Ghost in the Shell... The future of gun design?

>>33537307
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>>33537307
Clear plastic looks weak af

>slide looks like it has cracks

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The Asp was the only cool gun with clear poly on it. It's also older than the manga so it's hardly new. That thing looks blockier than a glock and impossible to rack or sight.

ScarJew's Gits movie placed 3rd against Boss Baby and Beauty and the Beast.

>>33537613
>kek
shilos movie sold 1 ticket

>>33537613
Wanted to so see it into live action, then they had to make it stupid. Not even sure I would even bother pirating it.

>>33537424
source on the hitler playing card?

>>33537613
>a dreamworks kids movie and a disney movie outsold any other movie
im shocked

>>33537804
I'd recommend i if only because the guy playing Batou is really good. Apart from that it's pretty mediocre.

>>33537578
If you look closely, it is a glock

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>>33537307
They should have kept her original pistol. The car chase guy also had his gun changed from a basic MAC10 to a weird uzi clam shelled between two pieces of kydex or something. The movie wasn't mind blowing but it wasn't horrible either.

>>33537424
>polymer guns? that will never work.

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>tfw instead of this cool as fuck stamped metal P90/AR-18 lovechild we got a super square Tavor
;_;

Just got back from this. I liked it, pretty cool visuals.

But then again, I'm not an autist so take that with grain of salt I guess.

>>33537613
>can't outperform fucking Boss Baby
Someone call NASA and see if they can get my sides back.

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Also rare Czech wonder nine

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One of the more interesting scenes in GiTS was the debate between the Major and Togusa over his decision to carry an old-school revolver in the middle of all that high tech. Seeing these impractical gun designs reminds me that, as usual, Togusa was the most practical and level-headed of the whole bunch.

>>33538097
Looks like a striker fired sig p226

>>33538077
That looks like a spliced abomination from the depths of bubbas garage with sheet metal stamped on, dude needs to get an firearms engineering autist to draw it in excruciating detail.

>>33538097
this looks like it wont explode so its better

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>>33538111

top kek

>>33538111
>the debate between the Major and Togusa over his decision to carry an old-school revolver

Fucking why. If he's good with it, it shouldn't matter.

>>33538165
The same reasons 1911 and 92 fags have 500+ shitpostathon threads

>>33537833
Varusteleka

>>33538111
>>33538165
Togusa's character is to show off the opposite side of being hightech and rushing into technological advancement. He has no cybernetic implants and shows off that a simpler life is still nice. The whole series is about rushing into technology and stuff like that. Also Batou has the saddest roboboner and wants to live Togusa's life with a nice family and shit.

>>33538200
>civilian rifle
>featureless
REE

>>33538192
>wants to date the major
>the major is low key gay AF
Poor Batou never stood a chance.

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>>33538229
Stop right there. I do not need those feels.
>not even the most advanced body augmentations will make you good enough for her

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Visuallyat least the movie is great

>>33538229
>low key
yacht_orgy.jpg

>>33538133
>That looks like a spliced abomination from the depths of bubbas garage with sheet metal stamped on, dude needs to get an firearms engineering autist to draw it in excruciating detail.
whats wrong with it
as far as scifi bullpup designs its pretty decent

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>>33538262

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>tfw Airshiters can rig up cooler shit than Hollywood.

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>>33538360
No kidding.

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>>33538326

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>>33538410
>dude just make it square lmao

>>33538410
Besides the stock, it looks pretty good.
What kind of stock would look best?

>>33538435
A normal MP5 stock.

>>33538435
Just give them Kriss vectors or something they look sci fi enough

>>33538435
One that isn't just a rectangular frame. Having sights would be nice too.

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>>33538428
WHY? OH GOD WHY? THEY COULD HAVE USED A MINI-14 RIGGED UP TO P-90 FURNITURE.

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>>33538428
Just.

>>33538457
>sights
>not having a neural link.
Do you cyberpunk?

>>33538286
a whole lot of little things:
>paper thin sight protectors with no support
>metal bit hanging off the front sight
>sharp unfinished looking edges
>weak joint connecting the handhold and pistol grip
>pistol grip looks like its held on by friction
>huge open space in front of the trigger
>weird bumps on the stock look liked they hurt more than they help
>9001 places for dirt, grime, and filth to build up
while this whole bit is one big exercise in 'muh opinion' it really does look uninspired, like he took a L22 and and P90 spliced them together and added a bunch a angled shapes because the future is square and people are immune to sharp objects.

>>33538483
That would be fine if it weren't for the fact that there's no sign of any sensors or cameras on the front end of the gun, nor is there any sign that she's got augments. Batous got those golf ball eyes for a reasonm and the major still has to use goggles for NV and so on.

>>33538501
Its shown in the anime that she can hardlink to rifles when she "recruited" Satiou. And think of Halo.

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They couldn't even pony up for a real Mateba.
Even that fucking awful YA shlock "The Divergent" series could manage that.

>>33537307
>>33538410
>>33538428
>>33538482
>someone was paid money to put this shit together

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>>33538536
She can hardlink, but the rifles have to have special accessories to make it work, and it has to be connected via a wire.
That>>33538410
image has nothing that well thought out.

>>33538537
wut. now i have to watch divergent

or maybe after the gun guys saw what they made to pass as the police guns they just decided that it's a disgrace to use a real metaba

>>33538179

Fucking why? In an age of fancy cyber tech where everyone is a super human what possible reason is there to use a revolver in none other than 9mm as a combat side arm. Not only are you killing off your capacity, which is one of the selling points of 9mm, but you're forgoing the penetrative capabilities offered by magnum chamberings, which is arguably the only saving grace revolvers have.

>>33538590
because a mateba never jams

>>33538192
>>33538590
>everyone is a super human

>>33538590
You're missing the whole point of Togusa's character
>>33538192

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>>33538589
Look at this.
How can a fucking series marketed towards 14 year old girls and gay boys have better prop weapons than Ghost in the Shell with the full power of Weta™?

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Who would win in a fight? Major or Adam?
I'm betting on Adam.
>Adam's 10mm Master Race vs Major's pop gun.
>Adam's Augs vs Major's doll body.

>>33538757
>turn completely invisible
>stand next to major
>typhoon to the face

>>33538757
The Major probably has better hacking capabilities

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>>33538757
>5.45x18mm
>pop gun
*penetrates 45 levels of soft body armor*

>>33538757
>doll body
She's pretty jacked when she's in combat mode bruh

>>33538678
it's ok that you're gay

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>>33538757
>Major's doll body.

>>33538200
That rifle has both a bolt and a gas system, how is that supposed to work?

>>33538850
I still want to fuck that.

lovingly

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>>33538049
Pretty sure there's a super fucking rare kit that you could get and build it around an airshit FAMAS to make an airshit M-22. It looks rad as fuck IMO, but is pretty much unobtainium.

>>33538860
That's not a gas tube.
I assume its some sort of cleaning rod, or whatever the heck the thing above the WA2000's barrel is.

>>33538861

the cybernetic vagina would crush your dick into dust

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>>33537307
It's a shit movie. It's not GitS. The weapon designs are uninspired garbage, like everything else in it.

>>33538489
About the only thing I can agree with you on is about the jagged metal edges everywhere, looks like a recipe for turning your hand into hamburger.

The rest seem way too reaching.

>>33538881
If that is the price I must pay to become one with my waifu, then it is a small price to pay.

>>33538850
this makes me wonder, just how powerful are jensens mech arms compared to the majors? we know adam can lift dumpsters and toss them around like theyre styrofoam, but I can remember any stand out moments of feats of strength for the
major.

>>33538920
She basically wrecked herself trying to rip the hatch off the spider tank. I think Jensen wins out on pure strength factor.

Honestly she isn't meant to be a hulk mode type of operator, that's Batou's job.

>>33538590
Revolvers never jam
+P+ rounds in a revolver that solid are fair game
Bullet types like ultra-hard polymer would still be effective in 9mm

>>33538960
>+p+ .454 casull
muh fukin dik

>>33538920
Jensen can lift and throw a soda machine like it's a football. Those things are just under 700 pounds empty.

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>>33538937
Im not sure how much lifting a dumpster compares to prying open a sealed armored tank hatch.

>>33538960
+P+ and sabotted rounds like 6.5 CBJ. Sexy

Revolvers aren't really that much more reliable though - if you use one with an extractor you can absolutely lock up the cylinder. Misalignment is possible.

A semi auto, arguably, might malfunction more, but its also far easier to remedy when it does happen.

>>33539026
Its been a long time since I've seen the original. Does she actually successfully get the hatch off?

>>33538678
Except that's a stupid fucking design. Judging on where the magazine is in relation to the muzzle, that entire gigantic piece of shit has a barrel length of like 5.5 inches. It's basically sticking a Glock in one of those carbine rigs.

Also means the trigger is probably far away from the chamber, so it needs a long trigger bar.

All the problems of a Bullpup with none of the benefits.

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>>33538757
Major's all about the cyber warfare. She'd make Jensen stab himself in the face

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>>33539069
No.

>>33539069
Nope, wrecks her body and gets saved by Batou who shows up at the last second with an anti tank rifle.

>>33539069
No, but at the same time id imagine its considerably harder to do.

>>33539077
but can jensen be interfaced without a hard connection? cant really cyber warfare something to death with no access ways

>>33539076
That's because its built off of a Kriss Vector.

>>33539077
Can Jensen even be hacked though? He doesn't have a cyberbrain and his infolink is a glorified cellphone. Jensen can hack other stuff, but it was never clear if he had to physically plug in to whatever he was hacking.

>>33539102
If he chose to get that chip upgrade from the illuminati like a giant scrub, sure.

>>33539102
You have people constantly communicating to jensen without a hard line.

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>>33539110
Pretty sure he lost a good part of his brain when he got shot in it. That can get hacked. I'm fairly certain he does some wireless stuff even disregarding the dumb "upgrade" along with pretty much everyone else that had brain augmentations. They need that shit to keep up

>>33539097
Yeah she doesn't do it though - for all we know she might also shred herself trying to pick up a dumpster.

Need a better source on her strength I guess

>>33539081
>>33539085

So what made her think she could pull a fucking TANK HATCH off with her bare hands?

I never got this.

Wouldn't the sensible thing be to try to exploit some other vulnerability like literally anything else

>>33539149
She had run out of options, used up all of her grenades and HV ammo.

>>33539142
Well every iteration of the Major is different, but she was able to completely absorb a blow from the super cyberized tank man in SAC and shatter the concrete beneath her, so she's pretty damned strong.

>>33539116
according to the wiki >>33539110 is right its pretty much a implanted cell phone
>This technology uses the natural conduction of teeth and bone to transmit sound to the inner ear. If an Eye-Know Retinal Prosthesis is also implanted, visual signals accompanying incoming transmissions can be projected directly onto the user's retina.
maybe she can spam his vision with popups

>>33539149
She was pretty hell bent on capturing the puppet master and learning more about him and herself. She has a few conversations with Batou on what it means to be human and believes that maybe the puppet master may be able to have something to say about it. Also this >>33539156

>>33539142
Every machine has its breaking point, i think dumpster lifting is far below armored hatch breaking, and she almost opened it.

>>33539165
>infolink
>At its most basic level, the package uses tight-band microwave signals when sending and receiving. With experience, users can obtain mastery over wideband transmissions as well, enabling them to interface with line-of-sight computer terminals or similar devices.
He's very connected

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wwwwwwwww

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>>33539213
why link the start of the scene before she hulks out and rips her muscles and arms apart.

>>33538784
>turn completely invisible
They both do that.
She fucks people up in h2h too.

>>33538789
>The Major probably has better hacking capabilities
This.

Even when she's not using thermoptic, she can hack his eyes and make him not able to see her anyway. If she gets to h2h range then she hacks his brain and shuts him down. I don't think we've seen Adam do that (I haven't played Mankind Divided).

Adam hasn't tried feats of strength on the same level as the Major, he's puched through walls and shit but so has she, she's ripped cyborgs in half but also destroyed her body doing too strong shit multiple times.

>>33539069
Mateba revolvers are semi-auto :^)
Also misalignment of the extractor is a maintenance issue
It'd be like not having a putting the spring on the guide rod in a 1911

>>33539229
nigga what

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>>33539251
>Mateba revolvers are semi-auto :^)
No, this Mateba is semi auto.
Togusas isn't.

>>33537953
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>>33538898
What is the purpose of that hook at the front of the trigger guard? Also, what would a holster for it look like, since the hook makes it so tall?

>>33539278

Didn't Togusa have a 6 Unica?

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>>33539283
The hook is for your secondary hand to hold on to more securely.

>>33539250
Its doesn't seem to be as invisible though, the show shows that you can still see them if you look hard enough and that you cant move too fast or hit anything. Adams in-game system says it's accurate enough to fool lasers security systems while he's running and can punch things while maintaining the stealth field.

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>>33539289
Nope. >>33538179
Fictional variant of the 2006M, and in one episode of SAC an original one.

>>33539304
But then again in game when you face that russian girl with the SMG's and the cloak shield you can easily see her in cloak mode. And the DE:HR cloak sucks up battery juice like nothing else. Even whith fully upgraded energy augments it lasts like a minute tops.

>>33539283
>>33539297

It's how people shot in the 70s/80s, they would use the index finger of their support hand to hold onto the trigger guard.

Theoretically it's supposed to reduce muzzle rise but your grip will change after each shot and muzzle rise isn't an issue with a proper normal grip anyway.

I used to shoot like that but it's only good for slow fire, you will find yourself adjusting after each shot.

>>33539304
The 95 version was able to fool all government security systems except the weight sensor and motoko was beating the shit out of people with it on.

>>33539311

SAC was more or less a trainwreck imo that did not do the original movie justice at all.

>>33538410
spray paint any nerf gun and it would look better than this.

>>33539326
>SAC was more or less a trainwreck
you're absolutely and completely wrong. SAC is just as strong and had no intention of following or "doing justice" to the original movie.

>>33539297
>>33539319
I see, although the hook on the Seburo seems very oversized for that, it looks like it can hold 2 fingers. It sticking out below the trigger guard also seems more of a burden than a benefit, especially when holstering it.

>>33539345
I just chalk it up to aesthetic reasons.

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Best gun reporting in!

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>>33539354

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>>33539350
That's probably true, just like how the feeding mechanism on the C26-A would not make any sense. Still looks neat though.

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>>33539334
>SAC is just as strong

>>33538898
thank you
>doctor who robostrips
>fuckin' koi fish fly by office buildings apparently (wow, just like japanese culture!! lmao)

how fucking lame, juvenile, and shitty. it's b movie nig...

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>>33539358

So thats almost equal footing on the stealth systems, jury is still out on strength, adam has a good possibility of being hacked; adam still has:
Titan armor
Typhoon
PEPS launcher
TESLA

>>33539304
>Adams in-game system says it's accurate enough to fool lasers security systems while he's running and can punch things while maintaining the stealth field.
The Major beats the shit out of lots of guys without breaking thermoptic camo. Jensen's is generally kinda-sorta visible in the same way.

They seem about the same which makes sense because Jensen's is based off hers of course.

>>33539326
>SAC was more or less a trainwreck imo that did not do the original movie justice at all.
Die in a fucking fire.

GitS:SAC was just as good as the movie, it just went in a different direction.

All the movies/shows are kind of stand-alone anyway, almost none of them try and continue or directly retell the same shit.

>>33539326
>shit taste: the post

>>33539369
Last I checked SAC is higher rated the the 95 movie. Just because it's not as drab, heavy, and dreary and not as heavy handed with the ideas doesn't mean it's not as good.

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>>33538757
>There is no SFM of Major & Jensen destroying entire rooms with their hard and furious fucking

>>33539375

Why are B&T guns so fucking expensive holy shit I want one

>>33537307
>Look at our Glock 320
That gun is just like everything else in that fucking movie; White.

>>33539376
I dunno, i think the satellite guided sniper rifle tech gives GitS/the Major the edge here.

>>33539251
I mean cylinder misalignment.
And extractors can get jammed up by all sorts of things. Either happens in the field, it usually requires more than SPORTS to fix. A semiauto might technically fail slightly more often, those 'failures' are always immediately fixable.

With the notable exception of overpressure ammo, theres no real reason to sacrifice the capabilities of a magazine fed semi auto. Especially when he wears it in a holster, not CC.

Also the Mateba's Unica is an autorevolver and their most famous product, the one in the movie is a fictionalized variant of the Mateba 2006M. Both the real 2006M and the fictional one are SA/DA.

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>>33539376
The major can just roll up in a Tachikoma or Fuchikoma tank and obliterate adam. Just a short brrrt and he's gone.

>>33539326
Speaking as someone who loves GitS, you're absolutely wrong. The original movie felt very much like 90's anime. It was extremely heavy on philosophy, overly dark and brooding, and unnecessarily complex as far as it's ideology goes. SAC was a TV show meant to be digested week to week and easy to follow, so they couldn't ram their ideas down your throat in an hour and a half and call it a day. Honestly, I can rewatch SAC episodes, but having seen GitS 95, I have no desire to see the whole thing again. Clips, sure, but you couldn't pay me to sit down and have my brain beat to death by dreary philosophy again. It's like getting hit in the head repeatedly with a depressed 2x4.

>>33539415
thats what the titans for, nullifies all physical damage; still vulnerable to emp though

>>33539427
Is this some Mankind Divided garbage? Thank goodness I never played that game

>>33539436
them Illuminati man, they got some freaky shit

>>33539354
One of them looks like an AR pattern SBR, which is maybe what it is. The charging action really makes me think that.

I always thought that the other was an uzi but it had that weird counter-weight or 90deg extended mag or something at the bottom, I never understood that.

>>33539479
Its a Steyr SPP.

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>>33539483
Fair enough. What's the thing on the bottom?
It's clearly part of the weapon.

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>>33539551
Magazine couplers.

>>33539569
Cool, thanks. I always wondered about that.

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>tfw we'll never get loose cannon major

>>33539692
>loose cannon major
Instead we have loose canon major

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>>33538757
Adam wins this.
>Firepower.
>10mm vs 5.45x18.
>So, a Soviet CC pistol round which can't even generate 100ftlbs AT THE MUZZLE can compare to a pistol round that can get over 700ftlbs.
>Adam's 10mm in Human Revolution uses QUANTUM FUCKERY to "phase" through armor. When fully upgraded, this MONSTER can rekt Tachikoma expy's.
>In Mankind Divided, this was changed to ammo types, Armor Pirceing, EMP, which would rekt the Major as she is mostly machine.
>The Assault Rifle in HR, is chambered in 7.7mm flechette. The closest comparison is 7.62 NATO SLAP and fully upgraded, it becomes a Smart Gun with a 60 round mag, firing at 900RPM.
>In MD, it was changed to fire legacy 5.56NATO, but keeps its stats, and has AP, and Incinerdary Ammo.
>in CQB, Adam is a MONSTER, he can KO multiple dudes in 2 or 3 seconds, puch through concrete walls, and his arm blades can slice through level IV armor like butter.
>If Adam REALLY wants to rekt your shit he can go full ALOHA SNACKBAR without dying, and can throw 1000 lb+ dumpsters like a cardboard box.
>The question of the tank hatch, Adam could rip it off with little difficulty, as a hatch needs to be able to be lifted by a human for access.
>Hacking. Adam is virtually immune to hacking, only being hacked after the Iliumnauti program.

>>33538428
Kinda looks like the machinegun from Doom 4

>>33538482
I don't get it, is it supposed to look 3D printed or something?

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>>33540014
I think its just supposed to look mass produced, also it doesn't seem to be a hero prop which means its not meant to be seen up close or for a long time.

>>33537307
Looks like an exploded glock

>>33538111
He also shot a "enhanced" guy who had his pain receptors turned off and was trying to rape a lady. Because he was off duty he got taken off the force, court ruling.

>>33539110
>gets seduced by major
>sees succulent cyber tattys
>throws her through wall into the bedroom
>plugs into her
>becomes her bitch after being hacked

>>33538410
>>33538428
>>33538482
lmao

>>33538410
Looking at it really close i think the stock is designed to fold and fit flat with the gun.

>>33537613
FUCK Boss Baby. It looks so damn poorly written and 2-dimensional. I volunteer at a local elementary school, and the kid I work with wants to go see it. I absolutely refuse. I can guarantee, with my life on the line, that if we go see it, he'd NEVER remember a single thing about it by the time he reaches 20. Instead, I'm taking that plebian motherfucker to go see LaLa Land.

>>33537307

Why do it tho?

>>33539081
>welcome to snap city

>>33539297
>>33539319
>>33539413

What you have to understand for the weapon design of the original manga is that it's from the mid eighties. It was literally cutting edge technological stuff for its time, and it's seeped in eighties futurism which is one of the things that makes it endearing.
Think of it like a Michael Mann flick from the time period - Thief, Manhunter or Miami Vice. Cutting edge for its time that now looks dated (but is still badness).

>>33537613
Well they did throw most of the source material out the window and alienated the existing fan base. It's not even bad as a movie, but it's a god awful adaptation.

>>33537953
Movie would have been a decent scifi/action thriller if they hadn't tried to slap the GitS brand on it.

It's a decent flick, but it's not GitS.

>>33537424
That chocolate is amazing. I'm almost out and thinking of buying some more.

>>33540085
the kanji on that gun say it's paper.

>>33540270
I actually really enjoyed the film despite its' glaring issues. I thought it was an interesting, if really dumbed down take on GitS. Sure, the weapon designs were shit, the bad guy was cartoonishly bad, and the cars looked like ass, but the film was overall pretty enjoyable and I hope for another.

>>33540994
>the main antagonist was horrible
>outside of scarlet everyone barely got any characterization outside of one or two lines
>hamfisted refrences that barely fit into the story
>that plain strange scene with the hooker(???)
>those terrible eyes on Batou
>that whole "are you the major still???" Shoved in at the end with no indication as to why he'd even ask that when he's played almost no real role the entire movie
>still somehow a good movie
I'm a pillar of salt because of this movies disservice to the series

The entire plot could be summed up as robot scarlet Johansson run around and shoots cyborgs for 2 hours

>>33538410
>no sights
>>33538537
>doesn't even look through them

>>33539413
I think the argument is revolvers pretty much cant "malfunction" like a semi auto. for the most part its only got 2 states woking or broken. Semi autos have 3: working, broken, or require more input.

>>33539283
I've always figured it was for the support hand when shooting from the seat of a car at an attacker, across the chest muzzle at door. Good for rapid shots but bad for hearing.

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>>33539708
Underrated post

>>33539326
The origin isn't the fucking movie, you mongloid. It's the manga, made by Masamune Shirow in the fucking 80's.

>>33540270
To me, it feels like they had an idea for a cyberpunk action movie that incorporated some of the aesthetic from GitS, and rather than get accused of stealing ideas, they just took the brand.

>>33538590
Havnt watched that live action one, but i can tell you why he used it in the anime

He uses specialty amunition, like trackers in it, and need to be able to load them quickly

he isnt enhanced, hes just a normal dude, he doesnt tend to get into gunfights, he is more of a support.

>>33539149
she had completely run out of options and was desperately trying anything she could think of.

>>33540085
>>33540014

Haven't seen the film, but I think the cardboard shell is meant to hold the gun together, as a nod to the original film. The guy in the anime who gets beat up by Major uses hyper-velocity rounds, which his gun shoots at the risk of blowing up. This would be a neat little update if it's actually what the prop department intended. If not, then I guess it's meant to convey that the gun is a cheap, easily-available DIY weapon

>>33540187
>Taking a fucking kid to see fucking Lalaland instead of a fucking KID movie
You fucking autistic

>>33542397
Could be it, but i think it just looks like a very cheap mass produced gun, like something youd give to a militia put together overnight, or something that youd find between fishing tackle and hunting supplies on aisle 9.

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>>33538111
>>33538165
silly anons, he carries a revolver because revolvers can't jam

>>33537953
>>33538049
>Uzi
>Tavor
>Scarjew
>Avi Arad
This is an Israeli money laundering scam

>>33538165
1. overcomplicated mateba in first place

2. they frequently get in serious firefights, some of which are against terrorist, military, and paramilitary. so slow reloads under fire and low capacity are fairly big concerns imo, particularly with how many rounds some androids take to go down

>>33538410
> What should I use to make the stock?
> Oh look, a metal shelf I bough from Home Depot in 1995

I want a standard issue big gun =(

>>33539415
I wonder how good tachikomas are for troop morale.

>>33538791
muh 20 rounds of hyper velocity ammunition in a compact

>>33538482
wow holy shit

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>>33539368
What sort of alien hands was that thing designed for?

Also, feed mechanisms can get pretty extreme and still function.

>>33537307

Someone thought they were real fuckin clever to come up with that

>Ghost in the Shell... What if we make her gun out of clear plastic and put an opaque skin-colored shell around it? It's like poetry, it rhymes!

>>33538482
>>33540085
oh i get it hes a garbage man so he carries a gun made of shit
perfect camouflage

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>>33543476
Its a thermoptic gun, its designed specifically for when someone uses thermoptic camouflage which like 30% of the important characters in ghost in the shell use.

>>33539383
SAC is fundamentally a procedural, nice window dressing aside. The movie is one continued idea from beginning to end, not just deep but also well-crafted as a story. SAC is artistically inferior, even if it has the same ideas.

>>33542895
I forgot
>Rupert Sanders
as well

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>>33543476
it's not meant to be poetic it's meant to be made out of the same stuff as her invisibility camo suit.

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>>33543783
should have made the movie a couple years ago.

>>33537953
Wasn't a mac-10 in the original movie, it was one of those mineba pm9 subguns. It's a jap produced mini-UZI basically

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Went to go see the movie, Major Scarjo was pretty meh but if you have actually seen the movie, you will know Aramaki is actually the biggest badass in it. It pretty much saved the movie from being a complete waste of time.

>>33543815
They could have used Antje or Rinko, saved millions in salary, and not affected the movie any other way.

The only thing I like ScarJew in, is Lost in Translation.

>>33538463
why waste time with a mini 14 when they can use jew junk

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>>33538262
Robogeisha had superior robot geishas. In 2009.

>>33543979

robogeisha was a fucking amazing movie

>>33542397
I don't think a gun needs to be made of cardboard to risk exploding/beating itself to pieces if it's being fed some +P+ rounds that it isn't rated for.

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>>33542306
Doesn't he use .357 in the anime, though?

>>33543812
she really soiled her body with god knows what she's eating

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>>33543996
It is a true classic of the robot prostitute assassin genre.

>>33544249
Unlike Batou, she isn't using the natural oil.

>>33543812
That was several years ago
>>33544249
Jewish women hit a rock with aging and they hit it hard

>>33543815
Beat Takeshi is a national treasure of Nippon

>>33537613
Boss baby was a fucking beast. Gits was shit cuz normies don't want to see because
>Too much anime
And weebs don't like it because
>Too little anime

>>33537804
Is there anything in theaters worth seeing anymore? I've literally seen rogue one and John wick 2 in the past year and regret the former

>>33545435
>regret the former
Rogue One wasn't that bad, it was a decent film to watch in theaters. The other new Star Wars was considerably worse.

>>33545461
they're both shit.

>>33545435
no anon, movies that come out in theaters aren't good. good doesn't sell.

>>33545537
What in your view is a good movie?

>>33538165
He got the shit beat out of him by a combat cyborg after putting 5 rounds center mass. Because people are fucking cyborgs in the future with cranium guns.

>>33539250
>I don't think we've seen Adam do that (I haven't played Mankind Divided)

He gets a bunch of upgrades in Mankind Divided, including a remote hacking unit, an unpenetrable (but energy draining) neodymium shell, "smart" vision that can see up to 100 feet through walls, and a fucking built in PEP gun. It would be a pretty equal fight desu.

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>>33537307
>Ghost in the Shell
>watch the trailer
>The Major's weapon is literally just a Glock painted white
>The future of gun design

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>>33538141
>dad?

>>33537307

not like that, and not with that fat ugly giant nosed rat as the major

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>>33543447
>>33539368
The F2P game kind of wussed out and redesigned it into a more conventional bullpup.

>>33546456
She's wearing a gigantic stunt harness in that pic, I've been next to her in real life she is very thin.

>>33537307
Is it wrong that when after I retire I want to make handguns out of home grown synthetic 'sapphire'?

>>33539201
Why are we debating what she may or not be able to do to a hatch with a completely unknown locking mechanism being better than a guy we know can THROW liquid fuel tanks the size or his body, while also possessing several Augs that make him resistant to physical damage.

How in the fuck is a plastic slide not going to explode?

>>33538326
>>33538262
how good u think it succ

>>33539250
Yeah she can just hack an organic brain
Because that type of shit would never have been thought of in Jensens world

They don't have it in game because it would trivialize the fuck out of the entire game/story like some CoD shit

>>33539415
Yeah, not like Jensen had to fight armor all the time right. Thanks EMP and various explosives

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>>33540085
>Buy parts kit online
>3D print frame and receiver out of your recycled hot pockets boxes
>???
>Profit

HER NAME ISN'T MAJOR, YOU STUPID RETARD!

>>33539748
>Major and Jensen square off
>brawling paying no attention to an assuming card board box
>chaff grenade goes off and fucks their shit up
>both hit by stingers

GREY FOX?!

>>33539319
Jerry Miculek shoots like that. Just saying.

>>33546985
True. That man has too many records for anyone on this board to try to dispute his technique.

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>>33537953
I've got one of those models around here somewhere. A few 5.45x18mm cartridges as well.

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>>33538428
Its like they made a bullpup M41A.

>>33539081
>when you're deadlifting and don't use your thighs

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>>33538192
Having someone without cybernetic implants is nice when hackers can hack pretty much everything. Somebody has to tell you that you all are fucking hallucinating.

>>33547337
Togusa still has some implants and was hacked by LM for a week or something without ever realizing it when he went to the cyber autist asylum.

>>33537307
>not Five-Seven.
What a waste.

>>33541434
Thanks, I thought I was being clever.

To be fair, all of the various movies and series are somewhat loose with their canon.

>>33542092
>The origin isn't the fucking movie, you mongloid. It's the manga, made by Masamune Shirow in the fucking 80's.
Yeah, they're pretty much all alternate versions of each other because they're from the same material but every one has its own take on it.

More timelines than Marvel.

>>33542163
>To me, it feels like they had an idea for a cyberpunk action movie that incorporated some of the aesthetic from GitS, and rather than get accused of stealing ideas, they just took the brand.
Names sell. Hollywood stopped doing that shit briefly but it's back in fashion again.

>>33543481
>oh i get it hes a garbage man so he carries a gun made of shit
>perfect camouflage
I assumed it was basically camo, it could sit in a toolbox and not be immediately recognisable as a weapon.

>>33543878
>They could have used Antje or Rinko, saved millions in salary, and not affected the movie any other way.
Instead of ScarJo? Do you understand why Hollywood casts A-listers? It's not for quality or appropriateness. It's because they sell tickets by having their name on it. People will watch this shit without knowing what the fuck it's about because it's a ScarJo film and they think that they like those.

>>33545537
>movies that come out in theaters aren't good
You belong in >>>/tv/ It's your natural home.

>>33546604
What game? I've never heard of it.

>>33547048

i love you so much.

>>33538482
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzVT0kfkCGo
DYI? DYI!

>>33541027
Your a fucking retard if you had high expectations for anything coming out of Hollywood. I was pessimistic and came out mildly impressed

>>33547375
>Togusa still has some implants and was hacked by LM for a week or something without ever realizing it when he went to the cyber autist asylum.
True but he's still the least cybered person around, so it's an improvement. It's also handy to just have a 'normal guy' on the team because he'd be at a crime scene be the only one who noticed that say, the mother didn't have any baby food, or the 10yo child wasn't doing homework.

Everyone else is just talking about what clinic the guy's mods must have come from.

He's an improvement at least and he's the only one who is vaguely in-touch with normal people.

Lack of suspension of disbelief is a sign of autism.

>>33547644
Masamune Shirow definitely was an autist.

>>33543481
I haven't seen the live action, but in the anime the guy wasn't the Garbage Man, he was someone else the Garbage Man met in a bar who used the Garbage Man as a decoy. They tracked down the Garbage Man who noticed he was being tailed and went off to warn the 'Skinny Man' that the cops were on to him.

Skinny Man was a fairly well equipped thug, had a Cloaking Hoody and High Velocity ammo, plus he was augmented, Major breaks his ankle and wrist and he just back flips away.

He was ghost hacked, sure, but that only explains the script tool he was using and gave to the Garbage Man.

Assuming they followed the original at all.

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>>33538482
>implying it's not just a regular uzi sealed in some kind of ceramic scanner/metal detector shield, since the future is prolly full of hidden detectors and shit

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>>33543783
This is the look the Major has after she spin kicks Skinny Man in the face knocking him to the ground in the anime.

>>33547498
This, as I recall the major sorta spoke on whys he liked having him around in SAC and the First movie.

>>33537578
Never heard of this thing. Really fucking cool.

http://www.guns.com/2013/05/28/the-asp-9-the-coolest-gun-you-never-heard-of/

>>33547911
>Because we need a guy like you. Number 1, you're an honest cop, number 2 you've never stepped out of line, and number 3 you're a family man. And, except for the slight brain augmentation, you're body is almost completely human. If we all reacted the same way, we'd be predictable, and there's always more than one way to view a situation. What's true for the group is also true for the individual. It's simple, over specialize and you breed in weakness... and slow death.

>>33537424
Whats that gun on the right? Becuase I need that shit.

>>33548048
Walther P1. Post-war version of the P38. Aluminum frame instead of steel. It's cheaper, but doesn't have the wehraboo appeal.

>>33548072
Fantastic. Thanks.

>>33539077
I hate this argument whenever anyone faces them off with the Major. "B-but she can just hack them!" Do people not realize how hacking works? These people from other universes would have technology inside them completely different from her universe, it would be incredibly doubtful that the architecture would be compatible and that she could interface. It's about as bad as in Independent Day when a Windows 95 virus takes out a fucking alien spaceship.

I once saw a particularly hilarious example of this when someone was arguing the Major could hack the Master Chief in a fight and hack Cortana... bahahaha, the same tech from 500 years in the future and the super AI that regularly cracked through fucking Covenant and Forerunner systems. No way.

>>33547048
Where did you get those? I am pretty jelly.

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>>33538678

>all that rifle
.
.
.
>all that barrel

>>33548179
as much as I love the major this. I know Major's kit pretty well but can't say the same for Adam, but from what others have listed, he'd have a huge advantage.

old tech > new tech even though the user of the old tech can mitigate it some what, if both users of old tech and new tech are equally skilled with the above, then the new tech will win.

>>33547414
>Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex: First Assault

It's a rather bland, generic, typical South Korean FPS "arena shooter" or whatever. Small maps, with the gimmicks being character specific "powers." For example, Batou can activate a rocket launcher after a set amount of time or kills/assists, and Togusa can activate a sentry or send seaker explosive drones or whatever, I forgot.
However, the community is quite good and fairly healthy to a certain degree. The game does not put too much emphasis on Pay2Win like many Nexon published games out there (I'm looking at you, Combat Arms).

However...
>mfw, Koreans can design better sci-fi weapons than the ones use in the Hollywood GiTs movie, haha!

>>33548243
Too add to this, The main reason why the major is so bad ass is because she is of the highest tech level possible or at least that is what is semi implied throughout the GITS SAC universe, as well as the first movie.

>>33548249
I paid money for it, I thought it was pretty neat, not something I could play a lot but pretty fun with solid feeling combat.

>>33540187

Fuck that shit, sit him down with Rambo like my dad did with me.

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>>33546701
you tellem jewboy!

>>33538045
>not knowing why anon specified clear plastic

>>33547048
Pls where to get

>>33547969
>>33547498
this is common in think tanks and design teams as well. Gather people from different fields, sometimes totally unrelated to the subject you're working on, for alternate viewpoints and ideas.

>>33547969
>>33548481

He's also the only 'regular' cop. The only other cop on the team is Paizo and he's an MP who specialises in undercover work with smuggling gangs and shit and is suggested to be more than half a gangster anyway.

Togusa is literally the only guy who might know the regular procedure to notify someone of a death, find a stolen car or investigate a murder.

A couple of the others are intel specialists but most of them are pretty much just finely tuned killing machines. Great for taking down the bad guys, not as useful for uncovering complicated conspiracies.

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>>33537307
>we need a cool gun desgin
>fuck it, just take a glock and make it see through and/or white

the fuck happened to originality in movies?

>>33547948
I just know it as the first available pistol in black ops 1.

>>33540105
that one bummed me out

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>>33538360
>AK gas block on an F2000

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>>33540187
>taking a child to watch a well-made Hollywood musical they won't appreciate
>not watching violent, gory action movie schlock
What the actual fuck is wrong with you.

>>33549049
Anti-gunners and feminists.

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>>33548202
>>33548466
The maker of those kits was 'Poseidon' in Japan. I got mine through a friend-of-a-friend who purchased them locally for me. I have a pair of the M5's and the Mateba.

Here is a very old photo, please excuse the resolution.

>>33549049
>literally i cant read/i dont know anything about GITS the post

>>33537424
That P38 reminds me...Ghost in the Shell may have been a flop, but I would love to see a Lupin III live-action movie if they didn't whitewash it and kept the goofy antics.

>>33548271
I paid for Beta Access too, yes, it's enjoyable but it becomes bland eventually. Devs need to stop making tiny-ass "Crossfire" like maps and make them 3x bigger than the current ones available. A common issue I face is enemies spawning right next to me and I die because they have 2 second spawn protection.

If they can revamp map designs then the game would be much more enjoyable, to be honest. However, Domination, SND, and Ghost modes are pretty fun so I guess what I said was an exaggeration to some degree.

>>33549344
Can you by any chance provide measurements of your M-5 and take photos of every angle? As far as I know, the one you're carrying is a perfect replica, correct? I have a friend of a friend who's trying to R&D and fabricate a "metal replica." It'd be highly appreciated if you can help out a fellow anon.

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>>33538482
not even the worst gun. they have the old jap dude shoot a six shot revolver like 9 times without reloading.

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>>33549442
I haven't got it handy at the moment so that will have to wait for another day. I'll post the other photos I have saved in the meantime.

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>>33549442

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>>33549442
They came unpainted, cast in light gray resin.

>>33549462
>>33549472
>>33549501
When you get a chance, could you lay it out on a cutting board mat with grid pattern with a ruler to map out dimensions properly? I guess the important parts to "copy" would be where the trademarks are placed, angles, thickness, etc etc of the pistol. Important areas that would help calculate dimensions of other parts of the gun.

Something on the lines of a cheapo 3D scanner such as Microsoft Kinect may help, but I don't wish to overburden you.

I don't mind waiting, but I wouldn't know where you would "run off" to on /k/.

>>33539369
SAC was pretty damn good.

>>33539748
Hmm, see because all I'm seeing here is you desperately trying to justify why your favorite character would win.

>>33547337
>>33547375
he also got royally mindfucked in Innocence as well

>>33549527
There's already a 3D print model available online. Just google "seburo m5 3d print"
I'd also be interested in the measurements for the gun tho.
Especially for the "engravings"

>>33540187
>not letting him watch Military Channel and war documentaries

>>33549703
I've seen it, but I don't trust the reliability of the dimensions for the 3D print version. Poseidon Japan worked closely with the original creators of the series if my information is correct, thus why I called it "the perfect replica" in my opinion.

>>33543676
>SAC is fundamentally a procedural

Not those other anons, but that is literally what GitS is: it's a police procedural following an assassination and cyber warfare special operations unit who works for a corrupt government.

Have you never read the original manga?

The 95 movie (and Innocence) is actually the significant departure from the source material compared to SAC.

>>33547048
>tfw even if I did get one, it'd only be 10+ years from now
>:(

>>33537953
>The car chase guy also had his gun changed from a basic MAC10 to a weird uzi clam shelled between two pieces of kydex or something.

The guy in this scene from the original manga had a grenade pistol thing.

The original poured tons of effort into designing cool, thematically consistent guns. They should have used that effort instead of opting for leftover b-movie props.

>>33538111
>Togusa was the most practical

For carrying a heavy ass hand-cannon? Nah.

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>>33549840
>.357
>handcannon

>>33549727
Alright.
Since the poseidon version is basically unobtainable in the west it'd be cool if someone made a 3d file based on the poseidon then.
Like the one guy said he would

>>33549994
>>33549727
>>33549527
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005E7IL50/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me=

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>>33543814
It isn't a Minebea either. It's a Chinese bootleg Micro UZI.

>>33544249
>>33544288
don't forget she's been drink that SJW/feminist/Hillary juice heavily over the past year.

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>>33538360
Gun owners can do better as well, shit people that repaint nerf guns can do better then this movie.

>>33549746
The manga and tv shows are inferior to the movie. The manga is schlock, it needed to be improved upon and Mamorou Oshii was the guy to do it.

>>33550239
>take "schlock"
>and long atmospheric sequences
>some /tv/ mongoloid thinks he's smart for watching it
Never fails.

>>33550232
I want this.

>>33550257
t. butthurt /m/anchild

>>33550265
t. 15 year old trying to look "mature"

>>33539081

>Pulling sumo

Wouldn't count even if she got it open.

>>33538360
UGH WTF IS THAT!?

it's a diseased incest rape baby between AK, F-2K, p-90 and g-36???

the flying monkey fuck retard would shit the together?

>>33549527
Are you trying to build a real one? You better post any results here. It probably wouldn't be too bad since it's such a small caliber and can just be blow back and mostly aluminum. Copy the makarov's design.

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>>33539708

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>Comparing the Major to Jensen
>Not Comparing the Major to the true godhead.

Turn invisible, hacking and strength? Nice. how about..
>Creating assault drones out of thin air
>Proper invisibility field, even to radar and heat
>Can detonate smart ammo in the magazine or in the barrel at range
>can agressivly intercept incoming explosives
>Can regenerate from injuries as fast as you can injure him
>emp field and shield
>Can throw cars like Jensen throws soda machines
>breath water
>energy shield
>sound cancellation system

>>33544265
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>>33547969
it's also to echo the puppet masters reasoning for choosing the major

Is it possible to have a modular barrel system where you can change barrel lengths?

>>33551063
Yes. But depending on the specifics of your weapon, it may (not will, but might) require adjustments to other parts of the system. Gas systems, springs or other parts of the weapon.

>>33551246

Could just slowing the firing speed work?

>>33540266
So, it's the cyberpunk version of the Constantine movie?

so is this film just girl robocop?

>>33550468
Energy shield cannot be used at the same time as regen. And I would rather use speed than silent step.

>>33549424
I don't know why everyone in the states is freaking out about scarjo playing the major. Not really that big of a deal

>>33538111
Carring a revolver didn't show that he was practical or level headed at all. It characterized him as a guy that didn't buy into the high tech world and just wanted to live a simple life.

>>33551498
She probalby doesnt care about the character she is supposed to be playing and some other people complain about her whitewashing motoko

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>>33551498
she just plays the same generic femme fatale role

>>33542883
yes they can you retard, its very rare but when they do its a critical failure that needs either replacement parts or a new gun

>>33551321
Unfortunately. Another Hollywood abortion.