AR Thread - /arg/ - AR General - ayarrfifteen

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>>34061175
>>34061140
Burt....

https://www.amazon.com/Cactus-Cooler-Orange-Pineapple-Soda/dp/B002GUN5RW

Also

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00478QMK8/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1495695840&sr=8-1&keywords=faygo+variety

>>34061175
http://www.food.com/recipe/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-pies-filled-with-vanilla-puddin-137846

And Crystal Pepsi is back.

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>>34061175
In

>>34061124
KAC 600m rear and mbus pro front. Good conbo.

>>34061133
Rip

Everyone is dead

>>34061175
that handguard reminds me of the lr300

>see guy selling complete sopmod upper with kac ras, handle, and bcg for 585 shipped
>now wants 450 for same upper with no bcg, ras, or handle
wtf man

Would it be retarded to stick a bipod onto an M4gery?

>>34061477
yes, get a gripod

>>34061482
Eh I don't really want a vertical foregrip. I don't like them. I just want some extra stability off a rest while maintaining the normal grip.

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good morning

>>34061562
well think of it as a lever or fulcrum. you'll get more stability the further out it is, which on an m4gery is not very far. but you could do it

>>34061906
Do they work alright stuck on a magpul foregrip? A grippod and a freefloat foregrip would run about half what I paid for the entire rifle.

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best ~$200 mlok rail?

going on a m&p15, so 15"

>>34062004
idk midwest, fortis, alg etc.
I'd reccomend not getting 15"

>>34062004
seekins
http://www.seekinsprecision.com/parts-and-accessories/handguards/noxs-mlok-rail-1-1.html
http://www.seekinsprecision.com/parts-and-accessories/handguards/mcsr-rail.html

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>>34061175

>>34062018
>not getting 15"
why not?

>>34062104
if I were you I would spend an extra $50 and get a geissele

>>34062104
it's just extra bulk/weight at the end of the gun, often costs more, and doesn't offer any benefit

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Well I woke up this morning. Let's do this shit.

>>34062159
>doesn't offer any benefit
C CLAMP AND AESTHETICS

>>34062159
This. And on a minor, subjective note, not only do they make the gun feel more front-heavy than it needs to be, 15" handguards also make the gun look disproportionately long in the front. Poor aesthetic choice. If you must have a 16" barrel, a 13" rail will look the best IMO. The 13" rail also allows for a near-flush fit suppressor if you go the route of a 14.5" or 13.7" barrel later.

>>34062258
What if you hold the rifle normally that far out?

>>34062265
Well, then you're a gorilla.

>>34061175

>can afford a can
>PPX

>>34062278
That is true.

>>34062258
>he likes exposed barrel on non clones
sad!

>>34062265
don't listen to these bb arms dyelfags

>>34062288
>don't listen to these bb arms dyelfags
this, its like a difference of a couple oz or less
even taking into fact leverage its a non issue considering the barrel weight

>>34062131
I second this, just Geissele

> Buy once, cry once....

>>34062325
mk8, $225
https://geissele.com/super-modular-rail-mk8-m-lok.html

you want your rifle to look gucci don't you?

>>34062230
>C CLAMP
only if you're mega tall and have the stock abnormally short >>34062265

>>34062265
T.bonobo

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AESTHETICS are the most important thing, everything else is irrelevant.

>>34062356
I the sharpie on the H-1

>>34062288
Don't listen to this safe queen. Ounces mean pounds. The human shoulder/neck anatomy is not laid out to hold weight far past the center of gravity for extended periods.

>>34062340
I'm not mega tall but my stock is always in the shortest position. It's nice to have the extra room for the front sight to sit unobstructed.

>>34062376
get good babby arms

>>34062376
>Ounces mean pounds.
ya can't even meme right. opinion discarded.

>>34062382
>It's nice to have the extra room for the front sight to sit unobstructed
what do you mean?

>>34062396
If the handguard is short that means I have to put my hand even closer to the reciever so I don't block/touch the front sight.

With a 15" rail I can have the front sight out and enough room to clamp muh hand.

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>dynamic costa fags?
>on my /k/?

>>34062421
>I don't block/touch the front sight
why are you spooped of touching the front sight?

>>34062431
chris costa is cool

So I just got http://androcorpind.com/aci-15-556-nato-16-rifle-intrepid/ on sale and was thinking about putting an eotech 518 and a different buttstock on it and probably an angled foregrip.

Am I doing good?

>>34062331
Just a heads up, they're going on 20% off sale this weekend, too

>>34062437
Not spooped I just want everything to have enough room. The switch is up top too.

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>>34062441

>>34062442
post AR pistol

>>34062331
>>34062441
>>34062445
>everyone has a geissele rail
>anons buying blems constantly
>always on sale
>gucci
Nah

>>34062463
no. that's on my 16"

>>34062482
post that too

>>34062482
You never post your ARs. I thought maybe you lost them betting on the Marlins to win the WS last year.

>>34062491
**mariners sry

It's too early to function properly

>>34062474
>its popular so its not good

>>34062474
y u mad tho

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>>34062474
urx4, mfr xs and nsr are underserved gucci

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>>34062484
I've posted it before

>>34062491
I'm not that dumb

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these guns are trash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVrLWe_mQZg

>>34062507
good = gucci
That's not how this works

>>34062509
Not mad at all. Geissele makes a damn fine rail, but it's basic bitch tier.

>>34062522
solid post! have some leddit gold

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>>34062536
why did my gun keep jamming in the mud senpai?

>>34062532
hipster

>>34062541
>buys Jetta
>"Look at my luxury sedan"

>>34062540
bc the mentally ill cant build ARs well

>>34062520
>urx4, mfr xs and nsr are underrated gucci
ftfy

The only undeserved gucci is the RIS II

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>>34062550
it might tingle ur almonds if you considered the platform

>>34062540
>>34062550
something something this.

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>>34062555
>>34062522

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>>34062560
>>34062570

>>34062555
reading is hard

>>34062580
I'm sorry you didn't get enough attention as a child

>>34062580
dunk it in a vat of kerosene, it'll be fine

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>>34062605
yeah well damage is done

>>34062608
actually still works 100% plastic melted over the safety but those are for pussies anyway

>>34062520
>urx4
keymod, not gucci
>mfr xs
gucci, essentially the same thing as the geissele mk8 but lighter, pricier too
>nsr
keymod but also some mlok, not gucci but fits AR10 builds tho

>>34062555
>RIS II
not gucci because its not 2007, quad rails suck

>>34062624
both the urx and nsr are available in mlok

>>34062618
One day you'll add to the statistics

>>34062628
oh yeah, then they're gucci

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>>34062645
school shootings, domestic terrorists, motorcycle deaths, or aids deaths?

>>34062658
>motorcycle deaths
what bike do you have?

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>>34062647
urx4 is top aesthetic too, just a pain if you want to pin your gas block

>>34062658
suicide

>>34062672
Why is every URX so aesthetic? KAC needs to slow down and let other companies catch up.

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>>34062474
holy shit what a faggot.

i bet you sit in hipster coffee shops and talk about how you liked bands before they were main stream.

kys

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>>34062667
the shitty jap kind
>>34062674
so motorcycle?

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>>34062686
reed knight is blessed by the /k/ube

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>>34062689
nice
I have a DRZ too

>>34062688
When more than half of the Geissele rail owners bought their rails on sale or blem and slap them on Anderson, PSA, Spikes and M&P lowers... It ain't gucci

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>>34062711
so what do you have then?

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>>34062707
nice i really like that color scheme whats your drz setup?

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>>34062724
>geissele owners getting defensive

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>>34062711
anon i think your mom was the lady who almost hit me this morning.

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>>34062750
i've owned a lot of different rails

>>34062756
>gucci now means standard tier shit that everyone owns
Giessele is now the corolla of rails. How did the meaning of gucci fall so low?

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>>34062761
>getting your guns wet
i bet you shoot them too you fucking degenerate

>>34062742
2001 DRZ400e converted to street legal with a recent motor rebuild and all the little power adder memes
It's almost too good for the cost

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>>34062771
>How did the meaning of gucci fall so low?
since it didn't really mean anything in the first place
you know it was dr8c0 that really started this shit

>>34062782
only a little

>>34062784
dr8co>>>>>qb

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>>34062784
where'd you find that rare A2grip

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>>34062787

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>>34062787
ok

>>34062790
he posted it in /gq/

>>34062771
At least appreciate the OC you hipster.

>>34062798
dr8c0>>>>>fuzzy>>qb

http://palmettostatearmory.com/ptac-16-mid-length-5-56mm-1-7-upper-without-bcg-or-charging-handle.html
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-5-56-premium-hpt-mpi-full-auto-bolt-carrier-group-no-logo-39339.html
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ar15-m16-7075-t6-forged-mil-spec-charging-handle-24080.html
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ar-15-complete-blem-lower-classic-edition-no-magazine.html

thoughts?

>>34062841
I think you should buy a ruger.

>>34062841
>PTAC
ever

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>>34062816
you're trying a little too hard today

>>34062850
w-why

>>34062852
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-mid-length-5-56-nato-1-8-nitride-freedom-upper-without-bcg-or-charging-handle-516445740.html

>>34062854
Okay MSD2.0

>>34062864
No, spend more and at least buy one with a FN barrel

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>>34062866
how dare you
he was nothing before me

>>34062555
>>34062624
gucci quad rails will be the only rails that transcend time and be eternally aesthetic.

>>34062877
You're the one who copied off of his block II with your bastardized BCM recce

>>34062890
Do you remember Giddy admitting how disappointed he was when he got his RIS II?

The KAC FF RAS will be the ultimate Gucci, followed by the LaRue rails. The only thing the RIS II excels at is allowing you to mount a M203.

>>34062864
they are decent starter rifles, don't pay over $600 for a cerakoted one and your good.

Plus strait out of the box it ran great.

don't believe the "muh proprietary" meme.

>>34062899
>don't believe the "muh proprietary" meme.
it's not a meme

>>34062906
Name one component that can't be changed out or doesn't fit non-ruger parts.

>>34062895
>Do you remember Giddy admitting how disappointed he was when he got his RIS II?
no
>The only thing the RIS II excels at is allowing you to mount a M203
it feels better than most quad rails because the bottom rail is so close to the barrel and it's one of the toughest rails in the world

>>34062895
>Giddy
what's his problem with it?

I have no complaints with mine and I don't find the non-DD substitutes as appealing

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>>34062895
>KAC FF RAS will be the ultimate Gucci
>ultimate gucci
>still produced for civilian market

>>34062930
>KAC FF RAS
>still produced for civilian market
k

>>34062935
it is tho, operation parts just had them in stock

>>34062935
I bought one like last month

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Good morning /arg/, do you have a chance to talk about our lord and savior keymod? He has risen!

>>34062964
I just realized that your trip contains PIZZA

>>34062981
>I just realized that your trip contains PIZZA
hello newfag :^

>>34062958
>>34062964
They're discontinued though

>>34062986
>reading the tripcodes
Autismo

>>34062981
hello newfag

>>34062992
but that's wrong

>>34062993
>he doesn't memorize trips
hah l-loser

>>34062981
foot pizza to be exact

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can you guys give me a quick rundown on short stroke piston vs carbon regurgitation?

thanks

>>34063000
Piston is good for super short (sub 11") or suppressor usage
Use DI for everything else

The end

>>34062996
>but that's wrong
Nope, most of them are discontinued. If I were to get one, it'd be the carbine version because FSP is top tier aesthetics

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>>34062992
they arent m8. kac does a few runs a year for civvies

>>34062993
>he doesnt read tripcodes
keep that shit to yourself

>>34062521
this is the only time i've seen a killflash that isn't aesthetic
yours looks like it might be sagging or something

>>34063005
>Piston is good for super short (sub 11")
why do all the mk18s in the world use DI then?

>>34063016
Because DD does all of the work with fucking the gas port.

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>>34063000
Both work

dear santa
please bring me one of these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMvvTIKZsZ4
I would also like a Magpul UBR stock in black, a BCM Gunfighter mod0 grip and a 15" NSR mlok rail to put onto it

lots of love
nonny

>>34063028
>all of the work with fucking the gas port.
you give it a negative connotation. it's not like the resulting function is deeply faulted in any way, is it?

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Where are all the good deals?

>>34063077
psa has some nice lower deals atm
http://palmettostatearmory.com/ar-15-05/lowers/complete-lowers.html

>>34063072
No, DI is fine unless you are using a suppressor

>>34063086
but that's wrong you fucking retard

Why does psa still use the triangle handguard holder when the circle one is way better?

>>34062981

>Lord and savior keymod

Mlok master race

Kek desu

>>34063094
>increased back pressure
>increased gas in face
>increased shit in receiver
>increased bolt velocity
dr8c0 >>>> qb
>>34063107
Return to hell you heathen !

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>>34063111
no retard
it literally doesn't matter what fucking system you use
all of that applies

the only difference is that piston systems usually have some different gas block settings

>>34063007
You're stupid

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>>34063111
>increased everything
>"the operating system will change the mechanical event of spent gasses coming back into the receiver."

Even roller lock gets defeated by this, suppression is dirty business no matter what gun or gas system is behind the can.

Pls go keymod somewhere else.

>>34063128
>it literally doesn't matter
>the only difference is that piston systems usually have some different gas block settings
(you)
>>34063149
pls go be grumpy somewhere else
>Grumpy level: 9004

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>>34063157
they make adjustable blocks for di, you punce

why do you keep coming back here when you get BTFO on the regular
why not stay in the /gq/ safe space

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vampire now

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>>34063179
so did you figure out how bad the cucked peq's illuminator is

>>34063173
>they make adjustable blocks for di, you punce
Yes and ? Piston shifts a good amount of the blowback up forward of your face and operating mechanisms. DI will have more shit and pressure back in the operating mechanism unless that adjustable gasblock is set in the off position. I keep forgetting people use the hk416 because piston sucks, amirite????

Post some more guns with unknown round counts and to "prove" your point. Ill wait.

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>>34063179
Aw ye

>>34063186
its actually somewhat decent indoors with the diffuser on

anything past ~15 feet its useless

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>>34063193
dude gave me extra tape switches and tailcaps what a nice guy

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>>34063189
>why does da seaslz use 416s huh!?
literally CG tier at this point

keep proving you're retarded

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>>34063203
Not an argument

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>>34063208
we've already made all the arguments needed
you've just beat your fists and said nuh uh, while proving you have literally no clue how suppressor blowback works

>>34063200
such a good feel

>>34063203
I wonder what the round count on that lower is

>>34063224
> DI will have more shit and pressure back in the operating mechanism unless that adjustable gasblock is set in the off position
Refute this

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>>34063200
I need that light. Is sex.

>>34063203
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-mid-length-standard-hand-guard.html
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ar-15-complete-blem-lower-classic-edition-no-magazine.html
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-5-56-premium-hpt-mpi-full-auto-bolt-carrier-group-no-logo-39339.html
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ar15-m16-7075-t6-forged-mil-spec-charging-handle-24080.html
https://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-16-Mid-Length-Upper-Receiver-Group-p/bcm-urg-mid-16.htm

hmmmm
good starter?

>>34063257
>sink money into BCM Upper
>buy cheap bolt

>>34063263
b-but I was told that the bcm bolts and the premium psa bolts are basically the same thing

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>>34063257
Get a BCM bcg

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>>34063277
>BCM and PSA
>its the same

>>34063277
>basically the same thing
no, not really
if you can afford it at all, go with the BCM

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swap pic related with my 13" SMR Mk 2 or nah?

The pictured 15" Mk8 would go on my 18" SPR.

>>34063288
>>34063289
Milspec Carpenter No. 158® steel bolt
Shot Peened Bolt
High pressure tested (HPT)
Mag particle inspected (MPI)
Chrome Lined Carrier (AUTO)
Chrome Lined Gas Key
Gas Key Hardened to USGI Specifications
Gas Key Grade 8 Hardened Fasteners
Gas Key Staked Per Mil-Spec
Tool Steel Extractor
Extractor Spring
Extractor O-ring Insert

Milspec Carpenter No. 158® steel
HPT Bolt (High Pressure Tested/ Proof)
MPI Bolt (Magnetic Particle Inspected)
Shot Peened Bolt
Chrome Lined Carrier (AUTO)
Chrome Lined Gas Key
Gas Key Hardened to USGI Specifications
Grade 8 Hardened Fasteners
Key Staked Per Mil-Spec
Tool Steel Extractor
BCM Extractor Spring
Black Extractor Insert
Mil-Spec Crane O-Ring

only difference is the O-ring
but I will defer to your judgement

>>34063304
I wouldn't think the PSA would be MPI HPT and chrome lined
I'd still go with the BCM though just to be safer

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>>34063239
>all of the spent gas and debris spilled into the receiver comes from a .070 orifice 9 inches down the barrel

>>34063322
yeah they've got two types the cheapo

http://palmettostatearmory.com/5-56-nato-full-auto-profile-bolt-carrier-group-35099.html

and the one that is actually okay

http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-5-56-premium-hpt-mpi-full-auto-bolt-carrier-group-no-logo-39339.html

>>34063324
I'll show you a .070 orifice and 9 inches

>>34063343
why are they the same price?

>>34062895
>Giddy admitting how disappointed he was when he got his RIS II?
I don't remember my complaint, what was it?

>>34063347
>why are they the same price?
the premium is on sale, the one I linked was the one sans logo
http://palmettostatearmory.com/palmetto-state-armory-5-56-premium-full-auto-bolt-carrier-group-8779.html

>>34063353
I have it screen capped on my other computer. You were saying how the Lite was a better rail.

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>>34063086
Hi

>>34063369
>mowed 20 extra lawns to buy meme upper to dremel

not a bad deal tbdesu
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-5-56-premium-hpt-mpi-full-auto-bolt-carrier-group-no-logo-psa-ar15-m16-charging-handle.html

>>34063357
I think I remember him saying something like "the lite rail is better for most people because it's lighter and cheaper" or something like that

>>34063377
seems good

http://palmettostatearmory.com/vortex-sparc-red-dot-scope-ten-magpul-pmag-30-magazines.html
Worth?

>>34063357
All i can think of is qd points and that the lite is slimmer.

However, the reason i went with a ris is because the id of the lite was too narrow for an adjustable gas block

>>34063373
>faster adjustment than any piston gun
>fixes all the issues eith suppressor use
Keymod is a meme

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Rate? Just installed a Geissele MK8 13" rail, 14.5" Noveske LCLP barrel and Surefire SF3P.

>>34063408
If your spending the time to crank a can on. Saving milliseconds on gas adjustments is meaningless

>>34063515
I rate it hivemind/10
It's like you lurked /arg/ for months and based your build on a pure dontbullymebro set. It's not bad, but pure diamond dozen.

>>34063528
It's easier to adjust and doesn't get hot.

It is superior in every way to a switch block/piston gun

>>34063515
looks great man

>>34063515
What barrel length and muzzle device?

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>>34063515
Looking good

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>>34063515
>index clips for cable management

>>34063540
>hivemind

I'd agree if he made a block II clone. Only /arg/ thing about that gun is the MK8 and SOPMOD

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>>34063555
>>34063563
Thanks

>>34063577
Lucked out with the DS-07 fitting perfectly too

>>34063549
>Adjust
Adjust for what?
Sounds like it's just ability to mess things up easily

>>34063580
And SF3P

>>34063580
and mlok

>>34063609
r u dum?

>>34063598
Bought the SF3P since I want a SOCOM556-RC2 down the line. Didn't want an SFMB because it's obnoxious to shoot and the warcomp isn't my favorite either

>>34063609
Got rid of my KMR rail after the rail bent a bit. The study on Mlok vs keymod sealed the deal for me too

>>34063586
Suppressed to unsuppressed

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>Troy xm177e2
>Mostly milspec internals with 'nam aesthetic
>1100$
>Ian Mccolum approved
What do you guys think?

>inb4 muh ruby ridge

>>34063648
How good is it at murdering children and women holding babies?

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>>34063648
Muh ruby ridge

>item moves with fedex from IL to FL
>fedex drops it off at my local usps and tells them to deliver it instead of delivering it today like they said they would
What the fuck

>>34063648
>muh ruby ridge

>>34063647
If your spending the time to let the can cool, take it off, stow it, etc. Then milliseconds saved adjusting back to unsuppressed is meaningless.

Unless your planning on baffle strikes so severe that you shoot your can off the rifle.

>>34063648
Do it. I really want one as well, even if it is just to fondle while I listen to CCR, watch Apocalypse Now, and pretend I'm clearing my house/property of charlies.

>>34063668
>Do manlets always complain
This is standard practice, if you wanted it faster, you should pony up for shipping. Cheaping out gets you cheaper service

>>34063675
Are you mentally retarded or you just joking?

>>34063648
But can it hang a 203 ?

>>34063684
I've never had Fedex drop something off to USPS before desu

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>>34062711
literally nothing wrong with that, S&W rocks. How can I assist your suicide?

>>34063648
Ruby ridge

>>34063687
Come again

>>34063668
You aren't very bright, are you. Check the shipping method. This is pretty common for both FedEx and UPS to do.

Don't be so impatient, otherwise I'm going to start calling you NewLizerd.

>>34063695
Yes

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>>34063584
>that cable management and tape switch position

>>34063659
Oh it's exscelent

XM193 tumbles nicely into babby with its 1 in 12 twist

>>34063659
>>34063664
>>34063668
>>34063703
Lon Horiuchi dindu nuffin wrong

>>34063706
Literally nothing wrong with wanting packages on time you little shit

>>34063664
Mk8 looks good m8

>>34063732
>baby killer

>>34063734
Pipe down you impatient little fuck

You guys were probably talking about this gorillion times, but as a so far no guns Eurofag I would appreciate an advice.
I'll be getting my license soon, and even though my first gun will be a "kosa" (vz. 58 which you can get for like 150 dollars here) I would like to buy an AR-15 soon after.
Problem is the market here is obviously quite limited and the guns themselves cost almost double their american price. M&P 15 is like 1100 dollars here.
So what are some decent and still quite affordable AR-15's for regular plinking and non competetive target shooting and /k/ wet dream scenario?

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>>34063706
Of course, how could I have been so blind! It all makes sense now

Honestly in all the time I've used Fedex or UPS this is the first time they've ever done this "Smart post" shit. I didn't even know they offered that as an option
>now i wait an extra week as usps forgets my mail yet again

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>>34063744
Post ar

>>34063749
This is the first time for you? They've been doing this for years. It's obnoxious, but I've just come to expect it when you opt for the cheapest/free delivery service.

>>34063756
Pipe down MSD

>>34063749
That's why I prefer USPS, faster, and no day wasted on handing off

>>34063761
Yea, never even heard of them doing this. It's extra retarded since they dropped it off at the post office that I can almost see from my house too. Guess I have something new to look out for

>>34063766
Anon pls

>>34063779
Just ask yourself if spending the $7.51 extra would have actually been worth it to get it one day earlier.

>>34063794
Calm down MSD

>>34063805
>spending the $7.51 extra
Stopped here ;^

If I order from Opticsplanet again I'm buying the standard though, I fucking hate USPS

>>34063823
I actually prefer USPS where I live. If I want it delivered to where I work UPS is best then.

>>34063815
ANON, PLS

>>34063853
MSD pls stop yelling

>>34063842
USPS where I am is absolute shit. Especially the distribution center north of me. Not even uncommon now for them to let a package sit around for 4+ days because lolreasons. The delivery center east of me decided to just not deliver my flashlight one time too. I had to drive almost an hour round trip to go pick it up because they "lost" it, but it was literally sitting on one of the dude's desk when I walked in. Also the time they left my FNX-45 at my doorstep without getting my signature cause they dropped it off at like 6:30 in the morning, becauses reasons I guess

The entire mail system just makes me mad every time I have to deal with it

>>34063867
[incoherent goat posting]

>>34063179
Lucky bastard

What did it run you?

>>34063892
300

>>34063872
Live somewhere better

>>34063747
Kind of hard to say bro given you are in Europe.

What are some brands you know you have access too?

The sport II is a good little rifle

>>34063898
Extremely lucky bastard

>>34063668
>>34063702
>>34063734

It's called Smartpost. They do the bulk of the legwork and leave the rest up to the post office. It's what you're gonna get for "free shipping" now through them. UPS does it too

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>thinking BCM makes their own bolts

tippy toppy hoppy maxiumeme kek

>>34063969
PSA shill pls go

>>34062771
and yet you still have MI on your gun

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>>34063976
if you can affords the BCM meme then by all means do it. Better CS and probably wont get your CC info stolen.

But saying PSAs premium line of riafus is shit is completely retarded and shows you know nothing john snow.

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>>34063991
>2017
>still quoting GoT
Sad

>>34063060
doesnt even drop mags, what a junk

throw it on the garbage fuck trash

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>>34063969
>most of the parts people buy are all subcontracted to machine shops
>one shop could produce several manufacturers "products"
>people still don't understand this

Nothing new really.

>>34063193
<3 post more elcan porn <3

>>34063749
FedEx an absolute fuckshit. They do something like this to me every time. My favorite is when my package arrives at the local facility and is then driven up to WA state to get sorted, then driven back south, adding a good 2-3 days for only traveling ~50 miles.

>>34064100
FedEx is only good for overnight from and to businesses. That's the business model. The rest is largely garbage

>>34064018
Despite this, BCM _still_ doesn't have any contracts.

>>34064116
My local FedEx is so bad I've taken to emailing retailers and asking how I can pay more for their shipping dept to use some other carrier.

>>34063942
i offered the dude 350 but he said he was happy with 300

nice guy

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>>34064128
And they never will.

RIP

>>34064169
how can one company be such an industry-wide laughing stock and still be considered good, even high quality?

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>>34063929
Well appart from some custom shop-tier german and czech brands that make AR's are: Bushmaster, S&W, DPMS, Ruger, Daniel Defense, NEA, Norchinko, Sig Sauer and Remington.

Heh, btw I just found out that we can buy G-36 and AUGs for about 1700 dollaridoos here.
And FALs and Italian M-14 are reasonably cheap here. That's quite neato. Our country ain't that bad I quess.

>>34064233
Of those, S&W and DD

Sounds like DD will be enormously expensive though

Second the guy who said Sport II is a good gun for the price

>>34064233
You would be the envy of a good bit of /k/ if you had a nice, unsporterized, semi-auto G-36.

>>34064147
i had fedex removed from my amazon account. told amazon either they go or I do.

>>34064213
>industry-wide laughing stock
They're not though... /arg/ doesn't represent the industry

>>34064277
this

i have heard nothing but good things about BCM

>>34064233
Yeah DD's are about 2-3k here for the lower tier ones, the high caste ones are up to 4k. Will look into, the S&W, thanks.
>>34064268
Well... maybe one day, when I no longer be a poorshit student.

>>34064277
>>34064303
post your BCM® Recce™-16

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>>34064277
>bendy rails at SHOT
>"we will never produce mlok accessories"
>"j-just kidding guys, c-check out our new mlok rail pls"

Pretty embarrassing famalam.

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>>34064315
Aside from /arg/memes, BCM isn't bad nor are they a laughing stock of the industry. They'll take a hit in sales initially over keymod lost to mlok, but they'll recover quickly and get back to competing with rails once they put out their new mlok and quad rails.

BCM is fine. There are a lot companies without contracts that /arg/ loves.

>>34064342
That's how life goes sometimes.

>>34064356
>That's how life goes sometimes
>a day in the life of BetaCuckMales

>>34064168
I'll give you 325 for it

>>34064356
they have a new quad rail?

>>34064356
>that's just how it goes
You are right about one thing.
http://www.m4carbine.net/archive/index.php/t-169913.html

>>34064368
lmao

>>34064370
"no"

>>34064368
Or just a day in the life of someone who understands what it's like working for a business that takes a risk on something.

keymod got btfo so you just pick back up and carry on. Not everything is going to work out for you.

>>34064382
I think I saw something about them putting out both MLok and a quad rail. I might be mistaken, but I know it was a possibility which would be nice.

>>34064385
You're going to find examples like that with every company.

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>>34064385
kek

>>34062474
Rekt

>>34064368
>>34064342
buttmad

>>34064414
Keymod should never have been a thing desu
>you know that thing that only really works if you have gravity keeping it together?
>yea let's do that but like wrong lmao

>>34064487
Why would I be mad? I don't own anything BCM, their failures don't affect me in any way other than schadenfreude

>>34064487
>buttmad that I bought superior products

Really microwaves the ol oatmeal.

>>34064414
Yeah I bet Colt has a lot of issues with the now standard gen 3 MCT pmags.

>>34064502
It's too bad that clairvoyance isn't a thing and you can't begin a project with 20/20 hindsight, just saying.

Are Harris Bipods memes?

>>34064529
turning the axis of two interlocking parts on its side where gravity/weight was the binding force in the original design is not an issue of "hindsight"

>>34064537
In what way

>>34064529
>shitty idea in the first place
>hindsight problem
> >>34064557
Mlok was a thing before Keymod was too, in its first revision at least

>>34064526
>find ones thread of a guy posting about a BCM lower that was found to be in spec but having trouble taking gen 3 pmag on a closed bolt
>one thread
>BCM is having a lot of issues with gen 3 pmags
k guy

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>>34064568
In that they are worth the 100-200 bucks people spend for them with QD detach etc.

>>34064594
they're fine just a bit heavy and bulky

>>34063016
Because they're not sub 11" :^)

>>34064569
Meh, keymod caught one and the market jumped for it. Can't blame them for producing it and marketing it if people were buying it.

There wasn't this mass exodus from it until the Crane statement on M-lok. So yeah, it's kind of hard to fault them for manufacturing it.

It'd be one thing to fault them if they were to double down still claim to be superior. Then you could laugh at them all you want.

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>>34064569
>Mlok was a thing before Keymod was too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLikP6BDH5w

>>34064654
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-LOK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLikP6BDH5w

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>>34061175

How'd you like that gator grip?

I quite like them, but they're not exactly common.

>>34064663
>Acknowledging the MOE slot systems shortcomings, Magpul drafted M-LOK as a new and improved mounting standard which was released in 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLikP6BDH5w

>>34064682
>moving the goal posts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLikP6BDH5w

>>34064663
>MOE slot
>It's M-Lok and why didn't other companies take what Magpul did first and do it themselves before Magpul put it out there for all to use.
You should kys

>>34064690
>MOE is M-LOK
Oh no he's retarded

>>34064690
>"Mlok was a thing before Keymod was too"
Actually, you're moving the goalposts.

It wasn't Mlok then, it was the MOE slots.

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>>tfw when you bought a keymod handguard

Well atleast I didn't buy any keymod bullshit besides rail adapters

>>34064711
It's the same concept, they just took it from a two piece to a one piece design

Moving from any bolt on to keymod was a step in the wrong direction

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>>34064716
90% of the mlok shit posters dont take theirs outside anyways

>>34064663
>MOE

Yeah that's a helluva mental leap to even consider them remotely similar in any way.

>>34064735
Still the future is Mlok.

>>34062551
Mlok
Mlok
Mlok
Mlok
Mlok

>>34064724
It's not the same thing. MOE was licensed by Magpul. No other company was going to steal that lest they want to get btfo in court.

It didn't become M-Lok until Magpul revised it and then free-licensed it. So, M-Lok was not around before KeyMod. But if YOU would like to move the goal posts now from your original comment, be my guest.

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>its another "my flavor of ergodynamic slots is better than yours" episode

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>>34064745
Yeah, it probably is. And when it comes time to replace my handguard I'm either getting a quadrail or mlok, but pretending already having one makes your rifle god tier makes you almost Giddy levels of retarded

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>>34064752
>>34064724
>>34064711
>>34064690
>>34064682
>>34064663
>>34064654
>>34064569
>>34064557
Being this autistic over nothing.

You're like kids in the 90s fighting over Sega and Nintendo

>>34064623
>keymod caught on

They marketed the shit out of it, you couldn't go anywhere without hearing about the latest greatest keymod shit being pushed by gun magazines and industry photographers who got paychecks or free parts to use.

It didn't make sense to buy into it then, just like it doesn't make sense now.

>>34064768
>>34064754
mlok users cast the first stone every time and attempt to justify their attachment slot shit every time. Literally who cares/10

>>34064776
Spoken like a true cockmod user