Knife General - Patrician Knives Edition

anybody have thoughts on Blackjack knives? been thinking about a model 7 with a stacked leather handle.

>>32534049

Poor man's Randall.

They're Bark River with another name.

Old Blackjack is gone.

>>32534079

Yes you are.

Prices are just barriers. Work out deals or changes to get more expensive knives for cheaper.

I've never spent more than 200$ once and I have pretty expensive things.

are bark rivers worth the price tag? They're local and I'd like to support local.

>>32534114

No.

The guy is very shady and the business questionable. Some have been scammed for thousands of dollars.

If you really want to support local find a local company that is small or even run by a single guy.

There are many knife companies full of good and honest people but BRKT isnt one of them.

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I'd also like to point out tnat not only am I a collector, but I also use knives often and in the outdoors / expeditons / long trips / """"extreme"""" sports.

So if you have any doubts in these topics you may also ask.

>>32534132
what would be the ideal setup for bladed tools when camping/hiking/backpacking

Obviously things like duration of the trip will matter but just in general. I know a lot of people will say that axes/hatchets aren't as useful as most noobs think because you don't really need to be cutting up wood for fires all that often (assuming you practice LNT). Any other bits of wisdom to offer on similar topics?

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New edc
Chink shit Kershaw that came with a smaller knife and a driver set for $15

I like the blade shape and the assisted opening, the blade seems to be rugged.
I expect the handle and frame to give out eventually but I only plan to abuse it until then

>>32534141

Literally depends on the characteristics of the trip and the area where you're going.

The next level is your preferred taste. I absolutely love knives, so I have tons of options. Some may not, but there are always optimal setups regardless.

Then the carry method is up to oneself. You will always learn and know what works best for you.

A very important tip is not to worry too much because most of the time you dont even need to use a knife outdoors. Another very important tip is that knives outdoors in well organized trips are overrated and multitools underrated.

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>>32534156

I've been looking for a Phrike myself.

>>32534141
If you LNT all you really need is a pocket knife.

The things you bring camping depend entirely on what activities you do while camping, and where you camp.

If you want fires:
Bringing in a bundle of logs- you'll want a hatchet
Backpacking in an area that has deadfall (hasn't been picked clean by other hikers)- can break dead branches by hand or use hatchet/ machete
Long term (hunting cabin or week long +)- you'll want a saw and a camping/full size axe

Fishinging- small knife for gutting and a filet knife
Marshmallows- pocket knife for sticks
Shelter building/ survival training- big chopping knives and anything else you want to try out.

>>32534167
I honestly love it. It's the smallest full-size knife they have but it fits comfortably in my hand and it's still easy to IWB.

I have a CRKT M21-14SFG I got as a gift and when I try and use the flipper to open it it only opens up 1/2 - 3/4ths of the way. Is this intentional? I have never used an assisted opening knife that didn't open completely using a flipper or thumb stud.

>>32534141

Buy a small hatchet (Fiskars are really good and cheap), a long bladed knife (Becker BK9 or similar length) for batoning wood. You want the longer blade so you can actually process logs of a decent size. Something 5-6 inches is too short. And a saw. I personally use a Fiskars folding saw I bought at Walmart, you can probably go a little more upmarket with the saw of you want, bit the Fiskars is pretty lightweight and strong enough to saw through limbs the size a BK9 can actually process. A smaller knife could be good of you intend to try to hunt or fish or things like that.

The saw is to process the actual limb of the tree. Trying to chop wood that thick fucking sucks. The hatchet is to clear the limb of branches. The hatchet can also chop fairly thick branches just through the force of the blow breaking them more than cutting them. The knife is to baton the wood. If have to split the wood to get into burn, you need a knife to do that.

That's what you need for minimalist camping/firebuilding. You would be shocked at how quickly a small fire burns through the size of wood you can process with a knife. You will need to be processing wood pretty regularly to keep the flames going.

If you want a cheap knife that is tough the Buck Reaper is just about long enough and less than 40 bucks. It's a little thin to be the "end all be all" knife, but it's really good for 40 bucks.

>>32534156
nice combo, nigger. How do you like them for edc?

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/r/ing a sharpener

I want a straight point folder.
Do they exist?

>>32535100
/r/ing your hand size. You making that 4 look like an izula

>>32534954
>have hatchet
>use knife to batton wood

Not sure if bait or just retarded

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My fave. Esee 3 IWB

Currently 100 miles from me due to eating it at my folks place over Xmas. Feel naked.

>>32535100
Wouldn't be too hard to sharpen
What sort of edge do you want on it?

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>>32535162
I'm a big guy
But a 12? I'm not sure desu

>>32535328
It's my EDC, general purpose

>>32535182
New sheaths are great, lost my last ESEE 4 off my belt inna woods. W
Made it 3y and was pretty haggard by then though

>>32535100

Lansky works but it's more barebones than it looks.

Spyderco also works.

And get a Fällkniven stone as well.

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>>32535398
Tybby

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>>32535474
Also recommending lansky
It's what I use
What the other anon said about it being barebones is right

>>32535505
Curious on what grits you guys prefer

>>32535182
You're going to get busted, britbongistan boi.

What's the name of that chink knife company that makes knives with the spyderco hole with the benchmade axis lock for cheap?

>>32534868
Beaut

>>32535545
I used to polish up to 2k then strop but I found only going to 600 then stroppong gives more slicing aggression but still an edge polished enough to easily push cut anything

>>32534035

Walter Sorrell's Tactix Armory. He makes some fucking great youtube videos too, probably the most educated popular knife maker on youtube.

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>>32535718

And he's a writer too

And with a sense of humor

And he's probably stoned in most of his videos

>>32535585
Tbh I beat the shit out of it as a true all purpose blade. Trees, boxes, pry open car doors w keys locked in it more often than I care to admit, gut fish, open beers, scrape bowls, etc.
Push cutting computer paper however isn't one of the things I need it for haha.
All stops created equal (enough) ?

>>32535381
You are indeed a beast. Would not want to get punched by.

>>32536032
Strops*

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>>32535552
Nope.

>>32535545
I take the Esee to 2k then strop too. Thinned the grind out a bit too.

>>32535559
Ganzo. Their axis lock is very stiff.

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>>32536079
Make one.
Still using the one I made out of a shots holder I stole from Belgo in London whilst wasted.

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>>32536073
You wouldn't. I wouldn't. Unless you violated the NAP.

>>32536097
I agree it's a bit fat and had a friend do the same for me. He was also coincidentally using a Lansky. Ordering one now

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Not my first choice of blade style, but a local guy makes these and they are impossibly strong and sharp.

Ah shit do I want the Lansky 5 stone kit for $32 or the 4 diamond kit for $60?

Diamond will be faster but can mess up blade faster i assume?

>>32534954

You don't really need to Baton wood. Even here in WA, during the rainy season (remember this is WA, the most wettest state in the US) it is easy as fuck to find dry wood. As some one who spent 7 months living in the woods (researchers were doing research, that area was base camp. Ppl would leave and new ppl showed up...I miss that job) and having to build fires for every thing, just a small knife was more than enough for me to make fires.

After reading your post a few times, it's clear most of your knowledge is from tv. What a faggot you are.

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>>32536141
I used the fallkniven double stones, took a while!

Not going to get another sheath?

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>>32536340
These two

>>32536097
>Nope
Until they search you and then hello prison cell for concealing a weapon. I have my doubts that you carry it with you everyday, even more now with all the tighten security.

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>>32536376
Actually, situation currently prevents me from carrying it at the moment. I still carry when hunting, which is a lot. When on the job at the moment I carry a multitool either signal or sidekick.

I will never be searched.

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>>32536340
I lost the sheath cuz the old style clasps sucked (knife retention too), I presume knife is still innit. Could go back for it inna spring I know roughly where I was crawling through the puckabrush.

Just went a ordered a new one and was pleasantly surprised w the new sheaths when it came it

>>32534881
I have the full sized CRKT M16 which should be the exact same as the M21 excluding the blade and mine isn't assisted and I don't believe the M21 is assisted either. All I do is flick the knife a bit when I open it and it works just fine. If that do debt work for you just loosen the screws

>>32534121

Not to mention the war Bark River continues to mercilessly dry power grind their knives, burning the hell out of the edges, even after having been told repeatedly about it.

No one should be paying BRKT prices for knives that didn't have ALL of their power grinding done with active liquid cooling.

whats a good knife for killing people stealthily?

>>32536032

If you are going to use your knives that way then a Lansky type set up with multiple stones is a waste, much less strops.

Learn to freehand on a Norton India IB8 coarse/fine combination oilstone. The coarse side is ~140 grit and will be WAY WAY faster for sharpening out the visible nicks and edge rolls you are going to get using your knives that way.

The fine side leaves a really great, very sharp edge with loads and slicing aggression.

>>32536107
Thanks bruh!

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>>32536097

Technically you reprofiled it to lower the edge bevel angle. When people say they thinned out the grind they usually mean the primary grind (I.e. from the spine to the edge bevel), such as in pic related.

>>32536801
Yes Drake,
I mean SIR
Sorry sir
Would you like to fuck my wife

>>32536447
>I still carry when hunting
Well that means you're /out/ then no one gives a fuck and cops can go suck a dick.

>I will never be searched
I don't buy that desu pham.

>>32536848

Eh, I hate being a stickler for terminology but this usage of reprofiled vs thinned out grind is pervasive enough that I felt like I should mention it.

>>32536872
Very true

>>32536852

It's because I don't say things like "senpai"

What's everyone's take on Benchmade knives?

>>32536979
"desu" is a replacement for "t b h" on this board because reasons. anon may not be a weaboo faggot, but probably is anyways

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>>32536979
neither do I.

>>32537012
>anon may not be a weaboo faggot, but probably is anyways
I'm not, I despise amimeshit and the only culture I like is the european one.

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So I was talking to my mom the other day and she mentioned that she'd found her dad's old "fishing knife" while going through old stuff. Picked it up while at my parents' house for xmas and to my surprise, it's a Puukko - unexpected because my grandfather was Italian and as far as my mom knows he didn't have any Finnish friends or anything.

Unfortunately, it was also rusted halfway to oblivion after sitting in a drawer for close to 70 years (grandfather quit hunting in the mid or late '50s). I did some research and figured out that it's probably a Gensco, and would only be worth $40 or so in nice condition. Given the lack of value and the terrible condition I figured I could clean it up without worries about ruining a priceless antique or anything.

Here's as it came out of the drawer:

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>>32537204
And here's after some cleanup with Hoppe's and sandpaper.

I stopped once I'd gotten it down to reasonably clean and usable metal. I didn't want to keep sanding away stock and I don't have any good polish handy. I may pick some up and see if it evens the finish out, I've seen pictures of mint condition ones and they appear to have been mirror polished.

Still, it's actually a functional knife now. The steel seems pretty soft but it takes a nice enough edge too. I wish I had the equipment to do a proper convex edge, which afaik would be correct for a Puukko, but it seems to work nicely with a 25 DPS Lansky sharpen.

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I really like this knife maker, Carter Cutlery.

bought a few of the kitchen knives and want to get a more utilitarian knife from him.

>>32537257
>convex edge
>puukko
wrong.gif

>>32537273
Yeah, I actually was just reading up on that and I see that you're just supposed to sharpen in line with the bevel? That's pretty much what I did so I feel a bit better now.

I'd read about people doing convex on scandi grinds but I guess that's a modern thing.

Anyone have experience with the Apex Edge Pro?

Seems like a quality sharpener but wondered if it's worth the $$

>>32537271

I like that a lot, the only adjustments I'd ask for on it would be to remove the recurve, and possibly make the choil less fuckhueg, though it's hard to gauge the size of the knife without reference. It just looks large compared with the rest of the blade.

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>>32538135
He has a pretty large line of knives so you could find one that does not have that finger groove. If not then wait and it will show up eventually. That knife is 8 inches overall with a little over 4 inch blade.

this knife is 9 inches overall with a little under 5 inch blade

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>>32537271
>>32538135
>>32538207

I'd give Calton Cutlery a look if you are in the market for that kind of knife in a high hardness carbon steel.

Calton makes knives in 1095 and 52100 that he heat treats himself to ~62 HRC and does some really nice lean high performance grinds.

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I have a TOPS BOB, going to remove the coating and the ducking ads errywhere. What do you think? Also have a bark river highlands special in a2 in gonna sell, a schrade sharpfinger made in USA, a buck 55 and 112. Some others too

Need a machete for around the house/farm work. Any brand recommendations?

>>32538447
>Need a machete for around the house

What did he mean by this?

>>32538447
Any carbon blade machete would suit your need. Recommend you make a lanyard to prevent accidental injuries. Length depends on vegetation.

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>>32538447
Cost me £12 inc p+p, seems solid though not super sharp out the box

Are there any knives that could serve both combat and game skinning? I was thinking about a slightly larger skining knife with a rectangular blade and a slight safety that allows me to jam it into soft tissue easily, the blade would probably need to be very rigid so not an overly long one

>>32538944
That thing looks way too thick to be a proper machete.

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>>32534382
Is that bayonette-capable?

>>32536772
None of them. Silenced .45 is the best choice.

>>32538447
Imacasa/Tramonita. Condor if you're willing to cough up more money.

>>32538966
>Are there any knives that could serve both combat and game skinning?
Why would you need to do both? Are you going to murder someone and wear their skin?

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I've got pic related, absolutely love it.

>>32538975
I just measured it, it's 2mm thick. The handle's chunky as fuck though, could use some sanding.

>>32538966
>>32539237
just found out what a boot knife is, gonna stick with that

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>>32539559
A.G. Russell has a decent affordable boot knife for $50.
https://agrussell.com/knife/3861

If you're willing to pay $100+, you should get pic related.
https://agrussell.com/knife/197#

>>32539624
that will become my first fixed blade

>>32534075
Thats a joke right?

>>32534075
what is the point of backwards serration?

>>32539757
To appeal to mall ninjas and rambofags. It serves no functional purpose, the teeth are too broad to function as a saw, which is the 'pretend' purpose of them.

They're useless and ugly, and make choking up on the blade impossible. Shit overall desu

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Clearly you guys don't know what a good knife actually is.

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>>32539757

You can notch and cut small branches without damaging the edge

>>32539792

You have no taste and are a total pleb

>>32537000
Good knives, good warranty, just usually overpriced so shop around.

If I had one gripe it would be the axis lock. I like it better than a spine lock back design but much prefer liner or frame locks.

I need a stupidly tough knife with a long serrated edge on one side for cutting hose, fuel line and wire. Fixed blade because no lock exists I won't destroy batoning the blade between flanges and other gasketed parts. I have plenty of mechanics tools but for salvage work and other places I find myself those aren't available.

Paying for quality is fine. All my tools are expendable if they make me money or my work easier.

What is king shit knife for a mechanic? USAF survival knife is far too weak in the tang. I want something I could stand on.

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>>32540222
Spyderco Pygmy Warrior. (pic related). Street price is $185.

The Spyderco Warrior is larger and is virtually rustproof, but it discontinued and more expensive.

Anyone in here ever get caught carrying a switchblade in a state where its not legal? What happened? Wondering if its worth getting fined or thrown in the drunktank for a night just to be able to carry my edgelord clickclack knife.

>>32540485
>Wondering if its worth getting fined or thrown in the drunktank for a night just to be able to carry my edgelord clickclack knife.

That's retarded and so are edgelords. When cops pop you they look for MORE things to pop you for.

>>32540608
Yeah shit, I just looked it up and it turns out in my state even private ownership is illegal, so I probably wouldnt get much leniency if a cop pulled me in with a microtech in my pocket.

Im in VA, I can open carry a pistol, or CC with a permit, no problem. But I cant have a flicky spring knife in my house? Thats retarded.

How often do you guys buy new knives? I am looking to get some microtech and benchmade knives but they are so expensive. At least most aren't as much as guns.

>>32541812
About a knife every few months, but my most recent purchases have all been in the 100-200 range.

Benchmade North Fork
Kizlyar DV2
Benchmade Adamas

>>32541812

I just got a little into knives and I've bought 4 in the last month.

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1/4 and bump

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>>32542429
2/4 And my favorite

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>>32542459
3/4 Charge beats Wave

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>>32542470
4/4 My first-ever boot knife. Really just a rubber-gripped pigsticker.

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>>32542487
5/4 because I always forget this one. My dad's service knife. USAF variety, pretty shit. Has a compass in the handle.

>>32536237
Not really,but diamknd is probably better for damaged blades

>>32542429
info on this one too lazy to figure it out myself

>>32542487
for small pigs

>>32542525
It's a Buck (obviously), 6" long, bought it for $43 at a local place. Forget the exact model, I can get you the info later. It was a gift to a friend in exchange for the hunting knife.

>>32542552
Very small pigs, yeah. But I sharpened the thing to the point where I could stab through an old tire like it was paper.

>>32541812
I usually wait around to find one that I really like, save for it or wait for discounts, then grab it and repeat. I haven't gotten a new knife since Black Friday, when I decided to grab a CRKT Fossil, even though I already had 2 knives way better than it, because it was like so cheap on Amazon during their BF special. I loved the looks of it and it was like $30 so I figured why not. Haven't found any I really really want yet, save for a couple I low-key want but don't want to drop the money on and/or don't have the use for. I think the next big purchase would either be a M390 PM2, some sort of small fixed blade, or save for a while to get a USP .45.

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Spyderman, Spyderman, doin things like a Spyder can...

So yeah, finally bought my first "real" Spydie. (I have a Tenacious but that's basically chinashit and I hated it and a Ladybug but that's barely a knife.)

Mostly got it as a "benchmark knife" for reviews of other stuff, but I'll try carrying it for a bit too and see what I think. Seems nicer than I expected so far, the FRN isn't anywhere near as cheap feeling as it is on the Native or Manix and I like the slate blue color. Emerson opener is a new thing to me as well.

>>32541812
Historically not that often, maybe 1-3 knives a year. I stick with the same EDC for long periods and don't generally buy stuff I don't plan on carrying.

That's going to be changing now, though, since I've got a knife YT channel in the works and will need a steady flow of stuff to showcase and review.

>>32540485
No, because autos are a novelty and I live in a state where pretty much everything is legal. Either bin that knife or sell it, whichever is better, and buy something practical.

>>32536237

Diamond will remove material faster than regular stones, which means it can fix blade defects faster if you do it right, but also fuck things up if you aren't careful or precise.

As a generalization, without knowing the stones in question, Diamond has a lower grit than regular stones which means it'll leave a rougher, more aggressive cutting edge on the knife. This means it'll be less effective at slicing paper, but more effective at slicing cardboard, fabrics, and tissues (i.e. meat), since the blade will bite into material better.

If you want a smooth, high-grit edge you'll need different stones, but if you don't care about push cut performance (since it's pretty much pointless), a diamond stone will give you an excellent field-service edge very quickly.

>>32540222
>no lock exists I won't destroy
You, my friend, have never seen the COLD STEEL TRI-AD LOCK! 800 pounds of pressure directly on the blade required to make the lock fail, but is easy to repair and even easier to use! Works in the same way your average lockback works, except COLD STEEL TRI-AD LOCK is better than your average lockback because of its super strength and easy 1 hand operation! Order a COLD STEEL ESPADA XL in CTS XHP HIGH CARBON STAINLESS STEEL today for the low low price of $200!

In all seriousness, the Triad lock will be just as good as a fixed blade in this instance and will be easier to carry in a folder. Something like the Talwar or Espada large would work. If you really need that sawback, try looking at Ontario, Becker, and Esee fixed blades. I'm not sure if any of those have any sawbacks or partially serrated blades but it's worth a look, I'm just too lazy to do it for you.

>>32536237
I have the shitty 3 stone kit and it works well enough. I'll probably get more stones someday. The only way I'd bother with diamond is if you have really fucked up knives or regularly need to do serious sharpening on knives with very hard steel. (S90V etc.)

A few tips, by the way. Only ever use one rod with the Lansky, it comes with 3 but they're all kind of flexible and you'll never get consistent angles if you switch between them. Pick one, get it nice and straight, and then don't snap it back into the box when done, just let it sit free in there. (The box holds them super tight and they'll bend when you pull them out.)

Also, get or make a strop, it makes a big difference. I have a shitty one made of an old belt screwed to a piece of wood, and use automotive polishing compound, and it still changed my life, my knives go from "decently sharp" with the Lansky to hair-popping razors after a couple minutes on the strop.

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>>32540222
Man that's tough. I'd suggest one of those big chisel type rescue/demo knives but I've never seen one with a serrated edge.

One still might be your best bet. You'll have to carry a stone and touch it up now and then but it's as tough as they get and can handle prying and chiseling at shit.

Benchmade releasing a thousand autos. 87 coming in at $510. Who would buy it?

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Just bought this one, should be here by friday

>>32543459
I'm sure they'll sell as many as they make. BM Balis are basically just collectors' items nowadays anyway. I also wouldn't be surprised if this version of the 87 is some fancy schmancy "collectors' edition" and they eventually release a cheaper one.

BM's whole 2017 catalog is pretty lame IMO. Too many autos that I don't care about and everything else are just new handles or 2.0 versions of existing knives with new names slapped on them. The new Gold Class looks pretty nice but you have to be a special kind of autist to spend $700 on a Benchmade.

>>32537310
Is that the sprint run version or just bad lighting on a black one

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bought this recently and a buck 119 i wish i had bought a quality full tang knife alot earlier in life.

>>32542755
Does it really feel that different? I have a endura and was looking to get the Manix in the lightweight as well, is there that much a difference in handle?

>>32543539
Are you actually putting it on a firearm or you just playing commando

>>32543583
I tried a Manix LW in the store while buying my Delica today and it felt like a cheap toy. I was pretty dissapoint.

The Delica/Endura plastic has a decent solid satiny feel to it, the Manix version reminded me of one of those plastic hair clips that women wear or something. It felt like it should have glitter embedded in it. The lock tabs felt equally chintzy too.

I like the Manix design but I think I'd go for the G10 version.

>>32534156
what is that bottom knife? i need to know

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>>32542921
He could always send it off to a secondary service to get it serrated.

>>32543610
I think it's because the Delica/Endura have steel liners, which makes it feel more solid. In terms of pure strength, the liners aren't really adding that much as FRN is pretty strong on its own, but I think that's where the cheap feeling comes from.

>>32543836
Yeah, the steel liners are part of it. I also think a lot of it is that the Delica/Endura scales are satin/matte or whatever and are opaque, while the Manix ones are translucent and smooth though. It's also just that the Manix is much wider, the other two have "narrow" handles so they feel more dense and less hollow.

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All I really own are small fixed blades and SAKs.

>>32539807
damn, you can even take the blade apart to clean it. Thanks Chris!

>>32537273
I have an antique handforged Morakniv with what appears to be a factory convex grind.

>>32539757
Mallninja appeal.

The military issued some sawback survival knives to aircrews in WW2, so they could cut through the aluminum skin of their crashed aircraft.

Ever since, idiots have mistaken this for other things, such as a wood saw, or some kind of flesh ripper. Problem is, you can't harden a knife as a wood saw, and you don't want a blade to snag when you're trying to pull it out of someone.

If the knifemaker isn't selling a sawback as a way to escape a crashed plane, the knife is fucking garbage.

>>32540485
Assisted-open knives are superior to autos, and 50 state legal.

Leave your niggerpoker at home with the rest of your collection.

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Comments on the machete? I think it looks great.

>>32542792
>>32542849
>diamond sharpeners
Meme tier.

All a man needs is a mill file, a 5000 grit stone, some chromium oxide, and a leather strop. The mill file is only for reshaping. Five passes a side on the stone, and five on the chromium oxide laden strop, and you have a perfect edge.

>>32544005
No, it looks retarded.

Its a type of machete used by aborigines in the Malaysian forests. Supposedly the notch in the blade aids in stabbing pigs.

i got a 50 dollar amazon giftcard for xmas and need a new pocket knife. is the sticky still reliable?

or should i just buy like five chinkshit knives to toss when they are no longer usable?

Looking for a quality kukri knife. Mostly used for camping and bushcraft but also needs to excel in self defense applications. I have a Kbar USMC and love the toughness.
Money isn't too big of an issue since I save a lot of my money, but I'm waiting for my FOID card to buy an SKS soon, so nothing above $150.

>>32544111
I'm not sure what's in the sticky, but for $50 I'd buy a Skyline or throw in an extra $20 of my own and get a Delica.

>>32544116

>Money isn't too big of an issue since I have a lot of money
>nothing above $150

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>>32544118
this is what's on the list.

thank you!

>>32544111

What will you be doing with it?

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>>32544142
Never said I have a ton of money. Also mentioned in the next sentence I was saving up for an SKS. Read my whole post before being an ass. Or actually recommend a knife.

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>>32544160
boring, everyday things like cutting packages/cardboard/food because captain asshat forgot any knives while camping.

light camping/fishing duty besides that. possible prying abuse.

i had a cold steel knife i loved and abused for a few years until it disappeared in my parents house. been getting by with this absolute garbage for a couple months now and would like to get something where it doesn't feel like the lock is going to fail if look at it the wrong way.

>>32544251
Hey, I have that knife.

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>>32544005
What are you going to use it for? Parangs are meant for more woodsy targets, similar to the kind you'd tackle with a hatchet compared to a typical machete.

>>32544116
Himalayan Imports.Authentic kukris made by Nepalese smiths, just with larger proportions to better suit western hands.

Stalk their Bladeforums section and you can get discounted/blemished knives for cheaper than you would get from their website.

>>32544260
i got mine for like 3 bucks off amazon. it cuts things ok, but i feel like it's gonna break all the time.

>>32544276
Thanks, will look into it.

>>32544286
You paid three dollars too many.

I wish mine would break so I wouldn't feel bad throwing it away.

>>32544296
use it as a really tiny shooting target?

i was using it whenever i had to fly somewhere and didn't want to risk the tsa taking the knife i actually liked. now i am stuck with it until i get a new knife.

>>32543639

Spartan Enyo

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The svörd farmer knife is good. Its nothing tacticool, but is a real multipurpose too. I wouldnt go bush without one.

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Also, a clunkier fun alternative to to a cheap folder like an opinel, the svörd peasant works much like a straight razor, and is available in a mini size.

>>32535718
Yesss and I love his voice. Hes not perfect though, some of his design choices are just plain ugly. But 9/10

>>32539792
You being stupid doesnt mean they dont have a meaning. You realize thats a microtech right ? Youd think Marfione knows better than to just do mallninja shit ?

>>32535474
Diamond lansky and a strop. Dont get the stone version, its so annoying and the stones wear out. The diamond is just for your peace of mind since the sharpening goes.. 20 times faster

>>32544045

No.

Virtually everything contained in your post is wrong.

>>32542849

Stropping isn't strictly necessary if you know how to deburr an apex by other means (high angle passes), and stropping should generally be avoided if you want a coarse finish.

That being said, stropping on a pasted strop can work fairly well for burr minimization and inherently creates a small convex microbevel which will strengthen the apex.

It just depends on what results you are trying to achieve.

>>32544582
I just ordered a copper micro. Waiting for now. I have a big one, and it's great but a little too large to lug around. I think this new one will be my main edc for a while.

>>32542835
I just recently got a Talwar and the serrations are excellent for reinforced (fiber, not steel of course) hose etc. It's well made and was cheap via Woot. The Triad lock is respectably solid.

I'll look into your other recommendations too.

>>32543991
>If the knifemaker isn't selling a sawback as a way to escape a crashed plane, the knife is fucking garbage.

AF maintainervet, mechanic and machinist here, the USAF survival knife serrations are still garbage (I was bored and tried mine on aluminum scrap) but the points on USAF survival knives are suitable for breaking light plexiglass aircraft window transparencies. That's more of a "stab to crack, hit with pommel to remove" exercise.

>Want to buy a Benchmade Morpho balisong
>Available
>Ships in 25 business days

welp, guess I better wait till they make them a bunch again.

>>32544582
Very nice, for 27$ I think I'm gonna try it.
t. opinel fag

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>>32545210
>>32544582
>MUH WOOD HANDLE
>MUH CLASSY KNIFE

>>32545440

Do fedora fags still exist?

Seems like a thing of the 90's or early 2000s now

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Anything 1095 cro van suits my needs, it holds an edge for quite awhile and is easily sharpened unlike the high dollar steels.

>>32545473
I know one. We went to HS together. Now he's a fucking dev making 170k+

>>32542525
If you still give a fuck, it's a Buck Reaper Rosewood.

>>32545489

what's the point of sharpening a bk2? you might as well be using a round river rock.

>>32545664
What do you mean?

What do you guys think about SOG and CRTK's small budget fixed blades?

>>32545864
CRKT's are meh, the Sharpfinger is meh, wouldn't touch SOG with a 10 foot pole

>>32545736

He means that the blade geometry of a BK2 is so absurdly bad that you might as well hit whatever you were trying to cut with a round river rock, because it will cut just about as well as that vaguely knife shaped object.

>>32545888
Why? Bad steel? I was thinking about a SOG Snarl for a poor man's La Griffe

>>32545939
I have no trouble cutting anything with this knife.

>>32545990

This video does a good job of showing why barely sharpened pry bars like the BK2 are literally worthless.

https://youtu.be/krZJUj70r1c

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>>32542429
are cameras really that hard to figure out

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>>32534868
>serrations

>>32546054
(OP of the Buck here)
What do you mean?

>>32546152
it's not a good picture, is all

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>>32538447
Tramontina is likely your best price/performance choice. Ontario makes nicer blades but I think the handles suck. Pic related is mod'ed 12" Ontario

>>32546182
Oh. Yeah, well, my phone is old as fuck and I'm shaky, so pictures ain't my forte.

>>32544045
This works fine if you aren't retarded. PUSH down on the knife while you use the stone, and use appropriate lube. Also, use manly pressure when you strop.

Too many people use girly touches when they sharpen. In turn we have a thousand fags complaining about needing "special" stones. Use some pressure, and the job will go quicker.

>>32546050

Gavko is a top lad.

Enthusiastic abount knives and doesnt take any shit

>>32546050
Intresting video but I think its a little bit of a misrepresentation. I can do all those tasks very easily with my blade, I however reprofiled the blade and put a sabre grind and finished sharpening it all the way from 400 grit to a 8000 grit naniwa stone
https://youtu.be/B_-FCqaj4oc

>>32546457

This is really bad advice in general, and with respect to diamond plates and strops in particular.

High force should be avoided on all but the coarsest oilstones and waterstones. On most diamond plates high force will have a serious risk of damaging the stone by ripping off the diamond abrasive.

On strops high force exaggerates the amount of microscopic curvature the strop induces at the apex and can lead to a rapid loss of slicing aggression.

Finally, in general high force on sharpening stones promotes the formation of a stubborn, hard to remove burr and also weakens the apex by plastic deformation, reducing edge retention.

>>32546457
Dat fuckin caveman logic i love it

Big strong man arent ya anon?

>>32544607
Manufacturers make what sells. It's the point of a manufacturing company. That's a terrible argument and you should feel bad for making it.

Knives are tools built to one or more purposes. Do you forsee yourself needing to saw materials with a poor sawblade and forgot to pack a saw? congrats....your knife will make an improbable task merely uncomfortable. It only cost you being able to grip up on the knife and some structural stability of the blade.

Bottom line: buy what you like and stop listening to imaginary voices on the internet. Go out and do these things and report back.

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My recent acquisitions

>>32546988
Whats that in the middle

>>32546988
Top one looks fucking stupid

>>32541872

Just bought 5 more cheap ones.

>>32547015
A lighter for scale lol

>>32547016
It's shaped like a scimitar with an integral guard, with a handle made of steel, G10 and carbon fiber. Pretty practical design if you ask me

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>>32547029
Forgot pic

>>32547057

Why wouldn't they have gimpinng on it?

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>>32545440
You can buy the peasant knife kit, and make your handle out of whatever you want if you have a need for a more tacticool vibe.

>>32547016
Spyderco Szabo. Overpriced tacticool knife. Horrible carry.

>>32547029
>practical
>mallninja knife

>>32545974
Bad steel, overpriced, and bad company in general. Too much mall ninja shit, they use lower end steels for high end prices. Example: Seal Pup $60 in AUS-8, vs Ontario SP2 in 1095 for $45. As I already said, mall ninja designs everywhere.

>>32546194
That looks great, really rustic

>>32545159
Don't buy them brand new, Benchmade overpriced as fuck, especially on the balisongs. Get one used off JerzeeDevil for like $150 as long as it's in good condition. If you want a flipper the BRS BareBones is $225 and worth buying new, but the 51 is a better EDC just not worth $250.

Maxamet guy, they have a sprint run on manix 2 in maxamet. Saw that?

>>32539792
>>32543991

You stupid fags. Some people like the appeal of just looking at a knife

>>32547875

So we're stupid fags for wanting a tool to perform a task? Alright. Neck yourself, manchild.

>>32547894
.hurr durr, my reason for buying something means everyone should have the same reason.

drink bleach

>>32547875

So let me get this strait. We speculate that the reason for knives to have sawbacks is for visual appeal, not for functional purpose. We claim that function trumps appeal, so we disagree with the addition of sawbacks on blades.

This apparently makes us stupid fags, because visuals are important.

I agree that visuals are important; 99% of the time, a knife is getting looked at, not used. HOWEVER, the visual appeal of a knife should NEVER detract from the function of the knife itself, specifically for a survival-style fixed blade.

Visuals are fine and dandy for pocket knives. They aren't meant to be used hard, or to be used to sustain life in the wilderness, or to be used in combat. It is OKAY for pocket knives to be eye candy. It is OKAY for fixed blades to be eye candy if they are marketed as a specialized item not intended for serious use.

It is NOT OKAY for looks to detract from function for a blade specifically designed to protect or sustain your life, and marketed to that purpose. If I say "AMAZING SAWBACK REMOVES THE NEED OF A SAW IN THE WOODS! THIS AMAZING DO-IT-ALL TOOL CAN BE YOURS FOR $99.99!" and the sawback doesn't actually work as a saw, and someone goes innawoods without a saw and suffers because of it, then I have done that consumer a disservice. If I put a sawback on a knife for visual appeal and that sawback detracts from knife functions by being structurally weaker, chewing through batons, preventing blade choking, and getting snagged on pants fabric, bushes, animal tissue, etc, then again I have done the consumer a disservice.

Sawbacks are fine for people who want to LOOK like Rambo. Sawbacks are shit for people who want to ACT like Rambo. That's the difference. If you fall into the former category, not the latter, then what you want is a knife-shaped object, not an actual knife. Knives are made to be used.

>>32548023
Rando lurker here.
Damn straight.

>>32547912
>buys a retarded knife because he thinks it looks kewl
>calls somebody else a fag

I bet you also want camber on your Honda's wheels, huh?

>>32546603
are you the blonde or the black head nigga?

>>32546988
Top is gay, but I like the middle one. what is the steel?

>>32548318
The blonde

>>32548567
Any proof?

I'm a fan of that channel and don't wanna be tricked.

>>32548567
>>32548777 just got trips, you gotta give proof.

>>32534060
>completely spotless Busse knives

EVERY
TIME

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>>32543592
Why don't we have both?

>>32548567
Proof!

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>>32544582
Svörds are made of good steel, too.
I can get mine razor sharp easily.

But in the end, i like the Opinel better, i don't really like the Svörd locking mechanism.

The Von Tempsky bowie, on the other hand...

>>32544574
>>32544582
I have their pig sticker, it makes a great kitchen knife. Haven't had a chance to go bush with it yet though.

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my fav buck knife on my fav boots

>>32549832
I'm this guy >>32550193 I have both of the bowies they offer and they are perfect. I'm thinking of getting a Ned Kelly toothpick as well.

>>32544582

I ordered the copper one last night.

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>>32534021
how can one move up a level from this smith and wesson? it is light, comfortable in hand, thin/clips/rides well inside pocket, etc. I keep trying and failing to find a more robust blade that keeps the characteristics of this ten dollar folder. what am i doing wrong

>>32550225
Some complained about the grip being too slick and offering too little retention.
What's your experience with that?

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>>32550221
boot knives are supposed to go on the inside you dumb faggot.

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>>32536513
Good taste anon. Here's mine.
Still living in the middle of goddamn suburbia so I haven't had the chance to do anything but a little carving and shaping or making tinder bundles but soon...

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I've got one myself. He is right about the axis lock being stiff. I think the smoothness of your knife might be hot or miss, as mine is much smoother than my dad's who got the same model. Also the tip isn't centered, which you may or may not care about. But overall, for ~$25 its not that bad.

>>32550221
Wtf. What in the flying fuck. You motard.

>>32534955
They're really great. I've since made better sheaths for both and I only use the Enyo for light utility cutting.

Good thread guys.
No microfag and no sog
Lots of helpful advice and a few new pictures
8/10 I have spoken

>>32547731
Is it true Maxamet has the best edge retention of any steel ever? How's the wear resistance and corrosion resistance because of it?

I was excited for the Maxamet Manix 2 but it only came out in the Lightweight version, so I passed. I'm hoping they do the regular version but I doubt they will.

>>32550297
>comfortable in the hand
>thin
Since these are mutually exclusive in a knife used for anything more strenuous than cutting packing tape, you and your specific usage wouldn't see a significant performance increase from any other knife.

>>32549355

Hey faggot, not everyone has the chance to use their knives

CUNT

>>32550764
Any time you post it ruins the thread. 2/10. Would rather deal with SOG. Fuck off.

>>32548023

Sawbacks are useful

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>>32550807
Maxamet is interesting. I found what seems to be the component breakdown over on the Spydie forums, there are some pretty crazy numbers:

Carbon 2.15 %
Manganese 0.30 %
Sulfur 0.070 %
Silicon 0.25 %
Chromium 4.75 %
Cobalt 10.00 %
Vanadium 6.00 %
Tungsten 13.00 %

Fucking 13% tungsten. That's pretty damn nuts.

So yeah, it's hard as hell and that should translate into insane retention. I'd worry that it might be brittle but can't say for sure.

What I can say is that it's not really "stainless" and corrosion resistance is going to be shit. That's not just my opinion, even CTS puts it way at the bottom of their chart and Spyderco puts a note about keeping the knife dry and oiled on their pages about it.

As such I don't really see it as a great EDC steel. I think it'd be excellent for a slicey work knife, like for a leatherworker or butcher or something.

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>>32550225
>both bowies
You've got the top one in pic related then?

How is it?

>>32550971
>6% vanadium, .25% silicon
I'd be very surprised if it wasn't more corrosion resistant than most mainline stainless steels.

>>32550297
There are a thousand options out there. The S&W may be $10 but it's also made of shit steel and shit quality. Look into Spyderco and Zero Tolerance. The Delica 4 is great for sub-$100 and ZT makes great stuff over $100 but are fairly priced for the designs and materials.

>>32550971
Well yeah the standard for "stainless steels" is 20% Chromium so that makes sense. Saw a post on a >reddit where someone dropped their Maxamet Manix 2 and the edge chipped, hard. I would use it for cutting cardboard and such. I live in a dry area and don't use my knives around water so the corrosion resistance doesn't phase be, other than it will develop a patina quickly like ZDP-189 or M4 (and I personally don't like patinas so I guess that is a downside).

I'd like to have a Maxamet knife.

>tfw love the design of the Buck Nighthawk
>tfw 420hc shitsteel
Does anyone make a similar style in a not-shit steel?

>>32551050
Yeah you'd think it might be, but the makers and dealers go out of their way to stress that it ISN'T stainless. Maybe that's just in comparison to other high-end knife steels, though.

>>32551148
I'd like to try it out myself, but I'm not sure I could test it well. It's almost a shame I'm not at my old job, I used the hell out of my knives there and really appreciated supersteels. Nowadays my knives are "just in case I need it" EDCs and don't get run very hard except when I'm working on hobby projects.

>>32551159
The Nighthawk appears to be a collab with Tops, I'd go look through the Tops catalog and see if you find anything you like.

>>32551216
Yeah I was comparing to shit like 420 and aus-8.

>>32551241
I did, its all overpriced low to low-mid grade steel.

>>32551248
I'd actually guess that both of those will outperform Maxamet in terms of corrosion resistance. 420 is around 12-14% Cr, so in theory it should be substantially more resistant. AUS-8 seems to be in a similar range too.

Maxamet seems to me like it'd be more comparable to a "carbon steel" as used in outdoor and industrial knives. It might make for an incredible bushcrafting steel, especially because it's apparently really easy to sharpen (by supersteel standards), except apparently it's not made in thick enough stock and of course it's insanely expensive.

>>32551335
Considering how easily 420 rusts thats...disappointing.

Also I think the overwhelming majority of bushcraft knives are way too thick. They trade a LOT of cutting potential on the off chance that the off chance you baton it and it breaks slightly sooner.

>>32551383
Yeah I agree with that, but you still need more thickness than Maxamet comes in. The reason Spyderco only did the Manix and Native is because Maxamet doesn't even come thick enough for the PM2 or similar.

>>32536848
>>32536801
Wait,

The anon who knows a shit ton about knives, steel, and sharpening is Drake?

>>32551609
Holy shit that is thin.

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>>32551335
A2 is about 5% Cr, so it might corrode similarly.

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Trying some stuff out for photo/video backgrounds. Do you guys like either of these?

>>32550891
If you're not gonna use it, there's no fucking point of buying one.

>>32552109
Right one is okay. Try something with neutral colors that don't contrast with each other, and maybe less noticeable/flashy patterns.

>>32552109
Right is better.

The lines on the left blanket are too parallel with the knives, and the blanket is too dark. They blot out the knives in the picture.

The right one has more light space and the vertical lines look better.

>>32552176
>>32552193

Yeah, I feel pretty much the same way. I figured I'd try these out (they're actually scarves btw) and see what people thought, though.

I'm thinking a plain grey piece of wool, maybe with a light pinstripe pattern, might work well. I'll probably go down to the fabric warehouses next week and see what I can find. I want a background that can sort of be a "trademark" thing for me, so that if somebody shares one of my photos or screencaps a video it's immediately recognizable, and it needs to offer good contrast with knife materials and be non-reflective.

>>32552109
Also, the image on the right is a bit sharper, making the knives pop out more. There's better contrast.

Are tanto blades a meme?

>>32552326
It's actually that the right photo is higher angle, so the focal plane is more in line with the front and rear knives. (I was focused on the Delica in both.) I also just let Lightroom do its auto-adjust thing since these were simple tests.

In both cases it shouldn't be a huge factor because I'll be using a different camera for videos, and it's an actual camcorder with a smaller sensor so much larger depth of field and totally different color/contrast/etc.

>>32552230
>grey wool with light pinstripe
That sounds just about right. Could do a silvery-grey to bring a little more light into the background and hide camera flashes in low light situations. Something with colors that don't particularly stick out, like light shades of blue or grey on the pinstripes. Doesn't even have to be wool, could be cotton or polyester or whatever the fuck, just as long as it doesn't look too textured in close up pictures and doesn't take attention away from the knives.

>>32552342
Pretty much. They don't provide any real advantages and just make it harder to sharpen. Also have the notoriety of being associated with Japanese cultures and therefore mall-ninja shit. If you like the looks of them go ahead just don't go full autist with a half-serrated blade and a black coating.

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>>32552372
Actually here we go, realized I could kind of mock that up with a suit. It actually looks OK aside from the fact that I can't get it to lay flat and I'd rather have the pinstripes facing the other direction, but both would be solved if I just bought a similar piece of upholstery fabric.

The whole situation is a bit tricky for video. For still it's no problem, I have studio strobes, softboxes, a light tent, etc., plus the power of post-processing. With video I need to get lights and camera in really close (to keep the light soft and shutter speed up) and still work around them, plus do it on my desk next to my PC because that's where my good mic is mounted. The hardest part is keeping the light even on the background, which is tricky when I'm working with a pair of 8" wide LED panels that are too weak to shoot through a softbox or anything.

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Not fancy, but was the last production by doug ritter of the griptilian and m390 is based so went for it
Probably wont use it much, for edc my 940 is better

>>32552536
Is there a way you can move your mic for a more flexible shooting arrangement?

I agree on the background. It looks better this way than it has in all the others, but it could get even better with the right piece of fabric. Go for it.

>>32552885
Yeah but for camping I don't think you could find a better easy to carry folder besides a Cold Steel in CTS-XHP for wood chopping. Judging by what others say and the alloy contents of M390 it sounds almost like my dream steel. I'd get one if I had any reason to use or carry it but I'm a small town guy with no reason to have a knife that sturdy and even if I did I'd rather have a fixed blade or a Spyderco.

>>32552886
I can move it a bit but the stand is hardmounted to my desk, and honestly there's nowhere nearby that would be much better. I live in a tiny apartment and don't have much room for another setup, and at least by doing it on my desk I minimize the set up and breakdown time for doing videos. (I just stand the lights and tripod next to my desk when not in use, and can easily drag/swing everything into position this way, instead of setting up a folding table and big mic stand and running power cables and all of that.)

>>32534021
>Patrician Knives Edition
Are you a fixed blade expert or some sort of custom maker?

>>32552885
I'm actually kinda jelly, always wanted one and now I'll probably never get one.

I was really tempted to grab one when Ritter announced that they were being discontinued, but I'm the YT channel guy and need to focus on stuff that's worth reviewing. (And the Ritter isn't since nobody will be able to buy one, plus it's been reviewed and hyped to death anyway.)

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>>32552901
May not need one that sturdy, but in the size of a minigrip, why not? Pic related.
If youre considering it, buy it now on knife works
>>32552926
Still a few left as of last night, buy now if youre gonna

>>32534132
What are some of your favorite blade steels for wood processing and what would be a good camp knife in a bowie like blade? Are kukris functional alternatives to hatchets and machetes or is this a meme? Are "neck knives" or "boot knives" useful innawoods? Are there any folders that would be good outdoors
>>32534156
What are these two? I like the bottom one a lot.
>>32534881
Try flicking your wrist when doing it. CKRT and Kershaw make real cheap flippers and they honestly need springs to work right, even though assisted is a meme. They're pretty shitty so it may require some fiddling with the pivot, lube, and a proper wrist motion to open fully. If you want the best quality for your money, get a ZT or a Kizer of your choice.
>>32536801
How is HAP-40 and how does it measure up to common steels like S35VN? Always been curious about it but it seems to be a less common steel and not many people to ask about it.

>>32552933
Full size Grip has better ergos for me, and besides that even the mini is a fucking tank in the pocket. Really I want a Spydie PM2 or PM3 in M390 but those are damn big too. Wish ZT would make the 0450 in M390.
>>32552911
Oh I meant moving the stand around so you could use it somewhere far from your desk. That makes sense as far as efficiency on paper but if you are constantly bothered by cramped spaces or the mic is in the way that can be a hassle. Sorry to hear that man.

>>32552995
I already owned a fullsize grip, it just feels cheap because od the olasyic handles on that size. I wanted a ritter but not one so similar to the benchmade cousin of it i owned.
A pm2 is fine for edc for me, but i have big hands. My edc is a 940 alrho i may try this minigrip
Id maybe edc the full size grip if it wasnt 154cm
For fucks sake, the pm2 blows it out of the water unless you need some retarded bladeshape. S30V is objectively better, idk how the plain griptilian sells as well as the pm2 desu.

Unrelated but i may make a crashcourse on knives at some point for those just getting into them, would this be worthwhile to people here, or is there already a text dump/guide to this somewhere on murderkube?

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>>32552995
Also, mini is by no means a big knife, its more or less a slightly longer bic lighter. Fullsize grip is huge for edc i agree

>>32553065
Also
*of
*plastic
How do normie phoneposters do this

>>32552933
Wish I could but my load has already been blown on too much other stuff recently, can't justify buying the Ritter. I don't really like the Grip/Mini much either, so it'd mean dropping another bill or so on custom scales if I actually wanted to carry it.

>>32552901
M390 is good shit. I've been carrying my first 390 knife for the last few weeks and it's been holding up impressively so far. I can't really pass judgement until I've dulled and sharpened it, but it's seen steady use and lots of cardboard etc. and still shaves arm hair like a champ.

I heard someone referring to a knife as "deglossed" but I couldn't really find anything about that term. Does it mean anything?

>>32553129
On this i actually like the scales, although admitedly id prefer g10.
On the fullsize grip they suck but on this they feel solid

>>32553141
I think I'm just too spoiled by Ti, CF, and G10 at this point. I also think Spyderco does FRN better on their small knives, the Delica I just bought feels much nicer than a Grip.

There are some AMAZING scale makers on BF, though. I've seen a few guys with custom CF Mini-Grips that look like $300+ knives.

If I only had $50 to spend on a edc knife what should that be?

Something that easily opens/closes with one hand, with a thin grind for slicing because I despise this whole "ALL KNIVES MUST BE 1/4" THICK AND HAVE TO BE ABLE TO BATON THROUGH 300 YEAR OLD ELM" nonsense that's plaguing knife makers everywhere

>>32553255
Id save a bit more for a delica honestly. If i were forced to use that price point, a tenacious

>>32553282
I was leaning to spyderco, I really like flat grinds

Might just wait for a paycheck and spend more, how's the paramilitary 2?

>>32553298
Excellent, altho not amazing for edc unles syou have larger than average hands. As a knife its a tank, if you find it in m390 or s110v it will never fail you. The stock one in s30v is no slouch either however. Id encourage you to look at benchmade minigriptilians if your hands are smaller than average. I love my pm2, but for edc, there are better options, altho maybe not st that price

>>32553282
>>32553298
I think I'd take a Skyline over a Tenacious. I bought the latter after hearing all the hype and was really disappointed.

I'll second the Delica though, especially the FFG version. If you want to step up to a higher-end knife, the PM2 is great but it's pretty chunky. I think I might go for a Native or a Manix over it, since you say you like slicey knives. Some of the Sage line isn't that much more than the PM2 either and they're real premium knives with CF and Ti and other sexy stuff.

Oh, there's also the new PM3, which IMO is more "EDC sized," that might be worth looking at.

>>32553282
i see the delica recommended a lot, what makes it so popular at this price point? just curious.

>>32553383
Good frn
Light weight
Vg-10 is a great steel for the price
Its a great knife at a reasonable price. It may not be comparable to god tier folders, but for the value you get, its hard to beat

>>32553355
Ill admit i recomended it over the skyline because kershaw has fucked me raw repeatedly so im biased

>>32553383
For a long time it was the cheapest knife you could buy that wasn't chinkshit. It's thin, reasonably light, great shape and grind for EDC slicing, and is made in Japan out of Japanese steel.

There's competition nowadays, most notably the Skyline, but the Delica still has a rabid following and I think it may be the better EDC knife. Its thin blade stock really makes a big difference in terms of cutting performance and the loss in strength is basically irrelevant for the average user. It also comes with an epic stock edge, mine push cuts printer paper right out of the box.

>>32553401
>>32553423

thank you.

the cold meme mini recon also looks nice at about the same price. wish there was a store in town that carried both of them so i could test how they fit my hand.

>>32553065
If I were to have a Grip, it would still be the Ritter for the M390 and get aftermarket G10 scales because fuck the cheap plastic handles.
I want to like the 940 but I hate aluminum, and both the regular and exclusive models are way too overpriced.
Benchmade is just overpriced in general. And I agree, fuck the 154CM on the standard Grip.
>>32553113
I post from my phone all the time because it's more convenient than carrying my laptop everywhere. I'm doing it right now. Lots of practice, and copious amounts of backspacing.

>>32553252
Agree on Spydie's FRN. I have a Stretch 1 green ZDP and the FRN ain't bad at all, granted G10 would be better but still. I'm also spoiled too as I have a ZT0450 and titaniums is just fucking awesome. CF isn't my favorite but it beats stock Griptilian scales any day. Spyderco's G10 is just the best as well.

>>32553585
940-2 isnt alluminum, its g10
Benchmade is overpriced, but spyderco isnt what i want generally, and ZT is too bulky, so they have no real competition for me. The butterfly tax is an unfortunate reality of having good knives with decent design that dont weigh a ton.

>>32553659
I was a BM fan for a long time and own 4 of their knives, one of which was my EDC until a few weeks ago. I really like the AXIS lock but QC has been going down the tubes, they've been discontinuing good models and introducing shitty/boring ones, and now they've just raised MAP by around 10% on pretty much everything. I'm over it.

I've been moving toward smaller brands like Lionsteel and just got my first real Spyderco, and see more Spydies in my future.

>>32549832
Was going to buy one today but they are $280 Canadian

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Opinions on zero tolerance knives. Saw one at a gun show a while back but I was super poorfag. I have some money now and was looking into getting pic related.

>>32553842
Recurves piss me off. Even the ones without that quality are too chunky for my tastes. materials are usually fine, although the qc is meh, but thats expected from kershaw

>>32553842
Good knives but the designs are almost never to my tastes. They're either way too busy or they're bricks.

>>32553255
Leek or Skyline, depending on what you do with a knife the most.

>>32550417
Yeah I got one of those too. And no, they're not all supposed to go in the boot; it depends on usage.

>>32552913

Big collector and user.

Also amateur designer

>>32553894
>>32553878
Okay so other than personal preference with how it feels/looks it's a good knife?

>>32552961

I like 3V, s30v / s35vn, vg10 and INFI.

Steels arent as important as geometry and method of use.

Bowie knives arent optimal camp knives. Any bowie of a respectable brand will be a great camp knife. I recommend going very small or very big. 7 inch knives arent very useful for anything. Also you dont use the clip point design outdoors too much at all. If you want to kill some animals I recommend you carry a useful knife and a big dagger or pig sticker. Specialize whenever you can.

Kukris are functional but also a cultural thing. It is a meme that they're superior to other heavy cutting tools like axes or big knives. It's a personal preference carried over from cultural marketing (asians use them). I personally hate the way they're balanced.

Neck knives and boot knives can be used innawoods. Again, if they're good quality they're probably sharp regardless of the geometry or intended purpose. I however think people that wear knives around their necks are retarded though. It's a very dumb thing to do when outdoors.

Almost all good folders are good outdoors. We nowadays live in a time where even the cheapest products are very good quality in comparison with old tools.

>>32553383

Great shape, great size and great weight.

It also has a great price in the US.

And comes in many colors which is always nice.

It's one of the most popular knives in expeditons and mountaineering for those that dont like chinkshit knives

>>32552342

Yes but them being bad is also a meme.

They're not better at "penetration" but they are not useless as some people claim.

Bear in mind 80% or more of the whole internet knife community never uses their knives

>>32554173
I don't own one, so you can take this with a grain of salt, but everything I've ever heard says the quality is excellent. They use good materials, their machining is top-tier, their flippers flip well, etc. The only real complaints I've ever heard were full on knife autism shit from Bladeforums fucks that are obsessed with lockup percentages etc.

>>32543549
It's the Maxamet one, I'm not sure if it's a sprint run.

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>>32550807
>>32550971
>>32551050
>>32551148

To understand what makes Maxamet interesting, you need to understand a little bit about where it comes from in terms of steel development.

Basically, there are two different steel development trajectories that aimed to increase wear resistance in steels, and thereby edge retention in slicing soft abrasive materials (e.g. cardboard, rope, carpet).

One trajectory is to take a basic stainless steel and add vanadium and chromium to it. This gets you s30v, s60v, s90v and finally s110v. These steels sacrifice apex stability (the ability to resist microscopic chipping or rolling at the apex) and toughness in order to maximize wear resistance and corrosion resistance.

On the other hand, a similar desire to increase wear resistance was applied to tool steels, but in this case apex stability and toughness couldn't be sacrificed, and corrosion resistance was less important BUT the ability to not be de-tempered by heat was a requirement. The idea with High Speed Steels was to increase wear resistance as much as necessary and add hot hardness while minimizing the trade-offs in terms of apex stability and toughness. Here you get M2, Cruwear, M4 and so on.

It is this development trajectory that leads to Maxamet, which is designed to try and achieve s110v levels of wear resistance while retaining hot hardness and minimizing the loss in apex stability and toughness.

So basically, that means that Maxamet should have wear resistance similar to s110v (or even 10V depending on the HT), but have much better apex stability and somewhat better toughness than s110v.

As it happens, Maxamet is obviously more corrosion resistant than M4, though it isn't stainless, but that is also not obvious from looking at the chart of what is in it because you cannot tell how much of the chromium is pulled into the steel matrix as chromium carbides (where it cannot contribute to corrosion resistance) just look at ZDP's chromium content.

>>32550807
>>32550971
>>32551609
>>32551050
>>32551148

In practical terms this means that Maxamet will take and hold a thinner, more polished apex than s110v (or the other ~10% vanadium steels).


It means that Maxamet will be tougher at the same hardness, or similarly tough as them at a much higher hardness (Spyderco is HTing their Maxamet at ~67-68 HRC).

Also, Maxamet's lesser reliance on vanadium means it is MUCH easier to sharpen than 10% vanadium steels (s110v, 10V, 121REX), though still a pain by comparison to M4.

In practice, similar wear resitance combined with higher apex stability should mean that Maxamet should produce similar edge retention results in slicing cardboard, rope or carpet as s110v, but have better edge retention at push cutting type work where apex stability comes into play.

>>32554503
>>32554545
Damn, and sharpening anon comes in with the knowledge drop.

Very nicely done. I have a bit of metallurgical background (just enough to be dangerous, as the old saying goes) but I still had a hell of a time really wrapping my head around the stuff I'd read about Maxamet. You should really publish this stuff elsewhere if you don't already, the rest of the knife world seems to be split between super basic "it holds an edge and sharpens easily" and crazy technical stuff you need a PhD. to understand.

From what I've read it sounds like Maxamet wasn't even intended to be used for anything comparable to a knife, but rather for stuff like high-pressure/heat rollers and things like that. I could be wrong on that point though, as like I say the documentation on it is pretty clusterfucky.

What do you think about it for use in the applications Spyderco is actually pitching it for? The lack of corrosion resistance compared to other high-end steels seems like a major stumbling block for use in the "hard use" applications it'd otherwise be perfect for.

>>32552885
How would you compare it to a S&W knife? I'm just getting into knife collecting and I know they make decent revolvers

>>32554710

Most of the modern high carbide volume steels weren't designed for knife use, they have mostly been designed for industrial cutting applications.

The High Speed Steels prioritized hot hardness (for high speed industrial cutting applications) and minimizing the trade-offs to apex stability and toughness while increasing wear resistance while the ~10% vanadium steels are cold work steels.

Personally, unless I was going to be working in a highly corrosive environment or was going to be doing close to 100% slicing clean soft abrasive materials with little to no push-cutting work or work against a cutting board, I would go for Maxamet over s110v, and s110v over 10V and 121REX.

As far as toughness goes, Maxamet is not going to be any worse than several commonly used steels today (such as m390, s110v, s90v, etc) and is suitable for use in similar applications.

If that isn't enough toughness for you, then Maxamet is probably the wrong steel choice for the application anyway since you can get Cruwear instead, which has less wear resistance but WAY more toughness.

>>32554749
Ah OK, I'd mostly read about Maxamet being used for non-cutting tooling like tubing rollers. Now that I've looked at Carpenter's site again I see that they're also pitching it for endmills and the like, which is much more relevant for knives.

You're making me more and more convinced that I should pick up one of the Maxamet knives, for review if nothing else, if they're still available when I get paid next week. These threads are dangerous haha.

That said, I was thinking more about its suitability as a hard use EDC, which would be the obvious application for the patterns Spyderco has made.

I'm imagining using it in a situation like my old fab shop job, where the knife was in pocket most of the time but did a lot of cardboard cutting, as well as slicing plastic wrap and straps off of metal stock and stuff like that. That CAN be a pretty corrosive environment, both because of machine coolant in the air and because of frequently getting crud on the knife and then rinsing it off. I found that a BM Triage in N680 was excellent in that role, with good edge retention and excellent corrosion resistance, and I wonder if Maxamet would be better or worse in that environment.

>>32554237
Thanks man. Really appreciate it.

>>32554807

Theoretically, I don't think you'd have too much of an issue with corrosion on Maxamet in that role. I've found it to be WAY more corrosion resistant than stuff like M4.

Compared to N680 I would expect less apex stability (but still probably more than enough for your use case), less corrosion resitance (but should be enough as long as you wipe dry after exposure to liquids), and astronomically more wear resistance.

>>32534052
Beautiful. Which model is this?

>>32554190
I'm a steel snob so I'm wondering why VG-10 would be good outdoors as opposed to something like M390, M4, CRUWEAR, etc. I just like to have the very best if I can.

What would you recommend for a dagger/pig sticker? Double edge or no? And what would be good as a large knife?

>>32554718
Different worlds
Materials, qc, design, durability, theres a huge difference
S&w knives are terrible but the price difference is huge

Were talking $10-20 vs my edc being 180

>>32550221
do whatever you want anon

>>32555563
The strength of m390 is better imo
Vg-10 is good, and will be easier to sharpen though
For a pig sticker id honestly reccomend spring steel as itll take the impact well
Large knife depends on how youll use it

>>32555784
But if you convert Benchmade dollars to USD they're about the same

Someone make a new thread, I don't have time