/meg/ - Military Enlistment General

First for being a good goy fighting for israel shipping out next monday.

Is it true if I enlist as infantry I'll get really good at cleaning for the next four years or is that just a meme?

>>33898028
You will become a combat janitor.

This retard I know signed up for the army reserves as an HR type thing and likes to brag about his payment being the same as infantry which i highly doubt and that hes being suckered by the recruiter.

Is it true you can join the reserves, get all the benefits and go to school at the same? Seems to good to be true for army partime and college full at the same time.

Another question, if I signed up for the Army as infantry or mechanized, wheres a good estimate I would deploy to? NATO or snackland?

>>33898052
Your pay is based on your pay grade, so your base pay will be the same regardless of MOS. But a lot of your salary in the army is based on bonuses. So he'll get the same base pay as any E1. But at the end of the day might get less because he's not getting any bonuses.

>>33898028
The few, the proud, the custodians.

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>>33898008
The real point of no return for /k/ was when these threads became normal.

have you ever had to talk to someone who outranked you so much it intimidated you?

yesterday i had to have a chat with the colonel who is in charge of my company
I am on the lowest rank in our armed forces and he is on the 3rd highest
stepping into his office felt like a scene from a movie as kenny roger's "the gambler" played in the background.

anyone else have an experience like this?

>>33898172
Yes you're not the only one, considering they are capable of fucking you in many ways

>>33898028
MEME MACHINE

>>33898052
pay is determined by rank, not by job. He will make the same amount of money as an infantryman of equivalent rank.

>>33898172
>colonel who is in charge of company

What kind of shit military are you in that colonels are company commanders or do you mean that he is in charge several echelons higher?

How hard is it to pass EOD school?

>>33898374
Very hard, EOD school has a high attrition rate.

>>33898374
IIRC they have the highest failure rate for any MOS school excluding any type of special operations shit.

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Which branch/branch would allow me to have a mustache?

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>>33898408
>>33898412
Why do most people fail the pipeline?

WHICH BRANCH WILL I SEE THE MOST COOL STUFF

LEGITIMATE QUESTION

I'm 26. I was a liberal @ 18

Is dog handler a good job?

>>33899025
You wanna handle dogs? Sick fuck.

>>33898145
This.

>>33898145
Oh, come on. Having one general thread beats the fuck out of having 10-20 threads a day asking the same fucking questions.

>>33898768
It's intentionally made to fail. It's physically demanding, mentally rigorous, and very time consuming, meaning your average person will struggle immensely to get through it, if they even can.

>>33898830
Coast Guard

>>33898768
requires autistic attention to detail

>>33899025
yes if you like doggos, but there are only like 4 dog handlers in the entire military so good luck getting the job. You need to go army so you can pick the specific MOS (31K) and be ready to play the waiting game with your recruiter.

>>33898008
Alright /meg/
How do I tell my mother I want to serve in the military without giving her a heart attack?

>>33899411
don't.
or wait for her to die first.

>>33899425
I can't, I'm 23 and want to do a SEAL contract.

>>33899411
Just say
>I'm joining the Navy, love you mom. I'll be safe in a nice cushy ship surrounded by big strong men.

>>33899472
less she knows the better?

>>33899531
Yeah, just be honest about what branch you're joining but don't worry her and tell her you're trying to become high speed. You can tell her later if you want.

>>33899411
Just say you're joining the National Guard, or if you wanna still sound cool, the reserves

>>33899411
Meet the recruiter, secure your contract, hell, do MEPS. Lie about it all, and come home one day and just tell her. "I'm leaving for the Navy on this date, I didn't tell you earlier because I didn't want to upset you, but I've signed the papers and I can't wait to go".

If she asks, you're doing something stupid safe like IT, so you can get experience and get a good job afterwards. Wait until you're a SEAL to tell her the truth.

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>YOU JOINED THE WORLDS FINEST FIGHTING FORCE TO BE A GRAPHIC ARTIST?
>OUTSTANDING NOW THAT IS A MAN WITH A PLAN !

in all seriousness, what would a drill sergeants reaction be if you gave that answer?

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>marine recruiter is coming to pick me.up.tomorrow
God I don't fucking want this
What questions should I ask / things to say to make him leave me alone?
He already knows I have asthma

>>33899652
Say you're gay and you wouldn't be able to resist all those sweaty fit men in the Marines

>>33898212
ours is just one of the several companies on that base
he runs the whole show

>>33899578
he'll just call you a smart ass and smoke you for it, teasing you the whole time saying "you should have gone to college you fucking pussy". Granted I was in 8 years ago before sjws took over, guys were still called faggots and pansies back then

the point is you will never, ever be correct about anything. You do something wrong youre a fucking retard and a failure, you do something right youre a kiss ass. Its meant to break down your self esteem enough and build camaraderie with your fellow soldiers. My DS's never once broke character and were normal to me

>>33898750
british royal navy circa 1867

>>33899652
What?

If you don't want to enlist, say "I don't want to enlist." What is he even picking you up for? Why are you in this situation?

>>33899814
I'm a beta and tried to appease him

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>>33899838
holy shit you deserve this then, i hope you get pressured into signing tomorrow and you get beat into a man by big strong men

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>>33899920
I just wanted the chairforce and he butted in why didn't that sexy airman try to save me

>>33899932
>that pic
what did you mean by this?

Also lads, I'm taking the OAR next week. I am not smart enough but I will do my best.

What sort of of airforce aircraft electronic and mechanical testing/maintenance jobs give good training for jobs when you get out? I've always marveled at things that fly since I was a wee lad in diapers watching the blue angels fly just above my house over and over. I currently have a bunch of cyber and intel jobs in mind but just being around planes gives me a chub

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>>33899962
I-i meant that cute boys are cute and that I want to join he chair force and not the marines

>>33899962
>pic
Means he's gay, and also unqualified to be a programmer so he has to rely on sexual favours for his job.

>>33899443
you and everyone else that walks into the recruiting office.
you in any kind of good physical shape?

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>>33899986
Why not? You'll fit right in.

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>>33900033
I'm not gay I want to join the chair force not the marines or navy
>>33900056
N-no I'm not tough enough and I don't have enough bravado...

>>33898008
>Go to Army recruiter last year asking about the path to flight medic
>68W, time in, apply in unit, etc.
>Ask about 68W, told contracts are backed up several months

>In October start hiring process for big city PD
>Today recruiter calls me, after not speaking for over a year
>"Hey anon, this is Sgt. Armyman from the Army office in Town, last year you asked about flight medic, and I talked to my command, and we may have a plan for you".

Basically, due to my college and other stuff I'll go in as E3, waivable to promotion to E4 at 18mos, instead of 24mos.

So, their plan is, take 68W, Option 4 (airborne), and go through the hoops. They figure

2mos BCT
1.5 total between waiting for jump school and getting it done
4-6mos at AIT depending on what they offer up
Get to unit, make good impression, get that waived promotion to E4, put name on list for flight, be in flight before 24mo mark reached.

Of course, all they can put in contract is 68x and airborne, but fuck...

>>33900096
Are all American recruiters like that?

Because my experience with the Canadian Forces has been like trying to herd cats

>>33898768
Prior EOD goy here. There are a few major hiccups where you see the biggest failure clumps.

First you have the initial EOD application, which is done at the nearest unit. It doesn't require any EOD knowledge to pass, but can be pretty physically demanding for those who aren't ready. You run around in a bomb suit and MOPP gear picking heavy shit up mostly. A lot of guys have a harder time in sustained JSLIST gear than the bomb suit due to deep down claustrophobia. We also ask a series of easy math and memorization questions like, "what's 16 times 6" afterwards and some peoples' brains are really so fried they simply can't do anything. So that's a big filter of the low tier dudes who didn't really understand what they were getting into.

At the actual school, the damn near the first thing you do is live demolition. Blasting caps and a pittance of C4. Some guys who have the smarts for the job simply don't have the nerve and turn to noodles when you give them a blasting cap.

After that you get into the actual phases of EOD knowledge. There are more sections within which are internally notorious for being big milestones, but I can't get into those too much.

I'll say that after the first couple of phases weed out the people who are just a terrible fit for the job, more people fail from losing their cool and frustration than from physically being unable to do the job, or not having the book smarts. That and getting distracted and making a simple, but stupid and instantly disqualifying mistake.

>>33900037
yes
I've been working on being in shape for this since I was 18

>>33900109
I've found it varies.

Marines are SUPER aggressive, they'll take you to a strip club and buy you coke and hookers if it means you'll sign.

Navy will try and fuck you, but make it look good while they do it. "Oh, yeah Anon, this job is super respected, and the civilian market afterwards is great". Or, literally, they'll try and fuck you. In my area 2 separate Navy Recruitment commands were investigated and arrests were made over sexual misconduct

Air Force is always out to lunch, doesn't want you to come by, and when they do eventually meet with you, does not actually have anything to offer.

Army is pretty relaxed, most of them will help you out, but they're not under enough pressure to get you to sign that they'll scare you off. Mostly. Some are dirtbags that want to get you into a shit job so they can lock a nice bonus for themselves, but most are eager to work with you.

Coast Guard recruiters are like 40 miles away, in the ass end of some ghetto city, they won't talk to you unless you're in height/weight regs, and because there's no job contracts in the Coast Guard (You take ASVAB, go to boot, go to fleet for 6mo minimum, then put your name on the list for whatever school you want, and get to go when you're called), they really do not pressure you at all. You've gotta stay on top of them but they'll help.

I've talked with Marines, Army, and USCG. 2 friends were royally fucked by Navy, and 1 friend is still looking for his AF recruiter 5 years later.

>>33900082
You have to be tough in order to get what you want. So man up or accept getting fucked by real men.

>>33900154
You guys don't have unified offices?
Like each branch operates their own recruitment center?

>>33900175
The offices where I got recruited had all the branches inside one building that was the recruitment center, but each branch had it's own seperate office area within.

>>33900175
Yes, usually the big 4 rent from the same building, because the DOD pays for it, but the USCG falls under Homeland, so it's located elsewhere.

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>>33899652

>>33899652
Just tell him you need time to think about it, retard. Or you know what, go with it. Clearly you lack any fucking balls to state your mind now, trying to appease a total stranger. Maybe the military will teach you something.

>>33900268
Does the word "no" not exist in your vocabulary? You'll be better suited as a boypussy for rich old men.

who here /medical/?

Signed for a comfy medical specialist job with the army (68N) and ship out in august.

What's it like working in a medical hospital? Hoping that there's a decent amount of chicks to fuggg, I get 'don't ship where you sleep', but still considering the rest of the army is a sausage festival I like those odds.

Hey has anyone heard from French Foreign Legion Anon? Last post of his I saw he was in Paris, running while waiting to apply or something.
I haven't seen any posts saying he didn't make it, so I guess he's in?

>>33899740
Jokes on them I already don't have any self-esteem.

Do they look at your medical records for a TS clearance? I legitimately forgot about something medically related that could possibly be disqualifying.

Aiming to join as 11B, probably option 04, this fall. 12B is my second choice.

What happens if I wash out of Basic or Jump School? I figure if I can do Basic I can do AIT, but will fucking up in jump school push me into some shit job like cook or what?

I'm starting a modest workout routine I plan to ramp up, but how /fit/ do I have to be? I know I need a 70 on each APFT event, but I'd that a goal I should reach before joining or is getting to 60s good enough and I can make up the difference later?

Also, backups are 19D, 35F and 35M. What's the deal with these beyond the job titles, which I already know?

>>33901339

You won't wash out of basic unless you are literally retarded or suffer a career ending injury. Most likely the same with jump school, with the career ending injury actually being more likely if you fuck up.

>11B
>12B
>Back ups are 19D, 35F, and 35M

Why are those your backups instead of your primaries? Any able bodied man over 18 can be an infantryman due to the magic of testosterone, but not everybody has the combination of brain power and knack for intelligence work. I assure you that if you're deploying to do tactical level intelligence as part of an airborne division you're going to be right there in the field with guys who failed out of rangers school and sf selection but you'll actually be pulling your weight.

>>33900175
Branch rivalry is pretty severe

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>>33898008
So I've got a question for anyone who's got insight into the Air Force. I'm looking into enlisting as a TACP. Up to this point in my life I've never served (28) but the only jobs I've had are avation related. I'm tired of being a loadmaster and want to do something with firearms.

My question is this. Compared to Combat Controller or a JTAC (which from my understanding is a certification/qualification you get as a TACP). Is one more preferable over the other? Also, realistically what is the duty going to be like? I've got a daughter and while I'm not opposed about deployments, TDY, or extended duty away from my family, I am looking to see about the timeframe for frequency as far as being away from base.

>>33901339
35M is a good MOS. Reclassed from a 15Q and it was a blast. I'd use 11B as your backup

>>33901339
>GO INTEL
i got offered intel when i was enlisting. wanted to go medic instead. wanted to be with an infantry unit so i would deploy. and so i could be emt when i got out. i seriously regret not going intel. life would've been so much easier.

>>33901609

This is all RUMINT, but I've been researching before trying to go in on a CCT contract. CCTs and TACP both have JTAC certifications, but they differ in their duties.

A CCT is responsible for both JTAC duties while attached to an SOF unit as well as running austere and covert airfields. Depending on what the ops tempo is a CCT might be in the field with SF or kicking down doors with a SEAL team, or they might be setting up a covert airfield in support of other such operations.

A TACP is going to usually go along with vanilla infantry, BUT the ones who are Airborne and BUDS trained get to go along with Rangers and vanilla SEALs on high speed low drag missions. A lot of CCTs are transferring over to TACP with the wind down in tempo because they prefer pulling JTAC duties over airfield duties and their existing qualifications let them work exclusively with SOF. Going straight in as a TACP wouldn't get you those certs upfront.

Again, this is mostly RUMINT that I've collected.

>>33900096

That's a plan, anon, but it's pretty standard stuff. It isn't like you're getting a hookup. Don't count on an E-4 waiver, but do your best to strive for it.

>>33901682
Ok, that's close to what I've read on my own research. As fsr as you or anyone here knows for that matter, being in my late 20's isn't going to be a hindrance when it comes to enlisting is it? I figure as long as I can preform on a PT test I don't think anyone will give a shit. That being said, I don't know.

>>33898008
>discord
Fuck off, /v/.

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Which MOS would be better prep for SF?
13F Forward Observer (FISTER)
35M HUMINT
11B Infantry
12B Combat Engineer
68W Combat Medic
11C Indirect Fire Infantryman
35F Intel Analyst

>>33900033
>implying you can program while being straight

>>33900096
>DO NOT COUNT ON GOING TO FLIGHT MEDIC FIRST CONTRACT.
you're unit is not going to let you drop a packet after being with them for a year. and the only medics i ever saw get waivered at 18 months were the medics that deployed. do not let that fat fuck recruiter tell you otherwise.

so many dudes get fucked trying to go flight medic. you will not get the opportunity to drop a packet if they like you. especially if they waiver you. if they promote you early, that means they like you enough to keep you around. they are not going to throw away their investment in you to get a brand new cherry private who knows jack all. DO NOT COUNT ON GETTING FLIGHT MEDIC YOUR FIRST CONTRACT.

>>33901789
I'm contracted for 13F for later this summer. Best MOS IMO.

>>33901789
Fist or medic.

Intel? Really?

>>33901789
>any of those
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Forces_(United_States_Army)#Qualifications

sf prep is more something you do on your private time. hit the gym, read the manuals, and ask your superiors for literature. it'd be ideal to get a short contract. then reup when you drop your sf packet.

>>33901623
So beyond the job title, what do 35Ms and Fs do, exactly? HUMINT collection is a pretty vague description. Is it just glorified Civil Affairs or what?

>>33901739

28 means you'd need an age waiver for CCT, but you'd almost certainly get it if you're in good condition.

>>33900329
>be medicfag
fort sam is fucking awesome. even more so for you if you behave. those phase 5+ patches will grant you weekend trips to austin. not sure about hospital life though. i only worked in troop clinics.

Hello, don't have much time, I'm in Basic right now and we passed from white phase to blue phase and they allowed us to use our phones for like ten minutes. I got nobody to call, and you fags are like family

Question
How the fuck do you keep knee pads from sliding down? This shit is pissing me the fuck up.

Is there anyway I could do a combat MOS, and then switch to intel once my contract is up (assuming I got the proper ASVAB score)

>>33902032
You don't. They suck, especially if they gave you the ultra mega thick ones. Just suck it up.

If you go to a decent unit you won't wear them, if you go to a stupid unit you will want to wear them at your ankles anyway.

>>33902032
>kek
cross pattern. bottom strap to the top loop. top strap to the bottom loop. velcro in place.

>>33901995
It's human source intel. You can end up doing a shit ton of stuff. Some dudes get attached to marine units for a given amount of time. Sometimes you get attached to an infantry unit and go door kicking (such was many times the case in Iraq). You deal with detainees and do interrogations. Although you don't fuck keeping them for extended periods of time. You also will be the intel source for your CO on deplotment. 35M typically deploy in small teams and are attached to a larger unit. In garrison its boring though.

>>33902055
>>33902057
Kek. Thank you guys. We're passing phone back in like 5 minutes. I forgot how fucking funny ylyl/humor threads were.

Is Omaha really that hard, they keep saying we use live ammo and that a kid died years ago for disobeying orders, misfired and shot the kid across the other lane while high crawling.

>>33902152
>shit happens
don't worry about it. a drill sergeant will be by both dudes bounding. i even fucked up omaha because i'm a lefty.
>went to do a mag change
>kneel with left shoulder behind cover
>drill sergeant goes ape shit
>realize i was about to flag everyone to the rear.
almost got kicked off the range that day.

>side note
you got an address? i'll send you some cough drops.

>>33901896
What's wrong with intel? Intel friend of my father's went SF with an intel background. Granted he worked out almost every day.

>>33902069
Thanks, anon. My uncle went Intel in the early 90s after spending most of the 80s as an 18B. I think he was enlisted when he was SF though, so he must've become an officer at some point.

Anyway, he spoke fondly of it, but intel is based in Ft. Huachuca. The thing is, as much as I love AZ, I'd rather not be stationed here. One of the reasons I'm joining is to get away from the shit I know and am comfortable with.

>>33899969
Anyone able to comment on this?

>>33902412
when you get to basic they ask you what your top 3 conus and top 3 oconus picks are. most of the time you will get one of those.

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Redpill me on fun jobs for the Navy /meg/

What would/did you chose and why? I dont have any fucking idea of what i want

>>33902412

Huachuca is the center for intel, but it's small and there's very few personnel actually stationed there. It's mostly training units where people spend a few months learning their MOS.

I know a bunch of people would kill for Huachuca as a duty station, it's pretty awesome. You probably won't get a chance to be stationed there.

>>33902496
Ended up not doing navy because I wanted to go combat arms. Navy looks pretty great if you want mechanic or communications jobs though. Just depends on what your interests are really. Read up on the rates and what looks interesting to you.

Ugh I'm getting in shape to join the National Guard, and I'm struggling with running. I'm trying that C25K program everyone suggests here and I can't get through a whole session of the first day. I just tire out too easy when I start jogging. I've been trying for over a month, and I'm not improving. Any advice?

What is it like being an Air Force gunner?

>>33902636
What's your weight? If you're too heavy you might want to focus on losing weight first. Other than that just keep going. It's mental more than anything. If you push yourself until you can't go any harder you're doing something right.

>>33902707
5'9 and 185, so not obese or anything. Maybe it is a mental thing, I dunno. Should I just force myself to complete the first day of the program, even if I physically feel like I can't?

>>33900955
Bump

>>33902726
it's your motivation. switch out running and opt for rucks. before i got in i'd throw on a 20-25 pound backpack, put in my headphones, and just walk. given, my pack had beer in it....
>>33902727
>TS clearance
no.

I'm in debt and I'm getting collect calls now. Can I still join?

>>33903096
If you've been sent to a collecting agency and/or have debt that could prevent you from shipping out that's a big problem.

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What should one expect from USMC OCS?

>>33898052
>Is it true you can join the reserves, get all the benefits and go to school at the same? Seems to good to be true for army partime and college full at the same time.


Sort of. You only get paid for days you drill, but while you're drilling you have medical coverage in case you get hit by a car because your chain of command has you running PT in the middle of the street. Some states also have a state level analog of the GI Bill that help you pay for school (not sure if states like Texas also give a stipend/BAH). You can also use Tuition Assistance while in the Reserve.

But you don't get the Chapter 33/Post 9/11 GI Bill unless you go on active duty orders for X amount of months/days. X determines what percentage you get. So 11 months to 1 year you get 50% tuition 50% BAH. 24 months gets you 100%. So as a reservist you need to deploy twice. Which isn't as likely to happen right now compared to a few years ago AFAIK. But I've been out for a few years already.

>>33898172
>have you ever had to talk to someone who outranked you so much it intimidated you?

Nope. Casually conversed with a 3 star.

>>33903113
How much debt counts as big with the army?

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>>33898008
Post guns used to fight for Zion

>>33899740
>smoke you for it

YOU CAN'T CALL IT SMOKING ANYMORE IT'S CAPING OH MY GODDESS

t. TRADOC commander

>>33901995
>and Fs do, exactly?

Your question about Mike was already answered so here's an answer about Fox:

In the intelligence cycle you would work in the Analysis and Dissemination steps. You take HUMINT, SIGINT, GEOINT, OSINT, and combine it with historical knowledge of a topic, region/locale, individual, organization, state etc. and create predictive analysis.

You then disseminate said predictive analysis to the customer (hopefully get feedback) and that allows them to make a policy decision.

That's the most general description possible for intelligence analysis. But what you specifically do will be determined by what units you go to and if/where you deploy. My experience working in the J2 in Iraq was vastly different from my experience working in the ARCENT G2 in Kuwait. While CONUS I got the chance to do some pretty good intel related courses and classes out of the SEARISC and at CENTCOM.

>>33903647
If you have collection agencies on your ass you'll have to disclose that. If the money isn't too big you could be fine but you'll likely have to have a talk with them about it. It's mostly a concern that you can't pay it off right now that would be an issue since you'll be away for a few months for basic.

They also have ways to write off student loans if you enlist so ask them about that.

>>33903949
It's 1k presently.

>>33904297
that's nothing, you're good

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>>33902436
halp

>>33904424
Thank fuck!

How much do you swim after boot camp if you join the navy? I'm a good swimmer but I am prone to ear infections if i'm in the water too much

>>33904575
Yeah just make sure you don't have any urgent payments so you are cleared to ship out for basic. With debts that low you should be fine. You'd need to be at like 80k to be in trouble.

>>33904751
What if you had your 3k credit card maxed out?

>>33904871
I can't tell you for sure but my guess is that you'd get called in to talk to the company commander and you'd have to explain that your debt is really low and you'd be cleared to ship. Just make sure to score well on your asvab and they'll be willing to get you in.

>>33904943
96 plus 51 college credit will do fine I'm sure.

>>33904982
Absolutely. You're good. Just tell your recruiter about the situation and they'll set you up. You'll get an option 3 contract too if you don't disqualify for medical shit.

Am I a tool for wearing my dog tags when not deployed?

>>33905130
Yes. I bet you wear your uniform wherever you go too.

>>33901789
None of it matters. I was 74D CBRN.

>be eurofag
>17
>move to usa because won the greencard
>now 20
>thnking about joining a military branch because: imediate citizanship, can own guns now, aso its good money and want to help my mother to buy a house

im 6'3" 220, can run a mile in less than 10 without being dead
>not "fit" but not paralitic ether
>can follow orders
>speak 4 languages.
what branch should i join? i was thinking i could be a translater since i know multiple languages (russian is one of them)

>>33905520
jesus christ, im drunk and i cant spell for shit. ether way. im not asking for specific jobs. more in a general way.

>>33901824
I figured as much, honestly I'm not specifically going for flight medic, my goal is to do a 4 year as airborne, really I'd like to go to 10th Mountain as a line medic, but I doubt they're gonna put someone who wants airborne with a leg unit.

While in I want to get my NREMT-P certification, as it's a pain in the ass to get in my home state because my state is a communist hellhole. Then after 4 years I'll either re-up, and try out for the 75th, go for flight, or dip out and go back to working where I work as is, just with better pay and more training. Or resume the hiring process for the big-city PD.

Although, I am friends with several people that went flight medic, or had the chance to, first contract. One is a 68W that just separated to go guard for the contract, but is being asked by active to come back with a flight medic contract and signing bonus.

>>33900329
MEDCOM is where medics go to die.

You're basically non-promotable there, but in MEDCOM you can get into a nice program they have setup where you'll attend PA school, then sign a 6 year re-up as either a CWO or come in as officer as a PA in MEDCOM. So, not too bad, I guess. Just be prepared to eat shit. Google CNA, PCA, or PCT and then get prepared to do a whole lot of that.

>>33905520
Well what do you want to do? You sound like a smart dude with the 4 languages thing, so you could either pick an MOS that plays to your strengths and doesn't require too much extra physical activity, like interpreter or some Intel or other support job, or round yourself out by doing something more physical and frontline-y.

>>33898145
It's more of a containment thread.

Getting so sick of hearing
>sup /k/. Just graduated high school and wanna join *Insert Military Branch* and become a *Infantry or Infantry related MOS* but am scared of *Things Infantry training does*. What do?

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honest as fuck, is the military worthwhile right now?

I don't know if I'd like a peacetime military, as i understand it there isn't a whole lot of *doing*, nor much vertical promotion. correct me if I'm wrong.

It's either college for me, which i become increasingly doubtful that i want to do considering debt and lack of value i see in it.

I figure i might become either a fireman or a National Guardsmen, what are the thoughts on either considering my concerns?

>>33905721
like i woild rather get a desk job, im in college, already earned around 15 credits (its a computer field (i dont know if that helps)
my gpa is around 3.5
only down side is that i had a knee surgery because of a car acciedent. but i got full mobility and it does not hurt (well not 100% true, but its tolerable, i can lie to the recrouter/docs with no problems)
now on terms of the languages, i wold do anything, like my russian is almost native level, i also speak spanish very well. english well, you can asume its decent.
i would rather aim for anything that uses my language skills, since its natural to me and it will not be to difficult to double up on it and become excelent in speaking/writing russian.

>>33905749
Peacetime military renders certain MOS non-promotable beyond E-4, such as 11X, 35M, 13X, and a small handful of others.

There's only a limited number of E5 and above slots in the army, and without a combat deployment, you're just not gonna get it.

That being said, if you go into Intel, Medical, Mechanical, or anything that's not grunt, essentially, you'll be able to promote, with some difficulty.

Depending on the state you're in, Firefighter might be a far fetched dream, or an incredibly underpaying one. National Guard is an option, but it's not a full time job.

My advice is either figure out what you want to do in life, and see if the military benefits you in doing so.

>>33905765

Go to recruiter, tell them you want to be a linguist. They'll pop a boner. Tell them you want the signing bonus. Their boner will deflate. Tell them you speak fluent Russian and Spanish. The boner will be back.

You'll take the DLAB, or demonstrate before a panel of linguists that you speak the language fluently. Then, you'll do BCT, go to DLI if needed, and hit a unit as a linguist. You'll be incredibly promotable, and get very lucrative signing bonuses every 4 years. Might even be able to go CWO from it.

>>33905749
I don't give a fuck, that shirt is boss even if tasteless.

>>33905722
Think about where you are m8. People on /k/ want to do stuff in uniform that's not sitting on front of a computer screen for hours on end. Most people here already do that, so why wear a uniform when they can do it naked as civilians and jack off to big fucking anime titties at will?

/meg/ attracts people who want to break that cycle, and see combat arms is the easiest way to stop sucking at life.

national guard sent me an email

what do they even do, suppress chimpouts?

>>33898028

Garrison life for Infantry sucks ASS

>>33905788
jesus christ, ukrainian is a category 3 language and im fulent in it. with that and russian i think im set.
i did not mentioned before because i thought i would be useless. wtf is this? is it because of the current war between ukrainians and russians??

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>>33905773
>Depending on the state you're in, Firefighter might be a far fetched dream, or an incredibly underpaying one. National Guard is an option, but it's not a full time job.
>My advice is either figure out what you want to do in life, and see if the military benefits you in doing so.
fuck

i want to be at least mildly heroic and aid my people and country

sounds all gay and shit but that's really what i want to do.

>>33905847
It's because the military dicks around in the Russians back yard

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>>33905876
as long as it helps me, i dont really give a fuck about what they do.
pic realted that is me right now, you aweaken the master of the language fitness

Any army SF guys here?

Currently a USMC 0317 and want to get the fuck out of the conventional military. A lot of my buddies went to MARSOC but as much as I like being an oorah debbil dawg the truth is the marine corps is a shitty branch to be in in terms of training and funding (yeah I know MARSOC gets their funding from SOCOM but at the end of the day they are still low on the list of priorities for the DoD)

I'm mostly interested in army SF because of their prestige in the realm of FID, which is what attracts me to SOF in general rather than being a pew pew operator.

Would like to hear from any Army guys who have experience with SF to see if I would be on the right track with going for an 18x contract. I already know I can handle whatever they throw at me physically, just curious if I were to pursue this as a career whether or not I would be disappointed. I'd like to think that as a seasoned 0317 I would bring a lot to the table.

>>33899969
bump for this

if i join the military, where will i keep all my anime?

i got a nice ass collection, and i dont think anyone will take it for me

>>33905893
If having to use your brain for once might disappoint you then just stay in the marines

>>33905910
Not too concerned about it since I almost definitely have a higher GT score than you but thanks for the input

>>33905928
You want to do FID work and you're wondering if a field that heavily involves FID work will disappoint you? You're not very bright.

>>33898768
>fun meter
lul

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>>33905858
>tfw all this shit going on and we're not in any of it except for SOF, if that
>No big ISIS attack that causes another ME war and a new round of kebab removal
>Norks not starting shit realistically, so no killing commies
>No Article 5 invocations by NATO
>Russkies not starting shit, so no killing crypto-fascists
>Venezuela not a national security threat, so no killing commies
>Chinese not starting shit, so no killing the ant people depleting Earth's resources and fucking the rest of us over
M-maybe we'll get something soon.

will soldiers make fun of me if im a virgin

>>33905982
when exactly is the PRC going to drop their we-aid-DPRK-if-roundeye-attacks deal?

i hope we invade them as soon as their PRD-backed warranty expires.

also
>Russkies
>crypto-fascists
meme extreme, kindred

>>33905893
MARSOC is basically another SFG, but Marines instead of Army. Capabilities are extremely similar, but MARSOC is still figuring out its place in the universe while SF is just evolving as needed.

A shitload of what SF does is training other dudes to kill dudes we don't like, and working with said dudes trained by you or another SF team to kill bad dudes. If you like teaching as well as doing, SF might be for you. Otherwise, go MARSOC and do COIN with less interaction with locals.

I'm not knocking SF, they oper8 hard and my uncle was an 18B, so I'm actually pretty fond of them too. But know that their reputation is in large part due to taking time to turn locals into effective allies.

>>33906099
I don't throw that word around lightly like antifa faggots and butthurt progressives do. But Russia is a right-leaning (not a bad thing in itself) statist autocracy run by a quasi-dictator. A competent one at that, but incompatible with the values America was founded on (democracy and individual freedom), so we can never be anything more than allies of convenience (as long as the status quo endures), as in WW2 when they were commies.

It's not outright fascism, but what that word entails exactly admittedly varies from person to person.

Also I want to shoot rockets at T-72s and watch their turrets pop because it's the closest I'll ever get to my Fulda Gap fantasies.

>>33898008
Ben Garrison that please

>>33899255
He means the OP using /pol/-tier images

>>33903495
To run a lot, to lose weight, and to get sick. It's not fun.

>>33904611
None if your job doesn't require it

>>33906992
You need to have a sense of humor about these things. A lot of people will give you shit for joining the armed forces and laughing it off is better than being an uptight cunt.

>>33905520
Important to consider when picking branch: if you're not a citizen yet you can't get a security clearance so that limits your choices of MOS a lot.

t. Eurofag who enlisted US army last month

>>33905773

>There's only a limited number of E5 and above slots in the army, and without a combat deployment, you're just not gonna get it.


This is bullshit, especially since they lowered the value of combat deployments for promotion a couple years back.

The simple fact is that the way to stand out over your peers is doing civilian education. Most Joes are too dumb or stubborn to realize they need to be working on their degree if they want to make E-5/E-6, even in grunt jobs.

>>33905803

>so why wear a uniform when they can do it naked as civilians and jack off to big fucking anime titties at will?

Because you get pay and bennies for doing it in the military.

>combat arms is the easiest way to stop sucking at life.

Except all the combat arms guys who go right back to sucking at life as soon as they get out, because they gleaned nothing of practical value from their service.

>>33905907

I kept mine in the barracks. If nobody will hold it while you're in training just put it in storage.

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>>33906910
Found one with color

Is it worth it going in as a plain 68w or should i wait for an option 4 extension?

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>>33900154
>and 1 friend is still looking for his AF recruiter 5 years later.

kek

>>33901339
Go EOD

>>33901339
If you fail jump school somehow, you'll just be an 11B. Please describe your 'modest' routine. If you're joining in fall you have plenty of time to prepare. A good routine to use is Alan Thralls 'boot camp ready' video. Its originally for the USMC but can easily be adapted for the army.

Regarding Navy Postgrad School, if I'm an active officer and I get accepted, is the time spent working towards my PhD time in service?

Is enlisting for Infantry just a way to throw your life into the trash?

>>33908069
The army is what you make of it. If you go in with no ambitions you'll leave with nothing to show for it. But if you're active and try to get as much training and save money while you're in you could come out with a good budget and then go to college with the GI bill. Most of the people who come out and end up being the stereotypical failed at life veterans end up that way because they live paycheck to paycheck when they serve. Don't be that guy.

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Does the army have any specific training for any thing to do with water and if so is it open for enlisted infantry

>>33898008
>Should I go nuke???
>No.

Why not

>>33900114

then after they get dropped they get sifted to needs of the army most of the time, which is typically pog bullshit, and causes them to become alcoholics

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Is it true that i would be able to study while active duty on the navy? Do you even get to bring a laptop+internet in a carrier?

I have a feeling the recruiter might be sweet talking me

>>33908197
Long class room hours of challenging instruction.

Plus the pipeline is long as balls Ive been in for a year and 3 months and im only in prototype.

And fleet lyfe isnt that great.

The certifications and pay are pretty dope though.

>>33908310
Oh so the stuff they tell you upfront and that's obvious if you look at the nuke program. I ship in like three months so I was wondering if there was anything that I wouldn't know about.

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>>33908105
>3 out of 5 branches focused on things to do with water
>You chose the Army

>>33908363
It's the MOS with highest suicide rates by far.

>>33908375
Perfect for me then

>>33908399
Jump off the skipjack barracks pussyfart

>>33908363
Oh yeah start smoking the smokepit at NNPTC is annoying but the kids that dont smoke are insufferable. Also dont date other nukes.

>>33908197
/meg/ didn't score high enough on asvab so they are eternally jealous

>>33908522
Don't you only have to score in the 70's? I don't quite remember.

>>33908374
Y-yes

>>33908532
Most people who get in the 90s auto qualify if you dont then you have to take an additional exam

>>33908564
Yeah that was me which is why I don't know

>>33901896
I knew a band person that passed selection and a chaplains assistant that passed selection. I also know a fuck ton of infantry and cav scouts that did NOT pass.

>>33908522
>tfw too smart to go nuke

95 asvab infantry master race

>>33908602
>Tfw too intelligent to not get blown up by an IED and die for nothing

>>33908197

It's a nerd job with worse prospects and lifestyle than the other nerd jobs. If you want a smartguy job just go CT*. Better in every way.

>>33908628
>Joining the armed forces
>Don't even use guns

Why bother?

>>33908602
I got a 97 and I'm going nuke

>>33908541
SEALs and Recon Marines are really the only infantry types with a focus on swimming.

>>33908602
>he thinks asvab scores matter

Congrats bro sick geometry knowledge enjoy that hijjab IED sandwich

So I'm really allergic to bees like I'd probably die if I didn't get some EPI. This basically fucks me when it comes to enlisting right?

>>33908306

Someone? Is it really possible to study while AD? how does that works?

>>33908711
Just lie and hope you don't encounter any killer bees. Not like everyone has been stung before.

>>33908754
>Aviation Rate
>Studying

You'll be huffing glue and eating boogies in your off time shipmate topsiders are the dumbest of all the targets.

>>33908306
Ya its true but he's definitely sweet talking you. Depending on job you're going to not get much free time anyways and internet onboard carriers/ships is not good and not going to work the entire time out at sea.

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Hello all.
I want to join the military to help pay for college and get work experience in the computer science industry.
I was considering being a computer programmer or cyber security in the Air Force. Can anyone tell me what this is actually like, or tell me where I can learn more?
About me: 22, MtF(hormones for nearly a year), some college courses in programming, good physical and mental shape.
I also have questions about being able to enlist as a transgendered.
Just wanna serve muh country.
I'm not a robot.

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>>33903655
are you shitting me
so this sjw boogey man is for real?

>>33908902
go away chelsea

>>33908902
>MtF
>Good mental health

wew

So my recruiter told me that these were all he had right now.
Admin, unit supply, Infantry, combat engineer, military police and chem specialist

Have any of you ever had experience with these? Any good, bad. I looked it up and I'm thinking Admin, chemical and combat engineer.

>>33909374
You should wait until you can get a job you really want, admin is shit.

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>>33908902
You can't serve. Even the AF doesn't let trannies in.

>>33909374
Straight tell your recruiter that you want (insert MOS here) or you're not interested. You'll either magically get it, they'll call you when its availavle (provided you're desirable for the mil) or they'll blow you off. Either way it's a win

>>33909444
That might be outdated. I know for a fact a few of the other branches allow transgender people.

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>>33909274
>>33909444
Ok ok ok but what if i just lied and said i was normal until i finished basic then came out and got medical help. Would MEPS doctor notice my obvious budding tiddies?
Seriously, I'm not a bad person.
Isn't it the law that they have to accept trans by July 1, 2017?
Anyways, I was really looking for solid career advice to help me with my future. Not trying to start a shitstorm here.
But if this is the attitude that people would have maybe I'll be better off as a civilian.

>>33909411
Is it really that bad, he made it sound like it was something really good that helped people out.

>>33909465
I mean I'm not the cream of the crop, not particularly smart but I'm above average. Though from where I come from I suspect that's not saying much. I'll tell him, thank you for the advice.

>>33909487
I just screencapped it from the AF recruiting site.
>>33909524
Lie at MEPS, you wouldn't be the first. But like anyone who does, if they find out they'll fuck you even if its later in your career.

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>>33909578
Well the law says that you can serve openly as a transgender and that they have to allow transgendereders to enlist starting this year.
So basically you can seek treatment as an enlisted service member, and you have a right to do so. Once military medical peoples have determined that your gender transition is complete, you will then serve as a member of the opposite sex and be subject to their standards. Of course, this must all be approved by your commander.
https://www.defense.gov/Portals/1/features/2016/0616_policy/DoD-Instruction-1300.28.pdf

why are trannies allowed to serve in the military? I thought the military wants able minded people, yet they're allowing in the mentally ill?

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>>33908902
Try again phone poster

>>33909524
You should already know this if you've been transitioning for a year, but outside of internet hugboxes you are going to be treated as a weirdo by both military and civilian employers/coworkers. That being said, everybody already gets fucked with for being new so you'll need a thick skin in the military no matter what. If you want to serve, go for it.
With that being said, even though it's officially accepted, you'll still be treading new ground and can't expect to be treated like a normal recruit.

As for job advice, cyber/programmer stuff is extremely underpaid compared to the civilian world so unless you REALLY want to be in the military for some reason, don't bother.

>>33909700
They let retarded people in too

>>33898905
I'm 23, I was always fairly conservative. Now, I don't know what I am. Probably national socialist.

>>33909711
holy shit i fucked up everything about this post

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>>33909711
Thank you for taking me seriously.
Well the way I see it, it's very tough to get into the tech industry without lots of experience. So coming out of the military with years of work experience and a degree might help me to be more competitive in the job market. Or I might decide to make a career out of it.
The alternative would be to work and go to school full time, taking out student loans and not gaining relevant work experience.

>>33906197
>But Russia is a right-leaning (not a bad thing in itself) statist autocracy run by a quasi-dictator.
honestly, considering Russia's recent past and geopolitical position, their form of governance is perfectly understandable.
remember that he ran on a platform of stopping the durkas that were doing shit like bombing moscow, and did just that.
fascism has a very specific form of governance, and that isn't what Putin is. If you just want to call him "dickhead" i wouldn't argue though.

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Just how hard is to get into OCS?

For what i have read online, it goes on the lines of having a competitive GPA, good PT and doing well at the academy; but is that all? Is the college/school you attended taken in consideration? Letters of recommendation from acquaintances? Employment background?

The thing is, i am new in the states, i can only afford a cheap college and get recommendations from the people i work with... Perhaps gain a few from the professors if i play my cards right but definitely not from veterans .

So, is it still achievable? Or is the cut off to high? I am in good shape and reasonably smart. I would rather enlist first but my age would not allow me to become an officer later on and i dont want to make a military life if i am not aiming high on it...

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>>33909886
Actually after reading this it says you need to have been on hormone therapy for at least 18 months. I really don't want to lie to anyone so I guess I'll just tell my recruiter that we will have to wait until fall.
https://www.defense.gov/Portals/1/features/2016/0616_policy/DTM-16-005.pdf

>>33909684
If you want to try and outmaneuver the military then more power to you. But I'd wager you'd lose

>>33909684
>joining the military and then starting some legal shit cause you're mentally unbalanced

You're putting others in danger with you special snowflake bullshit and weakening national defense by imploring the military to allow people unfit for service to join

>>33908638

>TFW I get to shoot more as a computer nerd than any of the conventional "combat arms" fucks at my base.

Extra money and standard office hours means more time to go to the range and more cash to spend on funz.

>>33909886
I struggled with college for a few years before deciding to drop out and enlist so I can understand your desire to just jump right in. I've just heard of cyber guys being taken advantage of by the military because they didn't know any better. Money isn't everything though.

As for waiting until Fall, that's probably for the better. Give them time to get used to having transgender recruits in boot camp so you don't have to be the first one who they don't know how to treat.

>>33910037
I'd rather have a dude who likes wearing cute skirts watch my back rather than some gangbanger who got a 30 on the ASVAB but we've always let them in.

Writing a resume for Border Patrol as I type this

trips decide what I name it

>>33899969
Alright I'll bite, if you want to work on any aircraft at all in the civilian field you'll need you Airframe and Powerplant License. There are a shit ton of jobs and starting pay is around $60,000 and can increase to triple degree salary.

test

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>>33910578

>>33910121
Most military cyber personnel are trained from scratch at various cyberwarfare schools. It's hard to say someone is underpaid and taken advantage of when they come to you with zero skills and you train them on everything.

Yes, they're valuable after they learn all that stuff. That's why they get out and get good jobs after doing their time.

If I get in shape and keep my mouth shout about the fact that I've seen a therapist for the past five years, do I have any chance of enlisting?

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>>33910599
thank you

Navy guys:

CT, IS or Medic? I'd be interested in all 3, but which is the best with the most prospects in the civilian world? What sort of C-Schools are involved with CT? Cause I was looking at Medical C-Schools, and the Physical Therapist one seems pretty nifty, as it's something I've toyed with becoming at one point in time in my life.

>>33910854

CT has the best prospects by far.

How do I trick myself into believing infantry ain't all that and a regular hands on MOS is just as honorable as any other?

Not a ruse, being serious. I really want infantry but may not actually be mentally all there for it. Is serving all the same regardless what you do? Is all the POG shit just for giggles?

>>33910916

If you have to trick yourself into believing reality then maybe you should just join infantry and see what reality is like to dispel those illusions. When you're there you can look around in the trenches and see all of the support guys running the same risk as you but while doing something more than just toting a weapon, and when you're doing nothing you can look around at all the people carrying out a function in spite of not being deployed.

While you're at it glance out ahead and take note that SOF is taking care of things that infantry should be doing, but given the no-fail mentality of every administration since Bush they're sending Rangers and SEALs to do what a platoon of Army or Marines infantrymen ought to be doing and could do just as well or perhaps even better since the cost wouldn't be as high in terms of waring out personnel.

When you see these things and realize them you may lament that it is too late to serve in another capacity. It is not dishonorable to be a grunt, but if you can do better then you should.

>>33909938
Which branch? All are different.

For Navy OCS you decide on three separate communities and your package is sent to a board.You take the ASTB and the scores are sent to the boards for consideration. Each community is vastly different and each have their own requirements and what they consider competitive. Just go through the application process myself and am currently waiting on an OCS date. I'll answer any questions if you guys have any.

For USMC you also go to a board but they take into account several other things other than grades. Mostly PFT score (shoot for above a 270 to have a shot) and various leadership and community service roles. I've seen people with 2.5's picked up. Keep in mind you won't get to choose your MOS until after OCS (unless air or law contract), where you compete with a bunch of studs at TBS.

Don't know shit about the Army.

For Airforce OTS, spend two years tracking down an Air Force Officer recruiter and jump through 8 billion hoops in order to put a package in.

>>33908105
12D

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While I'm physically healthy, did couch to 5k, and have decent banter, I am afraid of fucking up.

I want to join army, but I suck at basic manual tasks, I don't have that dexterity. I will be the guy that gets thrown out of basic for being incapable of folding clothes correctly.

How do I overcome this?

>>33912386
You can't be thrown out for being incapable of folding clothes, you'll be taught how to. You'll be fine anon.

It's funny that "fight for Israel" meme exists when basically every US deployment in the ME was to protect Arab interests

even saudis benefited more from 2003 Iraq invasion than Israel did

>>33912517
>every US deployment in the ME was to protect Arab interests
>even saudis benefited more from 2003 Iraq invasion than Israel did
funny thing about that, the Saudi Royal family are all kikes also

>>33912386
>Expecting to be thrown out for not being able to fold laundry
What is this, Joint Laundry Taskforce?

>>33898028
It's true.

t. 0351 Marine

>>33905821
What MOS' garrison life FUCKS ass?

>>33909255
I don't know if it's true or not. I ran into kids going into tradoc right after I did in 2007 who said that the drills weren't allowed to call it "smoking" because it implied hazing or some Shit and it had to be called caping "Corrective Action through Physical Exercise". It may have gone away by now but I heard it from multiple people who didn't know each other and went to different posts.

Okay but how much boat love is there really

>>33909970
post tits

Give it to me straight: compared to the civilian world how shady is the scene in the military?

>>33913277
What are you even asking?

>>33913277
It's shady if you have a POG job, you'll rarely have to be out in the sun

I'm thinking about dropping out of grad school and being a Nuke officer in the Navy, preferably submarines. any nuke officers on here? Or people that are applying?

>>33905231
No, I just like having something around my neck

>>33913701
He's asking if niggers who nig as much as him are allowed in the military, and the answer is yes, but only as janitors and cooks.

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Any SIGINT dudes in here? What's your typical workday like?

>>33912721

Is there a difference between the diff infantry MOS's during peacetime besides the type of training you do?

>>33914033
Sounds like he wants to go motorpool so he can hang out with his old buddies from the hood.

Army here. Swore in yesterday 4 years as HR, shipping out in two months, 11000 bonus, did I fuck up? Also will going to school be impossible while in the army full time? I know they have the go army ed thing but is it bullshit?

>>33914921
Not too shabby, sounds like what most of us who enlisted around now are getting. Got 16k for 4 years for 19D, shipping on Monday. If you like HR it's not bad. Wouldn't have picked it myself but if you enjoy that shit good for you.

>>33905520
>>33907560

Hey bro I'm in a similar situation right now
>be euro/asianfag
>came to US for college
>gonna go to grad school but thinking about to enlist mid way and let them pay for the rest of school after I get out
>kinda "fit" and speaks 3 languages (German/Chinese/English)
Does any branch recruit accounting majors? I believe that being a translator requires certain security clearance and as a foreigner we won't get it. But since I have a degree in business I thought I could work as some sort of financial analyst or accountant for the military.

Is it possible to start off as an infantryman and then become a POG once your original contract is up?

>>33915599

It's possible to reclass, but not guaranteed.

It's a much more stupid plan than you think it is.

If I'm 25 after graduating with my second Bachelors, will I be too much of an oldfag outsider to be a viable candidate for NG OCS or ANG OTS?

>>33915617
So is the POG shit just a meme, or is that the way to go?

>>33915681

The military is what you make of it. Most conventional combat arms guys sign up for it because they've romanticized it in their heads as dumb teenagers.

There's very little point in going infantry initially and trying to reclass after one term.

>>33915735
Alright, thanks m8

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>>33898008
>tfw not born in the US

What's the best way to join their military without MANVI (I'm from a English speaking white country)

>Go to US get BA
>Try get green card???

I just wanna fight for Israel goys

How hard is it to become a PJ? Any PJs here? What's training/the job like?

How do I get to become a RQ-20 Puma or RQ-11 Raven operator?

What's 68W like for the Army? Do I need to have any certifications before enlisting?

>>33916270

It depends on where you're at like everything else. No, you don't need certs to enlist, but if you have EMT done then you can skip part of 68W school.

>>33915920
PJs are unicorns but I know two, you have to be extremely fit to be one. You have to be a fish, have a lot of endurance, and be dexterous with your hands since you'll be an expert medic. It's hard, PJs have a high washout rate. If you're serious about being one then start swimming now, start running, and start doing calisthenics nearly every day of the week.

>>33908363
They might TELL you it's shit, but you won't TRULY understand until you're there. And that goes double if you wind up onna sub.

>>33915000

Nigga what? $16k enlistment bonus for first time enlistees? Is this just the Army or is it across all branches?

>>33907535
>You need to have a sense of humor about these things. A lot of people will give you shit for joining the armed forces and laughing it off is better than being an uptight cunt.
Dude, we used to have images that evoked patriotism, and other positive ideals.

Pictures with "muh dying for isreal", of nazis, lynchings, and other crap, is not at all related to the subject.

>>33900154
>Implying recruiters get bonuses for enlisting people

Just stop. You have absolutely no clue what youre talking about.

>>33915656
Are you 25 now, or are you saying once you get youre degree youll be 25?

If its the later, Youll be fine as long as you have good grades, are in excellent shape and are just an all arround attractive candidate. Anyone past 29 is pushing it and will prob need an age waiver. Its rare but it happens.

Will I get time to go to the gym and workout as infantry? Im currently skinny and i wanna change that

>>33917871
Yes there are gyms on every single base Ive ever been to. The quality of the equipment will vary depending on where youre stationed though, but for the most part the ones that are state side are state of the art.

>>33917871
You probably won't get time during work hours, but you'll have gym access in the evenings if you want to get swole.

>>33917893
>>33917895
Cool thanks

Anyone has any esperience as Master-at-arms or GunnersMate in the Navy?

>>33917721
There was a seasonal bonus for 19D being in high demand so 8k of the bonus was from that. 5k for going active duty and 3k for doing a 4 year contract.

Another guy at my office got a 20k bonus for an 11X contract a couple of months ago.

>>33899411
You're an adult and a man and she should respect you enough to allow you to do this no mater how much it upsets you. When I enlisted in the Army I told my parents it wasn't abut them, its about me and my life and taking my own direction. That simple.

>>33899578
Well if you're at Jackson they'd probably give you a hand job, but if you were at any other place where you are training to be a combat soldier, they'd laugh at you and smoke you for being a smart ass. Also make fun of you forever.

>>33900096
Boi you're gonna be a medic for the 82nd and get your asshole pounded at Ft Bragg

>>33900955
There are no centralized medical records. If you don't tell them about it, they won't know. Thanks HIPPA

>>33901995
Also Civil Affairs gets to do some cool stuff dude, don't bash an MOS if you don't know anything about it. Faggot.

>>33898052

You probably wont be deploying anytime soon. We're literally not doing anything.

t. Knower

>>33901339

RUN RUN RUN MOTHERFUCKER

And look up the Army stretching drills, when we fucked up on those we got smoked

>>33917721
I got 20k for 11x when I enlisted in 2016

>>33918250
The MAs at the site i work at walk around with M4s on their chest and shoot the shit.

Pretty easy job but dont count on combat

>>33918409
>I got $0 for 03xx

wtf I hate the marines now

>>33918478

If you were really concerned with money you would've picked a job with actual skills.

Is infantry a good MOS if I want to be a janitor later on?

>>33917721
At MEPs some dude got 40k to do 19D

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Which branch has the higher chances to get me on Japan? I want a Japanese gf!!

I want to go Airborne if/when I join the Army, and I'm stuck between if I want to go 68W, 35M, or 35F. What are the benefits of each one, and which one has the best career path. I know 68W sees combat, but do the other two do too?

>>33918718

All MOSs but a few can "see combat", but very few people see combat right now regardless of MOS. It's entirely possible you end up working in a non-deployable unit if you pick any of those three jobs.

That said, the best for career prospects among those three is probably 35F, depending on what you do during your contract.

I read somewhere that you can make
an agreement contract while at MEPS, giving the choice of the base were i would want to be stationed if you ask for it.

Is this true?

>>33918922

No, choice of first duty station is not generally an option at MEPS. They don't know if you're going to pass school and become qualified in your job, so they can't really project that until you get closer.

>>33918712
the JSDF

>>33918712
the Coast Guard

>>33918712
Go Air Force and put in for Japan and Korea. If you get Korea you can fly free via space available hops to play in Japan.

Also put in for anything in NATO. Europe is large fun and with the Wall down you can visit Eastern Europe.

>>33918987
Can Army get freedom like that too if they were stationed in Korea?

>>33918987

You can do this in the AF? Nice... Does Marines/Navy get the same option?

>>33918987
>>33919023
>>33919029

Any service can use Space-A flights, but it's not as easy as some people make it sound.

i'm about to enter my junior year in college for accounting and i've found out i'm getting fuck all for financial aid. i'll be turning 24, so my only choice is to go for private loans.

i eventually want to join the fbi and planned on joining the AF either way. i can defer my current loans for the two years i'm in, right? is cyber security an optimal role to go for?

>>33913701
He probably means gay hookups.

>>33919093
if you're going to join do not get a loan

>>33918718
I always hear that 68W is either the best or worst mos, depending on the person.

>>33917721
I got 40k for signing as 68N.

AF give any sign on bonuses?

>>33920181

For critically manned fields. Sign on bonuses shouldn't determine your career choice though.

How does switching branches in the DEP work? I've heard horror stories, but does it always go badly?

I'm supposed to go to boot camp at the end of this month but the marine glamour is starting to fade away as my ship date gets closer. Can I painlessly pull out 20 days before my ship date and switch to Army?

>>33920455

Just go to the recruiter in a different branch and tell them you want to transfer. The Marines will DEP loss you and will sit on your paperwork for a month or two though. It won't be a quick process, and the Marines will be mad, but it's well within your rights.

>>33920455
Going to MEPS today, applying in AF.
For the Airmen under the zone program, how is that effected if I start out as an E3 right out of BMT?
I have to wait about 2.5 years to use my GI bill, but i'm hoping to go to school much sooner than that. not sure how loan repayment is handled.

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>>33920528
>>33920455
didn't mean to reply

>>33920518
>sit on your paperwork for a month or two

What does this mean? Do I have to wait for this before I even talk to an Army recruiter or can I get a new ship date and lock in my job right away even if I have to wait a few months to ship?

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So i went to a Navy recruiter and they make me take a mock AFQT test. I scored horrible (60)... does that test holds any weight? because the only reason i got that low was for not using a calculator. Shit is easy as fuck but i am not used to work without a calculator and left high school 8 years ago.

The reason i am asking is because i have decided to enter the Air Force instead and i would need 65 for that. Which i am pretty sure i could get (easily) by studying basic math for one or two days.

>>33920739
if you scored that low on the mock test then you should put a lot more effort than studying for one or two days, math without a calculator isn't hard you're just out of practice. I highly recommend studying for a month or two so you can get the highest score you can get anon, the higher score you get the more opportunities you have.

>>33920739
>because the only reason i got that low was for not using a calculator

What the actual fuck. The test is to check your math skills WITHOUT using a calculator. That's the whole god damn point.

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>>33920768
>>33920786

Yes, i know. I know i could get way better results since the test is easy and i i knew how to answer every question, just not how to do it without a calculator; i forgot how to do it on paper, i just need to practice and refresh my memory, i just have not do it in a loooong time (Went to law school long time ago).

Its funny because while i type this, my recruiter called me and he keeps insisting my score was above average, which i either doubt or i have to accept that i am going to be surrounded by morons.

>>33920967
you don't have to accept shit if you put forth the effort into studying anon. practice math exercises without a calculator and grab that ASVAB for dummies book while you're at it. It contains a lot of the math that will be on the actual ASVAB.

>>33921050

Thanks anon, will do

>>33917862
Will be 25 and some change upon graduation. Thanks for the insight man.

>>33920739
>actually needing to study for the ASVAB
Nigga just don't be dumb, scored a 95 w/ a GT score of 129 w/o studying. Don't know why I went National Guard Infantry tho, desu.

>>33921337
>Don't know why I went National Guard Infantry tho, desu.
Because you're a baka

>>33921376
lol doesn't really matter tho, still get that dope ass free college. Also, doing ROTC to enter the dark side

>>33919072
"Space A" requires planning and patience (since you rely on an open seat turning up) but it works well enough that many vets use it solely or in combination with local flights to travel all over.

For example when I flew back to CONUS on mid-tour I got a hop to the west coast then went civilian to the east coast. You'd better have a credit card handy to ensure you make any deadlines but you can save considerable money. My strategy was always to have a fat leave balance and take leave when others in my unit weren't competing (holidays etc) and that worked great for getting my preferred thirty days in one block.

Another standard smart G.I. trick is to go into your last year of service with maximum accumulated leave and take terminal leave to use it up. If you can accumulate close to ninety days that's quite nice since you continue full pay and allowances while on leave transitioning into civilian life.

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>>33921416

>>33921395
Yeah man nothing wrong with that, though why did you choose the guard over regular army? Aside for going to college of course. Also are you going to go active duty army once you get your commission? Good luck anon.