/Milsurp General/

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>>32793869

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>>32793869
anyone have a (legit) nugget sniper?

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>>32793869
autonugget is very nice

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cкc

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>>32793869
I have fallen for the "buy-one-milsurp-can't-stop-buying-more" hobby trap

This is art

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Not included my second Stgw 57.

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Nice FPS POV, how do you do it.

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>>32793869
I love the weekend milsurp threads.

>>32794840
either get someone to hold my phone at my head position while awkwardly leaning back, or take it myself while holding the rifle with one hand and resting the bayonet/muzzle on the wall (notice how the pics only show one hand)

>>32793869
Anyone got pics comparing the sight picture on a Mk III Enfield and on a No. 4?

>>32794830
>you will never own an stgw 57
Why cant we import them into america, anyway?

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>>32795341
I personally don't have those in my collection yet, but I'm sure you can find it through a quick online browser search

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>>32795403
Bush Sr.

There are a few in America though. They go for around $9000+.

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Just picked up the beauty on the left today, was a major coup. What'chall think it is?

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>>32793869
Pic related cost me just under tree fiddy from a pawn shop that didn't know what they were selling. It's a Steyr M95M, the Yugoslavian 7.92x57 conversion of the M95s they received after WWI. Stock's been hacked a bit but it's all original (including the commonly missing internal mag clip and commonly broken extractor) with a good bore, untouched sights, and a Garand sling (that I repaired as a short shoulder sling after it snapped because old leather) made in the 1940s.
>>32795852
Some form of Mauser?

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>>32793886
Mine is genuine, but not 100%. It's an original that was re-arsenaled, then rebuilt with a different scope or repaired with one.

Man, I really want either an M39. I just found some for a decent price advertised as "good bore" rifles but I have the chance to get a better condition one on GB if I wait 3 days. I don't know if it's worth it to risk losing the first decent one I've seen off GB in forever when cunts are bid warring way over the value for them a lot of the time on GB.

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>>32795852
>What'chall think it is?
Well it LOOKS like a Kar.98k but your smug makes me think it's something like a G.29/40 or other such lookalike.

I see a couple dots on the side of the front sight hood that might make it Israeli but they could just be reflections.

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>>32796223
Does yours have the following marks? ('У', 'П', and a 'C' [maybe two of them like mine?]) Do you know what those markings mean? (I don't think that the 'C' necessarily means Cнaйпepcкaя [sniper], because my regular nugget also has that)

Also is the original scope serial ground off or stricken out on the side reciever?

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My trash

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>>32796922
Langegewehr besten Gewehr.

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>>32796936
Those are just test proof marks. Izzys do have a "C" sniper mark like Tulas from what I'm finding, but it's obscure because it's on a weird spot and easily buffed off. Look on the high wall of your receiver just above where the scope rail sits. In some rifles it's been buffed off during refurb because of pitting.

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>>32797082
There was a threadon GB a long time ago where plenty of PU owners confirmed the mark on their rifle while finding that it wasn't on infantry rifles. Some Ex snipers still had it as well.

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I really want to die right now.

Or crawl into my shower for about 5 hours.

>>32796922
Haha nailed it, its an Israeli k98 in 7.62 nato

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>>32797104
crawl into your shower for about 5 hours instead

stay safe anon

>>32796936
Oh yeah, I forgot. It does have the original scope number stricken off. Mine didn't get extensively buffed and still has a lot of the pitting and discoloration that was on it just like those scars on the stock.

I'm pretty sure one of those proof marks was for an overpressured load. Don't remember exactly. I think one is standard, one is overpressure, and one is accuracy.

>>32797104
Show us on the rifle where Bubba touched you.

>>32797141
Looks like you got one of the nice Israelis. Who made the receiver?

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>>32797192
Oh nowhere, I'm just sick as fuck right now. I wish I had my stash of BC powder.

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>>32796967
Indeed.

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>>32797082
thank you anon(s?)! I'm going to head my friend's suggestion and sign up on a russian gun forum (loads of information about russian firearms, exponentially more than on any western board) to find out more, my russian is a bit rusty but I should be able to manage, I'll report back when/if I get a response, wish me luck

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>>32797192
BYF, bolt even matches reciever strangely enough

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>>32797250
>Mauser-brand Mauser
Nice.

>>32797270
Same to you, it seems!

Where would be the best place to look for milsurp firearms?

>>32797369
Gunbroker.

>>32797369

The trunk of a Mercedes from a slav.

>>32797480
Plenty of strong russian rifles are to be found this way

>>32796223
M39 sure are popular now good grief I missed the boat on those

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>>32797755
Yeah me too. Oh well, they're not that bad price wise yet. I'll get one before years end.

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>>32796219
By the way, anyone got any idea what this mark means? I haven't been able to find any info on it. It's a Cyrillic letter used exclusively in the Serbian alphabet but I don't know anything more than that. It's stamped into the bottom of my M95M's stock and I haven't been able to find any info on it. It's got several other marks on the bolt handle that I haven't been able to identify, will post pic shortly.

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>>32797926
It's an inspector's initial according to Bogdanovich's "Serbian and Yugoslav Mauser Rifles".

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Sup bros, Tula SKS, OC here

>>32798137
Nigga is that sum dyson fan there?

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No man I'm not a fan of anyone named Dyson I'm just chilling here with this sexy....

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...stripper

>>32798270
Loading a firearm in your house. Yer spare parts bud

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>>32798094
Alright, thanks. These are the bolt marks.

>>32798299
Not him but,
>You're fuckin 10-ply bud

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>>32793869
im thinking about piking up an sks. its like this one, minus the scope. they want 400, but i an get them to 380 and a bayonet. how bad of an idea?

>>32798352
meh ... in today's market $380 ... out the door after background check and whatever they need to do.

That would be fair.

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>>32798314
Not sure if it's an inspector's initial or a provision black powder proof. If it had a crown over the letter it would definitely be a blackpowder firing proof.

>>32798407
thanks, how reliable do you think it would be? i heard from different places that SKSes are both very reliable and very unreliable. im trying to get something that can hold up to a bit of grit.

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>>32798137
mfw that dyson fan is worth 3 of those SKSs

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>>32798443
It's got a crowned T on the bolt handle, the Yugo nitro proof mark. I suspect that bolt mark might be from its Austrian service. The 3 mark on the bolt head here was also on the handle, not sure what it means. I'm also pretty sure that stamp on the chamber is another nitro proof mark.
>serial is 29XXX though I'm not showing the full number here

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>>32798732
Here's the crowned T.

what are the most recent surplus weapons available?

>>32798810
You mean most recently used or most recent to be widely imported to the American market?

>>32796219
Nice you bought a bubbad rifle for 200$ more than you should of.

You must be proud

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>>32798732
Are you going to get some proper furniture for it? You could cut down a long M95 stock to fit, and use a handguard from an M24/47. Upper barrel band would be easy to find.

>>32799129
Maybe for a regular M95, but for an M95M that's actually comparable. The only ones on Gunbroker/Armslist are an unmolested one that's had the bolt replaced on GB with a reserve of $350, a molested one on GB with a starting bid of $500, and a heavily bubba'd one (peep sights, removed sling swivels, rubber buttpad) in shit condition (visible rust on bolt and chamber) on Armslist for $225. Educate yourself.

>>32799184
I might, the M24 suggestion is a good one considering it's an M24 barrel anyway. An M95 stock is $75 from LTC, so I might do it at some point.

>>32799096
most recently used, most stuff is ww2 era, just wondering

>>32799341
Jewbroker is notoriously inflated in price. Look at any mosin on there. Armslist... the same armslist that tries to sell tapcod sks' for twice their worth? Oh boy, that's some edumacation ya got there boyo


That gunstore got your sheckles good.

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So I'm waiting until the next gun show to then spend my christmas money on a new gun for the collection. Not sure exactly what I'm going to get, but I've been thinking another hand gun, I only have the Type 26, Type 14, and P08 Luger.

>>32799784
I'm not concerned as long as it's comparable to where I'd be selling it if I wanted to resell, which I don't. Find me one for cheaper if you can.

>>32793911
Ah, Chinese Military. Unlike other chinkshit it is a very nicely made gun. I really enjoy shooting mine.

Does anyone have any experience trying to mount a POSP or PSO on an SKS with a Kalinka mount or something like it? Really considering doing it to my rifle and I just want to know how it would perform.

>>32799982
That's a Tula m8.

>>32799749
Probably the CZ82.

>>32800062
Nah senpai, look at the symbol on the dustcover. Star with an arrow

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What do you guys think of the boots on kommandostore? Are they a good deal? Could I go innawoods with them?

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>>32800934
Wrong milsurp chief. You want the clothing thread.

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>>32800958
I didn't see one, thought I would just post here. Imma buy them anyways.

Here's my ol' Westinghouse 1915T M91, it was a piece of shit so I sold it to a friend who actually worked for the Westinghouse power company at one time. Pretty neat piece of history.

>>32801009
Fuck I need a WW1 Mosin.

Im still fucking pissed about missing out on a styer M95/30 last weekend

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>>32799982
>>32800062
>>32800648

most certainly not chinese

>>32801145
You sure b? Mine has the same dust cover and all over the reciever is gookspeak

>>32801009
>>32801137

oh shit that's nice, that's one of the very first iterations of the m91 with no handguard

>>32801100

that's nothing, like an idiot I passed up the chance to get a 100% original full length M.95 1910 steyr made steyr mannlicher that was not rechambered

>>32801172
if the dust cover has the tula star&arrow and gookspeak on the reciever, then I'm sorry to tell you that you've got a mixmaster

>>32801199
kms. Thanks b, I was wrong

>>32801185
>oh shit that's nice, that's one of the very first iterations of the m91 with no handguard
Neat, I didn't know that. I thought it was just a piece of junk as it had screws in front of the oversized barrel bands.

I do miss having a garbage rod that was already beat up, I care too much for the rest of my surplus.

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Well, here is my stuff, excuse the AK

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I'm picking up the K31 I ordered today. I'm so freaking excited I can't wait

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>>32801185
>>32801293
>oh shit that's nice, that's one of the very first iterations of the m91 with no handguard
No it's not; it's just missing the handguard. All N.E.W. and Remington-made M91s had handguards.

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Anyone own one of these? How low profile are these? Was thinking it'd fit easily in a lot of places.

Opinions on scoping an M1 Garand?

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>>32802716
>Opinions
Don't unless you're cobbling it together from parts. And even then, why?

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>>32802822
The serial number is pretty high and the two sides of the front sight are pretty bent which makes it hard to aim.
I inherited it from my great uncle a few months ago and just picked it up recently.

>>32802869
Why not just replace the front sight wings?

>tfw finally pulled the trigger on buying a short nugget, a 1944 M44

What am I in for, bros? Fireballs and moderate amounts of recoil and muzzle climb??

>>32802983
Depends how you define moderate, but that sounds about right.

>>32803113
Nice. I suppose it "kicks like a mule" to some people, but as a fit, adult male, I have yet to shoot a milsurp that actually hurts my shoulder.

I imagine it'll be comparable to my Steyr M95, and that thing is a blast to shoot.

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>>32803140
>I have yet to shoot a milsurp that actually hurts my shoulder.
That's because you're properly shouldering your rifle. It's the people who don't get the butt in tight and leave the rifle room to accelerate backwards who get bruised.

>>32797218
I wish someone would start reproducing 1895 pattern rifles

>>32798483
That duck bill 30 round magazine is the only thing that will make that rifle unreliable

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1941 burger svt

>>32803270
Miroku made a bunch of 1895s about 5 years ago.

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yum

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>>32803140
Na, it's not as stout as the M95 carbines.

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I've been a modern weapons kinda guy buying AR's, 92A1, etc.

But I wanna get an old Mil surp 30-06. Any suggestions? I'm looking at either aneed M1903, or an M1917 Enfield...

I'm open to suggestions, be nice plz, no h8

>>32803349
Hoe much? Really digging the speed holes

>>32803959
Springfields are fine. If you wanna be a hipster keep an eye out for the Norwegian 98k. They were rechambered by Norway for 30-06.

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>>32803349

>>32799923
>best gun is out of frame on the bottom of your photo

Also how is the type 26? If you buy reloading materials for it can it be fun to shoot often? Anything to look out for when purchasing one?

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>>32796948
>dat finn doe

>>32796967
jawohl

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anyone have a spare nose cap for a Kar 88 for sale?

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>>32793869
Recently got this Hakim and a K31. Have had the K11 for a while.

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>>32802563
I finally have one

>>32805328
If this is from the recent Classic firearms shipment, I was surprised how poor their "good" code rifles were.

>>32805353
yes it is from them

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>>32805617
Here's a slightly better picture

>>32805633
what does the P stamp on the tang mean?

>>32805509
looks like you got lucky. Mine was hot garbage, with a badly chewed up stock, rust on most surfaces, and a mismatched bolt.

I have no idea why they thought it was okay to sell that as "good" with hand-select. I think I'll stick to more reputable dealers in the future.

>>32805784
It means it was privately owned. If the P is stamped before the serial number, then the gun was manufactured for private sale, if the P is elsewhere, then it was military issue rifle that was taken home after someone did their conscription.

That was someone's service rifle that they took home, which is the default.

>>32802869
Just buy an M1A if you want to bubba shit around.

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Anyone bidding at RIA? Lot of good surplus in the catalog.

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muh sporterized MkIII ross rifle

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>>32807702

>>32805050
It's a 1942 Sako with wartime stock built on imperial receiver. It's got some weird pitting and bayonet grooves so I'm guessing it's seen action.

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>>32807702
That poor rifle...

>>32807745
I know it sucks, but It was cheap and shoots nice.

>>32807804
Yes, those Metric-Americans know how to put a rifle together.

>>32807824
it's already bubba'd, im thinking of mounting a vintage scope on it just to finish it off. what do you think?

>>32807956
>What do I think?
Restore it to its former glory. It'll take time and money, money you will likely never get back if you sell it, but you will be fixing a mistake of history.

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>>32807956
Isn't the barrel and front sight still intact though? You could restore it with a replacement stock, handguard, and barrel bands.

>>32807711
>>32807702
Might not be actually sportered.
Those style of sights were popular with the DCRA and Bisley crowd.

>>32807974
The barrel has been shortened.

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>>32807971
I've already gone down that road with my snider enfield. I don't really feel like going through with it again with this ross rifle.

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2016 was the first year I had the financial security to pick up a gun every now and then, here is the surp I have accumulated so far.

Really love shooting all of these, the M39 was accurate as fuck from the moment I got it really didn't have to do much to get good groups at 100 yards. The FR8 kicks like a mule but I think its really cute and handy. The SKS aint nothing special but still fun to shoot and is one of the few legal semiautos I can get here which is a plus.

>>32808301
Why in gods name would someone even bother to butcher a snider like that

>>32808376
I have no Idea. they didn't even take the stock off before cutting it. There were shallow saw marks on the barrel where the wood was cut.

>>32808301
Then how much do you want for it? I will bear the burden.

>>32808406
sorry not for sale. It shoots clover leaf groups at 50 yards with my cast boolit handloads

>>32808406
Also, I'm a Canuk, so I wouldn't be able to sell it to you anyway

>see a lee enfield for roughly 400$ on gun broker

as a rookie milsurp fag how hard would it be to take care of a lee enfield? I have shot a lee enfield but never maintained or had a gun in my apartment.

>>32808457
>A fucking leaf
I should have known.

Can someone redpill me on lee enfields a bit? A family member owns one as well as a nugget, and he says he never shot either, so I might be choosing between the two.

>>32808740
Get the Enfield

>>32808747
Any particular reason why? Assming they're both on par as far as condition is concerned.

>>32808786
The enfield is probably worth more money, has double the magazine capacity, and has a smoother bolt. The downsides are ammo cost, poor brass life if you reload, and less than stellar accuracy.

>>32808884
Well the pros you listed aren't exactly selling points for me, minus the smooth bolt throw. But what do you mean by less than stellar accuracy? Clearly it holds up better than a nugget, at least on average, right?

>>32808941

>tfw got to rent a sporterized version of the 03-A3

damn shame the rifle is fucking beautiful.

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>>32808959
Eh, it's ok. I'm not too interested in mine.

Are the Browning Hi Powers on AIM surplus any good?

>>32808951
not necessarily. The lee enfield may be more accurate than some nuggets in poor condition, but the two-piece stock and rear locking bolt of the lee enfield are not features that lend themselves to repeatability and precise shooting.

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Love this thing to death

>>32809077
That is a beauty. How's she shoot?

>>32809118
It actually don't kick too bad. Only problem is that it consistently hits about an inch to the right at 50m, and I'm not sure there's a way to zero the thing since both sights are fixed

>>32809132
They were sighted with bayonets afixed

>>32809141
Are you serious? Holy shit I need to get me a bayonet. Anyone know where to get a Berthier bayonet?

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>>32809148
Pretty sure a Lebel bayonet will fit. Also, the sights are set for 250 meters, so yeah they're gonna be a tad high at 50.

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>>32809077
Your rear band is on backwards. The sling swivel goes on the left side. Anyways, is it matching? N marked?

I really do need a Berthier rifle though. Actually, all Berthier variations.

>>32809198
Shoot good to hear because I know where to get lebel bayonets
And oh yes, quite high indeed at 50m. Unfortunately I haven't been able to get far back enough to 250m just yet.
Say, you know of anywhere to get ahold of some 8mm lebel? The Prvi Partizan brand is always out of stock

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>>32809202
Yeah I realized about the band! Got that on the right side now. Yeah, it's all matching, which is nice. And N marked as well, although I don't know what it means. I love my Berthier, but I can't seem to find much on the internet about it.

>>32809220
It comes in once, maybe twice a year. I think the next shipment is in March. It's not that common of a caliber so PPU will do a couple runs and that's it. It's definitely something you should be Reloading if you plan to shoot it a lot.

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>>32809132
>>32809198
The battle sight, like on the Lebel, are offset to the left a little bit to compensate for bullet drift so it's shooting a little on the right should be about right for at 50 meters since the battle sight is zeroed at 250m.

>>32809236
Shoot I'm going to load up on it next time it comes in!
Unfortunately I do not have the equipment or know-how to reload yet

>>32809298
You're typing on either a keyboard or a phone, so you have the minimum IQ required to reload. Lee makes a hand press and dies for the 8mm Lebel so you can start for around $100.

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>>32809235
Nice. I love 'em matching! The N mark means the chamber was opened up in the 1930s so it can safely fire M1932 nouveau cartridge. It was a cartridge designed to extend the maximum range for machine guns. It had a longer bullet that sat further in the case and in doing so the brass had to open up more. The widest part of the bullet was in the case, not outside as was in the previous Balle D.

What that means to you is that if you happen to find some French surplus 8mm Lebel, that is often found on Hotchkiss clips, you can fire it. Not that that shit will actually go off... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeziKsiaKME

The barrel was made by the civilian contractor Manufacture Parisienne d'Armes et de Mécanique Générale.

>>32809237
That explains a lot!

>>32809350
Holy crap where does one learn so much about Berthiers?

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>>32809452
Books, other collectors. If you want a good intro, C&Rsenal does a nice job.
https://youtu.be/yrKN31COHxY

>>32809452
There is a really good sticky on the French forum on gunboards. Other than that, there are books in French on it, which I've heard are really good, but only in French. I know there is someone making a book on them in English though.
>>32809525
Other than Othais has post-war modified Berthiers. Reeee. They would not have had a stacking rod on the right side, they would have a clearing rod on the left.

>>32809592
Yes, but he also has a M34 in there as well. I'm still fucking pissed I missed out on one last year.

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>>32804776
Not really, that Type 38 carbine on the bottom is a put together and has been refinished.

The Type 26 is a nice gun tho shoot. It's comically under powered, a 9mm bullet and it has recoil almost like a .22, but like I said it is fun to shoot. As for anything to look out for, pretty much it's just keep an eye out for matching numbers and finish. A lot were refinished by Japan for WWII although mine isn't, and the finish isn't as nice. Same thing goes for the grips, they were replaced in the arsenal refinishing. Only thing that you generally see that gets damaged is the side door for the internal mechanism. People try to pry it open and end up damaging it not realizing that the trigger guard is hinged and acts as a lock to the door.

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>>32809202
Everybody needs a Berthier

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>>32809787
The Early Type 26s are neat in that the serial number is internal. They often got the serial numbers stamped on the outside when they were rebuilt, which most Type 26s did as they had a hard long life.
>>32809816
Except for me. I need them all!

>>32793869
Side question, Randomly walked into local gun store today and bought a finnish M39 for 350. Looks like its in great shape But is it as rare as people say or is it just circle jerked? I just wanted a mosin to fuck around with at the range.

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>>32810032
>$350
Decent price these days.
>But is it as rare as people say or is it just circle jerked?
It's rare relative to Soviet Mosin production numbers. There were over 100,000 m/39 rifles produced, so it's the most common Finnish Mosin model encountered. They are well-made rifles.

>>32810087
I got it at a mom and pop gun shop, someone told me they were stupid rare and a collector piece and not to shoot it but i had severe doubts that they'd let it go so cheap if it was anything too special.

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>>32810150
>they were stupid rare
No, they're by far the most common Finnish-made Mosin. Shoot to your heart's content.

>>32810245
Thanks for the info

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>>32810254
Have some more: http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/RIFLES3.htm

Hey guys anyone here know much about Mausers? Found a German Mauser 98k with the markings 1943 BYF with intact Eagle markings and a couple matching parts. I don't know anything about Mausers as I had no idea I would find one around here. Whats a good resource for looking up info on them? Guy said he'd sell it for 500 and it's in pretty nice shape and has a nice stock. I just have no idea how to find out what it's worth.

Also I found an absolutely bizarre mosin and I have no idea what the fuck it is. It's got a stock like a Finnish Mosin but has all Soviet parts and markings as well as a Hex receiver and a blade front sight. It looks like someone replaced an old Dragoon's stock with a Finnish one. He said he'd take $250 for it, which is a bit high but then again it seems really weird and I have no idea what the hell it is.

Would you guys be cool with me posting a few pictures and trying to help me figure out what they are? The Mauser 98K seems pretty straightforward, I'm more confused about the Mosin. I mainly just want to research this a bit before I pulled the trigger.

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>>32810442
>Hey guys anyone here know much about Mausers? Found a German Mauser 98k with the markings 1943 BYF with intact Eagle markings and a couple matching parts. I don't know anything about Mausers as I had no idea I would find one around here. Whats a good resource for looking up info on them? Guy said he'd sell it for 500 and it's in pretty nice shape and has a nice stock. I just have no idea how to find out what it's worth.
http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?943-FAQS-new-members-start-here
"byf" is Waffenfabrik Mauser in Oberndorf. Which parts are matching? $500 is a pretty good price for any non-Russian-captured-or-otherwise-defaced Kar.98k in good condition, even if some parts don't match.

>Also I found an absolutely bizarre mosin and I have no idea what the fuck it is. It's got a stock like a Finnish Mosin but has all Soviet parts and markings as well as a Hex receiver and a blade front sight. It looks like someone replaced an old Dragoon's stock with a Finnish one. He said he'd take $250 for it, which is a bit high but then again it seems really weird and I have no idea what the hell it is.
Scroll through here http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinIDII.htm and tell us what it most resembles.

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>>32807702
muh unsporterized mkII

>>32810760
very sexy. nice to see another ross owner on /k/

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>>32808464
>oil
>rags
>rod
>patches

like $25/year. primary cost on SMLEs is food.

Dont just get one though, they get lonely and need friends to play with

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>>32810521
>>32810521
Mag plate and reciever matched from the look of it. Rest was a mishmash. The markings were damn near pristine, especially the Nazi eagle, which I thought was normally destroyed. It looks nice. If $500 is a fair price I think I'll go for it, the rifle is really solid mechanically and the stock is beautiful.

As for the mosin brace for pics. I used the mosin identifier several times and it literally has parts that match like 5 different weird mosin variants, all old or rarer types.

>>32805328
The rifle has a noticeable crack on the handguard between the barrel bands. I'm not sure how deep it is. Would it be best to leave it and keep an eye on it after shooting the rifle or try and repair it?

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>>32810960
and the mystery mosin, pic 1 of 3

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>>32811162
it's a hex mosin at the very least

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>>32811177

>>32811162
>>32811177
>>32811194
Looks like a Finn 91/30. 250 isn't a bad price for it.

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All my French guns.

>>32811226
I thought they scrubbed the Soviet markings? There isn't a single Finn mark I can find on it.

So if I can get the Mauser and the mosin for around 700-750 think that'll be a good start to a rifle collection? I really like both but we'll see how it goes.

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>>32811251
Swiss

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>>32811271
And other mil.

>>32811259
Sometimes they did, but it's likely a capture gun. The sling swivels are dead giveaways. The Finns never purchased any 91/30s to my knowledge, but the rear sight in >>32811177 is clearly a 91/30 rear sight.

Or its a regular 91/30 that someone put a Finnish stock on.

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>>32811259
would be a great start

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My dream is to eventually own all the guns in pic related

Yes I'm a huge Ameriboo

>>32811915
How many have you got at the moment?

>>32811926
Zero

I just got a AR I lego'd together and a mosin nagant I got for 300$

Im hoping with my tax return I can snag an M1 from the CMP if they ever get any more of them

>>32811372
so its either a very early Finnish rifle, a weird rebuild using a hex receiver, or a regular soviet rifle repaired with a Finn stock.

I think it honestly just adds more questions than answers.

Either way I'll do some reading on the Mauser and hopefully it'll be there when I get paid

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>>32811980
Ah well, it's a noble goal at least. I really like focused collections, but pic related is the closest I've gotten. I had to wait for the CMP to get my Garand, but it's definitely worth it.

>>32812007
Nice, my nugget is a '43 Izhevsk too, how difficult was it to order off the CMP? Did you have to go through an FFL in your state at all?

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>>32811994
oh yeah and turns out I apparently found another Finnish mosin somehow. This one has "SA" marked on the receiver but has all Russian parts and serial numbers.

Did the Russians use "SA" as a mark? Because I thought this was a Finnish army only thing. As far as I can tell it's a 1940 Tula and a fairly normal Mosin all things considered.

I honestly think it may have had its stock switched with
>>32811162 . Owner said they all came from an estate sale. It's possible the previous owner swapped parts around?

>>32812026
I live in California, so I would have had to go through an FFL, but I have a C&R license, so I managed to avoid that whole mess. The CMP can send the rifle straight to your door in most states, but YMMV.

The actual ordering process is fairly straightforward, but there are some tricky bits. First, you have to have membership in a CMP-affiliated organization. Your local shooting club or range might have this, but the easiest way is to sign up for the Garand Collectors Association. It's $25 for a year and you get a magazine every few months with incredibly specific minutiae about Garands. They can even forward your information to the CMP for you.

You have to prove "marksmanship activity" or something similar as well. I covered this with my C&R, but a CCW will work. If you've ever competed in a shooting match, proof of that counts as well. Failing all of that, there's a checklist you can print out and get a range officer to fill out to prove you're not a complete retard with a gun. I have no clue how they know the range officer is certified or whatever, so you could probably fill that out yourself.

Because they bypass the FFL system, you have to get your order form notarized, too. A lot of UPS stores have notaries, so that may be your best bet.

Really, as long as you're decent at following directions, you'll have no problems with the CMP. I sent my order in at the end of August and got my M1 in mid-September. I would suggest you have the paperwork ready to go and keep an eye on the availability on their website so you can send it in the day they get back in stock.

Sidenote - Be aware the M1 needs a specific load of .30-06 (M2 Ball is 150gr bullet at ~2700FPS) or a new gas plug if you want to shoot heavier loads, so you may want to get some of the CMP's HXP surplus while you're at it.

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>>32812099
this rifle is absolutely covered in marks too. I have no idea what they all mean but it seems to have gone through a lot of red tape.

>>32812099
Could be a Russian rifle captured by the Finns. A lot of their stuff was like that. If I recall, they rebarreled or rechambered their own rifles to be able to shoot all the x54R ammo they picked up from the Soviets.

>>32812107
If you wqere able to get it in CA, I should have no problem in Oregon.

I hope being a veteran can help me bypass the marksmanship activity, the ranges I go to is literally just the side of a mountain the state designated as a range.

I check the website every week to see if they get any M1s in, what kind of ammo do you personally buy? Or do you load your own ammo?

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Looks like your cervix will see you through.

I bought a bunch of Danish (AMA) surplus when I got the rifle which works perfectly. I have gotten into reloading recently, so I got some Prvi Partizan rounds so I can actually reuse the cases. PPU makes good brass and they have a .30-06 load specifically for the M1.

If you plan on reloading, fair warning - the M1 chucks brass like a motherfucker and makes retention a pain in the ass.

>>32812151
Meant for
>>32812125

>>32812151
Been wanting to delve into reloading, me and a friend hangout in his garage and shoot the shit while drinking beers and reloading or watching the game.

I hope the CMP gets some rifles in after I get my returns, its my dream gun really

>>32812183
It's a fantastic rifle, no doubt. After shooting the other rifles of the era (K98k, 91/30, No 4, K31) it seems fucking space age. Easy to see why Patton (and everyone else) loved it so much.

I hope you can pick one up soon. Unless the CMP can get the Korean rifles back, they're going to be running out in a year or two.

>>32812207
I hope so too

If not the CMP, what would be my best bet?

Gunbroker and Armslist seem to have some but I've always been wary about buying from people online.

>>32812219
I've gotten a couple of rifles off of Gunbroker and not had a bad experience. As long as there are a bunch of good pictures, you're probably fine. I seem to recall Gunbroker having some sort of fraud guarantee if they completely fuck you over, but I didn't have that problem with my SKS or K31. Of course, then you have to deal with transfers and shit.

Obviously, the CMP is the best way to go. I've seen Service Grade M1s go for $1500 on Gunbroker. I got mine for $730 and had complete confidence in the rifle and the CMP itself.

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>>32812099
No, that's just a Finn capture. Both probably are in fact. The Finns did capture Russian rifles during Winter War and subsequent Continuation War (WW2).

Going to buy an Ishapore this evening.

$450, looks to be in good shape. Bayonet too. Did I do well?

>>32805059
>this mother fucker has a kar 1888
W A N T
B A D
How much and where

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>>32810960
>Mag plate and reciever matched from the look of it. Rest was a mishmash.
>The markings were damn near pristine, especially the Nazi eagle, which I thought was normally destroyed.
No, only the butthurt gypsies (Romanian Communists) scrubbed the German markings; The Russians might just remove the little swastika in the Reichsadler proof; sometimes they didn't do anything at all.
>It looks nice. If $500 is a fair price I think I'll go for it, the rifle is really solid mechanically and the stock is beautiful
The shininess of the stock makes me think it's been refinished, but the metal finish looks like a proper age patina. $500 is probably decent price. Got more pics?

>>32811162
>>32811177
>>32811194
Finnish-captured 1932 Izhevsk M91/30. The condition of the metal finish doesn't look like a Russian-refurbished 91/30, so I think it's a legit capture that needed a stock replacement when the Finns picked it up.

>>32811259
Finns almost never scrubbed Soviet or Russian markings.

>>32811994
>a regular soviet rifle repaired with a Finn stock.
That.

>>32812099
>>32812110
Another Finn-captured Soviet M91/30. Note that the Cyrillic 2-letter serial number prefix has been translated into Latin characters, and also marked on the receiver ring >>32812099 . This is a hallmark of early 90s imports from Finland, before the ATF started requiring a new unique serial number on every imported rifle. Also the condition of the metal finish; not the dull dip-blue of a Soviet refurb. This one also looks like it may have had its stock refinished Stateside.

>I honestly think it may have had its stock switched
Possible. The metal finish of both rifles looks original rather than the duller color of a Russian post-WW2 refurb, so I don't think either of them were imported from a Russian source. I don't see any refurb facility marks on either of them.

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1944 DOT Mauser in need of a stock
1971 p1 Want to nab some ww2 grip panels
1919-22 Commercial Luger Want to nab some new magazines, grips perhaps a stock for it

>>32803349
Excellent picture

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>>32811915
that picture is missing a few things

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>>32812832
The sporterized one I got 2 months ago for $150

the nice one was $300 a year or so back.

factory twins

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>>32812986
wow thank you this was massively helpful. The story behind both of those mosins is pretty awesome, but I won't be able to get both. I guess I'll just pick whichever feels more solid (I'd like to be able to use it as a shooter)

As for the 98k, I was pretty certain it had been refinished too, but wasn't too concerned about it. The rifle felt solid and clean. There's a bit of what looks like pitting on the sling up front but I was going to keep the 98k as a range only gun so wasn't too concerned. Had a really hard time getting pics, the area the guns are kept in is tiny.

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>>32814400
I could go back to the store today to get more pics if you guys really want to see something that I didn't notice

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>>32814435
and final question. Guy wanted $300 originally for each mosin, but immediately dropped it to $250 when I mentioned I wanted to collect them, same with the Mauser (he wanted 550 at first). Is that a fair price for Finn mosins (I'm pretty sure it is)

I think he'd do $700 for the Mauser and the hex Finn together if I brought cash and I feel pretty happy with that. The mosin has an incredible story and the Mauser is nice because it's the first one in the south I've ever seen that was "NAZI MARKINGS INTACT $2000".

and again, thanks guys, this was very helpful.

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>>32814522

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>>32814522
Yeah, $250 is a pretty decent price for Finn captured Mosins. If you hunt around you can find slightly better deals but the difference is gonna be $25 at most.

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Here's a picture of the handguard on my K31. What can I do about this crack

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>>32814522
Sounds like a good deal.

>>32814647
Spread the crack and push some Acraglas into it, and spread a little more around each side or the crack on the inside surface of the handguard.

>>32810786
i think my dick moved a little

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>Yugo mauser for 450 on gunbroker

is it worth bros? I have never shot a mauser only a lee enfield and m1903A3.

it'd be my first bought gun.

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Beautiful gun, and the action works flawlessly, but unfortunately the bore has been worn out from years of use. I at least don't feel bad putting a lot of round through it.

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>>32815397
>Yugo mauser for 450 on gunbroker
This?
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/616491883

No. You can get one for $100 less from retailers.

>>32815453
it was this: http://www.gunbroker.com/item/617328545

>>32793875
>>32793886
>>32793897
>>32793911
>>32793925
Red Orchestra 3 looks pretty amazing

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>>32815473
>http://www.gunbroker.com/item/617328545
You can get the same for less $: https://ganymede.meccahosting.com/~a0000ae7/aaresult.php?PageId=32

>>32814535
>my p38 is a byf 43
They could be war buddies.

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Here's some of my rifles, if you have questions just ask

>>32793869
Whos dick do I have to fucking suck to get a No.1 Mk III* forend fixed and wont crack twice

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>>32817852
What's wrong with it? You should also know that you need to push DOWN on the stock when you take it off of the gun. Do not grab the muzzle end and pull as that will crush the wood, the draws, that attaches to the receiver.

>>32817918
My stocked craked once, I had it """Fixed""" and today I took the first 4 shots after it being fixed and it split again. I bought a new stock for it but its the one with the reinforcing bar and my doesnt have that

>>32816964
>M39

How much did you pay for that and where did you find it? I've heard the Finn mosins are pretty rare.

>>32818209
there's always a ton of m39's on gunbroker

>>32817946
Where was the split? Reinforcing bar? The "Ishy screw?"

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>>32793869
Just picked up this G24(t) from a gun show along with 255 rounds of 1950's brass case 8mm Mauser on stripper clips.

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>>32819055
>Just picked up this G24(t) from a gun show along with 255 rounds of 1950's brass case 8mm Mauser on stripper clips.
Nice find; how much? Who made the ammo?

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>>32818416
They're hilariously overpriced, or rich cocksuckers bid war up to 650+ on them driving them over what they're worth. It's painful to look for one. I saw one end for 1200$ a while back I shit you not.

Does this look like rust? It sure as shit does to me and would explain why noone has bought this rifle yet.

>>32797218
Alright, I see you everywhere, but never really talked to you past your MAS rifle.
Are you some richfag? How and why do you get so much milsurp rifles? How many do you have?

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Still technically milsurp :^)
Who else is in the Adrian helmet master race?

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>>32819072
$650, came with a random Vz bayonet and reproduction 98K sling. Ammo is Yugoslavian.

>>32819158
yeah, I saw that too.
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/600932599 ?
it would also be dishonest to pretend this is on the level of M39's you'll spend less then $650 on with that stock

but regardless of the increased price, they're readily available which is what I was saying

>>32819261
>http://www.gunbroker.com/item/600932599

That one has a rarer ski trooper stock that looks gorgeous, there's a reason that one costs more

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>>32819416
>That one has a rarer ski trooper stock
Doesn't apply to m/39; they all have the dual set of sling mounts. It went for more because it's wartime, matching, beautiful, unrefurbished, and ANTIQUE.

>>32818209
I got it from pat burns while that was a thing. $350 but $400 after tax and ffl and such. They're not common, just not quite rare

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinRarity.htm

>>32819469
this

except legally and literally it's not an antique, not sure why that's a selling point to anyone

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>>32819213
>Rich
I probably make more than most people on /k/ but that's not saying much. I'm upper middle class at best.
>How
Been collecting since I was 17. I'm 30 now, so I've had time. I also hunt for stuff daily in multiple places.
>Why
The fuck else am I gonna buy? I have some modern stuff too but it's not as interesting to me.
>How many
I dunno, if you count my pistols probably over 30. I haven't gotten around to taking decent pictures of those, because most pistols are boring to me.

>>32819510
It is because this guy has sent hundreds of these to people without FFLs and noone has said anything about it.

Regardless, I just want a great condition M39 with as much life in the bore as possible. I don't mind blueing wear or scratches. I'd want to avoid rust or pitting, but regardless, finding one that isn't gouged as fuck is god damn impossible.

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>>32819510
>not sure why that's a selling point to anyone
Some people wish to avoid 4473s. Also antique status makes buying it easier in certain states.

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>>32819234
fugg off surblusshid xDDDD

>>32819613
Do you speak english mongoloid? Sorry I can't have a cast helmet like you gayboi >:^(

>>32819213
>how do you into money
>t.millennial

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>>32819613
This is for milsurp firearms, not uniform items.

That being said, here's my (lightly used) Adrian helmet.

someone sell this cali-cuck an SKS

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>>32819645
get a real gun or fugg off bag to gontainment xDDD

ur the cancer gilling /gay/

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>>32819773
dolan duck will shidd ur scam niglet down

AGAM

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>>32819813
>>32819836
Is that a repro or original uniform and kit? Have you posted that Mle 1936 before?

You're making me made jealous!

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>>32819773
>Lightly used
>Bullet hole
You what?

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>>32819934
It's all original except for the numbers on the patches which were made up just for this pic.

The patch material itself is original.

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>>32818595
1/4

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>>32820579
here it is budging out from the receiver
2/4

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>>32820598
the rear (and original) reinforcing bar. The whole rear part of the fore end is why I cant find a replacement
3/4

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>>32820619
4/4, Fuck does boyds make a replacement thats a copy of the military fore end or are they all sporter fore ends

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>>32820381
Nice. Where did you get all of that? Or are you a Frenchfag?

>>32821601
Webbing from eBay
Helmet from some forum (I forgot)
Jacket from a hipster store

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>>32820619
There are people that can fix that, but it looks like the draws are completely gone. If you don't know what that means, just google Enfield draws.

>>32821626
Ah, nice. I'm jealous. I need all of that sort of stuff. What did you pay for your Mle 1936? What prefix is it? Mine's a K and was made pretty close to the armistice.

>>32821749
My MAS 36 was about $350 but it had the wrong sight (which was bubba'd) and fucked with handguards so I had to replace both those parts.

I think the prefix is H.

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>>32821802
Where in the hell did you find the original sights?

>>32821749
>there are people who can fix that
WHO, but honestly I would rather buy a New Old stock/Newly made fore end at this point. I need two more for some projects anyway

>>32814647
Love it for what it is.

>>32821825
It was the rear sight leaf.

I think it was eBay.

Gotta step up my surp game
but im hitting a barrier with unicorn rounds, since i havnt gotten into reloading yet.

maybe some funky mausers? how available is swiss shit if i felt like a K31?

>>32822271
GP11 is fairly common, relatively cheap and very high quality for the price, so a K31 would be a good choice.

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>>32793869
OP here, my friend and I accidentally cut a tree down with ×54r and ×39. We didn't realize that it would fall just because of a few thousand rounds until we heard stress cracks and watched it fall on our camp and tent.

>>32822881
das illegal son

>>32822894
we had a firewood collection permit and were going to cut down that dead tree anyways

>>32822992
then carry on

>>32822881
that tree better have been dead fuck face, else I hope Mother Nature rapes you to death

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>>32794869
We know

M95 Steyr masterrace

>>32796219
I got mine for $225 with over $300 worth of ammo and clips, about half is nazi marked.

It's pretty much my favorite rifle ever but you still got screwed pretty hard.

See. >>32823018

>>32823012
it was dried up, rotting, and literally crumbling apart upon touch.

>>32803140
Pics bro

Early morning bump

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>>32793886
I had a legit one. Scope doesn't match, though.>>32793897

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Grandpa gave me his bring back arisaka and his bringback browning high power today. The browning is a inglis, says he traded a p38 to a Canadian for it. The arisaka is sporterized and missing the cocking peice and firing pin but it's a low serial number and the bolt body matches. Told me he's gonna will his collection to me. His collection is milsurp heaven, mostly og configuration. He has 3 1903a3's a couple garands, 2 or 3 k98's, a whole crate of mosins, a p38 and a couple Lugers.

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>>32823661
new thread

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>>32810760
>Ross rifle
Ever since I read "A Rifleman Went to War" I've had a raging hard-on for Ross rifles. Sure does suck that I can't find one anywhere.