Fake news

>>33313152
As a VA fag, I hope this doesn't lead to anything here.

>Handguns seized included .45-caliber Desert Eagle 1911s, Glocks with extended ammunition magazines and various other .45-caliber, .40-caliber, .380-caliber and 9mm weapons.

>>33313152
>Handguns seized included .45-caliber Desert Eagle 1911s
>Mossberg 715Ts

What else could NY even do? They're just as strict as Cali, if not stricter; doubly so in the city.

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Entry tier bust

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24ynHOSYEac

>>33313166
Your Dem/Rep split is awful close, but y'all gerrymander a lot, so you should be good for now. Still, it's the only thing keeping Virginia red

Great. I'm having a hard enough time dealing with the SAFE Act and I can't move yet. Already in the waiting process for a pistol permit, and just finished off a New York legal AR. I wonder how much worse it'll get.

I'm starting to believe that all these "busts" are just collected from weapons turn in drives for political purposes. No one is ever killed when they are raided and that doesn't really make a lot of sense to me.

>>33313152

What exactly could they even do to you guys? The only thing left is an outright ban.

>>33313180
holy shit, re/k/over ops when?

>>33313152
>.45-caliber Desert Eagle 1911s

>>33313657
that's like a fucking parody about gun grabber journalism.

>>33313657
Magnum Research does now make a .45 1911 and the bastards did, in fact, slap a Desert Eagle logo on it, so yes,
>.45-caliber Desert Eagle 1911s

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>>33313657

they're real, and they're about as stupid as you'd expect.

>>33313863
>>33313875
and that is in fact that was seized?

>>33313898

how am i supposed to know. what is it with people on here asking folks for sources and facts to news none of us could possible have?

>>33313152
>Glocks with extended ammunition magazines
opposed to what? extended skittle magazines?

>>33313863
>>33313875
They generally seem to be quite alright pistols, wouldn't mind one if it didn't have DEAGLE BRAND 1911 stamped on it with big letters.

>>33313636
>cetmes
no thanks

What more can go on in New York I can't buy ammo online
It would take me 12-16 months to get a pistol
Assault weapons are banned unless I want a top loading ar15
Can't have mags more than ten rounds

I hope it does get worse tho send that shit right to the Supreme Court now.

>>33313947
They could still be ok, are they Spanish made or Century rebuilds?

>>33313939
They probably are. My brother has one and says it's aight.

I can't blame MR for trying to cash in on Deagle fame, but the name was exclusive to the .50 cal for so long it's weird to see it on anything else. Thus the kids ITT who think it's a misprint.

>>33313168
scary, also retarded

>>33313961
>name was exclusive to .50 for so long
Except the .357, .41, and .44 preceeding it. As well as the .440 after it.

>>33313152
>>33313180

Amazing these 2 just so happen to come along when the EU is voting on more gun control

Fucking fake news is all it is!

>>33313953
Right now, there are two court cases floating that have a decent chance of getting supreme court attention. The first is the MD AWB that was just upheld, and as I understand has already been appealed. The second is the MA AWB, which while new, it has all the big name gun rights groups throwing their weight behind it.

The thing is, you want a loose AWB to be ruled on, not the strict bans of CA or NY. Should a loose ban be ruled unconstitutional, the bans for NY & CA would shortly be found unconstitutional as well, but the other way around, you get legislators who then make their law "less" restrictive and the "new" law has to be tried all over again.

>>33313168
>.45-caliber Desert Eagle 1911s
What the balls

>>33314286
You could try reading the thread

>>33313152
Daily reminder to hate NY. NYC fags pls die.

>>33314128
>Fucking fake news
Why would any reasonable person suspect that a continent, Europe, that has been at war virtually every decade since it's fucking existence would not have huge stockpiles of weapons?

"fake news?" - you are an imbecile.

>>33314303
You can't afford it here. Enjoy stroking your little gun in your flyoever shithole.

>>33313152
>Openly admit that state laws don't do a goddamn thing
>You can just go to another state and buy your shit or have it made
>Jump the border and sell it illegally in NY
>For whatever goddamn reason, this'll be the golden baby that allows lawmakers to pass MORE shit in NY

I'll never understand liberals or lawmakers.

>>33314273
I live in MD and I can absolutely promise you that nothing is going to change anytime soon. Beretta fucking dipped, and if that didn't change the minds of the fucking faggots writing laws here, I don't know what will.

>MD AWB was in 2013, nearly 4 years ago

Christ, it was one of the first events I had the nards to speak at, where does the time go?

>All the weapons seized were purchased legally by suspects or their straw buyers in Virginia, officials said.
>legally
>straw buyers

>>33313390
>No one is ever killed when they are raided and that doesn't really make a lot of sense to me.
What do you expect to happen? Gang members going out in a blaze of glory against trained teams that are much better equipped than they are and with the building more than likely surrounded so that they can't get away even if they do manage to kill the entry team? We're talking about regular gang members here and not people who believe fighting to the death in a situation like this gets them into heaven.

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>>33313152
>What?

>>33314628
Read the thread before posting, you stupid nigger: >>33313875

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>>33313955
considering its in spain, i'd say spanish made
>most of the weapons were deactivated weapons
>more then likely rods in the barrels

>>33313202
The split is only close in the State Senate. Republicans have an overwhelming majority in the House of Delegates.

>>33314410
Enjoy paying 2 million dollars for your 400sqft cardboard box.

>>33314753
>Gun runners were caught on tape boasting about the commonwealth’s weaker gun laws that allowed them to easily assemble their cache of weapons,

This sounds like a story from a fucking cartoon or something.

>>33314753
>>33314804
Sorry for bad quoting.

>>33314401
Europe is an union of peace.

>>33314410
Can't wait to leave. Moving to Oklahoma City where my pay will be double and my cost of living half. Oh, and it's actually America.

>>33314410
>buh muh high rent
>buh muh high cost of living
>buh muh authenticity
Even if there were no retard gun laws you'd be bled dry by tax and rent, meanwhile a store clerk, office worker or deliveryman in some smaller city in Montana is making less than you, but he has a nicer house, and more and nicer guns, along with better living standards.

Giant metropols like NY are just not very good to live in.

>>33314623
This, you don't really see this shit much at all in America, except in the movies.

Maybe you'd see it in the worse parts of Mexico, or in Honduras

>>33315177
Don't buy any fertilizer while you're there or you'll have the ATF bury their nose in your ass in a second.

>>33313152

>shows off an automatic weapon allegedly seized from the gun ring by cops.

>All the weapons seized were purchased legally

My ass these guys were trafficking fucking NFA guns.

>>33313953
Fuck the Northeast. I moved away many years ago.

No winter, great gun laws, no private motor vehicle inspections (even the dealers helped get rid of that waste of time and fuel!), low taxes and fewer libtards.

I don't miss New Jersey and you won't miss New York. Escape from New York while you still can!

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>>33313180
>you will never live in a log cabin made out of guns

>>33314410
I could afford it there, but I was smart enough to leave that crowded frozen hell which is the NY metropolitan area and the larger radius its corrupt politicians oppress.

Northeast fags can't come up with reasons to stay there. I grew up in the very nice (we zoned out nigger housing long ago) suburb of Rutherford, North Jersey.
I GTFO and live in SC, which looks like Jersey before they paved it over and is quite pleasant. If I'd kept my house I'd be paying over TEN THOUSAND FUCKING DOLLARS in property taxes alone! I have six acres and pay ~800. I consider the 9200 clams a nice yearly reward for being smart.

>>33314401
these guns came straight off a Spanish army armory to make propaganda, they're all still issued by their army ffs, you'd think they'd find AKs right? rusted up G3s maybe?
Either it's propaganda, which I'm sure it is, or it just shows how corrupt the army is, because if these guns were actually illegal guns then they were stolen and or sold by the corrupt military.

you're the imbecile, or just simply a shill, I don't know why you'd bother, no other board is more anti-EU than /k/, maybe /pol/

FUCK THE EU

t. europoor

>>33313171
>You don't need 10 bullets to kill a deer.
This is what my Governor said as to why the mag limit was initially set to 7 rnds in the safe act.

>>33315521
>Fuck the Northeast. I moved away many years ago.
Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Maine, and even Vermont are fine /k/-wise. Other than that, yeah, pretty much.

>>33315879
>Vermont
Gay communist gunclub

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>>33313180

>>33314753
>>33315440
>poorfag complain about the rents.
My parents came to NYC in early 70's and worked hard as most immigrants from Europe did at the time in factories and office buildings. They worked from nothing enough to purchase a modest 6 family row house jointly with my uncle and his wife. Each having their own apartment in the same building. Each had three kids. All of us went to college. Some I'm in financial markets, brother does commodities, sister is a forensic psychologist. I still own some real estate just cause have been doing it all my life. Cousins are teacher, large scale cabinet manufacture business, and one is a property manager for Manhattan residential buildings. We can afford to live here because we worked hard, and work hard.

Bt if you're a mechanic, drywaller, a plumber, a "veteran" who's worth exactly shit, I can see why NYC is out of your league. Just be honest about it. Don't shit on it just cause you're poor bitch.

>>33315177
Sure, but WHAT THE FUCK IS THERE TO DO IN OKLAHOMA? There's tons of shit to do in NYC. If you want a taste of the country, go Upstate. Want better weather, fly to the islands, Bahamas, PR, etc. Or maybe go to Europe. Oh, but you need money, which means you need a good job.

Fact is, if you can just up and leave NYC to go to Bubbafuck, OK, that means you have a shitty job that can easily relocate.

>>33314567
What i was thinking.

Im so glad i moved out of the nyc metropol area. That place is literally the biggest joke in the unites states. More so than commiefornia.

I dont understand hpw people dont realize that guns arent that problem in nyc.
People bringing "illegal guns" into nyc arent the problem.
Nigger shit is the problem in NYC, Everyone is on a whole lot of nigger bullshit.

>>33313180
I see a fucking STG-44 on that table.

>>33315849
IF you think it's "propaganda" then you are the imbecile. It's is likely what you stated, corrupt member of military or government selling the weapons from their own armory to Black Market dealers, which, last I heard is still ILLEGAL.

This sort of thing is not unheard of. You heard of this happening right? OR don't they tell you that on Zero Hedge, Gateway Pundit and InforWars, senpai?

>>33315879
>>33315177
>>33315440
>>33314753
>>33315555
What do you guys do for a living? Salary?

>>33313180

>CETME-Ls
And nothing of value was lost.

>>33316042
typical cityfag attitude.

>WHAT THE FUCK IS THERE TO DO IN OKLAHOMA?
I dunno, be able to drive for more than two minutes before hitting a red light.

>>33313152
>All the weapons seized were purchased legally by suspects or their straw buyers in Virginia
False. A straw purchase by law is not a legal purchase, therefore every single one of these guns purchased was an illegal gun purchase.

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>>33316042
I grew up in upstate NY. I'm a physician. NY is an absolutely toxic environment to work in as a doctor. I wasn't exaggerating when I said I'll be earning double and living at half cost.

What is there to do? How about mag dump a 30 round mag? NYC is literally pointless after your 20s and live anywhere else in the state and NYC is still dictating your life.

I intend to buy a plot of land and live in a house that is absolutely palatial by NYC standards. I will enjoy the outdoors, a good basketball team, awesome restaurants, a non-shit downtown (Manhattan is an abomination) and statists not standing on my dick.

>>33316218
>or

>>33316226
I'm the anon moving to Oklahoma btw

>>33316226
>NYC is still dictating your life
716 here, I cry every time.

>>33316230
>or
You're not comprehending what happened. 22 people were arrested. So those 22 people bought weapons with the illegal intent to smuggle them into NY and sell them without a license. That in itself is a straw purchase since the gun is not intended for them, or it's operating a firearms business without a license, federal crime of transporting firearms across state lines, etc.

Then everyone who helped acquire guns = straw purchase.

Therefore every gun was purchased illegally.

>>33316361
>So those 22 people bought weapons with the illegal intent to smuggle them into NY
Wrong, i'm usually not tinfoil but this looks falseflag af.

>>33316319
Grew up 518 but was a 716 for residency. Don't know how western New York took the pain. At least upstate has Albany for some illusion of control (it's really more NYC cancer but colonized)

>>33316042
Nobody cares about your life story. NYC sucks balls and that's all there is to it.

It's a good thing you can't get guns tho, you sound like you might shoot us all up anon, haha

>>33313180
>5 suspects
>$90k
There's no fucking way this is true

>>33316486
I'd be all for becoming New Amsterdam, too bad our already shit economy would turn into West Virginia.

>>33313166
Dude we love our guns here those laws will never change.

>>33313166
Bloomberg has been shilling gun control up and down the entire East Coast.

>>33314521
Liberals cannot apply logic to their arguments. If you listen to them during debates most of there arguments boil down to "feelings"
Lawmakers are of a higher class so none of what they draft up really affects them negatively. So they pander to the libtards and or businesses since it keeps them in office or at least there party in power.

>>33316632
>Liberals cannot apply logic to their arguments. If you listen to them during debates most of there arguments boil down to "feelings"
This statement carries no weight. You could replace liberals with conservatives, and you would be equally (if not, moreso) right.

>>33313152
Look at the size of the bayonet on that AK47. What about the children, thankfully we have officers to get these off the street. More funding now!!!

>>33313152

How can anyone hold a Tommy gun and look so decidedly not gangsta? I didn't think it was possible.

>>33316632
>liberals apply no logic to their arguments
Nor does the modern alt-right conservative, only 'muh fee-fees' disguised as 'muh morals'.

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>>33314410
>>33316042
>antigun NYC fags shitting up a thread
>Yet people will still claim reddit hasn't invaded since 2013

>>33316883
basically everything that /k/ hated at some point in the past is now infesting /k/
antigun "common sense" faggots invaded
authoritarian 'rights for me not for thee' faggots invaded
/k/ is quickly becoming the antithesis to what it used to be as every drooling, mouthbreathing retard starts to outnumber the people who were here before them
so basically, status quo, what's new?

>>33316071
no no no no no i refuse to believe.

>>33313180
>When you want to be a drug lord but also want to start a private defense company

>>33316489
I have guns, you cock. Have a NYC rifle & shotgun permit for a couple firearms, but have plenty of stuff at my house Upstate. And yes, I even registered 5 "assault rifles" with the NY State Police as required and you know why?

Because I'm not a fucking loser scumbag who will ever be in jeopardy of having "the popo do a no-knock warrant to take muh guns."

>>33316152
plenty of Cs as well

>>33316883
between newfags, youngfags, shills, and /pol/, /k/ has died

Don't say it's dying
We are already in the grave

>>33316226
>lives for mag dumps
There must be more behind this story.

I know plenty of people in the medical field, unfortunately due to being a ejected from a rolling vehicle quite some time ago(ironically in Bumble Fuck, Indiana). Luckily I made an incredible recovery after a 10 month hospitalization, almost three months in an induced coma, and nearly 2 dozen surgeries- most of the medical professionals seemed to be very happy.

Per chance, you are connected to NYU Medical center? I was on the 6th floor rehab unit for quite some time and then went over to Rusk. Had some surgeries at Tisch and only now visit doc at NYM Medical center every year for a physical.

Why are you so unhappy?

PS, I was told I needed a knee replacement after my second knee surgery when I was 26yrs old (dislocated the knee in the accident.) You're not in Orthopedics are you? Blue Cross Blue Shield?

>>33313180
I refuse to believe this is an actual bust.

It must have been some government warehouse someone forgot about.

>>33316042
you can get a job nearly anywhere in the country if you're not a womens studies major, cuck

>>33313936
And of course they mean anything over 10 round magazines, not 33 round pistol magazines.

>>33316422
You're a jackass, or terribly uneducated.

This type of thing, straw purchases, have been going on for years, decades. Happens often in Atlanta, the Carolinas, and now Virgina, or wherever it's easy to make a firearms purchase with nothing more than a drivers license, and then said guns are either given or sold privately to a broker/gun runner that will take them to NYC tri-State area (Newark, East New York, Harlem, etc) and sell them on the street.

Educate yourself before you put yourself out there looking like a fool. But if your first impression of news stories is that they are FAKE, or propaganda, seek professional help. There's a physician here, ask him for a referral for a psych doc.

>>33316486
>>33316516

Never gonna happen. Upstate is done. There is no industry. And what farms are there, dairy farms mostly pretty much primarily service NYC. All the infrastructure in Upstate NY was built on NYC money. The reservoirs belong to NYC.

Besides that, NYC taxes pay for all the white trash subsidies, State run healthcare programs, etc.. If you ever got your silly New Amsterdam, north of Albany, your "State" would go bankrupt without NYC tax dollars.

Please educate your self.

>>33317148
>This type of thing, straw purchases, have been going on for years, decades.
No shit,
>Gun runners were caught on tape boasting about the commonwealth’s weaker gun laws that allowed them to easily assemble their cache of weapons,
Nobody does this.

>>33316883
I was on this chan long before you ever were. I just don't visit has often because... life. I possess one.

>>33317113
You're job pumping septic tanks is secure

>>33317195
>>Gun runners were caught on tape boasting about the commonwealth’s weaker gun laws that allowed them to easily assemble their cache of weapons,
>Nobody does this.

The Virginia case is just the most recent one. There have been other busts of guys buying guns from one of the Southern States and having them shipped via buses like Greyhound, and there was another big case of this huge fat fuck that had a crew of people buying guns down south and ship[ping them to NY. Wish I could remember his name/nickname but there were funny photos of him being wheeled around in a big ole wheelchair by an NYPD officer to court rooms.

There are plenty of cases, and if I had any inclination that you would actually believe the "MAINB STREAMB MEDIAB" I would find them for you. But... you clearly are insane

>>33317276
>The Virginia case is just the most recent one. There have been other busts of guys buying guns from one of the Southern States and having them shipped via buses like Greyhound, and there was another big case of this huge fat fuck that had a crew of people buying guns down south and ship[ping them to NY. Wish I could remember his name/nickname but there were funny photos of him being wheeled around in a big ole wheelchair by an NYPD officer to court rooms.
No shit, stop assuming my I don't know what a straw purchase is. My issue is that the "runners" supposedly videotaped themselves like "wow sure am glad the gun laws are so loose in virginia that i can buy salt guns and bring them to NY"

>"MAINB STREAMB MEDIAB"
oh, libcuck confirmed

>>33317011
Lmao, you need a permit for rifles and shotguns? What a fucking cuck.

If you're just trying to prove how bad NYC is, you're doing a wonderful job.

>>33313180
>wide OD green hand guards on those cetmes
I need one, please Spanish pigs just send me one wide OD green hand guard for my rifle,

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>>>33316042 if you're a mechanic, drywaller, a plumber, a "veteran" who's worth exactly shit, I can see why NYC is out of your league
>working class and lower middle class people aren't welcome in NYC
>disgustandcontempt.jpg
Do you welcome the robot revolution that will ensure you never have to see poors working restaurants, grocery stores, and washing your clothes, muchless see them walking through your paradise city?

... but nah, that's not really going to happen. Automation just means NYC is going to look like this again and there will be another white flight.
It's no wonder they want to take away as many rights as possible, because poors are much easier to beat into accepting their fate when they're unarmed.

>>33317148
I work at a Texas gun store and we have 6-7 potential straw purchases a week.

>>33313875
Remember the ad that said "It took a 100 years for the 1911 to earn the right to the name DESERT EAGLE!"

I really really really hate those fucks who make those guns.

>>33313180
>the intro to the video
I'm trying my best to keep it together.

>>33317372
>you need a permit for rifles and shotguns?

That's for possession within NYC limits. Not needed to purchase and possess in rest of the State.

You whining about NY & NYC are a bunch of clueless crybabies.

>muh 2nd amendment
>molan labe

>>33317474
No, it won't. Because people in NYC know that they have to adapt to the changing world. They will find jobs elsewhere just has they have been for generations.

It's you fuckheads in bubbafuck, America that are allergic to "book learning" that whine about the changing times and can't find jobs. When the farms got sold, and the factories shut down, you got stuck holding your smegma cocks in your hands and wondering what happening... you found the answer - L I B E R A L CO M M I E S!
But it did nothing for you. You fucking ignoramus.

You just can't handle innovation, technological advances, etc. It just passes you by as you sit on your porch rocking chairs.

This is America and we have been dealing with it since it's birth. You obviously can not handle it.

>>33317479
I don't doubt it. Was just using those States as examples of common locals for NYC gun sales.

I imagine a lot of Texas guns may go over the border, yes?

>>33313166
It fucking should.
Tired of my tax money being squandered on overtime for cops trying to figure out which Somali gang member murdered this week''s Somali gang member.

>>33313953
>Prices varied between $800 and $1,200 per handgun and from $1,800 to $2,200 for assault weapons, authorities said.
Higher price means fewer buyers.

>>33317479
Do you report them or do you brave legislation to keep your business afloat
I read a stat that half of border state gun shops are only solvent because of selling to traffickers.
Considering how many thousand guns go across the border a week I wouldnt be surprised.

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>>33317873
>everyone in NYC is a highly educated, self motivated asset to society
Ok dude

>>33317097
No affiliations with those places. Honestly, unless you're pursuing academia or have family/spouse in the area, working in NYC is pants-on-head retarded. Docs are a dime a dozen there, paid like shit, treated like crap, and are objectively sued more than in other areas (the average doc gets sued twice in their career, in NYS it averages every 7 years). A lot of docs are fleeing south or just retiring. Some of my colleagues searching for jobs are getting absolutely insulting offers in NYC (offering 200k to a doctor specializing in pulmonary/critical care is insulting and other places offer as much as a half million for the same job, by comparison). Some of these people are Northeast city slickers that can't conceive of living south/southwest/Midwest because they're pig ignorant about it. These were some of the same people who were absolutely flabbergasted that Trump actually won the election. NE culture in a nutshell.

>>33317474
Holy shit, I thought movies like Death Wish were over the top portrayals but now they look spot on for the era. This looks totally post-apocalyptic

>>33318462
No. Indeed they are not. But they manage to still maintain a residence in NYC. Maybe not Manhattan, but English as a second language peeps manage to make a life in SI, Queens, Brooklyn. Even third worlders.

Do you know why? You don't. HINT, it's not welfare.

>>33316042

Hahaha, all five boroughs are shitholes filled with yuppies from "boring"places during the day, and the mutant scum that is native New Yorkers.

You literally have to make >$400k/year to live anywhere that's not a ghetto/recently gentrified ghetto.

Fuck NYC

>>33317217
Dear god New Yorkers are fucking trash. You can't possibly fathom that people can have white collar jobs outside of your concrete jungle?

Suck start your permitted 7 rd AR15 with that goofy furniture.

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>>33316042

"My parents came in the early 70s"

Hahaha, this guy is confirmed for being an Arab manlet whose parents bought shit property in the LES or Brooklyn, scraping by on the profits from their bodega.

Now that their slum tenement "row" house has increased in price by 1,200% this fag gets to pretend he's a hot shit entrepreneur from a salt of the earth family.
In reality, he's just another New York rat that got lucky because real Americans from boring states are rushing into the meme-city and causing a property bubble.

It'll crash again in the next couple decades and descend to 80s status.

>>33317474

One word:

Unions.

The entire subway city is equipped and ready to operate unmanned TODAY.

Instead, there are two people on each subway train making about $60k/ year to sit on the subway for 8 hours a day, doing literally nothing.

Because unions.

Liberal hive cities will never become fully automated.

>>33317873
gee i wonder why people don't want to live in your wonderful city, maybe it has something to do with it being filled with self important assholes

>>33317873

Manhattan is currently financially cannibalizing itself. San Francisco is too.
Won't be long before it starts to self destruct

>>33317807
>you need a permit for rifles and shotguns

>you whining about NY & NYC are a bunch of clueless crybabies

wut, our is the worst state for guns, don't be a fucky bootlicker. It's not okay that you need a permit in the city or license for handgun in the rest of the state.

>>33316042
>Bt if you're a mechanic, drywaller, a plumber, a "veteran" who's worth exactly shit

You're a fucking retard. Shitting on people who literally built the house you live in. Shitting on people who keep your car running because your faggot ass couldn't find an oil pan to save your life. Shitting on people who allow for mass hygiene so that we aren't in the same boat as India. Fuck you. You don't know shit.

>>33319257
Like I said, he's confirmed for being a kebab whose parents bought a slum for pennies and it's now worth millions just through dumb luck.

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>>33314623
>Biggest weapons seizure in history
>A police tact-team outguns them

Besides, if this is spain it was probably Eta (jihadist/rebels) who do go down fighting and if it was south america lulz fuck the police they are just another gang and not a very powerful one at that.

>>33316660
incorrect

>>33316819
you sound really fragile my dude

>>33319315
It really is.

>>33316542
Like most new yorkers he can't comprehend no one gives a fuck about his opinion and the south at least will never do that.

>>33316042
Everyone! Look at my silver spoon! LOOK AT IT!

>>33320659
>and the south at least will never do that.
As long as the south is still southern.

VA is already almost swarmed by yankee faggots. it's one of the primary reasons it voted hilldawg.

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>>33316901
Can vouche for this, been here for the past 10 years, wow Im getting old, fuck. Anyway, Its been a bleak time for the days of old when all the normietards didnt know these places existed on the interwebs. One solemn tear runs down my face and falls onto my k98 raifu post reamin n cleanin.

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>>33317873
>It's you fuckheads in bubbafuck
I'm in California in a major city. It's not as trendy as NYC, but it sure as fuck costs a lot less, but it still costs a fuckton because it's a major city in CA.

>They will find jobs elsewhere just has they have been for generations.
Automation will actually take away all those middle class jobs most of us enjoy that give us our cushy life styles. Even doctors will find that they won't be in as much demand as they are today, because machines and softerware are actually able to do diagnosiseses/analysiseses more accurately than many in the medical profession right now.

So yeah, people are going to have to shift their comfy life giving jobs to something else, like manual labor, shitty nursing jobs and other shitty service jobs that won't even come close to paying the bills like they do now.
More poors for you to whine about, who will not be happy with their future lives.

You better hope that the government is going to do something for this inevitable future or continue striping rights away to make people easier to control.

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>>33313180
Those are going to get redistributed to "refugees"

>>33321546
>machines can outperform doctors in current year

Loving every laugh

>>33315879
Vermont NFA weapons/items are BANNED.

Stupidest shit ive ever heard in my life. Used to carry my AR15 inna woods out there but couldnt bring my silencer (CT Resident at the time, now UT resident).

It was fucking absurd.

>>33321245
>that pic
who gave putin anything other than a classic AK.

>>33321666
Not him, but they used IBM Watson to find cancer treatments that thousands of Oncologists couldn't even dream of.

>>33314303
Ehh fuck you
>>33316042
And fuck you too

>>33321841
That's not even remotely the same thing

>>33314410
>flyover

Get out you cu/ck/

>>33318923
Nope. From Europe and white. Settled in Queens. Dad sold his share of the 6 senpai to my uncle and bought and we moved to better area in Glendale. I went to NYU, brother to St. Johns and sister to John Jay & Columbia.

Brother lives in Manhattan and I had an apartment on a block away from WTC. Bought my own house in Forest Hills. My parents live in my home which is big enough for all of us as they are getting older and we rent out their house to a nice immigrant family.

I bought a building in the city that had apartments and a storefront that I turned into my private office for by professional business in finance (will stay ambiguous on that front.) Turned the three units into rentals. Bought and developed a strip mall in Northern Jersey and have a 16 unit apartment complex Upstate. All mine. I just set up a small private management office to take care of the property day to day operations.

I survived the biggest fucking RE crash. I am very far from the elite righ- but I am very happy knowing that if I want to buy something or travel, I can do so without having to worry about the money.

My cousin still owns that 6fam house though and bought four others on the same block. The gentrification of the area has done very well for him indeed. And why is that a knock? He bought and held onto them, repairing them even during the 90's when the area got very bad. Very very bad. Like used to have a guy with a gun for protection sometimes to collect rent.

He played the long term investment game and it worked. Only a clueless fucking idiot wouldn't see that.

>>33318923
BTW, late 70's/80's were fucking great times for us growing up. We used to hang out in Time Square. It was a wild time. Things got crazy in the 90's though, hung out with wrong crowds in the cafes playing illegal card games and had to be strapped. Some people just can't handle it.

So you play your movie fantasy cowboy games in the streets of Retard, USA and bitch about NYC "ellites." Just know that the only reason your ancestors went west was because they were too worthless to big in in the Northeast. And you're still bitter about it.

>>33319030
They have been saying that for the past 40 years,

>>33319257
Yet you shit on New Yorkers as being elitist pigs, while extolling the virtues of vocational schooling. You're not superior and neither am I. But if you knock me, I'll knock you.

I'm from Queens, just like your boy Trump. So suck a dick.

>>33316901
>2015+2
>Not going to infinitychan

on second thought, you people can all fuck off and stew here.

>>33321546
Automation is a problem and has been for decades. It will be more so as technology develops but true automation is many many years away. Technology is increasingly being utilized but as you stated, jobs will shift to were the technology will need engineering, servicing, repair, etc.

This has alwasy been an issue in the United States and elsewhere but more vividly exposed in the States through it's transition from an agrarian society to industrialization, manufacturing and now primarily a service oriented culture.

The culprit is not Mexicans, Muzzies, etc stealing yer jobs... it's technological innovation which is apparently moving too fast for people's taste. You have to adapt and move along with it or you'll end up being a miserable fucking loser.

Which is what most red Staters have become. Because they lost their industrial communities. Their farming communities. Their towns have withered away because capitalism has brought innovation. Like it being cheaper for business to building cars in China, or get vegetables in Mexico.

Suddenly we don't like free market capitalism and want to regulate where a company can purchase or build it's wars. But you fucking like bananas, no?

It's a complex issue that isn't as simple as blaming the Liberal Commies in NYC ruining your Murica. So excuse me if I don't handle you with mittens little snowflakes.

>>33314286

https://www.magnumresearch.com/Firearms/Magnum-Research-Desert-Eagle-1911-C-Stainless.asp

maybe they were referring to this?

>>33318557
Well that's the paradox. Lots of red States travel to the Northeast for schooling and experience in the medical field and choose to stay in those high population areas because the jobs are plentiful. And as such there is sufficient competition to keep salaries marginal.

But in more rural parts of the country, there is high demand for medical professionals and few people seeking employment there so salaries increase... but the problem is not so much that people have disdain for the people. Rather, those areas don't have much else to offer these days, hence why their considered flyover country. I mean, sure, I like to go to the country and see the mountains and shit, but what the fuck man, that's all you got? I can stomach it for about 3-4 days at my home Upstate.

Would much rather travel to Europe or Central & South America than deal with pissed off uppity white trash.

>>33313875
I feel like so many more people would buy their Jerichos and 1911s and such if it didn't say fucking DESERT EAGLE down the side of the slide. This marketing move is fully retarded and really annoying.

Maybe NYC should build a wall!

And we can put the locks on the outside for everyone's safety!

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>>33322244
>>33321841
>>33321666
Actually, that is part of what i was referring to.
http://fortune.com/2012/12/04/technology-will-replace-80-of-what-doctors-do/
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/600706/ibms-automated-radiologist-can-read-images-and-medical-records/
http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/robot_invasion/2011/09/will_robots_steal_your_job_3.html
and of course
https://hbr.org/2016/10/robots-will-replace-doctors-lawyers-and-other-professionals

There's only going to be more of this as time goes on and it's going to happen before anyone comes up with what to do with us humans being left out in the cold.

>>33321666
>>33321546

A robot removed a cancerous globule tumor of some shit from my mother's kidney. Sure, there were surgeons in the room but the procedure was done in less than half the normal time I was told.

Sure, complete automated surgery is "in our future" but I'm still waiting for the fucking "flying cars" we were promised in the in the 80's.

No we know that will NEVER happen. Can you imagine, thousands of explosive laden missiles, I mean flying cars, around crashing into buildings?

>>33322984
This interesting flipside of this process is the (theoretical) post-scarcity future. If automation makes everything cheap, it may run a lot of people out of jobs and reduce them to lower paying ones, but goods and services will continue to become both better and cheaper.

The problem is that this isn't happening evenly across the board. Some goods like food can fluctuate in price/availability while others, like housing don't do it as easily. That's why in the bay area for instance, people have been pushed out of jobs by the shifting economy and subsequently out of their homes by soaring rent costs.
Ironically automation self-limits it's progress by lowering labor cost to the point that labor sporadically becomes cheaper than automation, before automation catches up again.

In theory, it would be possible for things to one day level out where most service work can be done anywhere you live (because internet), so population centers would spread out to cheaper locations. Resource farming/mining/manufacture/shipping is largely automated and cheap, so goods would be cheap enough for the meager wages of the average person to easily afford. The economy would be efficient enough for those that literally can't work to be easily taken care of with surplus. It's an idealistic daydream that doesn't take account of economic greed and government power-tripping, but I think in the vastly distant future, well beyond our lifetimes it may eventually happen.

>>33323181
Entend the wall out to Tri-State(North Jersey, NYC, Western Connecticut) area would be fine.

But then most Tri-Staters traveling do so by airports, so the wall would keep you losers from driving in. Especially Pennsylvania fuckwads.

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>>33322984
>It's a complex issue that isn't as simple as blaming the Liberal Commies in NYC ruining your Murica. So excuse me if I don't handle you with mittens little snowflakes.
Oh, I was just pointing out that that guy's a faggot who seems to believe poor people shouldn't be allowed to live in NYC because it costs too much to live there.
Hard work only gets you so far and with automation taking jobs that you need to work semi-hard to get, and only low paying jobs to make up for the loss of those middle class jobs... well, who's going to afford living there in the future?

We're going to see NYC become Detroit again in the next few decades unless someone comes up with a solution.

Must have been nice for that guy's parents to move to NYC when it was actually pretty cheap because of how bad it was in the 70s.

>>33323205
>There's only going to be more of this as time goes on and it's going to happen before anyone comes up with what to do with us humans being left out in the cold.
>>33323278
Best-case scenario...

Population levels out worldwide due to reliable, clean, reasonable standard of living.
Average person works only a few hours a week to sustain ridiculously efficient economy. Earns enough to afford goods we can only dream of at will. Due to short work week, has a lot of time to enjoy time with family, hobbies, wilderness,community, etc.

Populations fan out of crowded, overpriced cities and distribute themselves more evenly in cheaper, rural locations. This doesn't matter due to efficient energy/communications web and manufacturing/shipping so cheap it's near as makes no difference free.

Worst case scenario...

Resources we rely on currently (mostly oil) become rapidly scarce before we can adequately phase them out. Governments and business interests fight over them. Economic problems mask themselves as ethnic/ideological/religious ones and fracture societies along those fault lines.

Economies are efficient enough to make some goods cheaper, but only produce wealth for a slightly growing upper class of society, and a rapidly growing underclass who increasingly have less resources, opportunities and are generally seen as unwanted. They become increasingly angry, stupid, useless and are virtually excluded from participation in or the benefits of a shrinking worldwide economy that runs into trade barriers set up by political and economic turmoil.

The quality of life for this underclass begins to slide into the middle ages. Due to virtually no support, despite there being plenty of basic necessities to go around, the average person dies at 40, has 5 kids in the hopes that one of them will live long enough (and give enough of a shit) to take care of them in their old age of 35. They live in filth, starvation and economic exploitation wherever possible.

>>33313180
>North Spain
Oh I see the Basques are at it again...

>>33323278
This too is part of the self imposed paradox we have in this country- which is really CAPITALISM and the Free Market. Let's not limit it to just "automation" but rather to INNOVATION which covers emerging advances across many industries.

Lets use farming for example. In teh olden days, it was Mah and Pah and there one cow plowing the field. Then they got the innovative idea to do communal farming with neighbors, more man power. then they hired cheaper immigrant labor, Then Technological innovation brought in tractors. Then combines. And what few farms in the States usually have computer/gps driven combines. Eventually the buyers of the farmers products found it was cheaper to import the same products from Mexico cutting their costs while increasing their profits. This is capitalism that cause the decline of farming jobs in America and not necessarily technology and innovation.

Same thing with manufacturing. Ford motor company introduced the innovative assembly line manufacturing process reducing labor force, reducing cost. Then more innovation with robots, and eventually manufacturing parts and even entire cars outside of the State. Capitalism. We wanted this. And then we don't when it hurts us.

Because the one area that seems to refuse to innovate is the labor force.

But as stated arelier, the labor force, the jobs must and will shift as new technology and innovation in introduced. Sometime the innovation moves quicker and people get left behind - but it tends to level off with time. Until the next inovation comes along, and it always does, and the same process starts again, bitching and moaning and shifting and adapting.

That Dirty Jobs clown pisses me off when he talks about the vocational shit and the core jobs that will never change- while he does have a point, we will always need contractors, plumbers, electricians and septic pumpers, but even those fields get hit with innovation and their labor forces get more streamline.

>>33323320
Well, I'm actually the same guy. It wasn't necessarily "pretty cheap" in the 70's. Yes, my dad and uncle bought that 6-senpai for about $17k but that was 1970'2 value, and they had to work like animals in menial jobs- cleaning and factory shit. Unskilled labor. Their salaries were very marginal. They had the gas shortage and the 80's were a little tough too.

But NYC will never turn to Detroit Chicago will never turn to Detroit. La, and many other parts of Cali either. Because these highly populated areas are capable of adapting to ever changing market/culture, because they are used to it in their competitive areas.

I think people in flyover country just got complacent. Sure while their where once major hubs of farming, manufacturing.industry, they were always in the service to the big corps in Chicago and NYC. Those guys just got fucked by Free Market Capitalism because they expected to be carried along by someone else. And they're bitter about it. Plain and simple.

>>33323342
>Best-case scenario...
>Population levels out worldwide due to reliable, clean, reasonable standard of living.
>Average person works only a few hours a week to sustain ridiculously efficient economy. Earns enough to afford goods we can only dream of at will. Due to short work week, has a lot of time to enjoy time with family, hobbies, wilderness,community, etc.
>Populations fan out of crowded, overpriced cities and distribute themselves more evenly in cheaper, rural locations. This doesn't matter due to efficient energy/communications web and manufacturing/shipping so cheap it's near as makes no difference free.

Hmm... sounds so Utopian. Welcome perfect Socialism. Not gonna happen.
This country has the sin of greed, laziness, conspicuous consumption and selfishness. We want it all, and we want it cheap. We will not settle for anything else because WE"RE NUMBER ONE. WE'RE NUMBER ONE! And all the bullshit.

>>33323342
>Worst case scenario...
>Resources we rely on currently (mostly oil) become rapidly scarce before we can adequately phase them out. Governments and business interests fight over them. Economic problems mask themselves as ethnic/ideological/religious ones and fracture societies along those fault lines.
>Economies are efficient enough to make some goods cheaper, but only produce wealth for a slightly growing upper class of society, and a rapidly growing underclass who increasingly have less resources, opportunities and are generally seen as unwanted. They become increasingly angry, stupid, useless and are virtually excluded from participation in or the benefits of a shrinking worldwide economy that runs into trade barriers set up by political and economic turmoil.
>The quality of life for this underclass begins to slide into the middle ages. Due to virtually no support, despite there being plenty of basic necessities to go around, the average person dies at 40, has 5 kids in the hopes that one of them will live long enough (and give enough of a shit) to take care of them in their old age of 35. They live in filth, starvation and economic exploitation wherever possible.

The true elites, big corporations and government paramours who protect them will always serve themselves at the expense of lower classes (middle class and low income.)

We are seeing it lt now LIVE on the public scale but people just don't want to believe it. Teh fact remains since the 1950's, when taxes were the highest, this country was at it's peak because most of that money went into infrastructure and development and manufacturing. We were actually more Socialist at the point then were ever were. And things were good.

But then we saw shift and more power to the rich, their taxes fell and the spent less on developing and insuring their labor force, and sought to cut their costs by utilizing innovation. Things have never been the same & never will be. The working class has no power.

>>33323469
Well... you say that but we're seeing elements of both scenarios happen.

Remember how expensive it used to be to ship everything? Nowadays almost any online business worth their salt offers some form of free shipping, or can at least do it dime on the dollar compared to what it was 20 years ago.

Tech has gotten much cheaper and better. We've seen an explosion in the internet and computer technology, all of which is accessible to just about anyone. Even cars (despite an autistic and IMO partially harmful obsession with safety) have gotten cheaper (adjusted for inflation), better equipped and much more sophisticated than they were on average in the past, even 20 years ago.

Crime has gone way down, poverty has fluctuated but on average gone down, worldwide conflicts still happen but on a much smaller scale, with less destruction and end faster, with more rapid recovery than ever.
We're starting to develop viable energy advancements and even talking about moon bases and exploring Mars.

Progress is easy to take for granted, so it tends to go unnoticed, while crisis gets coverage first/foremost. It's easy to be a pessimist until you look around a bit. I think we are in a major transitional phase, it's bumpy, and it can become damn near apocalyptic if it plays out poorly, but I think it will eventually level out on a world so good we can't even imagine.
That doesn't require communism per se, just a general drive to work together and come up with good solutions to various problems on a large scale. We've definitely proved hit-or-miss on that, but even 51% hit is progress. As long as we don't nuke ourselves I think we'll get there, but how bad it'll get along the way depends on a whole host of factors I can't even imagine.

/k/ - noguns newyorker blogs

>>33323494
This is true. My biggest worry is greed/corruption bogging the current positive progress feedback loop down and a confused underclass turning on each other instead of addressing class warfare.

It really hinges, at least in America, on one thing. Campaign contributions. It's basically legalized corruption. It changes the entire mindset and purpose of the government away from looking after the interests of the American people and towards the interests of the biggest bidders.

Big economic interests can exercise their power in very toxic ways, retarding overall human progress that doesn't benefit them. We saw this in the gilded age. It was a mixed bag since some really incredible stuff was accomplished, but it was built on a large pile of bodies.
The disaster of the USSR and Communist China proved that true socialism doesn't really exist or work either, but the government does have a job to function as an agent on behalf of the public to ensure that big businesses function as overall positive actors. But because of lobbying, that isn't happening. Some businesses, even entire industries use government to stunt competition, benefit themselves and fuck over the consumer. The government could and should do something, but since that's not in the interests of the people running it, the response is schizophrenic at best.

>>33323518
I agree with everything you said. The US took major hits with the Dotm Bomb, and the Real Estate Bubble but things are moving well and people are working. Or at least those people who WANT to work are working. I am not talking about the poor, but it seems like most of the people are are really complain are the lower middle class who work in those menial labor/service jobs. It's my contention that they are the one who have been left being by innovation and their lack of ability or will to adapt to it, in whatever way possible. And they choose scapegoats... easy one like the poor or fucking immigrants.

Europe is experience their own versions of hardships that we got in the 2000's and they too have chosen their scapegoats.

This nationalist wave is mind boggling to me. Even if you got rid of all those immigrants, the Mexicans, the Muzzies, the refuges whatever, they will still be left with their greatest foe- INNOVATION.

When you think about it, immigration is at the very core of innovation if you want to get exhistential about it. They are people who choose something new, a new place, a new job, a new life. Exactly what this Country was built upon.

Europe is a different animal. Where it once was that, a couple thousands years ago, their Innovation and wealth came though colonization, and appropriate of resources, IE greed. What they seem to be experiencing now is a little bit of chickens coming home to roost. They have to deal with it. But the closed borders type bullshit is not going to work. You have a workforce that you can use, they, just need to figure out an innovative way to use them. They haven't yet.

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>>33323532
Oh, sorry bitch. Here's a pic from a "noguns newyorker"
It's an old pic but it's mine and regularly gets shot out to 1000 yards at Forbes, and yes, she's registered as an "assault weapon" with the scary New York State Puh-lice.

This one stay Upstate with the scary guns, and doesn't go to NYC, that's for FUDD type guns.

Now fuck off.

>>33323605
for all the fun and excitement and living you claim to be doing up there, you sure have a lot of time to be typing all these drawn-out essays on a mongolian flyfishing forum.. and if the place hypothetically so great, should't it be able to speak for itself? why are you so insecure about it, is it cognitive dissonance? you have no choice to be stuck in that cold smelly shithole, so you rationalize the best you can? who are you really trying to convince of nyc's amazeballsness, us or yourself?

t. ft lauderdale fag

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>>33323438
>But NYC will never turn to Detroit
Bitch, over a million people left NYC during the 70s and 80s. Much more than those who left Detroit.
It took 3 decades for NYC to return to its 1970s population.

Only reason NYC isn't large swaths of empty ghetto like Detroit is because its so dense. It sure as fuck had a shit ton of empty square miles of post-apocalyptic areas anyway, such as where you said family bought into the housing. You want to say that it was expensive back then, but prices were freefalling throughout the 70s. So compared to other places, it's a no duh why they picked the time and place.

>capable of adapting to ever changing market/culture
I don't think you can adapt to middle class jobs disappearing and/or being replaced only with lower class jobs. That requires the federal government, who will also need to be handling every other city in the country.

>>33316042
I take solace in the fact that I can go outside and not smell exhaust. I can open my window and shoot shit from my toilet. I can dick around on dirt bikes. Dress however the fuck I want and get plastered with a few friends.
I have enough saved to visit any country I wanted, I sometimes do. But apart from Ski season home is where I can have the most fun.

You probably dislike it because your fat and the authenticity hurts.

>>33323645
Oh yes, I am suffering.

I was on overnight markets champ waiting to close some contracts. Cutting out now just as Japan opens up as I covered my ass.

Goodnight Florida. I have 4 hours of sleep to grab.

Good talking to the other intelligent tards here, though. It beats the imbeciles on /pol/

Until next time.

>>33313180
Any chance Spain is desperate enough to sell these toys to FFL importers?

>>33313152
I don't know who that is, but damn is he ugly. His face is pissing me off just looking at it.

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>>33314410
You are PLATINUM MAD.

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>>33314739
House of Delegates? Sounds interesting...

>>33314401
Because it doesn't align with my world views like all fake news. You wanna see some real news then just look for anything I agreed with before it was reported

>>33316819
The bible is sound logic for making laws anon

>>33313180
nothing to do with a bust, these weapons were deactivated prop guns.
However according to the law they were not deactivated enough, and could be ready for reactivation.

Hmmm, what's this smell ? IT'S THE SMELL OF BULLSHIT !

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>>33314551

I'm also a MD fag. Half the shit on that list is extremely uncommon. The major annoying things is that no 7.62x39 ak and a lot of battle rifles were btfo.

Pic related was just unbanned

>>33316152
>implying
Nigga, those are Early Model CETME L's. Those were made by a third party and have a better quality control than the late models when the Spanish decided to fuck design over

>>33324069
It's almost like the system for deactivating guns is universally perfect

>>33316042
>Want better weather, fly to the islands, Bahamas, PR
>PR
New Yorkers and New York Ricans need not to apply, go ruin some other state
>t. ELA

>>33323667
I think you're completely full of shit, Mr. NYC.

>>33313152
That man has the most pinchable cheeks i've ever seen, but not in a good way, like i want to rip a piece of his cheeks off and run away with it. Im getting angry just look at his face.

>>33317011
So you have a neutered rifle and think you can enjoy the same experience as me? Da Nile apparently runs through New York.

>>33317873
It's a wonder you can type and not make any errors, what with your head so far up your own ass.

>>33313152

We're supposed to believe that gun-runners have that much inventory on-hand at a given time?

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Jesus christ, I always wondered why /k/ had an almost blind hatred of NYC and its residents, but now I can see why with this guy shitting up the thread
>Snobby holier than thou attitude
>Actually defending the fact you need a license to buy basic shotguns and rifles while paying fees every couple years.
>Defending the fact you need to REGISTER every gun with the NYPD
>We city people are smarter and way more adaptable than you country heathen. We do not have any problems whatsoever.
>I'm better than you because I can afford million dollar houses and apartments in upscale neighborhoods
I was born and raised (and still live) in NYC, but I hope I don't meet someone as big of a jackass as this.
Its people like this who are ruining firearms laws for everyone in the rest of the state. To top it off, he does it while being a prick to everyone

>>33313152

>arms legally bought
>NY trying to regulate interstate commerce

The constitutionality of this bust is highly questionable

>>33316319
Also 716 this ban shit sucks.
Really want a handgun but I think it's unconstitutional so I don't bother

>>33323320
>We're going to see NYC become Detroit again in the next few decades unless someone comes up with a solution.

No, because gentrification and development push the poorfags out. It's a fine case for "rich people only" cities. They can pay what the market will bear so why not? NYC used to be amazingly nasty but when you destroy bad housing stock and replace it with businesses instead of apartments quality of life is much better.

Detroit died because of automotive monoculture, horrible location in frozen hell, and because old infrastructure isn't economic to destroy and replace. Development should erase the past. It's cheaper to abandon Detroit.

NYC is doing superbly. I don't care to live there because I hate cities and enjoy living with FEWER RULES. Those who need NYC will live there and everyone wins.

BTW doctor incomes buy a lot more in "flyover country" than elsewhere, and they can afford to travel the globe with their money. Why live in an apartement when you can buy an estate? Why have only one car when you can have a ten bay garage and stock it as you like? Why travel to shoot when you can do that at home? Freedom is a valid choice just as "culture addiction" to cities is a valid choice, but you can't afford to retire in many cities. Who wants to work into their sixties? Fuck that.

The urban zealots sell their shit when they retire then bolt to Florida to retire for good reason.

>>33323065
My father was born in the Bronx. Still have family in NYC. I lived in Brooklyn for 2 years and I had my fill. The bullshit/cool shit ratio is severely out of whack. You can only go to so many bars before they all look the same. People are rude and shallow and it's simply because humans are disposable there. Spending literally hours a day stuck in a cattle car and living in a shoe box isn't worth it. You're acting like the alternative to NYC is living in Barrow, Alaska. The quality of life you'd enjoy living in OKC, Dallas, and Houston is vastly superior to NYC. It isn't just living in the country (and you're a legit city slicker if you frame that as a negative).

NYC makes sense if you're in finance, academia, or fashion/modeling/acting

>>33323205
Please explain to me how machines will learn to place central lines and have complicated discussions regarding goals of care and advanced directives.

I'm sure you'll enjoy a computer telling your family you had a massive stroke and are brain dead.

>>33323274
I think you're referring to a Da Vinci machine. It's operated by a surgeon.

>>33325739

Cities are also great for food service. I was a bar manager in DC and could make rent in a weekend.

>>33323274

Flying cars were always a stupid idea. People can't even handle two dimensions of travel after we've had cars for over a fucking century.

>>33323605
Dreadful you need to scatter your property across the state for fear of the government

>>33325825

When I lived in NYC my car stayed in a storage unit in NJ because monthly fees for a parking spot were more than what most people pay in rent.

NYC was fun but after two years I was ready to shoot myself with the gun I wasn't supposed to have.

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>>33316042
>There's tons of shit to do in NYC. If you want a taste of the country, go Upstate. Want better weather, fly to the islands, Bahamas, PR, etc. Or maybe go to Europe.

Dude, you realize you just said there's tons of shit to do in NYC then went on to list all of the reasons to leave...

>>33325858
And living in NYC it's a big pain in the ass to be able to to leave the city limits, unless you garage a car, which is useless within city limits, and costs as much as rent

>>33325930

Owning a car in NYC is the epitomy of stupidity. I bought a motorcycle and if I absolutely needed a car I'd rent one.

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>>33323438
Pictured: NYC "adapting" to the modern world

>>33325979

Delete this nephew

>>33325973
Both major pains in the ass. Enjoy getting your organs harvested because a tourist was staring up at a building instead of minding the road

>>33313152
>".45-caliber Desert Eagle 1911s"
>nigger, what?

>>33325973
In the heart of the city, it kinda is
However in the areas outside the manhattan, public transit is pretty much complete garbage/nonexistant and cars become pretty useful again

>>33325858

That guy is probably some trust fund faggot living in Park Slope who can't handle a little cold or the sight of people with less money than him.

In the 2 years i lived there I never ran out of shit to do in NYC. I would literally just walk around the city for 12-14 hours a day on my days off and was never bored.

>>33326009
I lived in Park Slope for two years. I had fun but was done after that. Too many people, not enough nature, way too expensive, and too much hassle to literally do anything. it was fun banging all the slutty girls that moved there because "sex in the city" was what they imprinted on (it's almost effortless) but much like these one night stands it's nothing I'd want to build my life around

>>33326040

I was in Queens and worked in Manhattan. Shit was great but I needed a break. I may go back eventually but probably not until I'm in my 40s.

>>33326075
40 year old men in Manhattan are just depressing. Don't do it to yourself

>>33326091

Depends on your line of work really. I'm in the restaurant industry and most of the older guys I met there were either extremely happy professional servers/bartenders making assloads of money (low to mid 6 figures most likely) or were alcoholic/pill addicted walking trainwrecks likely to suck-start a shotgun any minute.

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>>33326142
Anthony, is that you?

>>33326232

Funny enough I worked with a guy that legit looked like Bourdain down to the hair. He was 6'6" and wasn't heroin emaciated though.

I never met on Bourdain but I have served Thomas Keller(awesome dude), Batali(energetic but very nice), and David Chang(fucking asshole.)

>>33323667

LMAO.

Now Abdul has done some research on the conditions to make his retarded claims plausible, so he's claiming to be in his 50s.

Fucking amazing display of autism.

>>33326398

He's RPing as a rich person on 4chan. Pathetic.

Probably some dumb hick who thinks the only people that live in the city are lawyers, doctors, or work on wall street. All 8 million of them.

>>33325752
KEK.

You're seriously trying to imply that families make better decisions?

Hahaha, healthcare and patient outcomes would be so much better if we had robots telling families

"No. We're not doing a full code on this 99 year old bag of meat chock full of VRE"

>>33326621
No, doctors are able to lead discussions and guide the family toward proper medical decision making while being sensitive and understanding of their perspective and cultural values

https://youtu.be/b9PyR71Aefk
This is the future you chose.

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>>33313152
>>33313152
>>33313152
>All 217 weapons were purchased through one NYPD cop, working undercover and making multiple buys.

You can't buy more than like 3 guns without the ATF giving you a visit, this is pure fucking bullshit.

>>33325752
please refer to my original statement:
>Even doctors will find that they won't be in as much demand as they are today
Even things about unions are wrong, since automation did replace various jobs, leaving behind just a few token workers.
Unions can't save every job and they've weakened a whole lot in the modern age anyway.

>>33328416
Doctors are in huge demand. We have a massive physician shortage and we're desperately trying to make mid-levels fill in the gap (which they're not equipped to do). I'm not too worried

>>33313180
They confiscated the drill press as well?!?

>>33324093
Wait wait wait, what is that and how is it unbanned/when?

>>33316042
>pays insane prices for very little
>justifies it by saying it's worth so much

NYC sucks balls and so do you

>>>/lgbt/

>>33316042
NYC fag here.
It sucks ass,man. Its great to explore and shit if you're willing to spend money. Even the illegal guns are fucking bullshit. Everywhere in NY STATE is red aside from the major fucking cities which are all liberal. I can't wait to move away.

>>33313152
This article reads like an advertisement for gun smugglers.

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>>33314128
>>33314128
>>33314128
>>33314128
>>33314128
This guy gets it.

>>33316042
Why are coastal Americans so disdainful and vicious to the Midwest? I hear this shit all day in Portland too.

>>33328971
>Doctors are in huge demand [i]right now.[/i]
keywords.

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Why are the safety selectors backwards on the ARs?

>>33317011
>Have a NYC rifle & shotgun permit for a couple firearms, but have plenty of stuff at my house Upstate. And yes, I even registered 5 "assault rifles" with the NY State Police

you have do to all that just for a basic bitch rifle. and a cucked one at that.

meanwhile all I have to do is chat with the old guy who runs my LGS.

>>33314636
Anyone posting about not knowing about a .45 ACP Desert Eagle 1911 has never stepped inside a fucking gun store and cringing at it's billboard.

>>33316042
Kill yourself and stay in your hellhole of a city.

>>33330009
Because those ARs and AKs are fucking Mossberg 702 plinkers and fucking Mossberg Blazers, Niggers keep buying them thinking they're actually AKs and ARs. They don't even fucking know the difference of 5.56/7.62x39 vs 22LR.

>>33330244
>Mossberg Blazer
Well, that answers my second question, too. lol

>>33323494
Except coloreds and gays were the underclasses. There has always been an underclass.

>>33313152
he has such tiny hands

>>33317011
>complying with the SAFE Act
How does it feel being cucked

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>>33318923
NYC would still be the shithole of the 70s and 80s if it weren't for the city putting an army of police on every block that has money.

>>33326662

LMAO.

Work one fucking day in an ICU and check back with me you fucking clown.

The family will demand an extra week of CPR on a patient that had their head chopped off by an axe.

>>33328971

> Doctors are in huge demand in rural bumfuck areas and ghetto good places

FIXED THAT 4 U SEMFAMPAI

>>33317488
Damn and here I was thinking about getting a gold tiger stripe desert eagle in .50 for fun reasons but if they are going to diss John mother fucking Browning they can shove their desert eagles up their asses.

>>33317488
I saw that in American Rifleman 6 years ago. Turned me off to anything associated with them.

>>33332449
Are you kidding ? I am LITERALLY an ICU physician. I'm the one leading them away from such preposterous crap and making them feel like they did the right thing. So no, you don't get to tell me what my job is like.

>>33313180
>>33313180
thats not a bust its obviously a armory, they are all the same rifle

>>33333839
Oh really?
Why didn't you understand what VRE means, then?

What's the name you give to someone if you want to decrease the oxygen demand from the heart?

How can a broken bone cause lung problems?

>>33329000
Assault drill

>>33318025
Maybe you should take care of ypur nigger problem and fuck right off

>>33335507

Are you retarded? Of course I know what vre is, it wasn't relevant to the discussion.

I'm assuming you're asking what drug reduces oxygen demand to the heart. I'm not going to presume you're ignorant and think only one drug does this. For example, nitrates and beta blockers do a great job of decreasing oxygen demand of the heart. Hell, certain ventilator strategies can do that too.

How can a broken rib cause breathing problems? A pneumothorax caused by a broken rib can be pretty disasterous. A flail chest after trauma also can cause breathing problems.

Do you have any other weak-ass pleb-tier questions you want to throw my way?

>>33335935
Hey you "fake" docs, what the procedure called when they place a sleeve of some shit over an a torn aorta with a psudeoaneurysm? I forgot what they called it.

I had this done after my motor vehicle accident. Had the tear in the common area for steering wheel impact- at the left sublavian artery on the aortic isthmus. They cut me open from left side and did a temporary femoral bypass. What do they use, polypropolene?

BTW, I did have several broken ribs and bilateral pnuemothorax. Damage to the liver, gallbladder(removed), even the stomach may of been ruptured. Bisection of the intestines too.

Some other shit too. And then I had some post traumatic illnesses and complications that made things difficult, hehe. I was a mess. Whenever I talk to docs and give them my medical history (all stemming from this MVA) they are blown away by the fact that I am still walking and talking.

>>33336752
i broke my arm once

>>33336830
You must have suffered greatly.

In addition to what I stated, I cracked my skull open on the crown, busted the orbital socket, fractured by pelvis, dislocated my knee, and broken the fifth metatarsal (the fucking pinky toe bone, lol)

After all that shit, had an "eye turn," bacterial infections- presumably from the shit in my guts spilling in my abdominal cavity, viral severe pneuomona probably from hospital staff poor hygiene, ARDS, and GUILLIANE-FUCKING-BARRE syndrome. Had a tracheo-esophageal fistuala(hole rub from airpipe to food pipe) from the trache being in my throat for prolonged period.

Some heavy shit, man. 15 years later, and nearly 2 dozen surgeries, just need a knee replacement from that same fucked knee.

But the name of that aorta sleeve procedure escapes me.

>>33336939
Sounds like you had a hell of a clinical course. You were either young, tough, lucky, or a combination of all 3 to bounce back from all that.

As for what you're asking, I believe you're describing endovascular stent grafting. To be fair, I'm not a vascular surgeon and the last time I scrubbed into such a procedure was a decade ago when I was a wee medical student.

>>33337311
>young, tough, lucky, or a combination of all 3 to bounce back from all that.

Indeed. But also an incredible medical staff from top-down.

Thanks for your time. Take care, bro,

>>33335935

[Trump]
W R O N G
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Question 1 is MS2 shit, you pathetic sperg.
The answer is Mona B.

Beta blockers do nothing to oxygen demand. They affect chronotropy and that's it. You're overestimating the effects of cardioselective BB on the beta 1 receptor.

Nitrates aren't going to do shit either.

Every doc that's ever been in ANY ED or ICU knows that MORPHINE is the drug of choice for reducing the oxygen load the heart needs

Question 2.) Is a little trickier, but a real M.D. Would've known the answer.

Femur fractures are known to be major risk factors for PE. That's why you always protect and monitor any patients with major long bone fractures.

B T F O

>>33337925

I forgot to LOL at the fact that you think nitrates would ever be used in the inpatient setting.

Did you Google a medical book from the 1950s?

>>33313657
>Extraneous Adjectives: Marketing Fake News Edition
Fuck i hate this shit.
Same with auto makers
>Jeep Wrangler Rubicon Hard Rock -
Limited Edition
Its a single fucking vehicle model but it has a seven-word name
Fuck if i was a car salesmn i'd be ashamed to even say it outloud. Marketing hype bullshit. Its a god damn jeep.

>>33337925
Are you being purposefully retarded at this point?

Morphine is given during MI mainly for pain control, to reduce catecholamine release; vasodilatory effects are minor and secondary. Beta blockers, nitro, blood pressor control are all critical things to decrease oxygen demand on the heart. A cardiologist would slap the shit out of you for saying otherwise. Of course, you deserve what you get for coming to an ER doc for your understanding of acs management. They push morphine, give aspirin, an inch of nitropaste , and call the cardiologist to take over.

And when the fuck did we start talking about pulmonary embolisms? You asked about rib fractures causing dyspnea.

You either googled this bullshit up, are being purposefully retarded, or you're a first year medical student who doesn't really understand what he's talking about. It's time to stop. You're literally talking about things you have a demonstrable poor understanding of

>>33313875
Big 'G'
G for gangster?

>>33313936
Porno magazines.
Big Boob titles especially

>>33314628
The presence of thomspons makes me suspicious. Those are fucking collectable, not 'illegal gangster weapons'. False Flag as fuck

>>33338056

You are fake news.

Google "what is ventricular pre-load?
How do I reduce it using medicine?

How did I make it through medical school without learning this?

Why am I retarded?"

I asked how broken bones could affect the lungs.

A PE due to long bone fracture is a broken bone affecting the lungs.

Nobody brought up ribs except you.

>>33338056
It's obvious to everyone that you're one of those paramedics that goes around telling everyone you "know so much more than the doctors"

>>33314410
I'd rather be in a fly over city than a fly into city

>>33338228
Read that broken bone as rib for some reason. Yes, femoral fracture can cause a fat emboli. It usually takes a couple of days. I still answered your question.

The drugs I mentioned reduce oxygen demand on the heart. I answered your question. Prove me wrong. You can't. You're being a contrarian faggot who can't handle that his questions are hugely broad and have many acceptable answers.

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>>33338370
No, I'm a pulmonary/critical care doctor. What do you do?

>>33338480

> usually it takes a couple of days

Are you seriously copy pasting, or are you just dumb?

You're mixing the two mechanisms for fracture PE.
One school of thought is that it's a literal embolus causing a blockage.
The other believes it's the release of _______ from within the bone that predisposes the patient to a clot. This would explain why these fracture PEs are only seen in people who already have a high Chad score.

If you subscribe to the fat glob mechanism, what reasonable thing could possibly cause it to take a few days for the tiny pieces of fat to reach the lungs?

A factor response to the fracture, however, could take a few days.

If you actually are an M.D. I feel bad for your patients.


BONUS ROUND:

New to ICU from telly:
MRSA in lower foot 2° to injury. DMII.
You go into the room to check on them in the morning since brand new overnight nurse had them.
Their neck and chest is red as a beet with no obvious reason.
No swelling.
Normal RR. patient is AOx3.

What's the cause of the redness?

>>33338944
The symptom free interval of a fat PE is 12-72 hours. I can give you citations for this if you need to study for your shelf exam. I lectured on this a couple months ago. If you're still going on the subject of fat PE (as opposed to a good old fashioned blood clot PE) you're struggling to refer to the mechanical theory vs the biochemical theory. The mech theory posits fat globules cause physical obstruction of the vasculature. The problem with this theory is that it doesn't explain symptom delay commonly seen in fat PE. The biochem theory posits fat globules are broken down to toxic intermediaries such as free fatty acids and c reactive protein. On paper the latter seems more plausible than the former but again, were discussing theory here.

>>33338944
Didn't answer your bonus round. What you left out is what antibiotics you're using but I'm presuming you're referring to red man syndrome due to vancomycin. I'd slow down the infusion and give some Benadryl. I'd inform the patient that they're not allergic to vancomycin.

>>33338495
Why is everyone on 4chan an engineer, doctor, or physicist?

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>>33339247
There's a reason /pol is always right

>>33339175

Yet another example where you didn't know anything till I gave you the answer, suddenly you're an expert who lectures. TOP KEK

Please, post the links you just read.
I'd love to see what resources you're coming from after I taught you something.

LOL. I might have to start billing you for all this pimping.
You're learning more from me than you ever did in school.

>>33329028
Another MDfag reporting in, if it was purchased pre2013 it's grandfathered in.

>>33339325
Poor attempt at trolling noted. You sound like a bitter PA. Don't worry, I'll still come in and rescue your patient after your boss messes up.

Rajoor Ug, Seema BN, Sindhur JC. “Fat Embolism Syndrome: A Review”. Scholars Journal of Applied Medical Sciences. 2014. 2: 466-469.

S Jain, M Mittal, A Kansal, Y Singh, PR Kolar, Renu Saigal. “Fat Embolism Syndrome”. JAPI. 2008. Volume 56. 245-249.

U Galway, J Tetzlaff, R Helfand. “Acute Fatal Fat Embolism Syndrome in Bilateral Total Knee Arthroplasty- A Review of Fat Embolism Syndrome”. The Internet Journal of Anesthesiology. 2008. Volume 19 Number 2.

Here's a few review articles so you can impress your boss. I can't do much for your poor communication skills.

>>33317190
>too bad our already shit economy would turn into West Virginia.
Did I say it would be a good thing you tit?

>>33339214
> assume
Nigga if it's MRSA what the fuck else are you gonna use

>>33337674
That's pretty awesome you got through all that and have such a positive outlook. Best of luck and good heath in the future.

>>33339516

> all of your lit is nearly a decade old

Sad af

>>33317190
>money is all that matters
NYC jew detected

>>33340028
Wow. For real? Have you considered bactrim, clindamycin, dapto, tigecycline, linezolid to name a few? Hell, in certain situations you may even be able to pull off doxycycline.

>>33340038
>2014
> nearly a decade old

My sources had to be free so you could actually access it. Heaven forbid I assume you have a subscription to NEJM or something. Feel free to argue a point if you find something in a simple review article you find out of date.

>>33340084

KEK.
You fell into my trap, you idiot.

Those are only appropriate for OUTPATIENT infections.

Dapto is only effective in 2% of inpatient cases. Literally who
Thanks for trying and googling so hard.

>>33340136
maybe he's a doctor in Pakistan or something

>>33340084
There is a huge difference between community acquired mrsa and hospital acquired mrsa.
Think spider bite vs gangrenous deep wounds.

>>33340136
>he thinks vancomycin is the only way to treat a mrsa foot infection

https://www.idsociety.org/uploadedFiles/IDSA/Guidelines-Patient_Care/PDF_Library/2012%20Diabetic%20Foot%20Infections%20Guideline.pdf

Everything about you screams mid-level. You don't understand nuance in medicine and love to fixate on cookbook rote treatment. You don't understand why you give morphine in acls, you don't know how to treat a diabetic foot infection, and you can barely form a coherent sentence. I hope your physician supervisor keeps you on a tight leash because I'm worried you're otherwise killing people.

>>33340250
*acs

/k/ = medical jargon.

Don't get me wrong. This is entertaining as hell.

>>33340250

Bruh SMZ/TMP isn't going to work for anything mrsa related in any hospital, ever.
Doxy is never going to work for anything except spider/animal mrsa.
If the microbe is resistant to vanc, you're fucked.
You're also totally ignorant of what linezolid is for.


You literally listed outpatient medications in a discussion about ICU treatment of mrsa.
There's no recovering from that.
Google "how to treat someone that doesn't know when to give up"

That's like someone talking about using bandaids in a TKA.

It's time to stop posting.

>>33318707
>HINT, it's not welfare.

It actually is. But I imagine since your a dumb fucking asshole you only think welfare = literally cash given to poor people. There are plenty of social welfare programs that include housing subsidies, WIC/EBT, public services, healthcare subsidies etc.

>>33340392
I post the society guidelines of infectious disease doctors saying you're wrong and you continue with this crap. You're either willfully ignorant or a fucking retard. You haven't given a single citation for any of the garbage you've been spouting in this thread. Put up for shut up, clown. Give me a citation saying vancomycin is your only choice for a diabetic foot infection.

>>33340465

You're googling IDSA guidelines on mrsa susceptibility.

Bactrim & doxy would never, ever, under any circumstances, for any reason, ever be used for inpatient in the ICU.
Literally never

>>33321666
>>machines can outperform doctors in current year
>Loving every laugh

They're right though. Doctors have a hard time thinking analytically. Even historically the medical profession has been touted as an "art" rather than a science and it was more about who you learned from than what you actually knew. Doctors (MDs, DDSs etc.) also tend to think of themselves as the intellectual equals of Doctors in other specialized subjects even if they are completely ignorant of that subject (history, international relations, politics, literature, language, Mathematics, Engineering etc.).

tl;dr Doctors are terrible at prediction because they can't think critically, and they are arrogant as fuck.

Philip Tetlock talks about it in his book "Super Forecasting".

>>33340495
You're moving goalposts and deflecting. Post a citation stating vancomycin is your only choice for a severe diabetic infection or admit you were talking out of your ass (which you were).

I'd have more respect for you if you just admitted you were wrong. Ignorance and arrogance are a deadly combination in medicine.

>>33322819
>From Europe and white.
Turkey isn't Europe. Turkish isn't white.

Just a heads up.

>>33317873
Automatization will hit liberals first. Fuck liberals.
t. programmer

>>33340535

Ok, I know your autism is causing you to focus too strongly on one tiny verbal technicality (the word ONLY) that you're trying to use to make yourself correct.

Let me explain what just happened to you, Adam Lanza.

I posted

"What else are you gonna use"
because I knew you would immediately Google "antibiotics to treat mrsa"

I did this because there is a huge difference in hospital vs outpatient treatments.
However, in all publicly available sources, these treatment options are listed together with no distinction.
I knew you would post them together as equally effective options.

This is the incorrect answer no matter what, always.

This is called a trap.

You got trapped, baited into posting something hilariously stupid, and you wrecked yourself because you didn't check yourself.

>>33340673
It's a shitty trap. I posted that vancomycin is not the only drug that can treat mrsa, then listed a bunch of antibiotics with mrsa activity. You conflate this with an endorsement that I would advocate PO antibiotics in a critically ill patient in septic shock, which as much as your little heart burns with the desires me to, I did not advocate.

Speaking of advocating, im still waiting for you to provide a source on why vancomycin is your only choice for severe diabetic foot infections with MRSA. You should stop replying with diarrhea and find a citation to put me in my place.

>>33313180
>Hescos made from CETME-Ls....
all of my want.

>>33317011

A good little peasant, who registered his guns and can now never leave them to anyone or sell them except through an FFL out of state where you lose half the value.

Motherfuckers like you are the problem in this state. Kneel and Bobs.

>>33313970
he meant the original pistol, not the many calibers it was available in.

>>33340746

KEK. A fine Lanza move, anon.

"N... No I didn't post what I posted... I... I meant something else. "
Another common misconception among laymen.

"Septic shock" is not always related to infection.

What medication (hint- it's a pressor) would you give to someone with sepsis who has a blood pressure of 87/41???

>>33340880
So you don't have a citation, I take it? You'd get ragdolled in my unit. We practice evidence based medicine there.

>>33340919
Lol this dudes backed into his autistic corner

>>33329774
they fear what they don't understand. and they are forever butthurt because they got a swirlie from a country boy after coming out in the fourth grade, and a black eye after trying to hit on him in the sixth.

>>33340919
>>33340746
>>33340535
>>33340465
>>33340250

I bet this is the same guy posting about his family's property earlier in the thread

>>33341038
Nah, I was arguing with that twat too.

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>>33339247
I'm not. I'm a homeless vet who works at a machine shop and shitposts from his phone while charging it from his broke ass car outside the shelter.
pic related is the car.

>>33341102
Woah, you're kinda like Mad Max

>>33340803
>lives in New York State, doesn't know it's laws.

>>33341130
except fat, noguns, and pathetic.
and my car is an even shittier specimen than I am.

McCauliff is just waiting for the slightest cracks to fuck VA.

>>33341170
Save up some cash and get a place? I'm sure things will perk up. You've got resiliency and I wouldn't be so down in yourself.

>>33340958
That little shit probably disappeared since he can't back up a single thing he says

Upstate New York should secede

>>33341209
The autist arguing that vancomycin is the only option for hospital acquired mrsa was right, though.
If it's not susceptible to mrsa it's vrsa. Lol

>>33329028
>>33339411
The arsenal slr104-31 was approved for sale by the Maryland police

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>>33313152
>Glocks with extended ammunition magazines
Do liberals think that magazines are built into the gun? Like, if you want a thirty round magazine, you have to buy a thirty round Glock?