/brg/ Battle Rifle General

>>33608108
Thread theme: https://youtu.be/D5drYkLiLI8

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>God Bleees our little hole

>>33604077
But wut color

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>>33608503
White

>>33608108
>God Bleees our little hole

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>>33608503
Fifty shades of Tan best SCAR

>>33608535
>>33608768
These are stupid.

>>33607021

>>33609106
Okay. What's your proposed alternative then?

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>>33609166
>inb4 PTR

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>>33609106
Be part of the solution, you know try to come up with a better answer, not be a sniveling little bitch.

>>33609189
>>33609166
Suck my cock.

Make eye contact.

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>>33609265
/brg/ is probably the gayest of all generals
Well /ak/ might be more so, but they are closeted as hell about it.

What is a good price to pay for a .308 garand. Or is that a meme and I should just get one in 30-06?

>>33608503
rhodieflage

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Thinking about getting a Rockola M14F now, for LARPing purposes.

Is the 19.25 inch barrel historically accurate for US service? Or should I just stick with the 22" barrel.

>>33609287
You're gay for reposting a picture of yourself from the last thread.

Why do you love that picture so?

>>33609315
22
18 if you're doing a Mk14 EBR (don't, they suck)

>>33609340
Nope just USGI M14 for lugging around while camping and maybe slaughtering hogs with.

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>>33609336
It makes me laugh

>>33609356
Tell me about your parents.

>>33609353
Then you'll want a 22" for your *"It Ain't Me" starts playing* needs.

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>>33609385
Why don't you post your BR first?

>>33609315
22'', it ain't you, it ain't you, you ain't no fortunate son (because you have an M14 and they suck).

>>33609479
Why do they suck?

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>>33609495

>>33609522
Absolutely none of that applies to the LRA gun I'm getting.

Now tell me, besides shitty Springfield products, why does the M14 suck?

>>33609522
Are they all shit? I wanted to get one to go with my m16a1

>>33609609
unreliable
heavy
hates sand, dirt, and mud
they probably have the most accuracy potential out of the Big 3 though
and they look cool

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>>33609495
The M14 is easily the worst of the legacy battle rifles.
It was only adopted vice the FAL because of NIH and it was dropped faster than any other US service rifle because it was obsolete before the first one rolled off the production line.
The modified Garand action is extremely vulnerable to dirt and mud, and the ergonomics are worse than an AK's, since at least the AK doesn't have its safety inside the trigger guard where it can easily cause an ND.
It's possible to accurize it, but only at great and continuous expense since shooting it regularly or even just rough handling will cause it to deaccurize itself.
A standard M1A is hundreds of dollars more expensive than a FAL or G3 of similar quality because it's a modified 1930s design rather than a 1950s design and requires a corresponding level of laborious and costly hand-fitting of its parts.

>>33609609
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrPjlcJ3rtY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYfGq1yk66Q

>>33609625
I'll get back to you guys on how my LRA turns out on reliability, I'm actually going to run it off the range and keep track of stoppages and round count, which will probably be a thousand or so rounds the first few months, which will be expensive but I enjoy magdumping.

>>33609625
PTRs go for 1200, which yeah is pretty cheap.

SA58s go for 1600-1800 which is only about 200-400 less than a quality M14.

The M14 isn't unreliable, SOCOM 16 abortions and new M1As are.

It's probably the most accurate legacy style .308 with irons too.

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>>33609166
If you got SCAR money, get a PTR MSG91 with a good scope, a bunch of mags, ammo and a trigger job/match trigger. Would run you about $2,000k for all that.

>>33609678
As long as it's bedded properly and you don't pick it up wrong

>>33609696
Nope stop. That's national match stuff where a quarter MOA throws a match.

USGI M14s didn't have massive accuracy problems and the sights are great

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Haters gonna hate

>>33609830
shim your gas system

its like $10

>>33609289
That is a meme and you should get one in 30-06

>>33609844
I didn't know anything about this; looking at some videos about it now. Thanks for the tip.

Best prices to expect for 30-06 Garands and .308 Garands, each?

I want one of each.

>>33609844
What and why?

>>33609933
be like the first anon and show initiative

or don't, I don't care

>>33609166
Is OD green an option? Though I don't like how some seems lighter/darker. It should be subdued shouldn't it? I don't like the mix master garbage collage look either.

What's good .308 for stockpiling that isn't steel cased?

>>33609976
German surplus 7.62 is still widely available

>>33609983
Corrosive?

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>>33609967
>I don't like the rifle's outline being pre-disrupted for my convenience, either.
consider suicide

>>33610018
I normally don't mind the random FDE colors but that upper receiver is pretty gross.

>>33610006
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=german+surplus+308+ammo

>>33610041
/brg/ truly is the most useless general

>>33610050
http://www.sgammo.com/product/308-win-762x51-ammo/960-round-case-762x51-nato-146-grain-fmj-hirtenberger-surplus-ammo-1970s

>non-corrosive

>>33610032
It's true, FDE anodizing fdoesn't photograph well.

>>33610050
It's funny because the first link that brings up answers your question.

>>33610050
>spoon feed me

no, fuckoff

I'm willing to help people, but not if you're not willing to the most basic of research: a fucking 5 second google search

>>33610081
>>33610087
Or I could ask a yes or no question.

If it was somthing complex, I would have looked into it myself.

>>33610006
all surplus ammo is corrosive until proven otherwise

>>33609712
http://looserounds.com/2015/01/30/the-m14-not-much-for-fighting-a-case-against-the-m14-legend/

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>>33610107
Jesus tripfags on /k/ are the worst

Into the filter you go

>>33610138
Y'know it's funny, despite all the bitching about the M14 the soldiers I've talked to it about never seem to have a big problem with it beyond weight.

>>33610150
what do those babykilling welfare queens know about guns

>>33610150
Because it wasn't used very long.

>>33610172
Yeah, I suppose rose-tinted glasses could play a big part of that.

>>33610070
>>33610125
dumb question but what does it mean for the shooter if ammo is corrosive?

>>33610203
In short- CLEAN FUCKING EVERYTHING THE VERY SECOND YOU CAN
Corrosive ammo will destroy your weapon, eat your dog, and fuck your wife if you don't.

>>33610203
It means you have to clean the bore after every time you shoot.

Not a big deal just a pain in the ass.

>>33610224
It's also a good idea to clean everything exposed to the carbon/salt clusterfuck that some corrosive ammo spews everywhere. Like this guy said

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>>33610203
Just rinse your entire gun out with hot water when you're done shooting.

>>33610235
I clean my guns entirely every time i shoot. Partly because I live in a place that rains 300 days a year and also because i enjoy it

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>>33610252
DELETE THIS

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>>33610252

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It's just slavshit
Nothing of value lost

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https://deserttech.com/mdr-update.php
Desert Tech sure has poor taste in April Fools' jokes.

>>33610534
>Ever believing Mormon cults

Ur all fags

>>33610607
That is not an inaccurate statement. I mean, we are on /k/ after all.

>>33609859
Thanks

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So is it OK to shoot steel cased ammo in a PTR91?

>>33611731
It's not okay to shoot steel cased or a ptr91, both together is just compounding the shame

>>33611742
Fuck off sakuya

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>>33611731
Yes, it's perfectly fine.

>>33611833
what about an M1A/m14?

>>33611927
I doubt they would handle it as well as a PTR but frankly I don't know.

>>33611944
M1A owner here, works without a hiccup.

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>>33611985
Cool beans then. I haven't shot an M1A anywhere near as much as the others.

>>33611985
What year M1A? I really want one but I might go with a JRA for 2k instead

What is with DSA FAL'S? Is the cast receiver being shit a meme for actual real world use (not full auto high round count)?

Can they handle steel or what?

>>33613175
New production, or at least relatively new now.
Been pretty great so far. Close to 1000 rounds in without a jam including reloads and steel case.
The only problem I've had is the charging handle biting the stock at first although that seems to have stopped since.

>>33613312
Modern cast is better than 90s forged. Your not going to hit a million rounds through any FAL receiver no matter the firing schedule, but you can expect a respectable service life. If you want to get a more robust receiver get Type II or III. Type III is uggo and heavy as fuck though.

>>33615516
Oh wow that's actually pretty interesting.

>>33608108
Someone give me an IMBEL GL receiver.

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>>33616379
I want one too.

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>have my CETME with 12 mags up for sale
>day 1 got offered a stainless Springfield GI 1911 with two mags and $175
Do I take it or stall and see what else I get offered? I've wanted a 1911.

>>33616903
Why are you selling in first place? Do you want money or a new gun or are you just cleaning up? If your the kinda guy that moves around from gun to gun will nilly, just go for it.

>Inb4 selling it cus it's a shit gun and you h8 it.

>>33616903
stainless steel gi is literally nigger tier. lowest tier model, but still paying extra to get it in stainless steel for the bling factor.

>>33612003
I am glad you liked shooting my rifle Georgiabro.

>>33616959
I traded a PSA/Anderson AR for it and all the mags loaded with brass cased .308. I'm mainly selling it because I don't shoot it often. I'd rather build/buy a FAL later.

>>33608108
Oh boy here goes.
>>33609315
If you want authenticity, go 22", if you want a good camp gun get the 19.25".
>>33609609
>>33609611
They are fine, capable rifles but there are good arguments that either a FAL, PTR-91 or AR-10 will give you a lot more for your money.
>>33609625
>Unreliable.
Something must be wrong with my "shit tier" Federal Ordnance model which ran 1,500 rounds with no cleaning in dust, mud and snow. Of course I wasn't submerging the thing on purpose like I retard, but it worked with minimal coaxing.
>Heavy
Son, it's a battle rifle. They weigh around 8-10 pounds. My Fed. Ord. weighed 8.25lb with a fiberglass stock and my M1A weighs about 9lbs with a USGI wooden one. I think with the same stock my Fed. had it would way about 8.5 due to the thicker cast op rod, but they are both 22" rifles. This is due to the government profile barrels. The match rifles definitely weigh more.

For a .308 battle rifle with a 22" barrel 8-9lb isn't bad at all. I've seen plenty of 16" AR-15s that weigh as much or more.
>hates sand, dirt and mud
Like anything else. Yes we've all seen the inrangetv videos. In my direct experience as long as you don't go full retard and intentionally go blowing debris into the gun it'll be fine. How many mudholes have you gone swimming in with your gun recently?

>>33617282
if he wanted a good camp gun he wouldn't be getting an M14

>>33609629
1) we all know the history. That is irrelevant to someone buying a civilian M1A or other M14gery.
2) Holds up to adverse conditions just fine if any degree of effort is put into keeping it sort of clean. Again going full retard and blowing dust into the gun or slathering it mud will cause problems, as it does with just about anything else.
3) Safety setup is debatable, IMO it allows easy carry with safety on, which can be disengaged as the rifle is shouldered right before the trigger pull. It's different if you're not used to it, but works great once you are.
4) Old school bedding is a headache which is why they have chassis systems now. Even then a basic bitch standard rifle will shoot better than you can and a hair better than the FAL and PTR, however I think a well built AR-10 has a substantial edge.
5) Yes they are expensive because it's an inefficient design that requires a lot of different machines and a lot of milling time. Value is by far the M14's biggest weakness.
>>33609967
With cerakote any color is an option.
>>33609976
PRVI Partizan. Runs great in literally everything I've ever shot it out of. Dirt cheap. Has red sealant around primers. Reasonably accurate too.

I've also been stocking any MKEK and Perfecta I could find, since I often find it for .50-.45 per trigger pull. Not the most accurate but it is great plinking fodder. I've also run a fuckload of steel out of my M14s and they don't give a fuck.
>>33610006
DAG and MEN isn't corrosive.
Also you should have a chrome lined barrel if I'm not mistaken.
>>33610203
Salt based primer compound. Longer shelf life and cheaper, but they leave residue that collects ambient moisture and promotes rust. It's why a lot of countries started using chrome lining. If your gun doesn't have it and you shoot corrosive ammo you need to clean it within at most a day after shooting. A quick burst of windex immediately after shooting helps too.
>>33610252
Detailed strip, Hoppes #9 and 0000 steel wool.

>>33611731
Yep, they don't care.
>>33611944
I ran 1500 rounds out of my old M14A, about half of which was steel cased. It didn't give a fuck.
My current M1A doesn't give a fuck either.

Note both have USGI chrome lined barrels. I don't know if a standard off the shelf modern M1A will do the same.
>>33616903
How much are you asking for it? I'd reckon he's offering you 600-700 in trade value. If you want more than that I'd counter-offer asking for more money on top.

>>33617430
Asking $750 but accepting $650.

>>33617282
>>33617388
>>33617430
Wumbo is best tripfag

>>33617485
I'd try to weedle a bit more out of him, perhaps some extra mags or ammo, but overall sounds like this deal is up your alley.

>>33618121
Alright. The only reason I'm a little tentative and didn't jump on it right away is next week I'm buying a USP 45t. So I'd have two new .45 handguns. Guess it wouldn't be a bad time to get into reloading too.

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this is the ideal 308 muzzle break. you may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like.

>>33618701
Did giddy make that for you with his Dremel?

>>33608108
How unpleasant is a SCAR 17S with the PWS brake at an indoor range with double earpro?

>>33621277
I can say my PTR with a brake indoors with impact sports aint shit and I dont give a fuck about other shooters

>go to gun range
>indoor range
>complain about the noise

all part of the package normies

My L1A1 rear sight has grown a bit wiggly and there's no way to tighten that particular part. Is there any sort of inch-pattern replacement rear sight? And if so, what are the options? I'm not finding anything on Google.

>>33622989
buy a normal FAL

>>33624427
Guess a rail it is then.

>>33624789
RMR on a rear sight dovetail rail is a pretty slick setup if you don't care about shooting at long range (which you obviously don't, if you're running a FAL)
https://www.dsarms.com/p-16063-fal-sa58-picatinny-alloy-insert-for-rear-sight-on-lower-trigger-frame.aspx

>>33626967
What's the weight difference between those with empty mags?

>>33629109
/brg/ btfo

PTR wins again

>>33609916
bump

>>33608108
Alright /brg/ you've become a mercenary light infantryman in a third world shithole and are being forced to take battle rifle, how many rounds do you carry on patrol?

>>33629774
100. Sidearm or no?

>>33629790
Sidearm is a revolver or semi automatic pistol of your choice. Or none should you choose to go without.

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>tfw you can only use this rifle with precision with the winter trigger

Man, the normal trigger does get some time to get used to.

I have an M1A Scout, and I've been quite pleased with it overall. However, I did notice a series of weird failures to cycle when a friend of mine tried shooting it. We eventually discovered that his support hand was rubbing just a bit against the slide (attached to the opearting rod) which peeks through the right side of the stock, under the handguard. When he moved his hand away from this area while shooting, the gun cycled fine.

Is this normal behavior for an M1A? I was surprised that 1) my friend didn't notice the slide pinching/abrading his fingers on each shot, and that 2) the amount of friction his hand did impart was enough to short-stroke the gun.

>>33629959
If he was gripping pretty hard yeah I could see that happening.

>>33629959
M14: The iPhone 4 of battle rifles.

>>33616379
>>33616392
just sayin...
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=403518&page=6

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>>33631357
I'm already one of the people that commented and stated interest in another group buy.

>>33631474
Yeah it looks good, but we still need ~100 people. When we reach that number hopefully the same guy will organize it.

>>33609685
2000000?
Fuck nigga where u shoppin

>>33618701
Check your pm's in YT

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>>33611833
Damn now i want to put slots in my handguard. also before everyone jumps on my scope im just waiting on a new rail for it

>>33616903
I have a Colt series 80 1911 I'm looking to part with. Email me if you're interested in a trade

[email protected]

Bought one of the L1A1 spotter abominations with the non threaded barrel and butthole stock, what's it gonna take to get a real stock and pistol grip back on there?

I read something about a grip bolt being frequently cut off for the conversion? What do they mean by this?

Been thinking about buying a fal for sometime as all of my funs are WWII bolt actions. Anyone recomend something nice good for a first time """"""modern gun""""""" rifle.

>>33635203
>FAL
>modern
Get a SCAR.

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Frog Master Race

>>33635083
http://www.arizonaresponsesystems.com/notes/notes-fal-tut-thumbhole/notes-fal-tut-thumbhole.html

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>>33635663
I'm not sure what genitals you have but I really want to mash my face into the area of your skin between the anus and balls/vagina. Maybe even go shooting afterwards

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>>33608108

>>33636778
>>33636787
>>33636806
Why did you post those here?

>>33636936
Not him, but because it's the greatest battle implement ever devised?

>>33636970
I think he means because they show up in every wallpaper thread.

>>33636936
oh bless your heart! you might be on the wrong board. The M1 Garand (the guns in question) was used by the Americans during World war 2 as their main battle rifle, very popular rifle around here.

>>33636970
>>33637586
>no detachable mag
>no select fire
Nope

>>33637645
Select fire is not a requirement.
Not certain about the detachable mag though.

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>>33635857
In general French rifles are good.

>>33637711
>and yet another trap
cool.

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I'm sure it's been asked before, but I wasn't around to see it.

Is it a battle rifle? or is x39 too short ranged?

>>33637684
full power cartridge, magazine fed, usually semi auto.
>>33637761
intermediate cartridge disqualifies

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latest build for me.

>>33637761
Sorry man, intermediate cartridge most certainly disqualifies.
>>33637775
I dunno man, just seems wrong to leave out the M1, G40, and SVT. Maybe there's a different term that applies?

>>33637789
Oh that's nice! What rail and scope setup are you using there?

>>33637830
it's an M25 built by LRB Arms in NY so the rail attachment locations are forged into the receiver. The rail is just a standard 20 MOA rail and the scope is a Vortex Razor HD Gen II 3-18x50 in a Spuhr 4001

>>33637914
Very nice. I've been wondering about those receivers, you think it was worth the price?

>>33637807
Those three are all battle rifles. Both under the old definition and the new one.
People saying detachable mag and select fire are requirements are retards.

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>>33637934
yeah they're pretty fucking expensive but I think they did a great job on the build, most people have trouble keeping these guns (at least your run of the mill M14) even close to a 1 MOA gun but this prints groups under and a shade over 1 MOA and this is just the first stages of experimenting with it for me.

top group was a cold bore shot (at 2 o'clock) followed by 3 more shots with 175 gr FGMM ammo. the 3 shot group is sub MOA

below that is a 5 shot group of 168 gr SMK handloads that came in a bit over 1 MOA.

bottom 3 are all handloads with the best being the 5 shot group of 175 SMKs that was a 3/4 MOA group

Let's say I have the choice between buying a PTR GI R, some DSA FAL or Imbel kit, or a SCAR. Are there any features save for the rail which make the SCAR better than an older rifle design?

>>33637775
>usually semiauto
Yeah, just like the FAL, G3, M14, SCAR, and classic AR10.

>>33637991
It weighs a lot less.

>>33637980
Not bad at all, thanks for the info.

>>33637991
>Are there any features save for the rail which make the SCAR better than an older rifle design?
Lighter, more reliable, integral folding stock, ambidextrous controls.

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>>33637991
Memes

>>33638102
Your forgetting more accurate, more ergonomic, pretty damn good aftermarket support, current factory support, etc

>>33638357
How is the aftermarket support? Genuinely curious here since she seems like an almost boutique gun around here.

>>33638357
>>33638284
>>33638102
>>33638038
Cool, thanks for the info anons. I still find the ugg boot weird though- prefer the fall stock look. But that's such a small detail in the scheme of things.

>>33638404
Four? Five? companies make magazine
More make handguard extensions.
Three companies on trigger housings, about the same on triggers.
Two to market with barrels, four more trying.
Even heard about people working on aftermarket uppers.
Stock adapters, FCG, right side throw levers, charging handles, etc. all over.

>>33638447
That's a lot more than I thought. Thanks anon.

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>>33638438
So dont put the boot on it.
But boot is best

Anyone have experience with this M14 scope mount?
http://www.gdiengineering.com/store/products/g1-0sm-optical-sight-mount-275.html
Looking at options right now and this seems to be a pretty good one.

>>33638170

Stop, I can only get so erect.

>>33638478
It's like a movie prop gun for outer space wars. Classic.

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Anybody else want an M14 just like in BHD despite hating everything else about the M14?

>>33630521

Yeah, it was annoying when I we figured it out. I think a full-size M1A would have the same problem, as the gas port's in the same spot. Then again, I hadn't deep-cleaned the rifle recently...

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>>33629250
This, others just can't compete.

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>>33629250
False.

Gun Jesus said the Stgw 57 was better.

Suck on it.

>>33640633
>FAL fags really believe this
have fun with your gay euro AK

>>33640633
>taking opinions from a man who says fal as a word
>taking battle rifle opinions from a man who can't shoot an fal for shit
no thx

>>33640642
FAL?

I'm a Stgw57fag not a FALfag, those are two different rifles anon.

>>33640654
I was just making a general statement that the PTR91 blows the FAL out of the water in terms of literally everything.

21" Fal, unsure of parts origin, built on an enterprise. Black plastic stock w/german/austrian type handguards. $750, probably doesnt come with a magazine.

is this a good first .308? if not im either going full meme $1600 DSA 21" or for a ptr GI (and green wide handguards)

>>33616379
>>33616392

Lol people would still complain that its a type 3 rec. Like it matters. People will talk shit about anything so just buy any one receiver and finish your rifle. Unless due to your particular brand of autism you need it like that then carry on, I did.

>>33616903
Springfield pfft.
Trade it for a rifle at least man.

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>>33626967
My deeeeek

>>33611731
WTF... Steel cased is the ONLY thing you should shoot in a PTR. You aren't reloading at those prices and you can buy a new barrel with your savings by the time you shoot your old one out.

>>33640633
Did he mud test it?

>>33640628
Buy PTR but don't buy that... They want so much extra cash for a bipod and a stock. Easy to turn an 18 inch bbl basic bitch into that for cheap

>>33640933
I'm not, I already realized the jew. That shit saved me like 500 bucks.

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>>33640863
I want an Imbel receiver to go with my Imbel kit.

>>33640646
Not his fault DSA is shit. Their FAL would FTF on the first round if the mag had the full 20 in it. They had to download to 19.

>>33641108
I'm talking strictly on his ability to be able to handle the rifle. In one of his 2gun videos with it he's shooting at a target like 15(?) yards away and it takes him like 5-6 seconds to line up a shot, it's fucking ridiculous. Same with the 100 yard shots, just takes him forever to do anything with it

>>33641126
Ian definitely isn't as proficiwnt a shooter as Karl is, but then that's probably why his channel is based on history rather than actual shooting.

>>33641126
I just watched the video again, it's not quite as long as I remembered it but two engage to man sized targets at like 10-15 yards it took him almost almost 6 seconds to fire 4 shots and like 2 some seconds to get the first off

>>33641152
I know, but it pisses me off because he puts fault on the rifle being hard to use, when it really isn't

>>33641156
Fuck me I watched the video again to see his shooting and stayed for the talk again, I almost forgot this gem
>the fal is harder than the g3 to scope
>there's no method of mounting optics to the fal
>you can't weld a rail to the top
>there's no forward assist
They make it so hard to listen to them about literally anything when it comes to FALs

>>33641208
>No forward assist is a complaint
>Doesn't put one on his ideal AR-15
Hmmm.

>>33641236
>>Doesn't put one on his ideal AR-15
wdhmbt

And I meant the FA as he could get a sandcut carrier and charging handle and have FA. This is like having a slabside AR-15 and bitching about the entire AR platform not having FA

So lemme get this straight

You guys recommend DSA FALs, but then bitch about their quality in the same thread?

Seems kinda off

>>33641364
DSA forged FALs, not Voyagers. DSA and Coonan both seem to have had spec problems lately, moreso with Coonan than anybody else though. Everybody agrees that old DSA stuff is top quality for what you can get in the US tho

It's nuanced as fuck, try to find a DS prefix/DSA LMT receiver if possible and you'll have 0 problems

>>33641371
Does DSA still do forged receivers? I saw one of their reps on FALfiles say they stopped.

>>33641248
>wdhmbt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI5NPiicXjE

>>33641934
Looks mostly cast now, with a few specialty forged receivers: https://www.dsarms.com/c-830-upper-receivers.aspx

Also forged R1 receivers are back!

>>33608108
Does my .308 VEPR w/ folding stock and foregrip count?

>>33643361
They did a run of forged last year. Blew through them fairly quick.

DSA has been sliding on QC for awhile now. PTR has recently too

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Anyone got a source for stock/pistol grip to uncuck this poor raifu?

>>33644687
Try looking at your options. There are a lot of them.

>>33644885
That's the thing, I've found a couple different sets for inch pattern rifles, I'm just not sure which to go with

>>33644905
Whatever makes your dick the hardest.

Or get them all and play dress up with your rifle. I do that shit

>>33644936
I'm torn between nice, expensive wood, or just plastic furniture and rhodie painting it

>>33644997
I'd say the wood because you prefaced it with nice, and the rhodieboo paint you preface with just.

You seem to prefer the wood.

>>33645067
I know the wood would look nice, but my autism gives me a hardon for rhodie.

Plus I don't know if this century abortion is worth expensive furniture

Why do most amerfats litter their shooting-grounds with plastic garbage

>>33645101
I never understood the rhodieboo dream. That said, shoot 500 rounds through it, fix any issues that come up before dropping money. CAI can be awful to fix, easy to fix, some don't need fixing.

Find out what you've got first

>>33645141
That's poor people the world over.

>>33645150
Yeah that's probably a good idea

>>33610252
Delet

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What's the call on this? I think I'm gonna pull the trigger on it Tuesday

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>>33648600
Good stuff. Do it.

>>33648600

wait can I buy a full blown FAL for 500 bucks?

>>33648636
Well you need a lower and some tools to assemble the kit

>>33648636
What part of that post gave you that impression? Was it the part where it said "Parts Kit" at the top or the picture of the parts with no receiver?

>>33648653

>or the picture of the parts with no receiver?

what makes you think I don't have an FAL receiver right now? I mean I don't since I am a fucking pleb but you'd look like a fool if I did.

>>33648681
Well you still wouldn't have been buying a "full blown FAL" for $500.

>>33648688

yeah I know that now once I read the link

>>33648681
You wouldn't be asking that question if you didn't have the receiver, oh, and the 922(r) compliance parts.

>>33648699
>the 922(r) compliance parts.
faggot

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>>33648699
>922(r) compliance parts

>>33648708
Your posting in /brg/

>>33648681
>>33648636

You're a fool and there's no way anyone else would have looked like a fool along with you.

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>>33637711
>mfw I'll never go on a range date with a qt trap
>I'll never get to shoot her lebel
>I'll never get to lovingly pack a baguette picnic to bring along to the range

JUST!

>>33608108
What does /k/ think of the DPMS LR-308?

>>33654242
It's not as bad as you'd expect a DPMS to be, but you'd really be much better off with an M&P10.

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Noob questions inc. Is an AR-10 still considered an assault rifle or does it belong here? If not, what are the defining differences between battle rifles and assault rifles?

>>33657200
Also, anyone have experience with palmetto state armory? They have an AR-10 minus lower for 600. Is this inexpensive or just plain garbage?

>>33657200
The AR 10 and variants thereof are chambered in a full size rifle cartridge and are self loading so yeah they count.

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>>33655563
Those rail covers trigger me. Flags aren't a decoration, shitbird.

>>33657403
They aren't?

>>33657295
Thanks

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>>33657403
>Flags aren't a decoration

What flag? I see red, white and blue you freedom-hating shitlord.

I suppose you hate freedom bunting, also.

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God damn I want a qt trap waifu more than anything! Too bad a qt trap waifu doesn't want me more than anything;_; P-plz Elsa give me a chance!

>>33658653
wut?

Anyway does anyone have experience with that adjustable gas plug for the Garand? If it like the FAL where it needs dialed or is more like the self adjusting cut off from the M1A?

>>33658817
I'll tell you if you go on a date with me

>>33658817
why don't you google it retard, don't tell me you own these guns without knowing shit about them or at least having the agency to look shit up.

>>33658882
Shit taste friend.
>>33658911
I just kind of assumed if its use wasn't detailed on the page selling it. Well alright then I suppose you've got me there. You're still a dick though.

>>33658934
Are you the qt with the French guns? I'll at least be nice to you and scower the furthest corners of the internet to help you if you notice me

>>33658934
fuck off mate

>>33658956
Not that person, sorry man.

>>33658976
Christ man who pissed in your coffee this morning?

>>33637789
Honestly man, with that kind of money sunk into it why not just get a SCAR and save yourself the trouble.

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>>33654242
>What does /k/ think of the DPMS LR-308?
I only got one reply to this.
How about some more comments on the DPMS LR-308.
pic related from same rifle, hand loads.

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>>33658653
It's only a matter of time before all men are on tren or HRT.
You'll get your qt tradwife eventually.

>>33659221
They are amazingly accurate for their price point, with almost all examples being sub-MOA 5-shot groups with 168gr FGMM.

They take a fair amount of AR15 parts (though the G2 takes more while retaining the same accuracy and weighing significantly less).

They're the second lightest of the current crop of battle rifles, at a pound lighter than the SCAR and 3lbs lighter than the 417 (only beaten by the DPMS G2, which is ~1lb lighter still).

>>33608129
I unironically like this song.

>>33659353
Yes, accurate and fun to shoot. I wouldn't want to have to carry it all day.

>>33641031
I still think that patch should have said Best Girl Of the Free World.

>>33659604
>Best girl
>Not the full auto machine pun
Come on anon.
(Though yeah that patch is awkwardly worded)

>>33658956
I'd check in the "French Guns" thread.

>>33659812
the queen gun, of machine puns, already has her perfect patch.

>>33648600
These kits are pretty good. The bore on mine is perfect, but the exposed exterior and muzzle device is overcleaned so that almost all the parkerization is gone. All the other parts have minor wear but otherwise fine and functional. Do it.

Depending on what options you want he's selling em cheaper on the files:
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=411567

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>>33640701
He was talking about the Stgw you spastic fuck

>>33640701
Except that the ptr is literally the worst of all the battle rifles.

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>>33662517
>literally the worst of all the battle rifles
that'd be the M14

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>>33660139
I was unaware of that. Thanks for saving me some money, Anon

>>33663313
The M14 at least looks nice

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>>33663313
D-delete this!

>>33664099
Too bad that's all it does.

>>33665418
Would be nice if it was more. But it's not. Still better buy than a ptr

>>33665454
It's really not. You pay a few hundred more for a rifle that will perform the same and be much less reliable. If looks outweigh the negatives to it, then do what makes you happy.

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>DSA is now making titanium FAL receivers

someone tell me why the fuck this is a thing

>>33665480
weight

you dolt

>>33665480
The FAL stuff isn't out yet

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>>33609655

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>>33610107
Are all tripfags backwards like you?
I mean you ask things you could google and google things that are better elaborated in conversation or you seek out an identity on an anonymoose board.
I mean I thought you guys were attention whores not retarded.

>308
>semi auto
>not-stamped receiver

Is the galil my best option?

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>>33665953
Having a .308 Galil would be cool but I'd say an FAL would be a better choice.

>>33665953
>best option
SCAR 17

>>33666032
I should have added
>not a scar

That's just too easy

>>33666086
A 308 AR
Think SR25 or MWS

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Anyone see this? How was it?

>>33667226
Not the best thing ever, but pretty good anyway. Definitely worth a watch.

>>33667226
Pretty good except for one part where they tell a guy to use a Bren instead of a scoped Enfield to make a longer distance shot. It really didn't make much sense to me.

>>33667272

it makes sense, bren is heavier and more stable when fired on semi-auto

one of my longest shots was on a belt fed .50 on semi-auto, went out to 1200+ meters using a T&E mount, machineguns are more accurate than they are given credit for

it was proably the sniper's personal preference to use a bren over an enfield, however a bren is twice the weight and is not as practical for a sniper moving in and out of concealment/cover

>>33667517
I can understand that. I mean, some of the longest shots of all time were made with an M2. I just don't think there was that much of a reason to going from a perfectly adequate scoped rifle to the irons on the Bren. It wasn't a particularly long shot though. If I remember right, it wasn't the shooter that requested it, but I may just be misremembering it.

https://www.rkguns.com/sig-sauer-sig716-dmr-308-win-7-62-nato-semi-automatic-rifle-r716-h18b-dmr.html

is this base rifle any good?

>>33668657
get a SCAR

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>>33665480
I'm afraid to ask how much.

Just picked up a Polytech M14 for $950, pretty accurate. M1A faggots can suck shit, this thing's just as good as yours.

>>33665454
FAL fanbois are the fucking worst.

>>33668657
>10.3lbs
>sig
no

>>33665480
We've reached a point in the titanium market where it's plentiful enough and reasonably practical to work with so now everyone has to titaniumize all the things to stay afloat.
Thanks, technological-industrial capitalism.

>>33669089
I find sheet metal rifle povertyfags to
A. Have the sweetest tears
B. React incoherently when confronted
C. Fixate on magazine cost

>>33668974
M1A faggot here, I'm happy you picked up such a good deal. We're all in the fight against complete irrelevancy together.

>>33669148
How does it compare to steel besides weight and difficulty to manufacture? Sorry, I'm not a metallurgist.

>>33669283
More prone to elastic deformation, less so on plastic deformation. Means it would make a shit barrel, but for things like muzzle brakes and pins and shit, its fine.

>>33665418
It holds the bolt open for you. And more accurate than a fal despite it's ghetto way it attaches to the stock.

>>33609629

Accurizing M14s is a fucking money pit with diminishing returns and the only people who do it are old ex-USMC Vietnam vets (or people who wish they were) who think anything used at a Camp Lejeune marksmanship competition is the end-all be-all of small arms design.

And this is coming from someone who loves the M14 design and who plans on scoping his. Any of the rifles ITT are 90% more accurate than their shooters. An inherent mechanical accuracy limit is irrelevant if the shooter isn't good enough to hit it.

>>33610486
idiot

>>33659221
nice shooting

>>33669486
Titanium is also very sticky. It needs to be coated if there's a high amount of friction on it.

New thread:
>>33669978
>>33669978
>>33669978

>>33609629
The BM-59 doesn't have the same problems because they didn't fuck with the gas system of the Garand (see M14's white gas system). It's simply a shortening and rechambering of a garand and it worked pretty damned well.

>>33609685
too much weight in that package. IMO all the HBAR PTR's are overly heavy. Not that it's not a great platform but you can push close enough performance out of a GI with wide handguards (free floated) and match ammo.
If you are looking for that you should gravitate towards an AR-10 or hold out for a long barrel SCAR.
You could have an HBAR AR-10 with Bipod and scope come in under 12lbs - any similar HBAR PTR kitted out is going to be approaching 15lbs - and don't even think about it with an M14

>>33655563
>14lbs without scope and bipod

>>33667226
It's FALtastic
>>33667272
Bren has widely been called too accurate for a LMG and was by far the most accurate LMG of WW2.
The FN MAG 58 adopted the Bren's barrel locking method and it is known as being pretty damned accurate as well - 1200m first burst hits with irons are not uncommon between the MAG and M240

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Trying to find more information about my FAL. It's an early DSA built rifle on LMT receiver. STG-58 kit. They had a run of rifles painted in digicam. Mine was marpat but I stripped that paint job off. The barrel is marked as you can see in the pic. Looking for more information on the barrel.