/ktg/ #69 Knife Thread General

>>32671422
First!

>>32671422

>M390 PM2

My fucking dick.

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>>32671520

Inb4 sogfag post garbage
Lets keep it clean boys
Microtech guy stay out

>>32671422
That one from Battlbox?

>>32671545
You were supposed to fuck off. You are more cancer than SOG

>>32671632
Nope, bentoboxshop . com. M390 PM2

>>32671498
It's next on my list.

>>32671691
i considered it but i already have an s110v pm2
nxt on my list is a boker kwaiken ( showing up in my ailbox tomorrow) then 15 or so other knives on my wishlist

>>32671691
Man, fuck bentoboxshop.

They get some cool shit you can't find anywhere else, but their pricing is absolutely insane, and their customer service is literally nonexistent--they won't even consider accepting returns.

Their site even manages to look shady as fuck. I don't know how the assholes managed to get so many exclusive sprint run deals with Spyderco. I know it's a legit shop, but seriously, fuck them.

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>>32671422
>wasting dubs by posting Spyderco junk
WEW
E
W

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protech best brand

>>32671422
These ktg threads are turning into all the other generals.
Faggot name fags and trip fags
Retarded fake knives
Bad information
And if course, sogfag and the designated retard known as hunter 3-1 Actual both making regular appearances

>>32672155
Smoke my pole kid.
My mission is to keep microtech guy and sogfag out
You will thank me down the line
Stay gold ktg

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>>32671422

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>>32672064

>>32672064

Do you keep posting about the same knife over and over because you spent all your money on one?

>>32672473
>there are literally so few failures with a sebenza that you have to post the same pic over and over
I be you think glocknades are a thing too

Hey ktg, what Spyderco should I look at getting next? Got an Endura 4 and Manbug 3 in hap40. Kind of a fixed blade fanatic, but I'm in the market for a folder. Budget around 150.

This thread needs some actual knives.
Requesting coldsteel

Looking for a higher quality knife similar to the CRKT Ignitor w/ veff. Any ideas?

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R8 my knife /k/

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>>32673637
Faggot/10
Reasons:
Inconsistent blade grind
Poor steel
Mall ninja grip
Bad customer service
Owner is also a pedo. Check bladeforums for story

>>32673637
Ductknife/10

>>32673683
well at least it was free.

Whats the best general utility knife for <150 dollarydoos

>>32673790
Depends on what you are looking for.
I like benchmade blades myself.
I am partial to the griptilian series.
Great steels, amazing customer service for life, free sharpening and repairs.
Spyderco is fairly decent too, but i hate the customer service they have

>>32672168
>My mission
How fucking delusional are you? It's a goddamn website lmao.

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less being gay
more knives

Since when did Hunter 3-1 Actual come to /ktg/?
I thought he usually stuck to the gun threads.

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Anyone else think the new Para 3 looks like a halfway aborted Para 2?

It's ugly af

>>32673160
Any particular type or niche for the knife that you're looking for?

>>32673790
If you like the hawkbill shape of that knife, I'd recommend a Spyderco Tasman Salt or a A.G. Russell Beak.

>>32673831
>but i hate the customer service they have
What's wrong with it?

>>32671422
Hey guys, I'm looking for good knives under $25 for groomsman gifts, preferably something with flat scales that can be engraved. I'm a knife guy but none of my guys really are, so they wouldn't appreciate anything really expensive.

I was thinking Kershaw or Ganzo (obvious Benchmade clone is obvious). Let me know your opinions!

>>32673972
Its important stuff kid. Way beyond your comprehension.
>>32674828
I go where I am needed

>>32675055
It's non existent
>>32674672
Shut up hunter i know thats you

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>>32675914
He's got a point. Less being gay, more knives.
Or be gay all you want, but more knives

>>32676004
>its a knife thread
>better post benchmade
Jesus you are stupid. Post knives not garbage

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Love my Spydercos

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>>32676038
Oh.

You actually are cancer

>>32674942
It's like the pm2 had a baby with danny devito

>>32676065
>Love my garbage
I get that people are poor, but can we get some quality knives posted?

>>32675772
BRK Avispa, you can engrave the frame lock side.

>>32676162
You fucking drove away microtech guy by making fun of his sick kid.
HE WAS THE ONLY TOP TIER KNIFE POSTER
I hope you die

>>32676150
At least i dont have cancer like microfags kid. Lol #rekt
>>32676181
I did what you kids should have done a long time ago. He contributed NOTHING to this board and NOTHING to knife threads

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>When you finally get the hang of freehand sharpening and just use a coffee cup now

>>32676065
Nice. Is that a manbug or a ladybug down below?

>>32671953
I know. I'm a bit weary of buying from them because of that.

>>32672064
>wasting thread space by posting Shitbenzas
>>>/b/

>>32672068
If you like novelty knives, sure.

>>32672155
It wouldn't be turning into all the other generals if you and the actual Hunter weren't here. You do realize you're a worthless name fag too right?

>>32676317
How new are you?
Do you not know what hunter posting is?
Usually when he shows up, a bunch of people troll the shit out of him by copying his name or by using parody names.
For whatever reason hunter isn't too spergy tonight.
>TLDR: hunter 3-1 Actual is a meme.

>>32671691
>>32673972
>>32675900
>>32676150
>>32676181
The first rule of /ktg/ is you do not talk to Hunter.
The second rule of /ktg/ is you do not talk to Hunter.

>>32676370
I am not a meme.
This thread better improve by morning.
>50 replies and 15 images
Do i have to do everything myself?
>>32676383
Look at this kid calling everyone out in the thread. Quit trolling and post knives

>>32676162
I bet you like Bitchmade. What are you, a faggot trap?
>>32676065
Solid brand, even though I disagree with their warranty. Still best knives for decent prices.
>>32675900
You are needed at St. Judes hospital for gay retarded children.
>>32674942
I sorta like it. Doesn't look quite as good as its bigger brother but at least it doesn't look like the Jot Singh or Szabofly.
>>32673160
Obligatory PM2. The Stretch 2 lightweight in ZDP-189 is like a more comfortable Endura, if you don't mind a lockback. There's also some Spyderco fixies, like the Mule Team.

>>32676290

Ladybug. Best keychain knife ever.

>>32676370
Bitch I've been here from the start. I'm in a bad mood and had enough of Hunter's homosexuality so I'm giving him some heat. I agree though, he's a meme that needs to die.

>>32676162

>VG-10
>their "cheap" Delicas and Enduras come with full flat grinds

Can't really get better than that.

>>32676461
He will die if people ignore him. Then he will lose his purpose in life and become a shriveled shell of an anon.

>>32675914
>It's non existent
Have you tried using it? Most reports of it sounds like its fine.

Sure, they have the "disassembling voids the warranty" clause, but that only applies if you're retard and can't get your knife back together.

>>32676419
Lol. Get rekt kid.
Those are not arguments
>>32676461
I am beyond your abilities, and quit pretending newkid. You don't know anything
>>32676499
>vg10
>flatgrinds
Are you really defending those 'features'?
They are part of why spyderco is garbage
Go read a book

18 posts since the last knife
Way to go kids you ruined another thread

You know Hunter, you might be a bit more convincing if you add pictures of your knives to your posts as well.

>>32676755
fucking kid can't search in previous threads, good job kiddo

>>32676815
Don't pretend to be me faggot

>>32676834
No, you don't pretend to be me

Faggot

>>32676815
>>32676834
>>32676868
Fucking fake niggers, can't you take your cancer elsewhere?

>>32676886
>>32676868
>>32676834
>>32676815
>pretending to be me
I left this thread over an hour ago, and you bitches are all arguing with eachother?
Lol
But seriously, knock it off or the consequences will be severe

>>32676886
>>32676868
>>32676834
>>32676815
don't you kids have school in the morning?

Its a hunter posting thread!
Calling all hunters!

Hunter 3-1 Actual confirmed meme: the banana/pickle of /ktg/

>>32676929
Shut up newkid.
This thread is for adults only.
Quit trolling and lets chat knives
So does anyone here actually own any knives?

>>32676937
Hey kiss my ass.
Im not a meme, i didn't even fucking do anything this time.
All these pretenders are trying to smear my spotless reputation again.
You will never make me into a meme. I am far too powerful for the likes of you kid

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Here's my favorite knife since you kids can't get your shit together and post knives

>>32677039
Thats not a knife thats a toothpick

This is the worst thread ever
Someone screencap this nonsens

>>32677087
Do it yourself faggot

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I really poor so what would be the most poorfag of poorfag knife on the market?

>>32677142
>>32677142
What would you use it for?

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my sidebitch knives... i mostly use a not picture rebar. also my old mora is worn to shit, this is a shiny new one

>>32676637
>>vg10
>>flatgrinds
>Are you really defending those 'features'?
>They are part of why spyderco is garbage

The Spyderco "full flat grind" isn't a true FFG. If it was, the edge would be too acute, and edge retention would be terrible. The actual grind that holds the edge is about 30 degrees from the factory, and they recommend a 40 degree microbevel on that, which customers can add with a Sharpmaker.

There's nothing wrong with VG-10 stainless, if properly heat-treated. Maybe if the knife really did have a 12 degree edge, you'd see chipping, but 30-40 degree bevels will stay sharp for a long time.

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>>32677142
sanrenmu a148/c142, fro under $5
ganzo's cheaper stuff is hit or miss
the old standby, sanrenmu 7010 is under $10 from fasttech or $12 from fleabay

or if you feel like spending $20 for a brand name, crkt drifter

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I recently got into Japanese kitchen knives and I've realized something. American pocket knives are too fucking expensive and too fucking pointless.

In Japanese kitchen knives, $200 will get you the creme de la creme of gyuto knives made out of high grade steel with perfect heat treatment, blade geometry to minimize wedging in foods and a laser-like edge that can stay sharp for a surprisingly long time. I'm talking about an 8-10 inch blacksmith-forged knife, sometimes with beautiful damascus finishes, which is very utilitarian, but you can feel the quality of the craftsmanship in the hand-edged kanji on the blade. Each type of kitchen knife that's made has a very specific use or range of uses for certain foods, as well as a very specific technique for how to get the most out of cutting with the knife.

However, $200 is barely enough for a "mid tier" Benchmade or Spyderco with partially serrated blade and the most basic bitch of G10 handles. As far as the blade shape/geometry, blade steel, and edge grind go, these and similar companies appear to make every conceivable combination, possibly as a way to confuse customers into thinking they need any more than one or two pocket knives to fill their needs. Judging from this thread, the strategy seems to result in a Pokemon-esque "collect 'em all" type of mentality where knife ownership equates with knife collecting. People seem to end up with several dozen pocket knives that all cut cardboard boxes in about the same sort of way, but with a different handle color, with a blade that's 2mm taller/shorter or has more or less of a curve toward the point.

How do you guys live with yourselves knowing that you wasted many thousands of dollars on a drawer full of of knives that you don't use any differently than you'd use a $2 box cutter?

>>32677566
autism: the post

>>32677566
Chinese high end knives are where it's at these days, 400-600$ knives for the price of normal cuckmades and shekelcos

>>32677566
>How do you guys live with yourselves knowing that you wasted many thousands of dollars on a drawer full of of knives that you don't use any differently than you'd use a $2 box cutter?
it's called a hobby, dipshit.

you'll have an aneurysm trying to fathom how much the posters of /a/ have spent on anime figurines or /b/tards spending on dragon dildos

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but the Spyderco Endura 4 with the Emerson wave is literally the fastest knife. You only need one hand, too. Really great. Could be better, but the speed is just incredible.

>>32677782
>>32677788
Nice knife, how's elmax been holding up for you?

>>32677827
Best steel ive tried

>>32677766
Is that your EDC?

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>>32677600
The anime figuring collectors with taste won't fill up their shelves with 100 Miku figures or 200 Saber figures. That's what you're doing when you just keep buying the same ZT knife with a different shape curve to the blade, or the same Spyderco knife with a different color handle.
>>32676065 All those fucking Miku figurines.

>>32677142
Sanrenmu or Ganzo if you don't mind obligatory clones. CRKT, Buck, and Spyderco make some decent cheapo cheapos.

>>32677839
Is that the ass of a 9mm shell keeping the frame lock from overtraveling? That's a really nice knife indeed.

>>32677860
I'd disagree on the Spydercos, the PM2 sprint runs may have different color scales but they have entirely different steels. Sure some of the popular models like the Delica/Endura, Dragonfly, etc come in stupid colors but usually it does indicate a steel difference. Like the yellow handles are H1, dark green are ZDP, burnt orange are HAP40, etc.

>>32677566
But that's wrong (and probably bait think I think I saw before).

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>>32677880
Yeah, i saw those on ebay and DIY'd one. Fits great!

>>32677885
>entirely different steels
Which are largely pointless to change.

>>32677914
It's a meme to accuse people of copypasta when you can't address any of their arguments. I wrote that post from scratch and it's entirely correct.

>>32671470

Hideous.

>>32677947
But there are top tier Japanese kitchen knives going for way more than $200 and mid-tier Spydercos are more like $60-200, not starting at $200. Benchmades are more, but that's because Les de Asis is very greedy.

>>32677971
You can get a very nice one for under $200. For ten inches of steel, your money goes much further, and you get a better product. For example, http://www.chefknivestogo.com/masamoto-chef-knife.html
Compare with https://www.knifecenter.com/item/BM581BK/Benchmade-581BK-Barrage-AXIS-Assisted-36-inch-M390-Black-Plain-Blade-G10-and-Aluminum-Handles

>>32677971
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/BM761/benchmade-761-titanium-framelock-folding-knife-m390-satin-plain-blade-titanium-handles
I mean, seriously.

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>>32677960

>>32677998
>>32678013
Benchmade's a bad example just because they're known for being mega jews. There was a big shitstorm when they started doing their MAP policy.

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Thin grinds best grinds

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wew

>>32675055
Not in particular I just alternate between Benchmade and Spyderco.

>>32677566
>Perfect heat treatment

Which you believe entirely on faith because you have no way to evaluate what heat treatment protocol any of them are using or what hardness they are targeting

>High grade steel

You don't understand enough about steel to know what is or is not high grade steel, or why the kinds of steel used in high end gyutos are not necessarily suitable for outdoor or folding knives.

>Laser like edge

Meaningless marketing term. I have pocket knives with similar edge geometries to a typical gyuto and others with more robust edge geometries designed to survive tasks what would destroy a typical gyuto

>Stay sharp for a surprisingly long time

Edge retention on a kitchen knife is almost entirely a function of how well the apex resorts microscopic rolling or chipping from repeated contacts with a cutting board.

That is a very specific use case featuring almost zero abrasive wear.

Go try to use the same steel and apex finish to slice cardboard, carpet or rope and see how fast it goes dull.

>Beautiful Damascus finishes

Modern pattern welded steel is always and everywhere inferior to a single steel type in performance because no two steels have the same ideal heat treatment requirements, thus pattern welded steel is always a compromise to HT.

>Spyderco

Bitch, Spyderco literally bought a fucking CATRA machine to have an objective way to test the performance of their heat treatments, which they design themselves.

Their R&D costs, materials costs and manufacturing costs are much higher than those for most gyutos.

And a fair number of those steels and blade shapes do have ideal use cases, you just don't know what they are. It would be like me saying why do you need all those kitchen knives when a gyuto and a parer can do everything?

>>32677947
>Which are largely pointless to change.

Just because you have literally no idea nor understanding of the differences between steels like 52100, s110v, Maxamet and LC200n doesn't mean that they don't exist.

Many of the steels used in modern folding knives and fixed blades have dramatically different mixtures of steel properties and are tailored to excel in different use cases.

>>32676419
In the market for a Spyderco folder specifically. Not sure if I want a para2, but been considering it.

>>32677566
This poat is great, hows it feel being fuckin retarded?

>>32677594
>>32677597
>>32677600
>>32677914
>>32679235
>>32679381
Lol. I turned off my name and got all these replies.
Got ya dudes.
Also, you all know im right here.
I have yet to see anything truely unique and usable apart from the sebenza.
You guys need to spend less money and read more books
Its high noon kids

>>32677566

You're just trolling here, right? Or you just retarded?

Looking for a quality butterfly knife. Any suggestions?

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Thinking about getting an S110V manix 2 next

>>32679235
Lol. The brand name babby got his little butt hurt.

>Which you believe entirely on faith
There are a lot of things in life that we take on faith because of the opinions of experts. The thing about truth is that it exists absolutely in the world regardless of opinion. If you believe someone is wrong, you can prove that they're wrong, or at least find an expert that disagrees and evaluate the evidence. Saying that someone is basing their belief on an expert's opinion and therefore doesn't know for sure is not an argument.

>You don't understand enough about steel
Nice baseless claim.
>or why the kinds of steel used in high end gyutos are not suitable for outdoor or folding knives.
Did I say they all were?

>Meaningless marketing term. I have pocket knives with similar edge geometries to a typical gyuto and others with more robust edge geometries designed to survive tasks what would destroy a typical gyuto
In no way is anything you typed any more precise than my "meaningless marketing term." Oh, your Sebenza would "destroy" a "typical gyuto," huh? How about you define any of the bullshit you are spewing?

>Go try to use the same steel and apex finish to slice cardboard, carpet or rope and see how fast it goes dull.
Why do you think I was implying that kitchen knives should be imitated exactly in pocket knives? I didn't say that and it's very irritating to have someone try to put words in my mouth that I didn't say. What I said is that the values are not the same and pocket knives are not good values compared to kitchen cutlery.

>>32679235
>Modern pattern welded steel is always and everywhere inferior to a single steel type in performance because no two steels have the same ideal heat treatment requirements, thus pattern welded steel is always a compromise to HT.
No, that's not true at all. A damascus finish has no effect on blade performance at all and is purely for beauty. The only advantage of a laminated steel is really just to protect the core metal from corrosion and there's no need to heat treat the outer layers. Otherwise, the core steel of a laminated knife and the blade of a mono-steel knife of comparable steel and heat treatment are going to be identical.

>autistic rant about Spyderco's wanton spending of money
1: Not all pocket knife manufacturers have nearly the R&D or overhead of Spyderco.
2: Just because Spyderco runs their business like this does not mean they have to run it that way to get the same results. They could just as easily contract out their testing to another company without all the overhead.
3. You're still not addressing my point about idealness. Spyderco knives don't really sort by purpose (with some exceptions), but rather by color and gimmicky blade shape.

>It would be like me saying why do you need all those kitchen knives when a gyuto and a parer can do everything?
That's correct, though.

>>32679245
>Just because you have literally no idea nor understanding of the differences between steels like 52100, s110v, Maxamet and LC200n doesn't mean that they don't exist.
>
>Many of the steels used in modern folding knives and fixed blades have dramatically different mixtures of steel properties and are tailored to excel in different use cases.
Again, it's very annoying when you try to put words in my mouth that I didn't say. Differences exist, but forcing the consumer to choose steel, blade grind, blade type and every other little detail seems to trivialize all that gratuitous R&D overhead that they're paying out the ass for with every knife.

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>>32679499
>>32679381
>This poat is great, hows it feel being fuckin retarded?
>This poat is great
>This poat
>poat
>hows it feel being fuckin retarded?
>poat

>>32680058
>lol you made a typo therefore your'e retarded

Looking to buy a paramilitary 2. Should I just go on blade HQ and buy it for the best deal?

>>32680038

I noted that you believe what you do about Japanese kitchen knives due to marketing since those Japanese makers do not disclose anything about their heat treatment protocols or target hardness.

At least in North America you can find custom makers who will identify the type of HT protocol they run and the target hardness. Spyderco at least gives a target hardness range and has a track record of using sound metallurgy I'm developing their hear treatments.

>Baseless claim

Please, feel free to explain what makes the steels typically used in Japanese kitchen knives "high grade", or for that matter what substantively differentiates those steels from 1095, O-1 or 52100.

>Precise

What I said is much more precise because it can be quantified. Typical gyutos are on the order of 0.010"-0.015" thick at the shoulder to the edge bevel and 0.025"-0.035" thick 1/4" behind the apex. There are folding knives on the market that have similar edge geometries.

Something more robust, like 0.015"-0.020" at the shoulder and 0.040"-0.045" at 1/4" behind the edge like a Paramilitary 2 is much more robust and better suited to whittling hardwoods, heavy gauge zip ties, etc.

>Values

Maybe you should look into the raw materials cost and cost to heat treat the kinds of steels used by Japanese cutlery makers vs some of the steels used by folding and utility knife makers before making silly comparisons then.

Hint: Highly alloyed steels of all kinds are typically much more expensive to purchase and to heat treat than white and blue paper steels.

>>32680050

>No that's not true at all.

If you mean a "Damascus" cladding, sure, but then that is just for looks. If you mean the core blade is "Damascus" then yes, it will always be worse than mono steel core because the heat treatment protocol has to be a compromise between the two steels pattern welded together to form the fake "Damascus"

>Being so ignorant that you don't care about or value someone in this industry full of snake oil lies and marketing actually using science in choosing their steels and heat treatments

Spyderco and custom makers who actually learn metallurgy are the only ones who deserve money. They spend R&D money actually using empirical testing to develop ideal heat treatments for the steels they use, most of which are a lot more expensive to buy and to HT than you realize.

The rest of this industry is full of shills, marketing and snake oil. Me, I prefer science to vodoo, so I'll stick to the people and companies that use sound metallurgy and you can stick to whatever gets shilled the hardest on CKTGs forum.

>Forcing the consumer to choose

OH GOD! Spyderco and custom makers expect their customers to be able to do their own research and figure out what they want in terms of steel, blade size, shape and grind! How terrible! If only they would take away all consumer choice and make a single lowest common denominator model, then you might be able to understand them!

>>32680050

Oh and by the way, this stuff about heat treatments really matters with kitchen knives as well, since ideally kitchen knives should be run to very high target hardnesses with very fine grain structures and minimal retained austenite, but those kinds of heat treatments start to require a lot more esoteric shit to get right like very provide temperature and time control, multiple quenches, normalizations, multiple tempers, cryo and so on.

Hence I'm not very inclined to trust a knife making industry that won't tell you anything about how they HT their blades and which is even more irrationally married to tradition than Western knifemakers.

>>32680413
*Precise

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>>32680413
>>32680324
>>32680212
>anything I don't like is snake oil or vodoo [sic], and anything Spyderco makes is a precision cutting implement (even though, all I use them for is opening up cardboard boxes that contain other knives I ordered)

I still don't see any proof of your claims or of the inherent higher value of these little folders, only vague assertions about how pseudo-transparency of trade secrets equates with quality and invalid comparisons of how kitchen knives aren't made for sawing through wire ties. You even contradict yourself by claiming that steels used in kitchen knives are deservedly cheaper than pocket knife steels, but that admit that many pocket knives use the same steels.

The kind of attitude toward these types of knives that I can see in your posts is in line with much of the industry of desiring the hardest and therefore the "best" steel in a pocket knife primarily, which has resulted in a lot of committee-designed knives that sell like hotcakes, but which are terrible to own. The plethora of spring-assist, tanto-tip knives made out of super hard tool steels are a perfect example.

So many modern pocket knives use these ultra hard steels that have long-lasting edge retention, but when you take into account the fact that the average consumer either never sharpens their knives, possesses inferior sharpening equipment or possesses some suitable equipment but doesn't know how to use it, all that is going to result in is a bunch of people with $150 knives that are constantly dull. The recurved and quirky blade shapes often used in these knife designs don't help at all in this regard.

Again, you can nitpick, dismiss, hype and make all the invalid comparisons all you want, but at the end of the day, for the same price of a tiny 3 inch folder that uses a flashy, untested design and steels not perfectly suited to its use, you can get a 10 inch kitchen knife that's designed in a way to maximize usefulness and will last forever.

>>32679318
PM2 is great, one of my favorites. The other favorite is the green Stretch in ZDP as I own one. If you want to cheap out go Delica, or if you want higher end get the Gayle Bradley 2

>>32679804
What do you want in a balisong? A flipper or an EDC?
For flipping, BRS pretty much owns the market in that department. The cheapest model is the BareBones and is fairly common, there's still some in stock on BladeHQ from the last drop, and they're $225. Normally I don't think balis are worth their MSRP but the BB is definitely worth buying new, the flipping quality is great. If you're willing to wait and watch the secondary market, the Replicant is a little higher end between $300-400 depending on model type, mods, and condition, and the Alpha Beast which is often considered one of the best goes for $400-500 depending on model and condition.
If you want one you can carry but still flips decently, hands down the Benchmade 51. Not the greatestflipper out of the box but it's still a better flipper than any of the cheaper options and it makes a great EDC weighing 3.3 oz with D2 steel, G10 scales, ti liners, and a spring latch. But at $240 new I'd say watching the secondary market is the best way to get one because you can find them at $150-180, because in my opinion it is not worth $240.
And with balisongs, just as much any other guns or knives, it's sort of a buy once cry once deal. Sure they're expensive but you get what you pay for, and since the market is relatively small, there aren't many options out there so people like BRS and Hom came out to give people good stuff at fair prices but the production is limited.

>>32680613

I did provide evidence. Spyderco bought a CATRA machine to empirically test the performance of their knives. Independent testing of the hardness of their knives has shown them to be near the claimed targeted hardness and their slicing edge retention has always been consistent with high end customs with similar steels and geometries (see Anderson's edge retention testing for proof of that). Custom makers are usually even more forthcoming about the details of their heat treatments which you can then check against metallurgical principles yourself or go ask the experts on Hype Free Blades if you can't grasp the ideas involved.

On the other hand, Japanese makers will typically tell you NOTHING about their heat treatments.

>I still don't see any proof of your claims or of the inherent higher value of these little folders.

You can go price out white and blue paper steels vs 52100, s110v, s30v, LC200n, Maxamet, 10V, etc and see for yourself the difference in raw materials cost.

Then go ask some knifemakers how hard high alloy steels are to heat treat compared to simple carbon steels and how much the equipment to do those protocols costs.

>>32680613

>hardest and therefore the "best" steel in a pocket knife primarily,
>super hard tool steels are a perfect example.
>So many modern pocket knives use these ultra hard steels that have long-lasting edge retention,

LOL. Japanese kitchen knives are typically run to much higher hardness than the overwhelming majority of folding and utility knives, you clueless sperg, because kitchen knives are subject to little-to-no abrasive wear or lateral force and thus their HTs should prioritize apex stability (google it) over all other steel properties.

Folding knives and utility fixed blades can have a variety of different types of steel and heat treats depending on the intended use case (usually high wear resistance for folding knives expected to be subject to lots of abrasive wear, and high toughness in utility fixed blades expected to be used to bushcraft).

Most people never sharpen their kitchen knives in their lives either, does that mean everyone (even the people who DO sharpen) should be forced to use dollar store tier kitchen knives?

>but at the end of the day [wholly unsupported assertions]

Actually the pocket knives are perfectly designed for their intended use and gyutos suck because tall heels are better than the French chef's knife pattern the gyuto copies (<- this is literally you).

>>32680659
I might just do the para in s110v to see what all the hype is about. From my understanding it only offers increased wear resistance and like the others needs to be ran on a courser grit.

>>32680793
>I did provide evidence [that pocket knives are worth more per inch than a good Japanese kitchen knife]
You did not.
>Custom makers are usually even more forthcoming about the details of their heat treatments
Like Bark River? Lol.

>On the other hand, Japanese makers will typically tell you NOTHING about their heat treatments.
Do you have any contradictory evidence? You have presented none.

>>32680802
>Japanese kitchen knives are typically run to much higher hardness than the overwhelming majority of folding and utility knives
Again, you're conflating one type of knife with another. Since when do kitchen knives need to be suitable for opening boxes, whittling wood, cutting through hard materials or any other of the wide variety of tasks that pocket knives need to do? You are the only one who has and who continues to make this fallacious claim.

>Folding knives and utility fixed blades can have a variety of different types of steel and heat treats depending on the intended use case (usually high wear resistance for folding knives expected to be subject to lots of abrasive wear, and high toughness in utility fixed blades expected to be used to bushcraft).
That's two uses. Spyderco, to use one example, has about three dozen types of steel that they make knives out of. Not to mention the many blade profiles and blade grind combinations.

>Most people never sharpen their kitchen knives in their lives either, does that mean everyone (even the people who DO sharpen) should be forced to use dollar store tier kitchen knives?
There is such a thing as a hard steel that is easy to sharpen and a hard steel that is more difficult to sharpen. Have you never read about why people hate VG-10?

>>32680832

Basically, s110v is a good choice if you have diamond sharpening equipment and the vast majority of your cutting is slicing soft abrasive materials like cardboard, carpet and rope, and you prefer not to touch up your knives between full sharpenings.

>>32680866
Don't really cut a bunch of boxes. Mainly use them while gardening, cooking, some home "first aid" treatments. Might instead go with this Gayle Bradley since it runs m4. Got a 940-1 so I see how high the wear resistance is, can't imagine a knife running higher.

>>32680865

How about you provide some evidence that any Japanese makers will tell you anything about their heat treatments or targeted hardnesses?

By the way, Bark River is not a custom maker and is a complete charlatan. He's about as far as it is possible to get from custom makers who use modern metallurgical principles in their knifemaking.

How about you provide some evidence to counter he higher materials costs, heat treatment costs, and massively tighter tolerances required to make folding knives than to beat a piece of blue paper steel into a vaguely gyuto like shape and then power sharpen an edge on it with no liquid cooling?

Im not conflating anything, you are the one who made the laughable claim that folding knives were made of harder steel than Japanese knives, and acted as if harder steel was a bad thing.

You've done literally nothing to support the idiotic idea that Japanese kitchen knives provide a better value than ALL folding knives and ALL custom blades.

Spyderco makes lots of models because people have different needs and preferences in what they want in a folding knife. Just like custom makers make very different knives for different customers based on what those customers want and need.

Also, any steel is easy to sharpen if you have decent stones and don't suck, btw.

>>32680944
You've gotten pretty emotional at this point. How about you calm down and look at what you just typed rationally?

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>>32680613
You act like every pocketknife enthusiast has the same tastes and buys every bit of hype in the industry. That's simply not the case.

My background is in R&D and prototyping for the motorsports industry. I enjoy high-end pocket knifes as artifacts of industrial design and manufacturing. I find folders more appealing than kitchen knives because they're much more complex and involve difficult and exotic manufacturing processes.

The thing about kitchen knives is that they're proven and simple. It's one slab of metal, a couple of scales, and a design that hasn't changed much in a century. I have a couple of Shuns and a Wusthof and they're all I need in the kitchen, and I don't feel the urge to accumulate more kitchen knifes.

Folders, on the other hand, involve a ton of variety in design and mechanism. I love the Lionsteel TRE I'm currently EDCing because I understand how difficult the machining processes in making it were. Simply getting a titanium framelock flipper to work properly is a challenge, and then adding all of the contouring, decorative work, and internal lightening milling to the equation turns it into a real masterpiece. Doing that on a production scale with perfect fit and finish is even more impressive. Add in all of the other things that make the knife special, like the perfect stonewash, a milled Ti clip that actually works, the rounded spine and the way the tang lines up with the handle when closed, etc. and the knife becomes a pocket sized masterpiece of manufacturing art. I feel like $200 is a bargain, especially considering it'd probably cost me 5-10x that to have a comparable one-off made.

>>32680956
>You act like every pocketknife enthusiast has the same tastes and buys every bit of hype in the industry. That's simply not the case.
Literally look at any of the knife collections posted in one of these threads.

>>32680886

Given that use case, wear resistance is mostly a waste for you, stick to tool steels like HAP40, M4, and Cruwear or to low carbide steels like CTS-BD1, 8cr13mov, 52100 or LC200n when it gets introduced in knives cheaper than the Spydiechef.

Stay away from s30v, m390, 10v, Maxamet, s110v, CTS-XHP, etc because they sacrifice things you need (toughness and apex stability) for things you don't (wear resitance).

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>>32671422
Posting the same shit

Is it fucky that I own multiple PM2s but have never owned the s30v model? I just saw this thread and fuck my ass bentobox has the m390 in again, so I picked one up.

>>32680952

How about you actually engage the substance of this discussion with some empirical evidence and stop shitposting?

>>32680993
Not him, but if I was looking for a pocketknife that would resist chipping and be easier to sharpen than S110V and those types, would M4 be a good choice then? I have a 940-1 that is good for my office work but I'd like something I could occiasonally use for rougher tasks without finding chips later.

>>32681056

Define "rougher tasks" in as much detail as possible please.

>>32680993
Thanks, anon. Looks like I already gravitate to those type of steels already so that's great.

>>32680962
That's because there are only like 3 people that actually post collections in this thread. Go spend some time on Bladeforums or anywhere that's not 99% broke teenagers and you'll see a huge variety of interests and tastes.

>want EDC knife
>so many choices
I was thinking about a rat 2, Kershaw leek, or Kershaw cryo 2. Any other options?
I know they are cheap knifes, but I don't want to risk loosing an expensive knife while I'm at work. I just want a beater that will work everyday but I won't be upset if I lost it considering I go to 100 different places everyday.

>>32681072
Cutting kindling and prying off bark, occasionally prying a staple or snugging up a screw, cutting through small bones. Some things knives aren't really meant for but, life happens.

>>32681157
>Prying

If you want to be able to even do light prying with a pocket knife I would look for steels that prioritize toughness over everything else.

M4 is tough compared to stuff like s30v, but I still wouldn't want to pry with it. Honestly for those kinds of tasks I'm going to say a cheap Spyderco or Byrd in CTS-BD1 or 8cr13mov is probably a saner choice. Maybe 3V or Cruwear. If you don't need it to be a folder then A2 in a fixed blade.

>>32681252
Thank you anon, very helpful

>>32681152
Get the RAT 2. It's an incredibly good knife at any price. The blade holds a good edge, and while edge retention may not be what it is on higher end steel, it's still above average. The construction is surprisingly solid, and the placement of the thumb stud allow some the fastest blade deployment for the amount of effort required that I've seen on any knife.

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Got this one in today. 154CM steel and stag handles.

>>32681157
Get a SAK. You can use the screw driver for prying or honestly buy a pry bar from mass drop or country comm. Super fucking cheap and made from heat treated steel. Also available in a variety of sizes.

>>32681157
What kind of staples? Honestly an Ontario SP seems to be what you're after. Fairly affordable, time tested reliable 1095 steel, and they're on the bulkier side so can withstand a little abuse that's not intended for knives.

>>32682588
I love the looks of the kwaikens, so futuristic

>>32682696
I'm trying to tend away from high carbon steel because of rust, I like to be able to get the knife wet and forget about it without doing anything other than wiping the blade off.

>>32682770
i bent the clip on the purple one last week, i bent it back and it functions fine again, but it dont look as straight as it did before. Oh well. There was a foam pad with a cut into it same hight as the clip so the clip dug in nice.

The rikes are excellent knives though

>>32682770
Well, with the tasks you have in mind I would recommend a fixed blade over a folder. As for steel I think aeb-l or 3v would be good options. Better to find a maker than waste your time with production pieces.

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Native 3=GOAT

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Shitposting with my two knives for sale again.

Bitchmade morph $120 shipped.
Bitchmad Nim Cub II $100 shipped.

[email protected]

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>>32683984

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We out here

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I fixed the thread guys.

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>>32683964
.

Just bought a boker kwaiken ( non flipper)
just dissasebled
>fuck ikbs
and tomorrow or sometime this week im going to do the dietz flipper mod on it

>>32684033
> implying

>>32683964
>>32683984
>>32684008
>>32684044
stab yourself in the neck.
/k/ is not here to solve your poor consumer purchasing decisions

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The GOAT

>>32684128
>fuck ikbs
oh FFS, just use some oil or grease to hold the bearings in the race. anybody with basic mechanical aptitude can handle it.

>>32684657
i did exactly that im not incompetent its just having to be careful to not loose them when cleaning the etc
especially since they tend to stick to stuff and bounce when dropped

>>32684813

Your first mistake is thinking that Bokers are mean to be disassembled for cleaning. Took the third time trying to reassemble an Urban Trapper before I threw that piece of shit in the trash where it belongs.

>>32684838
eh i found it to be a neat design the deetz modified flipper is a neat idea i wanted to try out

only 90$ plua i had some cash i had to spend
still have $150 or so to spend

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>>32684813
>just having to be careful to not loose them when cleaning the etc
>especially since they tend to stick to stuff and bounce when dropped
pic related

>>32685176
i put a cloth under where i working with the edges folded up
works pretty well though iveconsidered getting some of those trays

>>32684377
Kek

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FUCK. I've been wanting a GTC Airborne forever, and now ZT announced a collab with GTC for basically what's a cheaper Airborne. But I'm now conflicted because my last 3 purchases were ZT's, and I want more variety in my collection.

>>32685604
220 isnt bad ive been considering it but wish also am wanting the 0460 since its another Sinkevich
and im absolutley in love with his custom knives

>>32685604
>>32685659
though also on my list is the opus , southard, ouroboros fro spyderco as well as about 20 other things

>>32685659
I love Sinkevich's stuff too (got the 0450, 0452 and 0456), but I'm not really feeling the 0460 that much. It's just a 0450 with a curvier handle.
For ZT this year, I feel like the 0850 and 0055 are awesome, but the 0460, 0920 and 0801 rehash are kinda boring.

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>>32685751
but its a production
https://www.instagram.com/p/BFuJzFHrlk3/
and thats such a sexy knife,

But if i were to get one of his customs it would have to be
https://www.instagram.com/p/BAjum6MrloM/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BAjwLM5LlrD/

>>32685659
>since its another Sinkevich
no it's not

>im absolutley in love with his custom knives
then buy one of his customs. they are retardedly overpriced, but if that is what you really want, buy one of those.

>>32685604

Why the fuck do you want that mall ninja piece of shit?

>>32685859
the 0460 is most certainly another Sinkevich
check the zt site man

>buy one of his customs
where? show me to where i can buy one and i will
i thought he did most of his stuff through auction

>>32685899
>0460 is most certainly another Sinkevich
>check the zt site man
hmm, not seeing Sinkevich knives there. I just see a bunch of shitty Kershaws.

>where? show me to where i can buy one and i will
I'm fairly certain he'll be at Blade this year, or put in a request with a high end knife shop. people that actually have money to buy his shit, don't have problems getting his shit.

>>32686030
https://zt.kaiusaltd.com/knives/knife/zt0460
based off of one of his customs

cant make it to bladeshow this year due to work
really wanted to go too

>>32686044
>based off of one of his customs
>based off
so shitty Kershaws, and not a Sinkevich...

>cant make it to bladeshow this year due to work
that's why I suggested high end knife shops. they have buyers that go to the show. I suggest putting in orders with multiple shops if you are serious

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>>32675914
im not hunter

>>32686181
I mean, Sinkevich does design the knives, unless that still counts only as Kershaw to you.

>>32685862
>mall ninja
How the hell is the SLT mallninja? Mallninja would be more of the tacticool pandering with zombies and needless spikes and accessories. Comparatively, the Airborne and 0055 are clean and utilitarian, with a bit of a futuristic air to the design.

>>32684650
How does that little protruding nub at the base of the edge not piss you off?

My knives are still at customs since the 13th. C'mon now, hurry along.

>>32684650
>That nail
Spooky

>>32684650
Jesus christ dude, do you bite your nails?

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Is the Morakniv Heavy Duty Companion worth it compared to the regular Morakniv Companion?

The thicker blade seems nice, but I've heard complaints about it not being as nimble for slicing, and having a fatter, less comfortable grip.

>>32682588
1507s look great
how do you like them?

>>32685856
holy shit I'm in love

>>32685856
I really love Sinkevich designs. Getting one of his customs is one of my main goals in life, even if it's overpriced as fuck.
Hopefully one day I'll have enough cash to snag one at a show or get one if a super rare internet sale pops up.

Might as well call these fucking threads "muh spyderco, muh benchmade" generals. And dont forget the always "chris reeve is god tier" dumbass. Bullshit run of the mill knives since nobody can save some fucking money and buy a good knife. "Muh $50 knife cuts just as good as a billion dollar knife" faggots.

>>32688452
Mora is fine.

>>32688835
At least Spyderco is worthy of "muh." Benchmade and Chris Reeve a shit. Kershaw, CRKT, and SOG ain't shit. Buck and Case are old tier. Gerber ain't even trying. Zero Tolerance is good I just don't like their half ti/half CF models and they don't make anything other than framelocks. What else is there really? Protech if you like novelty """switchblades,""" Microtech if you like overpriced OTFs and proprietary screws, Kizer, Rike, and WE if you like titanium flippper framelocks and don't want ZT, several fixed blade makers that only /out/ fags care about, and Boker for half-assed sorta okay knives under $100.

>>32688972
One brand I never see in /ktg/ is Brous, but he's no way as big as the really large companies.
You didn't mention Cold Steel, but these threads have far too much Cold Steel shitposting. Their normal utilitarian knives are quite good and very though, though.

>>32688984
Oh yeah I forgot about Meme Steel because most of their knives are meme worthy. I always forget about Brous because 90% of his stuff is overpriced, albeit definitely sexy looking. While we're rattling off all the makers and what they're known for I just remembered Lionsteel, Olamic, and Strider but I don't know much about them. Then there's midtech makers like CKF, ADV, Shirogorov, etc who are all overpriced pocket jewelry knives.

>>32688984
>very though, though.
Yes, that's a very though though.

>>32689008
It's strange how Cold Steel could make utilitarian, extremely durable folders like the American Lawman or Recon, yet also make autistic katanas and battle axes and shit.
It almost doesn't feel like the same company.

Is there any butterfly knife that isn't shit but doesn't cost a fucking kidney?

>>32688972
Schrade used to be cool, until it became Chinese-made shit.
Camillus used to be cool, until it became Chinese-made shit.
And Schrade still has the Old Timer series to give it some level of dignity, Camillus has fallen to $10 Walmart-tier nowadays.

>>32689024
Ikr. Their design team must consist of 1 dude that sorta knows how to build nice utility knives, and the other guy being the main marketing dude. That has to be where all the mall ninja shit is coming from.

>>32689025
BBBarfly, $25. Bradley Kimura, $100.

Other than that, no. Not much else worth your money under $150. It's a buy once cry once situation.

>>32688984
Cold Steel's utilitarian knives are relatively few even compared to their other knives, let alone the full spectrum of what they make.

They're fully deserving of shitposting, especially considering their business practices (and I'm not just talking about their advertising).

>Brous
I just remember him starting out and asking Knifeforums to comment on designs and him flipping out when everyone was calling dumb and to try making more practical designs.

I'm sure he's laughing all the way to the bank.

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Are ceramic blades viable on a folding knife?

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>>32671422
this shit even worth buying? i like the looks, anyone here own one?

>>32688452

Got the heavy duty companion blade and made my own handle so can't comment on the grip but very pleased with the blade. Stands up to a lot more rough camping jobs (battoning etc.) better than anything else I've had.

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Spydercucks just jelly sog has a better lock

>>32688787
>>32688832
That's pretty much how I feel
His low profile flippers are amazing (and he made some front flippers a long while ago) that were impressive. And he makes his own multi row bearings
That's also super impressive
>>32688984
I had a brous blades silent soldier flipper
Felt great in the hand and alright in the pocket,. And I liked it design wise
But I didn't like the knife for me
It didn't fit. I don't need the extra grip from the hole and it just makes it slightly more cumbersome. To open and do quick cuts and put away

The grind on the blade was also rediculously thick for it being such a little blade
Though it did flip like a dream push button
Couldn't light switch it to save your life,.
Also the flipper was designed wrong imho
It's designed and looks like a light switch flipper.
Feels good for a light switch flipper
But won't light switch flipper

But if you put your finger directly on the little tiny uncomfortable point and push button you'll be blown away
(With a slightly sore finger)

The handle scale was also sharp on the lockback side because he has them down so thin to make up for the rest of the knives chunkyness

>>32688452

There is nothing you should ever be doing with a knife that a 2mm spine Mora cannot handle. Thicker than that is just throwing away cutting ability for no reason.

>>32686501

Maybe because that entire design looks like ergonomics and utility as a cutting tool didn't even make the list of design criteria? But it LOOKS COOL!

>>32688835

[Citation needed]

>>32690272
When technology matures it's no longer about what is best at a certain task, and art is allowed to move in. There are a lot of custom knives that would make terrible workhorses but are still pleasing to the eye and are interesting to handle. That doesn't make them mall ninja. They're just more artistic and boutique than a utility knife.

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Looking into a leatherman signal for outdoor use. Anyone here have one?

>>32671422
How good are old Emerson Commanders?

>>32690402

You are the personification of ZTs target demographic.

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Decided not to get a Spyderco. Going to get something similar to this instead.

>>32690550
Ok

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>>32671422
I know this is more of a tactical thread but w2c a non shit Bowie?

>>32690789
Bladeforums. You can find all kinds of production "Bowies" in name only. At least makers on bladeforums most of the time try to recreate a legit Bowie instead of a clip point and call it a Bowie.

>>32690575

Spyderco Roc Cleaver?

>>32691231
A field scalpel. Getting one with a drop point style instead.

>>32690164
I own that knife and it sucks dick, tons of blade play.

>thread has gotten worse
What a surprise

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>>32690416
Don't fall for memes. Get a surge.

>>32691484
The wave is great too.

Looking for a good pocket/boot knife 12 cm max blade length no folding. I'm going to Germany in July and none of my kershaws meet the standards

>>32691773
Esee Izula 2. 2" (6cm) blade length, available in both 1095 carbon and some unknown stainless steel, comes with sheath. Good for both pocket and boot carry.

>>32691773
Does Germany not allow folding knives?

>>32692472
No. And carry blade length is 12 cm.

>>32691773
You won't even need a knife unless you're in the southern part of Germany where all the Turks are.

>>32690164
Damn shame there knife designs suck.they all feel blocky and unnatural.spyderco at least makes their knifes nice and comfy.every is where it should and easy to access.

>>32688984i dislike brous because. The first bionic sucked ass.sharp edges on the handle and even the liner.thing could not flip as well as my crkt shenanigan.then the price is a little absurd for d2.then in the second rendition of the bionic same problems,and with an extremly early lock up,because "thats what you asked for"

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Finnfag here. Considering buying balisong/butterfly knife (pic. Related) any oppinions/advice? Also random unrelated question: are balisongs usable as a CC blade in the US or other countries? For what I know there is no blade that you can carry legally in Finland so I thought I'd ask.

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Diy Dietz flipper modded broker kwaiken
Also loosened lockback tention for a weaker detent
I also recentered the micarta scale after this picture was taken because it was bugging me

>>32693442
That's a terrible knife. If you're on a budget and really want a bali it's a bali but it's total shit. Unfortunately good balis usually cost a good but. Also are you buying this for general edc use or to play with and flip?

>>32693442
>75 Euro

I'll send you that 25 dollar knife for only 65 Euro!

>>32690272
>Maybe because that entire design looks like ergonomics and utility as a cutting tool didn't even make the list of design criteria?
Maybe you should try holding it before judging how it feels?

>>32690272
Target pistol grips look weird as fuck and no way in particular comfortable at first glance, but they're custom fitted to be held in the most optimally comfortable way. How about you not judge a book by it's cover. Besides, ergonomics are different for everyone. One of my friends has massive bear paws, and I have little baby twink hands. A knife that seems uncomfortable and undersized to him could be perfect to me.

>>32689197
No.damn things can barely flip.

>>32694119
>>32694157

Yes, I'm sure that despite looking like it was designed by someone who has never seen a human hand, that it is extremely comfortable.

That's why you often see fixed blade knives with similar looking handles get praised for their ergonomics...Oh wait, no, you are just ass lasted ZT pocket JEWelry buying faggots.

>>32694196

*Blasted

>>32689197
For being one of the knives that launched flippers into the mainstream knife industry, the damn thing flips like shit.

>>32694196
I bet you wear cargo pants. You'll grow out of it. Hopefully.

>>32694196
If you want to complain about the look, go to GTC instead of ZT. ZT just made a cheaper version of what's already there. Considering that GTC Airbornes also sell like hotcakes, maybe you could think that other people like things that you don't.

>>32677851

What's that? Looks real nice for backpacking.

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I got into building DIY electronics, any folding/pocket knife recommendations? Are there Swiss army knives for these kind of things or is there a dedicated electronics knife?

>>32694259
>I've never been backpacking before: the post
No experienced backpacker would scratch their head and say, "you know what I need, a machete for backpacking, except make it weigh 5 pounds and be way thicker than it needs to"

>>32694344

Yeah, you're right desu. I've only been out a few times but never made a shelter for myself, so I was looking for something other than an axe.

>>32694259
Ontario sp8

>>32694358

How the fuck did 'actually' change itself out to 'desu'??? The fuck??

>>32694365

thank

>>32694377
Word filters.

>>32693442
Terä-asekeskus is usually heavily overpriced, and carries some seriously shit mallninja crap and tries to sell it in good faith as useable knives. Lamnia is always cheaper except a few rare instances.

Use Lamnia, it's cheaper and has a better selection

>>32691288
I believe the tridents are made in china. I didn't experience that with mine, but I only owned one for 5 months before it was stolen.
>>32692720
*they're
I'm sad to hear that comrade. I understand though, I hate the thumbstuds on kershits. Too damn small

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9sVmqujoFYQ&feature=youtu.be

New Spyderco's. Looking forward to the new Caribbean series. If the price is right I may have a knife in lc200 n steel.

>>32693442
>finnfag
Need finn ystävä

I got a bear ops as a cheaper option from benchmade. It's alright, but I wouldn't suggest 440. I got sandvik12, I think. If you are looking for more expensive knives you might consider getting a microtech.
All knives are legal to open/conceal in my state except ballistics. Some states just limit length.

>>32694358
>made a shelter for myself
Please don't do this unless it's on private land or you're in an emergency situation.
>bushcrafters

>>32690789
How much do you want to spend?

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>>32694612
>Caribbean
>LC200n
>3mm spine
>Decent distal taper
>compression lock
>G10 handle scales

Wasn't expecting another model I'd like THIS much so soon in LC200n.

>>32692472
Folding is okay with restrictions.
>one handed opening non-locking folder okay
>two handed opening locking folder okay
>one handed opening locking folder needs a specific reason to carry, like camping or carpentry work

>>32695068
It's been in the works for awhile, drake-senpai.

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>>32690416
>>32691484
Have to agree here, I see no benefit with the similarly priced signal. Surge better imo.
>>32691527
Not this anon, but have been carrying a wave for over twenty years. For my business its a best. Boils down to what you're doing in them outdoors and how often. You can hang a whistle on a necklace or keychain and who doesn't already have a half dozen fire starting implements in their kit?

>>32695068
I mainly like the size of it and the fact it's not pure yellow.

>>32672572
An easy sperg trigger

>>32695090
>>32695164

Either of you happen to know how long the blade is or what the cutting edge length is on the Caribbean?

>>32695068
im somewhat liking the sliver, but something about the looks are offputting
id rather have the ouroboros, even though its only vg10
can do a washer swap myself

>>32695068
>compression lock
Ooh. I'm def getting the Caribbean now

>>32694612
>All this knives and the only that looks good is the dragonfly
Git gud, spydercucks.

>>32698580

Chapparel looks good too.

>>32698580
>looks good
Subjective. What's there to git gud at when it comes to Spyderco? Already got Bitchmade beat on prices, materials, and QC, what does Bitchmade have going for them? Utilitarian/boring, overpriced knives with horrid QC? Y'all need to git gud at choosing better brands

Should I wait for the next thread to post my knife I got the other day?

>>32689197
Don't listen to those other guys, the older models had problems but the gen 4s are great flippers. The blade needs to be sharpened as it comes a little wedgie from the factor, but once you do that it's a fantastic knife.

Am I the only one bothered how high spydercos prices have skyrocketed these days? Vg10 funkydesing knives for 300$ and so on

>>32699629
>Should I wait over 100 posts or are you guys paying enough attention to me now that I can post my knife and you'll give me attention? Guys attention?

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>>32700482
>>32699629
FINE JEEZ

>>32700513
shit

Hello please can you help me?

What is a good small to medium sized pocket knife with a slipjoint or lockback design? With maybe 3 inches of blade size.

Most pocket knives now for sale are one handed opening knives and they spook white liberal urban bourgeois around me.

I dont want to spend more than $50 usd

Thank you for consideration.

>>32700513
a fucking over priced railroad spike knife? that's what this is was about? ffs. they suck, and are literally babies first blacksmithing project.

>>32700577
>they spook white liberal urban bourgeois
and?

>I dont want to spend more than $50 usd
oh, you're self conscious about being poor, I get it.

just buy a Case Sodbuster Jr or something and gtfo

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>>32700647
Is this any better?

Same seller, on its way to me.

>>32700662
Is this trying to be a kitchen knife or a machete? It's way too fucking big, the entire blade shouldn't be bigger than the ricasso behind the bevel. Have fun with the tip snapping too.

>>32700577
Buy a carbon steel opinel if you're that poor.

>>32700577
Unironically a SAK would be a good choice in your situation.

>>32700577
Swiss Army knife, sodbuster jr. an old camillus no8 if you can find one, a buck stockman, old timer makes some slippes

>>32700727
You seem to know your blades. I actually enjoy the harsh, yet constructive, criticism.

Where would you recommend to get an old-worldly blade like that which isn't $500 and is not flawed?

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Is it true you're not supposed to blue blades that may be used for food prep/eating? Specifically carbon blades?

Pic not mine, just an example of a blued knife.

>>32700577
you wont find a stronger lockback than a cold steel triad

>>32700980
Yep, both cold and hot bluing chemicals are pretty hazardous so its not done for that reason and any trace amounts of it being elsewhere on the knife.
Admittedly, its a really tiny amount of metal + chemicals that comes in contact with food during prep and a couple of slices with your old blued bush knife while camping isn't going to knock anything off your lifespan, but its generally a risk most professional food processors and kitchens aren't going to take.

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Considering ordering a Svord Von Tempsky Bowie 11'
Anyone here own one?

>>32693442
Mulla on sulle brs barebones 200e espoossa

>>32703172

eri anoni mutta miten/mistä oot saanu moisen aarteen maahan?

>literal edgelord thread

I really want a caly 3 or similar, but there's nothing but sprints. I love my ukpk, but I want something that locks.

>>32702787
>Just watched Hickok video

Bought a Gerber MP600 for $25. Did I do good?

>>32703172
Oletko sama jäbä jolla myynnissa spydercoja huudossa?

>>32704132
>Gerber
Nope, you overpaid for $0.50 worth of cheap steel and plastic. Return it and buy a Spyderco or Ontario or something

>>32704087
So something small with a lock? Try the Ladybug, Manbug, Dragonfly, or wait for the new Caly to be released.

>>32693442
Balisong fag here. Don't buy anything Bear & Sons or Bear Ops. If you're looking to get something good but cheap get the BBBarfly, it's $25 flips well and holds up for a while, but if you want an actual knife get a BRS BareBones or Benchmade 51. Yes, they are totally usable as carry knives, it just takes a bit of getting used to.

>>32678118
i definitely need to pick up the 2017 version as soon as it comes out

>>32704233
The MP600 is a multitool, not a knife, and it's a good tool. I'm a Victorinox guy but $25 for an MP600 is pretty good.

>>32689197
>tfw not related to ant man
WOW, is that an Emerson??? Whew I realize times can be bad, but did they really need to lay-off the entire QC wing!
>>32700577
O boy, here we go...
><fittay dollareedoos
Toss another dub onto your budget and check out a delica4 w/wave opener. Compact, low-cost, unassuming yet lethal and, best of all a best, damn SEXXXY!
>ooowwwmaaayyygggaaawwwddd how many babays have you killed with that knife anon
W-w-wat? That's the handy harmless bottle opener feature you regressive fag-tarded neo-lib twink. Here, allow me to open your corona light, see?

>>32700577
Get an Alox Swiss Army Knife. The Pioneer X has a really good EDC tool selection and it won't scare the normies.

>>32704640
kek I have a wave delica and like it but it terrifies plebs like nothing else. Something about the Spyderhole sparks terror in non knife people for some reason.

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>>32700950

The blade seems fine and I overreacted, but the blade size should be considerably smaller for utility, unless of course that it IS designed as a kitchen knife/cleaver/machete or something.

Since the blade width is so large, the tip angle will have to be comparably more acute which makes it more fragile.

Pic related would be enough in my opinion to make it a more than functional, excellent camping knife

>>32688774
love them, they are my primary knives i rotate from

theyre spectacular

>>32704272
Why do people keep suggesting trainers when someone asks for a cheap balisong? Trainers aren't fucking knives.

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>>32704967
>little scarry black knives
>awwww yor derricah kirrah likah godzirrah aaaaahhhhh
>libtards gonna libtard
Socalfag knows this maaaannnn. 'Tis shocking to most how lightning quick that blade can be pressing into the supple skin of the neck. (Not recommended as a bar trick)
>muh chilluns
#1 was donated to charity, #2 grew legs, #3 was edc 'til 6mos. ago, #4 blue g10 for when I play dress up. Totin a garden variety p2 these days, but every now and again the delica wave gets to roll with pops.

>>32705547

Was this post meant to sound maximum autistic?