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>>33354694
First. Ask a recruiter dipshit not /k/.

>>33354694
If I want to go Infantry, should I go Marines or Army?

If all I give a shit about is traveling, what branch and MOS or Rate?

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I was wondering if i could get some info on Calvary Scout 19D.
Like:
>where one might get stationed
>what might one expect to be doing because one isnt likely to see combat for a while.
>personal experiences

also i was hoping i could get some input on the pic, its my asvab practice test score. It was my first time taking it and i never looked into the military option when i was in high school so im honestly pretty knew to all this info.

Ive narrowed it down to army and looking at the option i think cav scout is something i would like.

>>33354734
There isn't a war. So why? Obviously do the Army it's easier.

is it a meme that marine DI's are tougher than army DS's?

>>33354734

If you wanna travel, Marines is probably better

>>33354731
what? are you retarded?

>>33354774
The "marines are tougher" thing is all PR and discussing it becomes basically a big Kafkatrap.

>>33354774
No. They are hardcore mother fuckers. Legitimately.

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Attitude wise, what is expected of an officer?
Are you expected to act like pic related or can you be chill?

>>33354774

pretty much everything the marines say about their branch is a meme. "HURR OUR PT IS HARDER" "WE SHOOT BETTER" "OUR DIS ARE SOOO TOUGH"

Its all just moto bullshit, 03xx and 11x are basically equivalent, but Army has better funding so their gear/logistics is better. That's basically the only difference, that and marines are more likely to be stationed overseas than soldiers

>>33354791
Maybe. I'm a former Infantry Marine giving a highschool kid free advice.

>>33354822
>Is an officer expected to act like a Drill Sergeant?

No. How does one even come to this conclusion?

>>33354823
>but Army has better funding so their gear/logistics is better.

Even this is kind of a meme. The whole idea of Marines having to make due with hand-me-down equipment is super outdated.

From guns, to armor, to vehicles, to field electronics, to vehicles- Marines have their own separately procured stuff.

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Recently had my Army OCS board interview and it went well. I was recommended for acceptance and scored highly all around, so it looks like I will be going to OCS most likely.

A few questions:

1. Has anyone here attended Army OCS or an officer candidate/training school for any branch of the US Military?
If so, aside from the basics (pay attention, be a decent and pleasant person, show up in shape), what sort of tips do you recommend for optimization of performance?

2. How much does the OML (order of merit list) really matter when it comes to branching?
I have heard varying things about it being extremely uncommon for anyone in the top third of the class on the OML not branching something in their top 3 picks, yet I have also heard people say the OML is entirely arbitrary and however you branch is up to the army.

3. For the most part I want to branch something combat arms (infantry, FA, and engineer), and would be happy with anything combat related. I plan to do as well as I possibly can to maximize my chances of branching how I want.
However, if there aren't combat arms available to me for whatever reason, which of the logistics branches (transportation, quartermaster, ordnance) is most desirable or offers the most exciting career?

3 1/2. What does the life and daily work of an Ordnance officer entail exactly? If deployed, do they get a lot of opportunities to go outside the wire?

Thank you

>>33354832
Complete lack of a frame of reference.
When you see an army movie you only see the enlisted, the DI, maybe some specialists, and if an officer shows up hes the main character, a guy who just gives heroic speeches or a laughingstock.

>>33354694
Is the Air Force just excluded from these threads? PJ's and CCT's are operator af.

>>33354856
Marines get top notch gear. Our vehicles fucking suck however.

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>>33354856
This. Marines have their own F-35s for Christ's sake, and a whole buncha sexy pic relateds

>>33354882
no, i just copied and pasted from last thread. so i guess the last guy just didnt put the AF in.

>>33354907
Makes sense, are these threads usually only infantry oriented?

>>33354923
No, snowflake. Everybody wants to be CCT, just nobody knows one.

>>33354955
Snowflake? I don't understand what you're trying to imply. I know washed out PJ's TACP, and CCT's that got sent to the aircraft maintenance field. Doesn't really count tho

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I've got my Associates, and am about a year and a half off from getting my Bachelor's.

Should I enlist now in the reserves (Marine or Air Force) to help pay for school, or take out a loan, finish school, and then commission?

>>33354823
The marines do have a higher standard of PT (when it comes to running at least)
And they do shoot farther on quals.

Is part time college doable while active duty?

>>33355528

In most jobs, yes. In some jobs you can do full-time college.

I wanted to ask from the last thread, what on earth do people do in aircraft maint that cripples them?

German fag here,
Should I go for a 13 year long officer contract, which includes studying for three years at one of their universities to become a EOD tech or should join as NCO for 12 years?
Btw, all officer or NCO contracts are that long, unless you go for aviation then it's 16 years.

>>33355037
Just how bad is the PJ indoc course?

>>33355774
same shit that cripples a construction workers
>falling off of shit
>electricity
>crawling on hands and knees
>breaking fingers and arms working on shit
>negligent co-workers

Its Hard technical labor, like driving a train back in 1800s.

>Average time from application to enlistment is 4 to 12 months
Just fuck my shit up

>>33355859
damn, thats nice to know.

>>33355925
Don't know if you're just shitting on me or legitimate t b h.
This is for Canada, everyone I've talked to has told me it's quicker in the States.

>>33355930
i was being legit, but you should have stated that it was for canucks.

I shave my head.
I'm not a skinhead. It's hygienic and efficient, plus it saves money.

Will I look a try hard wanna be NCO or be called a neonazi excessively?

Best friend is getting cold feet about joining. Going to join without her, im too set to let it hold me down. Feel like im abandoning her even though she's helped me with the studies immensely, how do i just tell her without come off like a prick? Remember women overreact

>>33355930
Recruiters are slow, the whole process is slow but if they want you, they want you. I Swore in on march 8th and was off to basic by march 12. There's a large recruitment drive coming up and quite a few trades are in the red right now for capacity including my own (Which is a rarity) Trades that are over staffed are just about anything under the RCEME flag. these guys sit on PAT platoon for over a year waiting for training.

Ask a guy who just finished a 12 month deployment a week ago anything
>Army Engineer
>Didn't kill anyone
>Spent all my time in Kuwait and UAE
>Nothing happened
>It was hot as fuck and boring
>Company-level politics everywhere

>>33354828
You mean a recruiter

>>33357250
Is UAE even a patch earning deployment it just an overseas posting?

>>33357298
in the CAF, anything over 6 months is a medal. but now anything under 6 months and you don't get that tax free deployment pay

>>33357337
I've gotten the tax free pay in places without an earnable patch. I'm genuinely curious if you come back home wearing a deploymet patch.

>>33357250
3/101 or no?

>>33357352
the tax break was only recalled on Kuwait and we don't do patches like that, we do medals and ribbons. patches are reserved for other shit like ship time and only go on our DEU's

>>33357352
This right here.

My old AIT classmates in 2/101 came back from Iraq patched up but no CMBs to be seen.

They all sat around for the entire time.

>tfw E5 soon and slick
I should've joined immediately after high school.

>>33354895
There's absolutely nothing good about the V-22

>>33354694
>went to Meps today
>got through most of the medical perfectly fine
>get to the part where I have to spread my ass for the doc
>get denied for hemorrhoids
>tfw I don't even have hemorrhoids
>I just like to fist my ass
>tried to explain the real reason for the "hemorrhoids" to my recruiter
>now she's even more upset
>she was so nice before but now she even said "wtf anon"
>now I'm even more worried
>95% I'm now denied from the air force
Will the other branches take me or am I screwed? If I cut back and lay low for a bit can I come back in a few days/weeks and try again or will Meps still know about the "hemorrhoids"?

>>33357385

Most of the E-6s I work with are slick sleeves.

>>33355464
Their qual is arguably easier, since it's slower paced, with an acog, and every target is known distance.

>>33357560
>>33357385
This makes me such an old-timer. I got out of the Army in 2009. Everyone back then deployed straight out of AIT. Any PFC or above without a combat patch was a medical case.

>>33357595
Marines don't use iron on quals like the Army?

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>>33354857
>2. How much does the OML (order of merit list) really matter when it comes to branching?
>I have heard varying things about it being extremely uncommon for anyone in the top third of the class on the OML not branching something in their top 3 picks, yet I have also heard people say the OML is entirely arbitrary and however you branch is up to the army.

Well, from an ROTC perspective, OML means absolute jack-shit.

It's supposed to be like,
>Good PT
>Good Grades
>Good Leadership
>You get the branch you want, usually infantry, armor, aviation

>Average PT
>Average Grades
>Average Leadership
>You're going to get what you want as long as it's MP, transpo, quartermaster, or signal corps

>Bad grades
>Bad PT
>Bad leadership
>You'll get needs of the Army

>Worst PT
>Worst Grades
>Worst Leadership
>You get Chem Corps

That's the way it's generally supposed to be set up.
But it doesn't work at all.

I saw a guy fail 4 PT tests in a row and get selected for active duty infantry.

I've seen absolute studs that went to airborne in college, never made below a 300 on the PT test, and had a 3.5-4.0 GPA get sent to the last thing on their list.

It's an absolute cluster fuck and doesn't super-duper matter.

>>33357611

Welcome to an Army that hasn't done reliable deployments in 6+ years.

Many people have entered and exited the Army with zero chance to deploy.

>>33357723

Real talk anon: was the infantry dude a minority? They go outside the OML for diversity sometimes.

>>33357750
No.
He pig looking white guy with horrible acne and bright blond hair.

He once led our group on a 2 mile, got tired halfway through going on a 10 minute pace, and had us turn around.

I sincerely hope he fails out of infantry BOLC because he won't survive ranger school.

What's the difference between artillery and armored corps (tanks, armored recon etc)?
Is there any overlap?

I'm interested in 19K and related MOS, what's it like?

>>33357616
They are authorized to use their RCO (ACOG). So, Marines qualifty at 500 meters vs the Army's 300, but they get to use 4x magnification optics.

This is why the Moto Marine chestbeating kind of falls flat. They highlight the "harder" parts if their stabdards but omit certain details.

>>33358062

ACOGs are a new corps thing though, and if you were an avid shooter you'd know that optics don't necessarily make it easier to make your target, they just magnify your technique.

I'm finally heading to OTS next month after a year long wait - anyone who has been there have any advice?

>>33357723
>I saw a guy fail 4 PT tests in a row and get selected for active duty infantry.
I was under the impression that if you fail a single PT test or your grades drop below 3.0 you get booted out of ROTC. Am i wrong?

>>33354762
You can get stationed pretty much anywhere an Infantryman gets stationed, e.g. Fort Campbell, Fort Lewis, Fort Drum
If you get stationed with an Infantry unit, have fun because they will all look down on you

I want to fly but I'm not interested in college.
Which branch has the best enlisted aircrew?
I know that for the army you need to spend time in as a mechanic, even then you aren't guaranteed a position. I know the navy has a bunch of aircrew shit.

Anyone else got some info? I can't find too much about USAF or USCG aircrew

>>33358895
You can be a Crew chief inna Army, they have good lives from the ones I know in Campbell

>>33358895

You'll fly the most as an air force crew chief since that branch supports the most missions of us forces and allies by far.

>>33356674
No you'll look like a guy who shaves his head
Plenty of dudes shave their heads while in to save money/trip to barber

>>33357723
Just curious but what's wrong with the chem corps, why is it so undesirable?

>>33357723
yes but I asked about OCS

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>>33358856
>and if you were an avid shooter you'd know that optics don't necessarily make it easier to make your target, they just magnify your technique.
>If you were a reeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaal shooter you'd know optics don't make a difference

Oh fuck off. Optics reduce group spread and increase hit probability within similarly skilled shooting groups and that is statistically backed up. If optics didn't help people hit targets, people wouldn't use them.

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What's a good reason to join the Muhreens?

>>33359418
You want crippling back and knees problems before the age of 30

>>33357611
I feel you senpai.

It used to be whenever I ran across another military guy, we could always immediately start bullshitting about deployments and compare/contrasting them.

These days it's super awkward because I don't know what to talk about with them. I'm doing college now and don't advertise my military past socially, but I've gotten into a couple of conversations and it's always weird.

Same deal with tacticool talk. I got into one conversation with a neverdeployed guy and he started going on about "how it is" in combat while at the same time awkwardly taking shits on guys in his unit for having deployed and not seen "a lot" of combat.

>>33359497
What about the Reserves?

>>33359418
You enjoy eating crayons and saying "YUT YUT"

>>33359418
cooler uniform

>>33354694
I just exchanged a few texts with a Marines enlistment officer a moment ago but maybe you guys can be more helpful.

I'm a 24 yo college grad and I'm considering going to OCS but I'd like to be able to choose my career path, and I'm not sure if this is a thing in the military.

The major incentive behind my interest in enlistment is the potential for me to become a political liaison at a certain point in my career. I've worked a decent stint in a small political role on the Hill and I'm hoping that this will give me more opportunities there, as soon as I've paid my dues of course (I fully understand that I'll have to put in years of service to get there). How difficult is it to get into this career field?

>>33359635
I'm also concerned over enlistment periods and I really dread the idea of getting moved around from place to place till the age of 30. Ideally I'd like to start a family in the next 5 years but I'm not trying to do the whole military wife thing. Would I be better off in the Army with their shorter enlistments or are they just as long for officers?

>>33359635
>>33359706
Keep in mind: the Marines (and military in general) favor more technical, scientific degrees. Engineering, Computer Science, that kind of stuff. Since you worked on Capitol Hill, you should probably be okay with that.

The Marines in general, however, do not offer you a specific MOS: rather, you're assigned a certain "field" of MOSes.

Army is generally regarded as a better field due to its sheer size, generally better living conditions, higher retention rate, and ability to actually choose a specific MOS. But, if you want to bear the title of Marine and your favorite meal comes from Crayola, then sign up and get some.

>>33359635
I'll try and get as much info in here as possible for you.

Get an officer's commission. It will look like a natural progression on a CV; university, internship in Washington, military officer. You will be more exposed to the management side of things, with a greater choice in postings and a much larger pool of contacts. International transfers will be possible after a few years (exchange programs in the UK are particularly desirable, due to the political relationship and history).

There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to serve in the ranks if you want a career in the military, but if you just want a short amount of time in before you move on then make the most of your education and background.

>How difficult is it to get into this career field?
Diplomatic and political work is competitive but with the correct education and experience it's incredibly lucrative.

I'll give you an outline of a friend's path. US Army Infantry, exchange with the Brits after a tour, Special Forces when returning to the USA, Graduate degree in International Relations, SHAPE, some other NATO things and back to Washington aged 35 as a civilian with a book of worldwide contacts about a foot thick. Now he's doing very, very well for himself in the diplomatic field.

>>33359740
Good to know. I put my number down with both services but so far the Army has only called to ask if I wanted to receive junk mail from them.

Also, you make it sound as if they're picky about who they let in to OCS; I'd always assumed that the military took anyone that wasn't handicapped, crazy, or retarded? I graduated from a top 50 college and have a decent CV so far but I am completely lacking in science background. Hopefully that's sufficient.

>>33359832
I'm sold, that's exactly what I want to do (minus settling down at 35, but I can get over that). How difficult is it to get an officers commission (compared to say, earning a bachelor's degree)?

>>33359976
OCS is a lot more selective than you might think. After all: you're in charge of the lives of others.

>>33360208
What should I expect? I'm sure there's a logic based entrance exam and plenty of memorization intensive classes, but what other skills do they examine?

>>33360350

You take a test designed to attempt to weed out the complete mouthbreathers and then you have a cursory interview to see whether you're a sociopath.

After that, it is just a numbers game with a point system awarded randomly by the selection board based on your resume.

>>33359976
>How difficult is it to get an officers commission (compared to say, earning a bachelor's degree)?

That depends what kind of person you are. Some would find both difficult. Others will find one or the other difficult. The very fortunate may find both simple.

The academic demands are going to be, roughly, around the final year of a good undergraduate degree. I know this is 4chan and everyone did nuclear engineering at MIT and everyone they disagree with studied Women's Literature, but in real world terms expect something with a lot of reading and independent research - economics, political science, a good law program. It won't melt your head at an undergraduate level but it won't be simple.

One of the main issues you're going to have is that you're trying to plan a career three or four steps away from even contacting a recruiter. There are a million things between now and then. The variables are infinite, really. Do not waltz in there and tell them you want to pack it in after five years and go do something else - tell them you want a military career as an officer. When you're in you can start planning your next move.

What's Ft. Sill like for basic?

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Why is it important for firing rifle squads to synchronise and fire at the same time?

Kind of like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2dE74RiFqA

Instead of a free-for-all like the beginning of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zJnh-nYXqY

If different soldiers have a different rate of reload, surely allowing everyone to reload at their own pace, surely it will amount to a higher rate of bullets fired per minute as opposed to a fixed common time interval.

Does the silence improve accuracy or anything? I'm a newfag and have not touched a fire arm in my life and /g/ is my home board, if that's relevant. I was just wondering after reading this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firing_squad_synchronization_problem

>>33358062
That's fucking retarded honestly.

Scored a 145 or higher on every section on the army scale for the ASVAB, this put me in the 99th percentile of scorers so I'm pretty psyched. I am a collegiate rower working on an engineering degree. However, I am getting sick of the tedium of college and considering enlisting as an 18x(special forces candidate). My concern is if I were to flunk out I would hate to be an 11b(infantry) until my contract ends. Would it make more sense to pick an mos such as 12d(diver) and then attempt Special Forces. Would I get to go straight to airborne after AIT and then straight to selection or would they put me on some sort of waiting list. My recruiter said I would just need to sit with my diving unit for a month or two and then be sent to selection but I've read some horror stories about recruiters and would hate to get screwed over by someone whose job is to hit a recruit quota.

>>33360417
I already have a Bachelor's, I was just asking because it's a good point of comparison.

>>33360713
In the British Army, it was the job of the section leader (usually a Corporal) to regulate the fire. It allowed them to control the supply of ammunition and provide more effective shooting, particularly at massed ranks. Five rounds rapid would be easy to calculate how many rounds fired across a section, platoon, company, battalion and so on - simply multiply the number of men you have under your command with the number of fire orders.

>surely it will amount to a higher rate of bullets fired per minute as opposed to a fixed common time interval
No. Even with modern weaponry, you have more effective fire if the section leader controls when, where and how much. It's the difference between professional soldiers and an armed gang.

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What were to happen if when I get my physical at meps and they say I have scoliosis and I didn't tell the recruiter because when I got a X-ray it says no abnormal curvature but my plan is to play it off cause I have to get a waiver for a ear surgery I had and don't want two waivers

>>33360811
It's not a necessary one, though.

Anyone, given enough time and resources, can complete a Bachelor's degree. What you're attempting to undertake may have the rough equivalency in terms of academic requirements, but it is done over a timeframe that is not your own. It's designed to make sure you, as an individual, can meet requirements and be put in charge of a group of people.

The academic component is at degree level - which is why they expect people to hold degrees. The rest of it, as in about 90 percent, is a completely different ball game.

>>33360760

Everything you've read is true - the best way to do it is to sign for a mos you can live with and then volunteer for the special shred since if you wash out you'll be at the whim of the needs of the army, likely to end up as admin or some other high turnover low-scoring job.

Also, I feel it necessary to add to the likely chorus of people who have already told you that you're a fucking moron to drop out of college because you feel you need to prove your manhood or whatever.

>>33360822
A tip I got about the reaching for your toes is to put your thumbs together so your hand will be at the same level so they won't dq you for scoliosis. Don't know if that if actually do have scoliosis though

>>33360877
I am convinced that most of the people on this thread never go anywhere near the military, content to write out fantasies and aim to pursue a special forces career after dropping out of a basic university course.

The only reason I post here is to give advice to the one or two that actually seem as if they're going to do anything at all.

>>33360880
Thanks man I have a curvature of 8 degrees lumbaric which is so low my chiropractor suggested i should just not mention it

>>33360814
Thanks for the reply.

>It allowed them to control the supply of ammunition
>Five rounds rapid would be easy to calculate how many rounds fired across......
Okay, makes sense.

>and provide more effective shooting
>No. Even with modern weaponry, you have more effective fire if the section leader controls when, where and how much.
I get the 'how much' and 'where' and I get that it's more effective. But WHY is it more effective?

You're facing a charging melee adversary, what is it that makes controlled bursts more effective than each soldier aim, shoot, reloading as fast as they can other than to conserve ammunition. Does the lack of noise improve focus and aim? Does it decrease overlap between aiming at common enemies? Why specifically is it more effective?

>>33360896

Well, seeing as how less than one percent of Americans serve, I also find it hard to believe that this less than one percent is so dense on the weapons board of 4chan.

The community on reddit is a lot better, there are people who are obviously veterans and currently serving and have actually seen combat and have transitioned back to civilian life who will give blunt and useful advice to kids looking to join. On the usmc and army subs there are the occasional obvious spergs who you can tell are never going to set foot in a recruiting office let alone sign a contract and get on the bus, but that ratio is nothing compared to the amount of shitposting here.

>>33360917
Why bother in the first place? Why risk your own health and possibly the health of others with your fucked back?

>"I have a bent spine and I've smoked weed every day for ten years, but I'm dropping out of college to join the Special Forces. Should I start running?"
>"No dude just lie to everyone and start lifting weights"

>every /meg/ thread

>>33360935
>But WHY is it more effective?

In simple terms it allows the man with the plan to implement it and the guys to follow it. It's a drill, a set piece. You practice for it because it makes the most sense in most situations and when it comes down to it, you stick with it because everyone is familiar. In the modern sense this means that orders can be delivered in fifty words or less. The plan is then distributed to other platoons, companies and to battalion HQ. They can support and supply accordingly.

>Does the lack of noise improve focus and aim?
Yes. In that situation, voice commands were used extensively. Signals were around, but only for large set piece battles. In those policing actions that the British fought throughout the 18th and 19th centuries they had perhaps a company. The orders would come from the officer, who would instruct his platoon leaders. They would relay information from the men back through to the officer. Regular, controlled firing allowed the men to update each other and make observations which would be handed over.

They were far more sophisticated than people give them credit for, which is why they were able to control a third of the world's surface with a few battalions dotted around.

>>33360954
I'm really fit and it doesn't bother me at all but I just want to learn things from their training for infantry cause I know nothing bout that stuff and really want too

>>33358895
Join Air Force and try to become a loadmaster or boom operator. 2 best aircrew jobs

>>33355783
AFAIK You study two years. Which is why their university is not the easiest of the bunch. Make sure you're up to snuff on maths.

>>33357059
Tell her to make her choices, you'll make yours. Yours is to join, if she doesn't want to, you understand.

>>33360877
>>33360896
It's hardly to prove my manhood. I've spent quite some time thinking about this and cushy desk job as an engineer is something I never wanted. The only thing in college I enjoy is the crew team and the way I understand it the army is a great place for someone who enjoys being part of a team. A special forces career would no doubt satisfy my passion for teamwork and brotherhood. I don't doubt the value of an EE degree but I can always go back to school and if I do it after the army I can do it for much cheaper.

>>33361059
It doesn't matter if you're really fit, what matters is that you meet the health requirements. Do you meet the health requirements? If yes, there's no reason to lie. If you don't, then by lying you put yourself at massive risk. It will get found out.

This is not the same as disclosing information that they were never going to find out, before you start.

>>33361085
>A special forces career would no doubt satisfy my passion for teamwork and brotherhood

How the fuck would you know that?

You don't even know if you like soldiering. You also have commitment problems, in that you can't be bothered to finish what you started. Finish your degree, join a reserve unit whilst you're doing it and move on from there.

>cushy desk job as an engineer is something I never wanted
Any moron can be uncomfortable and there will come a day, hopefully before you waste anyone's time, when you figure that one out. Finish the degree and grow up a bit.

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>>33360997
Good stuff.

>>33354694
>tfw wanted to join military since forever
>tfw too much of a pussy for combat
>would feel like im cheating myself if i did something else
>tfw family of degnerates so would never be able to get a security clearance for something worthwhile thats non combat.

fug me

>>33361102
Well I've looked at what special forces do and after speaking with my recruiter and doing some of my own research it sounds like something I would like to do, unlike college which I went to because it was something that was expected of me.
I think its a bit of a stretch to say someone has commitment problems when all you know is that they want to do something other than college. I have a decent gpa in a school with a high ranking EE program, I've had no trouble committing to the work required to maintain a 3.6. It's just not what I'm looking to do right now.
The only real advice I'm asking for is in regards to the time frame associated with joining SF from an mos like 12d versus the fast paced 18x program. Would I be doing 12d for a few months before I go to selection or could it be years?

>>33361172
>tfw I was yearning for it.
>I wanted it my whole
>mfw my eyes are fucked and I cant pass medical.

Fuck you anon, you don't deserve that body.

>>33361172
Just join the infantry. Fuck making smart decisions in life.

At the hotel waiting for my physical tomorrow myself. Hoping to sign a contract if all goes well.

>>33361071
>AFAIK
It`s three years or nine trimesters.
>>33361172
Care to elaborate?

>>33361276
>Well I've looked at what special forces do and after speaking with my recruiter
Stop. Listen to people that have been there. 18X enlistment is just a trap for morons with romantic notions of being a badass. You will end up as a basic bitch 11B or something else entirely like an 88M. Not that there's anything wrong with those MOS'.

>Would I be doing 12d for a few months before I go to selection or could it be years?
Fill out most of an enlistment(years). When it's time to decide whether to re-up and you are an E-5 or an E-4(P), then you will be in a better position to make the decision.

>>33361102

>Finish the degree and grow up a bit.

I totally agree with this. The dude sounds like the type of kid who never had to work a bit in his life, was given allowance as a child rather than having to earn it.

He sounds like the guy who goes in and has to tell someone every five minutes that he dropped out of college to be there and with the rest of his time talks about how he can't wait to get out and get a real job and make real money.

>>33361276

Finish school and then join.

> I have a decent gpa in a school with a high ranking EE program, I've had no trouble committing to the work required to maintain a 3.6.

Yeah... you're doucher definitely. Everyone you meet in the army is going to fucking hate you.

>>33361172
>Care to elaborate?
on?

>>33361478
was meant for>>33361376

>>33361478
>tfw family of degnerates so would never be able to get a security clearance for something worthwhile thats non combat.
?

>>33361620
family is a bunch of school drop out's jail birds, drunks, and other assorted retards. i never touched any of that shit, but how does it look when an investigator comes to interview people?

>this guy comes from these people?
>ya... it would be best to not grant this guy anything. he's probably just like them, just got good at hiding it or some shit.

>>33361673

I know people who are all of the above and currently have secret clearances. I know a guy who got a dui three years ago and just got a top secret in 2016.

Quit being a faggot with the excuses. If you want to join then go talk to a recruiter, if you're too scared then stop being one of the sad fucks who goes around saying "I almost joined, but..." to everyone you see in uniform.

>>33354857
Antonio?

>>33361673
https://news.clearancejobs.com/2014/10/16/guilt-association-shady-family-members-affect-security-clearance/
https://www.quora.com/Does-having-a-relative-who-is-a-convicted-felon-prevent-you-from-obtaining-a-security-clearance
https://forum.federalsoup.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30265#post316623
Give it a try

>>33361673
What MOS are you looking into btw?

>>33361839
wasn't really sure, since i never though id be able to get in. but i wouldn't mind being an aircraft mechanic.

>>33357548
Cut back on the fisting or go to talk to navy.

>>33357548
>she
>bad mood
probably menstruating or her nudes got leaked

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How comfy are boots? I saw in Navy basic training that recruits are given Dr. Scholls insoles to help with standing all day. Does each branch do that, or just the Navy?

>>33362341

Any branch giving inserts would be news to me; you don't get inserts in Marine boot/ocs or air force bmt/ots, don't know abou the army.

>>33362453
Army-We don't get shit, just old Korean ladies telling us what our shoe size is and handing us maybe fitting jungle boots.

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>>33362475
>maybe fitting jungle boots

are they like these things? i had a pair of these when i used to play airshit. they have less than zero arch support. probably doesn't help i had a size too big. I used to wear 2 pairs of socks, or ball up a sock and put that under the arch. would they let me do that?

Headed to the MEPS hotel tomorrow. Shipping to Georgia Tuesday.

I'm excited and nervous. I packed sharpies and 2 combination locks.

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>>33362556
Pretty close, different material.

You get a set of jungle boots and a set of cold weather boots which are thicker and also shitty.

After basic, I never wore these boots for field work. Most people buy their own aftermarket stuff that fits within regs.

When I went overseas I was in units where we told regs to go fuck off used full on aftermarket, out of regs shit that actually worked. The big military ideas about boots are about 30 years out of date. It's just some shit you gotta put up with in basic and in big schools.

>>33362646

Nice. I got a ctep issue of the altama brand of that design in 2004, they look practically the same.

They were by far the best boots I ever had on deployments.

>>33362684
If it works for you, it works for you. I think high cut boots are yuck city. I wore Asolo boots in the mountains and winter and they were fucking tanks. Tough enough to deal with mountaineering bullshit, and they dealt with snow and mud like champs.

But, having personalized options over boots (low/mid/high cut) and being less autistic about having visible logos would be a good move for when people are in the field. Also blousing boots is hyper autistic and actively useless in most situations, yet the military does it. I saw another unit of dudes in Afghanistan who were instructed to, somehow, blouse their pants into their low cut issued Danner boots


But then again, I was one of those guys who pulled my hair out when people got autistic about the letter of the regulations and not the intent/common sense of following them.

Does anyone here know what mos's are available for the 2 year enlistment in the army? I can't find the list anywhere.

does anyone know where marine corps intel gets deployed? and for how long?

>>33355798
Pretty brutal from how they describe it, 8/10 people aren't gonna make it.

>>33360760
Finish school
Here is the thing, the Army is oriented around the lowest common denominator. You sound like a super star. Go officer.

If I want to be a translator in the army, do I need to know some obscure desert language beforehand or will they train me in it?

>>33363726
they'll train you

>>33362556
The shittiest boots I've ever worn. We were issued these back in 2005 in Korea. Buy danners or rocky s2v's.

>>33354734
If you want to travel go load master on a large cargo plane

>>33355798
It's tough water gets most people
If you're interested ask away

Shipping out to USAF BMT Tuesday morning.
Any last minute advice?

>>33363726

>pashto and farsi obscure

>>33364002

no they wont

>>33364338
buy some beads to hang on your chair, its good for your back.

What's your typical day like in the French Foreign Legion?

>>33355774
I hear the process of loading the B-52s with bombs literally breaks newbies' backs if they don't know what they're doing. I had an NCO lecture me at a bar about how if he ever finds out that I design something like that (aerospace engineer here), he'd personally hunt me down and beat my ass.

>>33354694
Anyone have any information on being a 15W UAV operator in the army? Whats the day to day like?

Litteraly just finished basic. Do what youre told and dont do anything stupid and you should be fine

>>33364096
How bad is it physically? I'm getting out of USMC, gonna go get smart then gonna try out for it. So i got a couple of years to train.

>>33358884
can you be stationed outside of the US?

Hows tech school at keesler? Any advice?

Honestly, how different is muhreen vs army boot camp?

>>33365704
ones longer and harder :^)

>>33365850
aside from the extra few weeks, what makes it harder? the army and the muhreens look like they do almost the same shit?

>>33365887
afaik, a big ol fuck off hike at the end for the crayon eaters
i wouldnt know tho, i dont ship for boot for another 3 months

I have an embarrassingly low GPA and I'm worried that I won't get accepted into OCS. Is under 2.5 (but not by much) even considered? It was at a top university but I doubt that's taken into account.

I have an excellent post college resume and I spent a decent amount of time as an intern for Congressional leadership in the Capitol. I've never placed below the top 5 percentile on standardized tests so I imagine I could kill it on the ASVAB but will that even be enough? I'm really desperate to get a commission but I understand if I'm just grasping at straws.

>>33365939
how long is the hike? I know cav scout has to do 20km(12mile) march with gear.

>>33366013
45 miles in gear plus extra challenges, over 54 hours, according to the internet

Is there something like Pre-basic for the Navy?
To help those with the physical fitness portion and get a certain asvab score up to even be considered for the rate they want and to met health standards.

>>33366366
I dont understand, if you are serious why dont you just train yourself before you join up.

>>33366382
Things like time and money come into play. as well as the area I live in. I've heard some recruiters will help you get in shape, thats why I was asking.

>>33366382
not him, but the local army and memereen recruiter's office has this in my town. might be something he's looking for like that.

the army recruiter has the people interested meet at the office and they go for a run a few miles to a local park and use the baseball field and open part of it for pt

>>33366366
>To help those with the physical fitness portion
Thats the whole point of basic.

The asvab is not an arbitrary test, you can take practice tests and get a high score but if you are not actually smart you will wash out of a school and end up in a rate nobody wants.

>>33366399
bellevue?

>>33366401
6'2 and 360, can't meet the standard to join to begin with. Asvab isn't a problem, I was just curious if something existed and was provided by the recruiters to help them get in shape. I've heard of some recruiters doing this is the only reason I ask.

>>33366420
BEEFCAKE

>>33366410
pardon?

>>33366429
at least I'm honest.

>>33366431
sorry, just asking where.

>>33366435
nah it's cool dude, if you want to start at running give couch25k a go, once you work down to a manageable weight you can actually start doing pushups and shit. Also I don't think the navy has a DEP, at least officially could be wrong though.

>>33366436
just go see your local recruiter and see if they do. worst they can do is say "no." there are plenty of guides and stuff online that can help get you in shape.

i will say, it is more fun and help you stay motivated when other people are doing it with you. sometimes when they get enough people and everyone did good, they would even play football or baseball with the other branch recruiters and the recruits on a day off.

>>33354694
wow look at this fuckin hipster with his mustache and cigarette I bet he listens to guitar-based music too, what a faggot

>>33366461
Thanks for the answer

>>33366468
>Live in a shitty small KY town. Local recruiter station is next town over and is next to Gamestop. Not to mention its a hole in the wall and is never bustling with people.

>>33366482
I live in a run down former manufacturing city if you want to call it that. there's no shortage of people at this office.

if the place isn't very busy, that means the recruiter may have time to work with you more 1 on 1 if he / she feels like it. where i live too, every once i a while you have a reservists that will help with the pt events. you never know unless you try, dude. the worst thing that can happen is a no. but then that means it's on you, and imagine how much pride you'll have in yourself if you do it alone. you can make it if you try. i know im just some random dude on the internet so this may not mean much, but i believe in you. not even trolling.

>>33366518
Thanks anon, that means more than you know.

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>>33354694
>Tfw no fucking clue where you're headed
>Nothing you would ever want to do
>Society is crumbling around you
>Nothing left to fight for
>Want to enlist as infantry
>Back was fucked in a car wreck

I'm thinking of rolling into a Mosque in my wheelchair with a bucket of tannerite filled with shrapnel and shooting it.

>>33366468
>sometimes when they get enough people and everyone did good, they would even play football or baseball with the other branch recruiters and the recruits on a day off.

Wtf is this shit? The military isn't supposed to to be "happy fun time!" Where is the discipline and screaming?

>>33366539
This is my exact feelings, it why I'm trying to take the initiative to get in shape and do something with my life. I don't want to feel as if I wasted it on a job. I'd like to live life and more to show for it than numbers on an atm. about to finish my first year of college and I'm not wanting to regret no joining.

Minus the accident part. Sorry Anon.

>>33357081
I just want armour and nothing else, honestly. I want to work with Coyotes pretty bad. Hopefully it shouldn't take too long

>There's a large recruitment drive coming up and quite a few trades are in the red right now for capacity including my own
That's good to know, thanks.

>>33357298
>Is UAE even a patch earning deployment it just an overseas posting?
Nope, came back a slick sleeve. Rumor has it that may change and we may be retroactively awarded it but highly doubtful
>>33357358
>3/101 or no?
Nah, but I did see them running around Camp Redleg

>>33365948
Only one way to find out.

Your grades may or may not be an impediment. Your cowardice to go and find out definitely is.

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>>33355803
Don't forget about the fumes, nasty nasty chemicals and high stress levels for 3/4 of your enlistment because shit doesn't just roll downhill in Maintenance, it is fucking launched into the lowest possible level. People in this field will fuck each other over quicker than they even realize what they're fucking someone over for
>tfw C-130 Crew Chief
>Ask me anything please show interest and give me attention

>>33364491
Yes. Please answer this question. I'm not sure if I should join or not and I want people's first-hand thoughts and experiences.

>>33357966
please respond

>>33367312
https://youtu.be/O_UIuikQtzM

Moral of the story? Start ducking learning French.

>>33367327
>ducking
What did he mean by this?

>>33367323
You serious? Artillery is artillery (you shoot big guns) and the armoured corps is the armoured corps (you drive/ride in armoured vehicles).

>>33367334
Thanks, which one is the most fun?

>>33367336
Entirely up to you and your personal preferences. Out of the two I guess I'd prefer arty but the armoured corps will probably put you closer to the action.

>>33367344
Why would you personally prefer artillery?

>>33367360
Because I'd want to play with guns the size of a small house.

https://youtu.be/aAd5SO22ivo

>>33367380
Aren't their ears and lunged completely fucked after a few years?

>>33367380
>>33367384
lungs*

>>33367384
>after a few years
ya after about 60.

>>33366540
>Where is the discipline and screaming?

He said this takes place in a public park. It would be rather bad looking to be screaming your head off at people (even if they're asking for it) in public. Someone would probably call the cops too. Whats wrong with getting some physical activity and having fun while doing it?

>>33367289
>People in this field will fuck each other over quicker than they even realize what they're fucking someone over for
give us some stories

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> whats even the point of joining the military today
If not for help with college, a meaning in life, to say you served being a nationalist and what not?
Wont it just be 4 years of standing around doing boring ass shit unless you get into a special operations unit that gets put into confidential missions /syria.
Am I the only one who wants another war?
I turned 18 when Iraq and Afghanistan was ending (2012) and was in the mindset of fuck the gubberment. But now im more of a right wing I want to serve my country but would get straight declined do to suicidal scars and NSDAP tattoos plus a hefty criminal record.... oh well...

>>33365665
Anyone?
Client systems btw

>>33366540

It's a recruitment function...
How are they gonna trick high school kids into signing a contract if they start showing them what the service is really like before they get a commitment?
Dude these recruiters basically tell kids how fun the army is until they sign a contract, then cowwadooty boy has to wait until boot camp to figure out how fucked he really is. By then, the recruiter already got what he needed, and the kid's already fucked.
Why would a recruiter intentionally make his job harder?

>>33367605

Everyone who lurks /k/ wants another war, especially those of us who lurk /meg/

>>33367788
This is why I highly encourage people to wait a few years after high school to grow up a bit before scribbling your life away for 4 years...get some modicum of real world experience and adult reality. Dont let a recruiter sell you the dream; sell it to yourself and youll have a better chance of being..."content" in the military.

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Do you guys have any advice for people trying to choose between a practical job or a combat job?

I can't decide between 19d or 35f/Air Force :/

>>33367605
Sounds like you're a huge piece of shit

>>33367821
You could join a better branch

>>33367828
shoo bully shoo

>used to be able to run almost 3 miles and was in great shape
>preparing to enlist
>go to gym first time can't remember how long
>1 mile power walk takes me 12 minutes
>use it or you will lose it

Just shoot me now /meg/

>>33367817

This is good advice. I use to think I regretted going to college first, but I was nowhere near the maturity level I needed to be to sign a contract.

>>33367384
>>33367385
You're not gonna get out of the military better for wear if you were anything but a pencil pusher or (Allah forbid) military police.

Almost any combat role will fuck up your ears anyway. At least arty wears earplugs. You can't always do that as a frontline soldier for obvious reasons.

Dunno about the lungs.

>>33367692
Ill help you out on this one.
Congrats on being a Red Wolf. Dont be a sperg that stays in his dorm room. Party but dont take time away on Security +. Also dont be that faggot who whines about the pettiest shit. Dont ever go to the Community Center for drinks, go to Shaggy's instead

>>33367958
Thanks for the advice, also my classes dont start immediately what will i be doing until then?

>>33367990
Youll be out cleaning the dormitory or cleaning the base in a program called details or AFI (awaiting further instruction)
Do them or slack off, i dont care whatever you do. Also if your a rope fuck you faggot

>>33367954
>You can't always do that as a frontline soldier for obvious reasons

Is the reason being too poor to buy activate noise canceling Surefire EP earplugs for like $15?

I swear, soldiers who still insist on not wearing earplugs because "muh twig snapping when the enemy sneaks up" are fucking retarded.

>>33368036
Thanks again anon, it should be interesting

>>33368097

Your team leader may yell at you, but sonic valves dont interfere with your hearing until a gun goes off

I want to join the marines but a few years ago I was diagnosed with eczema. Shit was all over my hand hand but it's been like six months since I've had it bad. It's barely noticeable now, only four or five tiny dots. What would be the best way of enlisting? Should I just say I don't have it and play dumb if it worsens? Should I get it checked out again? What do?

Is there a recommended workout regime for skeletons? Or should I just take /fit/'s advise, load up on protein and D3 and start exercising whenever and however?

>>33368541
if it aint that bad you could probably get it waived
a guy thats in my dep is currently getting a waiver for it

>>33360668
>What's Ft. Sill like for basic?
i went through in the summer
while doing basic rifle marksmanship qualifying it was 113°

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>>33364731

I have an application number for the same role in a different country.
Bumping question.

>>33368705
As far as I know it can't be waived due to the fact it makes you unable to receive the smallpox vaccine

>>33369143
So you're going to enlist, then when it comes to a deployment what are you going to do then?

>>33369143
ah well my mistake

>>33367793
is it wrong of us to wish for a another war? or is it only natural as mostly young men to seek out adventure and war being one of the last routes to do so makes us yearn for it. Any other kind of adventure either requires 20 years of education or is simply unlikely.

>>33367821
>I can't decide between 19d
looking at everything, that seems what i want to join.

>Just got back home from MEPS after my physical
>Passed it but couldn't sign a contract today because i have to do a test for english second language

Well that's fucking bullshit. Might have to wait a couple of more weeks to sign my contract.

Does Navy CTR travel a lot? Also how hard is it to get a TS clearance?

How does on ego about being an RDC. Do get to do it after so many years, and can you go back to your previous rate afterwards?

>>33370008
What's the physical like

What does an Infantry officer do at the platoon level? Do they still do high speed shit or are they just admin with a shittier life?

>>33370580
*cough
*relax
*dont clench
*its a cold room.

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>>33354823
>army has better funding
>army logistics is better
You know nothing about the army.

>>33370580
A lot easier than i thought. Just a lot of waiting.

Long ass brief about conduct, then filling in medical forms. This took over an hour, it sucks.

I had my urin test and blood drawn. We were 4 dudes lined up to pee in a cup while some guy watched us, some guys had problems with that but it's fine. A tip is to pee in the morning and drink lots of water because otherwise you might have protein in your urine and they could complain about that. Blood drawn is just a little needle.

Hearing test, bunch of people went into a booth and we had headphones and a clicker, listened for sounds.

Visual, just like any other eye exam.

Ortho is kinda fun really. You just do some joint mobility tests including the duck walk. Quick and easy.

Then medical exam is where they will go through all your medical papers, just make sure not to say anything stupid that could disqualify you and you're good. Don't mention frostbite you got once playing hockey or any stupid shit like that. Mine didn't pry about anything just asked questions, i said no. He said he thought i seemed like a straight shooter. So they won't ask you about week like 20 times. I got the question once and he was like yeah ok. He'll check ears, eyes, mouth, squeeze you a little then check your junk, that you have two testicles and ass for hernias etc.

Didn't see anyone being disqualified in my group. Might have forgotten something here but it's nothing to be scared of.

>>33370622
The second one.
You dont pull triggers as an infantry LT.

Newfag here. I was wondering whether I would be able to pass the basic physical for the Marines. Up until a year ago, I was essentially a skeleton with a slight gut that could barely move under his own power. Now I can do ~45 chest-to-knee crunches, 35 pushups, and can walk 5-6 miles with almost no effort whatsoever. The only issue I might have is an old leg injury that's pretty much healed. So, /k/ommandoes, will they takle me?

*take

>>33370746
>Live a grunts life with all of it's ups and downs, and downs, and downs
>Be a highly trained pencil pusher that makes more money but doesn't get to do the fun stuff
Well fuck, that's a difficult decision

>>33370750
>The only issue I might have is an old leg injury that's pretty much healed

That could be your issue. Go to a recruiter and tell them about that injury and if you can get a waiver for it. "pretty much healed" could mean you actually would have problems during the mobility tests. Can you duck walk etc properly?

Also if you used to be skellington check the weight requirements, if you're below their weight requirement for your height they won't take you period.

>>33370784
Yeah dude just keep in mind those potential 41 retarded grunts under your command are your responsibility, whatever fuckups, DUI or rapes they commit you'll get blamed for.

>>33370818
I'm around 160lbs, so that's good. As for the injury it's just a nasty scar at this point, and even that's fading.

Currently AD Air Force, can I do Army ROTC for just two years and still have a chance at an infantry branch?

>>33370818
Just tried, can duckwalk with no problems.

>>33354694
Decided to go with 68w. Did I make a good choice?

>>33370877
Yeah, if you have any visible scars you have to get a waiver for it because they'll want to know what happened, where you had it treated etc, they'll want a medical file. I had to try to dig up some medical files for a surgery i had at 6 because it left a scar. They wouldn't schedule me to meps without getting a waiver for that first. But i got one, no problem. You just have to jump through some hoops there.

So any serious injuries that leaves marks need to be waivered. Which is usually fine.

>>33370969
Thanks for the help, buddy. I'll look into that.

hey /k/, prospective ADF recruit here.
heading off to my fitness assessment in 10 minutes, got a call offering me a job yesterday afternoon with enlistment on the 3rd of April, giving me 18 hours notice for this test. should be good but doesnt stop me from being nervous as all fuck. if i pass today (have done it before anyway without much hassle) my big military career will have started.

wish me luck fellas.

ill come back wiht a quick rundown in probably 3 hours.

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I've had two medicals so far for my application.
First one i breezed through, second one gave me months of bullshit.
Had to visit my docter a week later because my urine test came up with platelets/dehydration and I had a bit of athlete's foot.
Then I had to go to an opthologist for a specialised eye test, where they give you the eye drops and paralyze your pupil so they can study your eyes.
Apparently i have BETTER than perfect vision. Didn't even know that was a thing. Made out some of the tiny letters and numbers on the bottom line.
Then i had to go to a dentist to get photos and a sign-off saying my underbite wouldn't affect my work (????).
Then I had to go back to the dentist for more photos cause they didn't like the angles of the first batch.
Then I had to go back to the dentist because they didn't like the angles of the second batch.

By the time I'd gotten my medical clearance, I'd missed my annual intake.
Maybe this year it'll finally happen.

"Hurry up and wait"
-T. Army

Is joining the army as a foreigner(german) a good idea. Since the outcome of our 2017 general election promises not to be very good for non-socialists, I thought abot leaving this shithole more than once.
I originally planned to pursue a carrier as an officer in the Bundeswehr and to study history at one of the universities, and have all german qualifications needed for this.

I heard you can only aply for the armed forces after you spent two years with a greencard in the US. What are good jobs for this duration?

I also heard you can only join enlisted ranks until you have your full citizenship. How many years does this usually take?

If I transfer from the Air Force to the Army through the blue to green program, will I have to complete all of Army basic training?

>>33371105
I'm a Swede who is currently enlisting.

You can apply to the armed forces as soon as you are a permanent resident. I went to the recruiter and started the process like 1 month after getting mine. Important to note though, only permanent resident. You can't join on a work visa or any other temporary visas.

You can't be an officer or get a security clearance as a non-citizen so you're stuck with enlisted jobs that require no clearance. You can however reclass after your initial contract is over. So you can apply to be an officer or get a security clearance once you're a citizen. So if you sign a 3 year contract you'll have to wait it out before you can try to change. You'll get your citizenship pretty fast once you graduate basic from what i understand.

>>33371228
What did you do to become your permanent resident card? As far as I understand it, you only get that over a job...

>>33369247
Go to the doc and say "what's this shit on my hand" and then they give me the alternate vaccine for people with eczema.

Soooooooooo, i took a few really bad shits over a weeks time. The shits were so bad and so hard i think i tore my asshole a little bit(dont eat nothing but ramen to survive) and now i still have a scab just on the inside of my asshole? Would this cause me to be denied?

>>33371255
Married an american woman. Pretty sweet. Took me like 3 months to get my permanent resident card after we applied after we married.

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>>33371282
>tfw you're too ugly for american citizenship

>>33371302
just find a liberal and claim you need help escaping your regime.

>>33364338
Shits easy be the gray man blend in don't stick out you'll be fine
Just be prepared for lots of waiting and doing nothing important

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>>33365458
My clas started with 112 we had 12 graduate from indoc, out of those 12 only 3 made it though the entire pipeline
Be as fit as possible 100+ perfect pushups same for sit ups 20+ pull ups absolutely perfect form for all
Run 3 mile in 18-20mins
Ruck (hump) 10-20 miles a week
Basically become a fish
50 meter underwater with ease buddy breathing ditch and dawn
YouTube a. Lot of shit there's tons of info for it
Also don't be a faggot and quite, shit sucks but it ends eventually
Picture related if you good enough one dauy

>>33365659
Yeah, but I don't know all the Cav Scout overseas stations

>>33366539
tfw I've done both and I genuinely would never trade that time for anything even though it honestly blew cocks

>>33365665
>>33367692
>>33367958
>>33367990
>>33368036
Keesler is a huge training base every local knows it
Don't be a faggot and wear your dog tags or even talk about your job nobody cares.
Shit easy tons of lame rules don't get it trouble aetc Fucks people hard for stupid shit. Youll do lame details do what you're suppose too. Don't be an overachiever or a rope nobody in the real airforce cares, they will make fun of you if they find out
You job is to learn do it and do it good
Don't Taylor your uniform or bitch aboUT stupid petty dress and appearance regs once aga in out of tech school nobody cares for the most part.
Ocean springs is a far better place to go compared to biloxi. The casinos aren't too bad.
Just don't be stupid everyone knows your military so you get fucked easily.
I was there for almost two years ask away.

Anyone know if the Kurds (YPG/Peshmerga) are still letting in volunteers? I know there was a FB page where you could talk to some recruiters but idk if it's still up.

this is a long shot, but has anyone on /k/ joined up or washed out over there?

>>33371763
i dont know of any regular trip fags who do but when they did take in volenteers all you did was walk around with a gun and sweep. You never saw combat and the foreigners who do have alot of connections.

It was suggested that a guy who was going around killing dogs at the base was from /k/ but nothing came of it. Its really not worth doing anon unless you enjoy being a pointless POG who literally does nothing to support the war effort. Also you really dont get any benefits and you have to pay your own way from your plane ticket to your gear and at times your food.

>>33371833
*You never saw combat and the western foreigners who do have combat roles only have them because they have alot of connections.

>>33371435
How much weight do you hump and at what speed?

>>33371894
That anon is obviously not a real PJ, anon.

>>33371516
You are thinking too far ahead about too much. You go to Marine OCS because you want to be a Marine Officer and nothing else. If you are almost making post-USMC plans in another branch you probably aren't going to hack it.

Also, the Marines don't enlist first. Their OCS shit is totally separate from the enlisting process. They DO have an enlisted-to-officer program but don't count on them giving up a good enlisted man when officer candidates are a dime a dozen. It's there as a way to get people to enlist mainly. If you want to be a Marine Officer you don't enlist first (assuming you have a degree or are working on one).

All that said, yeah you'd probably have to start from scratch.

>>33372006
Okay, so they do straight OCS? That's good to know.

>>33358895
USCG you can be apart of an aircrew with out college. You could go AET, AST, or AMT. To become a pilot you must go through OCS.

>>33372109
Yeah and it's a process that can take years, and you need a near perfect PFT so you better get started.

>>33354694
this cancerous general

Well, all generals are cancer of course.

>>33371894
Indoc the most is around 80lbs probably at a 12-14 min mile
At pju 120+ at the same pace 20 miles plus for days with little to no sleep

>>33371013
welp, i passed all the physical requirements and ill be shipping out for basic on the 3rd of April, best of luck to all other applicants on their journeys.

>>33372458
its good way to aggregate anecdotal evidence

>>33372363
Oh believe me, I have.

Say I get my bachelor's and then enlist. What rank can I usually come in with? Or does it vary by branch?

>>33372996
e-4 in the army

>>33358874
>I was under the impression that if you fail a single PT test or your grades drop below 3.0 you get booted out of ROTC. Am i wrong?
That's wrong.

>>33359062
They haven't been useful in decades.

Basically you'll just spend your entire time in standing around in shit tons of crappy, heavy, hot gear teaching unmotivated soldiers to do the same and then shoving them into gas chambers.

Interval training to get better at running: good or bad?

>>33368566

Starting strength

Seriously. It's not a meme

Do starting strength every other day, and on the off days, run the couch25k program. If you're already pretty good at running (8-9 min pace on a 3-4 mile run), start with a 3 mile run every other day, then start adding 1 mile per week. NOT: 1 mile per run, 1 mile total, per week. so you can split it up into 1/3 mile for each run, or add a half mile on 2 days, or put the extra mile on one day. either way, add a mile a week, and push yourself.

Make sure you stretch a lot, eat like a monster, and get 8 hrs of sleep per night

>>33369357

Who fucking cares if it's right to want it to happen? War is inevitable. we've been in constant conflicts in the middle east for like 30 years.

War's gonna happen anyway, and I want to fight

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Need Help picking:
Army ROTC
Army Enlisted (Thinking FISTer, Infantry, or Combat Engineer)
Marine OCS
Marine Enlisted (Infantry)

>>33373464
What do you want to do?

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Can someone here actually explain what an article 15 is and do?

>>33373661
Post-Service or while in the service?

>>33373931

Usually it just reduces pay and/or adds extra duty for a period of time.

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i want to have the shittiest possible experience and regret living every single day for the rest of my life. which branch?

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what 88M like? I want to drive shit all day.

>>33374056
A Nuclear Engineer on a US Navy Submarine. You'll lose your mind.

>>33374077
whats so bad about it?

>> probably marines if you hate your life and want to die. Nothing is worse then kicking down doors and being up close to badies

>>33374008
While in. People put too much emphasis on post-service, tbqh. Skills are nice, but I've seen Marines running companies and Airmen on food stamps. It's all about your connections.

>22
>no college
>always loved planes/flight
>smarter than all my marine buddies
How's Chair Force? Reserves or enlist? Haven't looked that far into it yet.. I wear glasses

what branch gives me the best chance of shooting people

>>33374502
I want to deploy while in and be a part of something bigger than myself

>>33374798

Rangers/Army SF/SEALs

or 82nd airborne or 10th mountain

Pretty much no one else is seeing combat, given that there's no war on

Leaving for Basic Training for the Airforce in two weeks.
>inb4 Chairforce
ayy

>>33374880
Try not to get nominated for Chow runner.

I want to go 11b, but I'd prefer mechanized. Is there any way to guarantee that?

>>33374918
I heard. Fuck that.

>>33374960

>I want to be an IED magnet

Never get jump training, strive for the bottom of the barrel, and you'll get stuck in a humvee for sure

>>33371509
Thanks. Just finished my first day, cant wait to get out of this initial phase

>>33374798
Navy is most likely to be developing time machines. If you get ahold of one you can travel back to 2005.

>>33374768
Shit cake except like 5 jobs
What do you want to do 6years of sowt here ask away

>>33374798
Af gunships are destroying peoplease every night and they can't get enough people

>>33363389
anywhere Marines get deployed.

Highly depends on your MOS how often you get deployed and what you will do.

>>33375087
It's lame,but at the end of the day you're getting paid to do simple shit and exist for now

>>33375087
Much have a new Ip address there, th chanz was blocked when I was there

>>33375190
I can live with that

>>33375204
Im using my cell phone data

>>33375226
If you're desperate that Internet can get you online gaming if you're close to the box thingy

>>33371509
This is true. I live in Biloxi. I love it here, actually.

>>33375162
And which 5 jobs would those be? What's the likelihood of becoming a pilot? I didn't need glasses until I was 16

>>33375289
Not sure on pilot
Pj
Cct
sowt
Tacp
Sere
I'm sure pilot shit isn't easy also

>>33375309
I'll have to google those acronyms, but thanks

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>be recruit anon sitting in RTF at Parris Island
>instructor finishes lecture
>"Drill Instructors, you got 'em."
>mfw

>>33375309
>>33375370
Wait wtf I wasn't looking for spec ops elite ground type shit, I meant like cargo planes or atc or something, I want to be around/in planes not on the ground in the thick of it

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Looking for a little advice on whether I should change my contract before I ship out August 14th...

Originally my contract was for Ground Electronics Maintenance (28xx) but I had it changed to CK, Field Artillery, specifically Fire Control today and now I'm having second thoughts.

I really want to be a forward observer (0861) or Fire Control Man (0844) but the other jobs within this MOS sound like they suck (Radar Operator and Arty Meteorological Man).

I know it's impossible to say what chances someone has in getting a specific job within an MOS but should I just change my contract back to BY if I don't have a good chance of getting 0861 or 0844? I have very high scores across the board on all my tests if that makes any difference. From what people have told me 61 and 44 is more of a job for enlisted men while the two former are more officer oriented.

At the same time is Ground Electronics Maintenance a decent job? I feel like it wouldn't be a bad idea to put in a few years in that MOS and then go and get a bachelors in Electrical Engineering or some shit and become an officer

Anyone have any experience in these MOSs that could shed some light on my questions as well as give a little information on the day to day life and responsibilities of either?

thanks /k/

A few questions for some of the Army peps on here.

1. Is 28 too old to become an Army Officer? (likely reservist or Natty Guard).

2. Recommendations for an MOS worth pursing?

I know technically there are old butter bars running around but wanted to know how common it is to see a fresh LT in their late 20s?

I've got a good job and generally in a good place in life, interested in serving my country in some capacity and doing something unique. Physically in decent shape, working on improving my run times. Lift regularly and within Army high and weight requirements. No wife, kids, tattoos, no history with drugs.

Grade wise, didn't have a great GPA (around a 3.0 in a non-STEM field) but have been steadily employed since with entry level management experience for a major IT company.

Thoughts /meg/?

More of a drunken blogpost then anything, but this seems like the right thread.

>my beliefs tell me becoming a .gov puppet is fucking stupid. I don't really give much of a shit about my beliefs, but there is still that nagging feeling.
>At the same time, my mind tells me i'm less of a man for not joining
>no real future in the civ world anyway. even as an infantryman, the military is still a better alternative economically
Just curious as to what the mindset is of fellow wannabes. Is it a genuine feeling of servin muh cuntry or is it economical/wanting to be a fighter

tl;dr:
>anti-gov loser wants to die for the jews, advice?

>>33375456
Atc is cut throat I'd advise against it
Go load master on c5 or c17
Or special missions aviation and pick gunships

>>33375902
>Is it a genuine feeling of servin muh cuntry or is it economical/wanting to be a fighter
i mean shit, i want to do it or all of those reasons.

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would the army be willing to take me for a combat role if i looked like this?

Im pretty fucking fat usually hovering between 340-350lbs standing 5'8". I want to loose the weight and i want to join the military before i turn 25, im currently 20.

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What would be the most optimal path to operating some sort of mounted machine gun in the Navy?

How do I be pic related?

>>33376356
>navy
>desert camo
>woodland camo
do they just not give a fuck. I mean i get that there is no point to camo on the ocean but i thought they had that blue digital camo.

>>33376249
You might have to have the extra skin surgically removed. I've read they have health risk like rashes or causing infections.

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>>33376477
>TFW sugery is around 3k-30k with the average being 14k.

someone start a new thread

>>33376356
that's a GM (Gunner's mate) all they do is maintenance with small arms and shoot them, that is of course assuming you get assigned to a surface ship, which isn't always a guarantee because you can also be assigned to a sub as a torpedoman GM. That being said, if there aren't a compliment of marines or SEALs aboard, if you're VBSS qualified they'll make you board ships.

new thread here >>33376826

new thread here >>33376826

new thread here >>33376826

new thread here http://boards.4chan.org/k/thread/33376826v
new thread here >>33376826

new thread here >>33376826

>>33376683

Whats the likelihood of actually begin assigned to this position, assuming I meet the qualifications.