gear queer thread /gq/

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>>33075510
Recently started using a Lardy Snickers sling moving from my old MS1. Not a bad sling...nothing revolutionary. Like that it's featherweight and really like how smooth yet solid the sliding mechanism is.

Also, getting close to finishing up this belt build. Any input/suggestions /gq/?

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>>33075535
I am also building a belt set up. Also ordered a Blue force gear micro trauma kit for the belt line. Can I ask what you are putting in it?

Also would getting a multicam black belt be turbo autistic?

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>>33075535
Ive been considering running a fixed blade knife (3-4in) on the belt or putting my multi tool on there. I could do both but thats too much for me.

>Waiting for my gunfighter belt order to git made

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>>33075479
Fine.
T-thanks so much for r-running the thread Blu-s-senpaii~

Fuck you guys, bullying my IFAK. I'm running off to the mountains. Tho seriously I'm gone for a week tomorrow so peace, fegs.

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I've been told to ditch the kneepads, why? Elbow pads I know are stupid shit, but I've found the knee pads to actually be helpful, especially when taking a knee on a range covered in empty brass, etc.

New earpro is gonna be way low on list of things to buy.

Have a sling for rifle, I just remove slings and most other accessories that don't hold a zero from my guns, makes it easier to store.

I have a camelbak in my ruck. (Don't have a assault pack) figured the canteen would be a great way to pack some water if I'm going with my ruck

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2nd line+boomstick

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>>33075535
instead of special purpose light or mutlitool holders have you thought about bfg single or double pistol mag pouches, they fit literally anything and hold it really tight, plus when not in use they are super slim.

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And the ruck, sideways.

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>>33075567
I'm going to keep it simple. I have a minuscule amount of medical training, going to keep it to the basics. Gauze, pressure bandage, 2 pack of chest seals and a tourniquet. Myabe an NPA if I'm feeling froggy. I've been instructed on their proper use (when and how), but still don't like the idea of making the call to insert one.

>>33075601
Same boat. I keep a folder in the pocket and that should suffice for me. The multitool I find myself using all the time when it comes to shooting. Adjusting sights/mounts, field repair/maintenance, gripping and ripping the odd casing that gets stuck somewhere.

>>33075669
I have, but talking to a few people who use those pouches they are not quite as solid as I want. Really looking to make a fairly all around rigid rig here, empty or full. I have some spare soft pistol mag pouches from someone else already that could do the same job if I go that route. Neat design from BFG though with how they shrink when empty.

>>33075656
Nice VZ, buddy. I dig it.

>>33075694
So when DO you use an npa? When someone has went unconscious due to trauma?

>>33075622
have fun larping! Post your AAR

>>33075643
If you must have em, get the ArcTeryx ones
they help, but i never wore em, and yes id regret it buddy rushing on the rocks innadesert, but fk it.

>>33075675
would come into house and open that coke/10

>>33075694
Yeah, Idk we will see when I get there, its a toss up right now. Both are very useful. Either way whichever I dont have on my belt, ill still have.

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>>33075694
>Shark
Aaaaayy.

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>>33075734
I was instructed to NEVER use an NPA on someone suspected of taking severe head trauma, which I would assume they have if they were unconscious. Generally speaking it's obviously to be used when the airway is restricted from sort of trauma. That being said I'm no EMT nor a field medic, hence my hesitation to even pack one. If I did it would mainly be to have it accessible to someone who DOES know what they are doing. Given I'm not .mil, I think it would be likely the person helping me who did know what they were doing is likely to be an EMT with their own bag of them.

>>33075761
Aaaaayy.

>>33075706
Thanks anon, expect a new stock, optic and stubby for grip added in the future

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Fresh meme OC

>>33075942
How much was the pouch and who makes it? Got a list of contents? Looks slim, I need something like that.

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Anyone have any suggestions on gen 3 nvgs? I don't want to overspend when I could get the same thing at a lower price from a non asshole dealer.

>>33075986
I'd just bite the bullet and go new from TVNC unless get a fucking stellar deal.

You don't want to buy "gently used" NODs with shitty tubes.

>>33075986
You can build gen 3 for around 1400
Need a pvs14 body or similar and an mx10160 tube is the cheapest way to go.

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Since we are posting belt set ups here is my planned one

>>33075986
Wow thats a big ass difference, I had no idea it was that dradtic between gen 1 and 2.

>>33076015
Well that's what I was looking at, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't getting jewed on the price. Though to be fair their stuff is top notch

>>33075966
coyote tactical
like 70 bucks i think shipped

contents
compressed gauze
combat gauze
2 chest seals
2 different types of gloves (ones thicker)
roll of 100mph tape
sharpie
NPA
some booboo shit (fk off ppl tht say to drop it, i wont)
medical card (basically index card)
sheers

I can add another combat gauze and compressed gauze no problem as shown here >>33075601 but unless im shtf or innawoods far I dont over pack, for weight considerations.

>>33076118
also there is a cat TQ on the outside

so inb4 anon where is ur tq thooooo

>>33075942
>>33076118
>>33076133
thooooo tq ur is where

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What training techniques do you guys do at the range?

>>33076250
Depends on the range. With rifles I'm generally just checking function and working on general precision/accuracy.

With pistols I'll work accuracy and mechanics on the standard range and move to drawing, moving, firing and reloading on the tactical range.

I save all my tactical rifle bad assery for courses and competitions, or practice that shit on private land.

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>>33076250
Dynamic pistol shooting on steel
Long range rifle shooting on steel
Precision pistol shooting on paper

I need to up my dynamic rifle game

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>>33075510
aahhhh, the simplicity of the soe bungie sling
...plus magpul paraclip

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>>33072125
I can guarantee you if you spend more than a couple hours outside in the cold you'll be wanting a hand warmer.

>>33076362
Why dont they rate their own pouch?

we used to find field pets, and I often kept a turtle in my dump pouch on various patrols and what not.

fun keeping an animal with you innaoperation

>>33075510
is he /ourguy/?

>>33076792
>their own pouch?
My next purchase

>>33076725
there are these things called gloves you can use

oldschool way was to wear liner gloves for shooting, then heavy polar mittens over them. sew some cordage from the index finger to the pinky area of the mittens, with just a tiny bit of slack. Then when you need to get your gun on, snag the cord on something (like a scope mount), pull the mitt off, and your shooting hand is free to work the safety and press the trigger.

wew. my otg holster shipped today a full week ahead of schedule, and my usp parts are coming in this week too.

>>33075510
Should I get a name patch, or would it look too tryhard?

>>33076951
no it's fucking dumb shit for wannabes
the real sign of being a cool guy is being able to wear no insignia

>>33076901
Interested in seeing how the otg is with the tyr belt. Might order one if you like yours

Any recommendations for a CC holster? Specifically one for a CZ83. I don't have any real preference toward the material it's made of.

Thoughts on the BAE systems eclipse rbav?

>>33076871
or you know you can just wear insulated shooting gloves and have a nice handwarmer if you want to keep your hands warm after doing things with the gloves off.

>>33077311
gay shit

Does one still have enough control in hands off carry mounting a sling at the front of the receiver and to the stock?

>>33077349
OK care to elaborate

>>33077375
>front of the receiver and the stock
Depends entirely on which rifle and how far back on the stock.

>>33077321
>have insulated shooting gloves
>having to take your gloves off to do things
Isn't the whole point of a SHOOTING glove, to be dextrous enough you DONT have to take your gloves off to do things?

Also literally no shooting glove is warm enough for serious cold weather. I found that out the hard way on a January duck hunt, -30*F.

>>33077483
sounds like you should have invested in a hand warmer then.
and no, in my experience with working with gloves that even the more dexterous ones still require you to take them off to do some things when working.
plus I've found loading magazines with gloves on tends to shred them.

I love how your trying to argue that he shouldn't have spent 150 on a hand warmer but you haven't said a word about the 1000$ smock

For the record I appreciate skelts empty wallet, I think the hand warmers are pretty dope, although I think they shoulda made them smaller, unless they have a fk ton of insulation

>>33077311
Wont fit plates that it was designed for!!!

>>33077500
I'm a duck hunter. I have more handwarmers than I have hands, feet, dicks, and balls combined. And I use the shit out of them, because the only thing worse than being out in the cold is sitting in a foot of water out in the cold while it's windy doing fuck-all.

I completely rebuilt engines and computers in cold weather with military issued "leather shell" gloves and thick AF wool glove liners on before. Some of it pretty delicate work. You're either uncoordinated as shit or you're doing some incredibly precise shit that is uncommon as hell. Or playing on your phone.

Yes, loading mags round by round shreds gloves. Use stripper clips and that won't happen.

>>33077559
Man, you're cool as fuck, you should chime in more often and grant us access to your wisdom.

>>33077616
>probably sarcastic post
>thread full of seemingly-not-sarcastic trip dicksucking
You're sending mixed messages friend.

Precautionary kys.

>>33075510
Whats a good sling for a full length rifle? I've got a 20 inch barrel AR and as of this point I've just been carrying it all by its lonesome. Seems most slings out there cater the the carbines.

>>33077674
Omg, you're even cooler than I thought. Make a trip and I'll start calling you sir too

>>33077321
>not knowing that liner gloves are, by definition, insulated
>taking off your gloves for what reason, jerking off? if you need to push small buttons use a pen or a stick
>unnecessarily taking your hands off your weapon to jam them in a handwarmer when you could just wear mitts.

face it, you want a handwarmer cause you saw some pics of SEALs with them. meanwhile the NATO nations that are experts in winter warfare all issue layered cold-weather glove systems. in arctic warfare environments. Hell, talking to some norwegian infantry vets, they just say to wear wool liners under a normal combat glove down to -15C while active, and down to -5C static.

>>33077375
not my preference. I like for the sling points to be approximately equidistant from the balance point of the rifle.

>>33077711
https://www.spectergear.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=532

>>33077711
VTAC or VCAS slings should have enough adjustment for you

>>33077820
CAF operations regiment. Sometime lurk threads because friend showed me it.
There's nothing wrong with hand warmers. Wool base layers are fine but frankly wool is overkill even at -10C.
If I'm off in the North or and active I'll layer but it completely depends on your ao. Don't mean to get caught up in this but there's nothing objectively wrong with his setup even if wool base layers are a stronger choice yes

For the record unless you have one of those cool Outdoor Research mits that can peel back then just don't wear mits period. I don't care if you're an arctic research scientist if you plan on using your hands at all not a good idea to have to strip layers just to use your digits.

Norwegians are great dudes. Always enjoy the mountain trips when working with them.

>>33077969
i agree that hand warmers aren't inherently bad but skelly acts like they're the only game in town which is demonstrably false. i'm tired of this faggot acting like he knows about cold weather ops cause he lives in a heated house in canuckistan. that's like me being an expert in jungle warfare cause i lived in SEA for a while.

Skele has a track record of acting like he knows shit when in fact he's mostly clueless and simply has more money than sense

>>33078062
I get my jollies off by trolling trips, and I generally dislike them. As much as I would like to say otherwise, I have never seen skelebore act like he knows much of anything other than how to spend a bunch of money.

>>33078062
Most of us tend to live in heated houses up here. We're not Finnish so it might be hard to get by otherwise.

I suppose. But you might be surprised what a difference going out and playing in the shit for half your life makes when you actually have to live in the stuff. Always makes me laugh what a shock your seals are in for once they pass BUDS and get shipped off to Alaska since they all seem to be from the southern big 3 states where I'm not sure it snows aside from apocalypse situations like in Dallas 3 years ago.

Either way, temperature is a little more subjective and in how you deal with it but what's most important is not getting wet. There are a million ways to layer for -20 and -30 and then wind chill. That's the easy part. What's harder is when you work up a sweat running around doing cool guy stuff in a forest and your legs are soaked and you get frostbite because you forgot to wear gator's or those obnoxious super hightop boots that are a blessing and a curse.

Take it easy guys.

>>33078102
i've literally seen that cuck giving fitness advice in these threads before

nigga thinks it's easy to lunge a 45lb barbell nonstop for 30 minutes or something

>>33078141
Having cold weather sure helps, but in the end what you actually do matters more than where you live, and i'm half convinced skeletor doesn't do anything outside except take range selfies and roll around in the dirt to make his gear not look brand new.

>>33078184
>but in the end what you actually do matters more...
Not any of the folks you have been talking with to this point, but I think most could agree with this. I'm constantly humbled in the tactical and the survivalist world by folks with loads of experience. We'll gear up to hit the mountains for a week straight. I have some good experience in those conditions for extended periods going back 25+ years, but I'm not an expert by any means. I'll have some of the latest gucci camp kit, some of the best trail kit. Guys who have been to the top of some of the most dangerous mountains in the world or have spent literal months on their own in the harshest environments on Earth are rolling with kit a lot of the REI clergy would consider poorfag. They know how to use it though, decades of doing what few dare do has given them wisdom you can't look up or buy. They can do more in 14 days with 10L of space than I can in 3 days with 40L.

Same goes for shooting. I've been fortunate to know, shoot and be friends with guys who have been at the top of that food chain. They'll bring what many would consider ghetto kit and rifles and do more with it than I could with every top shelf gadget or rifle on the market. Again, can't buy or research that type of feel, experience and skill.

>>33076808
sure, I guess

>>33078247
Is this the new navy seal copy pasta?

>>33078503
>>33078247
this is fantastic
>14 days on 10L
he must be packing fucking lembas bread or something

>>33078503
It's a good candidate...maybe a bit too humble for great pasta though. He needed to be the one making 10L of space last 2 weeks and not his K2 dominating friend.

>>33078548
Water and food is highly overrated dude. If you can't survive on will alone you should GTFO and KYS.

>>33077854
Not bad but I think that will mess with my mag carrier on the buttstock.

>>33077928
Never looked at much at vickers stuff but that looks pretty good.

Thanks lads

>>33075734
>>33075825
You don't use an NPA on someone who has taken severe facial trauma because you may end up shoving it into the skull, and all that grey good stuff.

If its clear as day that his skull isn't busted open in his nasal cavity, you're good to go. Good reference to see if some dude's head is busted is to look for clear liquid draining from nose or ears. That's cerebral spinal fluid and means his brain is exposed or skull damaged somewhere. It also smells sweet, like Juicy Fruit sinces sugar dense.

Main purpose of an NPA is to open the persons airway if trauma or what have you has obstructed/inflammed/etc. the airway and the guy can't open his own airway. The NPA directs the tube towards the lungs to make a guaranteed airway.

Listen for air travelling through and it should be good.

OPA's work well too but they're uncomfortable as fuck and will fuck a dudes shit up if he has busted teeth in his mouth.

Source, mil.

>>33075510
Should I feel bad for just putting leather G3 slings on all my rifles?

>>33077820
I work in the field in arctic conditions. Those things are nice as fuck.

Too many layers can cut of circulation on extremities, so while a wool liner plus insulated leather gloves may work for a bit, it'll cut off circulation eventually.

Most ideal setup is:
Insulated water resistant leather gloves for shooting
Water resistant insulated mittens that are wide enough to casually wear over the aforementioned insulated gloves
Selfactivating hand warmers inside mittens

The tacticool hamdwarmer pouch thing takes the place of the mittens, which is convenient since mittens get caught on everything even when fastened around your back.

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/akg/ doesn't like my Saiga :(((

>>33079442
it's not exactly good looking.

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I moved some stuff around on my belt. Also lowered the suspenders so ithe belt rides more in my hips. Still heavier on the right side but more evened out now

>>33075510
bad financial decisions part 3(?)

1. a black LBT 6094 for 200 dollarydoos
2. a pair of comtacs for 370
3. a bagarii and LSHZ-2DT when theyre in stock
4.eagle industries MBAV
5.ranger body armor in DCU or woodland
6.paraclete vest

help decide pls

also i think im going to sell my CIRAS, its a bit too small for me.

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>>33079468
Comtacs, howard leights suck dick for coms

>>33079542
what about the MSA version of comtacs? theyre a little bit cheaper.

>>33079638
Are you running comms or just want ear protection?

Gear noob here. Need some input guys. should I bother getting both a chest rig and a plate carrier, or just one? Or if I get a carrier like the Mayflower APC, should I just get pouches, or one of the rigs that is compatible with the clipping system? Are any of the clip on rigs like the Mayflower or HS compatible with 7.62 AK mags? Thanks in advance!

>>33079652
both

>>33079670
Literally all of those are valid options. Lemmemask you sumthin' though, you getting quality plates? If not don't get a plate carrier.

>>33075643
you need at least 1 more rifle mag on that belt

>>33076089
switch M&P for a Glock.

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>you will never remove hood trash innafavela with your Mk18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n46zZ_y3hqA&index=182&list=PLtQFeTpdXg-iVjmd7INpRGF6Z9OQdTd2U

>>33079670
depends on what you want to use the gear for

>>33079692
Planned on getting lv 4 ceramic plates

>>33079789
Training, shtf, innawoods fun.

>>33079468
>don't go black
>meh
>meh
>not as comfy and awesome as people made it sound back in the mid 2000s when nobody made good plate carriers.
>meh
>expensive mostly for collectors reasons now

idk im spending money on mags, midwayusa has glock 17 mags for $16 and M3 pmags for $12 today

>>33079806
i would probably at least want the option of wearing plates so i'd get a plate carrier

>>33079831
the MBAV is a pre MSA one, and not expensive and the bagarii is good for an MVD airshitter kit.

ill probably spend the money on an MSA headset or comtacs.

>>33079831
Can the kangaroo pouch in the APC hold three 7.62x39 AK mags or is it tiered more towards ARs, so they won't fit? Primarily running an AK so that's my biggest concern.

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>>33079542
Nice meme ya got there bud

>>33079860
MSA never owned Eagle so all MBAVs are pre-MSA

unless you're talking about the paraclete vest.

>>33079877
ugh i have an APC but I don't have AK mags
they most likely won't fit but I know there's a guy on here with 5.45 mags in his.

>>33076089
chinook medical makes a great ifak

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>>33079442
I like it, except for the huge magazine.
Also lose those black rail covers. They are fucking it up.

>>33079910
the MBAV is a molle one, i forgot to mention theres a pre msa paraclete for sale too.

>>33079763
don't think so senpai. Already have my CORE that I got for $300 and I love it so I am sticking with it
>>33079924
will take a look at them

>>33079877
>>33079910
Well that's a disappointment....

>>33079928
>huge magazine
What about the mad minute?

>>33076118
STOMP COYOTE TACTICAL?!?!?!?!?!

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Welp the purchase went trough, hopefully it will ship. Had to contact Equipnor and bait out that they did have some Ops Core helmets left in Tan(M/L).

>>33079877
Hate to ask to be spoon-fed, but anyone here have the APC and 7.62x39 mags? Would be very grateful if you could try to fit three in the kangaroo pouch and post picture. Tried to do forums search and Google images, but turned up nothing.

>>33080225
Im I reading that right??? Is that nearly ten thousand dollars or am I blind?

>>33080337
Reading is on point, currency is not.

About $1400

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any of you queers want this?

>>33080344
>33079877
desu for a new opscore, that's a good price in the US too. They've really jumped up

>>33080476
I've bought mine for $900 a few months ago brand new.

>>33080409
Price and size?

>>33080409
What is it and how much?

>>33080476
I dont mind it, my other options are getting a Crye Airframe from Tacwrk, or fill out shitton of paperwork and order the delta x, or something wrong the states. At the end of the day, its a pretty good price. Will probably buy some peltors's and other stuff at the end of the month when I get paid.

>>33080655
or just not buy a helmet

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>>33077820
or I wanted a handwarmer because it constantly gets to -30 Celcius with wind chill here and I like to have extra warmth. if its -10 or so thats warm enough to go without gloves even.
it's funny how spergy you get over how I spend my money

>>33080501
probably old gen, new new opscores are $1200+

>>33080683
but how will we protect our heads from nerf darts?

Just a heads up i know the g43 is memed but for those of us that have it.. I received an email from esstac letting me know they willing be coming out with a kywi pouch when ETS releases their extended mags..

>>33080707
Yeah it is old and pre-gentex, but there's literally no difference.

>>33080546
>>33080608
Gentex 3A ACH medium pads $100 shipped

>>33080683
You stop posting now, you're getting very close to the edge.

>>33080834
Burner?

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PREPARING MY GEAR FOR SOLDIER BOY CHALLENGE

HOPING TO NUT IN FANCY

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>>33080683

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I prefer Ferro Concepts Slingster
but the BFG Vickers is not too shabby.

>>33078758
Whatever works.

>>33079468
Save your money and invest in what you need at the time.
If your earpro is a shit, get some comtacs.

>>33081292
Pack your pockets with spaghetti and don't forget to pack your kit with tindies, so you'd have enough to go around.

>>33081292
add a /k/ patch on your kit.

>>33081563
>a reasonable answer
sheeeit. ive decided to not buy any of the above for a little bit and think my shit though.

>>33075535
>Any input/suggestions /gq/?
get a non-kryptek chest rig fag

>>33080279
Anyone?

>>33080409
Could I purchase the mount by itself?

>>33081630
He should add a Reddit patch and cointelpro the operation up.

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i duct taped an ar500 plate to the front of the kevlar sheet on one of those flak vests.

am i 50 cent bulletproof now

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>>33081728
Jokes on you, I sold that chest rig for the same money I bought it for.

Unrelated to this unrepentant faggot, anyone have experience with first spear carriers? About done with my belt build and am feeling autistic enough to maybe invest in a low pro plate carrier and plates again.

>>33081921
That's probably the best thing I've seen all day. Hey if it works it works I guess. Make sure when you're running around it stays put.

>>33082169

yeah i shook it a bunch to see if it was gonna slip but really it just need to be secured on the bottom. Theres probably a more elegant solution but the entire setup is low-effort bargain-bin status, pretty sure the plate and the jacket together cost less than 100 bucks.

Sell me on a tactical belt.
Needs a holster for glock, couple mag pouches for raifu and pistol, dump pouch and an ifak

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>>33082264
You looking for a pre-built rigid system with pouches/holsters and all or just the belt to add pouches and holsters yourself?

As far as belts, do you want riggers? battle belt? A hyrbid like the HTC belt that's business in the front party in the back? A full leather? A competition belt?

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>>33082166
I'd stay away from a dedicated flashlight and multi-tool pouch, when I have perfectly good pant pockets/ shirt pockets.

on the First Spear low pro PC I've heard they sit too low.


>>33082264
what I run.
AWS LAB belt
AWS dump with IFAK
Safariland 6280
OTGHEX eggrolls Rifle pouches have a tactical offset.

>>33082330
I have a riggers but I want something I could throw in the trunk to compliment my chest rig, or to use as a standalone. I want to be able to change it as I go so I'm assuming MOLLE AF


>>33082338

Price for total?

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>>33082338
I feel you on the belt and flashlight carriers, which is why I have them listed as potential. If I have the room I may jump on the multitool simply because I use it all the time. That and I'd had a flashlight in left pocket and my folder knife in the right already.

Appreciate the info on the spear.

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>>33082368
*I feel you on the multitool and flashlight carriers...

*That and I'd have a flashlight...

>>33080834
I'll do it, give me an email.

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>>33082389

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R8 hate operate?

>>33082368
should just buy a LV-MBAV.

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>>33082429
Seconded.

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>>33082456
>>33082429
If they weren't autistic-tier geardo expensive I would consider it. More than likely Velocity is getting my low vis money if it turns out that first spear is indeed garbage. It's also entirely probable I come to my senses and remember that I hate wearing plates and would be entirely unlikely to be wearing them in any feasible scenario where I would use my gun(s) against another human being.

>>33082456
What antenna is that?

>>33082365
AWS LAB $70
AWS IFAK/Dump 23.70 + 18 for the insert
Holster $90
rifle pouches/pistol $110

>>33082368
I save a space on my belt line for 100rd saw pouch or larger just incase I need GP stuff to tag along for what I'm doing.

>>33082389
can never have enough flashlights.
I can't tell you how many times my Streamlight 66118 has saved my bacon

>>33082429
>>33082456
Back off on my meme gear.

>>33082473
just buy the airshit model, just cosplay anyways really.

http://www.toysoldier.com.hk/product/detail/1219

the Velocity systems backpacks are pretty dope looking I still cant decide if I want a mystery ranch pack or a velocity systems

>>33082166
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zle7Mw0-WTI

review of comp-tac belt

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>>33082527
>reccomending that hot garbage.
Don't make me screech at you... drmervintacticaltailoring or mollemonkeytactical are where to go if you want a good knockoff.

>>33082527
Bruh. Buying the airshit version is to us what a daki is to /a/. Can't have the real thing so we shell out for a cheap imitation.

>>33082603
its a meme carrier to begin with really.
unless you're willing to shell out a fuck tonne of money on a carrier that probably costs 100 dollars to make why spend the extra dosh

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>>33082527
I have a buddy with a Velocity day pack he takes out for quick overnight hiking trips or hunting. Has held up extremely well.

Never seen a Mystery Ranch in person but the reputation they have is obviously outstanding.

What's the price difference on the two?

>>33082618
Coming from a guy who spent 1k usd on a jacket to larp in I'd expect you have the opinion that you'd want to buy a quality peice of gear, espically a plate carrier

To each their own

>>33082541
Yeah I've seen and heard plenty on Comp-tacs. Actually had a standard 1.5 tapered to 1.25 without velcro years and years ago that either got stolen or lost and was my favorite carry belt for concealment. I have no doubts about the quality of their leather, but for a heavy duty rig that would be worn with at least 70% of it outside of the belt loops relying on the velcro, I wasn't 100% on. They have a fairly thin velcro strip and the fact it's 1.25" in front tapered to 1.5" in the back compared to 1.5" in the front tapered to rigger style 1.75" in the back on the HTC made me give HTC the shot here. We'll see how it fairs.

>>33077969
>CAF operations regiment
What did he mean by this?

>>33082743
Canadian Armed Forces, I'm guessing.

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>>33082679
I own a quality carrier, and I think its probably the best slick carrier on the market, the LV-MBAV is neat but really is only for crye or die fags.

>>33082166
I've read that that first spear carrier is very uncomfortable

>>33082482
Thales Whip
>>33082520
I bought mine before yours. Plus Toad is the original memer.

>>33082711
they sell one that isn't tapered at the front

>>33082894
Yeah, but you still have 1.5" to work with and a very comparatively thin strip of velcro. You're talking about 1" of velcro mating with 1.5" of underbelt velcro with .25" on the top and bottom raw leather. I was afraid that would be an issue carrying such a heavy load with a majority not constrained by loops.

With the HTC you are getting 1.75" of outer velcro mating with 1.5" of underbelt velcro.

>>33082820
I read that too. Other anon mentioned hearing they hang low, but given the shoulder straps are adjustable, I'm not sure that would be a huge issue. One of my local spots usually carries first spear soft gear, may go see if I can try one on if I end up making a move.

>>33082166
>I sold that chest rig
>capable of learning
i underestimated you

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>>33082429

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>>33083165
>Thinks I sold it because of the camo pattern

>>33082949
Hopefully you can try it with plates in it

36 more days on my tyr order

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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>>33082429
>tfw ordering one

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Finally got a setup that I can fit in my 3day pack.

Debating on a gemtech trek or the Halo. How big of an issue is seizing on a direct thread?

>>33083669
you better not be prepping for shtf with that crap anon!

>>33082473
>>33082473
just get those 3+ ceramic reinforced polyethylene plates

my long long term gear goal is to get a slick pc with those defendr plates armorous maximus shills. Might not take 3006 ap, but it'll take everything else for 4.1 pounds each

guys
if you double tap everything
doesn't that mean you basically have half the rounds in your magazine

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>>33083669
>Camo anything
>white AR15
???????
>>33083854
>3+
>Polyethylene
Mfw

>>33083863
shut the fuck up donny your out of your element

>>33083711
Nah, just to pick off antifa from rooftops.
>>33083865
Do you even future war?!

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I want to replace my ilbe. Any suggestions? Looking at 30-50 liters, I haven't tied down all of what is my "camping" gear yet so that's why the volume is so varied.

>>33083905
>Nah, just to pick off antifa from rooftops.
with an AR pistol?

>>33083907
Mystery Ranch ruck is unbeatable if you need to haul a lot.

Though recently, I've been reducing and reducing and now have a generous 3 day load in a USGI assault pack and it feels a lot less cumbersome.

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>>33083907
Arcteryx Khard
>>33083863
Not if your mag is 60 rounds
>>33083905
>Do you even future war?!

>no optic, thermal, lasers or active protection system
Do you even into future war?

>>33083865
>plastic guns

Mfw

-grandpa

>>33083944
>Not if your mag is 60 rounds
kek

>>33083957
ARs are aluminum retard

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>>33083933
>>33083907
I use an ALICE pack, but Im a degenerate and the bags are cheap because of the 8000000 surplus stores around base.

That being said, how much water realistically does anyone here carry out when innawoods? Im taking a canteen and a camelbak for about 2 days, plus purification tablets and a sawyer, and while Im sure Ill be fine, Im curious as to what everyone else brings. Mind you, this is all carried weight, no vehicle available so straight rucking around.

>>33083978
inna fun camping environment i take about 1 gallon a day, assuming im not humping it a far distance.

most ive ever stretched it was 2 canteen 1 camelback on a 5 day long pb op, with 25k ruck run out on 5th day, and think i had like 3 mres for that (field stripped obvi)

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>>33084047
Im camping near a lake so Im taking fishing tackle, rod and reel. Water wise I should be good, I just wish that shit didnt tack on so many extra pounds.

Food wise is another story, Im taking main course and side meal, one jalapeno cheese, 2 cliff bars, and a pack of smokes. Im planning on either losing weight or eating freshly caught fish.

Hey gear queers. I want to get a cheek rise for my Thompson Center Contender that I use for deer hunting and hog hunting. Been using the iron sights on it for the longest, but I got a scope for it. Of course the scope is like 2 inches above the bore and now I need to get a cheek riser for it so my eye is inline with the scope. I'm not looking to get some few hundred dollar kit that completely screws into the stock, just something that I can strap onto the stock and rise where I rest my cheek on the stock. Any recommendations?

I already got some gun tape and some foam pads, and rigged my own cheek riser at the moment. It's kinda ugly looking, but it works just fine. I would rather get something a little nicer looking.

I was hoping you gear queers could help me out so I don't have to make a thread about stock accessories.

>>33083933
Is that a specific model?

>>33083944
I like those but I need wand pockets for my ba ba

>>33083966
This is the only reply you will get

>>33084102
I heard the guys on here complaining about the shoe laces would these be any better?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/No-Tie-Elastic-Shoelace-Lock-Laces-Shoe-Strings-Fastening-Sports-Locking-Toggle-/111988100973?var=&hash=item1a1302cf6d:m:mgjqtIIO6HJD8CkId295FHw

>>33083978
I take about 64 ounces with me, no matter how long I'm staying and get water and purify it wherever I am.

>>33084124
Mystery Ranch 6500 or any of their Expedition packs is probably what you'd look for. It's pricy as fuck, but if you're serious about carrying weight it is great.

>>33084167
My buddy uses those for his running shoes and they seem alright. I just use 550 on my new Merrells.

>>33084175
That sounds right, I have a camp stove, purification tablets, and a filter so the lake water should be drinkable if I do a combo of two methods.

>>33084212
dont get beaver fever anon

>>33084134
are you implying I'm incorrect
barrel, associated hardware, and bcg are steel
but the upper and lower receivers are both aluminum

>>33084222
3 purification methods to supplement what Im being led to believe is ample water, I think Ill be good.

If not, there will be some goodies in a forest somewhere around Fort Hood if I dont manage to get comms to work.

>>33084212
Yeah you sound set. I'd filter first then boil, I wouldn't use tablets unless you couldn't boil.

>>33084237
I don't think I have seen but a couple ar15's that have no plastic parts. Besides, I said plastic guns. Most newly designed pistol frames are plastic. A lot of newly designed rifles have a shit ton of plastic in them. Of course, none of those firearms are completely plastic, just like no plate that can take m855, m193, and m80 is completely plastic.

>>33079652
>>33079675

get a peltor XPI Headset with a gentex microphone

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Anyone know what this AR is? I swear I can see a rifle length gas block under that NSR, but the barrel must be 16"??

Also to make it related, do any of you fags use that Proctor WOTG sling?

>>33084345
my guess is 14.5 im sure he mentions it tho in his ar video

>>33084355
are you referring to the recce rifle, I think it was a different gun cuz it had a kmr on it.

Just idle speculation here but would cautery pen have any place in an outdoors kit as a wind proof and reliable fire starter? Have a few lying around that I have been playing with and the thought just crossed my mind

>>33084532
In theory, yes, especially if you had some good dry shit to burn like some pocket lint.

In execution...not sure. Just go outside and try one out and see if it burns things

>>33084607
where I currently am people might get a bit alarmed but I will give it a go and report back in the future it does seem to go through paper like a hot knife through butter

>>33082821
>I bought mine before yours.
*doubt

Toad did beat us to the punch on autistic meme gear.

>>33084107
I'm assuming you already read the Lucky Gunner article on diy cheek riser? Idk what else there is if you don't wanna spend >$100

>>33084345

Hey brother. The rifle is a experimental design sent to me by a company to T&E. It's a 16 inch barrel with a rifle length gas system.

>>33082777
Hey skeleton what tripple mag pouch are you running on your PC there?

>>33082415
10/10, would remove ukie fascists with

Gonna buy some AR500™
® brans AR500 to shoot with some friends soon
Should I get a backpack plate or shooter cut plate?
Either way it's gonna be flat, so I feel like the backpack plate makes more sense if I end up using it after the fact since I'd have it

>>33085297
Neat!
How's it been treating you?
I've always heard that there's not enough dwell time for rifle gas on a 16" barrel for it to be reliable.
(I have a rifle gas fetish)

>>33084291
Peltor Comtac 3's are top tier. Considering ordering some if my unit gives me the go ahead.

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>>33085297

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>>33085297
>tfw daddy posts in the thread

>>33085336
Ferro concepts kydex mag insert inside a Spiritus chest rig.

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>>33085405
The gas port is big right now and that causes significant problems with suppressors. Without a suppressor it is ok. It shoots flat but I'm not sure that the trade offs are worth it.

You can see the amount of gas blowback with a suppressor mounted is pretty intense.

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>>33085461
>all that gas
Jesus

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Recently picked up a battery powered light stick by Nite Ize. I'd stayed away from battery "chemlites" because they seemed like memes, but I got to say it's super handy. The output is bright as fuck, making it great for keeping track of people in the dark or just general non-light displine camping stuff. I've got one now on the shoulder of my pack as a great hands-free light source.

Pic doesn't show it unfortunately, but it's secured well with some 550.

>>33085461
So maybe for people planning to suppress sticking with more normal gas systems would be better, or even better than that an adjustable gas block + this.
But yeah that is a ton of gas, damn.

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>>33085487
>>33085511

Compare it to the MK18 which is known to be very gassy and you'll see how bad the Rifle length opened gas port is.

Normal gas system with adjustable gas block would be best, or a good piston system if you plan on shooting almost all suppressed.

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>>33085534
wew
Appreciate the replies/ pictures, I had considered making rifle gas happen on a 16" barrel a few times, maybe I shouln't aha.

>>33085461
>>33085534
Not here to post anything useful but how did you manage the exact same picture pose and all, just with different guns.

>>33085579
Yeah, stick to carbine or midlength depending on barrel length.

>>33085600
I was running the same drill with both guns to see how they compared. Getting that T&E in. Camera was on a tripod.

>>33085439
That's breddy qul. What do you keep in your front pouch?

I'm moving to a PC from a chicom, what PC should I get? looking for something compatible with 10x12 plates.

>>33085616
It looks like someone just photoshopped in a new gun.

So what you're telling me is that you're a robot?

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>>33085616
You ever consider doing a pistol/holster setup video or would there just not be enough subject matter?

>>33085683
>Condor will be your best bet of course.

What is your budget?
Are you wanting a slick carrier or built in mag pouches?
Do you want side plates?
Are you looking for super low vis?
Do you want fries with your shake?
Do you plan on mounting a chest rig?
Does your mom favor applesauce or barbecue sauce?

I need answers to all of these.

>>33085683
Condor MOPC.

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>>33085688
haha, I practice a lot. So my body mechanics are pretty much the same between both guns. I'm not a robot. I'm an imperfect clone grown by Haley Strategic in their basement.

>>33085713
Yes, that is coming very very soon

>>33085783
Sir, we're gonna need one more very, for the shoot, the tweens will dig it. Press will be here in 30 minutes, is your script ready?

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>>33085683
good guide

>>33085838
Iel

>>33085822
ready. gonna wing it.

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>>33085783
>I'm an imperfect clone grown by Haley Strategic in their basement
Did Travis accidentally fling mags at the vat too hard and crack it allowing foreign contaminants to enter?

>Yes, that is coming very very soon
sweet

>>33085864
I don't know to be honest. He won't talk with me.

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>>33085783
Weird question, how big are your hands? Haven't fucked with IR illuminators on "girthy" quad rails so I'm hesitant to build a mk18 with a quad rail if and when in the future I do buy a cool guy IR illum because if it's too big to physically get a good grip on that would suck.

>>33085838

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>>33085908
nice. this was the original but i cropped it because it didnt make sense

>>33085908
Average hands for a guy my height and I have no problem. I'm about 6 foot.

>>33085953
HAHA TINY BABY MANLET HANDS!!!!

>>33085953
6'1", and medium gloves but I have smaller hands from what I've seen. I'll just ask a friend who has one as well and maybe we can play around a bit. Then obviously ask him about the gun.

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>>33085953
I only came across your videos recently but I have to say they are very informative and well put together. Thanks for putting so much effort in to them and it is appreciated.

>>33086001
I don't know what to do with them.

>>33086011
You should be fine brother.

>>33086015
Appreciate it very much.

>>33086039
Besides exo(because of the price so bare that in mind) what packs would you recommend around 40-50 liters?

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>>33086111
What's your approximate budget?

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Did I do any good here?

>>33086133
250, but I could do 300 United States Dollar

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>>33086154
>not working
>for parts
Maybe the tubes will be good but I have serious doubts for that price. Can you link the full listing?

>>33086133
I asked the guy from t.rex arms if he liked your videos. He said you were a unique bird.

>>33086176
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AN-PVS-5-goggle-monocular-night-vision-/112305049795?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&autorefresh=true&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=mw3yatTVPDgQh%252FN8wqZ1PG2rxWo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

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>>33086039
Love the videos brother. In honor of Father Haley here is a pic of a grill shooting my Jack Carbine.

>>33086154
If the body works, fuckin sweet

If the tube works, even fuckin sweeter

>>33086168

If you're looking for internal frame Osprey makes a great pack.

If you're ok with external the Large Alice with hellcat modification is honestly a great buy.

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>>33086203
I have an ilbe right now, would the modded Alice be better?

>>33086183
ha, Lucas is a good dude. We've talked quite a bit.

>>33086194
Grill who shoots guns is best grill.

>>33086222
nah, ILBE is great.

>>33085297
You're a fucking douchey-looking cuck :)

>>33086194
Did you find her in the reject pile from all the lethargic band nerds?

>>33086269
<3 love you too

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Superior minimalist setup. 3 rifle mags 2 pistol mags and a fanny pack for IFAK

>>33086264
You think I should just stick with her until I can afford an exo?

>>33086390
fuck, the phone camera quality gods fucked me.

>>33086373
Honestly the ILBE is great. Unless you have significant problems with it, it will serve you well.

>>33086350
What do you keep in the half front pouch? I guess they are selling woodland now

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>>33086275
I did, but fortunately new girl is a step up. Still working on her form...

>>33086410
Ok cool, I thought the grass on the other side must be made of gold, appreciate the advice.

>>33086410
Yo homeskillet, off-topic but what's your water filter of choice?

I've been using the Sawyer minis for years but am at the point where I take two of them on a trip at a time because I break them like it's my job. Not sure if they are that fragile or I'm just that retarded.

Cheap enough to buy by the box and not lose sleep, but I wouldn't mind something known to be more retard proof if you have one in mind.

I know you've mentioned iodine and the tablet/solution route, and I keep some in my packs as a backup/supplement to boiling, but filtration is so easy/fast.

>>33086442
speed loaders, surefire sonic defenders, extra batteries. I'm lacking a multitool. Spiritus has not yet released gear in m81, I was lucking enough to receive the sack pouch for free through instagram live.

>>33086601
We are issued a couple different MSR filters and they work great. Honestly though I mostly iodine or bleach my water. Mostly because I'm typically on the move and time at a water source is bad for certain environments that I typically train my guys in.

>>33085534
>good piston system
good luck with that

>>33085713
he kind did that in his belt set up video didnt he? review that for starters

>>33086154
are you going for a splintercell cosplay? because thats the base nvg you need

>>33086644
>he kind did that in his belt set up video didnt he? review that for starters
he did cover that but it was only a small section in the video. Compared to something like his sling video where it is a similarly small topic but have made a 12 minute vid from it. Can't wait for the vid he says is coming though

>>33086644
Maybe let's see if it works first, fingers crossed

>>33086644
I've had good luck with PWS. HK MR556 would be good if it werent for all the weird shit they do.

>>33086641
>MSR
Fuck. I always hate sacrificing the space for the bigger MSRs but I guess I might have to give them a shot, know camping/hunting friends who swear by them. Luckily I can stand around picking my nose all day at a water source if needed so filtering is my go to. Benefit also being my water tastes like delicious water and not liquid cancer. Appreciate it.

>>33086709
>liquid cancer
oh dude I know. I much prefer filters. Honestly my knowledge on them is somewhat thin given my experience.

What's the best way to run a uv5r with a spiritus rig?

Am I better off fixing it to/in a day pack?

>>33086823
When you drink your liquid ass, is there still a bunch of dirt and particulate floating around if you just scoop it from a stream?

If you're up North you can just melt snow and that won't have any sort of dirt in it usually but how do you go about dealing with bits of sand and dirt once you've killed all the living things in it?

>>33086852
Usually use a shemagh or extra t shirt to filter the water if it's really bad. Otherwise I hold the opening 90 degrees to the flow of the stream and that helps limit particulate matter.

Or you can scoop it, let it settle - then pour off the clean fluid at the top.

>>33086879
I've watched a few of your videos on packs and the chest rig.

I noticed you made no mention of spare parts for your rifles. Do you not carry at least a spare bolt assembly when in the field?

>>33086823
What I like though is that you are living proof that the retards at places like the local REI store who get out in the woods four times a year and swear that extended use of iodine/bleach will kill you are indeed retarded.

It's obviously not great for months on end, but given your job it seems like you guzzle down more than your fair share of chemically treated pond kool-aid.

>>33086852
That's by far my least favorite part of the chemical treatment method. Can't do much about particulates, larvae, etc. You can use cloth to filter from one container to another, but that obviously doesn't apply for dudes who don't have the time to use a handheld pump filter.

>>33086915
I was wondering this as well. Doesn't make a lot of sense to carry another whole rifle with you but at least the smaller more critical parts.

>>33086915
Depends on the op, and the length of the op

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>>33086919
REI guys are cool, they have a different style of things they do over there. But they def over exaggerate iodine lethality. I should be dead. I've drank some shitty fucking water (pic related, fuck that pond). If you have the option to not use iodine do it. If there's nuclear fallout use iodine. If you're in combat use iodine.

>>33086915
personally i don't see the need to carry spare AR bolts. if you think it's gonna break swap it out. a new one should easily be good for 5k-7k rounds so there's no way you're going to really burn through that much in one or even several operations.

>>33086959
I refuse to believe that it's you. WHO IS YOUR FATHER?

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>>33086959
Word. Solid advice as usual.
>REI guys are cool
Not my REI guys unfortunately. Bunch of hipster weekender types unfortunately.

I've even thought about rigging picture related on one of my bladders, but given how many of these little fuckers I've broken, and how fragile the setup looks, I think I'll just stick to handheld use.

>>33086834
you could add it to the front admin area or just add it to one of the mag inserts.

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>>33086995
Me from back in selection. I think Travis Haley but again he doesn't talk to me.

>>33087035
hory shit, it's really you! sell me your used unwashed ranger panties.

>>33087030
If I add it to the front pouch I feel like it would get in the way with mags or something. I don't have it yet though so I can't really experiment with it.

>>33075510
made my own VTAC because I liked the idea but don't wanna drop 40 dollaz on a sling

>>33076086
Build? Enlighten me please.

>>33086154

I've been watching that for days. Congrats on winning it; I forgot about it. Might have placed a bid.

I'm an electronics guy and think I might have been able to niggered it enough to get it working, but hard to say. Good luck with it.

If anything, take it to a gun show and sell it to some stupid overpriced dealer.

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Does anyone make like a garter belt system for knee pads and if so why not? Other than maybe straps being annoying but I'm thinking more for inside the pants use.

Kind of like this but not lace.

>>33087035
Been following since your rifle reload/transition to pistol video. Wish other youtube fags had your sense of humor, you're professional without being a tryhard. Thanks for the content.

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>>33087149
then may I suggest a Ferro Concepts slickster? add that radio to your elastic side inserts.

>>33087205
Thanks man!

>>33087195
Nah seems stupid. You're better off with pants that have a pocket for knee pads. The worst kind of knee pads are the kinds that you strap onto your leg or are the sleeve kind. That shit becomes ankle pads after moving around for a bit.

>>33087211
Think you replied to the wrong post famalam

>>33087252
I thought it might be a solution for pants with pad pockets that have that are expensive and the knee pockets aren't always placed right on pants.

The whole ankle pad thing is the thing I was trying to avoid with it.

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So I'm thinking about selling my 6SH112 and getting either a 6SH116, 6SH117, or a 6B45; what can anyone tell me about GRANIT plate standards? Will ESAPIs fit in GRANIT carriers?

Obviously none of this would replace the AVS.

>>33087326
the pants with pad pockets aren't expensive just because of pads, they have a lot more pockets in general and some more expensive materials (stretch material in the crotch and back of the waist). Something like a Crye G3 combat pant is a lot more involved to make than an ordinary BDU with knee pad pockets.

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>>33087432
Yeah a medium GRANIT (size 2) will fit in an ESAPI carrier so an ESAPI should fit inside a GRANIT carrier. Not sure about other sizes

Also;
Send me my fucking beretta mags or ill dispatch russian hitsquads from DPR to get you

>>33087326
You fix the knee pads not being right be adjusting your belt height, if that doesn't fix it then you bought the wrong sized pants. If you want to go ultra poor fag just sew your own pockets. The garter solution is like the worst of all worlds.

If you want to see guys in lots of straps that is on you but it's pointless otherwise

>>33087432
lolol that patch, I want

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GT, we need some bushcraft videos. Picture unrelated but true.

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>>33087473
*blocks your path*

>>33087469
Sounds good. Also, gib money for shipping and I'll get them shipped out ASAP

>>33087473
I'll see if any of the other tripfags have extras. They're an ~exclusive~ patch that's like two years old by now.

>>33087432
where to get patch I haven't been able to find it on any of my normal patch sites

>>33087578
>Sounds good. Also, gib money for shipping and I'll get them shipped out ASAP
Will you accept payment in st georges ribbons?

>>33086203
Now after researching the hellcat mod to ALICE after seeing it first mentioned, I realized my bastard ALICE clips on MOLLE pouches is, in fact, not the best solution to adding sustainment pouches to the ruck.

>tfw I will have to spend hundreds on uber looking for a surplus store selling the parts for a hellcat, arguably more than just buying a Hill People Gear bag.

>>33087616
Of course!

>>33080705
Please explain to me how that shit doesn't flail around when you run, get snagged on brush, and get heavy as fuck when it inevitably gets wet?

Also an Anon above brought up a great point, how do you access your weapon quickly if your hands are crammed down in this thing?
So if I'm understanding you right then you're saying have not only a glove liner and outer shell glove, but this handwarmer as well. Exactly how many pieces of gear do you need to keep your little booger hooks from freezing?

Literally the only benefit of this is if you're doing something like hunting (its intended purpose, who'd have thunk) that involves standing still for hours in the cold. But then again with all the other shit on you're making it seem like you intend to be "patrolling".

>>33087851
WHy are you so triggered he has hand warmers lol this is a gear queer thread

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Do any of you use ranger bands or similar to secure your sling for storage/transportation?

>>33087668
Just go on ebay get molle ii shoulder straps & kidney pads as well as an mss bag you can also get a DEI 1606 if you want a better frame

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>>33087961
Word, Ill most likely do that.

Thanks f a m a l a m

Also I got issued this at my last unit but havent been able to find it again on LBT's website. Anyone know what the designation for this is and the price?

>>33088027
looks like an LBT 2586b

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>>33088170
Dope I found it. Im surprised they are as expensive as they are. Maybe its just the usual LBT gucci pricing.

Anyways, got my shit ready for the weekend. Cant wait to eat fish and get sodomized by skinwalkers.

>>33088218
yeah lbt pricing is whack
you used to be able to find these for much less on ebay but they seem to have dried up

Eagle ind makes a similar rig and so does first spear

>>33088218
>>33088264
Basically they price their shit stupid high because people who do no research will buy it at that price rather than wait for one of their monthly sales.

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>>33087851
it has a strap to help cinch it down, I assume itll snag like any gear considering its brush, and like other things it gets heavier when wet who'd a thought.

are you really one of those fags that thinks you cant pull your hand out of a pocket quickly? hell I'll go under a timer next range trip since you seem to think I'd pull my hands out, put my gloves on then shoot for some reason.
and of course the whole idea is when you're static why wouldnt I use it when hunting? because its multicam? I fail to see why wearing camo hunting is a bad idea.

>>33088264
lbt realized they could charge insane pricing and still make insane amount of sales.

There are only a few things they sell I'd consider buying at the regular price. One being the mag insert, the other two I've found are around the same price anyways, some of their packs, and some of their pouches.

>>33088301
This, they have so many sales literally just wait a few months for the gear you want to be in that seasons sale.

>>33088352
lbt is slipping
desu eagle is just as good if not better and they're slipping too
having relatively new production gear from both I think the industry is beginning to leave them behind, LBT because of mediocre production quality and dated designs, and Eagle simply because of mismanagement from ATK.

>>33088352
>>33088301
>>33088264
Ive only ever purchased things while on sale, they tend to put on sale things that I want. The 6094 is top notch and their 3 day pack is really good when the sales make them dip sub $100.

Not to mention the two $300 low pro chest rigs I tactically acquired from my last unit.

>>33088368
LBT hasn't put out anything new that's for sure.
The 6094 is still the PC by which most non-slim PC's are judged because it's built so well. The quality of stitching hasn't really dropped either if anything I've noticed it's gotten better.

I haven't touched a lot of Eagle's stuff so I don't know on that one. LBT definitely needs to step up there game a bit. You can tell the lowvis plate carrier they put out didn't really add anything new and is just there to put the foot in the door on slim PC's.