.80 cpr
Don't know if PPU is the proper diameter though

>>34247675
Because as it stands Century realized they have warehouses of guns, Classic will pay whatever they ask, sell that and then come back for more.

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>>34248264
My TS was .266" when I slugged the bore. factory PPU was .262"and LBC936 military ball was .264. because it was a pre ww1 1891 it's been sleeved and re-bored so that's why it may be over sized. my 6.5 veterlli slugged at the proper .264"

>>34246224
kek

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>>34248264
Really? That cheap? I'll be damned.

I'd be willing to bet that the bore diameter is correct. They have properly sized bullets for both their 8mm Lebel and 8x56.

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anyone have one of these? any experience with them? are they good shooters?

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>sent in my C&R form two months ago
>still nothing
How long does it take normally? I'm getting anywhere from a month to 80 days

>>34248658
is that an AK-47 assault rifle?

>>34248658
of course nobody has one of those. they are fucking kryptonite

Is there anyone making Springfield 1903s from parts anymore?
Or am I stuck paying $1,200+ for one?

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>>34247504
He referring to this pic from another thread. Also he's a dipshit because the stock is factory repaired, note the pegs at the end of each line in the crack

>>34240994
MFW I got nun 1899 carl Gustav for 250, feels good man.

>>34240403
I forgot to mention the guy selling this is asking $375. Includes 100 pieces of brass, reloading dies, and four five-shot clips.

Is that a good deal?

>>34240994
>Sweaty Ben
Who?

>>34249651

Classic Firearms. Main guy is Ben, he's a husky sort who seems to have some moderate breathing troubles when he does videos for them.

>>34248266

Makes you wonder why Century doesn't sell them themselves.

>>34249670
Ok thanks

>>34249670
Not worth their time with NFA right now banning mailing direct. That and a contract of a one time shipment of a couple hundred thousand is way more sensible than dealing with thousands of FFLs.

>Classic charges 2x as Samco was for the EXACT same guns

>>34250115

Which is probably why Samco went under.

>>34250278
They went under because they had a terrible website that was also impossible to find. They were also the importer so they sold at more or less wholesale prices to everyone

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Found a bayonet.

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Waiting for muh new Enfield is gonna be awful: bump

>>34250597
I'm dealing with a background check delay, I know that feel.

>>34249542

Is it an M1892 carbine or the M16? Is it good for N balle ammo? Matching?

Usually Berthier carbines can be had for about $200-$300 depending. The ammo is hard as fuck to find and expensive when you do, so it coming with brass and dies are worth it if you reload. The clips are also about $5 each.

I would say if it is a matching gun 1892 carbine its a decent deal. Not a steal though.

Classic has Romanian 8mm Mauser for $10 a box.

>>34250840

>Not having a C&R

Do you even surp bro?

>>34251015
I keep thinking my most recent purchase is always gonna be the last for a while.

>>34251015
How long does it take?

>>34251173

It took me maybe a month from mailing it out to getting my license. Probably closer to 2-3 weeks actually.

$30 for three years and I get milsurps shipped to my door. I got a fuckin pallet of Mosins delivered. The money you save in FFL transfer fees is worth it alone.

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>>34250597
buy a pointy stick, they're great for pointing at things.
>>34251173
took me 5 weeks mid last year.

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>>34251270
>Took me five weeks
Fugg I'm just waiting for the seller to get my money/ship it

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Anybody have any experience with this round? .60c/round sounds pretty reasonable.

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>>34251493
don't fire and let it sit in the action, extract it immediately or else it sticks real bad.

>>34251493
If I recall, those aren't in spec for a lot of chambers. A lot of people can't get their rifles into battery using that stuff.

>>34251493
read nothing but bad reviews, would avoid that to be honest

>>34250932
>The clips are also about $5 each.
Fucking where? The cheapest ice seen is 25 a piece for the 3rnd reproductions.

I got a reply from the store that's selling the Mexican Mauser.
>Hello anon, thanks for inquiring on this Mexican 93. The gun in itself shows hard military use that can be seen in the dents and various other imperfections in the stock. This rifle has a matching bolt and receiver. It also does have what appears to be a fully matching stock. The rifling on this gun shows to be good and we can confirm that the rifle does indeed work as we have test fired it previously. The condition of the bore shows to be fair which can be accredited to it's military use.
What do you guys think?

>>34251493
I've had decent luck with that ammo in my M48, had 1 or 2 cases that required some work to get the bolt open, otherwise it works just fine for me.

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>>34254319
I think that it's a killer deal for one that is all matching. Granted, I don't collect Mexican rifles, but I do know they aren't exactly common to find.

>>34254319
>>34254499
And really, if it hasn't been messed with, any Mauser for $250 sounds like a great deal.

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put a Beretta 1934 on layaway at my LGS, may be the cutest gun I've ever seen

>>34254499
>>34254557
Thanks for all the help you've been giving me.
Now I have another issue, the FFL.
I am far from home and the FFL, so I can't walk in there and talk to them about the transaction.
Where do I go from here.
>>34254625
Very cute.

>the you hide all your milsurp at your parents house because your roommate keeps turning the a/c off and you're afraid the humidity will cause rust
Feels bad, man

>>34254875
Great, now you've giving me something to be paranoid about.

>>34254681
Do you have a C&R?

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>>34254319
A matching Mexican M1910 is a great deal at $249, even assuming another $50-75 for shipping/FFL fee.

>>34254681
>I am far from home and the FFL, so I can't walk in there and talk to them about the transaction.
>Where do I go from here.
Call them on the phone, or find a closer FFL.

>>34254929
No.
>>34254935
I guess I could try calling them, I'm going back home in two days.
What should I say?

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>>34254875
>tfw live in a state that literally sucks the moisture out of everything
sometimes, the desert ain't so bad

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>>34254951
>What should I say
"Hey do you guys do transfers?"

Its not that hard boss.

>>34255392
Don't bully autistic people

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Big Ben has no4 mk1s starting tomorrow. He's asking $649.99

>>34255546
I'm not autistic!
Not that I know of.

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>>34244278
>>34244427
Stock came in

>>34255547
absolutely ridiculous.

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>>34255706
I know right! It's like $100 over the going rate for better looking guns. I hope to god these samco leftovers are gone soon and prices start falling back to normal

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>>34255547
I wonder if he's found the M24/47 I returned to him (and that he personally signed for) back in 2012.

>>34254681

Call them, ask them to send you or the retailer a copy of their paperwork, they will call you when the rifle gets to them.

>>34255791

>milsurp
>Prices going down

Oh you sweet summer child.

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>>34255876
I'm talking about normal Century Arms prices, not "Century trying to recoup loses on old samco stock" prices

>>34256054
>loses
They paid like $1.5 million for all of it; pretty sure they've already made their money back if folks like Classic have to charge these prices in order to make a profit.

>LGS has an ex PU for 225 and a mas36 for 425
My wallet is screaming Nooooooo

>>34255547
Jesus christ. Idiots will pay that also.

>>34256276
Oh and they had a Non sporterized Ross rifle

Paging Kap. Found a mas36 but it had front sight ears instead of a hood protecting it. What's with that?

>>34256276

Damn. I'd love to get a MAS 36 for something like that.

>>34256472
Yeah I did some more research and I think it's pre armistice. But it's really best up, not sure it's worth that much.

>>34256494
*beat up, thanks phone

>>34256494

I'm honestly not looking for museum pieces personally. I'd rather have a gun with a fair amount of wear as long as it's functional and in one piece.

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SWEATY BEN BTFO

>>34256648
IAN WITH THE BANTZ

>>34256648
>>34256648
what about the $1,500 russian capture 'german authentic' k98s

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>>34256648
>HOW WILL BIG BEN EVER RECOVER?
BTFO

>>34256735
are you serious?

Can you re-use mineral spirits or is it one and done? Wondering if I should bother saving it after cleaning my gunz.

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>>34256648
He truly speaks the truth.

>>34251493
I've used it in my Hakim. Nothing but issues, avoid it. Get PPU and reload.

>>34250932
It's a M16

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>>34256304
How much and what is the shop name/phone number?
>>34256350
Almost certainly a pre-armistice rifle. Those are worth 600+ usually.

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>>34237558
Prototype side folding bayonet 91/30s for sale in Canuckistan. How much do you think these are worth?

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>>34257809
Last one of those I saw sold for around 7000 and that's in America. Hard to judge the market for prototypes though.

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>>34257809
Those look really neat.

Too bad i'll never own one.

>>34257803
Frig off kap the rifle is mine

>>34257803
Actually they won't put a price on the Ross they are going to put it on gunbroker.

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>>34258059
Not if I have anything to say about it.

>>34257803
>>34258059
>>34258068
an equal fighting ground ay?

May the man with the biggest wallet and least amount of kids to feed win

I want to buy a hakim rifle, any of you anons know what a good price is for one?

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Went to do the paperwork for the cracked stock finn from classic today. Looks really good in my opinion. Some repairs, but no active cracks that I could see. Didn't get any pics, but here's this. Suffer with me, lads. This is what it's like living in CA. And this is the cheapest place near me. AND I can't even pick it up for 10 days

>>34258639
kek

I thought il had shit gun laws but that is absurd

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>>34258507
>May the man with the biggest wallet and least amount of kids to feed win
Is it a Mk3 or Mk2? Because I only have interest in the former.

Also no kids and my wife works AND wants to get me a anniversary gift.

>>34258657
I might just try to get a C&R license

>>34258734
you should its like $30 and you wont have to wait or get raped by those stupid CA laws

>>34258702
Pretty sure it's a Mk3

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>>34258794
Does the magazine protrude or is it flush with the stock?

>>34258840
portrude my magazine onii-sama

>>34256956
did you miss the video or email update m8? hes got "a very rare offering" of "perfect condition authentic german k98s with the acrylic writing and war eagles and swastikas all showing perfectly"

>>34257809
a lot in america, who knows about canada since almsot nobody can own guns there, you have a smaller population in general let alone people who buy guns, old guns, and you have no bans on russian imports

>>34258639
>pics
wtf man what part of CA? im in norcal and there are numerous kitchen table FFLs and shops who do internet tranfers for 30-50 dollars +tax

go on calguns and find a better FFL, one whos not a fudd shop

>>34258936
I didnt watch the video.

>matching numbers
>russian captures

are these fucking mitchells or something? what kind of horse shit is sweaty ben trying to pull here

fug lads, SKSs soon to be totally illegal in CA with this latest shooting?
>>34258972
LA county, family. They're not so much a fudd shop really and kitchen table FFLs I think probably don't exist around here, but I guess I can check out calguns.

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The gang's all here

>>34240488
/k/ never fails to scare and amaze me with the encyclopaedic knowledge of anything surp

>>34259060
I think it's just that one guy who literally knows everything about Arisakas

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>>34259069
There are a few here actually.
>>34258863
Oh yeah, that's my anniversary gift. Helps that she wants a Ross too.

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>>34259054
>no M1917

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arisaka guy do me next i found a Type 99 at a surp store in PA

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>>34259132
mum still intact, someone already bought it I'm just curious

>>34259132
that's a very pretty Type 99

>>34259106
A Type 30? Damn that's nice, aren't those pretty rare?

>>34258840
It sticks out

>gook guns

git out

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>>34259166
They're fairly uncommon but I wouldn't say rare.

Now a Type 30 carbine...

I demand a new thread

>>34259237
It's not hard to make one

>>34259219
damn that is freaking cool, you have a sweet collection

>>34259358
B-but I don't have any good milsurp pics

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>>34259054
Nice collection.

>>34259771
Go take some then bud, they'll probably turn out fine

>>34259791
Or they'll be shit but we won't care.
>>34259705
Thanks, I try. Don't have 1/4 of what I want though

>>34259821
>Or they'll be shit, but we won't care
See, they'll be fine

>>34259132
that store looks awesome as fuck, never seen anything like that

>>34259132
does anyone know the name of this store

i think he mentioned it's in Gettysburg before. I don't have the cash to spend currently, but I'm not far away and would like to see some cool milsurp in person

>>34259132
>>34259144
I can't help you out. You didn't post a picture of where the serial number is so I can't tell you the series or manufacturer of the rifle.
Also, moving onto the new thread now.

>>34258959
he's talkin about 91/30's not m44's senpai

>>34260036
I believe it's The Horse Soldier.

>>34260231
Thanks! I'll stop by sometime

>>34256648
TRUTH AND THE LIGHT