Trigger me /k/

>>33021760

What gets me is that even if the 2nd amendment WAS only about muskets, everything else in that image is flat out false.

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>>33021760
ok

>>33021760
>90 seconds to load

nigger what, a well trained soldier could get off 3-4 aimed shots a minute with a musket

>>33021760
Thank you for that. Reduced my reenactor friend to wordless rage.

>>33021889
Got me.

>>33021760

god I hate this "argument"

1st amendment only applies to contemporarymediums of speech
4th amendment does not apply to tech devices
etc etc.

and none of these rghts applied to black men

>>33022125
We know that and we also know that "notoriously inaccurate" can only be written by someone who has never seen, rather shot, a longrifle

>>33021760
"usually survivable at close range"
I fucking hate that in particular. Musket balls are so much more destructive to the human body than modern day ammo. Combined with the horrid medical practices of the day and the mortality rate for gunshot wounds was many times higher than today.

>>33022259
yea that triggered me a lot whem it happened, still mad

>>33022259
>>33022285

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6228342.stm :^)

>>33022179

are you saying you can't see how the constitution guarantees gay marriage and universal healthcare but you can see how it guarantees your "right" to own fully automaic assault weapons with 100 round banana drums? are you kidding me?

>>33021760
>usually survivable at close range
Oh let's see you shrug off a 54 calibre lead ball blowing a tennis ball sized hole in you.

>>33021760
>When the founding fathers wrote "Freedom of Religion"
>The "Religions" were sects of Christianity.

>>33022280
now I need to see footage of musket vs person

>>33022296
The constitution says nothing about gay marriage or healthcare.

>>33022360

Who is this 3.14 QT semen demon?

MOAR?!?!?

>>33022367

>"Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

yeah pretty hard to have life if you, you know, can't afford healthcare and it's pretty damn fucking hard to pursue happiness if you can't marry the person you love because people think their fucking magic skydaddy will be mad about it

placing assault weapons over people is unamerican. that is not who we are.

>>33022360
Did she show us her penis yet?

>>33022311
>traditional musket balls are about .68 inches in diameter
so about 17mm in diameter to put that in context of current rounds
but more to the point, medical treatment was shit back then, you were more likely to die from the infection

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>>33021760
but all that is true tho...

if facts about guns make you mad then this will piss you off

>>33022400
I know you're trolling, but it's late, most of us have to get up early to work for the weekend tomorrow. Don't encourage the autist.

>>33022400
>record corrected
Go back to baiting /pol/

>>33022400
"Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" is in the Declaration of Independance, AKA NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT.

Marriage shouldn't be under the jurisdiction of the state anyway.

>>33021958
I like to being up that even if it was about muskets that means it was about the rifles that were better then the rifles any armys had as standard.

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>>33022412
oh believe me, i know getting hit with one would be a bad time
I just really wanna see it.

>>33022414
>pic related

>>33021889
>Liberals think AR-15's shoot punt gun slugs. Better carry a 45mm pistol as a side arm.

>>33022434
>doesnt try to prove me wrong
>just meme
>this will show him

>>33022414
isnt that one of the guns DK or EH had when they shot up columbine?

>>33022453
yes
its the number one choice for mass shooters
im not a sjw by any means but this is what people refer to when they say assault weapons
basically guns that are only in interest of those who want to murder kids

>>33022414
>democracy for america
>trying to take away our freedoms

What is this doublespeak?

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>>33022400
>pic related
>>33022434
I kinda do too now that you mention it

>>33022441
... but why couldn't they?
Imagine.

>>33021760
>Trigger me /k/

The antis are probably gonna take back DC next election cycle.

>>33022108
What am I looking at here? The One Ring?

>>33022495
>implying the United States will still exist

>>33022463
>number one choice for mass shooters
top lel mate, tec9s were used in two shootings ever. neck yourself.

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>>33022501
Fallen German soldier preserved by mud on the eastern front. That's his wedding ring.

>>33022465
how do you equate putting restrictions on ONLY THE MOST DANGEROUS WEAPONS to taking away your freedoms?

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>>33022453
Yup, TEC-DC9 more commonly reffered to as just the TEC-9. Side arm of the infamous Dylan Klebold, he fired it off a grand total of 55 times and killed 5 people, and it's the weapon he chose to end his life with.

>>33022519
No. You're wrong.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_weapon_2009-2013.xls

2013 had 285 murders by any kind of rifle. Compare to 5782 deaths by handgun. There is no way to argue that banning so-called "assault rifles" will meaningfully affect gun deaths.

>>33021760
Didn't those Muskets rip a hole in you the size of a baseball?

>>33022138
Does every gun youtuber have a deformed family member?

>>33022518
This doesnt trigger me. It makes me smile.

>>33022544
the tech n9ne is a pistol you fucking retard

>>33022280
Yes, we all know that.

>>33022589
You're a sick fuck.

>>33022465
>trying to take away our freedoms
That's what democracy means. The many get to take away the freedoms the few care about.

>>33022613
Good thing we're not a democracy.

>>33022604
For you.

>>33022591
>included in awb
>posted image defined assault weapon as anything with a mag outside the grip
>most political rhetoric focuses on rifles

>>33022642
okay youre just all over the place now
sorry
not sorry
but I'm done

>>33021760
Weren't muskets firing fuckhuge heavy ball?

I'd say that it would do a lot of damage.

>>33022387
Isn't that wirty or sa/k/uya? wirty is so flamingly gay it's awesome.

>>33022453
Yes but it was later version modified to make it harder to convert to full auto.

>>33022664
That's the girl tripfag that got pregnant by that boy tripfag.

>>33022518

looks like that german didn't have a good trigger finger

>>33022113
>Kalashnikov pointing one of his rifles at Feinstein
If only.

Every single type of field artillery was also legal.

>>33022604
No, just vengeful.
I had family members killed by those soldiers. I'm from Warsaw.
>“Our mascot was a crippled boy. Also 12 years old. He lost one leg, but could jump very fast on the other one. He was very proud of that. He always jumped around the soldiers, back and forth. We said it was for luck. He helped a little. One day the SS-men called him. He jumped to them willingly. They were laughing and asked him to jump to the trees. From far I saw that they put 2 grenades into his bag. He didn't notice. He was jumping and they laughed at him shouting: Schneller, schneller! (faster, faster). The boy blew up."

>“We blew up the doors, I think of a school. Children were standing in the hall and on the stairs. Lots of children. All with their small hands up. We looked at them for a few moments until Dirlewanger ran in. He ordered to kill them all. They shot them and then they were walking over their bodies and breaking their little heads with butt ends. Blood streamed down the stairs. There is a memorial plaque in that place stating that 350 children were killed. I think there were many more, maybe 500."

http://www.warsawuprising.com/witness/schenk.htm

>>33021760
There was also nothing against owning a cannon that could destroy your neighbors house, a school, or an entire building from very far away. You could also own a warship which could fuck up a lot of shit.

The citizens and state were on much more equal terms back then. Maybe more stuff than guns needs to be legal nowadays.

>>33022740
i pity you

>>33022740

Shouldn't have rebelled.

>>33022787
Don't pity me. Pity the children and women sadistically murdered by this vile and blood thirsty nation.

>>33022797
>Shouldn't have rebelled.
We are Polish. We always rebel against tyranny.

>>33022815
>We are Polish. We always rebel against tyranny.
What happened 1950-1990 then?

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>>33021810
>being triggered by facts

>>33021810

This is honestly the best leftist cartoon I've seen post-current year

>>33022815
Polack thinks he's not worthless.

>>33022311
It'd be in the same neighborhood as a 20ga shotgun slug.

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>>33021760

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>>33022360
Christ fuck mugichan pisses me off. She knows so much about guns but can barley fucking hold one let alone shoot one.

>>33021810
Found the unemployed (non employable?) graphic "artist".

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>>33022904

>She

>>33022904
das a man, baby

>>33022547
Actually no, what they did was ether behave like a bullet and go though or the ball would enter and then ricochet if contacted to a hard surface internally with or without an exit hole.

>>33022576
lead from shooting accumulates in your sperm and passes onto your children

>>33021889
>.45 ACP

>>33022921
>>33022923
Get your fucking bigoted as out of here, she's (male) gorgeous.

>>33022400
This could be inteligent, but (You) decided to make it a bait.

>>33022411
Apparently Mugichan is a biological female and a lesbian. So she would find your existence offensive twice and is capable of shooting you in assorted calibers.

On your knees. The bullet will go from back to front.

>>33021760
Glocks are good
Nuggets are shit
Traps are gay

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>>33022973

>ass

>>33022400
>placing assault weapons over people is unamerican
Lol, then why try to ban them? If the dems stopped pursuing gun control then maybe more people would vote for them

>>33022113
nignog only one with actual trigger discipline??

Mikhail gets a pass for obvious reasons

>>33022161
She kinda looks like my aunt.

>>33023011
(((she))) is female, I've talked to her before. That being said she is cancer and should not escape the rope. Anyone that likes her or has pictures of her needs the same.

>>33023061
I think your aunt is secretly a bonus uncle

>>33022280
Only by virtue of sheer caliber, a .62 ball ripping though your gut is tough but I would rather take that than a high velocity fragmenting round.

>>33022161
>chink FAMAS
What country is this?

>>33023095
>Canadian flag on wall
>What country is this?
Gee I dunno...

>>33022518
I guess it was technically eastern front but it was from the battle of seelow heights.

>>33023106
Didn't notice it, it's bright as fuck.

>>33023095
Canada
they're readily available there in .223

>>33022296

I know you're trolling, but fuck it.

No, that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that each amendment must evolve with the times, whether it be social or technological change, otherwise the entire document becomes obsolete.

If we can (and should) accept that our rights evolved to include blacks and women, to include new interpretations of the law, then we must accept that the 2nd Amendment applies to modern technology and modrn society as well.

also obligatory
>Those who would trade liberty for safety deserve neither

>>33022740
Whatever you say, edgelord the hedgehog

>>33022296

A right is defined as having the ability by your own means to procure something or take action under the shelter of the law. It does not mean free handouts.

It's the right to life, liberty, and the PURSUIT OF happiness. Not the right to life, liberty, and happiness.

>>33023084
A musket ball is soft lead its going to deform.

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>>33022826
>What happened 1950-1990 then?
You mean 1944-1990?
A lot. It's a little harder to organise when 80% of the leading class has been exterminated, but we rebuilt.

1944-46
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-communist_resistance_in_Poland_%281944%E2%80%9346%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Armed_Forces

1956
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pozna%C5%84_1956_protests

1968
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Polish_political_crisis

1970
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970_Polish_protests

1976
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_1976_protests

1980
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_%28Polish_trade_union%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_Solidarity

1981–1983
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_law_in_Poland

1988
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Polish_strikes


Ok, enough /pol/ before /k/lansmen lynch us.
Have a nice day.

>>33022216
Roughly how many MOA is a longrifle accurate to?

And what's the effective range? Around 200 yards?

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>>33022855
I don't need your worthless opinion to validate my worth.

>>33023232
300 yards

>>33023156
So what you're saying is the constitution guarantees the right to hold a firearm but not to own one, shoot one, buy one or make one

SHALL

>>33023261
I'm sorry but you need to reread the 2nd amendment and the supreme court cases regarding it.

>>33021760
the odds of you surviving a .58 cal musket ball back then were probably worse than 100 to 1

>>33023301
try .60-.75 cal

>>33021760
the constitution was written and signed in an era where multishot weapons were known

>>33023308
.75 cal is what? 15mm? Sounds like a volleyball sized wound to me

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>>33021889
I had to explain this to my aunt. I showed her a picture of the mosin and AR, then a separate picture of the rounds they use. Surprise surprise she thought the AR used the nugget round and was quickly corrected. Fun day

>>33023326
19.05mm

>>33022899

Please, no. Why do you do this me?

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>>33022787
>>33022797
>>33023149
>>33022855

RAF did nothing wrong

>>33023152
>thumb over bore

heresy. purge the unclean.

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>>33022815
>mfw we're finally sending more troops to Poland
>mfw joint training exercises
>mfw expanding our basing rights and presence in Poland
>MFW WE'RE GETTING TIGHT WITH THE ABSOLUTELY MAD MOTHERFUCKERS WHO LITERALLY TORE WARSAW DOWN SO THEY COULD THROW THE FUCKING BRICKS AT THE FUCKING NAZIS WHILE LYING SOVIET CUNTS STOOD WATCHING FROM ACROSS THE RIVER

God, I wish Russia would start shit. God I wish a nigga fucking WOULD. I want to watch as angry Poles jump down Russians throats and explode out their fucking assholes still chewing their fucking intestines. I want to watch sixty YEARS of pent-up hatered and rage unleashed on those slav motherfuckers in an orgy of violence that will make Hiroshima look like a mother-fucking ice cream social.

AND I WANT AMERICA TO GET A PIECE OF IT

>>33023619
cringed irl

>>33023645

They're still airing reruns of Bewitched if that's your thing dawg I won't judge

>>33022259
didn't use strong enough language

>>33023647
It was a bit on the nose.

>>33023657

I was going to be more artistic and subtle, you know, "read it on multiple levels" and work in an allegory about the four seasons but WE'RE ON FUCKING 4CHAN

so, you know

i didn't

>>33022806
they're dead. the dead don't need pity, just remembrance.

>>33023664
Oh, I get it. When you use the all caps, I should read that in the shouty voice, yes?

>>33023678

More like a low, but intense tone, like Liam Neelson threatening someone. There's a few others to know, like:

*this* means "vehement," _this_ means "I post on tumblr and should be shot" and ~this~ means French accent. But no honhonhons added, you have to add the honhons manually, they're not implied.

>>33021760
When the founders wrote that, a saw was the most common surgical tool.

I promise to shoot op with my flintlock if he promises to subject himself to 18th century medicine!

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>>33023672

>>33022113
Is it poor discipline or Russian discipline?
I'm certain that Russians don't do Western TD, but instead put their finger behind the trigger.
I can't tell from that which one it is.

>>33021760
>no analyzing the purpose of a law by context, intent and language

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>>33021760
And yet today as back then, I can own 18th century artillery.

So clearly until I'm allowed to own a 155mm gun my rights are being infringed.

>>33023682
>you have to add the honhons manually, they're not implied.
kek

>>33021760

Clips and magazines are the same thing

>>33023271
And the Supreme Court has made gay marriage a right to all people. If you want to through in court rulings and precedent then I am happy to say we have a strong right to own and use firearms and just as strong of a right to marry who ever we want.

NOT BE

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>>33022740
Only good nazi is a dead one.

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>>33023749

WHITE

POWER

WORLD

WIDE

>>33023742
Ok and I care if my brother ex wants a wife because?

>>33022624
yes you are you idiot
>inb4 we're a republic
That just means that your head of state isn't a monarch or a dictator

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>>33021760
>usually survivable at close range

Whoever made that needs to be shot in the face with a Brown Bess

>>33022138
is that dude's face photoshopped or is that real?

>>33021760
90 seconds huh ? , funny how a decent rifleman can do three shots in a minute.

Even so , the 2nd Amendment names ARMS not MUSKETS.

Yes , I took the bait.

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>>33022740
>From far I saw that they put 2 grenades into his bag. He didn't notice. He was jumping and they laughed at him shouting: Schneller, schneller! (faster, faster). The boy blew up."

I was truly born in the wrong time

>>33023439
> Versailles was worse
I legit keked irl

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>ninety seconds to load (with practice)
False.
>notoriously inaccurate
Not so much below 70 meters. Rifled bores did exist, too.
>usually survivable at close range
What even the fuck ?

>>33022414
So by this definition a MAC-10/MAC-11 is not an assault weapon , since no barrel shroud and magazine loads inside of the pistol grip.

Got it.

>>33023868
>153mm
Holy fuck

>>33023301
Mosin-Nagant , can do horrific damage to a human being loaded with 135 grain explosive hollow points , legal in every state in the US and pretty much every where else hunting is legal with a bolt action in the world.

BAN PISTOLS AND SEMI-AUTOMATIC RIFLES!

>>33022899
Sorry, i don't get it - what's the problem here?

>>33022519
The sole purpose of 2nd amendment is ability for the people to seize power from corrupt government. To that end, weapons accessible to the people, after forming an organized militia, must be sufficient for overcoming the government's protection by force.

This is the sole benchmark by which all "weapon bans" ought to be judged.

As a curious, considering low-caliber pistols, plinking rifles and the likes would be completely useless in the endeavor, by the spirit of the law they can be banned. OTOH if the president can hunker down in a bunker below the White House, people should have an unlimited access to Bunker Busters.

>>33023920
*Also when morons bring up "BUT WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH A RIFLE AGAINST A DRONE!?" - "The same thing that the enemies in Iraq and Afghanistan have been doing for over a decade ..YEEAARRRGHHHHHH!!!!"

>>33023926
We can line these fuck up right next to the Nazis.

America for Americans. No euro ideologies allowed.

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>>33023935
Totally discounting the Dutch,Germans,British & French who built the American Colonies.

Wow , that is a short memory or total ignorance of history , inb4 blacks didn't sell themselves into slavery and transport to new world and design towns & roads and plot farms themselves.

>>33023934
>The same thing that the enemies in Iraq and Afghanistan have been doing for over a decade
Getting blown the fuck up by them? Because that's the only real thing they've been doing.

>>33023942
*They are still there & they are still fighting , last I checked drones still fly over Iraq and ISIS is still there.

Don't forget Afghan'

>>33023949
No, air strikes are what's predominantly being used against ISIS. Drone strikes are mainly used in Afghan/Pakistan border and Yemen.

>>33023941
The founders gleaned ideas from plenty of sources including the native Americans.

But the US was the first constitutional democracy of its kind.

As for slavery. Your spot on. Africans did sell other Africans. Just like they've been doing for a millienia.
Just like they do today. And by Africans I'm including the Berber/Arab varieties.

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>>33023252
Wrong

>>33023232
An experienced shooter reaches up to maybe 250 yards while being able to hit center mass sized targets.

Today's longrifles can achieve 2-1.5 MOA, but you gotta keep in mind that those are made with modern techniques, steady powder mixtures etc, etc.

An early 1700s longrifle was more like a 3-2 MOA weapon. Which is not much by todays standards but was "Cheytac M200 tier" for the 18th century.

You have to keep in mind that smoothbore muskets back then were not loaded like today (with cloth patches to fit the gaps between projectile and barrel) but just were more or less "thrown" into the muzzle and rolled down without the help of a rod.

So when you fired, the projectile bounced along the barrel like a pinball and how that affected accuracy....well you can imagine.


So what I mean with all that stuff: Dont judge those longrifle's accuracy by today's standards but keep in mind how crude everything was back then, starting from the metalurgy, the powder, the gunsmith's skills, the quality of rifling and the quality of the projectile.

>>33023619
loled

>>33023619
Not sure about bricks, but as a Pole I've gotta thank the Czech.

They were manufacturing bombs for Nazis (forced labor), as they were carpet-bombing Warsaw. And they sabotaged the bombs so much that about 1 in 3 was a dud. Which then Poles would strip and remake into grenades for use against Germans.

Yeah, guns were hard to come by, but Poles lobbed grenades at Germans by a dozen. Grenades from explosives air-dropped to the polish rebels positions by Germans, courtesy of the Czech.

>>33023715
or a man of war gun ship

>>33022138
Fucking kek, what's the title of that video?

>>33022463

By your own definition no guns fit that criteria.

If you're going to b8 at least be intelligent about it

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>suspect is attacking a cop/random person
>straddling on top of the cop/random person, pummeling their head in
>gets shot and killed
>"but he wasn't armed!"

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>>33021760
/thread

>>33021760
>This was the "arms" they were referring to.
!?!?!

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Is this the /k/ringe thread?

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>>33024233

>>33021889
Most assault rifles aren't even powerful enough to hunt deer.

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>>33024237

>>33022740
>Making up stories while rubbing his hands
You dumb poles brought this on your self afterall

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>>33024247

>>33024237
>only partially weapons trained
Gets me every time.

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>>33024262

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Trigger or ylyl?

>>33022465
>DEMOCRACY
>aka mob rule

I think you do not understand that communism is a form of democracy

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>>33024270

>>33023835
A Constitutional Republic uses Democracy, but it is not -a- Democracy. Slight difference.

>>33024251
8/10

>>33022826
>Being this ignorant

I can smell burger fat through my monitor

>>33022518
>Eastern Front
Lies, the commies would have taken the ring, not only his flesh

>>33024253
This shit still makes me mad. The dude probably spent his whole life building that collection only to have it destroyed because "muh scary guns!"
>Helmets and other war time collectables become more violent over time
>Especially if in the presence of firearms, other collectables can inherit attributes of firearms
> ie; if you leave a helmet around a machine gun it may become a machine helmet gun
>It's better to take no chances and destroy everything.
It's like they really think like this.

>>33024330
>implying Poles weren't obedient little apparatchiks for their Soviet masters
Go play with your bathtub carp.

>>33023439
Got the Japanese and American ver?

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>>33022899
YOU SON OF A BITCH!
For those who want to cry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u4YBwjQTds&feature=related

>>33022259
POGs gonna POG.

>>33023803
>nazis get their own slogans wrong
This is your brain on fascism.

>>33024367
National Socialism =/= Fascism

Read a book before using BuzzWords, you are staring to look like a liberal sociology student

>>33022259
>This is what happens when you wear white socks.

>>33024360
Reminds me of something my history teacher would show us in class when she felt like drinking a bottle of scotch behind her desk for the day.

Good times.

>>33021760
ninety seconds to load with practice?
I have no training with these muskets but I can almost guarantee you that I can fire a shot within 30 seconds if I get to use paper cartridges

also more like 14-20 seconds per shot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJMbxZ1k9NQ

>>33024389

>implying national socialism isn't a buzzword

>>33024214
Fucking airshit.

>>>/toy/

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>>33024389
In what way is Nazism not fascist? Look at the Nazi party itself:
>encouraged military citizenship
>pursuit of autarky
>nationalistic
>believed in a strong, single leader
Although Fascism != Nazism, Nazism is definitely fascist in nature.

>>33024444
Checked.

>>33024444
...although that third shot... he nearly fell over. if he wanted to actually hit something, it would have taken him a little longer...

>>33024444
h-he's fast

>>33024486
True, but hang-fires will happen with a flintlock.
I heard they actually rarely aimed their muskets in line battle due to the inaccuracy
(they would also fire at 100-200 meters which was far out of their maximum range)
Also due to the smoke depending on the wind it was impossible to see the enemy after the line had fired 5 - 6 shots

>>33023907
Emergency landed B-29 of WWII vintage up in Greenland, after two or three years of trying to get it flyable so it could be preserved it caught fire and burned on the ground.

>>33024467
They are related, but one goes full autistic on race, the other on the state

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>>33021760
>>33021810

>>33024233
Hey I remember when I posted that pic on here ages ago. Fucking got me. Thanks.

>>33022400
What if I want to fuck trannies and tote guns? This ain't /pol/ fuck off. I'd gladly accept trannies, furfags and whatever the fuck comes along in the future, as long as we can arm preschoolers with surplus Davy Crockett launchers

>>33024523
Well a lot of it had to do with engagements too. Most battles broke down to the Long, Mid, Short, Charge tactic and did not end up with two sides just standing around playing red rover with musket balls.

While the Long range volley (100-150 meters) would be largely ineffectual, it would still pose a chance of lessening the returning fire. Mid Range (50-75 meters) was more effective and saw a lot more casualties. Then depending on the attacking units morale/cohesion close to short range (10-25 meters) to fire their final volley before the charge into enemy lines or breaking and retreating to hopefully reform.

The Swedish Carolean Army was a "Shock Army" at the time as they would forgo the long and mid range volley and double quick march directly to short range of 15-20 meters. They mostly relied on the delay of the Defender's reloading to quickly close the gap and give them a better position. The initial Swedish Volley would be from 15-20 meters and decimate the defenders, at this time a secondary rank that hadn't fired yet would charge to within 1-2 meters, fire their volley and a Mass charge ensued.

>>33022740
>SS = German Army
>all the failed military coups
>being fodder for the SS Nazis and fighting commies
>hating them

Kill yourself

>>33024337
probably was buried too deep for Ivan to see it

>>33023439
>It is another east pole is triggered episode

psssh the camps were polish

>>33023742
INFRINGED

>>33023692
>here lie 5 brave polish soldiers

looks like the germans have more respect than the poles today.

>>33022830
Just because Trump is a fat idiot doesn't mean that autocratic bimbo should be President. It should have been either Rand or Jim Webb

>>33023749
>all germans were nazis

>>33024554
not anymore, now that he downgraded to the white house

>>33021889
>10mm

>>33024342
I'm pretty sure the journalists fluked up some details to get more attention. They only blew up the explosives.

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>>33021760
>6-10 seconds to load, aim and fire.
>Accurate to 100yds on a man sized target
>Private ownership of cannons and warships
By the Civil War you had fully automatic belt fed cartridge machine guns, telegraphs, cameras and lighter than air balloons used for scouting and battlefield observation.

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>>33024360
goddamnit anon

>>33023941
The first immigrants to the now US were Puritans trying to escape an oppressive government (although they were backwards cunts). This ideology of "America is the land of free men who reject the traditions of Europe and only keep those aspects of their heritage and culture that are compatible with the spirit of freedom and democracy" is what makes those immigrants Americans. Anyone can be an American because America is a set of ideals that anyone can chose to live their life by. Go fuck yourself pinko scum.

>usually survivable even at close range

Weren't some of those muskets like, .75 caliber?

And didn't most people shot with them end up like...dying excruciating deaths from infections and such?

>>33021760

>thE guns they were talking about were muskets!
>but watching porn on the Internet is the type of free speech the founders were talking about

Fucking normies

>>33021889

Got me and got me hard


FUCK HAVE THEY NOT SEEN A 5.56 COMPARED TO A .30-06

>>33021760
>usually survivable

Why do people think because weapons are old they're somehow less lethal?

>>33024924
That whole pic is a load of shit, muskets took 20 seconds to reload, could hit a man at 100 yards but could be fired even farther with volley fire and those large caliber lead balls were more lethal than modern rounds. And yes, even if you did survive the shot, you would have your limbs cut off/bleed out/die of infection anyway

>>33024208

>that pic
Is that an sp-1?

But yeah if some red guard is beating the fuck out of you, they're still unarmed
>but the cops shot him becuz he wuz blak he din du nuffin

>>33024279
>fergurson

>>33022400
How is it hard to have life without healthcare? Have you forgotten the last 10,000 years of human history?

>>33022400
Governance or management of healthcare and marriage are not powers explicitly given to the Federal government, and there for are rights for each individual State to govern. As neither require interstate transportation to function, the interstate commerce clause can also be disregarded.

tl;dr healthcare and marriage are state rights, not federal

get rekt fail troll

>>33024610
>would charge to within 1-2 meters
Holy shit, that's the most terrifying/awesome thing I've heard today. Imagine getting shot with a musket from 1 meter

>>33025125
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind seeing the government completely out of marriage, but it can be an interstate issue.
>get married in state A because state B wouldn't let you
>move to state B
>get a state job with benefits for spouses, file state taxes jointly

>>33023704
Ik a Russian who curls his finger and puts the fingernail against the side of the gun and he claims it was common in Russia.

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>>33023570
tob + smart car

>>33021889

that is kinda funny desu

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>>33022400

I was tempted to actually write out a response to this. But I'm not going to cast pearls before you, swine.

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>>33024251
>>33024643

I wonder who this could be?

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>>33022740
Thanks for sharing, anon. Wehraboos need to be reminded that just because Nazis aren't the worst thing in the world, doesn't make them sympathetic.

>>33023180
It wont yaw or fragment like a modern intermediate caliber. Read some of the early reports about the AR 15 in nam, or some of the testing they've done on pigs. We've found better ways of blowing meat off people than a musket ball.

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>>33024253
>both world wars
im so fucking triggered please sign me up for the right wing death squads ASAP

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>>33021760
Nope, not even remotely true.

>>33022441
45mm glock and wesson?

>>33022921
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j45lrsHFLTE

>>33023040
this is cute, not triggering

>>33022113
Bond was engaged with a hostile target there, so that one is actually ok.

>>33023870
Same with full auto ars and aks, not assault weapons by this

>>33022740
gas yourself

>>33022108
>>33022518
F

>>33022125
>18mm musket ball is usually survivable
wew

>>33022108
god i still remember this thread
everyone shared a collective F when we saw the wedding band

>>33022604
> having feelings for nazis

I bet you cry at the end of Wolfenstein 3D when you have to kill your best bud and greatest pal, mecha-Hitler.

>>33022113
This isnt triggering, it's just lame.
Half of this pictures are instances where they're actually shooting or about to
It's like saying " evil cars wasting ecosystem by idling" because they're stuck at an intersection

>>33023072
>>33023061
Kekd

>>33022899
Auuuggghhhhhhhhh

>>33024241
Nonsense
Like the top 3 rounds used for assault rifles (5.56, 5.45, 7.62x39) are more than enough to knock down deer in the united states. If 5.56 can drop a 180lbs man then it sure as shit can drop a 120 pound doe or even a 180lbs buck for that matter. If you fudge the shot or chose a shitty bullet for the job don't blame the cartridge.

>>33025671
Better example would be the Girardoni air rifle. Adopted by a major army before the 2nd amendment and had similar capabilities in terms of power and capacity to a full sized service pistol. Hell even Lewis and Clark had one about 20 years after the 2nd

>>33022280
they also had a habit of dragging bone out of the exit wound with them

>>33022400
Healthcare is not required to live, if you didn't take responsibility to get Healthcare before you were sick or injured it's your fault.

>>33021790
I lol'd and saved.

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>>33023935
>communism
>european
triggered

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>>33024357

Have the nip version. Still looking for an American one.

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>>33023935
>Jews
>European

>>33023028
>Traps are gay
Yes but futas aren't

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>>33022740

Ok, we can do this.
If the second amendment is limited to muzzle loading smoothbores, the first will be limited to word of mouth and hand written letters.

>>33027351
The rite to travel should be limited to foot horse and sailing ship.

>>33024905
No bt fed machine guns during the civil war. The Gatling was hopper or gravity magazine fed.

You have to wait till 1890's for a belt fed.

>>33025671
That's not a fucking machine gun, it's a revolver, and it's far from the first gun like this. Similar guns existed in the fucking 16th century. Thanks for contributing to the thread, I'm triggered.

>>33024271
both

>>33027081
What's wrong? You literally posted a picture of the Communist Manifesto.

>>33027241
What's wrong? x2

>>33022921
It's a feature.

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>>33027438
what is implied is that the chosen merchants from the semitic group is not europeans.

>>33021760
As a point of fact, modern guns are also usually survivable even at close range. I think the statistics on survivability of a single gunshot wound from a modern gun is something like 80%. Obviously, the odds of survival go down the more times you get shot.

Also, pepper boxes existed back then, so fast follow up shots at close range were a thing, even then.

>>33024462
Are you actually retarded

>>33027496
Just like there are American Jews, there are European Jews. They have been living in Europe for more than a thousand years, more than twice as long as Europeans have been in America.

>>33027565
Are you actually autistic

>>33022797
If you massacre children, you're the bad guys.

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>>33024602
Jesus anon don't you know how dangerous that is? Pic related you nutcase.

>>33022699
>girl
I got some bad news for you

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>>33027675
>crew served weapons
Don't see the problem here, myself.

>>33027496
>askhenazis semitic group

sorry pal but european jews do not have semitic kinship
The only Semites that exist today are palestinians the askhenazis are descendants of the jazaros

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>>33023439
>>33027210

>>33027879
Jazaros=Khazars

G-Glocks are good guns ok guys???

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>>33027876
Well fuck, I stand corrected. I was always under the impression it was more like an RPG with a nuclear warhead.

>pic related
>hitler's wet dream

>>33023960
My argument still applies , they ask what you are going to do with an AR-15 against a military.

>>33027879
>>33027934
That's bullshit though.

>>33027416
Legal definition of a machine is a firearm that fires more than one round without letting up on the trigger. Doesn't matter how it's fed, which in this case would be by a revolving cylinder.

>>33022740
>"They were laughing and asked him to jump to the trees. From far I saw that they put 2 grenades into his bag. He didn't notice. He was jumping and they laughed at him shouting: Schneller, schneller! (faster, faster). The boy blew up."
Wanna know how I know this is bullshit?

>>33027610
That's a 20 shot rifle from the 1770s, disproving the whole "they only had muskets back then" narrative

>>33027979
it takes about 5 seconds to reload a puckle gun you autist,if you are proficient, in addition, under 100 of these were made, and none of them made it to the US.
However, I believe in gun regulation. The second amendment has nothing to do with that.

>>33023040
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NCNum4YAXSc

>>33024872
Can confirm. Only things I saw moved away from the scene were the shells in the back of that photo. Everything else was categorized and sent to a museum; probably IWM London or the royal armories in leeds.

Source: I live on the same street as him, and had conversations about how guns are only as bad as the person who holds them with the cops closing off the street.

>>33025436
Wehraboos are fascinated by the style of Nazis more than anything else. They are typically weaklings who think if there were a Nazi government that they'd matter more than the little they do now. Anyone who holds deeply to a political ideology is weakminded and tries to compensate by being part of something, be it Nazism, Communism, MLP furfaggotry, SJWism or Trumpism.

Adults don't admire ideologies or care about style. Style is fundmentally homosexual. Utilitarianism is more logical from a military POV but this is an anime forum so everyone here is a gay pedo either outright or in denial. The denialists are the most annoying.

>>33024507
For you

>>33023934
And that's not even accounting for the fact that if it got to the point drones were being used a coup d'etat is pretty much guarenteed.

>...swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;

Just about any event causing a civil war would imply the constitution had been violated by the government.

>>33025436
>>33028111
>nazi
>nazi
>nazi
>nazi

ayy yo mateys SS != Wehrmacht

>>33028111
>trips of truth
I'd gladly sacrifice the first amendment (and it's equivalent in every country) if it meant that every wehraboos/neonazis in the world, past, present and future get a one way ticket to the loony bin

>>33021760
who ever made this should be shot with a musket at close range

>>33022296
Response to bait:
Yes. No.

There are no positive rights. The constitution only makes the statement that no statement is being made about any right not mentioned, and that any right not mentioned belongs to the states and the people, and that any right not mentioned that doesn't belong to the states belongs to the people.

>Tl;dr
The people have every conceivable right until established otherwise. Congress must act within it's power inorder to establish that the people/states do not have a right.
Rights are limitations on the government.
All rights, by definition, are absolute. A right that is not absolute is no right at all.

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>>33028392
>I'd gladly sacrifice the first amendment (and it's equivalent in every country) if it meant that every wehraboos/neonazis in the world, past, present and future get a one way ticket to the loony bin

Alriiiiight

>>33028425
>Alriiiiight
From the implied sarcastic tone i can smell the fact that you missed a "t" somewhere in that word.

>>33028442
Let's kill both Left and Right

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>>33024715
If they stand for Germany, they die for Germany

>>33028453
>And as Timmy realized that he would also hang from the trees like the fanatic right ones he stayed quiet

>>33021760
Sage
/pol/ ->

>>33028475
>And the pole showed his true colors

>>33023935
Really makes me think about how artistically retarded you are.

Democracy and Capitalism all came from Europe,my special friend.

>>33028111
Or alternatively they like history and only care about the major participants in recent military history that weren't of negligible importance, arabs fighting over ascension, or motivated by a chair fetishist.

>Anyone who holds deeply to a political ideology is weakminded and tries to compensate by being part of something
You would have had a point if you said blindly instead of deeply. In the case of trump it's literally just "I don't like commie faggots. Whew, that was a close call. This is a really nice change of pace."

>Adults don't admire ideologies
t. centrist. Think for yourself faggot.


One can quite easily be fascinated with nazi germany from a historical perspective and at the same time absolutely hate nazism.

>>33028510
>Democracy
>europe
The mediterranean is distinct in the same way that no one honest considers india and russia to be asian.

>>33024905
What's all that machinery?

>>33028026
>I believe in gun regulation
Found your problem, buddy. Shut up with your nit-picking bullshit about what guns are "okay" what ones aren't, and go back to be being a bootlicking complacent liberal.

>>33022360
CUTE
U
T
E

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>>33028026
>none of them made it to the US.
invalid argument.

shall.
not.
be.

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>>33022740

>Posting propaganda this shitty

Pity they didn't wipe out your entire line you subhuman trash.

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>>33022806
>>33022815

>>33023220

Shit, you creatures need to be fucking exterminated.

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>>33023233

Get back in the gas chamber.

>>33023619

I hope you and every subhuman Pole dies a horrible death.

>>33021760
>innacurate
This meme needs to die, muskets were accurate out to at least 300 meters, and in skilled enough hands even further.
>survivable
Lmao. They blow fist sized holes in people, it's a soft wad of hot lead traveling at high velocity, it's gonna deform. Also, nigga it's the 18th century, enjoy dying of infection

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>>33028392

And here we see the Jew in it's natural state, a freedom-hating subhuman.

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>>33023749
Fuckin' A, anon. Only thing worse than a godless commie is a fucking fascist.