Battle Rifle General

>>33238785
>>>/lgbt/

>>33238785
More like wanna be nuttinfancy general.
Holy shit son.

>a whole general dedicated to sexually confused twinks
i thought the mentally ill couldnt own guns

when's FN getting their shit together?
I've been waiting for some plastic for 7 months now

>>33238785
>$3000 meme rifle
>airshit optic
brg in a nutshell

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>>33238820
wrong

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>>33238822
>7 months

>>33238850
https://www.reddit.com/

>>33238857
I already paid in full, too
and the store wont give me a refund

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>>33238966
thats gay

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>>33238785

I guess its about that time again.

>>33239081
>Pictured - Terrible paint job
>Not Pictured - Retard

Thinking of a 7.62x54r vepr or .308 p91. Or something similar. I really like veprs though.

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>>33239087
rude

>>33239153
You really should ip that skirt.

is the jewlil ACE 308 worth it lads?

>>33240036
no

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>>33238785
anyone got experience with a SIG751 SAPR? What is /k/ opinion of it?
I didnt found much talking about it going on here yet

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>>33240778
Stgw 57 is better.

>>33240800
why?

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>>33238785
Hello :3
(Sorry for vz58 on my photo)

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>>33240818

Hyperexpensive Swiss Roller Delay.

Its a pretty OK gun if you discount the fact that its chambered in Snowflakes and is terribly expensive compared to other rifles of similar performance and era.

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You guys know intermediate cartridges exist, right?

>>33240884
>hyperexpensive
>Snowflakes chambering

But anon, these sound more like negative points caompared to the SIG751

>>33240818
Because the two (probably) latent homosexuals in the desert, said it...

A few moments later Karl performed "mud test" deep inside Ian...

>>33240915
>SIG 751
You mean the one that's not for sale anywhere?

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>>33240915

Hence why I said if you discount them. Nothing wrong with the basic design, its just that unless you live in Switzerland literally nothing about it is cost effective.

>>33240905

You wouldn't want an intermediate penis, would you?

>>33240952
I would rather go with a 7 inch penis than a 14 inch, yeah.

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MDR when

Also why are you fags derailing thread, let the trannt be ffs

>>33240987
Never.

Trip on tranny.

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I'm thinking about getting a Vepr .308 16 inch barrel.

From what I've read barrel length doesn't affect accuracy, and I'm short at 5'7" so I think the 16 inch barrel will be fine.

The price is $750. Is that a good price? Is there anything I should know about Vepr? Good choice?

>>33241049
because the slant cut on the back of the reciever you're not gonna be able to fit regular AK stocks on it. Not sure on the pistol grip.
People do make SVD like stocks for them I believe.

>>33240971
>Wanting your targets to enjoy their experience.

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>>33241071

They make adapters for slant receivers to accept pistol grips and even AR-style stocks iirc. There are quite a few... interesting conversions out there.

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how do poodle shooters justify this?

>>33240778

Have one, it's great.

Nobody talks about them because burgers can't get them and for the rest other options are less expensive.

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Too cheap out and get a razor 1-6 and get a 16s or mk23 or get a k16i or mk8 cqbss

Tough call

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Here's a kinda crappy picture of my scout. I need to take more pictures of this gun.

I've since bedded it and did a trigger job.

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>>33241215

idk

Looking to get my hands on a fal/l1a1 clone. Who makes them apart from dsa?

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>>33241716

Literally just DSA, if you're looking for new shit.

Anything else is a parts kit build, or preban.

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>>33238785
Post lewds faggot

>>33241454
>Don't Talk To Me Or My Son Ever Again

>>33240778
I want it

>>33241331
Do you know how the recoil compared to other battle rifles like the SCAR or FAL?

Do you also clean it with the steel brush they give you in the army?

>>33242775

There's a lot less recoil than in a FAL. I can't speak for the SCAR though, never shot that.

It comes with it's own cleaning kit so I just use that. The tools are mostly the same though, just different bore brushes.

This may be/probably a stupid question, but can a DMR be considered a battle rifle, or are they in a whol different class?

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>>33242982
A battle rifle is basically an assault rifle chambered in a full-power cartridge, so a .308 DMR is as much a battle rifle as a Mk12 is an assault rifle.

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>>33242982

The same platform can be both, as in the case of the G3 -> PSG1, the M14 -> M21, and the FAL -> That weird Irish DMR FAL.

That being said, they perform very different roles, so no. A DMR, although it may be the same platform, is not a BR because it fills a very different role.

>>33243083
>>33243051
Thanks. The reason I asked is because I've always wanted to participate in these threads but I only have a DMR.

Time to save up my nickles for a FAL.

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>para parts still not here
>brad says they shoulda been here today

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>33242038
>no glass
Never understood a rifle with just irons.

>>33238785
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCBhgFIektY&index=19&list=PLcD-55qGfj4fbRq4KWPnnjcICKz_K1s33

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>>33238890
OP literally submitted this exact image to /r/guns.
https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/5y85oi/30817/

>>33245478
Top comment:
>xXxWirtyXDoorxXx Fabulous dresser [S] 126 points 12 hours ago*
>My FN SCAR® 17S in 7.62x51 REAL FN' NATO in the most basic whitegirl UGG™ stock, basic tryhard Magpul™ AFG, Chinese™ rail covers, and a fACOG 100% almost hits on the ridicule. I shot her for the first time in a while with the irons on a light rainy day in my yard and remembered how nice it was to shoot modern .308 semiautos (big 3 arent modern).

>>33245478
How new are you to /brg/? He infected Plebbit, not the other way around.

>>33245590
Well that explains why r/guns seems to be to /k/ what T_D is to /pol/.

>>33244451
because those focus sights are good af, that's why. not everyone wants an EOTech or Vortex mall-ninjaing their rifle.

>>33245715
So put something nice on it

>>33245737
>Buys youse-self sumtin nice babe

getting lewd

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Who /fal/ here?
>>33245715
>optics are mall ninja
Shoot yourself

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>>33246148
Someday.

>>33245548
>>33245478
He's been on /k/ for 4 years. I think he's earned his place.

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>>33246343
>4 years
He's been on reddit almost as long as that.

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>>33246148
What's the deal with the one on the left?

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>>33246498
He is mixed race AR15 FAL

>>33246498
>What's the deal with the one on the left?
Zika.

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>>33246343
>tfw youve been browsing 4chan for 8 years

>>33240905
That's a fucking lie, now get out

>>33238994
Is it true that only faggots buy black SCARs?

>>33246957
no, but only poor people DON'T buy scars.

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>>33246645
If that's your face I think you might have bigger problems.

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>>33246995
>yfw you dont know what tfw stands for

>>33246957
The only remotely good reason I can imagine for buying a black SCAR is if one were a LEO buying one as a patrol rifle and his department had a (retarded) "all patrol rifles must be black" policy.

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>>33247098
What if you want to pretend youre in Battlefield 2: Special Forces DLC?

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>>33247112
Then you'd need a weird prototype version and a 30-round extendo clip.

>>33238790
fpbp

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>>33247098
There are other reasons

>>33240952
>You wouldn't want an intermediate penis, would you?
Literally the only reason any of you own an FAL right here.

>>33250240
>Saves the thread
>Tries to be salty at the same time

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fags

>>33250584
I like the curve of your mag sir

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>>33250584
Why is this board so infested with attention seeking homos and some of the most autistic trips

I just want to talk about guns, but I can't go two threads without somebody posting or requesting (and soon receiving) ass pics and etc.

>>>/lgbt/

Please go.

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>>33250902
And so you thought you'd improve things by posting a cartoon frog?

So how does shooting a SCAR 17S compare to the older battle rifles, or, say, a nugget? How controllable is it? How's the recoil?

>>33251289
It's more like shooting an intermediate cartridges rifle than a full power cartridge.

MGW has 20" SCAR 17 barrels in stock.

>>33250925
Historically, posting cartoon frogs has lead to nothing but good things.

>>33252555
>Two of the most overrated stocks next to each other

>>33244451
not all of us are shit shots that need optics to be on paper at 100 yards like you.

>>33252579
Paid 135 total for the pair

Good deal desu, I like both

>>33251289
Its like shooting an ar with 25% more recoil.

>>33252587
You shoot 308 just at 100 yards?
/brg/ is for fags

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>>33252579
The Crane stock definitely isn't all it's cracked up to be (>needing to remove your stock to access your emergency Skittles), but the CAR stock is legitimately a superb choice if you want an extremely lightweight stock that gives you something to brace against your shoulder and face against and NOTHING else.

>>33250925
God, I had that Ludic scope, and it was absolutely terrible. Eye relief was just bad, and the reticle was canted 15 degrees clockwise. Thankfully I was able to return it. Maybe you got lucky and it's an okay economy scope.

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FML, I just bought a 104FR a week ago, Have a vaporware rifle +optic I am buying next month, and now there is a DSA sa58 Para fal 21" with rhodie paint already on it for 1400 bid on gunbroker. I really hate having to be somewhat responsible with my money.

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>>33253721
>buying a dsa para

Fucking disgusting tbhfam

There's some 50.63s on FAL Files right now

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>>33253721
>not using original rhodie parts
>>33253738
Have you actually ever seen any FAL fail? I've seen a century R1A1 un-headspace mid shot but never a DSA. Not trying to be a dismissive asshole just wondering why the DSA hate

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>>33253777
Because then I can look down on him while spending a rifle's worth of money for half a para FAL of belgian parts

I don't think it'll fail or anything but it'll never be as nice of a rifle imo, but I haven't messed with any new DSA besides a voyager

>>33253721
>vaporware rifle [...]I am buying next month
>implying the MDR is actually coming out in April and won't be delayed again

>>33241454
Nice rifle, Todd

which is the poorfaggiest battle rifle

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>>33254476
PTR

>>33254476
Norinco M14, because Norinco

>>33238785

Is an M1A good for anything other than casual shooting?

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>>33254505
BHD cosplay

>>33254505
see >>33254565

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>>33254505
Causing "It Ain't Me" to start playing.

>>33254321
Shhhhhh. No one can know I'm here.

>>33254505
With some accurizing they can be stupid accurate guns.

>>33254156
It'll be out about the same time as Star Citizen and Half-Life 3.

>>33254669
For a few hundred, maybe a few thousand rounds, then they need to be accurized again because they've shot themselves loose. And God help you if you drop one onto a hard surface.

>>33254694
I never said they were perfect haha, They are a shit load of fun though.

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>>33254505
Hunting, sport, yes as >>33254669 said you can accurize it if you want to do competition.

For non-shooting purposes...
triggering fudds who are scared of "assault weapons" by showing them a semi-auto that has a larger caliber than 5.56 (or bonus points if you change the stock out to something more modernized to trigger them harder)
For shouting about being American, or what >>33254638 said
To avoid bullshit with the 1994 "Assault Weapon" ban if you live in such a state, as the Springfield Armory M1A is listed as a by-name exclusion (such as within Massachusetts, but please confirm laws yourself if you ever think about things like this)
Because you like stripper clips, and loading by them

>>33254694
I do wonder if guns accurized as heavily or are already highly MOA/sub MOA would survive maintaining accuracy if dropped as well. I admit, I'm not heavily knowledgable on the MOA game, so I don't pretend to know.

If I could improve the MOA to a decent standard while still keeping it survivable to a degree, I'd be fine with doing that.

>mfw getting a modernized JAE-100 G3 stock is >1k
Thank fuck I have no other wastes of my money. Still don't know if I want it though. Not to be a fudd, but do I love the walnut.

What's a good sling for an M1A? I'd rather sling the gal while I'm heading down to the range than carry her with one hand and the rest of my shit in the other.

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>>33254554
This is literally the only reason I want one.

>>33254926
It depends on how they're accurized. With M1A's one of the biggest things is the bedding, which, depending what you use can get fucked up over time. Although it's not particularly hard to rebed an M1A provided you've got the tools.

Hell you got me wanting to shoot a group, drop mine, shoot a group, drop it, and repeat a few times to see what happens.

I need to get mine on paper first though. Haven't shot the fucking thing outside of a test fire into a snail after I did the trigger job.

>>33255021
afraid of saying trap on /brg/?

>>33255021
It's a good question, dunno. Bedding I imagine can be a bitch, but again I'm no expert... if I do any amount of accurizing on mine, it's definitely going to be from a gunsmith, I don't trust myself yet as a new owner to do something like that.
If you do try it out, let us know at least. Curious how quickly the groups start to widen out.

I need to get paper myself, thus far all I've shot are old bowling pins and a shot to hell tractor tire.
Yes, I live innawoods. It's comfy.

>>33255021
>shoot a group, drop mine, shoot a group, drop it, and repeat a few times
Get it on video, post to Youtube
Trigger all the NM Fudds

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>>33255086
It's not bad, but then again. I am a gunsmith haha.

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>>33255172
This was right after I knocked it out of the stock post-bedding so it's rough as fuck, but you get the idea. Ended up having to rebed a couple spots on this.

>>33255229
What compound is that?

>>33255172
>>33255229
Very general idea, but aye, I get you.
One day I'll have knowledge on that type of stuff. Just for now, baby steps.

Dumb as bricks question, but I figure what stock you use contributes/dissuades from how well one can bed it, no?

>>33255316
Marine-Tex

>>33255341
Definitely, the wood ones are the easiest. The older synthetic stocks had some kind of weird release agent in them that made it a pain in the ass to get bedding compound to stick, and they also had a lot of flex so the bedding could just pop out.

This is one of the newer production SA synthetic stocks and it took the bedding really well. I still went in with a dremel and made it look like swiss cheese before I bedded it haha.

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I love all of you.

>>33255420
Just got my atlas today.
Picking up the LMT from the gunsmith tomorrow to put it on.

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>>33255383
I assume newer synthetics don't have this issue anymore, or is it still a problem...?

Funny that wood is easiest.

>>33255420
Leupold MK6 3-18 or CQBSS for a SCAR 17?

>>33255598
Z8i BRT-I

>>33255598
If your going to go CQBSS your going to want the H27D reticle, this is more. Second hand your looking at close to $3k, and there are none really out there right now, or I would have gobbled one up since my nightforce got moved.

If your going to go 3-18, pick up one the 20" barrels MGW has up.
http://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/scar-parts/98818

>>33241195
What furniture you got on there f a m?

>>33255642
I can get a CQBSS with the H27D new for around $2,600 if that's worth it. I'll look at those 20" barrels too

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>>33255686
If I could find one at that price I would order it tonight.

>>33255710
>lefty

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>>33255781
Not mine, I just want a CQBSS bad

>>33255794
What does a CQBSS do that an Accupower won't, beside look uglier?

>>33255710
>>33255686
>>33255642
Why is the H27D so popular compared to the other reticles?

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>>33255831
Its reticle is bright as fuck in daylight.
The other ones, not as much

>>33255813
Good glass, daylight bright, not just visible reticle.

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>>33255686
CQBSSes are pretty rockin' and if I could get a deal like that on one I'd buy it and then call a doctor (b/c of the erection lasting more than four hours)

I might settle and get a k16i and curse myself for missing out on the other 2x.

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>/brg/ can't stay off page ten for beans
>we perpetually have at least three SCAR 17 threads going at any given time
Why?

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>>33258161
Because this is the Boys who are Really Gay general

Most of us just happen to like .308 rifles as a second hobby

>>33258161
>that fuckhuge elcan

god dammit I want one. inb4 spectre dr a shit

>>33258250
The SpecterDR is fine, it's the mandatory ARMS mount that's shit.

>>33258161
Because I've had better battle rifle discussions in completely unrelated threads than have ever been in /brg/.

>>33254669
>>33254694
>>33254926

Could it be a rifle that I can depend on? In a defensive scenario?

>>33260479
I mean, yeah. Unless the barrel length is a problem for you, there are shorter variants...

The main issue people have with it is accurizing, which really isn't an issue unless you want to shoot longe range. For home defense or general defense, it'll do fine.
The other thing some people don't realise is they start getting bad MOA/groupings and they blame the rifle, but the mount/optic is mounted in a funky way... some mounts for it are shit, frankly. If you're just using irons, you'll be fine.

Why, what concerns do you have with "depending" on it in a defensive scenario?

>>33260687

I saw a few Inrangetv vids when they put mud and sand in it and it got all fucked up, I have no intention of doing that at all, I'm just concerned how easy it would be to get it jammed up like that without necessarily having to slop fistfulls of sand and mud on it.

>>33262310
They're reliable guns when you're not physically dumping mud and sand into the fucking thing.

Any suggestions on an MLOK handguard that fits DPMS low profile spec?

The slow creep of my recreational spending cycle has come back around to firearms, and I'm probably going to focus on the M&P10 I've had sitting around for two years.

Was looking at the JL Billet options. Any others I should consider?

>>33262366
SLR rifleworks

>>33255420
How'd you get that in blue? I'm honestly curious

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>>33255671
>>33241195
Anyone?

>>33246645
>tfw you've been browsing 4chan since 2005...

So what FAL can I buy that is not utter shit.

http://www.armslist.com/posts/6416681/everett-washington-rifles-for-sale-trade--l1a1--308

I saw this on my local listings and for 600 bucks I'm wondering how shitty are CAI FALs

>>33263512
>CAI
Hell no, that's worse than DSA. The retard selling it apparently can't even read the receiver markings to tell you who made it.

>>33263578

Where can I find a good FAL, I don't want to buy the pristine STG58 on Gunsamerica because I'm going to put optics and shit on it.

>>33238785
>fACOG

>>33238994
sakuya when did you get a scar?

>>33246148
I have a reciever and barrel and a stock (stripped)
I'm trying to scrape together the cash for the rest of the parts but FUCKING HELL I need the cash for other shit.

>>33262817
Its Alumahyde

>>33262823
Slavshit, who cares

>>33263640
Buy a parts kit, there are precious few of them left.

>>33266081

But I don't trust my self to build one, I was thinking with the CAI FAL I posted, considering buying and getting it gunsmiths if needed.

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>>33266165
Gather the parts, send them off to a gunsmith, sprinkle in some money. Wait. Get gun sent back to your FFL!

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>want to buy an OBR
>dont want to wait 2 years

>>33266195
Go on the arfcom EE and snipershide (were back to the old domain, not that scout shit). Post a WTB thing.

>>33266177

Finally found a local builder in Washington; Blackwell Industries.

I'll look for some parts, preferably an inch pattern

>>33266267
>inch pattern
Good hunting anon, good hunting

>>33266081
Fuck you then

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Should I go with a FDE ACOG or black acog for my FDE scar 17?

>>33269782

Black, just in case you do sell it. I would think it would be easier to unload.

Hey guys, where would I get a three position FAL selector. No safety sear or anything like that, I just want to be able to flip it to the third position.

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>>33238785
Can anyone explain what the point of this thing is?

>>33271187
iirc it levels the magazine so if it's resting it won't form an angle sloping downwards.

Are they any plastic flip up lens covers for the Hensoldt scopes. The rubber covers are starting to crack.

>>33271187
The baseplate?
Holds the spring in
If you mean the plastic portion of it, its part magpul, part shock absorber/abalative armor for the mag, also can use it as a monopod

>>33269782
Why not put something nice on a SCAR?

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Whats up fags?

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What would be the going price for a pre ban HK91? I know a guy who is selling one. It's in very good condition. I just have no idea if 4k is a ripoff or not. Figured this is the place to ask.

>>33266081
Gib link to parts kit anon

>>33276356
Pre-ban anything is, by definition, a ripoff.
The question is how badly do you want it vs how badly are you willing to get ripped off.

>>33276390
Act fast
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=411567

>>33276356
2-3k

>>33238785
>>33242038
>>33255794
>>33271187
>>33255420
Why is the folding stock standard on SCAR-Hs? How often does fn expect you to be jumping out of airplanes?

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>>33276671
As with everything else about the SCAR, "because that's what USSOCOM asked for."

>>33276671
Are you really asking that question?

>>33276496

Hopefully those will be available in June/July. If not I'll have to pick up a SCAR.

>>33276730
Those wont, others will
http://whatacountry.com/Imbel-FAL-Parts-Kit.aspx
These guys have had them in stock for awhile, but they are a little rough from I understand.

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>>33240778
I'ma whore for the 55X guns I want one real bad. but sig will never import them.

I got a 308 lower today, and I'm going to put a side charging upper on it does that count as battle rifle?

>>33276867
>side charging upper
No, it counts as a mistake.

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>>33276867
>he mixed and matched receivers
uhh, sure?

>>33276867
>sidecharging

Don't do this

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>>33240873
lets talk about those socks, what kind of kick are you on, son?

>>33276496
There's no way I'm reading this Right. $525 that's it?

>>33276941
ayup

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Why the fuck do you have to adjust the gas port on the FAL everytime you change ammo?

>>33276904
It's almost like I'm waiting for them to put the uppers on sale or something. they're just moving into the AR-308 platform.

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>>33276906
>>33276896

why are they bad?

>>33276758

Ehh, if they go it's OK, I'm really trying to find an L1A1 kit anyways.

>>33277000
>checked
The REPR side charging uppers are pretty righteous. But thats basically just an FAL charging handle on them.

The AR ones are made by ASA(?) and hence are shit

>>33276459

Roller delayed stuff is, by and large, a ripoff. The exception is the PTR. If you're paying 4k for a 91 while the SCAR 17S exists, you're either an HK collector or a moron.

>>33277205
>paying $1000 for a PTR when you can get an AR10 for less
Its stilll a ripoff

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Just got my scope on my MR762, gonna shoot it tomorrow.

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And with his older brother when I first got it.

>>33277898
>three pound scope
holy hell

>>33277237

There are no good AR10s for $1000. All of them cost substantially more.

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>>33277939
The 417 is a magnet for that kind of shit.
>Fact: the G28 is called that because that's how many kilograms it weighs empty

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>>33278002
I guess.
I just got this fucker complete, and compared to my SCAR, its a monster.

>>33277995
http://www.atlantictactical.com/product/smith-and-wesson-m-and-p-10-18-inch-308-rifle-leo/smith-and-wesson-rifles#.WMTdtn-dXHU

>substantial

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>>33277939
Yeah it is definitely a beast with the scope, doesn't feel bad though.

>>33278074
I was down at their HQ last month. The AMG was fucking tits, but that one you got there was pretty slick too.

I just cant get over that weight

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>>33240873
Which FAL variant is that?

>>33278142
commonwealth

>>33278038

I said GOOD AR10s. Like LMT and H&K.

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>>33278159
Compared to a PTR, the S&W is good

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>>33278074
>bolt on mount
>BUIS

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>>33278159
Nutnfancy seems to like his.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JPnPFp2G44

>>33278179
Just never removed them. Can still use them when I wanna do irons, pretty easy.

>>33255420
every time I see your blue SCAR I want to rub my penis against it

>>33278220
Can always retorque the mount on I guess.
Im looking to replace the NF unimount on mine, came with the scope, can probably sell it for what halfway okay QD mount will go for

>>33278168

Having owned and shot both, they're about even. The m&p left me wanting more, especially since getting spare parts for it is a fucking NIGHTMARE and so much is proprietary or in the least common .308 AR pattern (seriously who fucking decided on DPMS low profile). I sold it rather than spend a bunch of money on parts I may or may not be able to put on another rifle. Still have the PTR though, still shoot it regularly.

>>33278243
The Geissele Super Precision mount is bomb-proof. If I was going QD, I would go with the ADM. I don't really plan on removing it all that often though.

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>>33238836
poorfag detected

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>>33278288
SLR makes a lot of DPMS low handguards
The major issue I have with MP10 is their own spec headspacing. While I say that, I went LMT

>>33278298
Im probably going ADM, pic related inspired me

>>33240905
You know some people live in places away from cities and forest right?
Sometimes a 50grain projectile being aimed at 800m isn't going to banana the split
because I can see for literal miles in the Great Plains and I want to make sure I can hit them before they can hit me

Should I grab a Century C308 with a bit of my tax return? It'd be my first battle rifle, and I could afford to grab a bunch of ammo for it.

Looking to spend less than 1k, and I don't have any 308 currently. I don't really mind waiting to buy ammo for a little bit, but it'd be nice to have the option to go shoot sooner.

>>33276758
>will not ship to washington because "muh machine guns"

>>33276496
This one doesn't say anything about it so i guess i will email the dude.

>>33278853
Its been said a thousand times but i will say it again. Spend the few hundred more and get the PTR. plenty of stories of c308s being defective directly from the factory.

>>33278853
Build an AR10

>>33252607
So more like shooting ak?

>>33280605
SCAR is AK for rich people, confirmed

>>33238790
underrated

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>>33251289
It's really fucking light recoiling. I was pretty amazed except for how it malfunctioned after the first shot. This little meet was great.

>>33282744
except it doesnt shoot a pansy round

>>33283350
What does that say about ar rounds?

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>>33283376
Depends which AR your shooting

So Classic is selling BM59s for $1200.
>with one (1) magazine
>no aftermarket mags available
What's the fucking point of a 20 round boxmag if you can't meaningfully change mags without reloading them from scratch? Even stripper clips are faster at that point.

>>33283416
http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/bm59-308-20-round-magazine.aspx

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>>33278142
Enfield L1A1 SLR

>>33283586
Whats up with the rear sight?

>>33244451
I own an M1A. It'd cost me as much as the rifle itself for a good mount and optic.

>>33283659
It would, yes. And?

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>>33283654
It's just folded down "in transport position"

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>>33283023
Also, Strike Eagle confirmed SCAR worthy optic.

>>33284312
If you want to test out that warranty sure. Anything shy of vortex razor doesn't hold up to the 17s recoil very long.

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>>33284399
The guy whose SCAR it was seemed happy with it. I'm actually kind of curious where the "SCAR eats optics" meme comes from because with it recoiling as lightly as it does, it surprises me that anything would break because from the recoil.

>>33284431
Felt recoil isnt the thing. Its the micro pulses. For VERY short periods of time there is a lot of recoil force. Very high G. You dont feel it, the electronics and lenses do.

Ive seen a couple of Viper 1-4s spin reticles with them. Not to say that all of them will, just that they are not very rugged scopes.

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>>33284478
You're probably right, I just haven't actually seen anything about that besides here. I'd be much more worried about an optic on a G3 or an FAL but those seem to handle everything just fine despite having noticeably more felt recoil and I assume greater recoil impulse considering all the dampening stuff in the SCAR that makes it as nice as it is.

>>33238820
This whole board is proof you're wrong

>>33254926
>What's a good sling for an M1A? I'd rather sling the gal while I'm heading down to the range than carry her with one hand and the rest of my shit in the other.

Go for surplus GI slings M14, M1, and M16 slings work.

>>33284534
The recoil impulse on a G3 is fairly steady though strong, the FAL kills really cheap optics but vortex should be fine.

What do you guys think will happen to all the M14s, EBR and otherwise when the military replaces them with dedicated ARs.
Will they be melted down or given as military aid?
Honestly I wish they'd weld the selectors and give them to the CMP.

>>33285196
They mostly all have.
They get sent off to police departments

>>33240778
Get one of them. Burgers are just jealous they cant get one in their hyper-restrictive country.

>>33285266
>Wanting sheet metal guns

>>33285331
>not wanting guns

>>33285611
Dont you have discriminating tastes?

>>33285331
What's wrong with sheet metal?

>>33239153
Hi wirty

>>33262817
>>33266081
It is not Alumahyde, it is KG Gunkote. Anodized Blue color.

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>>33278238
I mean, as long as I get to watch then I guess it is ok.

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I've done a bunch of research and I think I want to get a FAL pattern rifle. I understand it's a little more pricy than a G3 pattern rifle but is, in general, a more accurate and easier to shoot battle rifle. I went to the gun show today but no one was selling them. I've looked on Gunbroker and they seem to start at around $1000.

If I searched around what's the least you think I could pay for a shooter ready FAL pattern rifle? I'd be interested in a parts kit if it can knock the price down but I don't really want to get into full-on restoration.

>>33286542
DSA sells them for ~$1200 new.

>>33286542
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/308-50-cal-rifles/dsa-arms.html

There you go

>>33276356
I saw one at a gun show in Mississippi like a month ago for 3k even.

would buckshot that is in great shape and has been stored well but is 20-30 years old still fire correctly and be good for hunting or self defense?

>>33287357
Wrong thread, but yes

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>wany to join the battle rifle master race
>.308 stopping power causes lasting bruising of my delicate flesh after ~30 shots

>>33287391
thanks bud
sorry about that

one more thing though, what would cause shells to get weak? water im guessing?

>>33287392
Go the range in 29 shot intervals then

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>>33287421
That's some pretty weak practice, man.

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>>33287392
Well son
I have a recommendation for you
And don't forget the spool of commo wire like these n00bz

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>>33287496
I'm all fleshy and stuff. I don't know how to stop being made primarily of water.

>>33287455
Well you're pretty weak so that's what you get.

>>33287523
Freeze yourself

>>33287523
caffiene and pushups and squats

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>>33287541

>>33287545
Wouldn't that just cause me to shatter instead of bruise? Doesn't sound much better.

>>33287572
I'm allergic to caffeine and I do 150 squats every other day. Pushups are hard.

>>33287603
Nothing worth having ever is

>>33287603
>Pushups are hard.
git gud

>>33287603
Ah yes I see the problem.

You're a woman. I'm sorry it's terminal.

>>33287603
>I do 150 squats every other day
butt pics pls

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>>33287628
Thanks, you too.

>>33287677
What like weight training? Fuck that noise.

>>33287798
>>33287828
I'm a boy.

>>33288042
Its clear you are a boy

>>33288042
Do you have a vagina (male)? If so, you're in the wrong thread.

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>>33288068
Oh, I see.

>>33288081
>vagina (male)
I... Are you asking if I have a butt? The memes are getting tough to follow these days.

>>33288150
Remedial PT will take of that

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>>33288042
>I'm a boy.
as if we care

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>>33288042
>What like weight training?
No, like manning the fuck up and doing more pushups anyway, you wimp.

>>33288221
Do you have more of it, please? :3

>>33287392
>>33287603
>>33288042

You sounds like an interesting kind of rangebuddy. I have a weakness for pretty boys with big BR :3

In managing of the recoil is the most important proper grip and body position towards the stock.

Try, as much lean your shoulder against the stock. Do not be afraid of recoil, a lot of people are trying to relieve their grip and leave a slight gap between stock and their shoulder.It is this behavior will allow the stock to "accelerate" and punch your shoulder harder. If the stock is in firm contact with your body, the recoil will be continuously transferred to move your whole torso without a short kick that causes bruising.
If you have a smaller figure, you have pay attention to your center of gravity, more lean forward against rifle, with a large part of your weight carried on the front leg.

>>33286604
>>33286554

I thought DSAs a shit?

>>33290118
Your on /k/
Every slight issue becomes a meme, no matter if the company stands behind their products or not.

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>>33287392
Just remember this handy phrase.

You wanna hug your raifu as tight as you hug your waifu.

>>33238785

I have a love/hate for pictures like this. This dude probably took his SCAR out into the woods with a spray bottle, and gave it an artistic misting, snapped a few pictures with a camera that cost as much as the rifle, then went back home and posted it on the internet for tumblr notes. That shit is so gay it cracks me up.

>>33290770
Projecting much?

>>33290803
fuck off OP

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>>33291797
>Saving the thread from page 10 death
>Saves the thread by being salty
Your why these threads are always nasty

>>33240036
I have a force recon buddy who swears up and down by those rifles. They're damn near indestructible from what he says

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>>33260687
I was looking at buying one and mounting an optic and bipod on it for something I could shoot accurately with out to 600m-900m. Something I could lug around and operate with. Should I just go the AR-10 route?

>>33292508
That Or SCAR

>>33292508
To be fair, you can... but it might need some accurizing once you hit into the further part of the listed range you gave; one of the difficult parts is getting a proper optic on it, since the mounts often use the stripper guide's spot and to rip that off you're going to need a pin kit to nail it out. It's also a pretty steep buy to begin with, so adding in any cost on that can be a whollup.
If you want a bipod, be mindful to get one with a stock that'll have a bottom mount on the stock for it. There might also be pre-builds that have the mount pre-installed, but I wouldn't know offhand, nor know their costs (I got the base walnut).
In short: You can, but it'll cost quite a bit for the gun itself, and then a bit more cost and/or effort to get a good mount on it that'll hold zero for optic, plus potential bedding for action.

An AR-10 might suit you more, or as >>33292559 said a SCAR is available.

TL:DR- Can totally operate with, but may need additional money/manpower to get it where you want it. To avoid hassle, you can always look at other options. Up to what you're lookin' for.

>>33292869
My dad was a DI and scout sniper in the marines and it's his favorite rifle for long range. Not too worried about accurizing since I have him just didn't know if say the AR-10 or SCAR would be better for operating because my dad's fat as fuck now and only uses his as a bench rifle

>>33293071
That, I can't say. It's my first rifle (and due to Massachusetts law, will end up being my only battle rifle) and I have no experience with the others to be able to give a proper side-by-side comparison.

No matter what you decide on, hope it fills all your checkmarks.

>>33238785
sakuya, if you came to the PNW nugget fest, would you be game to use your FAL as a pipe?

>>33290758
who is this jizz whiz

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>CC a 10mm because muh armor/glass/vibranium/force field penetration and one shot stopping power
>my main rifle is 5.45x39mm
I feel like I'm doing something wrong here.
For purely© academic™ purposes® are they any battle rifles that are controllable enough on full retard so as to be fired from one moving car to another at roughly 50 meters with the consistency to reliably rid the occupants of the latter car of their lives?

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Anyone know where I can find a rhodie FAL parts kit?

>>33293872
I'd imagine 5.45 wouldnt have the best performance but sheet metal/fiberglass. Milsurp 5.56 usually wont even go through both sides of a passenger compartment... perhaps you should focus on metered effective fire?

>>33293872
>are they any battle rifles that are controllable enough on full retard
Sort of, they're called assault rifles. Intermediate cartridges exist for a reason.
Tell us more about your Miami highway shootouts.

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>>33293872
>not CCing a full auto FAL pistol
I thought you wanted penetration and stoppin powah!

There's a guy on armslist with an "original JLD Enterprises PTR 91".
He says it was made with HK parts on HK tooling.
Does anyone know how good these are?
Thanks in advance

http://www.armslist.com/posts/6561910/birmingham-alabama-rifles-for-sale--jld-enterprises-ptr-91---g3-clone

>>33293906
No definitely not. It's more of a quanity versus quality thing. Or quanity versus windows and learher seats really.

>>33294033
I thought this was /brg/, my mistake.
Also it's not the 80s anymore, Miami is full of old people and prostitutes now.

>>33294136
My Tanfoglio is actually slightly smaller than the CZ 9mm I carried before it. If I was a big enough guy for you I might, but Andre the Giant is dead.

>>33295035
>Tanfolio
Trying to see how fast you can get a cracked frame?

>>33295008
With that stock, that seems like a pretty reasonable deal. I would try to talk him down a $100 or so. The quality will be pretty good.

>>33295070
I'm trading him a pistol for it anyway. How does it compare to the regular ptr 91 and HK 91?

>>33295053
Close to 5k rounds right now. I got the steel frame.
Some of those are FBI vagina rounds but still.

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>>33295213
Only metal framed 10mm that can handle a steady diet of real loads is the superstar.

Otherwise, go Glock

>>33295153
Lower quality than HK91 but basically on par with regular PTRs. The stock would be the only reason I'd value it over $1000 for it if everything else looks good. What pistol are you trading?

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>>33295226
Well it's too late now so I may as well keep going and see what happens.
Glocks don't work for me as I've been using a manual safety since I was 8. It's beyond muscle memory now, it's instinctive.

>>33295438
Not sure how thats an issue. Trying to "fan" a safety isnt really an issue using a glock. Either way its a software issue

>>33295465
It's like when you reach for something you can't see but it's not precisely where you remember it so you try again until you find it. Precious milliseconds lost wondering why I'm not getting the desired feeling from my thumb. Not bashing Glock at all, just doesn't work for me. Though I do tend to avoid polymer in general when I can just because heavier frames help with kick. Another personal preference of course.
Since I can't afford a Bren Ten in ten I guess I don't really have any other option.

>>33295593
Putting a surefire on a plastic gun helps with recoil a lot. Training paves over the 'instinct', but I get it. Great thing is that there are options.