So the Steyr is being shilled a lot in the new aliens movie

>>33913872
>shill
>>>pol

>Shilled
Its just there because it looks futuristic, its a stylistic choice. No money changed hands, since Hollywood would never outright support a gun company outside of obliquely glorifying the use of firearms.
>Is it actually any good?
One of the best bullpups, for what that's worth.

>>33913872
its Lithgow's F90 you faggit. quite different and yes, it's god tier. go get one.

>>33913930
>Bestpup: AUG A1=F90 > AUG A3= AUG M1
>Shitpup: everything else, especially the jewvor and the x9.5moa

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>>33914036
>go get one
>believing new guns actually get released

>>33914078
>>33914036
>>33913930
YOU ARE IN A NAZI THREAD VACATE IMMEDIATELY

>>33913872
I got one with the 3x optic, which was not worth the price difference (could slap an aimpoint on it and it would be better hight for cheek weld for me)
Gonna get a corvus defenso case deflector and a paint job, but I just snagged one with the short rail for 1330 shipped.
Has the 16 inch barrel, heard it points better and the 3x I had had the 20 inch barrel and I didn't like it, too long and heavy.

>>33914036
>it's god tier
Based on what? Its manufacturer has only ever produced licenses copies, yet still managed to fuck that up on a number of occasions. Id wait until the reviews were in on Lithgow/Thales OCdonotsteel version of the Aug before making judgment either way.

>>33914092
Chill out there antifa, people talked about shilling before the election.

>the Steyr
That's like saying the Ford.

>>33914165
Steyr only has one notable firearm

>>33914967
No

>>33913872
I wish they'd been disguised a little more than "put some rails on this modern gun". Also, any flamethrowers in this movie or did they pull an alien3 in that regard?

>>33913872

Katherine Waterston with short hair makes me feel things I wasn't prepared to feel. I also now want an aug even more.

>>33913930
Haven't you seen Death Wish 3? It's pretty much a ad for the Wildey pistol starting Charles Bronson

>>33915064
name 3 well known steyr guns other than the AUG

>>33913872

>bitch literally slips on blood and misses her shotgun blast

someone explain this shit to me. is she just retarded?

>>33916157
M9-A1
Scout
HS50

>>33916179
>well known

>>33916198
Just because you're ignorant doesn't mean everyone is.

>>33916157

m1895, m95/30

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>>33916134
Wonder how /k/ Bronson was off camera

>>33913872
>Shilled
Shut the fuck up

>>33913872
>Aliens movie
>Steyr
>ACOG
what the fuck.

>>33916227
I want to believe he kept making those death wish movies to promote citizens blasting creeps without getting lynched by progressive dindu loving Hollywood.

>>33916341
This one is set much closer to our current time than the ones with Ripley. It's not unbelievable that a corporate security team might still be using older equipment as long as it still works.

>>33916341
>Having an ACOG that far forward on a Bullpup
>What is eye relief.

>>33913872
It's the only acceptable bullpup.

>>33916157
TMP

>>33916380
Sagara detected

>>33916359

>2104
>using a fucking steyr aug

that is literally like a PMC or army soldier in 2000 using a krag-Jorgensen. or in 2017 using a springfield m1903A1.

>>33916396
Not really. The Bongs used the Brown Bess for over a century when small arms were at a plateau. The Krag was introduced during a period of rapid development in small arms. That has pretty much completely settled right now and we're at another plateau.

>>33916394

That was one of the best episodes.

>>33916440

valid point. I forgot we are in a plateau on small arms development.

>>33916459
Basically it's all about the law of diminishing returns. A technology is fully mature when it works perfectly well, and any improvement in performance is minimal and comes at vastly increased cost. The M4 does everything the Army needs it to do, and while there are guns that are slightly better in certain ways, they're not better enough to justify how much more expensive they are. I suspect the M16/M4 family is going to be the Brown Bess of the 21st Century. Until we find a way to scale down power sources enough that gauss or railguns will be practical at least.

>>33916454
>tfw the new series is coming this fall
Feels good man
>tfw you learn it's animated by Xebec
oh......

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>>33916546
>tfw you learn it's animated by Xebec

>>33916546
>>33916586

I haven't been paying attention to Xebec recently, but /a/ was saying they're one of the better options for the show at this point.

I mean I don't know maybe we'll get Mao with fatter tits or something.

>>33916359
That makes a bit more sense. iirc in Prometheus the weapons the security personel had were more space movieish.

>>33916660
I refuse to believe anything /a/ says until I see it for myself. It's like listening to advice from audiophiles on what speakers to buy. Don't.

Still I'm cautiously optimistic. Most of the staff looks like returning members of the original or TSR team and the original author is heavily involved. Only thing that sticks out to me is that the small arms designer seems like a weird choice. I don't typically think of Valkyrie Drive: Mermaid when I think of good small arms design in chink cartoons.

>>33916684
And a lot of people complained that it wasn't gritty enough. Ridley Scott seems willing to listen and learn from complaints about Prometheus, thank God.

>>33916702
>And a lot of people complained that it wasn't gritty enough
I wish they had kept the deleted scene where the dude wrecks the rest of the crew. Shit was crazy. Link related.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ireq92-7Kk8

>>33916693

I'm assuming it will be good. As you said, the staff is back.

>I don't typically think of Valkyrie Drive: Mermaid when I think of good small arms design in chink cartoons.
I didn't even know they are bringing on a designer specifically for small arms. Maybe with nothing else in their portfolio they'll come up with decent stuff, in spite of past projects.

>>33913895
>Let's just appropriate popular terms to different boards!

You are the problem

>>33916396

I would bet they just picked it because it's sci fi looking rather than to imply we'd still be using them- and because it can be acquired from Australian and New Zealand prop armorers, where the movie was filmed.

Even assuming that it represents itself, I don't find the notion that modern-day small arms would be in use somewhere- what I question is that we'd send people to another planet with them. They'd probably have something more like a year 2100 interpretation of a combination survival rifle than a not-especially-successful bullpup from the 1980s- that you'd probably find in the hands of third world militias or tucked in the backs of lockers in reserve armories.

>>33917079
The specific model, I believe, is a Thales F90 which is the new Australian version of the AUG. It's got some interesting improvements, and considering Australia's prominent position in the south east, I wouldn't be surprised if the Yutani part of Weyland-Yutani acquired some.

>>33916134
Why would anyone see that [actual] film?

>>33916209
thats literally what well known means. one literal who knowing it isnt "well known"

How could I miss this?

And by thinking of it, Aliens came out with beginning of my puberty. No wonder I have some 'preferences' like short hair, tank tops, guns and tentacles when it comes to women.

>>33916515
the most likely improvement will be in propellants and ammunition rather than wholesale replacement of existing firearms

i.e. cost effective colder burning propellants that make caseless ammo more viable or new ammunition designs that maximize chamber pressure using less space, something like that

>Alien Covenant's Armor, Weapons, and Blood Effects
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhJQSUwcHEs

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>>33913872
Will there ever be a better space gun?

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>>33913872
Well they were 'shilling' them in Predator 2 back in 1990 and look how that turned out

>>33917309
Doesn't the plot revolve entirely around citizens putting down a chimp-out with surplus rifles?

it's a /k/ wet dream

>>33913872
>Movie made in Australia
>Uses ADF's new service rifle to save money
Simple enough. Lazy as fuck though.

>>33917731
I liked predator 2

>>33913930
Is it meant to be a prequel though? Cause in Aliens they're using pulse rifles. So this tech looks old in comparison

>>33917776

>Prometheus
>Covenant
>Untitled prequel 3
>Untitled prequel 4
>untitled prequel 5 (I'm not fucking joking)
>Alien
>Aliens
>Alien3
>Alien The One Everyone Tries to Forget About

Replace 3 and 4 with Blomkamp's film if that gets out of development hell

>>33917740
Yes, and it was very poorly received.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Wish_3#Reception

>>33913872
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhJQSUwcHEs

Apparently, the aliens armoury made his own rail system for the new model before steyr did.

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>>33917608
>space gun
>not g11

u wot m8?

>>33917747
>save money

you know they had to make prop castings for all the guns, right?

>>33917790
>Replace 3 and 4 with Blomkamp's film if that gets out of development hell
Fuck that. 4 was shit, but 3 was a fitting end to the main trilogy and is only disliked because "muh hicks, muh newt".
On top of that, Blomkamp is a hack that only had one good film in him and is apparently incapable of deviating from his dusty Aaron beck look.
>>33918048
>Making a mold and injection casting a bunch of preexisting guns
>Compared to the artisan crafting that went into the creation of the Pulse Rifle or smart gun
Such expense, much cost

>>33913872
why's most of the butt on open air with only the heel pressed into the very corner of her armpit?

>>33918064
well, at least they did get the Knoife guy to make those props.

>>33916341
Aliens was set 200 years in the future from Alien. Yea takes that long for pulse rifles

>>33918098
Aliens was 80 years after Alien, and the whole crew of the Nostromo were equipped with laser pistols so its not like everyone was still using Glocks in the 2120s when Alien was set.

>>33918064
No. Fuck Alien 3. Even worse than killing major characters off-screen (presumably as a big petty "fuck you" to Cameron for changing the genre too much, and the audience for liking it), it was what no horror/thriller move should ever be: boring. I gave a shit about the characters in Alien and Aliens. I couldn't care less about the idiots in Alien 3.

>>33917796
Yeah because it was a Cannon film and not very good. Personally I loved it, but I love terrible action movies in general

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>>33913872
>tfw the Blade Runner sequel will use the classic 2019 LADP Blaster instead of just giving everyone some modernish gun that looks semi-futuristic

>>33917419
Caseless will never be viable. The ammo simply isn't durable enough, cook-off problems aside. Polymer cased maybe, but you know they'll just figure out a way to slap a new upper on their M4 lowers to convert to that if it ever becomes a thing.

>>33918084
Is this your first movie/television show with gunplay?

>>33918335
Its only seen with Ford so far. For all we know yet, they went the GITS route with every other character and will give Gosling a see-through glock.

>>33913872
OHI OI 21 OH....what that for an name for an movie? is this some chemical formula or some bullshit

>>33918356
We see Gosling and another woman with the 2019 right in the trailer though

>>33918347
no, but i thought a big thing now was hiring firearms instructors to teach the actors and make it more realistic

>>33918384
Nigga, that's a very rare exception, not a rule.

Most directors are anti-gun and want to get the gun stuff over with as quickly as possible.

>>33913895
You are such a fucking a retard

>>33918384
Nah, only for a wee while, its not big anymore. Having advisors was rare as fuck prior to BHD making it popular, but then over the years people came to realize that having advisors means having to take into account their advise, which tend to infringe on creative vision for reasons that at the end of the day most directors dont care about. Take TWD for example, which had an advisor for the first season but the guy had an uphill battle the whole time and was fired before the second season.

>>33913872
What set up is that?? I want that for my Aug

>>33918753
chinese rails and superglue, plus grandpas old ACOG

>>33916724
Why do so many sci-fi franchises decide guns should have blue muzzle flashes in the future?

... Maybe the better question is why have WE decided guns can't have blue muzzle flashes

>>33918959
Because it would be pointlessly paying extra money to add in chemicals that burn a different colour.

I'm no chemist, but you could probably make handloads with additives I guess

>>33919027
It'd be kinda cool

>>33919027
friend in my shooting club was given some handloads that blew out dark red flames out of the muzzle

been trying to figure out what powder was used ever since

>>33918959
because it would be useless

in a cinematic universe where humanity doesn't kill itself off anymore and you're the only species in the universe - why hide your muzzle fire ?

so fuck yeah make it blue

>>33918338
>Caseless will never be viable
t. joguns fag autist
Pick up a history book nigger. We had caseless ammo hundreds of years ago and the Prussians issued that shit as standard. Caseless is the past, not future. Cased telescoping (CT) is the way forward. Brits are deploying it now with the French on armor. Everyone is just waiting to see if America jumps on LSAT.

>>33921723
>Pick up a history book nigger. We had caseless ammo hundreds of years ago and the Prussians issued that shit as standard.
Paper cartridges are not the same as caseless ammunition. Technically it lacks a metallic or polymer case, but when people say caseless ammo they mean solid propellant telescoped ammunition. I know it seems fun to be deliberately obtuse so you seem smarter than everyone else, but really it just makes you look more stupid.

>Cased telescoping (CT) is the way forward.
Exactly what I said. Well, I specified polymer, but obviously referring to the LSAT.

>>33916693
What anime are you fags talking about?

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>>33922132
Full Metal Panic.

MC is basically /k/ incarnate. Socially awkward autist who brings a Serbu Super-shorty to school and rigs grenade traps in the locker room.

>>33914967
>>33916157
Even Counter Strike literally has 3 Steyrs.

>>33921993
fuck off dumb nigger.

>>33922206
You're adorable.

>>33922206
Not him, but hes right. You being a pedant about the definition of caseless didn't impress anyone. Getting mad certainly wont help either.

>>33922222
>quints
fucking rekt

>>33922222
>quints and good argument
You cannot win >>33922206

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still looks like a good gun with the rail
without. not so much.

>>33913895
>mah /pol/ boogeyman.
>can't linkpost.
>>>/lgbt/

>>33916175
She's a fucking woman.

>>33916394
That was a SPP.

>>33919027
You could do it like fireworks in the powder but...
>copper compounds + chlorine producer
copper acetoarsenite (Paris Green), Cu3As2O3Cu(C2H3O2)2 = blue
copper (I) chloride, CuCl = turquoise blue.
This is for blue for fireworks but for the love of Kube clean your guns.

>>33914036
Having fired both previous steyrs and new f90 it's an overwieght unrealiable inaccurate piece of shit. You know nothing pleb don't listen to him op!

That's not Aliens, that's OHI OI 21 OHL.

>ACOG Eye relief is 1.5"

FIX YOURSELF

I really wish they had done a better job with the gun, considering how this is the universe that's home to the pulse rifle.

>>33922222
>Getting mad certainly wont help

Aggression, properly channeled, can solve a lot of problems in life.

>>33918041
just because it's kraut space magic doesn't mean it's a space gun

>>33914036

the F90 is shit, I played with one a few weeks back in PuckaPunyol.

I'm glad we adopted the LMT MARS-L instead

>>33916227
He was actually kind of a Chad.

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Why do so many bullpups do the full hand guard rather than a trigger guard?


Pic unrelated

>>33928548
Most bullpups were designed in a period where we thought the Cold War was going to be fought from APCs and wearing full CBRN gear. The extended trigger guards are to accommodate the bulky gloves of a MOPP suit.

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>>33914092
>nazi thread
you probably fly a rainbow flag to you racist

>>33928548
>nedm
we interrupt this program.

Hey /k/, been watching oeprator tier movies like 13 hours, Sicario, and the Hurt Locker recently, is there a screencap or list floating around somewhere of movies like them? I need more.

I've already seen saving private Ryan, all of Band of Brothers, and Black Hawk Down, hacksaw ridge is on the list.

>>33928820
this

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>>33914078
the MSBS bullpup is born too late for this movie

>>33917422
>easier balance and less recoil

kek

>>33928820
http://www.imdb.com/list/ls052122875/ have fun

>>33928856
>MSBS bullpup
muh dick

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>>33928920
Fanks anon

1. Drill hole through Cue ball
2. Nylon cord through that
3. Braid the cord together

Handheld wrecking ball more than capable of cracking skulls

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>>33928945
IKR

>>33913895
just leave this website.

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>>33913872

this is the only bullpup i want to own because it is a spacegun

it would have been in the movie

>>33929232
and to think people say this is ugly compared to the old famas

it's literally the helghast rifle, maybe cooler

>>33928856
That with an external casing to make it look more 70s future tech would be amazing.

That's the problem these new movies have. You can't do a sequel and use current stuff. It looks too new to be 'old' by the story's timeline and doesn't attempt to look 'modern' by the movie's own logic.

That's why the hyper futuristic tech shit in Prometheus looked retarded compared to the bulky space suits they used in Alien and why the guns didn't look great either.

At the point in time that Prometheus occured? You'd assume that the tech they'd have in Alien would be brand new and cutting edge. Having a larger version of the Nostromo would be a better 'representation' of the in universe stuff.

It's why Alien: Isolation was so good because it looked like it was actually from the same universe. All the tech looked like 70s future tech and the people looked like they were normal guys too.

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>>33929232
it is just a bullpup G-36

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>>33929232
>VHS
Muh dick

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there's plenty of futuristic guns out there they could have used

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>>33931486

they just have to actually look

>>33931508
Did liefeld design this

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>>33931526

it's the Six12, kinda gimmicky but neat looking shotgun

only really useful as an underslug weapon but still aesthetic as fuck

Why is she a brown unisex?

>>33929019
What

>>33923767
That Shit VFG