/ktg/ Knife Thread General #67, Carbon Steel edition

OP's side note: apologies if pic res is shit, I'm a mobilefag. Also recommend me small fixed blades that are made of carbon or decent stainless/semi-stainless/supersteels for EDC.

Someone last thread asked me about the Svord bowies and their handles. I honestly think that they are pretty cosy, the only thing that I did was sand them down a little.

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>>32564418
Cleaned up my bk16 a bit tonight

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>>32564139
Same knife, different thread

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>>32564139
1095 is the most common 10XX steel (or "high carbon" steel) used for knife blades. Steel in the range 1045-1095 are used for knife blades, although 1050 is more commonly seen in swords. 1045 steel has less carbon (.45%), where 1095 has more (.95%), inversely 1095 has less manganese and 1045 has more. So in essence, 1095 steel would have more wear resistance, but would also be less tough. 1045 holds an okay edge, 1095 steel holds an edge great, and is easy to sharpen. The major drawback to this type of steel is that it rusts easily. Because of this issue, you will often see 1095 blades with some type of coating to combat rust. If you buy a knife with this type of blade, be sure to store it well and you should have no problem. webm unrelated.

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Plus a buck 55 that I edc

>>32564463
Rust is a-ok just take a bit of sand paper or steel wool if you've slacked in your applications of mineral oil

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>>32564439
Neat

>>32564489
Yeah brother. Bk14,15,16 and 2 over here. The 2 is pretty underrated. As long as you have the muscle, it can do what you want. It just takes some strength but it won't fail you.

>>32564509
>he unironically thinks that bk2 is good

thanks, mate, I havent laughed this hard in a while.

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I've got one of these and its a great knife, doesn't cost a fortune either

>>32564489

Terrible taste

What are some good M16 bayonets for less than $100?

Does such a thing exist that isn't Chinese made or S&W trash?

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>>32565818
I know right

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First snow of the season here in MS. Decided to take it out and play with it innawoods.

>>32565870
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001CL8L9I/ref=pd_aw_sim_200_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=M1DFNRJ1F7ANBSMMV9CJ

It's like people can't even google.

>>32564161
most of boker plus's fixed blades are 440c and solid as fuck. personal favorite is the rhino, have also heard good things about the prymate and the nessimi.

>>32564161
>>32566819 again, forgot that spyderco came out with the enuff series in vg10 which I've heard good things about but that's if you like multi directional FRN. they do come with nice sheaths and clips though.

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Here again to answer questions related to knives or knife use

>>32564478
Love the 055

How do you guys store your knife collections?

>>32567120
desk drawer. they're in my apartment, i dont have any nearby sources of moisture or fire risks, and buying a pelican for 14 knives, most under 100 dollars seems kinda dumb. just maintain them regularly.

>>32567132

I was looking to get a pelican case to put some benchmades in. Is it worth it you think if you have some knives worth like $200+?

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Here's mine
>>32565870

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is the gay bar a meme

>>32564463
I was aware of the rust issue, it's not a problem where I live because it's very very dry and I know how to properly treat for rust. Thanks for the info. I'm sorta looking for some comparisons to regular folder steels (S30V, VG-10, ZDP-189, etc).
>>32567009
Good carbon steels? Good fixed blades?

>>32567367

Yes but it's not useless

>>32567380

I dont like carbon steels over modern stainless. All the usual suspects are good I guess. All my carbon steel knives are mostly traditional knives from different places of the world.

There are thousands of good fixed blades. Carothers is up top or around

>>32566819
>440C
I don't have any experience actually using this steel, but isn't it basically a lesser version of 154CM? If so, I'm not interested, especially with Boker's reputation.
>>32566833
I can get behind Spyderco but not too happy about the FRN or the VG-10. I'll see if I can handle one next time I make the trek to BladeHQ, see what I think of it.

>>32567400

440c is a very popular steel in Europe.

Entrek makes great 440c knives, so does Dawson

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Carbon steel?
Esee
Nuff said

>>32567437

Overrated imo according to internet oppinion

They're good 7/10 knives. Das it

>>32567449

You're paying extra for the warranty. If you don't care for that shit, go with a becker. If warranty is some thing to you, you want a pretty decent knife, go with Esee.

Snapped my Esee 6 while using it as a pry bar. Sent it in and they sent me a brand new one. They knew how I broke it too, no fucks were given.

>>32567552

I also think the warranty of ESEE knives is overrated.

It's one of the first things they tell you and a pillar of their marketing, yet most of the high end knives and custom makers also offer the same warranty without publisizing it as much.

I think ESEE markets their knives at plebs, thats why they market them the way they do.

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What are some essential folding knives to have in a collection? Mostly that are EDC-able, not just for making pictures of it for a Nigerian claymation BBS.

Pic unsure if related.

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>>32568008

I think the emissary looks fucking gorgeous and it can be a good EDC knife if you can carry >3 inch blades. the 940 Osborne is also considered a very good EDC knife. Another good EDC knife is the spyderco paramilitary 2.

There are a ton of collectible EDC knives, the only problem is a lot of them from benchmade, spyderco, etc are expensive as hell.

>>32568084
>3 inch
I'm not sure how much that is but in muh country 80mm and below has zero restrictions, so it's the comfiest and most hassle-free size for EDC.

>>32567449
It's not just the knife strength
It's the fact that they come with the best IWB sheath and perfect retention straight out of the box. Here in bongistan they are $160 ish. They are expensive. Can't really get better here for the same money.

>>32568108

The emissary has a blade of 3.45 inches (87mm). Is it only blade length restrictions greater than 80mm can you carry auto knives?

>>32567437
Heard good things but $70 seems like a lot for 2 inches of 1095 on the Izula. I don't have any fixed blades to EDC.
>>32568008
Spyderco Paramilitary 2 or Benchmade 940-1501

>>32568084
Okay I should have specified that I mean knives that don't cost as much as a cold war handgun.

>>32568158
Autos are pretty much illegal to own, but this is barely enforced. Just don't get caught with one in your pocket. Also +80mm isn't exactly outlawed they just can't be carried unrestricted and openly without some special license. I can't remember the exact law, but they're labeled "object dangerous to public safety", with contains things like telescopic batons, knuckle-dusters, lockpicks, crossbows, nunchucks, harpoon guns and such.

>>32568225

The Spyderco Paramility 2 is probably the best option to start with, in the U.S you can find them around $100+. I know with some knife companies they go full retard with pricing to other countries though.

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Why does basically every knife with a hybrid blade get the serration placement wrong? Pic related gets it spot on, you put the straight edge for push cutting next to the handle because that's where your thumb applies pressure, ypu put the serrations away from the handles for better grip when slicing, not the other way around.

>>32568264

The PM2 is a huge folder.

>>32568422

it is 3.078 " (78 mm) so not restricted where anon lives to carry

>>32568471
Blade length is not the only size a knife has.

>>32568008
I really like the Mercator for edc.

>>32568297
I love the serration placement on these.

>>32568471

That's the edge. The entire blade is 3.5". The para 3 would be a better choice.

>>32568008
Depends on your budget. If you're loaded the answer is unironically the Chris Reeve Sebenza.

More realistically, I'd say the Spyderco Delica or Native and Benchmade Mini Griptillian. I recently got a Lionsteel TRE and love it, but that's a more expensive knife and not one of the "standard" knives that everybody owns.

>>32564139
Hello Knife General. I need an innawoods knife. Specifically, a fixed-blade with a longer blade (KA-BAR ish). My price range is ~$50. Appreciate any help!

>>32569811
>a fixed-blade with a longer blade (KA-BAR ish).
lol no you don't

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Why don't people develop patina on their katanas? Why all this autism with having to constantly oil the blade?

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>>32569811
the Aus8 cold steel SRK is good for what it is.

>>32570142

Carbon V is the superior choice

3V as well

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>>32569811
and then there is the glock. but you'll need to file a spoot on the back to a dedicated 90° edge if you want to use firesteels with it - else the back is just too rounded.

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>>32567437

I have one of these

Pretty underwhelming and uncomfortable. Amateurishly ground. Nice tip though.

7/10

>>32570142
Looked at some videos online about it, looks great. Thanks for the help.

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>>32570181
point is though, if you haven't needed a knife so far, you'll probably be fine with a cheap mora bushcraft or companion

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Sister got me this for Christmas. How'd she do?

>>32570243

Pretty bad, she spent shit on your gift

>>32570243
cute. hug her and buy her something nice next occasion. it's not a good knife or expensive but it's a thoughful gift.

>>32570251
She's poor so anything was very nice
>>32570257
I know it's cheap, but how reliable is it for being $15?

>>32570303
>I know it's cheap, but how reliable is it for being $15?
reliable? dunno. but the poor hunting guides in romania and hungary all use that type of knife, albeit not pinels. just keep it as a nice trinket. you can get a balls to the wall mora for 20 for actual use.

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>>32570171

Why is it so fucking hard to find the FM 78 glock knife (the one without the saw teeth).

Its sold out fucking everywhere.

>>32570544

I have one, it's shit.

The pic is fake as well. Real glock knives come with no tip due to shit qc at the factory and a much thicker shinier coat.

Dont worry you arent missing anything.

>>32570110
High polish+oil is more rust resistant than just a patina by itself.

>>32570243
It's a good knife for the price. It'll outcut more expensive knives with better steels due to its good blade geometry.

>>32564139
Microtech guy and SOG stay out
This is a crap thread with crap contributions by crap people, but at least they arent here

>>32570303

go watch Mors talking about his knives. Opinels are good - especially the carbon steel models, but stainless is decent too. Great blade geometry, easy to sharpen and take a wicked, hair-popping edge easily.

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>When you get a razor edge from sharpening a knife against an upside down coffee mug

I fucking love swiss army knives, so easy to maintain

http://www.kniferights.org/KOPA2017.pdf

There is a bill in place now to repeal the 1958 switchblade law and allow safe passage with all knives like with guns. I really hope this is gets passed.

>>32570243
She deserves a good dicking

>>32570992
She just had a baby a month ago

>>32571558

Which means she hasn't had sex for at least the last month. Go get her, tiger.

>>32567394
Your go to knives then?

Would it be dumb if I shortened the length of my rat 3? Or should I just sell it?

>>32567053
Sent it and my 112 back to the factory. My 55 had terrible blade wobble, even after getting a different one from the store I got it from. They better actually live up to their name. And my 112 had a big gap in the back of the lock bar

>>32570544
Discontinued I think

>>32570243
What steel does it use?

Can someone redpill me on Ganzo brand knives?
I'm looking at the Ganzo G720 as a cheap EDC

>>32573712
Never heard of them

>>32573712

pretty self explanatory, chinese frankenstein knives or straight up copies. I have the pm2 copy with axis and it's okay. The axis is lock is as tight a virgin's buttwhole

>>32570573
The Austrian army has an identical glock field knife, different brand and this is it

>>32573850
alright, thanks anon

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should i buy this knife y/n ive been using a discontinued gerber folding knife for years and its alright but not amazing

Columbia River Knife and Tool's M16-14SF Big Dog Aluminum Tanto Blade Combo Edge Knife

>>32574469

n

>>32570243
Opinels are probably the most well-made knives you can get for 15 bucks.
Your sister deserves a hug and a thank you.

>>32574469
>tanto
>combo edge
>$65
Definitely not. Spend that money on a Kershaw if you like flippers, or spend a bit more and get a Benchmade Griptilian.
CRKT is good when cheap, but prices like that start to compete with better products from companies like Benchmade or Spyderco.

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>>32575075
looks like this could be a winner. spyderco knives are hideous and yes i like flippers

Kershaw 1660CBBW Leek with Composite Blackwash Blade

>>32567009
Gonna need sauce on that blade senpai

>>32571558
You can make her spray milk out of her boobs when she cums, just like in those Japanese cartoons.

>>32575414

>>32575414

A special version of a Dawson Raider that they dont make anymore

Dawson Knives are all muh dick knives

>>32571558
So fuck the baby too? I don't know why you told me this.

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Wanna get a G3 bayonet for making my G3 pretty and as a general usage fixed long knife. Is this ok or should I go for something a bit fancier?

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Rate my shitty collection of knifes

>>32577518
Why even bother having these/10

>>32577518
>Rate my shitty collection of knifes

Why the fuck would you collect tools/10

Do you collect screwdrivers and hammers to?

>>32577842
i dont like to buy new expensive knifes because i know i will only ruin them, thats why i buy used knifes. but just because they are used and cheap dont mean they are not great tools.
>>32577876
becuase i will use them as tools not weapons.
i only have a few screwdrivers, 2 hammers

Eating steak with my Spyderco Civilian makes it taste better

You can't prove me wrong

>>32577518

>Moras

Mein Negro

I recently had a chance to use my pocket knife for the first time, in a practical way, and damn, it's uncomfortable. I was cutting carrots, after moving to a new place, because it turned out there was no knife in the kitchen.
What /k/nife would be good for culinary use, that I could also have as an everyday carry?

>>32578119

Flat ground shit

A flat ground Spyderco Endura or Delica would offer cutting ability like a kitchen knife whilst still be strong enough for EDC

>>32578119
A kitchen knife

>>32577876
That does raise a good question, what part of the human mind and society likes knives so much that it created a huge industry of various sharp tools, even going so far to have custom-made ones worth thousands of dollars?
Is there some alternate reality where Earth is filled with custom, finely-made hammers?

>>32577951
The whole point of buying knives worth more than 15 bucks is that they dont get ruined with use. In fact, the opposite of what you believe is true. Cheap knives break, expensive knives dont. You collect cheap knives because you dont know shit about shit.

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>>32578119
Spyderco caly 3.5.
I love mine for food prep, in fact thats about all it is used for.

>>32578719
they are cheap because they are used not because they are shit, if i were to buy the same knifes brand new they would cost substantially more. and the fact that not a single of my knifes has broke after years of useage innawoods kinda proves that

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>>32570243
If her goal was to get you a practical knife she did outstanding. The knife fails as a weapon but it is a wonderful knife to carry daily for peeling fruit, opening boxes, etc. and they are very easy to personalize/cheap to have personalized.

I hope you bought her something nice too. I felt like a jerk when my sis gave me a personalized Leatherman this year.

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>>32579020

>>32579093
You a farmer bro or something?

>>32579229
Hes that guy that does pokemon go rage vids on youtube

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Not carbon steel but is a boot knife ever not autistic? Ive carried one for years and its just become habit
Used to live in a hyoer liberal city where cops would question people obviously carrying a knofe even tho it was legal. This one's a bit of a goto as sont intend on knife fighting, just getting someone iff me

>>32579341
So what's the reason to wear a knife on your boot and not your belt?
I've always refrained from boot knives because I thought it's quite awkward to bend down and grab it.

>>32579468
Job required tucking shirt, theyre awkward to grab but its not very inconvenient to have it here. Now i have a folder or other fixed blade but its justa a habit to keep this boot knife

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This is a CRKT Obake I got at Wally world for $31. Did I do ok?

>>32579702
Could do worse
Crkt steel is garbo
Especially since you arent neck knifing it, theres better choices

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>>32579748
I read that it was some kind of "13MOV" blah blah steel from China. I thought it'd be an interesting looking peice and not be total garbage.

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>>32579798
Any $31 knife is garbage.
Id either take high carbon steels, or in stainless, atleast vg10
154cm is garbo and shouldnt be on knives at the price of benchmade.
My edc knives (the 2 i switch between) are s30v or m390. Pic related

>>32578719
yeah i bought a bunch of those retarded tac-force knives when i was a dumbass teenager and later i learned that having 1 or 2 nice knives is infinitely better than a bunch of shitty ones

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>tfw in love with Yakut knives
>tfw real ones cost a fortune

>>32579798

It's not VG-10, but it works.

>>32579828

>31 dollars is garbage

A Mora Companion for ~20 would like a word with you

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>>32579828
here's another recent buy, a Silver Stag made of D2. Just so you know I'm not completely stupid.

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>>32580211

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Found this baby at a flea market the other day. Was a nice find. The steel seems to be decent quality and the handle is real horn, but overall, its seen better days.
Is there a way to refurbish the blade? I'm not expecting to keep the engravings or anything, but I want to remove the corrosion at least.

>>32564487
>Rust is a-ok just take a bit of sand paper or steel wool if you've slacked in your applications of mineral oil
Hate to be your knife, sand paper &steel wool ruin what they touch.
Use real copper penny or copper pipe ,rub to remove rust.softer that steel won't damage.

>>32564478
thought to myself that you're sharps, then i realized the lack of emerson opener spyderco.

i guess everyone likes brass knuckles

>>32580074
Value doesnt mean good
>>32580211
Im not sure what i dont like about that but i dont

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>>32580776
They're neat

>>32580264
Try some soft scotchbrite or an oily rag

>>32574469
No, just get one of their cheap ones instead. I really like my CKRT folder but I wouldn't spend more than $30-35 on one.

M16-O1KS

>>32579341
>is a boot knife ever not autistic?

No. Completely autistic.

>>32579702
Are you a gentlesir?


That handle is 1000% autistic weeb.

>>32570573
>>32570544
>>32570171
Glock have shit steel. Soft, around 54. It have shit grind. It have shit paint, that fall off after first hard use and blade start rusting.
Get Ontario SP43.

>>32579828
154CM isn't that bad, it's about on par with VG10. I think it's acceptable at the Griptillian price point. I agree that BM puts it on knives that are too expensive for it, though.

My real complaint with BM is all the damn S30V. I mean, yeah, it's a decent steel, but it doesn't belong on >$150 knives anymore and yet pretty much the entire '17 line is made with it. Pretty ridiculous when you can get all M390, S110V, all kinds of exotic tool steels on sprint Spydercos, etc. for less than you'd pay for many S30V BMs.

Hey, just found out base exchange offers discounts on tactical Benchmade and spyderco offers discounts for military, Leo, and first responders. Emailing Spyderco to see if I qualify. If it gives enough of a discount I'll go ahead and get a spydiechef.

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Hey anons

Anyone happen to know what knife this is? Caught my eye watching a show and I thought I remembered seeing it flipping through a manufacturers catalog recently, don't remember what/ who though.

Thoughts? (Not worried about it being a shit knife, just curious WHICH knife.)

>>32583055

For benchmade it is 30% off plus you can order automatics from them.

>>32580816
The rest of my shit. Minus the Obake
http://i.imgur.com/h5DVLOA.jpg

How to sharpen knives?

have a K31 bayonet, want to sharpen it up real nice

has an all metal sheath, so how does one go about making/getting a sheath that wont dull it every time you take it out?

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Explain to me why you do not already have a Cold Steel ESPADA XL with polished g-10 and aluminum bolsters as your EDC tactical blade.
Reasons why your EDC "knife" is inferior:
>Doesn't have over a foot of reach
>Has a lock that can't hold 600lbs
>Is about as sexy as a toaster oven wearing heels
>Probably isn't hair-whittling sharp
>Cannot be deployed out of pocket in a single fluid motion
>Has shit ergos
>Cannot be easily and comfortably concealed.
Congratulations to the few of you who actually carry a knife that exceeds ALL of the above criteria; I'm impressed. The rest of you faggots need to step the fuck up and go buy a Cold Steel ESPADA XL.

Microtech guy and sog stay out.
This is my turf.
Attention whore elsewhere

>>32584481
Buy a 200 dollar sharpener

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwCbV4DFZ7E

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Any recommendations on boot knives? I've modified a sheath for my little Kabar but its not really ideal.

>>32584481
Don't bother, bayonets are horrible knives. They're made out of soft steel that won't hold an edge worth a damn, the blade geometry sucks for cutting, and the handles are undersized and uncomfortable for serious use. They're made to be thrusting weapons, not utility blades. You also risk ruining it as a historical artifact by trying to make it into a knife.

I learned these lessons the hard way, trying to make a knife out of a 1917 bayonet. (Which had already been cut down in somebody else's attempt to do the same, so nothing of value was lost.)

Let bayonets be bayonets and get a real fixed-blade knife if you don't already have one.

>>32584873

What the hell is this hack job? How big are your boots that you can carry that?

>>32585301
Lol basically an experiment to see if I liked carrying a boot knife. Belt sheath with a strap and buckle through the loop to secure to my calf. It fits in my boots fine but retention was a problem. The button clasp would come undone and just idea would fall out and stab holes in my pants.

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>>32584873
A.G. Russell has a decent affordable boot knife for $50.
https://agrussell.com/knife/3861

If you're willing to pay $100+, you should get a Sting.
https://agrussell.com/knife/197#

>>32585468

I can tell you a way to hold the knife in, but it'd be kinda hard to get the knife out.

>>32583513
I'll have to check with Benchmade afterwards, but when it comes down to it I prefer Spyderco.

>>32584526
Did you ever get your espada fixed?

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Do you people even knife ?

fuck opinels and douk douks, step up.

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>>32583409
HK maybe, post an open picture of it ?

ps. These 2 are for sale

>>32587630
>step up

To overpriced tacticool overly thick behind the factory edge garbage? No thanks.

I prefer knives that are actually good at cutting things and which people aren't afraid to actually fucking use and sharpen.

>>32587717
> being this jealous

>>32567009
Why you need knives? I mean are you a hunter or something?

>>32587630
How are Reates, I only have experience with Kizer but am looking to upgrade with my next paychek

>>32587748
>jealous

I've almost certainly spent more on my sharpening stones than you have on knives.

That has nothing to do with DoukDouks and Opinels being much better at actually cutting things than the massively overpriced tacticool pocket cosplay jewelry with factory edges that were in that picture.

>>32587930
Absolutely stunning and 100% worth it.

>>32588064
"Cutting" yeah couple times till they get dull because of the shit steel.

Accept it, theyre outdated and outperformed by supersteels. I have both, and a K55. They have their place but there are much better and NICER options out there

>>32588145

Define "shit steel", "supersteel", "outperform" "better" and "nicer"

Also, blade geometry counts for a lot more than most people realize. Thin geometry is why people can use kitchen knives for decades without sharpening and they still work (more or less) while dull as shit.

Also, thinner blades and thinner edges require less force to make cuts which reduces the wear they experience relative to thicker blades, so they suffer less from the reduced wear resistance than one might expect.

>>32588145

Oh, also, if they are getting dull after cutting a "couple of times" it's almost certainly because there was a burr or foil edge left after sharpening.

A dollar store kitchen knife in mystery steel should last quite a bit more than 'a few cuts' if sharpened properly.

>>32584526
I carry a large espada occasionally. Mainly for the meme

>>32588238
So youre saying 1050 outperforms M390 in terms of edge retention and rust too ?

We get it, you dont have money. But until you try out steels designed for knives dont go off about your sharpening making a great difference.

Get M390, M4 and some crucible steel to try out, really. And spyderco does make slicy knives for your cutting needs.

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So what's the main reason against buying cheap chinkshit Ebay knives? Shit blade steel? Weak lock, wobble or play? Or something else? Assuming not survival or operational use, just everyday normie EDC.

Pic is just an example, you don't have to talk me out of buying it. Also what camo is that supposed to be, Jordanian?

>>32588434
All of what you mentioned is the reason not to buy used online. Lot of counterfeits out there and youll end up with something from china. And as an arny veteran, your pic makes me puke.

>>32588434
Lol that's fucking marpat

>>32564161
Bradford guardian 3
I personally like the full flat grind version best,
M390 3 inch
horizontal carry belt sheath for best carry

i really dont carry mine enough

>>32588434
All of the above. Spend 50 bucks on knife_swap or bladeforums and get a real spyderco vg-10 endura

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>>32588518
>Lot of counterfeits out there and youll end up with something from china.
That's what I meant. Chinkshit tacticool folders, not used, once good knives.

>>32588575
I'm more into traditional knives, I think I'll just get a Mercator and be done with it, or get a hand made peasant knife from some craftsman.

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>>32588422

Define "edge retention."

If you mean edge retention at nearly stock production folder edge geometry in slicing clean soft abrasive materials like cardboard, rope and carpet, then yes, M390 will be much better.

If you mean edge retention at around 0.010" thick behind the edge in whittling hardwoods or bamboo, then high hardness 1084 or 1095 would be expected to have better edge retention than M390.

If you mean edge retention for use as a large chopping blade chopping through 2x4s, then yes, 1050 will be expected to have much better edge retention than M390.

You see, you operate under the modern marketing driven misconception that wear resistance = edge retention and thus the steels with the highest wear resistance are always better.

In reality cutlery steels are almost never strictly better or worse than each other, each cutlery steel is just one set of properties (apex stability, toughness, wear resistance, cost, grindability, etc.) versus another set. Steels are more or less suited to particular applications, they are not better or worse in an absolute sense.

By the way, pic related isn't even close to all my knives and I've spent a lot more on sharpening stones than knives.

Also, if you think any steel gets dull in just a few cuts it really is almost certainly the sharpening that is at fault (or in very rare cases the heat treatment).

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>>32588532
Looks more like Jordanian, famalamalamadingdong, but not exactly.

>>32570243
That's a good workhorse knife. I work in a paper mill here in Europe and Opinels are what the felt sellers give us workers as their-brand tools.

Their best feature is the easy to sharpen blade. Is a thin blade, mind - not great to use as a chisel or cannot withstand heavy point work, but they can be turned to razor sharpness with just few strokes of a finishing grind stone or just plain wet sandpaper.

In EU they are also very common with people doing whatever outdoor works, because they're good and dependable.

They have an older design so they aren't fast to be unfolded, but the closing system works and is tough.

Since it's an Inox is also an excellent food knife.

I wrote my initials on mine at work, and birchwood'd the handle to cope with the moist environment. Doing great.

>>32579702

I've got an Obake

It works

I use it for fishing as it fillets quite well for a EDC type deal

>>32579702
literal trash, throw it out anon, if you ever tried to defend yourself wit that youd slice your hand open. relagate it to cutting vegetable or get rid of it. in terms of defense its a danger to you

is a fixed blade better than a folding knife for self defense?

fixed blade knives are harder to hide and more cumbersome but are bigger and size means a lot for knives i think. i cant really imagine trying to get a huge bowie out of my pants when im getting hustled by some dindus

>>32587401
Not yet. I'll send it off sooner or later though.

>>32589024
Conceal carry firearm, seriously. Yes, there are knives advertised as self defense use in both folders and fixed (e.g. most Benchmade black box). You're taking a huge risk though physically and legally. It's been argued back and forth in these threads, but in any situation you feel a knife may perhaps save your life a firearm will.

I would carry a knife as a weapon of last resort than a primary. And I do regularly carry fixed blade knives.

>>32588678
What about 420HC? It's not as rust resistant as even S30V, its edge retention isn't as good as S30V, and neither is its wear resistance. It just sucks in general and is beaten by almost every other steel.

>>32589251

I did say "almost never". Though, to be fair s30v is also a lot more expensive than 420HC.

Two better examples would be CTS-BD1 VS 420HC or CTS-BD1 over S30V (BD1 and XHP are pretty much strictly better in all respects than 420HC and s30v, respectively).

Also keep in mind that a large part of the perceived difference between steels is often a difference between the money, care and attention spent on heat treatment and QC rather than inherent differences in the steel.

Just compare 13c26 as (mis)used by Kershaw to AEB-L with a high end heat treat to 62 HTC by a custom maker. The steels are chemically identical yet the real world performance will be totally different because Kershaw is well known to grossly underharden and not to QC their budget knives.

Most people have a certain impression of 440C based on cheap beater knives, yet I have a Calton necker in 440C that behaves almost like a carbon steel at ~62 HTC because the HD was modified to minimize chromium carbide formation and minimize grain size. It behaves nothing like people think "440C" behaves.

>>32589538
Two questions.

What is your full opinion of XHP, your impression of it's best use-case, and comparison of it against other popular steels?

Secondly, how would you suggest getting decent at freehand sharpening? Been trying to sharpen a cheap blade on a waterstone and don't see my technique getting any better Furthermore I certainly don't know much about scratch patterns, burs, etc.

So I'm look for a good innawoods knife and i'm between the rat7 and the esee6, which is the better choice?

>>32589783

From what I've read and heard, XHP has an identical use case to s30v and is a good choice where coarse edges at moderate finishes are going to be mainly used for slicing soft abrasive materials, but where corrosion resistance is required and more toughness and apex stability are required than the ultra high vanadium content steels can provide (i.e. S90v, s110v, 10V, etc are not suitable for cost, brittleness or sharpenability reasons).

As for learning to freehand, watch this video and practice what is shown until you can reliably reproduce the level of sharpness shown at the end of the video off a coarse stone:

https://youtu.be/cWU_qTp3DLM

>>32577518
It's nice, anon. :)

>>32589158
>You're taking a huge risk though physically and legally
>legally

invest in pepper spray if you are worried about this...

>>32564509
Love my Bk9, want a 10, 12, and 16. You can keep the 2 unless it's been reprofiled to FFG.

>>32567367
Kinda. The square shoulder stick tang makes it vulnerable to snapping at the hilt when batoning, but otherwise it's a pretty decent, versatile, tough knife.

>>32564161
ESEE 3 or Ontario RAT-3

>>32590845
It's easier to argue using a firearm for self defense than using a knife and maiming your assailant.

>>32591261
I never understood why. Guy threatens deadly force on me, I use deadly force on him. Shouldn't matter between gun or knife. Intent is the same

>>32589024
Yes, stronger, safer to use, faster to access, and better reach

>>32591367
The intent is the same for you, as the victim, but you'll have to prove to a judge or jury that under the circumstances your choice of weapon and actions were reasonable. They will also take in consideration other factors such as the profile of the assailant, your profile, the situation that led to this encounter, your location, if you had the opportunity to run, if you used only the amount of force necessary (if you restrained, injured, killed, maimed, or executed the assailant). And a whole host of other factors.

That's why firearms are easier to use for self defense. Either you injure or kill an assailant due to being in fear for your life. They're still going to look at other factors, but you shouldn't have to worry about a potential jury questioning the weapon. It's a reasonable choice.

If it comes down to using your knife because there's no other way to defend yourself, then by all means do so. No reasonable person would question that.

>>32591129

If you have bigger hands go for the ESEE 3. I have large hands and my Rat 3 is about half an inch too small at the handle.

>>32591911
Also I would like to stress everyone read up on their local and state laws regarding self defense and, more importantly, case law. This may help you make a final decision on your course of action if you ever get into situation where you may need to defend yourself.

>>32592134
I have both and have fairly large hands as well. Had the blade on the RAT been longer I'd agree, but I generally use it for more delicate stuff than hardcore innawoodsing (I've got a local craftsman's clone of the ESEE 5 for that). I think that for the intended usage the RAT 3 is fine.

>>32592419

The blade on the rat is too long compared to the handle. If it was a little shorter and had a little less depth it would be perfect.

>>32590060
Boker Vox Rold or Esee 6. Rat7 is overkill

Anyone have a good fixed blade knife for the outdoors (good for batoning, etc) that is Texas legal (5 and 1/2 inches or less blade)?

>>32588678
> I talk about pocket knives
> He starts talking about chopping bamboo

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>>32588434
>>32588703
lol, ready for a laugh?

It appears to be Chinese Type 07.

>>32594149

If you have the ability or desire to engage what I said on the merits please feel free to do so.

>>32589158
This.

My philosophy on defensive knives is that they're there to keep an assailant from getting your gun if you get into a grapple or whatever.

>>32588618
now im thinking about getting a mercator. dammit anon.

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Don't know shit about knives and got pic related for camping and shit. How did I do?

>>32596059
Very poorly. Return it and get a Mora for camping.

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If you guys were to fight with a big wolf injected with PEDs and your only have a knife with you, what type of knife would you prefer?

>>32596059
Horridly. Bayonets are already bad for camping, then you add on the Smith & Wesson and you're just salting the wound. Return it ASAP and get a Mora Companion or an Ontario SP1.

>>32596258
Fuck the knife, I'd use a short sword, if that counts. If not, Cold Steel Espada Large G10 in XHP.

>>32594027
Ontario SP2. 1095, 4" blade, decent grind, $50 price tag. Bradford Guardian 4, 4" blade, M390, $150 price tag with the added bonus of corrosion resistance and G10 scales.

>>32564139
>gave my friend a knife as a present
>see it a week later, looks like it was washed down a river, scratched to shit, blunt etc
>ask him about it
>"it wasn't sharp so I sharpened it on a rock"

if it wasn't a mora, I would be mad :^)

>>32596456
Heavy duty or regular?

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Its good after you reprofile it

>>32596456
>>32596495

i wanted one of these ontarios but handle will be too fat for my tiny hands.

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Finally snagged my grail.

>>32596258
One tied onto a long, sturdy stick

>>32596258
The only answer is a fuckhuge Bowie knife or a machete.

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Got the 6 first and have used it for a lot of >batoning but not much else. I was in love with it at first but now I feel like it's just too niche to justify the weight in a backpack. The size lends itself to batoning and light chopping which could more easily be accomplished with a hatchet. Any cutting you do can more easily be accomplished with a smaller, handier knife. Better to have a hatchet for chopping instead of a massive knife that you have to worry about chipping the edge on, and is super sensitive to rust.

Got the Izula II which I figured would be everything I love about the 6 except more handy. Except it rusts like a motherfucker compared to the 6. The 6 mostly just sits in a box neglected and doesn't really have any rust spots. The Izula I keep oiled and work hard to maintain yet I'm constantly having to get rust off the edge and where the logo is. Theoretically they should be the exact same steels but I've had worse results with more effort with the Izula. Esee's world famous customer service told me to piss off.

I think I'll just stick to stainless from now on.

>>32565349
I have two Mora's and they're great. What's the specific name of this one?

Replacing my endura 4 after 3 years.
Pick one for me.
>Benchmade Adamas
>Benchmade Bedlam (860)
>Spyderco Paramilitary 2

>>32597298
>Spyderco Paramilitary 2
duh
what colorway you looking at, son?

>>32597298
Spyderco Paramilitary 2. Either the S110V version or the bentoboxshop exclusive M390 version. Benchmade is overpriced as fuck and their quality control is in the shitter right now. Spyderco's warranty may not be as laid back but the quality of the product makes up for it. And if you're going to have something beefy, have something at least useable.

>>32596860
Snagging a grail is awesome, though I disagree with your tastes. Either way, grats anon.
>>32596526
Kek.

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>>32596059
>Don't know shit about knives and got pic related for camping and shit. How did I do?

HArd to imagine a scenario where you could have done worse. That is a poser knife with no redeeming qualities. Get pick related Mora Companion for 20$.

I'm getting closer and closer to giving in and buying a fucking Sebenza. I guess I'll become the real Seb guy in a month or two...

My cheap knives just shipped.

>>32597298
>>32597338

Don't just automatically buy the s110v or m390 versions over any the other versions.

Which steel you should get the PM2 in depends on how you actually use your knives.

If the vast majority of you use is slicing relatively clean soft abrasive materials like cardboard, rope and carpet, you run relatively coarse edge finishes, and you don't need a lot of toughness, then s110v can be a good choice.

Just make sure you have the sharpening equipment to handle it (i.e. diamond plates or silicon carbide waterstones).

>>32597657
Mora's, despite their cheap price, are great knives. I've got a mora HD companion, with carbon steel blade. Love it. Yes there are better, more expensive options out there, but you didn't do bad at all.

>>32599032
How is the Bushcraft line? Is it worth the price compared to the companion?

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thoughts on the glock knife?

is the spine on the one without the root saw sharp 90 degrees?

>>32597333
Well I was thinking of getting some custom wooden handles in Oak or Cocobolo if possible. I know people out in the world makes them so i'm not worried about color.

>>32599660

dont shoot .40 through it and it will do the job right

>>32597671
Don't do it. If you do, buy it used for less money. $300 is too much. Don't get me wrong, I like the senenza, I think it's a nice knife and I would actually like to have one, but $300+ is ridiculous.

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>>32600696
Kek.

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On the right is my Cold Steel Recon Tanto purchased for $60 back in 1995. Carbon V steel back when they still made em in the U S of A.

>>32600864

Looks about as used as the rest of them.

>>32597657
why is this knife so great? it looks like shit

>>32601537

The ergos are amazing. It's a solid beater. It's $20.

>>32601570
i see

>>32601634
Black one looks much better imo

>>32601570
it's actually 10 bucks at amazon

>>32598786
Agreed, S30V is still a very solid generalist steel that people tend to shit on these days for no reason other than it isn't the latest and greatest super-steel on the block.

>>32599660
>is the spine on the one without the root saw sharp 90 degrees?
not really. youll need to file in a 90° spot if you want to use firsteels with it. the glock is a fighting knife more than a survival knife. the glock sheath however is GOAT.

Is the crkt heiho any good? It looks kinda like weebshit but I do like the handle.

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>>32601537
>>32601570
I don't think it' shit nor does it look bad. it's a bit small though to be a stand alone survival knife. innawoods I usually go with the CS SRK as my primary and have the Mora as a backup or food processing knife (yeah not optimal but it's stainless and easily cleaned, come at me). if oene were to scale up the mora from 2mm thickness and 10cm blade length to 3-4mm thickness and 16cm blade length, it would be a great all around stand alone knife.

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>>32601537
they always have a nice wood handled one

>>32601537
>looks like shit
>looks like
>looks

Do you judge hammers and screwdrivers on their anesthetics as well, you enormous faggot?

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Chris Reeve Yarborough worth the money or are there other knives with the same quality steel, length, etc. as it?

>>32604949

Not really worth it. The 5 inch one is shit.

The Pacific is miles better.

>>32597050
thats what you get for falling for the biggest knife meme of all time

>twice

>>32604949
>>32605014
>Chris Reeve
>worth the money

Not a chance. His FOLDERS as ever priced garbage, paying CRK prices for fixed blades is full retard.

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>>32605137
Batoning is a knife meme?

>>32605163
i dont understand why faggots always flock to CR his products are underwhelming at best, and generally have had their prices inflated to retarded levels. there are dozens of comparable knives and products for half the price

>>32600717
That's exactly what I'm planning on doing. They show up used in the high $200s pretty frequently and I can probably turn around and sell it for what I paid if I decide not to keep it.

Honestly 90% of why I want to get one is just to finally see what all the hype is about, anyway, and to know what people are talking about when they compare other knives to Sebs.

>>32604044
3-4mm is thick as all hell for a knife blade my dude. And 16cm is practically a bowie knife.

3mm/12cm is the optimal size.

>>32608012
I handled a small 21 at BladeHQ. Action had a pretty soft detent, a really gritty middle, and a hollow "clunk" as it opened into the lock. That combined with the thumbstud, I hated the opening. F&F was definitely on point, but honestly I don't see the hype over most ZT's and every Spyderco I've ever seen. One thing I'll give it is the hollow grind and the solid lock. The framelock is the most solid I've ever seen. Still, wouldn't want to use it hard especially considering the finish on the ti handles being really easy to scratch, and the blade being so thin. Speaking of handles, ergos were meh. It just didn't feel "special" like you would expect from a $300 knife. Just felt like I was holding a heavy block of metal, and it is heavy even for the small version. I didn't feel any hot spots or anything so it's definitely useable, but there's no contours or shaping to make it fit in hand nicely or give a real firm grip, but I guess that depends on your hands. I think every version of the Sebenza looks like shit but that's just me. The clip wasn't fantastic, and it has such wide and thick handles that it took up a lot of space in the pocket. So it doesn't make a good beater, it doesn't make a good fighter, it doesn't make a confortable carry, all it does is slice decently well and cost a lot of money. It's like the Mercedes Benz of knives. I'd consider acquring a large 21 at $200-250 but definitely wouldn't buy new. Just my $0.02. Really I wouldn't use it as a comparison knife, I'd use the PM2 or ZT0450 but whatever.

>>32605198
I have no experience in outdoor knives or how to use them, but batoning is definitely a debated topic, mostly a meme on this forum than any others. Some say it's okay to do, others say you're just asking for trouble. Honestly I see it as hugely abusive but if you're without a hatchet then I see why. But people that bring large knives just so they don't have to bring a hatchet seems stupid.

>>32609348
Yeah, I've heard some stuff along those lines.

Still, I just want to try actually owning and carrying one and decide for myself what I think of it. Plus, if I DO end up hating it, I can make a clickbait review video about how overrated it is or whatever.

There's a knife show coming up in my area so I'll probably check one out there, maybe even find a good deal on a used one.

>>32603238
it's not a fighting knife
why not use the cutting edge for the firesteel?
but its a cheap good allrounder

>>32609468
>it's not a fighting knife
it is
>why not use the cutting edge for the firesteel?
doesn't work well
>but its a cheap good allrounder
true. but not a survival knife. I have the sheath filled with grease and the edge polished. it rusts quickly. innawoods you want a good stainless steel.

>>32609014
if I want a stand alone knife, it's better if it's big.

>>32609723
it is a field knife for (working, survival and combat) so not really a fighting or sole combat knife

never had problems with rust on mine if its greased up

>>32605206

They're very good actually.

They cut very well and are aesthetic.

>>32597050

ESEE is very overhyped.

They sell quality PACKAGES (knife+sheath+accessories) for the adventure beginner.

But they all rust like motherfuckers and have a sandpaper coating.

Americans and their fucking 1095 are cunts. Back then carbon steels had the performance advantage, but that was when the stainless knives were those shitty "surgical steel" meme contraptions.

Nowadays stainless steels outperform carbon steels massively, and they dont rust for shit. S30V, 3V, s35vn and even INFI wont rust at all or very, very little and they all can be easily sharpened in the field with a sharpening stone

>>32599660

It's overhyped shit

Doesnt cut for shit and has shit quality control.

Is overpriced as shit compared to what the military buys it for.

Only worth it for collectors, not for use

>>32610220
>They're very good actually.
>They cut very well and are aesthetic.

No. $300 for a 5.5mm thicc partially serrated fixed blade in underhardened s35vn with an unergonomic handle that severely limits the variety of grips it can be used in is not "very good" and they do not "cut very well"

The sad part is that a $20 2mm spine carbon Mora reground to FFG will utterly annihilate that CRK piece of shit at anything except batoning (which is a meme) and corrosion resistance.

>>32610233
>stainless steels outperform carbon steels massively

No, they do not.

Also, describing one style as "outperforming" another in an absolute sense is nonsensical in most cases. That's like saying a marathon runner "outperforms" a sprinter or a power lifter.

Each steel is one particular mix of properties such as wear resistance, apex stability, corrosion resistance, toughness, ease of heat treat, and cost. Different applications require different mixtures of those properties.

For example steels like s30v and s35v strongly favor wear resistance over apex stability and toughness and ease of sharpening, while not having the extreme cost and brittleness of ultra-high carbide content steels.

This makes them a good choice for knives that are going to be used with moderate edge angles, coarse apex finishes, and used for extended periods between sharpenings to slice clean soft abrasive materials like cardboard, carpet and rope.

INFI, by contrast is almost the diametric opposite of s30v in that it is designed with a focus on toughness, apex stability and corrosion resistance, and field sharpenability with wear resistance being minimized (since the way you increase wear resistance tends to decrease toughness and apex stability).

INFI is really an attempt to replicate virtually all the properties of truly tough carbon tool steels while changing only enough to add corrosion resistance.

If you want a stainless knife for innawoods you should stick to steels like AEB-L, 13c26 (NOT Kershaw though), 12c27 (Stainless Moras are made of this I believe), N680, CTS-BD1, etc. In general these types of stainless steels won't be quite as tough as 1095 with a toughness focused heat treatment, but they will stir be MASSIVELY tougher than the wear resistance focused stainless steels that are popular in folding knives.

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What is a good way to sharpen cheap knives that I don't care about too much. I know "get a good knife" but I don't do any outdoors shit. The Leatherman is for doing stuff at my job. I love how you can deploy it and fold it with one hand and it has a screwdriver on the back. The M3 replica is for opening packages around the house and removing mice from traps Bridge on the River Kwai style.

They are both getting dull as fuck. What's the ideal sharpener for making them sharp again even if it scratches them up a bit. I don't really care.

>>32610655
Cheap diamond hones from the hardware stores, avoid using the coarse unless you're completely doing the cutting edge, but the fine and extra-fine grit ones will get a basic edge ok.
After that, sheet of glass, 1000-1200grit wet-dry paper.
Wet the paper, slap it on the glass and use that for the finer work.
You can also get 2000grit if you're feeling particularly keen on it and do the same.
After that I tend to use a leather strop for the last final work to make sure its all good. For some knives I'll also run it through a buffing mop to do a final polish

>>32610655

Buy a Norton India IB8 coarse/fine combination oilstone, some light mineral oil, and practice what you see in this video until you can reliably replicate the sharpness demonstrated at the end of the video:

https://youtu.be/cWU_qTp3DLM

>>32610759
can I use CLP?

>>32610768

Sure, you just need a lubricant on oilstones, and it should be oil based to prevent metal swarf from sticking to the stone, but beyond that it doesn't matter.

>>32565349
the trouble with mora: they're so good and predictable.

you can't argue about this, so 4chan hates them.

>>32610612

They outperform in the sense that they perform much better for me when I'm outdoors and I'd never pick a carbon knife over a stainless one if I had a say.

THe only carbon knives I have and use are traditional knives I buy in the places I go to.

>>32610534

You're very wrong though

300$ is the retail price, you have to be a pleb to not know the adecuate people and places to buuy the things you like. I bought my Pacific for 100$ and my Professional Soldier and Green beret for 70$ each.

The handle is by far not unergonomic. The handle fo the pacific is one of the most comfortable and well balanced I know of of any knife.

And Crhis Reeve is one of the only few manufacturers that does serrations adequately.

The mora is actually comparable to the way chris reeve does its edge geometry. It's a superbly thin edge that cuts very, very well. Coincidentaly they're not great for batoning, so I doubt you know what you're talking about at all.

The Green Beret is not a good knife, but the Pacific is excellent.

I even doubt you own one or ever even tried one yourself, why are you so adamant pretending to know things you dont really know?

Just because you saw that video on youtube?

Are you proud of being part of the internet hivemind?

>>32609723
>innawoods you want a good stainless steel.
you wrong af.

Stainless is perfect for carry and light use. carbon steel is perfect for constant use, which will prevent rust. innawoods, knives get constant use, or at least mine do.

They don't rust, but i'd hate to spend all that time sharpening stainless

>>32610908

Some modern stainless steels dont fit that profile

>>32610930
i'm sure that powerful engineers spent decades developing sno-flak specialties that serve as counterexamples to my point.

but as a rule of thumb: i'm right and u et dicks

>>32610946

What I'm saying is that it is no longer a rule of thumb

You eat dicks or live in the 80's and 90's

>>32610881
>not unergonomic

Yes it is. It isn't even rounded, and the stupid shape forces you to use a limited number of grips. If you look at quality bushcrafting knives they all have rounded handles that can be used in many different grips.

>Mora

Except that CRK openly underhardens its s35vn to 55-57 HRC while Mora hardens it's carbon steel knives to 59-60 HRC.

So s35vn has lower apex stability (much lower in this case as CRK underhardens it), lower toughness despite being softer which is hilarious.

You are literally paying 5x the price for a steel and heat treatment objectively worse for outdoor use.

Add to that the Pacific is 5.5mm at the spine and therefore has a blade geometry as worthy of open mockery as a BK2, and the it includes totally useless and retarded partial serrations and I would take an FFG reground Mora over a Pacific if they were the same price.

The Pacific, like all CRK knives, is designed based on aesthetics to be sold to knife collectors who don't actually use their knives for anything.

>>32610867

So basically you mean that you personally prefer stainless knives for outdoor use, not that they are objectively better.

>>32609723
>>32610908
>>32610930
>>32610946
>>32610959

See

>>32610612

>>32610959
you're superstitious and wrong.

there are two types of people who purchase knives: the first is careful about steel selection, ergonomics, name of designer, color of the moon, the edge geometry, the blood type of the intended target, the local laws, etc. They either do it because it's fun to them or because they have autism/superstition that says everything must be perfect. It doesn't

then there are people who do basic research and buy a good tool for the job. Even if there is a difference, it's an improvement of 1.9 percent.

There has not been any voodoo that really changes the core differences between carbon and stainless steel. If there are, then the changes certainly haven't trickled down into normal knife markets

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>>32611025

No, you are the one who is mistaken.

There are now quite a few stainless steels available that were specifically designed to behave as similarly as possible to carbon steels except with respect to corrosion resistance.

Hell, what's only trickling down to knife makers now are nitrogen steels capable of improving upon the toughness and apex stability of pure carbon steels at a given hardness while being effectively rust proof, such as Spyderco using LC200n and custom makers using Nitrobe-77.

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My carbon steel carry for today.

>>32611025
>buy a good tool for the job
Pretty much.
I've made stainless steel knives, carbon steel knives, tool steel knives etc
The best 440 series stainless knives I've made where on par with most of the 10XX carbon steel knives, both slightly exceeded by O1 and D2 tool steel knives as being some of the toughest, sharpest and durable small blades I've ever made. Its not always a case of material, but the time spent perfecting the heat treating process- even that can even vary by manufacturers, batches of steel by the same manufacturer and variations on the equipment used in the heat treat.

Some of the fancier (and fucking expensive) Crucible steels I've used just didn't work with the manufacturers heat-treat directions and even in correspondence with them didn't have any fucking idea of what they where doing, so had to experiment to finally get an acceptable result. They're not alone in that, but some suppliers are better than others when it comes down to uniformity, I just knock out a couple of blades here and there, it must be a fucking nightmare to do QC on an industrial production run... if they do it at all. Basically, its pot-luck on most mass manufactured blades, you're more likely to get a good one than a dud from most reputable manufacturers, but for some people that doesn't matter too much.
They just need cheap, low maintenance, mostly abuse and something they'll probably throw in a damp corner for several months or run through a dishwasher- stainless does capture that part of the market really well!

By all means, if you work in salty or high humidity environments, stainless will save a lot of issues for people that don't maintain their tools as much. Anything else, carbon steels do just fine, its not like a few drops of water or a dunking is going to turn them into a pile of rust overnight.

>>32611096
Man I love traditionals. Good folding-fedora m'friend.

>>32567748
poorfag mora user detected

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My LGS has one of these H&K OTF automatic knives that seems to be pretty nice.

Anyone ever own one of these, or any H&K knife for that matter?

>>32612228
It actually holds its edge pretty well. I just like rotating different knives and I'm on a traditional binge this week so it's been in my pocket.

>>32612403
HK knives are actually Benchmades (except for the super cheapo ones), so they're pretty decent stuff and generally priced better than similar stuff from the main BM line. Sadly BM killed off the HK knives brand a few months ago, though.

>>32612363

I'd rather have a 2mm spine Mora reground to FFG than an ESEE Izula II, or 3.

Moras are actually stupidly good knives. It's just too bad they don't offer some factory FFG models.

>>32610908
if that's what you prefere than fine. I'd rather have the Mora comp stainless scaled up to Glock FM78 size than the FM78 for innawoods as a stand alone knife. It's great for fighting and basically a cheap blank that you can grind and polish to the shape you desire but it's still not as durable as I'd want meaning the edge will rust dull on you. stainless steel has come a long way since 420....

>>32609348
The sebenza actually has the opposite of a solid frame lock.

I'm a dirty phone poster, so someone post that meme video of the triad lock vs the sebenza lock.

Sebenzas are just shit overall; weak lock, underhardened S35VN, poor ergos (Ti is nice but not particularly comfortable), average deployment, and criminally overpriced for what is offered. Kizer sells better quality Titanium and S35VN knives for half the cost.

>>32567223
I want one for my Mossberg. Looks sooo cool

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>>32570243
I got one today as well. The edge is shit but besides that it seems like a great little knife

Guy at my local knife shop found an old shipment of new old stock Imperial Jackmaster shell-handled knives (US production) and he's selling stockmans for $14. Fair price?

>>32613908
Supposedly people got a razor edge with these. I recently got a carbon 8 too, but I don't have a proper stone yet.

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>>32564139
what is a good throwing knife. I wanna be like that dude in the expendables throwing knives and instantly killing bad guys from 30 feet away

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Well finally got an email back from Spyderco. Was under the impression their OpFocus program was for individual purchasing, but it's more for unit purchasing. Here's a pic of some of stuff to maintain membership and such.

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>>32613972
I don't doubt they do, but the factory edge on mine is pretty bad

>>32614180
For the price of a basic Opinel don't be surprised they don't really bother, as long as the knife is finished and ready for sale.

>>32614449
I wasn't too surprised. Luckily they're easy to sharpen.

>>32578119

I chop vegetables with a Mora Companion, and it work great.

>>32564139
I'm just wondering..how many people here would buy custom knifes from a kommando?
I'd have a list of blade profiles and other options and then make knives to order.
I have the tools just need a new belt sander.

>>32614978
I stated repeatedly that I would be interested and I know there's a few more that would be interested as well. Plus word spreads so might be more on /k/ that don't regular the knife threads who may be interested.

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>>32578119

Spyderco Spydiechef, obviously.

>>32614978

As long as you do high-quality heat treatments and do all you post HT power grinding with active liquid cooling, then I'd be interested.

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>>32613972
>>32613908
Five minutes on a stone and these things do indeed get very very sharp.

One of the reasons I like mine so much.

>>32615836
Any suggestions regarding that edge? Factory edge on it seems like... really fucking tiny, almost non-existent, so small I have no idea what the fuck is going on down there.

>>32613908
>>32615836
Is it 1095?

>>32613282
Oh I totally agree on Kizer selling better ti framelocks. Sebenzas are overpriced, overhyped mid-quality pieces. Zero Tolerance also makes better flipper framelocks. I still think the Sebenza is *nice*, I just wouldn't pay a whole lot for one. Maybe the model I held was just a better one? The lock on it felt more solid than any framelock I've ever handled. But obviously comparing a framelock to a triad lock is like comparing a sedan to a tank.