/gq/ Gear Queer thread

>>33732666
Checked, satan

>>33732666
I want to get a 6b45, but do I need to get any specific plates? Or will it take standard 10x12 ESAPI plates?

>>33732720
sapis work.

>>33732736
Thanks fampai

>>33732666
Nice trips.

So I'm tired of waiting for John fucking Willis to ship my fucking belt, who makes a belt like his but actually ships their shit out?

>>33732769
>Buying from SOE
Enjoy your 1 year wait time, but it's ok because "It says on the website that there's a wait time" so that explains the totally reasonable 4 month+ wait time

Plate Carrier owner, when do you wear them. Thinking of buying a package from Spartan Armor Systems. I don't know where I would wear it though. Seems like it would sit in the trunk of my car until a shooting happens in my city.

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>>33732666
What color you goys like

>>33732844
Yeah, we're past that. I figured that was obvious when I said I was tired of waiting and asked for alternatives since there's nothing in the sticky about belts.

>>33732929
khaki or dark olive

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>>33732666
>tfw still stuck at AIT and can't be GQ
>have 3 months left
On the up side the Ruskie gear I ordered is at my house waiting on me. Just need a PC and plates. And maybe more 7.62 AK mags and a Krink... posting old old gear because its all I got

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>>33732929
OD

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>>33733150
AIT is misery. I was a Ft. Sam, and no amount of barbeque and shooting on the weekends made it alright. You an Intel guy?

>Busted my retro mag sleeve
>Life is pain

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>>33732929
Why not all of them? Just goofin, Dark Olive is best olive.

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>>33733314
fuckit, dark olive only for now i think. what about slicks in black?

>>33733343
My slick is in dark olive as well but if you intend it to be worn under something color shouldn't really matter a whole lot

>>33733370
mine is also, it just looks cool in black with certain kits. His new run of dark olive is IR remissive.

>>33733403
>IR remissive
whats that mean?

>>33733422
You know how cadpat has special shit that makes it harder to see in night vision? its something like that

>>33733403
Hold up, let me bust out my nvg see whats good

>>33733480
idk if its on the old run, would be dope if it is, he said "But now I work with a domestic factory on order of their fabrics in color dark olive with IR remission"

>>33733448
I'm pretty sure that's any mil camo. Multicam, or any mil digital camo.

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>>33733555
i could be retarded and you're probably right

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got some plates, can finally larp properly.

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>>33733502
It's not

>>33733605
rekt, we can try the new shipment too, hes saying it is so IDK

Okay so since GQ includes radios on occasion I figure this would be the place to ask.
Do you guys have any advice on listening to your radio over the EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE? I swear whenever I have to shoot without earpro I can't hear a fucking thing, be it footsteps, buddies, or my radio.

>>33733626
Earpiece, and stop shooting without earpro.

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I want to make an actually useful first aid kit. What are essentials for stopping a wound most likely caused by weapons fire?

I know some basic first aid from an EMT class I took 7 years ago but a lot of it has faded from memory. Is that quick clot shit any good?

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>>33732924
You missed the 15% off sale for tax relief anon.

>>33733905
Chest seals, Israeli bandages, and CAT tourniquets are pretty much the bread and butter of any IFAK geared towards gunfire.

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Hi

>>33733905
Chest seals, TQs, combat gauze, ETBs, and conventional rolled gauze are all good to have.

I suggest avoiding the powdered hemostatics. Combat gauze is the current gold standard for noon-compressable arterial bleeds.

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I figured this would be the best place to ask but, I'm a Marine and I'm looking for something to replace my issued MTV for daily use. I am attached to the MEU but CIF decided not to issue me a plate carrier so i'm stuck with this fucking awful thing. I want something to replace it that doesn't look super different but is more comfortable and gives better freedom of movement. I was looking into the Eagle Industries MMAC but i'm not actually sure if it's releasable or not which i am pretty sure is a no-go for flying on Helos off of the ship.

I was hoping /k/ could help me out. It's just got to be Coyote, and fit standard ESAPI front and side plates and preferably releasable.

>>33733914
Not a big deal, I'm picking them up with my tax return when they come in two weeks. Getting so much back, I am contemplating a ballistics mask, just because I can afford it for wonce.

>>33732666
Im debating something and just wanna run it through the autism spectrum before i pull the trigger.

Im getting a boltgun of some sort unless i find a socom16 ny comp.
If not then a mossberg scout in 308

Fav caliber is 308. (Actually 257 roberts but my 257 isnt comp with taco pouches)

I want a nice pack and battle belt first.
Thinking
Pack
>tad fast edc in black
The pack looks and operates amazingly. Ive wanted one for ever
Belt
>Hsgi suregrip in black possibly multicam or khaki.
Id put 2 308 mag pouches pistol mags KnifePistol setup and usually goodies. Buttpouch (maxpedition senpai) Ifak. Dump pouch
>whats a good dumppouch?
As well as a dropleg holster for either a jericho45, 1911, or a mp45

I have no clue what kind of carrier i want. I want:
Low profile.
Room for admin pouch and 308 magpouches preferably tacos.
Lightweight as possible

>helmet
This is a weird one. I see a lot of people with nonballistics. But honestly a helmet might not be my thing.

Probably gonna but the belt after. The months over.

I cant justify it until i get the rifle and pistol.
I only have the moss500 and a 22 ruger after i moved.

Also. Any reqs for 308 boltguns?

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>>33734320
I want this but my bank account would come to my house and put a pillow over my face

>>33734145
by default it's not releasable. Apparently there's a retrofit quick release kit but it's not that easy to find. maybe look into the eagle Aero plate carrier

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>>33734320
Def leaning toward a belt and pack

>>33734030
stop posting your memerig in every thread.

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So the Crye CS4 FR combat shirt is pretty nice. All I need now is a set of Crye combat pants and a set of peltors and I'm good to go for MSW NATO.

>>33734537
>$150 shirt
There is a point where price and reliablity cross and become just pointless.
I see maybe that for pants but a goddamn shirt? Nah.

>>33734145
Mayflower apc would be your best bet, coming from active duty muhreen

>>33734579
I forget. Is squid still a meme here?

>>33733945
>>33734116
Is there any one producer that makes a nice roomy velcro rip away molle pack with all the essentials for a reasonable price?

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>>33734579
Worth it

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>>33734732
>WHAT
>ARE
>THOOOOOOOOOOOOSEEEEE???
No serious those look like camo loafers

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>>33734732
Fucking hell. Id rather buy a gun with that moeny. Thats just me. U have the cash then spend it idgaf.

Anyone own any AICS mags?
I'm not sure what the difference is between Accurate Mag branded mags and AICS branded mags

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>>33734145
Try this. It uses a quad release buckle system which is 110x faster to reassemble than wire cable systems. Also, it's much more affordable than other systems.

https://armour-wear.com/shop/all/carriers/sparc-plate-carrier-only/

>>33734753
They're Crye Precision x Vans LXVI shoes. I got them when they were offered for a limited time on Crye's website several years ago.

>>33734777
>that picture
.... hmmm...
Also, if his dumb ass wants to go around stolen valoring the shit out of everything and playing soldier; someone else has the right to make money off him.

>>33735332
Jealousy detected

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>>33732666
nice digits

>>33735365
There is always one guy at every rifle course wearing that shit. It is fucking hilarious.

That and drinking out of a camel back for a 2 hour course while everyone else just has a bottle of water in a pouch. Get out of here lol

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>>33731022
Lemme blast it with my deagle.

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>>33734579
>not spending 350 dollars on a shirt
okay then :^)

>>33735365
>>33735332
I refuse to use current use camos.

I get enough questions and bullshit when i bring my damn maxpedition kodiak to work.

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>>33734777
>not having pyle of crye
additional okay then :^)

>>33735930
gibs me dat

>>33735930
Is crye worth the money?
how durable is it compared to average gear?

Cyre AVS vs SOFBAV from Eagle? they're comparatively priced but it seems impossible to find a SOFBAV in anything but multicam and if spec'd right the AVS seems cheaper.

>>33732666
What's the best chicom chest rig?

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>>33736267
type 81

4 ak mags or 8 ar mags, holds isreali bandages and radios in the grenade pockets.

the 56 is ok but you can carry less ammo. the extra two grenade pockets aren't worth it.

>>33736283
What about the Type 63?

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>>33736295
do you have a battle rifle?

the flaps will not close over any 30 round mag because they are too tall. you have to use the flap as a retention (pic related) it will not secure your mags in any real way nor will it protect them from dirt and mudd.

if you have a m14, FAL, G3, scar 17 then the 20 round mags will fit fine. i've seen people use them for 20 round mini 14 mags aswell.


what guns are you planning to use it with?

>>33736317
Just my basic bitch AR, a mix of PMAGS and GI's if that matters.

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>>33736333
i prefer the 81, i like that i can carry alot of ammo for an AR or a better amount for an AK then with the 56. If i had hand grenades or something i would probably feel differently. I just see the chest rig at my ammo source and if i am rolling with that and a camelbak then i have everything i need to hike light weight. I love chicoms because i can wear a rucksack with them when i go backpacking and the straps are so minimal i can't feel them.

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>>33736359
I'll definitely go for the 81 then, I mistakenly assumed that the retention on the 63 would be tight enough to not need the top straps.

As far as grenades go you could always make smoke grenades to stuff into the pouches, which are arguably more useful for civillians than frag grenades

>>33736391
you can buy premade smoke grenades from enola gay that work as good as military smoke grenades. they are like $15

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>>33736403
That really doesn't help him much unless they happen to fit into the pouch. If he makes his own he could use a sufficiently small canister to put the grenade in.

>>33736267
My 56 has 3 mags, some sks stripper clips, binos, a bandage and the last pouch will be for a some nade

>>33736209
AVS doesn't have side plate pockets that fit 6"x8" plates.

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>>33734513
>mfw we drove him off the first time but the ghost of chicoms past will continue to haunt this thread for the rest of eternity

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Next purchase gon' be 3x AICS .308 10 rnd mags, two AICS mag pouches and a .308 rnd wallet.
>tfw magazines $125 each here
/blog

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Sup QC, I'm looking for a plate carrier that has some throat protection; anyone have anything to suggest? Already plates and pouches and stuff.

Kind of like this but not some shitty airsoft garbage.

>>33737467
What you are looking for is an armor carrier. Maybe look into surplus IOTVs.

Protip, you will try actually shooting with the throat protection exactly one time. You will then understand why no one willingly uses it while dismounted.

>>33737526
For my line of work I need something that can carry all my shit and protect from spalding as the most common rounds used in attacks here are non-military rifles firing lead ball, or birdshot or 22; all of which tends to hit and expand throwing bits of metal into the throat and arms.

>>33737565
Ok. Then you definitely want an armor carrier. You may even be better off just skipping plates altogether. Mind if I ask what you do?

>>33737610
Is the difference between armor and plate carrier just size and beefiness? I am a member of a security company that works in south africa. Most everything we need is bought by us but money isn't really an issue.

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>>33737631
Armor carriers incorporate soft armor over the entire torso. Many include attachments to accommodate neck/arm/groin armor.

Pic related is one common example. Before you ask, yes you can get it in other patterns.

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>>33737684
Personal experience being infantry and using these - Do not waste your fucking money
These things are fucking ungodly uncomfortable after about 30 minutes and it just feels
like shit when compared to wearing a plate carrier. I recommend the SPCS if you want
army issued shit.

Pic somewhat related

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Some of my current shit.

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>>33737684
That looks pretty good. I'm going to talk to a few friends and see what they think, as they're the ones paying for it.
I loved my smaller and more handier LBT carrier but unfortunately it is unrecoverable.
Probably buy one or try to find one locally to check it out.
Thanks anon. Any other suggestions?

I was thinking possibly a shift 360; it sits high enough for ride alongs and a bit of running. Pic related.

>>33737710
Gotta protect that dick man. What carrier is the necked one? I don't really have the internet often so sorry if these are basic questions.

>>33737729
R-karbid cubano cortes. All of these additional protection pieces can be removed easily too.

>>33733626
Why do you shoot without earpro? Literally why? You know it will damage your hearing over time, and most likely give you eeeeeEEEEEE.
My uncle was born with extreme tinitus, which got worse as he got older. When he was 55 he literally had to tire himself out every day by cycling for hours, so he could fall asleep.

There is earpro that you can connect to radios as well, or comms that you can have in one ear and have earpro over it.

>>33737742
I was able to get a used russian ALICE style kit, a smosh in the past. Those side plates are open on the ones I can find? Stabbings are more common than shootings here. I would prefer to have my soft bits as covered as possible.

Do you have a source on this that isn't in russian? And doesn't have open sides?

>>33737467
FirstSpear has some good shit with their Siege-R and components

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>>33737773
Pic related

>>33733270
No, Ft. Gordon. I'm in Ordnance. 94 series life is suffering. I go to college an hour away from here but still a phase 4. At least I can go to the range.

>>33737773
Thanks anon I'll have a look at those too.
http://www.first-spear.com/product.php?productid=17519&cat=272&page=2 Seems like it has good coverage and can take a lot of these add ons like flak neck guards etc

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>>33737710
Nice carpet :^

>>33737783
Ft.Gordon is shit, at least everything is cheap.

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>>33737710
Very nice

>>33737779
Fuck that looks excellent actually. I still have my kit and a trunk full of pouches and options. A sinking boat took stole my and two friends gear, essentially; and we're all pining over what to replace it with. I made the choice of coming to 4chan and am not horribly disappointed.
Unfortunately we only have a few days to place any kind of orders.

>>33737804
Would def lool into it, not sure if there are any restrictions for only LE and Military, but I believe most is on sale. If not then you can find a lot of it on eBay. I know the Siege-R optimized is very popular amongst LE, personally only used the AAC, since I went for a lightweight setup, but I'm really satisfied with it.

https://youtu.be/KOa9XdSE9OU

>>33737838
Thanks. Shipping restrictions like that usually only apply to the US, and lightweight isn't really what I need. In most cases it's response necessary.

The AAC doesn't look bad at all.. I think I need to just browse for a bit. Ill stop back in a bit to see if anyone else has suggestions. Thanks a ton.

>>33737684
>wanting an IOTV

Don't. Hell most of us pull the soft inserts out. None of us wear the extra bullshit.

t. Line Medic

>>33737868
Oops, forgot to mention because I know how much you guys love jokes.
My buddy who is going around town to all the army navy stores keeps sending me pictures of airsoft vests that cont even have spots for actual plates and asking if he should get a few of them. I don't know how to tell him he's retarded.

>>33737872
Most of the munitions we encounter in my work are makeshift or improvised. Usually it's soft metal or soda cans melted down that flake insanely when hitting a protective plate. Even the double coated SAPIs. I've personally seen people get more fucked up from spalding than actually taking the hit. We encounter more home made firearms than actual machined rifles/pistols at a ratio of almost 4/5.

>>33737773
God tier recommendation.

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what light should i get for my sig 226?

>>33737941
X300U

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Looking for the custom holster place posted here like a month ago, wasnt in the sticky, Looking for something (preferably IWB but OWB is fine to) for my G19 with RDS.

Anyways heres my same old shit, LBE is a molle m83 from Twin Needle Tactical from NZ

>>33737998
Kt-mech

>>33737708
>>33737872
I present it as an example of the type, not the best of the available options.
>>33737783
I do not know that feel. My time in TRADOC was mercifully brief.
>Some people stayed in reception at medic school for months
>I was there less than a week

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>>33735970
gibs me money then

>>33735991
With crye just be aware that you're paying about 85% manufacturing costs and 15% brand name. The shit is very very high quality though, and I love it.

>>33738291
Not a single person i've met has said positive things about crye combat uniforms.
They all said the same thing, even with mild usage they tear apart after 3 days.
They were all airsofters playing in woodlands, mind you, so no high speed low drag stuff, just some dirt, gravel and thick spiny bushes.
Still, pretty disappointing to hear that such pricy uniforms would fall apart so soon.

This was a couple years back so im not up to speed with the latest versions, i would hope that's not the case anymore though.

Does anyone have any alice gear? I got some lc2 suspenders and a belt recently

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>>33738581
I have the whole 9 yards senpai. What do you need help with?

>>33733905
>>33733945
I think the new trend is to get soft-t wides instead of cats, at least for an ifak config. cats are hard to loop into a limb with only one hand, or impossible if say your hand was caught in something whereas the soft-t has a pretty simple hook/buckle thing and if anything has a much stronger metal windlass over the plastic cat one

I wouldn't hesitate to use cats if i was using them on someone else however, but for the same price it seems like soft-ts might be a better investment

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>>33738603
Just looking for some inspiration. I've picked up two rifle mag pouches, but I'm looking to get a pistol sometime soon. What are some good holsters that are compatible with a belt like this, but fit with the whole late 20th century aesthetic?

>>33738487
>not a single person I've met has positive things to say about Cryes
>tear apart after 3 days of pog use

Absolute bullshit.

>>33738897
Was looking to get an m9 btw

>>33738897
M12 style of course. Fits all GI belts, fully ambidextrous, and it'll comfortably secure any fullsize pistol that's around the same size as the M9, like CZs and 1911s

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>>33737892
>Spalding
I don't think I should listen to you.

>Usually it's soft metal or soda cans melted down that flake insanely when hitting a protective plate.
>Even the double coated SAPIs
>We encounter more home made firearms than actual machined rifles/pistols at a ratio of almost 4/5.
This all sounds horribly retarded, borderline like a ruse.

>>33738487
>Not a single person i've met has said positive things about crye combat uniforms.
This is definitely a ruse.

>>33738581
Outdated, but it works, I guess.

>>33738897
>Aesthetic
I really facepalm at recommendations for cosmetic instead of practical.

>What are some good holsters that are compatible with a belt like this
Do people really need to be spoonfed how to attach a holster to a belt?

>>33733626
>I swear whenever I have to shoot without earpro I can't hear a fucking thing, be it footsteps, buddies, or my radio.
>I have to shoot without earpro
When do you "HAVE" to shoot without earpro?

>>33738897
M12

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>>33738487
nice B8, here's a crye AC shirt i used every weekend for a year straight after getting it from a 3/75 guy who used it.

>>33738958
>I really facepalm at recommendations for cosmetic instead of practical.
You and me both.

>Do people really need to be spoonfed how to attach a holster to a belt?
never underestimate how stupid people can be.

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>>33739410
Same person ?

Is there anything like the D3CR chest rig that is compatible with ak74 mags and has full molle pals at the front?
I dig the small chest rig idea but i think i wont be able to fit all the other minor shit i usually carry in it.

>>33737941
Who is this person?

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>>33740400
M UL T I M E M E

That's a sick Helmet cover.

>>33738487
I can only wish that one day I'm in a unit that lets me deploy with my Crye's. They're some of the best gucci tactical ninja shit I've ever worn.

>>33740444
Go back to doing your homework. Bedtime soon.

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>>33732666
>willingly going to hang out as NATO
Shig
Dig
Do

>>33740835
I think ima ask the ukie for a test helmet too

>>33740931
Why would you abuse the faith of a small foreign company? They obviously arent making a whole bunch of money.

>>33740969
:^ didn't you do just that

>>33740981
I am actually going to shoot one because several people are interested in them. Once its shot I will probably donate it to local gear shop as a show piece. Im not trying to get a cheap helmet.

>>33740931
>>33740969
what kind of company just sells out stuff at a highly discounted rate just because you ask them to? are they trying to go out of business?

>>33740994
I wanna test one too though

>>33740999
I provided them with details and specifics for the testing I plan to do as well as a sample deliverable for a report they can use. After some back and forth we agreed on a testing methodology and use of said deliverable.
>>33741025
I get the feeling that you are just trying to abuse the system and get a cheap helmet. Thats really low.

>>33741047
Bruh I'm not, another guy and I were trying to test the chinese ones but they wouldn't sell to us. Since they are probably the same this will work.

>>33741063
Any reason me shooting a helmet isnt sufficient?

>>33741084
More than one test will insure it wasn't just a certain one sent to you? Idk man, I just wanna shoot a helmet. Wanted to do the same with a 6b47 but morev wouldn't facilitate

>>33741105
>insure it wasn't just a certain one sent to you?
Why would yours fair any better if it was also provided as a review sample?
>Idk man, I just wanna shoot a helmet.
Then go shoot an old kpot or PASGT they are far more exciting than new style aramid kevlar shooting.

Anyone have the infographic on bodyarmor? looking to get some plates but need some help. Should I get Level 4 or Level 3++(rated for greentip) about a pound difference between each level

>>33738958
>When do you "HAVE" to shoot without earpro?
Fucking retarded rangemaster at requalification. "YOU THINK YER GONNA HAVE TIME TO PUT IN HEARING PROTECTION IN FURFAIGHT BACK IN MY DAY-" Sort of guy.

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>>33741159
I always advocate for level 4 because of threats from higher velocity hunting rounds as well as the well known issues with steel

>>33741211
only issue is that my carrier says it can accept 10x12 and the company I was looking at only sells level 4 @ 9.5 x 12.5
also bodyarmor102 when?

>>33741251
> the company I was looking at only sells level 4 @ 9.5 x 12.5
What company?
>also bodyarmor102 when?
When I am less busy at work

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>>33741159
>>33741211

If you find a good lightweight armor that is in your price range, stops M193, M855, M80, 7.62x39 and the like, then go for it.

If you actually care about stopping AP black tip .30-06 well then yeah you need level IV.

My friend just bought some Dyneema/SiC Ceramic/Polyethylene that aren't rated Level IV, but IF they are multi hit rated for M80, M193, 7.62x39, and are around 4.4lbs per 10x12" plate. If they stop M855 I would be all over them.

Also someone buy my carrier and plates. Will ship.
https://denver.craigslist.org/for/6080609708.html

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>>33741311
>My friend
Post address and ill bring the black tip
>they are multi hit rated
Say it with me now;

All
NIJ
Standards
Require
Multiple
Hits

Any time I see someone bring up multi-hit I want to mult-hit them in the face.

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Hey just got pic related is the jacket on this supposed to fucking long as hell or did i fuck up?
It fits me in the arms and chest but its long as fuck

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>>33741342
Knew saying that buzz phrase would trigger you

I didn't bring up the fact that the non level IV plates were multi hit rated to take a potential stab at level IV, fallaciously implying that level IV isn't multi hit. I brought it up to that non NIJ rated plates can be multi hit as well.

Multi hit is a perfectly reasonable expectation to have of armor. As soon as you start talking about armor that isn't NIJ rated, you probably should be careful to include if it is multi hit or not.

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>>33740400
I don't own tropic.

>>33741285
DFNDR Armor

lightest level 4 ive found

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>>33741372
It ain't wrong being long.

Yes it should be long as fuck, the thinking is that you will be wearing layers under it and its better to error on the side of long
>>33741374
>can be multi hit as well
And here we get into non verified plates. This is the whole reason im shooting a ukranian helmet. While the NIJ standard could use some updating I much prefer a plate that has a 3rd party lab test it over inhouse testing.

>As soon as you start talking about armor that isn't NIJ rated, you probably should be careful to include if it is multi hit or not.
You put that shit in the bin or test a whole bunch of it.

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>>33741372
Is it gorka than yeah it is.
Suppose to be that way.

>Pic related

>>33741435
http://bulletproofme.com/RP-Level-4-Stand-Alone.html#SUPER-light

Lighter plates and your wallet will be lighter.

Honestly the DFNDR IV plates will probably be fine in a 10x12 carrier, fabric should have enough give. What carrier?

>>33741435
This looks neat:
https://www.dfndrarmor.com/product/level-iii-plus-plus-rifle-plate-body-armor/

>>33741205
You need to remember to bring your balls to the range.

Seriously. No competent NCO would pull that on junior Joes. Keep a spare set of earpro behind your rhino mount or something.

>>33741503
>III++
Why dont you get III+++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ? Its not NIJ tested but the manufacturer claims it can stop a meteorite

>>33741441
If they show me a video of it being shot a bunch of times and not having any penetration, I'm down for it. If some dude on a forum buys a plate, and shoots it and makes a write up, I'm down for it.
If they claim it will stop x, y, z, and some dude on youtube makes a video of it stopping x, y, and z, I'm down for it.

NIJ isn't about consumers, it is about government standards for government employees who need armor.

>>33741483
>>33741435
Absolute shit option. $1000 for a 5.5lb 10x12" level IV?

You can get ~6lb Level IV plates all over for as low as $400 for the pair.

Also I think we should skip shooting this coming Saturday. Weather looks shit.

>>33741545
Unsubstantiated claims are obviously not a good criteria for judging a product, but if they are truly substantiated, even if not by the NIJ, then that should be good enough for anyone.

>>33741566
Just because cleetus shoots at a plate with his handloads doesn't mean the company's claims are substantiated.

>>33741547
>NIJ isn't about consumers, it is about government standards for government employees who need armor.
NIJ standards predate the civilian armor trends so yeah thats obvious
>Absolute shit option.
You can pick 2 out of 3 when it comes to armor
>good protection
>cheap
>light weight
>Also I think we should skip shooting this coming Saturday. Weather looks shit.
Yeah we will see but I seriously doubt it will be as bad they predict. Its not like weather has stopped us before.
>>33741566
>but if they are truly substantiated
Define "substantiated"

>>33741483
>What carrier?
Verseidag Tacticum

>http://bulletproofme.com/RP-Level-4-Stand-Alone.html#SUPER-light
am I retarded or am I seeing these plates as 990 per plate?

>>33733343
What plate carrier is this? I dig it. I can see he's got the HSGI bleeder pouch and some random mag pouches on a MOLLE panel, but what's the carrier? Also is this legit Russian police or whatever, or an airsofter?

>>33733555
No, not all mil camo has NIR coating stuff sprayed on it or however they do it. A lot of it doesn't. CADPAT does, though.

What does /gq/ do for hydration? How much do you carry? What canteen, bladder, pouch, etc?

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>>33741710
Bladder on PC (that I don't have)
2-3L

Also anyone wanna buy or trade for a m-xl multicam ACU top?

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>>33741666
>Verseidag Tacticum
9.5x12.5 might be a little tight in that style of carrier. I would keep your eyes peeled for a different manufacturer's 10x12 lvl4 that fits your budget.
>>33741710
Camel back over/clipped to carrier
Nalgene in replenishment pack

>or inside carrier if im using battle jacket

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I have an SOE 1.5" cobra belt with velcro lining and was wondering what my options were for outer belts with molle
thanks

>>33741800
just found these
http://www.rmadefense.com/Level-IV-1199.asp
only 4.4lbs and cheaper than DFNDR

anyone have experience with RMA plates?

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>>33741441
>>33741448
Thanks guys

>>33734030
Need to be 18 to post

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>>33741837
>anyone have experience with RMA plates?
I have heard good things about them but single curve is trash and you will hate yourself for buying it.

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Debating on getting the 12.5 kino upper. Plastic handguard or BCM fancy rail?

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>>33741900
BCM hands down
>>33741801
Low profile or full sized?

>>33741912
low pro like your senshi

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GCode Softshell mag pouches came in.

>>33741916
Twin Needle, my friend.

>>33741916
>1.5"
>inner velcro
tyr tactical brokos hybrid potentially but you may be better off just selling it and getting a senshi or tyr gunfighter

>>33741710
Bladder worn as a backpack and a canteen on my harness for good measure.

>>33741974
I'll just go ahead and buy a senshi tBH

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>>33742027
a wise move

>>33742047
have you had a chance to look at your Russian meme laser through gen 3 nods yet?

>>33741710
>>33741766
>>33741981
I was hoping for specific details on the bladders and carriers.

>>33742047
What plates do you use personally?

>>33742058
Source bladder, any carrier honestly, They're gonna get torn up no matter what from leaning on it and rubbing it on stuff constantly.

>>33742058
Bladder is a camelbak and the canteen is surplus from my father.

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>>33741593
Obviously.
But the truth of that statement doesn't preclude the possibility for educated well meaning armor enthusiasts to conduct thought out and accurate tests of armor that is marketed to consumers.

>>33741604
So then shouldn't we as consumers be looking for other standards/testing paradigms to judge our armor purchase choices?

Dude I think it is going to be snowing and low 30s.

>Substantiated
You know it when you see it.

>>33741900
BCM rail.

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can't get a ronin senshi in medium sized woodland

>>33742339
And this is why I dont have a senshi
>>33742057
Yes
>>33742073
Ikea steel level 1 plates
>>33742149
>Dude I think it is going to be snowing and low 30s.
Why is this a problem?

>>33742417
I just got a ranger green warriors belt instead

>>33742149
the other standards (FBI, US Army, US SOCOM) are not available publicly. so good luck.

There's no reason why you can't come up with your own standard but frankly speaking most random gun enthusiasts know nothing about armor. The majority of the people with knowledge came by that knowledge through work for a manufacturer, for a testing lab, or for the government.

Either way don't expect your testing to reflect operational performance very closely. All of the weird and unintuitive testing requirements in the FBI, Army, and SOCOM protocols like point blank shots, temp testing, water immersion, chemical exposure, edge shots, BFD, etc. all exist for a reason.

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>>33742486
I have the same, you will be pleased with it
>could have picked it up in person except ronin tactics doesnt have a shop/storefront

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>>33732666
gonna actually make it to this one i hope
>>33733173
i approve of your stock
>>33734579
poorfag
>>33734732
those are the vans defcon or whatever right?
are they /comfy/
>>33735332
>wearing camo
>reeee stolen valor
>>33735682
were you the guy who was arguing with another guy on coolguygear on fb a couple of weeks ago about how you can't just buy the woodland cryes?
>>33737773
>>33737779
>>33737788
>>33737925
>>33737804
hello it me


>>33737831
is it worth selling my sleeper and going to one of those?
also aren't you blackanon?
>>33737998
>the kneepads
what the fuck are you even doing

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>>33742560
also
>>33735930
>not having pyle of crye
a pyle of crye is the best pile to have 2bh

>>33742557
you should have just showed up
is there anything better than ranger green honestly

>>33742655
>you should have just showed up
Their officially listed address is a PO Box, I mean I could have found the guys home address and asked for my belt but something tells me that would be a dumb idea.
>is there anything better than ranger green honestly
Not even close, ranger green is life.

>>33738897
M12 holster like everyone else says, slap a buttpack on and maybe another rifle pouch or 2 depending on what you're using the rig for. Also be sure to set up a way to keep the belt from riding up, like a leg harness thing or attach it to your inner belt.

>>33742674
>something tells me that would be a dumb idea
nah he doesn't seem very dangerous

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>>33742560
emod masterrace

>>33741889
source on the jacket in pic?

is it just for cold weather?

>>33743038
Arcteryx Atom SV
>is it just for cold weather?
Depends what you call cold. it is a really good jacket that self regulates well in my experience. I have worn it in warmer weather without issues but its not my first choice if I know its going to be warmer out.

>>33737790
is that lvoa?

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>>33742553
Good post.

>>33742417
Inclement operating is less fun.

Someone buy my carrier and plates. Will ship.

Dear /gq/

I just ordered 10x12" LVL 4 standalone plates from Armor Wear.

Will they fit in a plate carrier made for Medium size SAPIS? I plan on getting a ATS Aegis V2.

They offer the carrier that holds 10x12s, but the one that holds medium SAPIS is $25 cheaper on SKD.

If the difference is substantial I'll just suck it up and pay the money.

>>33743675
>Inclement operating is less fun.
Sounds like basic bitch shit
>>33743738
>Will they fit in a plate carrier made for Medium size SAPIS?
yes

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about to buy a Esstac DST Blow Out for this guy

y/n

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>>33743759
>not joining the STOMP master race
>not even HSGI blowout peon race
Not gucci/10

>>33743798
>HSGI blowout
not available in ranger green famalam

>>33743759
I've grown to love the one Esstac product I own.

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>>33743808
their green is good enough

>look at the medical pouch in this or >>33741441

>>33743871
i'll give her a go i guess, its only $40. once my holster comes in i'll get some larping pics.

>>33743456
no

>>33743759
LBT ifak mustard rice.

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Where can I cop me a Kryptek HSP D3CR in any Kryptek pattern? Last time I saw them in stock was in 2014, should I just wait out for some fag to put it up for sale on Ebay for a massively higher price?

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Just got my Type 97 and i'm considering picking up some PLA gear to go with it. Any suggestions on specific pieces / places to buy it?

>>33744821
Alibaba
Aliexpress
>>33744738
>lizard pattern
Im pretty sure they were a limited run

>>33744821
Royal Tiger

Hey.

Is it worth getting the polymer rifle plates these days? What gives me an ESAPI equivalent and who masks good ones?

>>33745531
UHMWPE plates are generally level 3 with some special threat rating ones available. They are thick, expensive and generally pretty heavy. They float so if you find yourself on a boat you may find them helpful but otherwise they a shit compared to ceramic.

>>33745634

Really? I thought they were lighter. How is the UHMWPE helmets doing for that matter?

>>33745634

>Poly plates are heavy

Except for the fact that polymor plates were specifically made to be ultra light, buoyant armor plates you got everything right.

Wait, what the fuck happened to K-SOG/Kratos SOG? Their website's down, and I can't find a trace of their social media shit, I just wanted to buy one of their combat sets.

>>33745681

They are lighter.

The methodology behind poly armor is pretty neat on how it uses the bullets own heat and friction to melt and form an apoxy around the bullet.

Basically the area of impact turns to hot glue and rapidly cools making a bullet proof plastic.

>>33742560
I don't get into the coolguygear bickering

>>33745799
> Basically the area of impact turns to hot glue and rapidly cools making a bullet proof plastic.

WTF, I call BS. UHMWPE is susceptible to high temperatures, which is why users are warned against exposing their UHMWPE plates to high temperatures, i.e. a hot car.

>>33744738
I don't know why you would want it in Kryptek but that's sold out everywhere

>>33746229

>"Unlike ceramic, these plates take advantage of the spin of a bullet to slow it down. "The bullet's friction creates heat, which partially melts the polyethylene until it stops the bullet," explains Olsen. Then once the bullet slows and eventually stops, the polyethylene cools and rehardens. Olsen compares the action to a self-cauterizing wound."

http://m.policemag.com/article/2433/understanding-armor-plates

>>33746302
kryptek kind of sucks because there's no matching velcro for it

>>33746412
that's what meme patches are for

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Talk me out of buying an MBC Russian D3CR fake and D3 flatpack clone for the cost of a real D3CR rig.

>>33733905
Looping back to this. Is there a nice solid sized good quality pack that is easy to rip off the carrier for easy application?

Like something with long ass molle velcro or is it pretty standard to undo the snap in metal buttons at the bottom and slide up?

>>33746846
i can't because i was thinking the same thing. i wrote to the seller that has them all on ebay this morning and says you can also get the kit to mount them on a plate carrier directly for 10 bucks, not a bad deal.

>>33747025
Now the question is, what color? I'm thinking about going with an OD Mayflower APC.

>>33737768
I'm gonna neck the next person that says Smosh or Spalding.

>>33737768
Also yes there's an American source coming in the next month or so.

I have a multicam TAP vest in like new condition and two kryptek TACO pistol pouches. How much should I throw these on eBay for?

>>33747054
Idk, i was oriented towards multicam, mostly because i usually use green tone uniforms and i wanted to break the colors instead of looking like a green blob, then again i don't have any OD rig now and it would be nice for a change.
However i dont think i'll get the backpack that goes with it, i really dislike the idea of not being able to reach contents on my own without taking off the whole thing, same reason i tend to avoid molle backpacks for plate carriers.

>>33747081
No reserve and make the buyer pay shipping. The market will do what it needs to.

>>33747081
>>33747342
Just make sure to put the right name when making the auction on ebay otherwise it will go unnoticed and you'll get nothing for it.
The more tags you use the better.

Spalding

>>33747058
smoshy spalding

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>>33747370
>>33747439

>>33747716
Spalding is truly the deadliest weapon in the urban battlefield.

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>>33747923

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>>33747370
>>33747439
>>33747716
Speaking of falling for this meme like a godamn fool.

My plate carrier comes in today. I am very excited to post pictures so I can be ridiculed for every selection I made.

>>33745775
Yeah they straight up died, they shut down all their online shit and disappeared.

>>33740969
When are going to write the article that you told them you were going to write?

Alright /GQ/, looking at buying a pair of tactical/jungle boots. Recs for under $100? Know of an awesome pair that would make a poorfag like me cough up more than $100?

>>33741843
r u a trap

>>33733270
> Fort Sam
>Misery

You are in literally the best AIT spot in the Army. Name a better place for AIT. Pro tip: you can't.

>>33748974
Salomon gtx 4d

>>33741128
>>33741084
Could you be anymore of a little bitch?

Maybe he will actually shoot a .44 at it since that's what it is rated for and you were a little bitch and wasn't going to do it because it's "unrealistic".

whats /gq/'s opinion on using rubber boots/wellingtons, i had this sudden epiphany that they could make a soldiers' life much easier, then again if it was such a good idea someone would have implemented it already.

do any of you actually use your radios for stuff?

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>>33735682
How well does reguar mc work in a northeast forrest?

>>33749369
*regular

>>33749264
I use mine for /k/ meets and bbwarz

>>33746389
I read that beforehand and it still sounds like BS.

>>33749228
I'd imagine it would be hot asf. Also a lot of hot spots and blisters for long rucks or outings. Also no breathability would result in the inside of the boot feeling like a swamp.

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>>33742560
>those are the vans defcon or whatever right? are they /comfy/

They're Crye Precision x Vans LXVI. I don't think that they're part of the Defcon line. They pretty comfortable.

>is it worth selling my sleeper and going to one of those?
also aren't you blackanon?

If you need something that's a low profile hybrid between the Sleeper and Siege R, then I'd say yes.

Yes, I am him.

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>>33746846
They ight niBBa

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R8 my small bb warz rig

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>>33743456
Yes, it's the rail

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It's here!

Took a little bit to install the tacos and cannibalize the shitty chest rig. I like the weight of it though. Feels solid but not like a burden.

>>33749264
find them pretty handy for scouting innawoods when we need to split up vehicle convoys to find a nice spot for the day
>>33746846
They are good to go for the most part. Which seller in specific did you have in mind?

I guess this is kinda gear related, could anyone recommend a good cleaning kit? All I have is an AR and a Sig 229, should I pick up my new of those universal kits or get separate ones?

>>33750964
Otis makes good kits but really anything will do for casual cleaning.

Ideally you should end up with
>brass rod + brushes
>pistol brush
>bore snakes
>patches
>solvent
>oil

>>33751087
Thanks for the heads up m8. Is it usually cheaper to buy it all individually?

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>>33749046
Things could have been worse, but I am a country boy from the frozen North. Humid and hot in a city full of women who are either obese or military is a no go for me.

>I probably should have gone after that Irish-Korean girl

>>33749228
A boot being quick-drying is more important than it being waterproof. Also, I imagine that getting a slip on boot to fit well enough for rucking seems tricky.
>>33749654
Exactly.
>>33750693
I like you. I fully understand the annoying that is using malice clips, so I am sorry to tell you this. You will end up taking the triple deckers off. Even the doubles kind of suck on a PC or chest rig. I have been down that road.

>>33751220
You're missing a knee pad

>>33751414
I only wear one in the field or during tactical basement operations. During halts/patrol base/treating/shooting/Instagram ops I habitually drop on the same side. Taking a knee on rocks with a ruck on made me a believer in the value of the things.

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Civilian here, got a question. With all the goretex multicam plate carrier operator pics I see, are field shirts like pic related even worn in combat nowadays? I'm operating off of the WW2-Vietnam era aesthetic when it was a field shirt, a jacket, a sling for the extra gear and you're off, I'm assuming nowadays only POGs wear pic related when on deployment?

>>33751553
By definition you're a POG so why even worry about it? Are you wanting to follow the trend that badly?

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>>33751553
If you're a spook :^)

>>33751628

terroristcore is effay as fuck.

>>33751628
Dr Pavel?

So are apendix holsters generally regarded as the best option for CC with a full size? Please no bully.

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>>33751857
I carry in one, but 4:30 is way more comfortable. It depends largely on your build and clothing choices.

>>33751884
Thanks.

Skinny manlet. Loose fitting jeans or cargo shorts.

>>33751890
Properly sized jeans that suit your build. I like fitted with boot cut legs myself. Cargo shorts are not my thing, but live your life.

>>33751930
It's extremely difficult to find the right sized jeans and even then size varies from make to make. Ah well. I'll look into attiring like a grown up more.

>>33751857
It's best for concealment and worst for comfort, so they say, but I don't find it uncomfortable.

>>33752151
Brand tantrums aside, Levi's line of stretch (not skinny) jeans are decent. They fit like their regular line, but have a fair bit of give. Bring your holster with you when you try stuff on.

>tfw bought PC
>but only want a micro fight now
>>33747947
ebin

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>>33737467
>https://armour-wear.com/shop/all/carriers/sparc-plate-carrier-only/

Ive got a russian 6b45 vest which has decent protection. Anyone else got anything similar/better?

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>>33751220
>You will end up taking the triple deckers off.
I hope not these fuckers are expensive. Luckily I didn't have to do the malice clips. Watched a few videos and prepared for hell but they shipped with a new version that was much easier to put on.

What's your thought on single/double/triples? What made you take them off?

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>>33737467
Redut-M

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>>33737565
>For my line of work I need something that can carry all my shit and protect from spalding as the most common rounds used in attacks here are non-military rifles firing lead ball, or birdshot or 22; all of which tends to hit and expand throwing bits of metal into the throat and arms.
Now that I am in on it I can appreciate how fucking funny it is that term is thrown around.

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WTF is this shit that I should come to

>>33752716
Leave my homeland. I claimed it from wagon burners fair and square. Please go back. Leave the tacos.

>>33752860
Fuck you I aint no type of nigger but what is this shit he speaks of I feel as if it involves airsoft am I correct in that thinking

>>33752381
What rifle is that?

should i attach my water source to my pc?

>>33752977
Milsim?

>want to get r-karbid pc
>look at payment methods
>clusterfuck of information
god damn dude their pouches and carriers look noice but I don't wanna do a bunch of bullshit

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>>33752984
Hakim

>>33752575
Singles are great for me. I use both ARs and AKs regularly, so they are a big time and money saver. I used to wear three double TACOs on my belt (two rifle/pistol and one double rifle). I ended up deleting the R/R because I never found myself actually needing four rifle mags in my emergency reload location, and the weight of two full mags messed with retention. Double deckers are very bulky to wear over plates, particularly when one remembers how thick TACOs already are. Prone gets weird when your stuff sticks out that far. Having all that stuff will also make crawling, going through damaged structures/vehicles, and working on anything like a downed guy or any admin tasks a chore.

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>>33743738
10 x 12s will NOT fit in a plate carrier sized specifically for medium plates. There is a reason why that carrier is made in both 10 x 12 and medium sizes. Think about it.

Medium: 9.5" x 12.5"

>>33743752
>yes
No, they will not. Why did you tell him yes?

>>33753349

Thanks man. I'll pay the extra $25 to order the medium carrier from ATS direct.

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does GT have inserts on his chest rig to retain the magazines? If so what does he use?

>>33753506

I've used Esstac KYWIs in the past. They slide right in and work really good. They're pretty great.

>>33753349
I dunno man, I crammed my 10x12s into my medium OCPC, JPC, AVS, and LV-MBAV. I think they'll work just fine.

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Also does anybody have part 1 of this image

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>>33753924

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>>33753077
>Having all that stuff will also make crawling, going through damaged structures/vehicles, and working on anything like a downed guy or any admin tasks a chore.
Yeah now that I have them on and worn it the whole day I can definitely understand how these could be a nuisance if you have to do anything other then stand and shoot. Crawling would be pretty much impossible except on flat grass and no obstructions. Plus I cannot see anything below me. I'm like a fat guy who can't see his own dick when my hands work below my waist.

I'll sit on it for now I guess. It isn't something I need for work. A range toy/home protection/SHTF kind of thing I bought just to know I have one. When I invest in a battle belt I can drop down to single mags and just spread them out.

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>>33753748
Some of those carriers have stretch fabric to accommodate slightly larger plates and the OCPC is slightly up sized (if I can remember correctly from their email message). IMHO when a company offers are carrier in both medium and 10 x 12 sizes, it's a warning sign. Why would they go though the trouble to offer both sizes? Better safe than sorry.

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How up-to-date is the OP pastebin?
Is Condor still shit?
just need a cheap plate carrier that takes soft SK1 (NIJ 3) and hard SK4 (NIJ 4) plates and has a quick release and their "enforcer" looks decent to me.

>>33753995
>>33753981
>>33753972

you rock senpai

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>>33754108
np pham

>>33754097
Lol, yes, it's still shit.

>>33754138
fugg

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>>33754007
>>33753077

>>33753604
Can you just slap the kydex into a pouch and have it fit or is the velcro needed to retain it.