MIDDLE EAST WARS: Not over yet edition

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BIZARRE: Right now, the TFSA, SAA, and ISIS (???) are all simultaneously claiming control of Tadif next to Al-Bab.

Sometimes I hope this war never ends.

http://syria.liveuamap.com/

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HEROISM: Brave Shi'ite militiamen courageously turn puppy into suicide bomber in order to save many lives. Praise Ali!

(these are the guys Obama loves and supported for 8 years)

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/video-isis-fits-puppy-bomber-suicide-bomb-belt/
ignore headline, website is incorrect (check flag in vid) and caters to retard Trump supporters

What happens with hayat tahrir al sham ?

>>33128196
Not much? Sitting around getting bombed by Russia & USA?

Who cares, shit is completely popping off around Al-Bab. Turks have apparently decided today is the day to go full retard.

Full scale battle developing between Turk-FSA and SAA in Tadef. SAA now calling in rocket artillery barrages at time of writing.

Turks are now heavily shelling Kurdish forces both to the west (Near Azaz) and to the east (near Manbij).

It appears their master plan is to fight literally everybody, all at once, US included. WTF.

i was gone for 5-6 days
oh wow

>>33128382
These are all recent developments, last 6-7 hours. Al-Bab only fell yesterday.

Looks like there won't be peace after ISIS is gone after all. At this rate I fully expect a three-way conflict between the SAA, TFSA, and SDF with occasional cameos from the ISIS rump state.

Who knows, maybe this proxy war clusterfuck will end with the US and Russia teaming up against a NATO ally?

>Turkish artillery firing on west of Manbij now

AHAHAH JUST AFTER THE VISIT OF "General Joseph Votel, head of the U.S. Central Command", WTF IS GOING ON GUYS???

>>33128627
Turk/Terrorist invasion. I don't know what else to call it.

2 SAA tanks destroyed and dozens killed in/around Tadif. Looks like the Turks really mean business, I don't know how one would walk back from an offensive like this.

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The situation in the area of Palmyra on 26 February 2017.
At night the Devils tried to counterattack from the South, from the East and North. At the time worked reaktivschiki. Nightmare staged noble spirits. Two devils opoloumeli and wandered in the neighborhood, until captured. Happy Sadyki the South have passed all five high-rise buildings and stopped in front of 939 high, the taking of which determined the outcome of the Battle of Palmyra in favor of SAA in the past year. In the East, the Syrians have come close to the height of 612, but it is not storming. At night the devils have a chance to fall down softly with her because during the day they are trapped, as the reverse side at the height of the cliff, and a ramp is located by the attackers. To be honest, I did not expect such a hurried from Sadykov. The main thing that they have left the position of night and day developed today uspeh.Horosho worked fliers and art. Largely thanks to them Sadyki so quickly overcome quite a long distance.
After taking 612 height will be restored last year protivostoyaniya.A status if in the coming days will be able to take the 939 height, you can declare the imminent completion of the re-release of Palmyra.

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>>33128723

>>33128723
and a ryssä to you too fine sir

"Abandoned armored batallion". Does that mean a bunch of wrecks, or tanks without gas, or did the drivers just decided it was a nice day for a hike?

>>33128798
is ISIS likely to have significant defenses in Palyra this time? Or is the plan simply to disappear and wait until the Russians get bored and leave again

Turk roaches demolish human habitations to make room for permanent military base in Al-Bab

http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2017/26-february-turkish-army-is-destroying-buildings-on-aqil

>>33128853
ISIS will probably do the same thing they did last time: continue to fight until SAA/Russians reach the outskirts of the city, then the majority of ISIS fighters will pull out, leaving behind a token force to harass the SAA and plant a shitton of IEDs.

>>33129298
>then the majority of ISIS fighters will pull out, leaving behind a token force to harass the SAA and plant a shitton of IEDs.
ok... then what? Surely the Russians/SAA won't neglect the city so much this time. If ISIS retreats then how do they ever get back in?

>>33129338
If I had to assess, ISIS will retask the newly freed up forces to either defense of Raqqa or throw them into DeZ meatgrinder ( Raqqa would be my guess).

As for ISIS recapturing Palmyra, dought they will get a chance anytime soon. Every major nation is against them; Mosul is falling (even though it will be a drawn out slugfest); al Raqqa is getting surrounded; they just lost al Bab. As things stand, they are being rolled back. ISIS best option right now is to reconsolidate their forces and make the next Turkish/Russian/SAA/SDF push as bloody as possible and hope that everyone else loses their appetite for war .

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>>33129594
>tfw ISIS will never become the now caliphate sparking an easily justifiable and broadly supported 10th crusade against an identifiable and uniformed enemy.
Well at least the perpetual meat grinder makes a great testing bed for new hardware that will never truly see the war it was developed to win

>>33128704
Looks like the FSA is slightly less dogshit than the SAA.

Hope the Ruskies don't come in, it would make their warming relations with Turkey awkward.

>>33130090
I hope they will. Fuck the roaches.

>>33129594
Yes and no... I don't see ISIS taking the "Hitler in the Bunker" approach now. They are fighting hard, but are still retreating and holding back in some places and it gives one the impression that they are planning another surprise offensive somewhere unexpected. Especially if the Turkish fuckery proves to be a real distraction. Plus they got ~1,000 additional fighters this week from Jund Al-Aqsa pledging allegiance.

Raqqa will be a very long fight no matter what happens. If they finally take Deir (dunno how unlikely that is) they will actually be able to have a quite secure rump state along the Syrian/Iraqi border to rule over while the other factions fight amongst themselves.

>>33130090
>Looks like the FSA is slightly less dogshit than the SAA.
The "new" FSA is fully backed by Turkish armor, vehicles, artillery, planes, missiles, equipment, etc. etc. It doesn't seem like the Turkish army proper has joined the fight in Tadif other than maybe with artillery support.

Meanwhile the SAA is going nuts artying the fuck out of the stretch between Al-Bab and Tadif. Allegedly they called for RuAF air support but it's unknown if any Turk/Russian airstrikes have actually happened yet.

It will be interesting to see how the Russians and Turks react. I expect they will try to rein in their proxies but I could see this easily getting out of hand very quickly. Too much hatred and enmity between groups here, and Turkey and Russia are far too committed to their respective proxies now.

>>33129594
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/02/20/iraq-started-operation-to-liberate-western-mosul-from-isis/

How long do you think the Mosul clusterfuck will drag on for? I'm gonna call it and say the end of this year.

>>33129885
A truly complete crusade would mean getting rid of the merchants too.

>>33130453
I'd say "liberated" by July/August.

And then the insurgency will begin, again...

A CBS news story about US training of kurds to take raqqa:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/at-base-in-syria-us-forces-helping-syrians-prepare-to-liberate-raqqa/

Also, it struck my while watching this, this war has been going on for 6 years or so and I cannot remember the last time I saw a major US media outlet actually have a reporter on the ground in syria.

>>33130442
Your right that they wont just break and surrender en mass. But ISIS came from AQI, who were masters of insurgency. As they keep on losing territory, I see them shifting tactics from standing battle lines to large, coordinated surprise attacks in areas considered "ISIS free".

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is this the biggest clusterfuck war of the 21st century? seems like every week another faction has popped up and taken some barren desert area

>>33128131
Nice spin.

If you actually spoke Arabic you'd realize these men are actually disarming the explosives on the dog.

>>33130688
So basically turn the clock back to 2006/07 only no Americans in large numbers.

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>"The White Helmets" wins best Documentary (Short Subject) Oscars

>>33133109
Tell me the truth, /k/. Are they really humanitarians, or are they actually a bunch of CIA-trained militants acting as a cover for CIA shenanigans?

>>33133702
They were boys with nusra, many pictures of them with weapons & involved in executions. They're al queadas fire brigeade

>>33128261
Turks didn't seem to notice how shit their forces are

>>33128853
They have significant forces, but I expect them to abandon soon.

Raqqa and their hometowns are about to get KURD'd

>>33130090
The TFSA is not the FSA.

>>33130774
>Also, it struck my while watching this, this war has been going on for 6 years or so and I cannot remember the last time I saw a major US media outlet actually have a reporter on the ground in syria.

US media got collective amnesia after Trump won/Aleppo fell.

Now they barely mention the hospitals or bakeries

>>33133702
Jihadi firemen

They are propaganda, but I'm not necessarily against saving civilians. I don't think Russia/SAA actually want to kill (too many) civilians either.

>>33133702
Its all just propaganda

>>33131145
it makes more sense if you think of it is a gang war rather than a national war

>>33134589
Your FSA does not exist anymore.

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https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1ee_1487941582

>>33128843
It's the ME, who the fuck knows

how the hell are the US gonna handle manbij? Have they no choice but to let the turks have it?

>>33128131
They're Iraqis disarming a bomb that was placed on a puppy

Ok guys, can somebody give me the run down, last real time i was keeping track was august of last year: Whats happening? Who's supporting who, whats next... thanks

>>33135521
I too need to know this. Im out of the loop since i went back to college.
>>33135399
Nobodys shooting dogs in Iraq.

>>33135545
Assad and the turks going in a shooting war

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvW_nXZKpcA

>>33128443
>Looks like there won't be peace after ISIS is gone after all. At this rate I fully expect a three-way conflict between the SAA, TFSA, and SDF with occasional cameos from the ISIS rump state.
It's Lebanon all over again. How long until Israel sticks their dick in it for no fucking reason?
>maybe this proxy war clusterfuck will end with the US and Russia teaming up against a NATO ally?
Kek
Probably not, but one can dream.

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>>>>/pol/ geolocates a training camp and tries to get it bombed by the russians like last year
>>>/k/ discusses everything not weapon related

>>33127921
http://imgur.com/a/UKdqe
Thoughts?

>>33127921
Give someone who's been aware of the happenings but badly informed a quick rundown in the current Syria.

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>>33135880

>>33135828
you guys pinpointed the location?

>>33135901
I laughed, but the clusterfuck isn't that bad is it?

>>33135905
Please don't enable him.

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>>33135936
>the clusterfuck isn't that bad is it?
It's not bad, it's glorious

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>Palmyra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6QgTmrvIzo

>>33135834
>inb4 IS suddenly recieves a whole new influx of recruits thanks to this piece

>>33135834
Fucking kek

>>33135834
really made me do a think

>>33128627
googled general joseph votel, found this:

>Turkish President Erdogan Snaps at U.S. General Over Coup Remarks

>General had commented on impact of purge in Turkish military on ISIS fight

Not just 4chan is laughing at turks incompetence.

On a more serious note, the turks have been trying to leverage the US into supporting them instead of kurds for quite a while now, and the US has been balancing between all sides, although just think about it, who is going to be more important strategic partner in the region: the whole Turkey, or a small state with unclear future? They might let Turkey have a bit of fun this time (expecting them to make a mess of themselves).

>>33133702

They're just Jihadis doing this part time, they stage a lot of their "miraculous" life saving work. A lot of times they've refused to help ethnic minorities and Shia trapped under rubble

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LzFD5M14Go

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>>33135905
>>33136007
>>>/pol/114251554
Come again?

Pic related is the one from last year.

>>33137287
bootlicking faggots

>>33136470
The US will betray the Kurds once more like they've done in the past. Turkey's location is too important to NATO and US interests.

>>33137608
>we got ISIS faggots bombed
>no you didn't
>here's proof
>f-fucking bootlicker
Go cry in a corner, Ahmed.

>>33137672
>we got ISIS faggots bombed

by licking boots

>>33137608

case closed.

>>33137672
Where they even ISIS or is it just the everyone is ISIS meme?

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>>33137913
Look at all the FSA flags, definitely ISIS.

>>33138246
Not sure if ironic or honest retardation. It is hard to tell after so many threads.

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>Joulani

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5bEDxNmivo

US army commanders requests for more "sophisticated equipment" for the SDF have been met as reports are coming in of SDF receiving more MRAP's and other unknown equipment in Kurdish controlled northern Syria.

In the meantime, some reports coming in of US soldiers patrolling along the demarcation line between the SDF and the TFSA in order to mitigate the chance of clashes.

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>>33137844
wait a minute, do I smell...

>>33138597
Some obvious derailing namecalling? Yeah

>>33138560
What would happen TFSA accidentally kill an american soldier

>>33138899
While that's highly unlikely (in that Turkey is taking all the necessary measures to prevent that from happening).

If it were to happen, i'd imagine Trump breathing down Turkey's neck and possibly making a huge scene. That's something Turkey doesn't want at the moment considering that relations with Iran have soured and if Turkey were to completely loose the US, they'd find themselves facing the Iranians alone (Russia isn't going to give up the Iranians no matter how beneficial their friendship with Turkey is).

That's the extreme case (improbable, but still in the cards)

The more moderate response I see is possibly the US pressuring Turkey into pulling back and creating a DMZ with Turkish/American troops patrolling the middle.

That would be less viable for Turkey as Erdogan really wants Manjib and Raqqa (at least that's the position of his government). But as Turkey is creating a quasi-protectorate in northern Syria, im sure they'd be ok with consolidating their positions/legitimacy (Turkey is creating a "national" army and police force for the rebels) even if it means pulling back a few hundred meters.

>>33138997
Problem is that Turkey (most likely) doesn't have absolute control over rebels. Those guys can just spot a group of soldiers and start shooting in it's direction
We already saw how disciplined they are

>>33127921
Anyone else in the process of learning Arabic? Wanna be gay internet learning buddies?

>>33139195
maybe. Got a midterm on thursday and im so behind. Pronominal suffixes and verb modification fucked me over.

>>33139229
also im studying classical arabic since its the only thing offered in my Uni. Its different from modern Arabic, so it might be difficult studying together

>>33139257
Where you studying? I too am in my first year 2nd semester of university Arabic.

>>33139395
University of British Columbia (UBC), you?

>>33139443
WLU, Laurier. Add me on Steam if you'd like, aman168

>>33139513
will do when im back home.

Now could some of the namefags whip up a quick pastebin with some somewhat neutral resources for the constant stream of people aksing for a quick run down in every thread?

>>33138899
won't happen because US forces will GTFO the area when the TFSA assaults the SDF Kurds. literally zero reason not to do so. the Americans are probably all near Raqqa now anyway.

>>33138997
retarded nonsense answer.
>in that Turkey is taking all the necessary measures to prevent that from happening
lmao no. fuck off erdogan.

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>>33139998
>haha lol spoonfeed me a totally unbiased complete summary of a 6 year long civil war with hundreds of sub-factions xD
Eat shit. Look at livemap until you can figure it out, stupid manbaby.

>>33140655
If you look at the incident which Turks escorted American SOF out of a few rebel held towns, it shows that they really don't want any American casualties as it would diminish cooperation between TFSA and SDF.

Not to mention with US officials have stated that they support the SDF's claim to manbij, something which pissed off the Turks.

Turks won't directly attack US forces and/or won't allow any attacks to take place. They got what they wanted in creating an autonomous zone in northern Syria that is if not accepted, allowed to exist by the Russians and Syrians. Erdogan won't throw away it's new protectorate by allowing more radical elements to target American forces (key word is American) and risk a potential flashpoint.

>>33131145
>Not even a quarter finished
>Biggest clusterfuck war of the century
I'm sure we'll see worse

>>33140939
What's the point of making a protectorate in North Syria anyways? Is it just ego stroking over OTTOMAN STRONK?

>>33141146
to ensure that the Kurds never have the Afrin pocket join with the Kurds in Manbij. Partially it is about Ottoman stronk, but also because it allows the Turks to increase their power in the region.

Just in, thousands of kurds have arrived from Iraq in order to help SDF in its Deir Ezzor offensive. A convoy that was said to be 10km long arrived in the Hasakha governate.

While the news has been disseminated via multiple sources, Kurdish government officials in Erbil denied the events.

Yet despite that, the Al-Malkiyah border crossing saw large amounts of Kurdish armored vehicles and tanks crossing into Syria.

It is rumored that these troops will take part in the offensive to relieve Deir Ezzor, as Kurdish forces have made steady advances in the province and are aiming at relieving the city from its three year long siege.

If successful (going on a limb so take with gran of salt), we could possibly see Kurdish reinforcements moving west towards Raqqa. SDF desperately needs the manpower if it is going to even think about taking Raqqa let along attempt to besiege the city.

>>33127921
Will Trump support an independent Kurdistan?

>>33139998
TL;DR The SAA are fascists, IS are the caramel Khmer Rouge, most of the rebels are Al Qaeda, and the Kurds are kind of neat.

>>33142577
It's starting to seem like the Turks would've been better off never having the Kurds in their territory in the first place.

>>33127921
hey, I made that image :^)

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>>33141146
>What's the point of making a protectorate in North Syria anyways?
you mean southern turkey, right?

>>33143539
*not my thoughts, paraphrasing a gov official's stance*

most Turkish kurds are ok with being part of Turkey as long as they get something similar to what the Iraqi kurds have.

PKK are the more extreme sector of the Kurds that want complete autonomy and want to fight the Turks till the end.

Turks have similar factions in that the majority would like the Kurds to be part of Turkey but wouldn't mind if they got more autonomy. Most Turks just dislike the PKK, but because of Erdogan, have begun to distrust the HDP and other Turkish groups that try to be part of the system.

While there are smaller factions in the Turkish government that don't want to budge an inch and fight the PKK till the death.

At least that's what I got when I got to talk to the head of the Turkish consulate in my city during a conference.

TLDR; it's the extremists from both sides that are aggravating the situation. PKK however gets the short end of the stick because it is not in government.

>>33142593
In the places most likely for it to emerge, probably not.

>>33143864
I see. Sounds like not much short of a war ravaging Anatolia will do much about that

>>33145097
Damn that's one sturdy SVBIED

>>33143569
and you made it just for me :')
>don't forget, you're here forever

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>witness meeeeeeee

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>>33146908

>>33140939
>cooperation between TFSA and SDF

SDF just announced a condemning statement towards the TFSA and promised a truce with the SAA/Russians.

>>33140689
fuck off, i'm up to date. Lots of generals have pastebin links in the op. It would be practical to have something to refer new posters to.

>Erdoğan: Manbij is Turkey's next step in Syria operation

ahah

>>33131145
Pretty much Rust.

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>>33147454
New posters should educate themself with the general overview of the war and can then ask specific questions about factions, battles, tactical importance of certain places, weapons used, the grand strategy involved or whatever they like.
But "pls explain the whole war to me" or "i'm too much of a faggot to think for myself so pls tell me who to root for" is not wished for here.

If you dont have the interest, will or mental capability to get at least a fundamental understand of the general situation, then this thread shouldnt be for you. If you just want to shitpost, there is a great thread over at /pol/

>>33131145
>he isnt preparing himself for the complete and utter clusterfuck that will be the Third Congo War

>>33147637
Y no ruski?

>>33147723
Its from 2014 or so when the Russians had not been involved.

>>33147637
How strong is the SDF compared to the FSS and is it actually likely they see conflict? It seems kind of far fetched now, but turkey has been rather aggresive.

>>33147729
I say this only because I'm kind of new to this and I'm unaware of the FSS and SDF relationship.

>>33131145
I gave up even trying to follow events
seems like a very convoluted proxy war

>>33147744
It seems like at this point it's the 'sefular' SDF Kurds fighting for northern rojavo, the FSA which has been turned jihad fighting the SAA for control of syria. Isis seems more or less down for the count.
USA is backing fsa and SDF, though supports SDF more. Turks support radical aspects of fsa, being the AL shams, and Russians support assad.

>>33147729
What do you mean with FSS? FSA (and when yes, in what context because people use it as term for all rebels, for ""moderate"" rebels or for the turkish-supported rebels)

>>33147750
>Isis seems more or less down for the count.
They still hold their two major cities and both (despite kurds being north of raqqa) are not that much threatened. They have pretty much the whole euphrates valley under control, are active as ever in central syria. And government focus will shift probably towards Damascus, while kurdish focus may shift towards the turkish threat. Lastly, with Mosul falling, a lot of manpower and ressources will shift towards Syria.

Yes, they are heading towards defeat, but no they surely are not down already. I mean, that has been said since the day the US and the rest of the world began their bombing campaign some 2,5 years ago.

>>33147764
>>33147764
Turkey supported FSA. I suppose I should read up on the individual groups included in the FSA.

>>33147781
Yes its very likely that they will both see conflict, the TFSA are after all a turkish tool against the kurdish expansion.

Right now the SDF is clearly stronger; they also will be fighting a defensive war from increasingly entrenched positions, giving them a further edge over the TFSA.

People usually say that the FSA without turkish support is utter shit, but often forget just how much the SDF/Kurds rely on US airpower and special forces handholding. And while turkish support will obviously remain in possible anti-kurdish clashes, US support may be absent.
Despite this, militarily the SDF is still the favoured party.

Lastly, both possess a clear popular support, not least because both zones of control are protected from airstrikes.
For the SDF there is the kurdish-arab contrast as a possible future threat, while for the TFSA there is the islamist factor that the Turks cant or wont stop (though of course its still far more moderate then the other rebel held areas).

>>33147860
From what I've seen and heard, the SDF cultural tension seems to be light. That, of course, could be propaganda, but is there any concrete reason to think it's a huge issue?

>>33147869
Also I feel like the US would be extremely hesitant to move to air strikes against a threat that isn't ISIS. Granted many of these TSFA rebels seems to be jihasists, but I'm still not sure they be eager to help.

>>33147869
No its not a huge issue. But it can be, because the SDF will move from now on into complete non-kurdish areas.

You also have to remember that eastern/northern aleppo countryside was extremely pro-rebel, so some people may resent the kurdish cooperation with Assad and prefer to go under TFSA/turkish protection if that also means, that they have some local level of governance, protection against airstrikes and not being ruled by islamists.

In the end, you should keep in mind that there is on this board and in western reporting in general a clear bias against the Turks and for the Kurds (with very good reasons of course, but still usefull to remember).

>>33147900
So the SDF relatively pro assad stance could be their silver lining and downfall? They seem to have cooperated at least on occasion. I'd imagine with TSFA making moves against Assad that we will only see more of that.

>>33147916
Also hasn't turkey already tried to cause dissent and failed? It's obvious they know it's a weakness is the SDF. I'm surprised they've been able to manage the diversity honestly.

>>33147900
And thanks for all the answers. I know I'm asking a lot here, but this is a pretty deep rabbit hole.

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IT BEGINS

Breaking. Seems offensive started on #Manbij territory. #EuphratesShield forces seized over Kreidiyeh from #SDF
https://mobile.twitter.com/QalaatAlMudiq/status/836559248532336641

>>33147916
Again, thats all just possible factors if there is fighting between the TFSA and Kurds. People maybe would prefer the FSA against the "traitorous" Kurds or maybe they like the decentralized vision more that the SDF are projecting.

I personally think there is a lot of resentment in the former Azaz Corridor, that may play a role in a turkish push against Tel Rifaat. Probably not so much in the east on the Manbij front.

>>33147935
No problem, that are good questions.

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Last from me, I'm going to work

>>33147970
That guy has been screaming about that for some days now. I would be cautious.
Most maps already placed Kreidiyeh/Kiriyah under TFSA control since ISIS left from there

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How hard is Turkey and affiliates going to push the SAA, and what are their objectives? Is it to deny the kurds the possibility to supply afrin through SAA territory, to lay the grounds for a future advance towards Raqqah, or both?
I look forward to Erdogan reviving the title of sultan.

Did some IS shill take over liveuamap?

All the gains by the saa near palmyra and iraqi army in mosul were reversed with no explanation

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https://twitter.com/CENTCOM/status/836574056468082688

Turkish assplosion in comments!

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Guys, half iraqi here. What's the chance of the Kurds getting their own country? Just so you know Kurds are competent inbred gypsies. Also how are the Assyrians doing? Thnx bye.

>>33148697
>turkroaches threatening US Centcom

lmao

>>33148773
>half iraqi here
why don't you fuck off back home and find out

>>33128131
Butthurt sunni nigger detected. Or butthurt American leftist. Either way into the helicopter with you faggot.

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>>33148790
I was born in the US and I plan on going back after I finish college and my service. I want to enter government but I'm not sure if I can, considering I don't have iraqi citizenship. Not to mention I'm half Assyrian so I'm not sure how well it would work for me. Fuck you, you're an asshole. Also the previous patriarch of the Syriac Orthodox Church was my cousin so fuck you, if being if you judge people based off the color of their skin or anything else not pertaining to the common human element.

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>>33148790
You are degenerate.

>>33148861
How can you take a side when you're huddled away in the US, just like the turkroaches in Germany, the Kurds in northern Europe and the niggers in the US. All got something to say about your native land yet all too scared to go back to the land you love so much to do something about it.

You're all the same, that's why I'm glad you're all shit skinned so i know who to avoid.

>>33148884
Says the shitskin shitposting on /k/ about his homeland he will never visit in his life.

>>33128131

Stupid Sunni nigger. You're getting fucking bombed, bro.

>>33133109

This is some pretty ominous shit going on here.

>>33148940
Ominous? It's nothing overly special or out of the ordinary, it's just Hollywood elites wanting to feel like they're educated and worldly so they support this as virtue signalling.

Not that the white helmets are bad, the smear campaign against them is silly. Don't see why they need to be shit on, there's plenty of other stuff to shit on in the conflict.

When will WW3 happen finally

>>33148861
>Also the previous patriarch of the Syriac Orthodox Church was my cousin so fuck you
Isn't it pretty ironic that you want to be judged by the social standing of some distant family member you've probably never met in the same sentence as arguing that people shouldn't be judged by "the color of their skin or anything else not pertaining to the common human element."
Kill yourself, I hate your type of mix-breed shitskin who sit and fantasize about their home country as if it was the best thing ever, not even considering the fact that it was just so good that your parents did everything they could to get out. This thread isn't for you retard.
>>>/pol/

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>>33148977
There aren't allowed to be any real 'good guys' in this conflict. Both sides are constantly reminding the other that they're working with murderers and maniacs.

>>33149025
Turkey is the only player in the region that might trigger a larger conflict, that's why the US and Russia are constantly hounding them to keep their shit contained. Iran is doing pretty well internationally, and they don't want to risk anything by overplaying their hand in Syria.

>>33148911
>>33148919
My parents left because my grandfather was a commie with an Armenian last name and was tortured for it and my family was persecuted. I had no choice in being born in the US. I'm 19 right now so even though I can go, it would be better for me to finish my studies and I still need to serve because I want to provide something in return to the US. I take a side (Iraq, not it's current government which is a major reason as to why I want to go) because I see what I could have been and I want it to be better. I know that at this point Iraq is just a name, but I want it to be more than that.
P.s. stop being a degenerate racist
>>33149029
I mentioned it on the assumption that you would judge me on another metric than my character, which turned out true. I know my parents left because it was shit. I know it was shit. Even if I go today I would probably be looked down upon, but I have hope in that it can change. I know that the chances of me having any impact are slim, but at least I try. Why are you such an asshole? Do you really judge people on their skin rather than their personality? If you ever saw a good and charitable man who was of Abby race you despise, would you hate him? Would you disregard him because of his skin even though he is a normal person? Would you really impede progress just because of his skin? That is degenerate. I left /pol/ for a reason and that is because of people like you, ones who do not think about their actions or words. would I hate you because of your skin, even though you are presumably a decent person. No I shouldn't, it would insult you beyond belief. That's why I don't judge you by your physical characteristics, I only let you prove yourself, and you most definitely have.

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>>33149115
Sorry forgot to tip my fedora.

>>33149115
That's a cute little speech and all, but if you go back and take a look at your first post in this thread it sort of falls apart you hypocritical prick. " Just so you know Kurds are competent inbred gypsies."
Not to mention the rest of that first post and your following post reeking of both underage and low iq. I have no reason to treat you with respect, lurk moar faggot.

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Croatia exported 88 million dollars of Socialist era arms and ammunition to Saudi Arabia just in the past NINE months, even though the Saudi army only uses American and EU made weapons incopatible with the ones we sold.

Rlly maks u think.

http://www.index.hr/Vijesti/clanak/birn-hrvatska-zaraduje-milijune-eura-na-ratu-u-siriji/951875.aspx

>>33149180
>Competent
Also if I said that Blacks were good rappers but always kill each other you wouldn't complain. But not the main point. Generalizations aren't racist, only judging individuals based off of them are. I have no problem with you saying that shitskins blow shit up and rape people, but if you apply that to me on an individual level, that is different. Also calling me a prick:
>try harder

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>>33148773
What does that say about Iraqis when you compare KRG to Iraq? There's a reason why you don't live there, shitskin friend.

>>33147454
then why don't you do it, you lazy ultranigger?

>>33149115
>>33149172
Nice blog faggot, why do you inbred Iraqi retards always think everyone needs to hear your life story?
Go beat off to System of a Down or something.

>>33149267
fuck off back to >>>/pol/ and stop shitting up a good thread with selfposting

>>33149459
Because you antagonized me and I felt like explaining why I thought of it as unfair and rude.
>>33149309
Also I was asking about the Kurds because I want Iraq to have a chance at being better and it just so happens that getting rid of half of Iraqs oil fields doesn't help. Also I'm a fan of pan-arabism which probably won't work but the least I can hope for is for Iraq not to be split apart along ethnic lines
>>33149478
Then stop antagonizing me. You're the one who keeps responding by my posts with "hurr durr inbred iraqis all the same even though I'm talking to one that is apparently not hnnggg"

>>33149505
>Because you antagonized me and I felt like explaining why I thought of it as unfair and rude.
not the guy you're arguing with you dumb fucking 14 year old, just want you to fuck off out of a discussion about military tactics

>>33149478
>>33149459
>>33149309
>>33149180
>>33149029
>>33148919
>>33148911
>>33148790
Why are (you) such an asshole? I was just asking about future prospects of Kurdistan and what's up in the Ninevah Plains. Just stop please I don't like people hating me because of my skin.
>>33149555
Again, I ask about two regions and you respond with "hurr durr shitskin I hate you wahhh" just stop. You never should have started antagonizing me for asking a fucking question. No I'm not 14, because only prepubescent shitstains think racism is "cool" and "edgy". I was asking 2 questions and you felt a need to tell me to fuck off because my mother is from Iraq. Also I mentioned that my mother was from Iraq because I thought someone would like an insight into the thoughts of the situation from someone from the region, but apparently this war is just so you can live out your fantasies of being in the military since your knees buckle every time your belly flaps when you roll off of your bedpan.

>>33149614
>these 9 people telling me to shut the fuck up clearly are all one person!!! rawr hear me roar!!
Why won't you leave?

>>33149621
Why won't you stop? All I've asked is for someone to answer my question.

>>33149635
Why are you still blog posting about your disgusting heritage?

>>33149645
I'm blog posting about being butthurt. Okay, let me ask again. Is anything happening in the Ninevah Plains and what's the chance of the Kurds getting their own country?

>>33148790
What was wrong with his question.

US forces appear to be taking up positions west of Manbij near the demarcation line between the SDF and TFSA north of where clashes are taking place.

Interesting. A show of force to be sure, but one gets the impression this wouldn't have happened under Obama. Too risky for him.

http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2017/27-february-image-purporting-to-show-us-forces-on-demarcation

How hard will you laugh if the SAA and SDF decide to team up and stomp the TFSA out of the country before the Turks have time to entrench themselves?

>>33149663
>Is anything happening in the Ninevah Plains and what's the chance of the Kurds getting their own country?
No. Check the livemaps or any number of news sources.
>what's the chance of the Kurds getting their own country?
37.5901%. Really, who knows?

>>33149675
My*?

>>33149678
Thanks

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http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2017/02/syria-fsa-vows-attack-government-forces-al-bab-170228103136317.html

The peace talks look like they're gonna fail if the TFSA ramps up attacks on the SAA.

can't say im surprised, but goddamn Middle Easterners never fail to impress me.

Is Al-Monitor a good source?

>>33150290
whatever. Depends on what turkey does. I doubt they'll support action against syrian gov forces so they'll probably withdraw support for any elements that want to go on a suicide mission that bad.

>>33135828
>Still using that one occasion to parade >>/pol/

Have they ever done more of that?

>>33149678
>How hard will you laugh if the SAA and SDF decide to team up and stomp the TFSA out of the country before the Turks have time to entrench themselves?

I'll break out a good bottle of Scotch if that ever happens.

>>33150290

Treachery and corruption are extreme among Arabs. Why do you think a White Man, Mohammad, invented Islam to govern those cousin-fucking brown savages?

>>33151056
>White man
>Created Islam

What the fuck am I reading.

>>33151056
If one trusts religious texts the Arabs were cheated out of their inheritance by Jews. Treachery runs in their blood from the fist of them.

>>33151348

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur'an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Muhammad's_White_Complexion

Many people commented on Mohammad's unusually light complexion. He was also a red head and probably had light eyes.

The ancient Whites are still a ruling class in most Middle Eastern countries, BTW.

Mohammad was pissed at the sodomy and fickleness of the Arabs he ruled, so he devised a system to rule them with an iron fist, and now the retarded fuckers worship him like a God, lel.

>>33151348
>Muhammad was middle-sized, did not have lank or crisp hair, was not fat, had a white circular face, wide black eyes, and long eye-lashes. When he walked, he walked as though he went down a declivity. He had the "seal of prophecy" between his shoulder blades ... He was bulky. His face shone like the moon. He was taller than middling stature but shorter than conspicuous tallness. He had thick, curly hair. The plaits of his hair were parted. His hair reached beyond the lobe of his ear. His complexion was azhar [bright, luminous]. Muhammad had a wide forehead, and fine, long, arched eyebrows which did not meet. Between his eyebrows there was a vein which distended when he was angry. The upper part of his nose was hooked; he was thick bearded, had smooth cheeks, a strong mouth, and his teeth were set apart. He had thin hair on his chest. His neck was like the neck of an ivory statue, with the purity of silver. Muhammad was proportionate, stout, firm-gripped, even of belly and chest, broad-chested and broad-shouldered.

Thats from his wiki page.

>>33147649
WAIT. GIVE ME A QUICK RUNDOWN SENPAI

>>33151634
>>33151680
Oh god, that's hilarious as fuck.

>>33151859
what is there to give a rundown on? The country's filled with rare earth militias, differen ethnic and religious groups that've been at each others throat for decades and the government is inherently unstable.

I'm all for it. While they're at it they should rename it back to Zaire, that sounded way better.

So has Turkey been funding/helping ISIS, Al Queda, and other terrorist cells over the years?

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>>33152032
>rare earth militias

>>33152092

>ISIS

No, but they closed eyes on the borders and the hospital charges of isis fighters until the first isis attack in turkey (against a kurd manifestation)

>Al Qaeda

Probably. Depending on what you call Al Qaeda, they gave some help to al-nosra affiliated groups (turkmen and arabs)

>other terrorist cells

Terrorism is an overused word, if you imply rebels then yes they funded a lot of rebels (Ahrar al Sham, members of the ex-islamic front etc...) but they just push their own agenda, just like how USA pushes his own by supporting kurds affiliated with PKK

>>33152092
Pretty sure Turks were complicit in IS oil operations

>>33128131

Sunni nigger detected

>>33152570
Everyone was complicit in IS oil operation.

>>33152812
this

SAA bought oil

FSA bought oil

Turks bought oil

Wouldn't be surprised if even the kurds bought oil from ISIL

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>>33154594
you forgot the best part anon:

>Israel bought oil
>http://www.globalresearch.ca/israel-is-the-main-purchaser-of-isis-oil/5493738

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>US special forces with SDF in Manbij

US SOF completed combat jump training with rebels along the Jordanian border.

What is the meaning of this? I can't imagine the US is going to resume activities on the southern front now that Jihadi Obama is gone. Maybe to fight the Khalid-bin-Whalid ISIS fags near the Golan?

>>33154717
nice source, dipshit. real unbiased and factual here.

>>33151680
There are a lot of very pale Saudis who look whiter than I do.
t. grew up as expat in Saudi

now fuck off forever back to >>>/pol/ you race obsessed faggot

>>33150977
I would join you in that.

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>>33151680

>tfw you realize Muhammad was actually a Hasidic Jew! :DDDDD

>>33135471
not much has changed outside of idlib, im sure you know aleppo fell if that hadnt already happened.

shits getting weird up north with the turks & eu guys, the sdf/ypg, the SAA & isis all with front lines touching. the turks got al bab but lost a lot of armor (like 7 leo 2's, some sabras & what ever those upgraded m113's they have are called)
the big shit kicker you missed was a 3 way jihadi civil war in idlib. people on nusra's side (which included some defections from ahrar) formed HTS (hayat tahrir al sham) and the other side backs ahrar al sham obviously.
the fun part is jund al qasa went full ham and started killing everyone before being kicked out and moving to isis territory.
whats hilarious is i got into a twitter argument with some guy claiming jund al qasa was no more. they were "absorbed" as a whole entity, they were still being refered to as "jund guys" in the second attempt to break the aleppo siege for fucks sake. i hope who ever that guy was is eating his shoe now.

other new stuff palmyra fell again, but the new SAA 5th corps is being tested there and are doing well. (the 11 & 18 division + qalamoun shield guys and some airforce intelligence are around there too) theyre about 1 mile from palmyra as of today.

>>33135936
kek fuck yeah its that bad, how long have you been following this crazy ass mad max war?

>>33142620
>the kurds a hard left nut cases who will eventually get into a shooting war with the krg and arent as spotless as people would like to think see the TAK, (along with that small group of kurds who fight for isis) & the krg taking assyrian clay in iraq

fixed that for you

>>33143926
a lot of kurds dont want an independent kurdistan, for a lot of reasons

>>33147860
seriously though they couldn't take al rai with turkish arty

>>33148323
isis was claimed to have routed the SAA near palmyra but it was false, maybe they were taking that as fact for some reason

>>33148697
kek yeah that shit got outta hand so fast

>>33148697
wow, that's amazing

>>33157836
>>33157840
>>33157977
Russians?

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Uran-9 UGCV spotted in Syria

>>33158709
do these russian drones have gun stabilisers yet?

>>33158709
It's T-62

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1 March - Provinces, SANA – The Syrian Army and Armed Forces continued making progress in the battle against terrorist organizations, establishing control over the Palmyra Triangle area in Homs province and targeting ISIS positions in Deir Ezzor.

>Homs

Army units operating in the eastern countryside of Homs province established full control over the Palmyra Triangle area on the western outskirts of Palmyra city after eliminating the last gatherings of ISIS terrorists in the area.

SANA’s reporter said that army units, in coordination with the supporting forces, engaged on Wednesday in fierce clashes with ISIS terrorists located in Palmyra Triangle area, leaving scores of the terrorist dead or injured, adding that army units are chasing down the remaining terrorists in the area who are suffering great demoralization.

The reporter said that army units are advancing in the direction of Palmyra Citadel, while engineering units are canvassing the Triangle area and dismantling IEDs and landmines left behind by terrorists to impede the army’s progress.

>Deir Ezzor

The Syrian Air Force launched on Wednesday intensive airstrikes on gatherings and supply lines for ISIS terrorists in Deir Ezzor city.

SANA’s correspondent in Deir Ezzor said that the airstrikes resulted in destroying fortifications and gatherings for the terrorist organization, leaving a number of terrorists dead or injured in the bricks factories area near of Liwa al-Tamin, al-Muhandeisen area in the vicinity of al-Tharda Mountain, and Hill 23 in the graveyard area.

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Why do slavs always fly so low. It's even supposed to be a scout helicopter.

Turks going for Arima. Captured 3 villages already. Let's see if Kurdish gamble pays off.

>>33159228
>if you fly too high infantry armor cannot breath

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Anyone else kind of impressed by how "well" the SAA has managed to perform these past 18 months?

They have to on-going offensive actions in seperate areas of the country (east Aleppo and the push out of T4 to Palmyra). Going on the offensive on this scale is rare and has been in this war, but going on two at the same time is impressive.

For the longest time it felt like only ISIS was capable of maintaining offensives in Syria, but this Russian intervention has really rallied the depleted SAA into action.

Seems like this civil war is entering a completely new phase as well with the decline of ISIS and the rise of the YPG in the north and the return of government offensives elsewhere in the country. 2017 should be an interesting year for this civil war.

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>>33159862

to be fair, the offensive in east aleppo is most likely only so sucessful, because ISIS retreated to Deir Hafir or maybe even further into their teretory

And to the Palmyra/Tadmor offensive, as i already said a lot of times, this offensive is overrated imo AND if ISIS is smart/has the ressources/manpower, they they could try to push through the SAA lines east of T4 and cutting of alot of SAA units - we all have seen the SAA/NDF retreat at Palmyra, it was a mess, so just imagine how fucked they would be, completely cut off in the middle of a desert.

>>33159862
not really. Russia has forced the SAA to close the numerous small pockets in their territory. Which btw, is something everyone from Plaugedoctor to fivestars to literally everyone else has been saying should be a SAA priority. The closing of these pockets has freed up a significant number of troops, which was first used to take aleppo freeing up even more troops, and now is being used for other advances.

The only problem with this strategy is that if these free up troops get attrited, there is literally no fall back option for the SAA and they will exist in name only. Add to this the fact that ISIS has been completely BTFO in Iraq taking massive men and material loses, and it is no surprise that the SAA is advancing. We shall see how these troops do once their supply lines become stretched and ISIS goes full hit and run.

RIght now from strongest to weakest:
SDF with american air support
SAA with all their allies assistance
TFSA with turkish men and material
ISIS
Nursa
FSA what little remains.

>>33160040
SDF lack heavy equipment, I'm willing to bet the TFSA would steam roll the Kurds if they really opened up on them

>>33160094
Neither Russia or seemingly Burgers (at this point) would let that happen.

>>33160107
They are actively fighting and taking villages from the SDF west of Manbij atm.

Who knows, Turkey could pull support but I doubt it, Turkeys end game in Syria was the check the Kurds.

>>33159992
Is IS in it's current state even capable of it?
They seem to be in real decline right now.
I think Mosul will actually fall faster than expected.
Despite all their tries in Deir ez-Zor they didn't really got any serious success too

Uran 9 in Syria
https://twitter.com/SyriaWarReports/status/836685504477278211

>>33155788
>t. grew up as expat in Saudi

Did you enjoy your time in there?

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The TFSA has reached Arimah

Also Palmyra seems to has fallen to the SAA. Lets wait how long it will be before they lose it again.

>>33161337
I doubt they will lose it again
ISIS is not it was used to be
What is really interesting, will they move further towards Deir this time?

>>33130453
Last ISIS held part of mosul will be captured 27 april mark my words.

>>33160865
No.

>>33161337
They've entered Palmyra, they haven't conquered it just yet.

>>33161368
Most likely, with the Kurds advancing on the town, it makes sense for SAA to also advance as ISIL will have to split up its troops, and will be stretched out.

But it also depends how much attrition the SAA troops near palmyra have incurred.

you guys think isis will fuck up the taqbah dam?

>>33161958
And what would it mean down stream? It would stupid of ISIS to fuck up their own capital.

>>33162105
They know they won't have Raqqa by the end of the year.

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hilarious

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>>33160473

I dont really know, how strong ISIS is. Before recapturing Palmyra, they where pretty strong in east homs.
Sure, al-bab (roaches) and the raqqa offensive by YPG/SDF weakened them/overstretched their defensive lines.
The offensive in DEZ really seems like a desperate attack, but in the past ISIS was pretty strong in the desert around palmyra (just think about Mahin/Qaryatayn), so i really wouldnt rush this and reinforce my flanks first.

I really hope they are just collapsing, too

Yes, i'm also pretty impressed by the iraqis in their mosul attack, but this doesnt mean, every frontline ISIS has, is suddenly unable to do offensive moves (one of the reasons palmyra fell was reinforcements from mosul, that retreated to syria)

however, lets see what happens

>>33161958
>>33162130
What possessions they have left in Syria run down the Euphrates (in fact the entirety of that stretch is pretty much under ISIS). Why the fuck would they fuck up their fallback positions, especially their new operations HQ in Al-Qaim?

>>33136033
who are these guys? Why is it that goons in the middle of nowhere have decent clothing and western weapons.

Just in, US has accused Russia of hitting Kurdish troops in the Aleppo province. The Russian government has denied the claims.

At the moment it is unknown if it even happened, but if true it is very likely that the incident was an accident based on how Russia has responded.

>>33162753
>Check Iraq livemaps
>The ISF actually completed an SAA Aleppo-style encirclement through the north.

Well color me surprised. These incompetent fucks are actually making progress.

>>33162551
what video is this from? Is that a webcam on his helmet?

>>33162826
Imam Ali Brigade, part of the PMU (iraqi shia militias)

Friendly reminder that mandic is an underaged airshitter who should be banned.

>>33159862
I'm impressed by the Russians

I'm also impressed by the certain parts of the SAA that don't turn tail and run like Iraqis.

As for everything else, it's arab/shia shit boosted by competent Russians.

>>33161337
ISIS lost over 5,000 men in the last couple months.

Unless the SAA/NDF goes full retard again (always possible), it won't happen.

Don't expect ISIS to be gone though

>>33161337
So the SDF compensate their loss by grabing some territory that the SAA was about to take?

>>33163022
might be one of the 360 cams

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>>33163943
you see Ahmed
when you use 360' camera and aim with AK ironsight, every shot is 360 noscope

>>33163907
Pretty confident that "land" is useless to the SAA's overall goal.

SDF better defend Arimah though

>>33164105
Yea thats what i'm thinking. I'm surprised they haven't pulled off their units in the south front (raqqa, etc.) to defend the North.

>>33130774
Syria is not a good place to be a yank in, no matter what side you're all with, the temptation to sell you into captivity is rather high and profitable

>>33163907
They're cooperating with one/another. SDF is advancing towards Deir Ezzor to relieve the SAA there. Even so, the kurds won't hold onto everything and will most likely trade the territory for political favors in the post ISIL country talks.

>>33160094
my caveat was "with american air support" If the US decides its willing to bomb the TFSA to protect the SDF, the TFSA will be BTFO. The question the Turks have to ask is wheter or not donald will bomb them to protect the kurds or not. Obama never would have bombed the TFSA, but Donald might. Hence if I was erdogan, I would slow down the fight against the kurds until getting a better handle on Trumps priority map..

>>33161368
5star, and myself think that ISIS has a large base of operations somewhere near or in the Shaer gas field area. If the SAA ignores this Base on their flank, the exact same shit will happen again. See what happened when the SAA tried to relieve Deir the last time, then to Palmyra afterwards.

TL:DR a large salient with no reinforcement of the flank on which a large known enemy base sits, will get BTFO each and every time.

SAA got some new toys. They captured a few ACV 15's that ISIL captured from the Turks in the Al Bab offensive.

Its a shot in the dark but im guessing they're gonna trade them for the two SAA troops captured by the TFSA recently.

http://defense-update.com/20170301_sarab-aps.html

Interesting article on the Sareb anti-missle system developed by Syria to defeat TOW's and the like. I hadn't heard much about it, but it does seem like most of the TOW video's aren't against tanks anymore. Apparently it works pretty well.

>>33148861
>I was born in the US and I plan on going back

You mean you plan on going, if you've never been there.

You're not "going home", you're "visiting"

>>33164142
The Kurds might be gambling for leverage.

Better to liberate Raqqa and DeZ first, even let Manbij fall if need be and hold the line at the Euphrates, anything to keep the Sultan from taking credit for liberating Raqqa. Negotiations can happen later (if that ever happens).

>>33166683
They'd rather negotiate with the SAA than Erdogan, so they can make Assad pressure Erdogan to relent their pressure on the Kurds should the YPG get enough political points with the SAA.

So while im sure they want to keep Manbij, their advances on Deir Ezzor is being made to mitigate the possibility of them losing the city to the Turks.

>>33157836

> /k/ nuggetfest: ME edition

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*teleports behind you*

heh, nothing personal kuffar

>>33167419
>Painted on wheel arches and windows
>On a VBIED with an obvious ghetto ass front half and the smaller rear of a Kia Sportage.

Quality craftsmanship.

whatever happened to /syria general/?

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How filthy rich exactly did this war make the Latakia and Tartous Semites, given how the region was barely touched by war?

>>33168146
This is the syria general.

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Is syria the most aesthetic war since the soviet war in afghanistan?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SEOS9fC8eE

Video makes it look like the heli fires the rockets upwards for some reason.

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Well this just happened. Is this YPG scared of the turks or is it a smart move saving resources?

>>33169794
yes, second only to yugo wars

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Why dont Russians use Tu-95 to just carpet bomb the savage jihadists.

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New vatnik footage
>.rt.com/news/379170-palmyra-rt-exclusive-video-photos/

>>33170037
because it's a weapon of mass destruction and therefore it's forbidden?

>>33170338
It's been used before in Syria in 2015

>>33169973
I think it is a way to secure their entire western flank against the Turks. I don't think that the Turks will be retarded enough to directly confront the SAA.

This just in from NTB (Norwegian new bureau): SAA and RuAF have officially captured Palmyra, according to Russian govt.

>>33170883
>>33170883
RT confirming aswell now

God i want WW3 to happen

>>33135399
Thank you for telling me this. Safe pupper is best pupper

>>33170883
>>33170991
IS didn't fight for the city, did they

>>33171244
there were clashes inside city ,but u cant defend the city once the highground was taken ,ISIS fought for those positions but lost , once SAA got those positions it was all over

>>33171244

If they post any more data I will put it here.

Al Quaida have confirmed that their NK Abu al-Khayr al-Masri has been killed, as first claimed by US forces. But AQ must have cheerily confirmed the death of their leaders a hundred times before, falsely, so I won't believe this one unless they show his corpse.

>>33171441
>>33171475
do you guys think the salvation in deir ezzor will come from palmyra or from iraq?

>>33171775
V corps was created to lliberate eastern regions of Syria , including Deir Ezor


there are some officially uncofirmed info that they will continue their advance east now after they liberated Palmyra and that they wont stop like last time

>>33171823
Unless the SAA is a bunch of idiots I doubt their next move will be to try to liberate Deir Ezor. I mean, you do remember that they tried to relieve Deir Ezor from Palmyra before. That attempt was another retard salient through hostile lands, that got ambushed and flanked. Many NDF and SAA died in that venture.

If the SAA wants to relieve Deir Ezor, they need to push ISIS back across the entire front, or else that ISIS base hiding near the Shaer oil fields will ambush them and the V corps will lose a lot of men and material.

>>33150428
I find it to be a good one, at least more reliable than MSM.

>>33169891
Rockets travel in a ballistc arc too.

>>33169891
They're firing them really far away. You gotta fire upwards. Not very effective though.

>>33169973
Hmm perhaps the Syrian government doesn't want Turkey to steal an entire province and turn it into Cyprus 2.0.

Very smart move, as it looks like the real fun is about to start now that ISIS is collapsing. It's fucking hilarious how quickly the Turkrapists have managed to unify the SAA, Kurds, Russians, and USA against them lmfao

>>33172449
You all keep posting about this secret ISIS base in the desert. Do you think it's underground? Or camouflaged somehow? I have no doubt that there is some manpower scattered in the desert, but it still seems it would be hard to congregate any large groups out there.

>>33171244
Russian forces did combat jump into the city.

>>33167419
Holy shit this made me kek

Captcha: Jerome road

>>33172631

"Turkrapists"? Maybe it is just a casual slur, but I don't have much info on this either way. What are Turkish Army soldiers' conduct toward Syrian civilians - and POWs - reported to be like so far?

>>33171244
Over 1,000 dead ISIS in the region since Palmyra was lost, not to mention 4,000+ in Bab/Deir/Raqqa.

ISIS is gonna withdraw to their Euphrates homeland and bide their time.

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>>33164142
Nothing has happened around Raqqah for the past couple of days, so what makes you think they haven't? Honestly curious.

>>33173266
I meant the city itself. I know isis broke their teeth on T4

>>33172449
>>33171823
>>33172632
To the east of Homs is a large rural ISIS semi-arid region. Probably 50,000 people.

That's where they attacked from in April 2016. Stopped the SAA at Suknah.

>>33173266
>Over 1,000 dead ISIS in the region since Palmyra was lost, not to mention 4,000+ in Bab/Deir/Raqqa.
unsourceable meme numbers
I bet you believe the JCTF when they say everything they bomb is a "VBIED factory" too

SAA really needs to clean up desert around Palmyra this time

>>33173294
Every fucking number out of Syria is bullshit exaggerations.

US says "100,000 dead".

The reality is that we got HUNDREDS of dead ISIS pictures from the T4 and the march to Palmyra 2.0
Not to mention all the technicals and destroyed tanks.

ISIS overextended and the Russians exploited that. Question is if the SAA/NDF can handle it by themselves in the future (questionable).

>>33173301
I have zero idea why they made such a giant salient into the desert again, fuck that was retarded

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>>33173436
I'd be willing to wager the number of deaths involved in T4-Palmyra is less than 400.

This war is incredibly low intensity with clashes exceeding company level a very rare occurrence.

Most of the time you see photos of 1-2 guys blown up by an airstrike near their truck, not fields of dead ISIS.

If you want to go ahead and source every death out of the 1000+ like that guy said go ahead, but you and I both know that number is much closer to the hundreds, not thousands.

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>US airstrikes in deir ezzor

how do they even get the intel to find the targets? are there us forces in the area, or are they getting fed locations through a syrian or russian channel? and if it was syrian why wouldnt they have had the russians do it? Some of these airstirkes the last few weeks, in idlib and such, are very odd to me. This cant all just be drones monitoring crap and picking targets at random

>>33175212
There has to at least one(1) us spec ops team slinking around Syria that aren't already working with Kurds right?